I found and restored the successor to the Scammell Pioneer - The Scammell Explorer. It had been used in a quarry in very bad shape virtually no cab left on it! The back was full off quarry dust and trees were growing in it! I got it home and stripped her all down and found a FULL RECOVERY KIT. Snatch blocks, pins, hold fast plates etc which I also restored. I had a Gardner 180 in mine and used to take her to vintage vehicle rallies. Sadly had to sell her when I fell on hard times :((( She is still working as far as I know! Took a lot of driving with its AIR power steering. I pulled 120 tons with her one time recovering a large lowloader loaded with huge boulders!
Yep 40 years ago bloody Thatcher ruined it all. Stop whining, even back on the old days your equipment was mediocre -or best equal - compared to other countries.
@@steffenrosmus9177 ⁉️ Damn, lash out like an angry a$$hole much!? He was talking about UK technology EIGHTY years ago, when they WERE among the top 3-4 countries in the world as far as technology and quality are concerned. They invented the first modern jet engine, without which the Russian Mig 15 wouldn't have been possible for several more years, because Soviet jet engine technology of the 50s was based on reverse engineering a BRITISH DESIGN! 🚫 No, Margaret Thatcher didn't single handedly f**k up British manufacturing either. The destruction of the American and British manufacturing industries was the fault of corrupt neo-liberals and neo-cons like the Bushes, Clintons, McCain, Biden, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, etc. In America, it was Bill Clinton who signed the corrupt, one-sided trade deals that removed all the tarrifs, barriers and regulations designed to PROTECT our industry from being f**king sold out to our totalitarian communist enemies! So Clinton opened the floodgates that made Communist China the evil, oppressive, environment and civil liberties destroying monster it is now!
@@HighlanderNorth1 oh yes, she did and even 80 years ago British technology was app middle range in comparison to others. Why did the British wanted the Made in Germany label on German goods after WWI? To brand them as mediocre, boy thatwent wrong🤣🤣🤣. In the same way the globalisation the British forced over 300 xears is now turning against them. History is repeating. The US forced Japam to open it's econonmy with some war vessels at Edo bay in 1855 and in 1905 the Japanese wiped the Russians off the surface at Tsushima. They learned fast and so did your colonies. You could only sell your products to the world, because of your colonies which bought them. Did not think an Scot is defending British. Technology because app 45 % of so called British inventors were Scots. And without Scotland today the UK would have the same amount of manufacturing industries like so modern countries like Ghana, Zimbabwe and Pakistan only to name some. Today you focus on luxury brands (which mostly are owned by German or Indian companies), or such innovative products like shoe sand and the financial sector. BTW most banks left with their European branches after Brexit. Some of those recovery vehicles were captured at Dunkirk and brought to NORMAG ,(an German manufacturer of those equipment) for evaluation. And after severe testing they found it not suitable and they were scrapped. Seems I hit an still fresh wound.Thanks for joining the experiment.
@@steffenrosmus9177 🚫 Wrong, I'm not even from the UK, and I've literally never been there, so no, there's no "open wounds" here. Besides, I'm not the one who lashed out, that was you. I merely responded to your post disparaging British technology. But you now seem to be throwing colonization into the mix, so...... Here goes: I hate the oppressive, old-school British "colonization" of countries worldwide, and the slave trade in America through 1865. The British opium wars in China were just pure evil. But you seem to be under the misguided notion that oppressive colonization is purely a British, or European, or Caucasian concept, which couldn't be more historically inaccurate. What the Japanese did to the Chinese from the 1930s through the end of WW2 was so bad it made the Nazis blush! The Japanese were just as racist as the Germans, and they had ZERO respect for POW's, who they turned into slaves. But unlike the Japanese, we in the west are CONSTANTLY admitting to OUR historical inhumanity, whereas Japan has swept their's under the rug, and now they completely omit and deny their crimes against humanity! Next, the pre-Columbian civilizations in North and South America we're forcibly "colonizing" their neighbors and stealing each other's lands for thousands of years. The Asians were doing the same, and the black-on-black violence and oppression in Africa over just the past few decades alone has been unthinkable. So, maybe it's time for society to drop the hate and the hypocrisy, and the racism, and admit that WE ALL have done bad things in the past!
@@HighlanderNorth1 well all our ancestors have done bad things but you cannot blame those born after that period. And my comments only stated facts no hate intended.
I enlisted in the REME on 19 Dec 1961 (retired 16 Sep 1991) These vehicles were in service until the '70s. Even as a mechanic, we were trained in heavy recovery and used the Scammel, in Germany, often.
The one thing missing in the scene where the tank is recovered is the inevitable payment of the ‘yellow handbag’ by the tank crew for the indignity of having to be recovered by REME :)
I remember these in Pickfords livery and I seem to remember a Syd Bishop claret set that were used for demolition work. They absolutely punched well above their class and back in the early seventies when us lads in the playground were enthusing about what cars we wanted, me mates wanted Jags or Bentley's but I wanted one of these lol
Knew a man here in northern Ireland who restored one 11-5litre rolls Royce petrol 1mile to the gallon don't think it's out much ,, he had a few other military vehicles ,it came from the Reme workshop at kinniger barracks holywood co down ,, awesome machine ,,best of British engineering,,
Pickford’s, one of the biggest recovery firms, used scammel recovery vehicles in the U.K. for buses, lorries. Then in the 70s I remember in the British Army using them for the tank transporters - namely the Chieftain tank (MBT) and Scorpion. Then as a child in the 60s I had them as Dinky toys
Im so glad to see this. I worked with an old chap Willie Logan who spent the war years recovering crashed aircraft all over Scotland with one of these. His stories about what he found astounded me. Over the years I've Google this but never found it. Although I'm sure he called the vehicle his team operated a Queen Mary. Is it possible there is a similar vehicle called this? Thank You
Jim Scott; the Queen Mary is the trailer, built by Tasker, a huge thing to carry aircraft which are long but light. Usually pulled by a Crossley or a Bedford.
One thing I did notice those guys were not wearing any gloves . A cable strand will cut you badly ! I saw a 100 ton Scammel recovery unit once on display such a big machine in those days .
actually that is the right way round .. better to mound the dirt in the middle of the tire than on the edges ... you dont get stuck as easy .. americans seem to forget that part like the forget labour has a U in it ... and honour is more than just wearing a uniform
I agree. Swap the wheels to the other side. The V pattern is to clear mud to the side otherwise the treads will completely block. My father retreaded tractor tyres and he told me the theory. Driving a tractor confirmed it.
My Dad ran a REME TA unit in the 1960 there were Twc Scammell and if i was good i was often taken for a ride in one Road Testing of course the driver was called Harry lovey guy who saw service in WW2
Aren't they tires on back to front. I thought the idea was that the shapes on the treads of the tires acted to push soft material to the outside of the wheel tracks, rather than scoop the soft material under the tires. Could be wrong bout that.
Good to know the Scammell is coming to get me "iyt" of trouble... Sounds like Frank N. Furter had a daytime job narrating training films for H.M. Forces before 'events' necessitated his return to Transsexual Transylvania...
When I was a telephone engineer in the 70s we did a lot of mole ploughing ,using a tractor with a winch. We used a fuse cable,slightly lower load rating than the winch cable, at the plough end, wit ha length of rope looped from the plough to the winch cable. If the rig was overloaded the fuse would break and be caught by the rope.
@@millomweb That is exactly what a fuse is in an electrical circuit,a weak link so it will blow there if overloaded. It is the same principle in mechanical terms,so we called them a fuse. Obviously it is not a fuse in the other sense,i.e.fused together.
@@adeladd7638 Fuses don't 'blow', they fuse. That's why they're called fuses. It's an odd word, things can fuse apart and fuse together. In the medical world, what you have would be called a rupture, when the link fails !
My grandfather was conscripted and transferred to REME when it was set up, he was attached to a guards tank training unit. IS this the kit he would have used ?
hard to believe dont know this is the right way to mount herring bone wheel tread patterns tires ... it keeps you from diggin a trench on soft ground and bottoming out because it piles the dirt back under the wheel ... the american way well they have spent more time doing a 3 way pull to unstick the redovery vehiicle and the tank it has been tying to unstick because they mount the tread backwards and ignore the basic physics of the tread ...
@@simonmarsden66 only when tied in bundles. On the old Mk 4 tanks you can see an ‘unditching bar’ in some old clips. Soviet vehicles still carry them. You fix the bar to the tracks and it gives additional traction in very boggy ground.
My Uncle had 2 of these monsters parked out back of his filling station in Ayrshire in the late 70's , they were huge as a kid I stood as tall as one of the tyres..
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I found and restored the successor to the Scammell Pioneer - The Scammell Explorer. It had been used in a quarry in very bad shape virtually no cab left on it! The back was full off quarry dust and trees were growing in it! I got it home and stripped her all down and found a FULL RECOVERY KIT. Snatch blocks, pins, hold fast plates etc which I also restored. I had a Gardner 180 in mine and used to take her to vintage vehicle rallies. Sadly had to sell her when I fell on hard times :((( She is still working as far as I know! Took a lot of driving with its AIR power steering. I pulled 120 tons with her one time recovering a large lowloader loaded with huge boulders!
Thanks for posting this, hard to believe this was 80 years ago! When we were the factory of the world 💪
Yep 40 years ago bloody Thatcher ruined it all. Stop whining, even back on the old days your equipment was mediocre -or best equal - compared to other countries.
@@steffenrosmus9177
⁉️ Damn, lash out like an angry a$$hole much!? He was talking about UK technology EIGHTY years ago, when they WERE among the top 3-4 countries in the world as far as technology and quality are concerned. They invented the first modern jet engine, without which the Russian Mig 15 wouldn't have been possible for several more years, because Soviet jet engine technology of the 50s was based on reverse engineering a BRITISH DESIGN!
🚫 No, Margaret Thatcher didn't single handedly f**k up British manufacturing either. The destruction of the American and British manufacturing industries was the fault of corrupt neo-liberals and neo-cons like the Bushes, Clintons, McCain, Biden, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, etc.
In America, it was Bill Clinton who signed the corrupt, one-sided trade deals that removed all the tarrifs, barriers and regulations designed to PROTECT our industry from being f**king sold out to our totalitarian communist enemies! So Clinton opened the floodgates that made Communist China the evil, oppressive, environment and civil liberties destroying monster it is now!
@@HighlanderNorth1 oh yes, she did and even 80 years ago British technology was app middle range in comparison to others. Why did the British wanted the Made in Germany label on German goods after WWI? To brand them as mediocre, boy thatwent wrong🤣🤣🤣. In the same way the globalisation the British forced over 300 xears is now turning against them. History is repeating. The US forced Japam to open it's econonmy with some war vessels at Edo bay in 1855 and in 1905 the Japanese wiped the Russians off the surface at Tsushima. They learned fast and so did your colonies. You could only sell your products to the world, because of your colonies which bought them. Did not think an Scot is defending British. Technology because app 45 % of so called British inventors were Scots. And without Scotland today the UK would have the same amount of manufacturing industries like so modern countries like Ghana, Zimbabwe and Pakistan only to name some. Today you focus on luxury brands (which mostly are owned by German or Indian companies), or such innovative products like shoe sand and the financial sector. BTW most banks left with their European branches after Brexit. Some of those recovery vehicles were captured at Dunkirk and brought to NORMAG ,(an German manufacturer of those equipment) for evaluation. And after severe testing they found it not suitable and they were scrapped. Seems I hit an still fresh wound.Thanks for joining the experiment.
@@steffenrosmus9177
🚫 Wrong, I'm not even from the UK, and I've literally never been there, so no, there's no "open wounds" here. Besides, I'm not the one who lashed out, that was you. I merely responded to your post disparaging British technology. But you now seem to be throwing colonization into the mix, so...... Here goes:
I hate the oppressive, old-school British "colonization" of countries worldwide, and the slave trade in America through 1865. The British opium wars in China were just pure evil. But you seem to be under the misguided notion that oppressive colonization is purely a British, or European, or Caucasian concept, which couldn't be more historically inaccurate. What the Japanese did to the Chinese from the 1930s through the end of WW2 was so bad it made the Nazis blush! The Japanese were just as racist as the Germans, and they had ZERO respect for POW's, who they turned into slaves. But unlike the Japanese, we in the west are CONSTANTLY admitting to OUR historical inhumanity, whereas Japan has swept their's under the rug, and now they completely omit and deny their crimes against humanity!
Next, the pre-Columbian civilizations in North and South America we're forcibly "colonizing" their neighbors and stealing each other's lands for thousands of years. The Asians were doing the same, and the black-on-black violence and oppression in Africa over just the past few decades alone has been unthinkable.
So, maybe it's time for society to drop the hate and the hypocrisy, and the racism, and admit that WE ALL have done bad things in the past!
@@HighlanderNorth1 well all our ancestors have done bad things but you cannot blame those born after that period. And my comments only stated facts no hate intended.
I enlisted in the REME on 19 Dec 1961 (retired 16 Sep 1991)
These vehicles were in service until the '70s. Even as a mechanic, we were trained in heavy recovery and used the Scammel, in Germany, often.
I love these early military document films. I was expecting Sid James, Kenneth Williams or Terry-Thomas !
My grandad drove these during ww2 and my dad later drove one working for the fair as a generator lorry..... Men were men in those days
actually BOYS were men in those days ... now an 18 year old has more incommon with a 12 year old than an adult
I ran away with the fair at 15, you wouldn't believe the pampering our lorries both heavy Scammells received, they were treated better than the men.
Great to see my Dad was driving one of these at Monte Casino.Helped the Yanks good tale too long to relate. Thank you. 🇬🇧
The one thing missing in the scene where the tank is recovered is the inevitable payment of the ‘yellow handbag’ by the tank crew for the indignity of having to be recovered by REME :)
Our ASM would have taken parts of our anatomy, if he'd caught us handling wire rope without gloves.
It can be done but there's a bit of an art to it if you don't want to spill any blood !
I noticed that too I’m sure they had gloves available then ?
I remember these in Pickfords livery and I seem to remember a Syd Bishop claret set that were used for demolition work. They absolutely punched well above their class and back in the early seventies when us lads in the playground were enthusing about what cars we wanted, me mates wanted Jags or Bentley's but I wanted one of these lol
Syd bishop- watch it come down
Knew a man here in northern Ireland who restored one 11-5litre rolls Royce petrol 1mile to the gallon don't think it's out much ,, he had a few other military vehicles ,it came from the Reme workshop at kinniger barracks holywood co down ,, awesome machine ,,best of British engineering,,
Pickford’s, one of the biggest recovery firms, used scammel recovery vehicles in the U.K. for buses, lorries. Then in the 70s I remember in the British Army using them for the tank transporters - namely the Chieftain tank (MBT) and Scorpion. Then as a child in the 60s I had them as Dinky toys
Scammells were amazing vehicles.
But! at 1:58, NEVER EVER step over a winch-cable!
A great way to commit suicide.
If l remember rightly they were built in the watford area my brother was a tank recovery driver
What amazing engineering for 80 years ago!
Thanks for putting this on the site
Every time I hear this sort of "Empire Voiceover" I always imagine it's Eric Idle doing on of his funny "serious" public service skits 😆
Im so glad to see this. I worked with an old chap Willie Logan who spent the war years recovering crashed aircraft all over Scotland with one of these. His stories about what he found astounded me.
Over the years I've Google this but never found it.
Although I'm sure he called the vehicle his team operated a Queen Mary. Is it possible there is a similar vehicle called this?
Thank You
Jim Scott; the Queen Mary is the trailer, built by Tasker, a huge thing to carry aircraft which are long but light. Usually pulled by a Crossley or a Bedford.
My Dad worked with these!
There is another film like this, where they recover a Churchill tank sideways. Excellent
One thing I did notice those guys were not wearing any gloves . A cable strand will cut you badly ! I saw a 100 ton Scammel recovery unit once on display such a big machine in those days .
Have admired many a Scamell lorry at fairgrounds .
Certainly the name hits the spot.
The tires/tyres are mounted for pulling with the front of the tractor, not the rear like a farm tractor. Seems to not be correct.
Would see the odd Scammell towing buses and lorries in the 60-70's.
I'm fairly sure some of these were still in service when I joined up in '68
You'd think they'd have the tyres on the right way round !
actually that is the right way round .. better to mound the dirt in the middle of the tire than on the edges ... you dont get stuck as easy .. americans seem to forget that part like the forget labour has a U in it ... and honour is more than just wearing a uniform
@@0623kaboom I completely disagree with you. Ask any tractor manufacturer !
I agree. Swap the wheels to the other side. The V pattern is to clear mud to the side otherwise the treads will completely block. My father retreaded tractor tyres and he told me the theory. Driving a tractor confirmed it.
@@jamiemctainsh3267 My dad would point out car tyres on the wrong way round on old cars in museums :) Same thing !
They are the other way around on my tractors here at the farm they even have a arrow on the side wall showing forward rotation.
My Dad ran a REME TA unit in the 1960 there were Twc Scammell and if i was good i was often taken for a ride in one Road Testing of course the driver was called Harry lovey guy who saw service in WW2
Did anyone else notice all 4 rear wheels had the directional tyres mounted backwards ?
Yes their have been quite a bite of comments about it .
Interesting , Thank You. I wonder how many overload cables were disconnected?
Aren't they tires on back to front. I thought the idea was that the shapes on the treads of the tires acted to push soft material to the outside of the wheel tracks, rather than scoop the soft material under the tires. Could be wrong bout that.
They look wrong to me.
Good to know the Scammell is coming to get me "iyt" of trouble... Sounds like Frank N. Furter had a daytime job narrating training films for H.M. Forces before 'events' necessitated his return to Transsexual Transylvania...
Er. Scemmel. Aye thenk you’ll find
Superb. 💙 T.E.N.
interesting the 1945 use of the word "casualty" in describing a boged tank?, as this is not a first aid refference to the victim.
I want one!!!
Someone should educate the NCO not to stand in the firing line of the winch cable, if the cable were to break he could end up being cut into two!
Yes, released wire snakes are not the friendliest of creatures !
When I was a telephone engineer in the 70s we did a lot of mole ploughing ,using a tractor with a winch. We used a fuse cable,slightly lower load rating than the winch cable, at the plough end, wit ha length of rope looped from the plough to the winch cable. If the rig was overloaded the fuse would break and be caught by the rope.
@@adeladd7638 It's not a 'fuse' as it doesn't fuse. I've heard such things being called a 'weak link'. Used in launching gliders.
@@millomweb That is exactly what a fuse is in an electrical circuit,a weak link so it will blow there if overloaded. It is the same principle in mechanical terms,so we called them a fuse. Obviously it is not a fuse in the other sense,i.e.fused together.
@@adeladd7638 Fuses don't 'blow', they fuse. That's why they're called fuses.
It's an odd word, things can fuse apart and fuse together.
In the medical world, what you have would be called a rupture, when the link fails !
My grandfather was conscripted and transferred to REME when it was set up, he was attached to a guards tank training unit. IS this the kit he would have used ?
Only if he was a Recovery Mechanic. The REME also vehicle mechanics posted to infantry units.
Same winch on an AEC militant mk 3 it looks like
hard to believe dont know this is the right way to mount herring bone wheel tread patterns tires ... it keeps you from diggin a trench on soft ground and bottoming out because it piles the dirt back under the wheel ... the american way well they have spent more time doing a 3 way pull to unstick the redovery vehiicle and the tank it has been tying to unstick because they mount the tread backwards and ignore the basic physics of the tread ...
There is no spacing at the beginning of the ellipsis and the word before it... see?
omg its butch the breakdown van
I guess if it was me, I'd look to drive the tank out of the 'hole' !
But then we wouldn't know how the Scammel worked.
Conspicuously missing yellow handbags…
no gucci lugage either ... lol
Ah the old days, slim recy mechs lol
That tank could have been driven out :)
their is one thing missing British Tanks - What Were The Wooden Logs On The Tanks For - th-cam.com/video/CwTpm9M5xqs/w-d-xo.html
@@45NUTS_PART_DEUX they are fascines for ditches
@@simonmarsden66 only when tied in bundles. On the old Mk 4 tanks you can see an ‘unditching bar’ in some old clips. Soviet vehicles still carry them. You fix the bar to the tracks and it gives additional traction in very boggy ground.
Lorry lol. Ghey.
My Uncle had 2 of these monsters parked out back of his filling station in Ayrshire in the late 70's , they were huge as a kid I stood as tall as one of the tyres..