Hi everyone. Yes, I saw the new Dedede design in Forgotten Land. It's a cool design! But no, I'm not going to make a new video just to say that. Thank you for enjoying this video still after all these years.
Yeah the design basically has everything you wanted. Eyes are close together, egg shaped, rounded feet, perfectly sized hammer, they even made to poof ball on his hat cooler. It’s basically just Kirby 64 dedede redrawn
Diandra Aliffa funny. I actually drew him a couple times and yea, he is probably one of the hardest Kirby characters to draw. My last drawing of him I mixed some elements from maybe Dedede designs. I hoped it looks good.
MetaKnuxXbeats It's probably because he's more detailed than most Kirby characters. As for me, i draw him by making bis body as big and round as possible, stick the limbs, and draw the robe by trying to imagine how it would look like by the shape of his body
I look at the Dream Land 3 design, and the literal first thing I thought was _holy fuck big._ We're talking levels of absolute unitdom never before seen here! It enough to make a man cry out, AW LAWD HE COMIN.
One thing I adore about D3/64 Dedede is the shape language. While yes, he’s big and round and egg shaped, he has sharpness in his beak, his emblem, his flared out puff on his hat, and in many more places. Shape language 101 is that round shapes are soft, approachable, and is the main shape for most of the Kirby franchise. Triangles and sharper shapes are dynamic, and are more dangerous and unpredictable. And I think this mix fits Dedede well. Sure, he is silly, and is a part of the cutesy inhabitants of Dreamland, but he also a king and a formidable opponent. He can be a threat if he wants. He was the first villain of the series after all. And while he is reformed and an ally now, he still has his rivalry with Kirby. He still has a little resentment of the pink puff, even though he doesn’t actively attack Kirby anymore. Those sharp edges help show that. I think this is a problem with the newer Dededes. They are sanding off too many edges in his character. He’s too smooth, and thus has no intimidating factor anymore. This Dedede is just a joke, comic relief, not a king, , and definitely someone who could rival Kirby. This ended up being a longer comment than anticipated, but character design is my passion, and I think Dedede really deserves his perfect design.
I'd say my favorite Dedede is Smash Dedede (especially Smash 4 Dedede), mainly because how large his eyes AND his body is. So it's like his third design but bigger and rounder! The hammer is also just right, because with most Dedede's it seemed like the handle was too short, but Smash's version has a longe handle, which makes it look like a majestic giant scepter weapon. Also i disagree with how you said Smash Dedede's robe just looks like a robe, because the white area looks fluffy enough to me to look like royal garment, which is further seen with the Kimono-like clothing he's wearing underneath (a design choice im dissapointed they didn't bring over to the main Kirby games). Still, this was a great video! I too, love how circular DL3 and Kirby 64 Dedede is, and RtD/TD/PRBB Dedede looks awful. Ps: What's your opinion on Anime Dedede? I personally kinda see his design in Star Allies a little bit, but that's just me
I think the Brawl design made his outfit be some sort of Hakama, a male version of the Kimono. Kimono's are wrappeded around in that way and some even have it that they were several underneath, atleast with how it looks like. Which would also make sense with his belt as it gives DDD a more japanese king design. I'd say that style of clothes would fit him best
The first game I fought King Dedede in was Dreamland 2 and I thought he was a frog because of the big mouth, fat, and the fact he jumped around a lot. The gameboy screen was tinted green so that didn't help.
I feel there are some contradictions within dededes overall design that only lets compromises appear. Dedede naturally is supposed to have a very large and expressive face, but dedede is also supposed to be very round and bottom heavy. Dreamland 3 dedede is very round, but has less room for expression, and Return to Dreamland Dedede has a lot of room for expression, but his head is as large as his body. I feel like the best compromise between the two is Smash Ultimate Dedede, and would be best if robe was more as a puffy coat, which would round out his shape a little bit. I still love him very much though, easily my favorite kirby character, or video game character in general. Edit: I just realized that dedede's hammer proportions have also changed, and has probably become it's smallest in kirby star allies. Personally i like it when dedede's hammer is very large, maybe about 2/3-3/4 the size of his body
I'm glad it's not just me who always thought that Return to Dreamland - Star Allies era King Dedede always looked a little... off. The 3D models never looked quite right, and as you said, I think there's just too much head, weird long long arms... he just doesn't have that big, lumbering brute presence I feel is key to his character. He hardly even looks like a penguin, that beak looks like funny fish lips. THANK LORD we got a design overhaul in Forgotten Land, and a really cool one at that, which echos his 64 look, but with a badass feathered collar for added regality. Seriously, I hope this look sticks.
you know what max at first i thought this was gonna be you back on your bullshit but you know what you've really put a voice to an intense dislike for 3DS-era dedede that i've apparently been harboring all this time.
i think my favorite design was in kirby's return to dreamland. although If We're not limited to the kirby series i think my favorite design for him is in the smash games
Finally, I now know why Kirby's Dreamland 3 is the best DeDeDe design, I couldn't put my finger on it for the longest time until now. Honestly, Kirby's Dreamland 3 is one of my favorite Kirby games in general, no wonder it'd have the best Triple D. Also, while Kirby: Right back at ya! WOULD have one of the worse designs, I'd actually say it's one of the BEST if you consider his personality in the show. Brass, cocky, entitled, and the best character, and it fits him perfectly in the show. I feel they tried to do something like that in Star Allies, but it just doesn't work, especially because sure, it's *kind of* conveyed in the animation, Triple D doesn't actually talk, so it feels weird that he's always conveyed as a lovable goofball but suddenly, the animation changed awkwardly and he doesn't even talk.
Personally, my favorite dededesign has to be his appearance in super star. It’s the first game to give him his tan clothing under his red robe, doesn’t give him eyebrows or teeth, (for the most part) and he just looks goofy. Part of the reason is also because it shows off another area of dededes character, if that makes sense. Along side his main character traits of being a little greedy and lazy and loving and being loyal to his subjects and friends, he’s a doofus. See any return to dreamland cutscene or his super star sprites. They just make you wanna chuckle looking at em. Not to mention that Kirby and dedede are accurately scaled height wise in game.
I’ve always had a particular preference to Smash 4 Dedede. Squeak Squad was my first experience with the guy, so THAT was my only reference to what he “should” look like until I saw Smash 4 and decided that looked the most “Dedede” I’ve ever seen.
I think the best by far is the SSBU design (this design is based on KSS) and the worst is probably the KSA design. I personally love his RTD design, is kind of cute
Ngl I come back to this video every once and a while because I love dedede and the way you talk and explain is so good. 10/10, and I refuse to believe that Nintendo didn't see this video and thats why the made the forgotten land dededesign perfect
I pretty much agree with all your takes here, although I'd probably say Dream Land 3 Dedede is just a bit better than Crystal Shards Dedede. But I really appreciate this video breaking down the specific character design elements that make each rendition of Dedede feel so different.
There's a couple redesigns that I skipped over because they weren't crucial points in the timeline, Smash 4's Dedede is basically just a cleaner version of the Brawl one
The King Dedede design in the anime looks like a combination of the egg shape Dedede and Star Allies ( I've even speculated that the Star allies Dedede takes the smaller head design from the anime.)
I feel like King Dededes artwork from Kirby Super Star Ultra is the best Dedede IMO Star Allies is closer to being good, but he’s not as big and fat as I’d want him to be. And what about SSB4 Dedede? He looks better and way more pronounced than Switch Dedede, where does he rank for you? Appreciate the video anyways
The reason why he gets less well F A T in the later games is because of his past adventures with Kirby made him lose weight and in allies he’s trying to get fat again
I dunno why youtube algorithm sent me here, but I got to say. I can't wait if he comes back and see they based dedede to the 64 version in the forgotten land.
You're like...weirdly liberal with the term "Disgusting" I mean, I agree for the most part, but still. Personally I first saw this guy in Brawl so that's what I have in my brain as the default for what he's supposed to look like. But I get what you mean, I really agree with what you said about his eyes in the newer one. The fact that he has a defined head doesn't bother me too much tbh since...well I've always known him to be pretty pair shaped. This was a good vid though. You should do more of these comparative character design things
At the 6:00 mark I think that Dedede was best just cause he looked big and strong and not big and fat. He looked solid. The current Dedede, his pear shape is a bit too much I think. Would love to see the return to the round solid dedede. His thicker arms are better I think. I want a solid dedede not a jiggly dedede. Swole dedede is a no go.
I disagree with the 64 design being the best because his mouth is so ugly in the renders, the ingame model looks better though. The DL3 design is the best one since they made him look cool. I'm also probably the only person that likes the Triple Deluxe design because it strikes the same cool feeling as the DL3 design (mostly the eyes being under the hat which makes him look more serious)
yo it's treefroggy. this video rules. just want to add that his "chest piece" is a "belly warmer", which is a japanese article of clothing. Dedede sadly succumbed to the same design marketability disease that plagues all pop characters from garfield to pikachu to hamtaro: making them more market-friendly by nerfing and sterilizing their design. and you probably also know by now that the "jedi robe" is a kimono, since he had a belly warmer from day 1 and belly warmer goes over a kimono, it made sense for his design. Though I'm not fond of his (or practically any) of the character designs for brawl, either. lol @ your comment about dedede's belly fat spilling over his belt
I wasn't going to include any design modifications like Masked Dedede or Shadow Dedede because those aren't the actual designs of the character; like I said, they're temporary changes in the game itself
I dislike the switch Dedede and the 3DS Dedede. There was a charm to him in 64 and Kirby Dreamland 3. I also enjoy the Wii (Return to Dreamland) Dedede only cause the animation has so much character in em. It's nice and I grew up with it. But damn, Dreamland 3 was badass
Hi everyone. Yes, I saw the new Dedede design in Forgotten Land. It's a cool design! But no, I'm not going to make a new video just to say that. Thank you for enjoying this video still after all these years.
Well it is a pretty sweet vid!
We have gone back to the egg
Yeah the design basically has everything you wanted. Eyes are close together, egg shaped, rounded feet, perfectly sized hammer, they even made to poof ball on his hat cooler. It’s basically just Kirby 64 dedede redrawn
I suppose that i wasn’t that near and dear in your heart
watching this vid again after seeing dedede's forgotten land redesign, so happy seeing him reverted back to his dreamland 3/crystal shards design
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who came back to this video after seeing Dedede's new design
Appreciate it as much as you can, cause next game next redesign
@@willo1009 hopefully they stick to egg
i love how passionate you sound about dedede's design, it's great
Dedede, the Kirby character with the most redesigns.
MetaKnuxXbeats Hal said he was a very difficult character to draw, apparantly
Diandra Aliffa funny. I actually drew him a couple times and yea, he is probably one of the hardest Kirby characters to draw. My last drawing of him I mixed some elements from maybe Dedede designs. I hoped it looks good.
MetaKnuxXbeats It's probably because he's more detailed than most Kirby characters. As for me, i draw him by making bis body as big and round as possible, stick the limbs, and draw the robe by trying to imagine how it would look like by the shape of his body
Diandra Aliffa neat. That is the similarity way how I drew him
regardless of design, dedede is fantastic and i love him.
I look at the Dream Land 3 design, and the literal first thing I thought was _holy fuck big._
We're talking levels of absolute unitdom never before seen here!
It enough to make a man cry out, AW LAWD HE COMIN.
the star allies design reminds me of a cleaner right back at ya design
Evolution of God
That guy must absolutly love his Forgotten Land's design.
Dreamland 3, 64 Crystal Shards and Forgotten Land are peak Dededesign!!!
One thing I adore about D3/64 Dedede is the shape language. While yes, he’s big and round and egg shaped, he has sharpness in his beak, his emblem, his flared out puff on his hat, and in many more places. Shape language 101 is that round shapes are soft, approachable, and is the main shape for most of the Kirby franchise. Triangles and sharper shapes are dynamic, and are more dangerous and unpredictable.
And I think this mix fits Dedede well. Sure, he is silly, and is a part of the cutesy inhabitants of Dreamland, but he also a king and a formidable opponent. He can be a threat if he wants. He was the first villain of the series after all. And while he is reformed and an ally now, he still has his rivalry with Kirby. He still has a little resentment of the pink puff, even though he doesn’t actively attack Kirby anymore. Those sharp edges help show that.
I think this is a problem with the newer Dededes. They are sanding off too many edges in his character. He’s too smooth, and thus has no intimidating factor anymore. This Dedede is just a joke, comic relief, not a king, , and definitely someone who could rival Kirby.
This ended up being a longer comment than anticipated, but character design is my passion, and I think Dedede really deserves his perfect design.
Triple deluxe dedede looks like a happy meal toy
I don’t know if this video is ironic but I love it anyways
Forgotten Land has achieved peak Dedede.
I like king dedede's N64 design in my opinion it's goofy looking yet adorable at the same time
I'd say my favorite Dedede is Smash Dedede (especially Smash 4 Dedede), mainly because how large his eyes AND his body is. So it's like his third design but bigger and rounder! The hammer is also just right, because with most Dedede's it seemed like the handle was too short, but Smash's version has a longe handle, which makes it look like a majestic giant scepter weapon. Also i disagree with how you said Smash Dedede's robe just looks like a robe, because the white area looks fluffy enough to me to look like royal garment, which is further seen with the Kimono-like clothing he's wearing underneath (a design choice im dissapointed they didn't bring over to the main Kirby games). Still, this was a great video! I too, love how circular DL3 and Kirby 64 Dedede is, and RtD/TD/PRBB Dedede looks awful.
Ps: What's your opinion on Anime Dedede? I personally kinda see his design in Star Allies a little bit, but that's just me
SpaceKirb yes! Especially the last one!
When Dedede has the small hammer it looks like he’s just going to give them a small little bonk. He needs a big hammer to clabbah
“I hope we can go back to the egg.”
*Hal Labs likes this idea*
Weirdly, sonic's current design has a lot of the same problems as Dedede
Dont compare me to that thing
@@YourRulerKingDedede Your majesty
You’re right :0 huh that’s interesting
I think the Brawl design made his outfit be some sort of Hakama, a male version of the Kimono. Kimono's are wrappeded around in that way and some even have it that they were several underneath, atleast with how it looks like. Which would also make sense with his belt as it gives DDD a more japanese king design. I'd say that style of clothes would fit him best
I always knew there was something fucking horrifying that 3DS incarnation
The first game I fought King Dedede in was Dreamland 2 and I thought he was a frog because of the big mouth, fat, and the fact he jumped around a lot. The gameboy screen was tinted green so that didn't help.
You should probably take a look at the Dedede from Kirby and the forgotten land
He has a new look again
I feel there are some contradictions within dededes overall design that only lets compromises appear. Dedede naturally is supposed to have a very large and expressive face, but dedede is also supposed to be very round and bottom heavy. Dreamland 3 dedede is very round, but has less room for expression, and Return to Dreamland Dedede has a lot of room for expression, but his head is as large as his body. I feel like the best compromise between the two is Smash Ultimate Dedede, and would be best if robe was more as a puffy coat, which would round out his shape a little bit. I still love him very much though, easily my favorite kirby character, or video game character in general.
Edit: I just realized that dedede's hammer proportions have also changed, and has probably become it's smallest in kirby star allies. Personally i like it when dedede's hammer is very large, maybe about 2/3-3/4 the size of his body
I'm glad it's not just me who always thought that Return to Dreamland - Star Allies era King Dedede always looked a little... off. The 3D models never looked quite right, and as you said, I think there's just too much head, weird long long arms... he just doesn't have that big, lumbering brute presence I feel is key to his character. He hardly even looks like a penguin, that beak looks like funny fish lips.
THANK LORD we got a design overhaul in Forgotten Land, and a really cool one at that, which echos his 64 look, but with a badass feathered collar for added regality. Seriously, I hope this look sticks.
I love, love, LOVE Dreamland 3 and 64’s design. It’s incredible.
I hate this video because you vocalized things I felt that I'd probably need a therapist's help to reveal
you know what max at first i thought this was gonna be you back on your bullshit but you know what you've really put a voice to an intense dislike for 3DS-era dedede that i've apparently been harboring all this time.
I never realized these designs went through so much evolution, I always assumed Kirby had been safe and same-y like Mario has been since sunshine.
i think my favorite design was in kirby's return to dreamland. although If We're not limited to the kirby series i think my favorite design for him is in the smash games
Dedede: *has a head separate from the rest of his body*
Funbil: "F*cking DISGUSTANG!"
Finally, I now know why Kirby's Dreamland 3 is the best DeDeDe design, I couldn't put my finger on it for the longest time until now.
Honestly, Kirby's Dreamland 3 is one of my favorite Kirby games in general, no wonder it'd have the best Triple D. Also, while Kirby: Right back at ya! WOULD have one of the worse designs, I'd actually say it's one of the BEST if you consider his personality in the show. Brass, cocky, entitled, and the best character, and it fits him perfectly in the show. I feel they tried to do something like that in Star Allies, but it just doesn't work, especially because sure, it's *kind of* conveyed in the animation, Triple D doesn't actually talk, so it feels weird that he's always conveyed as a lovable goofball but suddenly, the animation changed awkwardly and he doesn't even talk.
Personally, my favorite dededesign has to be his appearance in super star.
It’s the first game to give him his tan clothing under his red robe, doesn’t give him eyebrows or teeth, (for the most part) and he just looks goofy.
Part of the reason is also because it shows off another area of dededes character, if that makes sense. Along side his main character traits of being a little greedy and lazy and loving and being loyal to his subjects and friends, he’s a doofus. See any return to dreamland cutscene or his super star sprites. They just make you wanna chuckle looking at em.
Not to mention that Kirby and dedede are accurately scaled height wise in game.
I wonder how he feels about Wild Dedede’s design?
It’s really badass!
I really liked the star allies king dedede!
You are the only that I have seen person on youtube that got mad by how a penguin looks.
Good jawb!
I’ve always had a particular preference to Smash 4 Dedede. Squeak Squad was my first experience with the guy, so THAT was my only reference to what he “should” look like until I saw Smash 4 and decided that looked the most “Dedede” I’ve ever seen.
Would LOVE to hear your take on Forgotten lands King Dedede. Its the best one since DL3 and 64, and I honestly hope it sticks.
I like Dreamland 3 the best just of how massive he is, but Crystal Shards is probably the best cartoony one.
I’m surprised you didn’t talk about the sprite designs.
I think the best by far is the SSBU design (this design is based on KSS) and the worst is probably the KSA design. I personally love his RTD design, is kind of cute
I find his SA design should only ever be used funny ACM animations
Ngl I come back to this video every once and a while because I love dedede and the way you talk and explain is so good. 10/10, and I refuse to believe that Nintendo didn't see this video and thats why the made the forgotten land dededesign perfect
I'm curious on your thoughts on forgotten land dedede as in my opinion the redesign is nicer to look at than triple deluxe/robobot dedede
I pretty much agree with all your takes here, although I'd probably say Dream Land 3 Dedede is just a bit better than Crystal Shards Dedede. But I really appreciate this video breaking down the specific character design elements that make each rendition of Dedede feel so different.
The true High King of Dreamland does deserve better than this.
What about Smash 4 Dedede?
There's a couple redesigns that I skipped over because they weren't crucial points in the timeline, Smash 4's Dedede is basically just a cleaner version of the Brawl one
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The King Dedede design in the anime looks like a combination of the egg shape Dedede and Star Allies ( I've even speculated that the Star allies Dedede takes the smaller head design from the anime.)
Pls do one on meta knight, his design has changed over the years
I feel like King Dededes artwork from Kirby Super Star Ultra is the best Dedede IMO
Star Allies is closer to being good, but he’s not as big and fat as I’d want him to be. And what about SSB4 Dedede? He looks better and way more pronounced than Switch Dedede, where does he rank for you?
Appreciate the video anyways
The reason why he gets less well F A T in the later games is because of his past adventures with Kirby made him lose weight and in allies he’s trying to get fat again
Kermit talks about King Dedede
I dunno why youtube algorithm sent me here, but I got to say. I can't wait if he comes back and see they based dedede to the 64 version in the forgotten land.
You're like...weirdly liberal with the term "Disgusting" I mean, I agree for the most part, but still.
Personally I first saw this guy in Brawl so that's what I have in my brain as the default for what he's supposed to look like. But I get what you mean, I really agree with what you said about his eyes in the newer one. The fact that he has a defined head doesn't bother me too much tbh since...well I've always known him to be pretty pair shaped.
This was a good vid though. You should do more of these comparative character design things
Thoughts on the new Dedede? Seems like he lined up with the best dedede
Came back to this video to say we're still eating good.
On the one where he’s said Dedede’s arms are to wide I said he’s just too buff
Forgotten land:sweating profusely
I like talking to people about games!
You should have at least mentioned buff dedede!
Dedede is amazing (≧▽≦)
egg is back
DeDeDescusting
You really need to make another video with the newer games over the past two years
Egg dedede is back
Smash ultimate DeDeDe is best DeDeDe
King Dedede is my favorite penguin!!! X3
At the 6:00 mark I think that Dedede was best just cause he looked big and strong and not big and fat. He looked solid.
The current Dedede, his pear shape is a bit too much I think. Would love to see the return to the round solid dedede. His thicker arms are better I think. I want a solid dedede not a jiggly dedede.
Swole dedede is a no go.
Do you like the new design for king dedede in kirby and the forgotten land?
i do like the orange beak of the 3ds games ngl
dream land 3 dedede is so fucking cute i love him
Holy shit, I didn't knew DDD had a lot of redesigns
tbh i wish his his brawl design came back as an alt, I think he looks super cute in brawl
LOL i forgot this video months ago.
I disagree with the 64 design being the best because his mouth is so ugly in the renders, the ingame model looks better though. The DL3 design is the best one since they made him look cool. I'm also probably the only person that likes the Triple Deluxe design because it strikes the same cool feeling as the DL3 design (mostly the eyes being under the hat which makes him look more serious)
You skipped NiD-SSU.
Where was smash bros wii u’s design? or was it too similar to brawl?
It's good again now
I don’t care about looks he’s still cute and precious he my buddy
This is great!earned a sub
what about the anime
yo it's treefroggy. this video rules. just want to add that his "chest piece" is a "belly warmer", which is a japanese article of clothing.
Dedede sadly succumbed to the same design marketability disease that plagues all pop characters from garfield to pikachu to hamtaro: making them more market-friendly by nerfing and sterilizing their design.
and you probably also know by now that the "jedi robe" is a kimono, since he had a belly warmer from day 1 and belly warmer goes over a kimono, it made sense for his design. Though I'm not fond of his (or practically any) of the character designs for brawl, either. lol @ your comment about dedede's belly fat spilling over his belt
He's a cartoon character surely you jestin'
Im going t have to disagree with you about which dedede is the best. The official art from 64 is pretty good but his in-game model is even better!
That, and..
Yknow, the entirety of his second phase.
The best one is the Kirby dreamland 3 or kirby 64 one
You forgot the anime
You forgot Kirby Air Ride
(You forgot Kirby Air Ride on GameCube)
There's a lot that I skipped over because they weren't crucial points in the timeline
I wasn't going to include any design modifications like Masked Dedede or Shadow Dedede because those aren't the actual designs of the character; like I said, they're temporary changes in the game itself
HOLY SHIT STAR ALLIES DEDEDE IS *DEDEDESGUSTING*
oh and yes,i AM bringing dedede puns
Smash 4 dedede is the best design for dedede in my opinion
Am I the only one who likes the later designs
Sut up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
😡😡😡😡😡
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There is no way you just said the first game Triple D appeared in is Adventure.
Also, you have no right to judge Switch Dedede.
I dislike the switch Dedede and the 3DS Dedede. There was a charm to him in 64 and Kirby Dreamland 3. I also enjoy the Wii (Return to Dreamland) Dedede only cause the animation has so much character in em. It's nice and I grew up with it. But damn, Dreamland 3 was badass
this is exactly what ive been saying for years!!
64 design sooo fucking goood
My favorite is Brawl and my least favorite is Triple Deluxe/Planet Robobot.
I don’t like how Star Allies’ Dedede is RTDL+TD/PR.
Same here the newer versions are a bit ugly
My fav dedede is super star dedede
You forgot about the gba design
That’s basically the super star design but scaled up to be larger and more proportionate.
I think Anime Dedede is the best Dedede
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Fat king dedede
I always HATED Triple Deluxe Dedede.
A new kirby game yuo khow Drill dedede we gonna make yuo more like yuor shams Bros model