Calling Ultra Necrozma a “pathetic final boss” is just flat out wrong A, it’s not the final boss B, if you’re not expecting it or don’t have an easy counter (Mimikyu or sash, counter/mirror coat), you’re gonna get swept
Wrong title for this. It should be, "Easiest ways to defeat Nintendo final bosses." These are mostly just specific situations and strategies. I went up against Ultra Necrozma not knowing what type he was or what moves he used. You guys just looked him up online so you could get a handicap against him. His speed kept outdoing my own and he just kept using Power Gem over and over. Even though all my pokemon were ten levels higher than him, he kept one-shotting my team. It took giving my Noivern a Focus Sash, using the Z-Move on the first go, having the pure luck of Necrozma missing him on the second try and then finishing Necrozma off with Draco Meteor. I don't ever want to go through that again.
TBH it really isnt hard with no zorua. Salazzle alone (holding sash? I forget if it outspeeds) (or literally anything with toxic) wins if it lands a single toxic (which it does every time) and you can just sac all of your other mons
@@walledbytoxapex You're lucky your salazzle didn't get hit by a Photon Geyser. To tell the truth I'm unsure whether it was a focus sash (which survives one-shot moves) or a Quick Claw.
Shadow Kirby: According to this guy, he is one of the easiest boss fights in Nintendo History Also Shadow Kirby: *Dodges every single arrow by literally ducking* Edit: WHOA MOM I'M FAMOUS
I wouldn't call Ultra Necrozma with that p-word, it's one of the hardest bosses ever seen in a Pokémon game. You just exploited its AI in an extremely niche and specific way, that's it
if you don’t have Zoroark it is a tough challenge. Additionally I wouldn’t count it as the final boss since you still have to face the elite four and the champion afterwards.
@@flipcamgamerI see it as Pokémon games (besides Gen 1) having 2 final bosses The antagonist arc's final boss, and the victory road final boss. The names are self explanatory.
Bro is using Full Restores and has a team specifically built to counter Tracy’s. Like that shit is only easy because you made it that way. The beauty of Pokémon games is you can make them as easy or difficult as you want. I can watch that one Mario clip and see Mario is just ducking and Bowser kills himself. Someone watching the Pokemon clip with no knowledge of how the game works would have no idea how to beat this guy
I feel like it's a little unfair to put Majora here since it's actually a fairly challenging boss without Fierce Deity. And yeah I know the video acknowledges that every boss in the game becomes easier with the mask but still
Agreed, especially considering what a pain getting the Fierce Deity is. Getting all the other masks isn’t required, and many probably wouldn’t do it because it’s time consuming, boring, or confusing.
@@lazyryan3766 I mean, yea, but “once you do this complex thing, the final boss is easy,” can be true of any boss. Any Pokemon champion is super easy if you grind your Pokemon to level 100 and use what they’re weak against, the final boss of Final Fantasy VII can be beaten with one or two Knights of the Round summons, if you can go through the convoluted process of getting it, etc.
I still even to this day find everything about cdi ganons fight hilarious -his iconic ‘you will die’ face -him absolutely barraging you with fireballs that do nothing -the fact that his boss stage is literally a staircase -the stupid book being tossed at him at high speed -the fact that he has a picture with writing next to him like in a bestiary -the absolute zero fanfare afterwards
I feel like putting Ultra Necrozma, Majora's Mask and Bonetail in this video isn't fair. They all can be challenging if you don't have the proper setup.
The first one is hilarious though. Link not giving a crap and just walking up to the final boss and slamming him into a book then going home. Such a link thing to do
fun fact the reason the fierce deity is the most powerful mask in the game is because link is being possessed by a literal god this was told in the manga long before the events of the game Majora was an evil monster a dragon like creature one day a random traveler came and played a song for majora this song forced majora to dance for days and nights without rest eventually tiring majora out enough for the traveler to kill it he then made majora's mask from the creatures body the traveler in question looked like the fierce deity and was said to be a god. Also the fierce deity was said to be a bit more malevolent in the manga as link put it on and was nearly completely overtaken by a powerful force
Here's a dumb fact about the final boss about let's go. Not even a full moveset. Like seriously, all of his mons have only 3 moves, without a _move deleter_ ....HOW? And you know what causes the challenge to be thrown out the window? KOGA'S. Gym. Guide. Forcing you to catch 3/4 of the pokedex is _absurd_ before the 6th gym. Not even fire red and leafgreen's national pokedex required no more than LESS THAN HALF. I literally asked my uncle to help me rebuild a team using his go save to catch new mons and even _then_ The experience boost of traded mons made it a _nightmare_ to control
Tbf unless they have a competitive-tier movesets, which tend to be left til post-game. 3 moves in Pokemon is probably better for the AI than 4. Otherwise you get stuff like Blues Alakazam having both Psychic and Psybeam and just randomly using the weaker psybeam. Whereas Traces mons have good coverage without being competitive and don't have any redundant weaker attacks or random bad moves like tail whip or Ember.
Like Blue's Alakazam would literally be more difficult if it only had 1 move, Psychic on its moveset, all the other moves legitimately just end up making the battle easier.
Yeah the movesets are still way stronger than blue's in gen 1. At least he uses Flamethrower instead of Ember. Once you look at blue's gen 1 moveset your entire view of gen 1 difficulty will change forever.
"Oh boy, I love being an imposing and threatening final opponent. I sure do hope that nobody finds anything they can exploit to make me as easy to deal with as a tutorial enemy." Protag: Crouches "F-ck."
I think the intention of CD-i Ganon's boss fight was for Link to be able to get to his lair early, not be able to actually harm him, and get forced to retreat to find the weapon required to defeat him. The game programmers and the writers apparently weren't on the same page with this, and ended up making it out so you can't even get to him until after you have the Book of Koridai to instantly defeat him. Kinda silly.
Imagine calling a Pokemon game easy, and then still losing two Pokemon, one being Partner Pikachu (who is broken) AND an over leveled Mega Gyarados WHILE using items in battle, in the ONE Pokemon game that has the most simplified mechanics of all Pokemon games.
"Recent Pokémon games aren't known for their difficulty" I know Legends: Arceus was a final boss fight that got a lot of parties wiped, if you were unfortunate enough to not choose Spiritomb/Blissey/Sylveon... And DPP remakes had Cynthia, who is, of course, a demon in emo clothes.
@@HandyDandyHandium I didn't play the newest entry (I don't like the new artistic direction), but I'm interested in understanding what you mean. Would you mind elaborating?
@@sky_pirate the indigo disk is focused on battling and most major trainers have competitive teams, specifically competitive doubles so if you play at the level you’re supposed to (70-90 if i remember correctly) it could be quite difficult but I haven’t played the dlc yet but I’ve seen the teams and gameplay of it AI Sada/Turo use 570 bst with an attack boosted 590 pkmn and due to the nature of the battle you’re likely only going to know one type each and most are quite fast (135 base speed wtf) and if you play at the level cap (66-67) i can see people easily losing against them Terapagos is technically the “final” boss of the indigo disk with a tera raid format and being level 85 with a 700 bst and you’re on your own for a lot of the fight so the boosted hp makes it harder; you can use all 6 pokemon however Terapagos constantly has a shield up which requires tera to break and you need to build up tera over and over due to terapagos using YOUR tera for the shield, terapagos alsp has a stab spread move that does super effective damage to tera’d targets and also has zen headbutt to cover the fighting weakness; it does become easier when kerian joins but that’s to be expected
@@ParaternalSkies64yeah but those moves are usually ember, stomp and fury attack. Blue in gen 1 is absurdly easy and much more deserving of the spot in this video. A lot of his moves don't even work in battle.
Let me heal because this final trainer is so easy, while using my OP super starter, and having that OP start get knocked out. And having my Mega get knocked out too. Immediately followed by using the known broken build and strategy, and had to grind the Pinata Parlor for hours to required badges.
Or Dark Crafter. At the very least, Dark Nebula actually has a few attacks (Ones to cheese out of, but at least he has a few attacks). With Dark Crafter, he just floats around in space, throws junk at you, and then he dies. He has ONE attack and that's it.
The Let's Go Pikachu example seems a little unfair. Had to use three pokemon, a healing item, and the generation's power-up gimmick? By Pokemon standards that's Dark Souls tough.
There's a few different categories of bosses here. SMB3 Bowser, SMB1 Bowser, Ultra Necrozma and LoZ2 Dark Link are bosses that are _normally_ hard (or at the very least non-trivial) but can be cheesed with specific strategies. Majora and CD-i Ganon have intentionally built-in weaknesses that trivialize the fight. I'd also put CD-i Ganon in a separate "poor design" category. Baby Bowser is designed to fit the low level of difficulty of the game. Medusa... I'm not sure where to put her since I don't know if you can face her without the Sacred Treasures. If you can't, then she's a case of poor design. If you can, then she fits in with Majora and CD-i Ganon as having an intentional weakness. Archer Shadow Kirby is both cheese and poor design, since the AI doesn't really "understand" how to deal with projectile spam. It actually starts to play decently once it gets in on you. MvDK3 Donkey Kong is poor design. Bonetail is an optional boss accessible surprisingly early in the game for supposedly being "end game content", and is balanced as such. If you challenge the pit after beating the Shadow Queen you're actually going to be overleveled. Trace... is honestly a case of coming back to a game actually knowing what you're doing. Apart from levels being higher, Yellow's Champion Rival fight was actually not that much harder, but a lot of people who played Let's Go! also probably played Yellow and knew what to expect. He actually has overall better Pokemon than the Yellow Rival with the exception of Slowbro instead of Alakazam (even then Slowbro's no slouch, metaphorically speaking, it's just more defensively oriented) and Rapidash instead of Ninetales (the only significant downgrade). It also doesn't help that the leveling curve in Let's Go is a LOT more forgiving than the shear brutality of Yellow. Honestly as someone who doesn't even find the Champion Rival fight in Red/Blue that hard these days (heck, even Cynthia is only a mild challenge for me at this point. Haven't fought Mustard but only because Pokemon kinda half-ended at Gen 7 for me anyway) I really couldn't tell that much of a difference in difficulty, partially because I generally end up with level parity with him anyway.
I don't entirely agree - because a) Some of these are essentially cheese strategies you probably wouldn't have done on your first playthrough, unless someone had told you to do things. Show of hands - how many people didn't know you could even do that at 0:48? How many people who made it to Shadow Link instantly thought "I should get in a corner and just stab over and over again"? b) Some of the OPness is intentional (Ie, Fierce Deity Mask) c) Ultra Necrozma really isn't a final boss. It's also a particular cheese strategy that many players didn't know how to do. d) Shadow Kirby and Trace actually put up kind of a fight for you. I personally feel Diantha is an easier final boss - because her team consists largely of glass cannon Pokémon that are hindered by low speed stats and poor movesets (ie, Aurorus doesn't lead so it never has a chance to use any defensive moves to slow you down. Plus it's a glass cannon) e) Look up Veld from Fire Emblem Thracia 776. Seriously - even the Demon King in Fire Emblem Sacred stones needs you to use specific weapons which you'll instinctively place on characters who turn out well, plus the infinite experience means you can easily have your units all maxed out. Veld doesn't even need THAT...
I wouldn't say the majora's mask final boss is easy with majora's mask, since to actually get majora's mask to begin with you need to first practically complete the game...
3:23 Majora’s mask is absolutely not a pathetic boss. The third phase is insane and even speedrunners die to it. But fair play for farming everyone’s engagement.
"I knew it! Battling with you is the most fun." That they made the rival of a Red/Blue remake say that when you defeat him at the end pretty much sums up everything wrong with modern rivals in Pokemon games. I'm not saying they need to be total dicks. But they've become so passive and joyful about failure, that I find it hard to even take them seriously as rivals anymore from an immersion standpoint.
Paulo from Pokémon Masters Ex is actually a fun blend of the old and new. He works with the MC to fight the bad guys, but he's still got a toxic longing for power that legitimately pulls him towards dark paths.
@@innertuber4049 I'm more surprised to learn that game even has any form of a plot. For me though, Nemona has done the "too friendly of a rival" best. But that's because she's already a champion, so isn't trying to be better than the main character. She's trying to nurture them into a worthy opponent for herself, giving her no reason to act competitively throughout the journey. In my opinion, that subtle change in the dynamic made the friendly rival angle work a lot better.
I personally think the new style of rivals which honestly aren't that new with silver being the most recent not friendly rival better as it shows the mc actually has friends that are equal to them compared to hey we found this random guy stealing a pokemon go fight him the whole game
@@bulbaa2241 There's nothing wrong with the rival being a friend. But the whole point of rivalry is to push each other to new heights by striving to be better than the other. Which the newer games have been starting to completely forget, like they think a competitive attitude can't be portrayed without being abrasive. May/Brendan accomplished that balance quite well. Being the main character's friend from the start, but also hating to lose, and always doing their best to become better, thereby pushing the player to do the same. But then you have "rivals" like Hau, who gives so little crap, he completely fails as a rival by providing no motivation to the player to care themselves about growing stronger.
I honestly want to see a rival so inconceivably unhinged that they'd be willing to get their pokemons back into their balls and force you to do the same for the sake of literally throwing hands. In the middle of a televised tournament. As in, your trainer and your rival trainer literally gets fighter-style moves to fight each other with.
The strategy that they used in the video, I actually did as well since I had a zoroark and had it disguised as a pokemon that photon geyser wouldn't work on. In other words, Zoroark cheeses that thing hard.
To be fair to Majora’s Mask, it takes way longer to nab all the masks than just fight Majora normally, so it’s more like a prize for doing all of the other stuff in the game you could’ve ignored lol
Some of these are actually pathetic and the rest are "if you know how to break the battle and you have the infinity+1 sword you can beat the final boss in 7 minutes"
@@bowber3434 i actually found zorua at the school but it had a low catch rate so i said "fvck off you are not going to be useful later on anyway" and boy i was wronggggg
I honestly love how you can cheese Ultra Necrozma with Zorua or Zoroark, but it just goes to show how can fighting that light beast unprepared can become a threat to a run if you choose to fight it normally
If a boss fight requires you to use a specific strategy that you likely had to look up online to defeat it easily, clearly it’s not as pathetic as you make it out to be.
Oh yes that build up and ominous shadow as you realize what’s happened to Baby Bowser. Gameplay different from anything you’ve done before in the game. And of course that iconic finale theme music!
The Let’s go boss was no dominance. Your Pikachu couldn’t one shot anyone, got K.O’d and you needed to use Mega Gyarados. Not exactly a great performance. You should have one shot everyone easily.
It's the installment designed for a younger audience in particular anyway. Even then, as was already pointed out, the whole gimmick is that in these you get a Pikachu/Eevee that doesn't reside in a Pokéball.
@@TunaBear64 Yeah - Sada a little moreso due to Turo's team having more shared weaknesses. Diantha and Geeta do suffer similar problems, in that they have Pokemon that're good on paper but not in practice. But Geeta might have an excuse of a) treating it like a formality (Thus she's holding back) b) Not using her actual team (Her rematch team is way more competently built)
I'm gonna "erm ackshully" here real wuick cause _technically_ that boss in MvDK Miniland Mayhem is only the halfway boss. The actual final boss is MUCH harder
But Majora mask without Fierce Deity mask can be one of deadliest final boss, that Fierce Deity mask is all effort and you are rewarded by smacking the bad mask easily.
Okay but can we talk about how Geeta sends out a setup Pokemon last and a Hail Mary Pokemon earlier after you've just fought four *TYPE-THEMED* trainers before her that were all individually better at compensating their weaknesses than her
@@MasterGeek-mk5ne pathetic is used as the title for every boss shown in the video, so it's harsh considering *only* the Ganondorf boss fight was pathetic.
I'm kinda surprised Earthbound isn't in this list because of how broken multi bottle rockets are. I know to beat Gyigas you have to pray but Pokey on the other hand just gets absolutely wailed on.
I would outright replace Bonetail with Super Dimentio on this list if I could. Regardless of how challenging she is, at least Bonetail isn't mindless. Plus, she's an optional fight that you gotta do after 90 normal battles in a row with no saving in between. Super Dimentio is an actual STORY boss that just sucks.
This is not the only way. Poison, a rattata with endeavor focus sash and quick attack or destiny bond with quick claw. There are A LOT of ways to absolutely humiliate this thing. It's far away from the hardest Pokémon boss battle.
@@MiraakUnofficial tell me, would you go out of your way to get a level 1 rattata with endeavor and go out of your way to get a focus sash just to cheese this fight?
@@jaxsomon3333 For the memes definitely yes but that's not the point. The point is that you can cheese this fight in so many different ways that you can hardly call it one of the hardest fights in Pokémon history.
@@MiraakUnofficialhowever, that applies to most if not all difficult battles against a single pokemon so i believe it is the hardest fight with a single pokemon
@@tylermercado1445 | speaking of which do i have to beat shadow queen before whacka shows up? i tried taking him on after chapter 6 but didn't see him in lap 2 floor 100
@@RaceBandit I know you’re supposed to beat Bonetail and hit Whacka in Keelhaul Key until he stops showing up there. You probably have to beat the game as well to have him show up, but I heard someone unlocked his fight after fulfilling the first 2 conditions and finishing chapter 6.
A lot of people say that ultra necrozma is a pretty hard boss even though he has one weakness dark type moves it feels like you tried everything except dark type move . . Heck I had a friend of mine that was less experienced with Pokemon and when he got to ultra necrozma wasn't so much of a problem even though I want to hear whine about it
I've heard that they actually improved Dark Link's AI in one of the later releases of Zelda II so that standing in the corner and crouching no longer works.
The final boss in Wii Fit should be a backflip
Achievement unlocked: Your son stepped on a crack
@@dwightdeisenhower53lol
Haha
Or perhaps a super boss.
IM GOING TO JUMP!
This feels more like a "how to cheese the final bosses" video
Some of them like Medusa and that kid from let's go pikachu are just easy af with no cheese strategy at all.
@@ZombieChicken1310 Honestly, Trace is prob still harder than Dianthia from XY
@@Latias38 Unless you abuse the DV mechanics in Let's Go, then every opponent is easy if you know how to play the game
Thats just how you beat ganon in that game
@@ZombieChicken1310 yeah but ultrq necrozma is no joke
“NO! NOT INTO THE PIT! IT BURNS!”
Oh so THAT's where that line comes from. I've heard it before but never found where it originally came from.
“I still get the dramatic death scene, but I’m back outside the castle.”
I never would have guessed that line came from literally throwing the book at someone
Squadalaaaaa
@@Exodia_Misogynist We're off!
“Join me link, and I will make your face the Greatest in Koredai! Or else you will *Die!”*
Memz
NO! Not into the pit! IT BURNS!!!
Because TH-cam is where the poop is!
Or else you will Kori-die.
0:05
To be fair, that Shadow Kirby was whooping your ass a bit there.
It's definitely not as easy as they made it sound
He did ONLY press neutral B button. He only used one finger to beat the boss
I’ve fought shadow Kirby and I can confirm it’s easy
Still won with 1 button
Shadow Kirby whoops your ass in all the battle (in the harder difficulty obviously) but in archer is way easier than in the other ones
the first one was where the "DIE" sound came from!?!?!?!?
Yup
Mhm
Yes sIR!
@@GoldInk-ds5up nice
@@TheLordDyl11 nice
As pathetic as Ganon was in Faces of Evil & Wand of Gamelon, at least his cutscenes were iconic during the Spadinner era of YTPs
He is still Iconic. His "Die"is still used to this very day.
Honestly, with how hard the rest if the game is, the final boss feels like a bit of an apology
Calling Ultra Necrozma a “pathetic final boss” is just flat out wrong
A, it’s not the final boss
B, if you’re not expecting it or don’t have an easy counter (Mimikyu or sash, counter/mirror coat), you’re gonna get swept
"YOU will DIE!" wise words
Wrong title for this. It should be, "Easiest ways to defeat Nintendo final bosses." These are mostly just specific situations and strategies. I went up against Ultra Necrozma not knowing what type he was or what moves he used. You guys just looked him up online so you could get a handicap against him. His speed kept outdoing my own and he just kept using Power Gem over and over. Even though all my pokemon were ten levels higher than him, he kept one-shotting my team. It took giving my Noivern a Focus Sash, using the Z-Move on the first go, having the pure luck of Necrozma missing him on the second try and then finishing Necrozma off with Draco Meteor. I don't ever want to go through that again.
I feel ya
You have to suck insane ass to struggle in any pokemon games after black2 white2 or you're very underage
TBH it really isnt hard with no zorua. Salazzle alone (holding sash? I forget if it outspeeds) (or literally anything with toxic) wins if it lands a single toxic (which it does every time) and you can just sac all of your other mons
@@walledbytoxapex You're lucky your salazzle didn't get hit by a Photon Geyser. To tell the truth I'm unsure whether it was a focus sash (which survives one-shot moves) or a Quick Claw.
@@punasher just checked, it was sash. Still, dark types with toxic are pretty common, and quick claw is easily accessible
that 3rd one felt amusing knowing back than people seen ultra necrozma as a super powerful pokemon until some guy brought along a zorua.
do not forget the level 1 rattata
Well, Zorua is not the most common encounter anyways. So Ultra Necrozma is a really tough opponent if you're not bringing the illusionist foxes.
Master ball:
@@evanhernandez2071 you can’t use pokeballs on him
I feel Ultra Necrozoma is more feared during nuzlockes where you can’t guarantee the Pokémon you have.
In Necrozma’s defense, that method itself is what makes it easy. Without it, it’s becomes very difficult to beat it.
And infact, thats only possible due to a oversight in the ai; it would’ve been patched out if it was known early on
Dragonium z, I rest my case.
@@HandyDandyHandiumzorua has been known to break the ai forever, gf just never changes ai code unless they absolutely have to.
@BrainChild542 only works if you outspeed and deal enough dmg.
@@beckhampang191 yeah, I outsped, it koed. I was also pretty underleveled.
Shadow Kirby: According to this guy, he is one of the easiest boss fights in Nintendo History
Also Shadow Kirby: *Dodges every single arrow by literally ducking*
Edit: WHOA MOM I'M FAMOUS
Still looks easy
To be fair, he was holding one button and still won
@@simpvegito5953 Eh true ig
You mean pressing? Holding charges the arrow.@@simpvegito5953
He's a enderkirby
This is just “how to cheese Nintendo bosses” not “most pathetic Nintendo bosses”
Yeah for real. What a crap video.
I wouldn't call Ultra Necrozma with that p-word, it's one of the hardest bosses ever seen in a Pokémon game. You just exploited its AI in an extremely niche and specific way, that's it
if you don’t have Zoroark it is a tough challenge. Additionally I wouldn’t count it as the final boss since you still have to face the elite four and the champion afterwards.
@@flipcamgamerI see it as Pokémon games (besides Gen 1) having 2 final bosses
The antagonist arc's final boss, and the victory road final boss. The names are self explanatory.
"... [Ultra Necrozma] is not smart enough to recognize a certain strategy"
I agree with you, but it also doesn't have an answer for Steel types.
It still counts
Ok but shadow Kirby almost clutched
Clutches are for vehicles 💀
@@pyroflare7774 you don't know expressions? What he said means that the Shadow Kirby almost beat him.
@@P0chuL1ver UWOOOOOAAAAH
@@pyroflare7774 you're clearly a kid for liking your own comment and reacting to people like this.
Aye is not that deep kids
“This modern Pokémon game is the easiest by far!”
*Loses two Pokémon to easily preventable situations.*
Bro is using Full Restores and has a team specifically built to counter Tracy’s. Like that shit is only easy because you made it that way. The beauty of Pokémon games is you can make them as easy or difficult as you want. I can watch that one Mario clip and see Mario is just ducking and Bowser kills himself. Someone watching the Pokemon clip with no knowledge of how the game works would have no idea how to beat this guy
@@SquiggyLivesbtw, which game game was it?
I feel like it's a little unfair to put Majora here since it's actually a fairly challenging boss without Fierce Deity. And yeah I know the video acknowledges that every boss in the game becomes easier with the mask but still
Agreed, especially considering what a pain getting the Fierce Deity is. Getting all the other masks isn’t required, and many probably wouldn’t do it because it’s time consuming, boring, or confusing.
But once you get fierce deity, the fight does become notoriously easy, and I mean hold L and spam b easy
@@lazyryan3766 I mean, yea, but “once you do this complex thing, the final boss is easy,” can be true of any boss. Any Pokemon champion is super easy if you grind your Pokemon to level 100 and use what they’re weak against, the final boss of Final Fantasy VII can be beaten with one or two Knights of the Round summons, if you can go through the convoluted process of getting it, etc.
@@C.V317 In fact, the shadow nightmares in the OG Link's Awakening also fall under this given the final form can be one-shotted with the boomarang.
Just spam spin attack even as regular Link, it's an easy fight.
I still even to this day find everything about cdi ganons fight hilarious
-his iconic ‘you will die’ face
-him absolutely barraging you with fireballs that do nothing
-the fact that his boss stage is literally a staircase
-the stupid book being tossed at him at high speed
-the fact that he has a picture with writing next to him like in a bestiary
-the absolute zero fanfare afterwards
I feel like putting Ultra Necrozma, Majora's Mask and Bonetail in this video isn't fair. They all can be challenging if you don't have the proper setup.
UN especially considering it isn't the final boss
@@danzackblack5829 And neither is Bonetail if we're being honest.
@@princessCashel oh even worse lol
Kirby just straight up bullies his shadowy counterpart 😂
Any cdi cutscene doesn’t feel real due to how many times I’ve seen them in ytp’s
literally its so hard to imagine someone watching and playing those games back when it came out 😭
10:13 the fact you called this shadow kirby boss pathetic even though they got you at low hp
AVGN: 0:04 "He looks like a joke, he makes the Ganon from the cartoon series look bad@$$."
Tbf have you seen dic Ganon in Captain N
The first one is hilarious though. Link not giving a crap and just walking up to the final boss and slamming him into a book then going home. Such a link thing to do
fun fact the reason the fierce deity is the most powerful mask in the game is because link is being possessed by a literal god this was told in the manga long before the events of the game Majora was an evil monster a dragon like creature one day a random traveler came and played a song for majora this song forced majora to dance for days and nights without rest eventually tiring majora out enough for the traveler to kill it he then made majora's mask from the creatures body the traveler in question looked like the fierce deity and was said to be a god.
Also the fierce deity was said to be a bit more malevolent in the manga as link put it on and was nearly completely overtaken by a powerful force
The manga is a non-canon story.
Here's a dumb fact about the final boss about let's go.
Not even a full moveset. Like seriously, all of his mons have only 3 moves, without a _move deleter_
....HOW?
And you know what causes the challenge to be thrown out the window?
KOGA'S. Gym. Guide. Forcing you to catch 3/4 of the pokedex is _absurd_ before the 6th gym.
Not even fire red and leafgreen's national pokedex required no more than LESS THAN HALF.
I literally asked my uncle to help me rebuild a team using his go save to catch new mons and even _then_
The experience boost of traded mons made it a _nightmare_ to control
Also you can literally use 2 pokemon at a time against let's go's final boss in co op mode.
It's 1/3 of the pokedex for Koga's gym.
Tbf unless they have a competitive-tier movesets, which tend to be left til post-game. 3 moves in Pokemon is probably better for the AI than 4.
Otherwise you get stuff like Blues Alakazam having both Psychic and Psybeam and just randomly using the weaker psybeam.
Whereas Traces mons have good coverage without being competitive and don't have any redundant weaker attacks or random bad moves like tail whip or Ember.
Like Blue's Alakazam would literally be more difficult if it only had 1 move, Psychic on its moveset, all the other moves legitimately just end up making the battle easier.
Yeah the movesets are still way stronger than blue's in gen 1. At least he uses Flamethrower instead of Ember. Once you look at blue's gen 1 moveset your entire view of gen 1 difficulty will change forever.
Technically the first one was a CD-I game that used a Nintendo IP, not a Nintendo game but I think we can let it slide.
Not including a single fire emblem boss is criminal. Those things die within a single or 2 turns
Especially idunn from the binding blade she dies in one hit if Roy gets a critical hit
Bro, Garon in FE Fates will always be remembered as the easiest boss I've ever fought lol
"Oh boy, I love being an imposing and threatening final opponent. I sure do hope that nobody finds anything they can exploit to make me as easy to deal with as a tutorial enemy."
Protag: Crouches
"F-ck."
0:11 Oooh so it comes from here OOOOOOOOOOO
the fact that some of these bosses may be actually hard
he just used cheese
I think the intention of CD-i Ganon's boss fight was for Link to be able to get to his lair early, not be able to actually harm him, and get forced to retreat to find the weapon required to defeat him. The game programmers and the writers apparently weren't on the same page with this, and ended up making it out so you can't even get to him until after you have the Book of Koridai to instantly defeat him.
Kinda silly.
That makes sense. It's in line with Zelda 1 and 2, where if you don't have the Silver Arrows/Thunder spell you can't damage the last boss.
Bro I was eating pizza and immediately spit it out when I saw the SMB3 final Bowser lmao
"this pokemon game is way too easy"
**still uses items mid-battle**
Yeah limit yourself to 1 healing item
@@blu3m0nkeyor what if zero items (only held)
Imagine calling a Pokemon game easy, and then still losing two Pokemon, one being Partner Pikachu (who is broken) AND an over leveled Mega Gyarados WHILE using items in battle, in the ONE Pokemon game that has the most simplified mechanics of all Pokemon games.
@@Fury.Bowser1yeah that looked like a fairly normal diff battle for a pokemon game
"Recent Pokémon games aren't known for their difficulty"
I know Legends: Arceus was a final boss fight that got a lot of parties wiped, if you were unfortunate enough to not choose Spiritomb/Blissey/Sylveon...
And DPP remakes had Cynthia, who is, of course, a demon in emo clothes.
And the indigo disk being FOCUSED on competitive
(Also ai sada/turo and terapagos get an mention)
@@HandyDandyHandium I didn't play the newest entry (I don't like the new artistic direction), but I'm interested in understanding what you mean. Would you mind elaborating?
@@sky_pirate the indigo disk is focused on battling and most major trainers have competitive teams, specifically competitive doubles so if you play at the level you’re supposed to (70-90 if i remember correctly) it could be quite difficult but I haven’t played the dlc yet but I’ve seen the teams and gameplay of it
AI Sada/Turo use 570 bst with an attack boosted 590 pkmn and due to the nature of the battle you’re likely only going to know one type each and most are quite fast (135 base speed wtf) and if you play at the level cap (66-67) i can see people easily losing against them
Terapagos is technically the “final” boss of the indigo disk with a tera raid format and being level 85 with a 700 bst and you’re on your own for a lot of the fight so the boosted hp makes it harder; you can use all 6 pokemon however
Terapagos constantly has a shield up which requires tera to break and you need to build up tera over and over due to terapagos using YOUR tera for the shield, terapagos alsp has a stab spread move that does super effective damage to tera’d targets and also has zen headbutt to cover the fighting weakness; it does become easier when kerian joins but that’s to be expected
Man i rambled mb
And really Ultra Sun & Moon in general is actually pretty tough.
"Recent Pokemon games aren't exactly known for their difficulty."
I have 4 words for you: Giratina! Strike them down!
Tracy did NOT deserve Blue’s epic theme.
Facts
Tbh blue isn't that much better especially in the original games (blue is almost pathetic in those games)
At least blue has a team that has all 4 moves
@@ParaternalSkies64yeah but those moves are usually ember, stomp and fury attack. Blue in gen 1 is absurdly easy and much more deserving of the spot in this video. A lot of his moves don't even work in battle.
Zippy zap? That makes it too easy.
Ah yes, with the fierce deity mask, the mask that’s supposed to make every boss easy, you can very easily beat the final boss, I’m so shocked.
Let me heal because this final trainer is so easy, while using my OP super starter, and having that OP start get knocked out. And having my Mega get knocked out too.
Immediately followed by using the known broken build and strategy, and had to grind the Pinata Parlor for hours to required badges.
Im surprised dark nebula is not here
Why is the final boss of Super Paper Mario not on here? If you play as Bowser you can practically kill it in seconds
@@allen_the_king40848 he talked about kirby squeak squad
And he's adding ANOTHER boss who should be here too @@linconnuedetous
Or Dark Crafter. At the very least, Dark Nebula actually has a few attacks (Ones to cheese out of, but at least he has a few attacks). With Dark Crafter, he just floats around in space, throws junk at you, and then he dies. He has ONE attack and that's it.
Wrong ping.
0:12 so that’s where that meme came from 😄
Ik
Majora's Mask is a pure Dark-type.
Majora's Incarnation is a dual-type Dark/Fighting.
Majora's Wrath is a dual-type Dark/Fighting.
Sounds like you need a Fairy type…Tingle is super effective?!
Fairy/Flying because Tingle has balloons @@swrodgon
Damn tingle really counters majora
Tingle might get banned to Ubers at this point.
Link is Fairy. Instant win
All but one apple and then picking up the banana at the end in Yoshi's Story... You monster.
Other than Archer cheese, Kirby Fighters Shadow Kirby might be one of the hardest Nintendo bosses ever
Please note that Necrozma is hard WITHOUT THE CHEESE STRAT
It can genuinely be a challenge
The Let's Go Pikachu example seems a little unfair. Had to use three pokemon, a healing item, and the generation's power-up gimmick? By Pokemon standards that's Dark Souls tough.
Sakurai dropped the ball by not having Ultra Necrozma be one of the bosses SSBU's "World of Light"...
There's a few different categories of bosses here.
SMB3 Bowser, SMB1 Bowser, Ultra Necrozma and LoZ2 Dark Link are bosses that are _normally_ hard (or at the very least non-trivial) but can be cheesed with specific strategies.
Majora and CD-i Ganon have intentionally built-in weaknesses that trivialize the fight. I'd also put CD-i Ganon in a separate "poor design" category.
Baby Bowser is designed to fit the low level of difficulty of the game.
Medusa... I'm not sure where to put her since I don't know if you can face her without the Sacred Treasures. If you can't, then she's a case of poor design. If you can, then she fits in with Majora and CD-i Ganon as having an intentional weakness.
Archer Shadow Kirby is both cheese and poor design, since the AI doesn't really "understand" how to deal with projectile spam. It actually starts to play decently once it gets in on you.
MvDK3 Donkey Kong is poor design.
Bonetail is an optional boss accessible surprisingly early in the game for supposedly being "end game content", and is balanced as such. If you challenge the pit after beating the Shadow Queen you're actually going to be overleveled.
Trace... is honestly a case of coming back to a game actually knowing what you're doing. Apart from levels being higher, Yellow's Champion Rival fight was actually not that much harder, but a lot of people who played Let's Go! also probably played Yellow and knew what to expect. He actually has overall better Pokemon than the Yellow Rival with the exception of Slowbro instead of Alakazam (even then Slowbro's no slouch, metaphorically speaking, it's just more defensively oriented) and Rapidash instead of Ninetales (the only significant downgrade). It also doesn't help that the leveling curve in Let's Go is a LOT more forgiving than the shear brutality of Yellow. Honestly as someone who doesn't even find the Champion Rival fight in Red/Blue that hard these days (heck, even Cynthia is only a mild challenge for me at this point. Haven't fought Mustard but only because Pokemon kinda half-ended at Gen 7 for me anyway) I really couldn't tell that much of a difference in difficulty, partially because I generally end up with level parity with him anyway.
You are challenged by Timmy Turner 12:48
Ultra Necrozma is really easy if you bring a strategy specifically made to counter it, but when you go into that fight blind... Oh boy...
The final boss of New Super Mario Bros DS is just Bowser with Bowser Jr, literally insta win if you have a giga mushroom.
I don't entirely agree - because
a) Some of these are essentially cheese strategies you probably wouldn't have done on your first playthrough, unless someone had told you to do things. Show of hands - how many people didn't know you could even do that at 0:48? How many people who made it to Shadow Link instantly thought "I should get in a corner and just stab over and over again"?
b) Some of the OPness is intentional (Ie, Fierce Deity Mask)
c) Ultra Necrozma really isn't a final boss. It's also a particular cheese strategy that many players didn't know how to do.
d) Shadow Kirby and Trace actually put up kind of a fight for you. I personally feel Diantha is an easier final boss - because her team consists largely of glass cannon Pokémon that are hindered by low speed stats and poor movesets (ie, Aurorus doesn't lead so it never has a chance to use any defensive moves to slow you down. Plus it's a glass cannon)
e) Look up Veld from Fire Emblem Thracia 776. Seriously - even the Demon King in Fire Emblem Sacred stones needs you to use specific weapons which you'll instinctively place on characters who turn out well, plus the infinite experience means you can easily have your units all maxed out. Veld doesn't even need THAT...
Majora's Mask evolves into Majora's Incarnation which evolves into Majora's Wrath.
I agree.
I wouldn't say the majora's mask final boss is easy with majora's mask, since to actually get majora's mask to begin with you need to first practically complete the game...
So Majora’s Mask is a 3-evolution Pokémon.
8:49 TAS speedrun videos be like:
Didn't expect utral necrozma
Why at 16:20 was there a delay before Slowbro used his move? He was _actually_ slow?
Slowbro evolved into Slowgame mid - battle.
He needed a moment to think about what he was doing, don’t blame him.
I like how majora’s mask is one of the hardest zelda bosses out there until you put on the fierce deity mask 😭
3:23 Majora’s mask is absolutely not a pathetic boss. The third phase is insane and even speedrunners die to it.
But fair play for farming everyone’s engagement.
"I knew it! Battling with you is the most fun."
That they made the rival of a Red/Blue remake say that when you defeat him at the end pretty much sums up everything wrong with modern rivals in Pokemon games. I'm not saying they need to be total dicks. But they've become so passive and joyful about failure, that I find it hard to even take them seriously as rivals anymore from an immersion standpoint.
Paulo from Pokémon Masters Ex is actually a fun blend of the old and new. He works with the MC to fight the bad guys, but he's still got a toxic longing for power that legitimately pulls him towards dark paths.
@@innertuber4049 I'm more surprised to learn that game even has any form of a plot.
For me though, Nemona has done the "too friendly of a rival" best. But that's because she's already a champion, so isn't trying to be better than the main character. She's trying to nurture them into a worthy opponent for herself, giving her no reason to act competitively throughout the journey. In my opinion, that subtle change in the dynamic made the friendly rival angle work a lot better.
I personally think the new style of rivals which honestly aren't that new with silver being the most recent not friendly rival better as it shows the mc actually has friends that are equal to them compared to hey we found this random guy stealing a pokemon go fight him the whole game
@@bulbaa2241 There's nothing wrong with the rival being a friend. But the whole point of rivalry is to push each other to new heights by striving to be better than the other. Which the newer games have been starting to completely forget, like they think a competitive attitude can't be portrayed without being abrasive.
May/Brendan accomplished that balance quite well. Being the main character's friend from the start, but also hating to lose, and always doing their best to become better, thereby pushing the player to do the same. But then you have "rivals" like Hau, who gives so little crap, he completely fails as a rival by providing no motivation to the player to care themselves about growing stronger.
I honestly want to see a rival so inconceivably unhinged that they'd be willing to get their pokemons back into their balls and force you to do the same for the sake of literally throwing hands. In the middle of a televised tournament. As in, your trainer and your rival trainer literally gets fighter-style moves to fight each other with.
3:04 WTF?! I LITERALLY HAD POKÉMON ULTRA MOON AND I COULD NEVER! I MEAN NEVER! I COULDNT BEAT ULTRA NECROZMA EVER! I KEPT DYING AND DYING AND DYING!
The strategy that they used in the video, I actually did as well since I had a zoroark and had it disguised as a pokemon that photon geyser wouldn't work on. In other words, Zoroark cheeses that thing hard.
Me too Buddy...i didnt use Cheese Strategies. I played with my Fuegro and the Sticker Pokemon...😂
To be fair to Majora’s Mask, it takes way longer to nab all the masks than just fight Majora normally, so it’s more like a prize for doing all of the other stuff in the game you could’ve ignored lol
CDI Ganon isn't remembered for his "final boss status".
He's remembered for his memeability, shit post status and, his "TH-cam Poop".
15:37 wtf is this attack animation lol
Modern day Pokémon at its finest lol
Some of these are actually pathetic and the rest are "if you know how to break the battle and you have the infinity+1 sword you can beat the final boss in 7 minutes"
I mean, its kinda the point of the fierce deity mask to make the boss a joke, its your reward for completing the game 100%
9:20 Average Link Main
Ultra Necrozma is not the final boss of Ultra Sun and Moon. The final boss is Hau. Ultra Necrozma is still pathetic if you have a Zorua or Zoroark.
Or a Steel type.
@@GlitchanBlack or a level 1 rat
I never used Zoroark against Necrozma, it was tough for me...
I killed it with toxic
omg haha i remember when the toxic strat was the most popular one. ultra necrozma wasnt so easy to cheese when you couldnt get a zoroark
@@bowber3434 i actually found zorua at the school but it had a low catch rate so i said "fvck off you are not going to be useful later on anyway" and boy i was wronggggg
I honestly love how you can cheese Ultra Necrozma with Zorua or Zoroark, but it just goes to show how can fighting that light beast unprepared can become a threat to a run if you choose to fight it normally
It took me 2 tries in Ultra Sun, I had a team of 4 Pokémon
Z moves make it so easy, I one shot it with a dragonium z from a non dragon type pokemon.
19:26 strategy damn I can't believe that troll.
No way bro disrespected Bonetail like that
Cry
@@tropicalcoast02No you first.
@@liyōnonainoroi You’re doing it right now, btw.
@@tropicalcoast02 no i’m not…
@@liyōnonainoroi Yes, you kinda are.
If a boss fight requires you to use a specific strategy that you likely had to look up online to defeat it easily, clearly it’s not as pathetic as you make it out to be.
I miss triple deluxe’s mini games but Kirby fighters was a good mini game for me
And the best final boss : Yoshis island baby bowser.
Holy cow, yoshis story was such a huge let down after that banger.
Oh yes that build up and ominous shadow as you realize what’s happened to Baby Bowser. Gameplay different from anything you’ve done before in the game. And of course that iconic finale theme music!
The Let’s go boss was no dominance. Your Pikachu couldn’t one shot anyone, got K.O’d and you needed to use Mega Gyarados. Not exactly a great performance. You should have one shot everyone easily.
It's a crime to make a list of pathetic final bosses without bringing up the final Bowser fight in Super Mario Galaxy 2
The first phase is pretty tough, the second is pathetic
You know the pokemon series had become childish when pikachu instead of fainting just runs back to you.
No just the partner pikachu. Wild ones you can catch don’t do that.
It's the installment designed for a younger audience in particular anyway. Even then, as was already pointed out, the whole gimmick is that in these you get a Pikachu/Eevee that doesn't reside in a Pokéball.
Can't let your target audience see their Picky Pikachu faint after they use Splishy Splashy Shocky Wocky Floaty Fall!
The moment Pikachu bleeds it's the moment the franchise becomes Shin Megami Tensei
"Pokemon series had become childish"
Has he even laid a finger on Scarlet & Violet?
I think the champion in scarlet and violet is the most pathetic
I only had to use two Pokémon and only 2 of hers even had a chance to move.
I'd argue Diantha since she's actually a final boss. Geeta isn't a final boss.
@@Terestrasz Fair, and AI Sada/Turo is actually challenging
@@TunaBear64 Yeah - Sada a little moreso due to Turo's team having more shared weaknesses.
Diantha and Geeta do suffer similar problems, in that they have Pokemon that're good on paper but not in practice. But Geeta might have an excuse of
a) treating it like a formality (Thus she's holding back)
b) Not using her actual team (Her rematch team is way more competently built)
@Terestrasz Technically, she is because she's a Champion
You did Ultra Necrozma dirty. The intro was pretty cool and the fight is pretty difficult for most players
8:13 "Just have a power-up." And what about us who do no damage runs? What then?
Completely unrelated lmao
@@victorlinares4137 Yeah, I know. Just wanted to point that out.
Didn't know Bowser could not hurt you in SMB3 if you ducked while he did his ground pounding.
I'm gonna "erm ackshully" here real wuick cause _technically_ that boss in MvDK Miniland Mayhem is only the halfway boss.
The actual final boss is MUCH harder
Bro. Ultra necrozma is still tough regardless of anyway
Fr necrozma one shot vaporized by Lurantis and mimikyu
Im pretty sure that the final boss on Festers Quest isn't going to be on this video lol
0:28 link kills Ganon with a FNAF spinoff book
But Majora mask without Fierce Deity mask can be one of deadliest final boss, that Fierce Deity mask is all effort and you are rewarded by smacking the bad mask easily.
Yeah. So many people play it cheaply because of the Fierce Deity. Fighting it normally is indeed a good challenge.
Okay but can we talk about how Geeta sends out a setup Pokemon last and a Hail Mary Pokemon earlier after you've just fought four *TYPE-THEMED* trainers before her that were all individually better at compensating their weaknesses than her
AAAAAA COME ON ULTRA NECROZMA... REALLY?
I like to think the book that link threw at ganondorf was fnaf into the pit bc he says
NO! NOT INTO THE PIT!
Pathetic is a harsh word…
You defeat Gabon by just throwing a damn book
@@MasterGeek-mk5nehow does one die to a BOOK
@@MasterGeek-mk5ne”Gabon”
@@MasterGeek-mk5ne pathetic is used as the title for every boss shown in the video, so it's harsh considering *only* the Ganondorf boss fight was pathetic.
@@MasterGeek-mk5neI know Gabon has a low literacy rate but you don't have to insult the whole country.
I kinda wanna play USUM, those games look mad fun, and ultra necrozma is so cool too!
in thousand year door you can do that stratagy against every single boss
I'm kinda surprised Earthbound isn't in this list because of how broken multi bottle rockets are.
I know to beat Gyigas you have to pray but Pokey on the other hand just gets absolutely wailed on.
Super Dimentio in Super Paper Mario becomes a joke if you use Slim.
wow really? didn't know it lol
every boss is a joke when bowser appears
He was way too easy
I would outright replace Bonetail with Super Dimentio on this list if I could. Regardless of how challenging she is, at least Bonetail isn't mindless. Plus, she's an optional fight that you gotta do after 90 normal battles in a row with no saving in between. Super Dimentio is an actual STORY boss that just sucks.
@@dylbill56remixes2899 battles to face _him_
DK really said "I'll try spinning, that's a neat trick!"
Calling ultra necrozma, one of the hardest bosses in all of pokemon, pathetic just because it has a pretty specific cheese if very stupid.
This is not the only way. Poison, a rattata with endeavor focus sash and quick attack or destiny bond with quick claw. There are A LOT of ways to absolutely humiliate this thing. It's far away from the hardest Pokémon boss battle.
@@MiraakUnofficial tell me, would you go out of your way to get a level 1 rattata with endeavor and go out of your way to get a focus sash just to cheese this fight?
@@jaxsomon3333 For the memes definitely yes but that's not the point. The point is that you can cheese this fight in so many different ways that you can hardly call it one of the hardest fights in Pokémon history.
@@MiraakUnofficialhowever, that applies to most if not all difficult battles against a single pokemon so i believe it is the hardest fight with a single pokemon
@@HandyDandyHandium Fair enough
A moment of silence for those who didn't know where the CD-I Ganon audio came from until this video.
_Anything_ in TTYD melts if you use the Danger archetype. It's why I banned it from my playthrough.
With a bunch of Power Rush badges, you can do the same to Whacka in the remake.
@@tylermercado1445 | speaking of which do i have to beat shadow queen before whacka shows up? i tried taking him on after chapter 6 but didn't see him in lap 2 floor 100
@@RaceBandit I know you’re supposed to beat Bonetail and hit Whacka in Keelhaul Key until he stops showing up there. You probably have to beat the game as well to have him show up, but I heard someone unlocked his fight after fulfilling the first 2 conditions and finishing chapter 6.
@@tylermercado1445 | Whoops, not sure why I didn't think of hitting Whacka even once...
I'm not kidding I actually struggled the hell out of the rival final boss from Pokemon Eevee but in my defense I was new to Pokemon
A lot of people say that ultra necrozma is a pretty hard boss even though he has one weakness dark type moves it feels like you tried everything except dark type move
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Heck I had a friend of mine that was less experienced with Pokemon and when he got to ultra necrozma wasn't so much of a problem even though I want to hear whine about it
I've heard that they actually improved Dark Link's AI in one of the later releases of Zelda II so that standing in the corner and crouching no longer works.