Redesigning The Sonic Cast - DanSpex

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  • I'm here to redesign the sonic cast in response to the bland 3D models Sega has been using for the past 23 years. I hope to bring new life into these characters so they can actually emote and BE characters. I hope you enjoy!
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  • @RandomNTH
    @RandomNTH ปีที่แล้ว +228

    These designs look so cool. Sonic is in drastic need for redesigns, so these fit the bill pretty well.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thank you! Glad you like them

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@danspex.
      Sonic:-"the chest is too buff-looks like he switched body type with knuckles,arms and legs need to be thicker(like most others' honestly but whatever for now, why do his shoes and gloves Still, have So Mutch Room?),his eyes should be more horizontal like Sonic Prime(or the animation you showed, to look like two raindrops slightly fused),otherwise, not bad".
      Tails:-"couldn't you make the yellow work-like a shade reminiscent of bananas?,if I've been you, would've gotten rid all of his tuffts for good,make his arms white,blue shoes,and gray rubber lab gloves(like Boom's) and white parts of his shoes gray too".
      Knuckles:-"sharp_knuckles_are kind of his thing"-",how is he supposed to climb walls?-"that should've been kept,his spines/hair or whatever should be six,his white chest crest should be colored like his cheeks"-"both darker shade like in game colors,the tail should be straight like his in game sprite animations showed,the yellow streak on his shoes should be the whole knee til toes area_like in the games_and color it black and yellow instead(Sonic has white racing stripes on his shoes, This way, you'd make them more"opposite"plus o.v.a reference),more Round head shape,simular mouth design to Sonic but regular slightly pointy nose,back spikes like Sonic's in underground but turned upwards"?
      Amy Rose:-"No tuffts(their just too mutch like Tails, remove them, but her's just from the head),"ring/bracelets(they look too mutch like shadow's),Red eyes(to compliment her pink fur),racing stripes/socks on her boots(that's sonic's thing)"-"purple dress,slitted spiky skirt(reminiscent of an opened up daisy flower from upwards face angle to prevent peaking😏😉),open back but simular back spikes to Knuckles'(As described above),can still have sleaves like Prime's, but have horizontal orange racing stripes run down from them til reaching the hips". Their the perfect mix between reinventing the wheel and staying faithful, I think. Maybe someday could give them a try?

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@danspex. Their indeed, interesting.

    • @Copter200
      @Copter200 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@erikbihari3625
      Now This is Constructive criticism.

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Copter200. I try doing my Best.

  • @wyvernwastakenwastaken
    @wyvernwastakenwastaken ปีที่แล้ว +451

    these designs are really good, I think tails' eyes look kinda weird. overall though I hope these get 3d modelled soon

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +85

      I’d love to see how these would look in 3D

    • @pattik_
      @pattik_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

      no they don’t

    • @toeisonicthecutebluehedgeh516
      @toeisonicthecutebluehedgeh516 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@pattik_not his bro they look like thick triangles

    • @HAKOSCORNER
      @HAKOSCORNER ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I personally like the way his eyes look,
      and these redesigns are great, i agree with that.

    • @endiethething2324
      @endiethething2324 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The eyes probably could be more "ovaly" but if it were ever used in action as is it would be great

  • @xavior4486
    @xavior4486 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    Even tho I personally don't mind the current models and there's been official proof that they can look good imo, I still love your interpretations of them(barring some small nickpicks for some).
    I'm fine if they keep or update the models either way. All I would want is them to make the current models more animation friendly if they decide to keep them. Frontiers was a step in the right direction in that regard.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Yea I highly doubt they would change the models entirely but I feel like if they evolve the ones they have now and actually animate them properly that would be cool. I’m actually just now thinking about it but wreck it Ralph 2 is actually a good example it’s the best I’ve seen the modern design portrayed. Thanks for watching the video!

    • @kikosquirrel4967
      @kikosquirrel4967 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If more "Friendly" you mean more mature and well thought it, then yes.. It is more "Friendly"

    • @Apex_YT_117
      @Apex_YT_117 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kikosquirrel4967 he meant animation-friendly, or in other words, "well suited for animation"

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Apex_YT_117."Greg Martin"s-"eyes, can't emote beyond permenant scowl without downsize or seporation. Prime's is good compromise!

  • @BluStarDogger7490
    @BluStarDogger7490 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I think the exposed back on Amy's dress was to portray that she also enjoys fashion and shopping.
    In Sonic Shuffle, she once said "Forget about Sonic, look at my dress"

  • @widerekxxanimations6842
    @widerekxxanimations6842 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    i honestly like sonic being more lanky honestly, I can see why people woudn't like it, but i do, also i feel like making his arms smaller makes them crossing their arms look worse, since you would no loner see the arms just big blobs of hands, like when amy crossedher arms in heroes

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Yea the hands would have to be smaller to compensate so they can actually fit in between the arms

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you seen"the animation of Sonic Games"too?

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danspex. Yeah, less classic Mickey Mouse, and more"Tom and Jerry"!

    • @widerekxxanimations6842
      @widerekxxanimations6842 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@erikbihari3625 yes i have, why?

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@widerekxxanimations6842. Because it had good ideas and said a lot of smart things(minus everything regarding Amy. For that check out:-"Amy Rose is a strong female character"by"taro marshmellow")!

  • @aryandairshad
    @aryandairshad ปีที่แล้ว +45

    These redesigns are fantastic, I love all of them! Happy to know someone else appreciates the SA1 Dreamcast model cuz that look is PEAK (personally).

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      SA1 Dreamcast model supremacy! Thank you for the kind words

    • @HiCringe
      @HiCringe ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe 80% of the sonic fandom can agree that the dreamcast models are peak

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, they look more like Tom and Jerry characters rather than inspired by classic Mickey Mouse, wich is a good compromise!

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HiCringe. I never heard This brought up, just the music as being uniting all who fractured!

    • @Arthemisanimationsandmusic
      @Arthemisanimationsandmusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HiCringe sa2 is also really good

  • @realmarchie
    @realmarchie ปีที่แล้ว +25

    LOVE THESE! Especially tails. He looks like a little sidekick rather than a teen who doesn’t really need to be around anymore 😭

    • @Vitallor
      @Vitallor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      After frontiers tails did want to do other things though other than just sticking round sonic

  • @orzen_the_orzo933
    @orzen_the_orzo933 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I really like your designs, especially Knuckles. But I like Tails' white fur being a little beigeish but just a tiny bit so it's still bright and almost white; also I do like orangeish Tails more than yellow Tails.
    I would like to see another video, with Shadow, Silver, Metal Sonic, and Blaze, but you can just do whoever you like.

    • @Solesteam
      @Solesteam ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Tails according to his original sprites and artwork was meant to be orange, never Super Sonic levels of yellow.

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Solesteam. But it looks better on him, the Sonic sequel found shades that aren't quite orange.

    • @Solesteam
      @Solesteam ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@erikbihari3625 *In your opinion.* To me he looks like plastic cheese such a bright yellow.

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Solesteam. Orange would look a lot better on cream honestly, and not just in mine, he looks better color wise in the sequel!

  • @flamango4660
    @flamango4660 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Ok, I have some thoughts regarding Knuckles. I think your design has the right idea, but I'd go about it a little differently.
    In regards to the arm thing, I think for the flexibility in animation and the consistency with the other characters I'd make his arms noodly. to get around the issue of them not looking sturdy enough, I'd make them get thicker towards the hands. (this is something I'd like to do with the rest of the cast, but for them it would be a very subtle effect, similar to the SA2 models, while with knuckles it's more exaggerated.)
    I also couldn't help but notice that his hand's look a lot smaller in your design. (I'm not sure if this was intentional). I would keep his hand's absurdly large because I feel like without that he doesn't pack the same (heh) punch.
    Lastly, If we're making his torso bigger I might want to make his quills slightly longer so we don't lose that flow they have with the rest of the design. Your design gives the impression that his head is a little far back and I think this might be a reason why.

  • @amesstarline5482
    @amesstarline5482 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I like that these designs are more subtle- while still showing some more personality in shape and depth.

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว

      I leaved a comment amoung these, describing how personally would've done it. Check out, it's interesting!

  • @LoganDoesStuffLDS
    @LoganDoesStuffLDS ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Old movie Sonic design described in a nutshell. 0:38

  • @PAHG2
    @PAHG2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    As a VERY struggling aspiring character designer, this actually piqued my interest. I didn't expect to like this video (take that as you will), but I learned a lot, and I love to learn so like, yeah. I'm very bad at designing characters to look distinct from one another, so this helped for any future endeavors.
    Anyways, side tangent, I gotta mention how good the current 3D models can look/do look in 2D art. Tyson Hesse and Yuji Uekawa really let these designs show, while adding tidbits of their flare to it to make them look stylized. For example, look at TSR: Overdrive, Chao In Space, and even Sonic Frontiers Prolouge: Divergence. The Sonic Channel art is also a really good example. Also, gotta mention Evan Stanley, gotta be some of the best interpretation of these 3D models to 2D art.
    Also, fan renders and the CGI cutscenes done by Marza, and formerly Blur, are AMAZING in terms of posing, expression, and overall liveliness when it comes to these models that can often look very dead. The Sonic Unleashed opening, Night of the Werehog, Black Night and Secret Rings CGI, the Sonic Lost World opening, and nothing beats the absolute beauty of Sonic 06 CGI, which both studios worked on, actually. Also, the promo animations for Sonic Frontiers and Forces look relatively eye-catching and filled with detail. Sucks that we didn't get to see them in-game, I'm still mad about that.
    Anyways, I've talked WAY too long about stuff no one cares about, so goodbye for 1000 years. :))

    • @NIGHTBLOODUSAGI
      @NIGHTBLOODUSAGI ปีที่แล้ว +3

      don't worry! It was very nice to read!

    • @HiCringe
      @HiCringe ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I didn't get bored at all and I found a lot of opinions I can relate to in your comment :)

    • @BJSolar02
      @BJSolar02 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're not the only who sucks at character designing

  • @Tessodan
    @Tessodan ปีที่แล้ว +32

    For tails I'd suggest giving him those black lines on the wrist of his gloves to make them seem like work gloves! Basically the gloves he had in his classic design

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or how about making them other colored rubber gloves(like Boom's)? But not a bad idea, honestly.

  • @nightalie143
    @nightalie143 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    i love tails' eyes because it reminds me of the first version of him in my opinion the best version because he looks like a kid, hes orange, body is tiny and his limbs are short and thats what you did but his torso is bigger but that doesnt matter that much hes still a cute kid

  • @sumstoopidcreator
    @sumstoopidcreator ปีที่แล้ว +16

    These look amazing! I would absolutely love metal sonic in this type of style hell even Eggman would look great! Can’t wait to see more!

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Would definitely love to redesign those two!

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danspex. I have some ideas, like make him have just goggles, he's moustache should be red(as if he's irish), spendax suspendor with egg buttons around his orange coat, ect.

  • @DoggoDoesStuff1
    @DoggoDoesStuff1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I wish the official design Amy had her classic quills, the weird hair looking quills look pretty boring, especially for her silhouette, at least to me.
    These redesigns are fantastic tho, keep up the great work. I loved the vid

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That would be interesting to see modern Amy with her classic quills. The way I always saw it was her headband was pushing her quills down. Thank you I’m glad you loved the vid!

  • @shades50
    @shades50 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'd love to see you redesign Team Dark, Team Chaotix, Silver, Blaze, Metal Sonic, The Deadly Six, Super Sonic, Super Shadow and Infinite(even though personally I love Infinite's design)

  • @Olli3innit
    @Olli3innit ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These designs look amazing, with the tails design I completely agree with the spiky stupid things, it's hard to draw and makes me more unable and make it annoying and a burden for drawing him, I will use these in drawings, you should defenitly do shadow, silver and eggman next, mabey metal sonic since he looks barely anything like sonic now

  • @Mr.Wiggles445
    @Mr.Wiggles445 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the darker colors you used for sonic and tails and the knuckles redesign is perfect imo hope you do a part 2 maybe do shadow,Rouge,Silver and blaze could be fun either way great video man!

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you glad you liked the designs!

  • @cumradej
    @cumradej ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You gotta make an animatic of those Twitter take overs in color! It would be so cool! I noticed a few of the details in the ones you did so far so it’s nice to hear the thought behind it. I especially like the adventure art style influence.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If I do another animatic I could definitely color it. The adventure art style is the best!

  • @realcloud9939
    @realcloud9939 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not super into art but found this video really interesting. Love your vibe you seem very chill would totally watch more videos on your sonic opinions or any other video game related stuff 👍

  • @BinglesP
    @BinglesP ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome redesigns! I'd love if some official media took notes from/like these!

  • @hamzagamalelgamal
    @hamzagamalelgamal 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This looks really cool and good. Would love for you to do that with the other series' characters (shadow, rouge, cream, big, etc)

  • @pinkheartgamers5007
    @pinkheartgamers5007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your Color shading and characters proportions reminds me of the satoshi okano art of sonic for the modern sonic designs ( Artist for the Japanese version of sonic 3D blast). The darker bolder colors and the body proportions allowed for some expressive posing and dynamic expressions. Makes it have a retro look but more defined for modern audiences. Great work

  • @blunderguy2571
    @blunderguy2571 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tails with blue shoes would look kinda cool tho, you might wanna try it.

    • @mill2712
      @mill2712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've seen a blue shoe'd Tails floating around quite a bit. I wonder what lead to its resurgence?
      (I know it was a concept design but I'm just wondering why artists are starting to color them blue all of a sudden.)

    • @blunderguy2571
      @blunderguy2571 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mill2712 Both orange from Tails and blue are complementary colors, you can see that by Sonic and Tails matching eachother visually.
      It became popular because of fanarts and a false concept art.

  • @gangsta_gator
    @gangsta_gator 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these redesigns. Especially how you took the originals and tweaked them to be better rather than a complete overhaul!

  • @Leo_ke__
    @Leo_ke__ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These videos make me happy^^ great job mate👍

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoy it!

  • @OOFMAJOR
    @OOFMAJOR ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These designs are fantastic!!

  • @Apple_Jackson
    @Apple_Jackson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved the video, great points and the designs look so lively with the tweaks! Would love to see more videos and maybe to even make it a series! Would love to see Team Chaotix next! 🤠

  • @RegularStudios2020
    @RegularStudios2020 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Still love this video. It's what inspired me to go all out with my designs and experiment with new works for it!

    • @danspex
      @danspex  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s awesome! Really cool I could do that for you and glad to hear about your designs, keep up the good work!

    • @RegularStudios2020
      @RegularStudios2020 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danspex Same to you!

  • @crystalinesunshine2927
    @crystalinesunshine2927 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, they look amazing! You did great.

  • @Pico_Friday_Night_Funkin
    @Pico_Friday_Night_Funkin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've gotta say, these redesigns are actually pretty good!

  • @brunoangelfraiden
    @brunoangelfraiden ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG I love your designs!!! EVERYONE looks AMAZING and more like they're Adventure designs and i LOVE THAT 💗💗💗💗. Actually, i like both Amy's dresses, the backless one is iconic but the Prime one looks great too, is better for combat i think so fits the character.

  • @RCroley26
    @RCroley26 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love the designs bro!

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks man!

  • @InuyashaMiles
    @InuyashaMiles ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these designs so much. They feel nostalgic and have such a lively punch to their models. I definitely do prefer these over the modern sonic models.

  • @espinoth9913
    @espinoth9913 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see more redesigns, these all have so much more character to them. If they were 3D rendered and given the same sort of soft shading that gets effected by dynamic lighting as has been drawn on a number of IDW Sonic comic covers (like one of the R1 variant covers for the 5th anniversary edition oneshot), it would be an absolutely perfect combination.
    These designs are the perfect stylistic evolutions of the current models and I hope to see more!

  • @eyesack_bones
    @eyesack_bones ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You haven’t redesigned anything. Those are the exact same character designs, this video should be “drawing sonic characters in a different art style” instead or something. They look good but that’s not what that means.

  • @UltimateTS64
    @UltimateTS64 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the ideas of these, and really like Amy's look, but Sonic just rubs me the wrong way. Idk if it's just cause I'm used to the old proportions, or if this version just needs to be in motion, but he just doesn't look right too me. Maybe it's the chest cause that immediately stood out. It's not bad, just not what I prefer

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea this design is definitely different from what we’re used to and I’d love to animate these designs someday, if I ever have the time

  • @Tzarina8472
    @Tzarina8472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my fanfics, I've done some region based prevailing genetics work to help characters from similar areas have hints of similar features. This will be important when I convert the books into visual mediums. For example, on Christmas Island the people are fierce and independent to a fault. They're all edge lords, so they will have harsher, sharper features. Sonic will reflect this in having a wider angle in his forehead between his eyes, giving him something closer to a V shaped face. Amy's family on the other hand comes from here and there, but mostly in areas where it's easier to live and people have softer, rounder, and basically cuter features. She will have a narrower angle to the same spot between her eyes, making them more parallel with each other.

  • @CJs_Will
    @CJs_Will ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve found a new top 10 sonic channel, also the designs look great!

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you I really appreciate hearing that! Can’t wait to keep making more content

  • @SPIDERKN1GHT0327
    @SPIDERKN1GHT0327 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These designs are peak. But I think Tails' eyes should be longer. But yeah/ 10/10 designs

  • @WAXPAPER149
    @WAXPAPER149 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like these redesigns you’ve made, it feels like retro sonic art.

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You nailed it with all of them... except Sonic, I feel like he has too much body and too little leg, his whole thing is he runs fast, so I feel like the original limb to body proportions of the current model would work better.

    • @tidepoolclipper8657
      @tidepoolclipper8657 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His Knuckles design reminds me a bit too much of Boom Knuckles.

  • @Narnes64
    @Narnes64 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ooh these are surprisingly pretty nice! I especially like the darker fur colors.
    Guess I’ll give one nitpick for each character as well though just in case any of them stand out to you if you continue this series (which I hope you do)
    - I do think you should make sonics shoes a bit more pointy at the front. The strange bump in the ends just don’t give me sneaker vibes.
    - like other comments mentioned something does feel a bit weird with tails eyes. Ironically I think it would help if you rounded out the tops of them a bit more
    - I think the back of Knuckles head is a bit too big or perhaps it’s just the one dread behind us arm that’s throwing me off…
    - I’m sorry but with Amy it just looks like you gave her a bigger… chest. I know you said that the main change was to the Prime dress that fixed the back but I think I’m that case you should have made the pose to show that change or also included a back profile. That way it doesn’t just look like the only change you made to her was giving her bigger… chest

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว

      A:"Yeah it does look closer to a smaller clown shoe. B:"the bottom looks a bit too sharp as well, I think. C:"the odd numbered spines and egg shaped head contribute to it. D:"how about if she has back spines like Sonic? That way, the open back would be not just stylish, but functional(it's crazy that her original design that actually needed, doesn't have it, yet This does, sega is so Crazy, sometimes, No"?")!

  • @metam8378
    @metam8378 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I think frontiers had a good design for sonic, specifically the in game model. Idk why they don’t just use that for promotions since he’s basically a shorter more classic looking modern sonic. And the fact that they weren’t lazy with the animations in that game opposed to Forces, it looks pretty solid. If he had more energetic expressions, I honestly think he’d be the definitive sonic model. I love your art tho they’re all perfect

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank you, and yea frontiers was definitely a good step in the right direction hopefully they can go further with it as the games go

    • @areakastudios6704
      @areakastudios6704 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Frontiers did have some pretty solid expressions from time to time. The cutscene where he talks to sage on chaos island is a highlight for me.

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, but Thor really, Sonic can still barely emote beyond a permenant scowl there, and"the mascot suit problem"still persists(check"the animation of Sonic Games")!

  • @bongwaterboi209
    @bongwaterboi209 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly, your designs, the original modern designs. The prime designs and the movie designs are not going to lie . Look the same. Yeah, there are some things different, but still, they all look the same.

  • @lightuptheray4799
    @lightuptheray4799 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with everything you say here sonic being dark blue and tails being orange is AMAZING AND I LOVE THESE REDESIGNS TAILS IS SO GOOD 😭😭😭

  • @Crevture72
    @Crevture72 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video ROCKS Daniel!!

  • @Sonex1512
    @Sonex1512 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good redesigns earned a sub

  • @vexgamer5014
    @vexgamer5014 ปีที่แล้ว

    Part 2 now.
    Seriously though, awesome job! I liked it a lot

  • @LightspeedAdventurer
    @LightspeedAdventurer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:30 I think the top of his eye isn't round enough there, and his brow isn't big enough, and his mouth looks a bit strange, but it looks right with your design. I think you also got the colours right, and the look of the spikes does look really good, much better than the modern official renders. The mouth and the way the eyes curve into the mouth part also looks really great, and also the pupils looked a bit too circular on the official renders, and once again your design looks better there.
    Your Tails design looks really good as well, but I think the tops of his eyes could be a bit rounder and slightly bigger, and his tails also look better than the official renders. I think his proportions, next to the other characters, are really fitting for him (because he's literally 8, and the others are 12-16 lol)
    Knuckles' eyes kinda looked a bit too big compared to the size of, and his socks literally looked like *short hollow green cylinders,* and I agree with you about his proportions. Your design really makes his eyes look a lot better, his socks actually look like socks, and I really like his proportions on your design. Also his muzzle area was kinda too big in the official renders, but looks much better on your design.
    Your Amy design looks *SO* much better than how her current render looks, she looks much better with bigger eyes and slightly differently shaped pupils.
    I completely agree with 10:48, the image on the right definitely looks much better. It's really a shame how the characters' eyes look so much worse in 3D than they do in 2D... Your designs and the IDW characters look so much better in that area. I absolutely love your designs, and I think they would look really awesome in an official game, much better than the current official designs!

  • @SonicTheBlueBlur15
    @SonicTheBlueBlur15 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Finally someome agrees with me that uekawas been losing his edge

  • @yasthemann
    @yasthemann ปีที่แล้ว

    i really love these designs especially what you did with the shoes

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you I definitely thought the shoes needed an overhaul

    • @yasthemann
      @yasthemann ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danspex yeah, those are not meant for easy movement

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really loved that philosophy of slight enchantments and evolution vs a total reinvention that doesn't even resemble what it once was.
    Truthfully, I don't know much about character design but I do know a bit about franchises I love and I often feel that in today's world, companies and cooperation are dead set on completely reinventing franchises to the point where they barely resemble what they once were. Consequentially, this new iteration ends up having little to nothing of what made me love the original incarnation so much.
    But that's why I loved your point, I think it is a true lesson that should not only be applied to character design but other areas of media as well. I really hope that not just Sega hears it, but any and all media corporations that are considering making changes to beloved franchises.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn’t of have said it better myself, thank you for your wisdom Obi-Wan

  • @Gamerbropart2
    @Gamerbropart2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I mean they aren’t bad they just need
    A upgrade to fit 2023s lifestyle
    Even Nintendo has upgraded Mario and star fox
    And I think sonic needs some of that treatment

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly it really needs that modern polish, the renders they have now still look like they did in the late 2000s

  • @SatoruArmin
    @SatoruArmin ปีที่แล้ว

    your take on tails' eyes looks so perfect, god i hate the eyes his model has rn, hope sega looks at your designs man

  • @GWTVideos
    @GWTVideos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these sonic redesigns, 10/10

  • @casswah7565
    @casswah7565 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the video, great quality

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Really means a lot to me!

    • @Gamerbropart2
      @Gamerbropart2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danspex talk to Sega they might hire you to do this

  • @Thatonemetalsonicfan
    @Thatonemetalsonicfan ปีที่แล้ว

    I gotta say I love your redesign for sonic in particular manly from those shoes, the feel more like shoes instead of those boots.

  • @aluzion2616
    @aluzion2616 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That Tails and Amy expression and personality BRO WOW
    A part 2 with shadow silver Blaze and stuff 👀👀👀

  • @toneeyyhh
    @toneeyyhh ปีที่แล้ว

    I never thought the designs were ever bland. I just think they’ve been around for so long that we got tired of them

  • @thatrandomredengine9430
    @thatrandomredengine9430 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why does nobody wanna give Tails blue shoes?!
    It looks so much better 💙

  • @egg8404
    @egg8404 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would honestly look pass sonic's model if it had any sort of cartoony shading like in breath of the wild, something like that would really help the models feel good.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would be cool to have a sonic game with cell shading or anything to make it stand out

    • @egg8404
      @egg8404 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danspex Heck, they could even go one step further and make models and shading based on the old sonic adventure art work, then keep this style for future games with minor tweaks.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@egg8404 that is such a good idea I’d kill to have a game styled like that

  • @krystiangacha9469
    @krystiangacha9469 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good! Slight changes of design and logo makes me better!

  • @baashasucks
    @baashasucks 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A cel-shaded Sonic game and a Riders-influenced redesign of the flat illustration style is what I'd love to see, tbh. I think late 90s/early 2000s aesthetics are the sweet spot for "Sonic cool".

  • @jayceallen6530
    @jayceallen6530 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you also making knuckes buff, i like to give him a bigger chest and larger arms and the sonic movie really helped me draw him that way

  • @slateoffate9812
    @slateoffate9812 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree the render work hasn't been the best and the proportions could definitely use some workshopping.
    My ideas for redesigns?
    Sonic: His shoes need an overhaul. Nowadays they look like inflexible bricks. I think the movie shoes are in the right direction. I also want him to have some kind of wind motif, but don't know how to incorporate that into his design.
    Tails: I think Boom Tails' goggles and utility belt are a step in the right direction, but I'd make Tails orange, incorporate the Jet Anklets into his shoes instead of just letting them cling there like in Adventure. I'd also want Tails to have a recurring combat weapon instead of changing it every single game. Personally, I'd give Tails a pair of Turbine-like Orbitars/Satellites like in Kid Icarus Uprising.
    Knuckles: In general, I think shoes in Sonic should be more flexible, but in Knuckles' case, maybe they can recontectualized as sandals like Big? I'd also reshape his fist spikes, curl them threateningly instead of bland cones.
    Amy: I like her Summer Olympic Design, though I'd lift the dress neck, make it red instead of magenta(shoes too), and give her her normal wrist rings to resemble inhibitor rings.

  • @emrass7721
    @emrass7721 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are amazing and I like these much more than the current official models. As for suggestions, I'd like to see your take on all of the characters, but some highlights are: The Chaotix, Shadow, Cream, and Dr. Robotnik.

  • @KeyleeTamirian
    @KeyleeTamirian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On Amy's eyebrows, i prefer original one. Because that's eyelashes.
    And i just like how adorable she looks like ^^

  • @irisblom9509
    @irisblom9509 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Being a semi outsider to the sonic fandom I actually prefer the boom!designs more. They're really cool and It gives them way more personality

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea I will admit the boom designs fit more with their character types in the show, I just love the adventure era artwork

    • @irisblom9509
      @irisblom9509 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danspex thats fair. The adventure style really matches that games more cool and "edgy" tone. It fits it perfectly

  • @sanzei611
    @sanzei611 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Little comment on the proportions: The defunct Sonic Runners game actually shortened character limbs in-game, and made them look actually pretty good compared to the regular size

  • @TheBestLoyalist
    @TheBestLoyalist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got over 150 subs recently too man, you went up in subs pretty quick good job on the fast growth

  • @ChiseledPeanut
    @ChiseledPeanut ปีที่แล้ว

    You underrated!!! Like fr nice art 👍

  • @__yugo__
    @__yugo__ ปีที่แล้ว

    God i really wish sega initially stuck with the blue shoes for tails, he would looks so perfect w/ them! 😭

  • @kyur4the1tch
    @kyur4the1tch ปีที่แล้ว

    rad redesigns, it shows so much more character than the current models

  • @kikosquirrel4967
    @kikosquirrel4967 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it me or does your Sonic looks like the one from FNF? 😂
    But tossing that aside, l really dig those designs you did, l've never noticed those mistakes or nitpick before, but now that you mentioned that.. You've greatly improved them.
    My favorite one has to be Knuckles! ^^ Just by how you balanced out the Boom design with the modern one, like l never seen being done before!! (except the movie) 🤩🤩🤩
    I do hope you do the rest of the characters from the franchise, so that l could hear from you more thoughts on their designs as well.
    Good job, man 👍 You've got my interest and respect
    P.S. Great way to turn Tails fur into orange, it's like an homage to the original Tails who was sorta orange there. I never knew why they would make him yellow since he was orange, but l'm glad you put it like this 😄

  • @amoridelatreche
    @amoridelatreche ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice designs

  • @Stewwit
    @Stewwit ปีที่แล้ว

    I NEED 3D MODLES OF THESE NOW (also tails w/ blue shoes could have pretty cool to make them a bit more different then sonic's)

  • @BunnyTPerson
    @BunnyTPerson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd change Amy's dress to something else, one thing that particularly bothered me about her design, is how in Sonic Adventure you can see her panties during gameplay.

  • @tidepoolclipper8657
    @tidepoolclipper8657 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reason they still have those designs is because they're conceptually good designs. You've admitted the fanbase is able to use those designs effectively. Not to mention Sega has talented animators. But for some reasons they're being restricted; especially infamously with the eyes.
    Really, I have more of a problem with the people in charge of the renders. Also, can we please give Modern Sonic back his longer quills? Shorter quills don't work for him.

  • @naintham5849
    @naintham5849 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    these are actually really good, espeacilly about kcukles

  • @ShrekWazowski490
    @ShrekWazowski490 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looking back, now that sonic prime is out, I can’t imagine what his reaction was to seeing Amy’s dress

  • @MattTOB618
    @MattTOB618 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh hey, you're redesigning the Sonic cast! That's not a topic rife with controversy or anything!
    (Flashbacks to the lead-up to Sonic Boom)
    But yes, I agree: the current models aren't the best.

  • @thedoc6304
    @thedoc6304 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really liked these, especially tails and knuckles. It would be cool to see a part 2, maybe with silver shadow blaze and big? Ik the last two are random but that’s just a personal preference on what I think could be cool with some of these redesigns

  • @jamainegardner4193
    @jamainegardner4193 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the redesigns, but I'd just like to point some things out.
    Sonic: I feel like taking some inspiration from Heroes/Shadow and their more round versions of the upper body would work better.
    Amy: She's actually a lot younger than Sonic and shouldn't be as close to his height as she's seen here.
    Knuckles: I think bulkier gloves with sharper points would drive home the fact that Knuckles is actually meant to be fast.

  • @mercurymoon9344
    @mercurymoon9344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like the designs for the main cast, especially sonic cause is very close the Dreamcast sonic. Honesty if Sega makes Frontiers 2 or just another open world sonic game, they all should have new designs

  • @dragondelsur5156
    @dragondelsur5156 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think there are some changes I'd like to make for Amy's design: For one, I think I would spike up her quills more, not to completely get rid of the bob cut but enough that it keeps enough shape and shows the sharpness, it also makes it easier to justify her being able to curl into a ball.
    As such, I'll give her the same nose as Sonic and some back quills to justify the backless dress because, unless you associate it to sexual deformism, she's the only hedgehog without both design tropes, and she's the only female hedgehog in this series so there's no point for comparison.
    Beyond the backless dress, I want to close down the dress a bit so that her arms don't stay hanging to avoid clipping through her arms, her idle animations always seem to avoid touching the dress because it's not a cloth object, leaving her arms no rest.

  • @caity_strophic
    @caity_strophic ปีที่แล้ว

    8:00 YES!! THANK YOU!! FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICED!! i always hated how knuckles was skinny and didnt hav a big build, cuz you know HES SUPPOSE TO BE STRONG!! i liked his design in sonic boom cuz atleast his big build was emphasised (although sonic team did do knuckles dirty with his personality in sonic boom). love the redesign of knuckles

  • @liliatabacari6697
    @liliatabacari6697 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hello, what are your cool ideas for characters, it's just super, you can next time Shadow, Rouge, Omega, Silver and Blaze. I love these youtubers, I wish you 1000000 subscribers. Good luck.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Those characters have a lot of potential I’ll keep them in mind

  • @FattyFatMatt
    @FattyFatMatt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanna see Eggman, shadow, rouge & cream in this art style they would look cool

  • @treena9930
    @treena9930 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you ever plan on doing the rest of the recurring cast? This was neat and I'd love to see more.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There will definitely be more in the future

  • @tommytsunami420
    @tommytsunami420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really agree with all this and wouldn't mind if the eyes went back to black like the classic days

  • @Waltman13
    @Waltman13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here's my 2 cents:
    Sonic: Personally I'd keep the pointy shoes intact, but other than that, this is perfect.
    Tails: Torso's a bit too chubby, but I like the rest.
    Knuckles: Pretty much my 2nd fav after Sonic. Giving him elements from the movie design was a really smart move as that version does the best job at showcasing his strength.
    Amy: She looks alright, though if I was to suggest one additional thing... give her black shorts underneath the dress. There's a fan comic by HeroOfHeartJillArt that drew Amy in them and I think it makes her look pretty badass ngl. Not to mention it would make all the upskirt shots way less awkward considering that she's 12 (At least according to Heroes. Though whether the ages from that game are still canon is kind of up in the air).

  • @Nerd_Gamer_Buddy
    @Nerd_Gamer_Buddy ปีที่แล้ว

    i really like your designs! whats your favorite sonic character?

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Besides sonic, big has been a personal favorite of mine

  • @trethomas9202
    @trethomas9202 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel that with the redesigns you did for the cast you could mabye make a Sonic youtube series or something of the sort

  • @Thomasfan1725
    @Thomasfan1725 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope to see these in a poster with different backgrounds of places from the sonic games

  • @NinetailsNinetales5TimesFast
    @NinetailsNinetales5TimesFast ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This heavily reminds me of the Team Sonic Racing character reference sheets.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea I was a little inspired by the TSR overdrive animation turnaround sheets glad you caught that

  • @BlazeWolf9511
    @BlazeWolf9511 ปีที่แล้ว

    These design proportions changes we’re definitely a good call. I think knuckles quills feel a little weird but aside from that these designs are solid. I think tails is my favorite of the bunch.

  • @speedboom9392
    @speedboom9392 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly the main renders they use are my favorite versions of these character designs. The problem to me is that the just don’t animate them expressive enough. The art they show often looks stiff too. But I know they can look good. Countless fan art and stuff like the Sonic Unleashed opening/ Night of the werehog prove that. When I think of Sonic, I think of these designs (Minus the shorter limbs and quills as of late. Not a huge fan of that) and I just wished they proved these designs can look incredible because I know they can.

  • @epiclyepicguy
    @epiclyepicguy ปีที่แล้ว

    if you are ever able to, could you do one of these for team dark and/or silver and blaze?