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Lazy discussion on the CFS feild. Im a CFS worker and know that the majority of the work done is necessary and is inaccurately portrayed in the media and unfortunately in this interview. You should find a reasonable child welfare professional and interview them. Its a fascinating feild with its own corruption (like all government bodies), but you need to be careful about blindly agreeing with this man's claims about how these services actually run and why.
@@EssexEx The notion that agencies gain extra income for children being put in care. Funding would increase based on general statistics, but only to provide for the needs of the child. Generally speaking, foster parents make very little money, and protection workers are heavily underpaid for the work they do. There are others regarding the concept of "visitation", the nature of apprehensions, and how workers are trained to interview children. If what this guy says is true about how the children were led on with questioning, that worker should be fired and does not represent how these investigations are conducted.
@@user-gv7jp7lu5x you mentioned that there was a lot of corruption in these agencies. I wouldn't want to approach this in bad faith but isn't it possible that there are explotaitive elements that seek to capitalise on a larger foster care population to make and siphon off funds? I don't mean to make accusations towards the foster parents or the care workers and I don't think Peterson's guest is either. Also are there really no questionnaires that seek to unveil abuse? Not leading but direct questions.
Sat here crying my eyes out. You are telling my story from 1995. I havent seen my daughter's for over 20 years. The lies told about me. Thank you for raising this very painful issue.
I remember watching my father as a kid go threw his divorce in 1998 and losing everything, but I was at the age to choose who I wanted to stay with and I chose my father. We had moved to Texas and started all over again. He helped me become an amazing man.
I would love to know what made you choose your father instead of your mother ? That’s almost unheard of..This was my situation with my son .. with out the marriage ..
@@kennywhateva6279 I had a better relationship with my father then my mother. He was a great teacher and we always found time to go to the movie theater alot when we bonded.
@@danielsantiago8146 my god I live in the movie 🍿 theater with my son to this day… so much so I pay a movie pass by the month.. thank you for sharing that .. I was shocked when my son said to me “ I’m staying here “ with you as his mother moved to another state he was 10 at the time .. still haven’t fully grasped it and it was years ago… thank you for your insight and experience on that .. 🙌🏾
As a 30 year old man, I still have not gotten over the way my mother treated my father throughout and after their divorce proceedings. He's not even my biological father, but I was old enough to choose to live with him, and so I did.
I reported my abusive mother to the social services and police as s child and begged them to put me into Foster care but all they wanted to know was if my step dad abused me.. they did not keep me safe because they didn't believe a woman was capable of abuse and they believed her lies.. my heart goes out to this man
In this world nobody really cares about you except from family, the government absolutely has no compassion for what you're going through, the father is usually the cash cow and they are after the fathers money, it's strictly a money game
Wow! It's so good to have a female become forthcoming about her experience in this fashion, my 10 year old daughter has been dealing with aligations that make it seem that I can't be a good and healthy Parent. Thank you for this.
In regards to Children, Women can be just as abusive as men, as long as they are the physical superior. When it comes to being abusive to those that are their physical superiors, they switch to mental abuse. (I'm not picking on all Women. I'm just saying that the lie of Women's 'Moral Superiority' has enabled horrifying amounts of Trauma like yours to be all but Ignored.)
My God, this makes me so grateful to have the mother I had. My parents never married, and my mom got custody of me. But she never badmouthed my dad, and any time I wanted to see him she would go out of her way to make it happen. She even did such things as going to court to tell the judge that my dad didn't have the ability to pay child support -- as by this time he had three other kids with his wife, who had recently killed herself -- , that we didn't need it, and that they should stop garnering his wages. When the courts inevitably ignored her and my dad's pleas she would send the child support money back to my dad. She's a saint of a woman, and I've never been more grateful for all she's done for me than today.
My whole body starts reacting getting warm and tensed watching this video. It brings back memories of the same thing 10 years ago. I'm an accountant working at a well known financial institution. Being trusting and being lied to is a bad combination. I lost my house, my job, criminal records, jail time, courts, payments, bankruptcy and worst of all the most important thing in my life, my daughter, was taken away. All that time growing up, I wasn't there. I had to sneak in to see her on her school's basketball game. She's over 18 now, but she doesn't know me anymore. I'm still hoping one day she'd realize how much i love her and i'd give my life for her.
Mike God bless you and I hope your daughter will understand and know you love her. You and your daughter will develop a good father-daughter relationship soon! I hope you’ll get a good job to contribute to the society you live in!
At least she's alive. My ex *MURDERE* our son, when I won full custody, after a decade of fighting for him. And, of COURSE, she never saw the inside of a court let alone jail!
Keep trying No Matter how many times the door is slammed in your face. I’ve been their Also. I showed up for everything I could that involved my children. Just showing up goes along way.
I pray for all the fathers, who have been through such horrors. Thank you for your strength and for the love that is left in you. This is truly terrifying.
He speaks of the cartel of the divorce court industry in an age where we consider ourselves intelligent and problem-solvers to have such a non-functioning system has to be intentional it is just another part of the destruction of America in the family unit in the total end of Life As We once knew it we are entering the age of Aquarius the age of transhumanism the end of humanity and the living under full spectrum dominance of the human domain.
All the love I used to have withered, dried up and blew away like dust in the wind, all with the rest of my life. I was blown away in the wind and all that was left to do was to grow a new life and foster a new love within me.
I've been there kinda myself. Mine worked for the community Police department. Where we lived ! She made up lies about me and of course they believed her. The best thing is my kids were older and they knew about the lies. I still lost A LOT of stuff. She made up lies about me...got a restraining order put on me and had me thrown out of the house the next day she made the order....and of course they did it ! Was their corruption from them and her ? Oh hell yeah ! Lost a lot and had to pay a lot.
I was the child that lived through his experience. Only difference was my stepmom pushed my dad to take me away from my mom and I actually didn’t see her for years and had to go through supervised visits where I would tell my mom I wanted to delete myself.
"The only branch of our legal system that doesn't begin with the presumption of innocence." So well said! And oh, they're moving to make this the norm in other aspects of law
You can say there needs to be more through investigation, what is absuluty resonable, necessery (etc.) but that men was even against the investigation. When you can't remove somone for an allged threat to childrens live and can't investigate it what exactly IS that perumption of innocence supposed to be like?
@@catsaresocute650 She has a point. A lot of crazy females threaten the lives of their children and the father cant do anything about. The courts are STACKED against men. Gentlemen. Do. Not. Get. Married!
Watch the movie "Divorce Corp". Quite eye opening documentary. It's a $50B/year industry and judges, courts and States are incentivized to keep it going.
I have been going through this same thing since 2018 with my ex. She lied and said that I threatened to kill her, and I was taken away. Next thing I was sleeping on friends couches and only keeping $426 a month to live in while writing her a check for $1,600 a month on top of her stealing all the money, 56K from our joint account. How was I supposed to find a $300 an hour lawyer when I only had $426 a month to live on.
@@TheDevestatorX Sadly, this is not a fix. More and more prenups are being disregarded by the courts, to the point they are not worth the paper that they are written upon.
This is what feminism has always been about. It was never “equality,” it is about female supremacy, all for the purpose of destabilizing society. Societies only thrive when masculine traits are the driving force, and the people in power want us to be weak
@William women don’t know their place in the world anymore. They are trying to be like men, which is why the perceive “oppression” when there is none. Women were happy in the home
I am Australian. Trained as a social worker over twenty years ago. I work for a not-for-profit. JP is exactly right when he describes how social workers are trained. I am not the creature he's describing, so you can imagine what this makes working with other social workers like for me. I have literally been told by my Team Leader that I won't progress in the organisation because of "my views." I asked him about his own career progression, and he admitted that he's in the same boat. It's as bad as JP describes and only getting worse. I am in the process of training in another field. Unfortunately though this PC cancer has already spread so much that it's actually in the field I'm retraining for . "My views" are pretty much on par with JPs. In other words completely sane and moderate.
From the Australian perspective how similar is our system to the American one they describe? From my small information we are very big on kinship in Australia and taking children from both parents is the absolute last resort? Typically don't we try to keep the children with one parent? Interested on a in perspective?
To be fair to social workers who work with complex families, they are often in a position of having to make decisions with limited information. Social workers are always trained to advocate for the vulnerable, especially children. So if a social worker suspects that a child is at risk, they must act on this. At this point in human history, family violence is gendered, that is, statistically, men are more likely to be violent towards women and children than vice versa. This does cause social workers to err on the side of caution in believing a woman when she speaks about her/her children, being in danger. Social workers who work in child protection and domestic violence get so distressed and disheartened constantly having a front row seat to violence by men against women and children. Unfortunately then, when a truly malicious woman does come along and accuse a man, social workers are inclined to believe her. Two facts are true at the same time; social workers are trained as JP described, AND trained to spot/protect/advocate for the vulnerable. In Australia, a social worker would not be involved in a criminal investigation per se (such as interrogating children). The role would be confined to sourcing and delivering services, such as case management/counselling. And social workers do not run family law systems, they have way less clout than, for example, lawyers and judges. Would I encourage either of my daughters to study social work? No. At the same time, many people who are attracted to the profession, want to make a positive difference and are truly nice people who have been fed a certain ideology. I'm currently studying financial counselling, and would consider volunteering in a women's shelter to help women get back on their feet financially and take really good care of their children. And yes, sigh, financial counselling is full of far left ideology.
i had 2 friends who are social workers. one is a normal christian woman who serves the people. the other probably went into the field bc she needed help herself. she was very distrustful in her friendships and other relationships. i supported her thru many difficulties and when i got sick, she questioned my faith . when i reacted badly she refused to speak to me again. i don't know how she could help anyone else.
@Zealadinn me and /other guys lives have been ruwand/messed up and or died from it and i had male coworker's die as well so this can kill and or she can get off kill him slowly or by gun and quickly and messy
Whoever says "Believe all women" has no idea how malevolent women can get once they choose the path of distruction. Although I am a combat veteran, going through divorse was by far the worst thing that has happened to me. The only reason i didn''t end myself was because I didn't want my kids to be left alone to be ruined by their poisonous mother. Thank you for this episode!
I've heard horrific stories from my bosses, it makes me want to never get married, and its sad because i want that life, wife, and kids and it's such a deterrent
I am so sorry for your pain. Please know that there are women who see the poisonous effects of this ideology and are ashamed to share XX chromosomes with these harridans. I liken this to fake hate crimes. No punishment is enough.
"The only reason i didn''t end myself was because I didn't want my kids to be left alone to be ruined by their poisonous mother. " Glad you are still with us brother.
I divorced my husband of over 20 years 5 years ago. As a woman, my lawyer actually tried to suggest that I tell the court that my husband was a terrible father. I flat refused and found a different attorney. Not all women that file want to ruin their husbands. I pray for all the father’s that have gone through what you have gone through
You are a rarity. Thank you. I only wish more women were capable of being honest when that is the case. I do realize it’s not always the case but you clearly are letting us know that there are women out there like you.
Respect to you for what you stood up for but frankly, praying is not nearly enough.....getting out on the street with bloody huge banners exposing this bullcrap system is the closest thing to a beginning. By the way, almost 3 years now since I have had an un-biased conversation with my daughter. For the record I petitioned my ex...why?...she attempted to make me homeless behind my daughter's back. Well, she was spanked for that. I would do the same again. Nothing I did was illegal. She was the one who used manipulation tactics, lied and was deceitful. I have legal proof of this whole debarcle. My daughter passed by me on my local city street and because of bad Police work, I can no longer approach her in order not to break laws. So, in effect, my country's Police force has stolen my love from my daughter whilst colluding with my dishonest wife.................. JUSTIFY THIS PLEASE....like I said, PRAYING ISN'T NEARLY ENOUGH when it comes to manipulation/dishonesty. Women are either on men's side or they are not. I AM ON HONEST WOMEN'S SIDES. If you have my back, expect me to be at your side..because that is where I will happily be. You have my word on that...FACT...that is all I deal in..that and honesty.
@@kylehahn1654 rarity? thats funny... if people like her cant hold up a marriage they never should have done so in the first place. In good times and ba.... nvm byebye
I went through all of this. I am a Gulf War Vet, 100% disabled from PTSD and going through the system was 100 times worse than anything I went through in the Gulf. I still break down sobbing when I recall our first supervised visit with our kids after they were taken because our house was a mess. Only 5 of our 9 kids showed up and they had no idea why they had been taken. The 3 year old thought he was going home with us afterwards. I wanted so badly to just take him and go anywhere with him. Every visit was the same. Tearful hugs to start the visit, playing and laughing and singing for an hour and a half and a half hour of 11 people sobbing uncontrollably because we knew it was almost over. Some of the observers would tell us we weren't allowed to cry because it was hurting the kids. A few of them actually read the case files and/or asked us why we were there. Eventually the ones that actually wanted to help children would be in tears at the end of every visit along with the rest of us. My wife is now paranoid and doesn't trust anyone including me. It completely ruined a very happy, loving and beautiful family for financial gain by the state. I need to write a book about it but it's so hard to even think about it.
Keep a journal of your pain and experience without the intention to publish but a document of truth memoir with answers that they will want when you are not around. Stay strong.
Terrence Popp’s channel is good for divorce and vets. I should just say “vets” since the divorce rate is nearly 100% according to him. Very off color humor, but it helps.
This hit hard. I'm a child of (multiple...) divorces. My mother tried turning me against my biological father for more than 10 years. I now have cut her out of my life and have a decent relationship with my father. I can't imagine how he felt that whole time.
Its not just him as you must have lived your own nightmare and your father knows that and is part reason it hurts so much. Hopefully you can go on and meet someone who is not like that as not all women are bad just like all men are not bad and you can have a family your father can enjoy with you.
What were some of your mothers methods ? How did you step-parent(a) treat you? Did your mother divorce multiple times ? Did she try to destroy the men in other relationships?
Happy to reply to this................... NO YOU CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT HE WENT THROUGH.....I can tell you. 1. Two to three years of trauma. 2. Complete lack of belief in court systems. 3. Complete lack of belief in the word HONESTY coming out of any woman's mouth or mind. 4. Complete lack of faith in Religion. 5. Complete lack of faith in ever beginning to re-bond to a daughter/son(LOST CHILDREN). 6. As there is a pattern developing here...complete lack in pretty much everything in life and the meaning and purpose of it. 7. Daily losing HOPE...and pretty much not a day goes by when you don't think of your child....and your undying love for them. Hope this helps....and my daughter reads this one fine day.
Dr. Peterson: I owe Cathy Newman a debt for interviewing you. You were amazing. I had never heard anyone cut through leftist bs like you did. I then found you on TH-cam. I watched hundreds of hours of lectures- some multiple times. I read your books. Maps of Meaning, Twelve Rules fir Life and your last 12 more rules. For me the first 12 rules book and Maps of Meaning were deeply meaningful. Your last would have been as powerful as your first two but I had lots of background by the time it came out thanks to your channel, your podcasts etc. Your Biblical series revolutionized my view of the sacred. I am 62, married for 36 years with one Son (almost 30years old) and retired. You changed my life for the better in many ways all for the better. You have been tortured by the left for years. Regardless, they have not kept me and millions of others from finding you and studying your works and watching your lectures. God bless you and your family and friends.
As a disenfranchised father, and victim of similar divorce graping, I am deeply grateful to you, for addressing this particular social injustice. It doesn’t get addressed enough. The family court system is destroying father’s, and their children’s lives. Some of the damage my wife, in collaboration with the family courts, has done to my children, me and my relationship with my children is irreparable. Men will continue to avoid marriage as long as the laws remain the same. Listening to this reawakened the PTSD I still have from this experience. But it was also very cathartic.
Right there with you mate. We all need to speak up about this or it will never get fixed. For me, the tears haven't stopped but I need to know I'm not alone.
I hope you find some solice after your experiences. It's tough. All of it is. To watch children's lives be damaged but also to watch good father's have everything stripped from them. I've had some bad experience with our INjustice system. I'm glad I didn't have kids yet because it would have been even more devastating. Good luck to you and stay strong. Even bad things often ripple into purposeful outcomes.
Having spent two years in family court after my ex accused me of abusing our kids, while they mentally collapsed under her care, I can say without hesitation that family court cares very little for truth and the welfare of children. Its a nightmare beyond the words of men to define.
Quote from the judge in my case . I am sure you are kind and loving father. But due to your wife's unreasonable behaviour I cannot make a joint custody order work. I grant her full custody care & control. SO WHY EVEN TRY...?
Think on that last sentence, "It's a nightmare beyond the words of men to define" in the knowledge that men are the greatest adepts of the language. What we see happening in the gender war is founded on an instinct far older than our ability to speak.
@@ChocoMisomom I dont know how, it's easy to see the imbalance. I think the only reason u care because it effects the finances of your husband which ultimately effects u. Im not saying u are a bad person but most women ignore the plight of men until it effects them.
I'm a mother to an amazing 3 year old. Her dad adores her and I cannot imagine what kind of incentive would make me hurt her by separating her from her father. She needs him to grow up a confident and self secure woman. I would never do this to her. It's so sad the hear that this is happening.
I can answer the question you pose. Women apparently are more vulnerable than men are to becoming involved in some received concept of social reality or social truth and then becoming convinced of the reality of the past facts that would make the social concept seem valid when no events in fact occurred. In the case of the story in this video, the wife apparently became convinced that the intervention of the law was required under the term of some social template. She then, when told that certain events had to take place in order for there to be a legal intervention, therefore almost instantaneously started to believe that certain facts were true that were not. What I am describing is delusion, not willful lying. Men may lie or they may hold opinions about their own past that are not very supportable, but they do not generally develop a belief that things have occurred that have not. Men may conform to some received social template but they do not make up facts. They just keep their mouths shut and go along. If they develop anger, they either internalize it and express it in self-destructive behavior, develop simple depression or they act out violently or at least delinquently. They do not invent facts that make the causes of their discomfort simply disappear. None of this applies to you, but you seemed to want to know what makes a woman do these kinds of things. My answer is, unless she is an outright sociopath, either mental illness (likely manic depression or schizophrenia) or a problem with her character structure leading to extreme insecurities. All my opinion, of course. Other people might have different opinions.
I really loved this show. I thought I was the only one going through this in 1992. My son is thirty and we're closer than ever. Please don't give up or lose hope because the children will mature and learn the truth. Keep in mind everyone stated to me, "What did you do to her.". I'll assume mothers and women are never at fault. I love you too.
We all do when we grow up but then we are filled with such bitterness we don't want to see them not even want to be with a woman who we think may one day turn out like these vicious women 😡
Thank you for talking about this. Im so grateful that Jordan is alive and well. We need him during these times of government overreach. Not many people have the courage that he has
Idk was the wife on chemical birth control? Was she before marriage? It kills libido..and she had mental issues. And a system that encouraged her behavior. Feminism for legit equality is good..modern feminism as a political ideology..can be greedy and shady
It drives me insane when people say "We need JBP now more than ever" because he has done everything in his power to bestow his knowledge & understanding to us over the last 10 years. He has more footage uploaded to youtube than Mr. Beast. He has podcasts, lectures, & discussions like the one in this video. He has given us all the tools necessary to pass the torch to us in the fight for freedom. We dont need him now more than ever, he needs us now more than ever. We understand his principles, we need to apply them ourselves. He is getting old, & he cant keep this up forever. We need to do exactly what JBP has been saying forever, take personal responsibility for our own problems. Though I hope he can keep this up for a long time to come, one day he will be gone. & we need to "follow the path laid out for us" so to speak. He has given us so much knowledge, its time we apply it ourselves.
As a recently divorced father of two, myself a witness of anti-male bias in the law & courts here in Canada, estranged from my son & daughter, losing my career ... I had to stop watching 30 minutes in. Too familiar, too powerful, and so fiendishly awful. The fact that men like us survive this phenomenon is a testament to the power of self-acceptance and 're-learning' to live.
So much of what he said resonated with me, I went through a divorce 11 years ago and it was hell. I wanted to die. I prayed everyday for strength. God whispered to me to hang on, life would be good again... life is very good now. I made it, praise God.
These men are so wronged. No wonder the once most important vestige of democratic healthy society the family is in a rapid downfall. Sad state, but who’s to blame? The narcissist you’ve married or decided to get entangled with? The (in)justice system without checks or breaks?
Thank you for this discussion - As an adult woman I have often thought about my parents divorce - and I knew my father was being devastated and - as a child could do nothing about it. Our close father/daughter relationship was attacked and finally shattered. A terrible, terrible loss
@@amin151dmg so? Doesn’t mean she wouldn’t want to get married herself. Hell, I’ve seen guys who go through the worst divorces possible and still get married again.
i entered law enforcement in 1993 and served as a police officer for 9 years. At that time there was a huge movement underway by women's lobbying groups ("Sister Care") to recast the burden of proof in domestic violence cases so that officers would be required to arrest accused men when responding to alleged cases of domestic violence. several years later I became a lawyer and learned about the incredible swing the family court system beginning in the mid 70s to currently favor women in the way it does now. when i practiced family law i always told male clients that you WILL be accused of physical violence, and there is a good chance you will be accused of harming your children as well. the family court system has been intentionally broken and made into a punitive political tool for what we now know to be social justice reasons. the child protective services involved are absolutely full of far-left crusaders who have no compunctions about steering these sorts of proceedings.
Yeah, I was attacked by my severely intoxicated wife, and i was arrested. I was charged with a felony domestic assault, with zero evidence, that cost me over $10,000 dollars in attorney's fees. Six months later I was "no billed" by a grand jury at the request of the DA (in my state, those charges cannot be dropped, must go before a grand jury, unlike killing another human being). No consequences for the people who victimized me.
@@Mick762 sorry that happened but not surprised in the lease. i have seen many, many men accused of such things on little or no evidence and there is always a parade of crusaders ready to lead the lynch mob.
happened to me. and there’s no accountability for perjury at the level of divorce court. i’m still trying to recover emotionally and financially. thank you for speaking up.
This brought back terrible emotions I have suppressed for years now. I am now a stranger to my children. I had to chose between fighting a fight I can't win and losing my mind. I fought and lost and nearly lost my mind. I cried in the courtroom like a child. I hope and pray when my children are old enough they will know the truth and hopefully understand why I was not in their lives. This system is broken and must be fix because the repercussions will be dire to the next generation.
It already is…50% of ALL marriages in divorce. Children of divorce parents are THREE times more likely to end up divorced themselves. The cycle continues until people stop getting married altogether. That is also hapening. Birth rates world wide are down as are populations.
Happened to one friend of mine. His ex lied and claimed he'd molested his daughters. They believed he had abandoned them, and didn't learn the truth until they turned 18 and could contact him without her approval. They don't talk to their mother anymore.
Same I had a friend who's ex wife got full custody and visits stopped because she said he had worn a bathrobe in front of their daughter....one look at his ex would tell you something was not right with her. He never got to see his daughter after that, he is one of the nicest, most placid men I have ever met .
@@postitnote7716 I think that was the issue. Women secretly must hate nice men. Seems to be a higher proportion of them getting grinded through the family courts.
I went through the same thing. I left my son's mother and she filed false reports of domestic abuse. She also made several false reports to the Child Abuse Hotline. I was arrested and was looking at a 15 year felony prison sentence all based on lies. I was under house arrest and had to wear GPS ankle monitor for over 9 months. I had video evidence that proved my innocence, even so, the prosecting attorney refused to drop the charges after receiving the video footage. There was zero evidence I committed a crime. Men have no due process for domestic abuse charges. You are guilty until proven innocent or found more guilty. Her entire bases for the false allegations was thinking she'd get full custody of our son. The state I live in is 50/50 by default. She wanted to cut me out of my son's life so she could keep him all to herself.
@142 That's victim blaming. The system is simply corrupted. It never happens the othet way around that people can make these sort of excuses. Toxic women are being excused for their behavior. They can engage in toxicity because even when being proven wrong, there are no consequences.
@@Alnivol666 third wave feminism and the Duluth model for domestic violence has a lot to do with the way the system is rigged against men. In a nut shell with the Duluth model, women are victims no matter what. Men are automatically guilty of domestic violence and if a women commits domestic violence against a man...he had it coming and shes seen as a victim. No equality in how a woman is treated in the justice system. Women get a slap on the wrist, or no slap on the wrist, and men get pummeled to death.
This reminds me of what Judge Judy always told feuding parents, "you have to love your child MORE than you hate each other," and that always stuck with me cause it angered her to see mothers take kids away from their fathers just cause they were upset.
Very true, thing is most of these men who choose divorce obviously do not love their children more than they love themselves. Same goes for women that are choosing divorce. Neither loves their children more than themselves, if they did they wouldn’t be getting divorced, outside of TRUE abuse.
I had a similar experience in Australia 22 years ago. My sons were 4 and 3 at the time. She started another relationship, wanted out of ours and her and her mother were hellbent on destroying me. After being completely sold out by the Family Court Lawyers & System, I was able to restore my parental rights by getting family law advice from a disbarred lawyer and then successfully represent myself in Family Court 3 years later. My sons are 26 & 25 now. We have been very close ever since 2003, I have financially recovered and never remarried
Good for you bro. Here in the Middle East we have not reached that far. But recently the law has changed. Women can get divorce relatively easier than before, as we are still governed by sharia law of some sort. The law is on the side of the children. Kids can be given the choice of where they want to live if they are above 11. But we are required to go to family counseling before pulling the plug. But surely 10 years ago was much better.
When I was 2 and my brother was 5 my Dad told my Mom that he didn’t want to be married anymore. She begged him to stay in the marriage. She was young and terrified of being left alone with two small kids to raise. But he packed up her car and sent us on our way. He was an alcoholic and I guess wanted the freedom to drink and party. But whenever he wanted to see us my mom would make sure it happened. He finally got sober when I was 17. He’s spent everyday since then being in my life in the most important ways. He’s an amazing grandfather and has helped many people in AA. Im so grateful that my mom never tried to keep us from seeing him. She never demonized him or tried to use our relationship for revenge. I’ve thanked her many times for being so selfless. Her view was that even though he was a terrible husband, he is our father and we deserve to have a relationship. My father is now 81, dying from cancer, and I’m just so blessed to have these last 30 years together. Turns out his father was an alcoholic and abandoned him when he was young. I’m thankful my Dad gets to live his final days knowing he broke the cycle and was able to right some wrongs. And I’m thankful my Mom gave him that chance.
Having been almost totally let down by the courts I gave up because I couldn't stand the strain. I'm 66 years now, I no longer have contact with my three children. They are strangers. I still pay child maintenance, but I'm alive. The divorce was my choice; I divorced her for her adultery (which her sister informed me of), but she won everything. I was advised not to challenge for custody as it was a waste of time. I did challenge, and it was a waste of time. The tears I shed. I am bitter, who would not be?
I endured a very similar set of circumstances, friend -- an insane divorce in '09-'12 with similar results. I am so sorry to hear that you are estranged from your children. My heart aches for you there. I emerged from that season of my life completely ruined and destitute on EVERY level. I have 4 kids, estranged from 3. They are now all adults. Fortunately, I have an amazing relationship with my youngest child and only daughter, who saw thru all the lies and B.S. and stood by her Daddy throughout the years and years of absolute hell. That literally kept me alive, so all I can say to you -- from one survivor to another -- is how much I admire your warrior's tenacity in the face of such incredible adversity and suffering. May God bestow his healing mercy on you and pour out His blessings on you in radical and unexpected ways.
What worked for me was surrounded myself with men and women who gave a damn about their world's. I personally found them in two places. 1. Landmark Education 2. The Sterling's Men's Institute It was a journey but now my world makes sense and my relationships work. I've been away from both for at least 12 years but there's not a day that goes by that I don't appreciate what beauty has come from what I experienced and learned. That's my best to you good sir. Be blessed man and never give up on what you love. You still have time to make great things happen. Take a deep breath and know people out there need to hear your wisdom and you need to hear there's, and that's what a great life is. Go live it. I'm standing with you and for you. I'm only pissed I got Covid and missed my fully paid for trip this week to Iceland to see the live volcano. So I'm coughing and cheering you on from my cozy home in a little village in southern Deutschland. Anyway, thanks for distracting me with your authentic words. Forget about the lawyers invest in your character and understanding and watch how your world changes just because you stop getting in your own way. For God's sakes your listening to Dr. Peterson that means there's something brilliant inside you your kids need to know. For starters, write them letters. Don't worry about sending them, just writing them will begin something endlessly productive with where you want to go and who you want to be when you get there. Ok I'm gonna go now and huk-up my Omicron filled lungs in the bathroom. Oh yeah, I should take Vitamin D too. ✨👍🏼✨ Be well!
I was this kid, stuck in a messy custody battle with an mentally unstable mother and a determined and loving and noble father. Only because my unhinged mom threatened the judge did my dad get custody. I suffered permanent emotional trauma over it. God help these kids, life is gonna be hard even after the events pass. So few understand. 💔
My mom accused my father of domestic abuse, while I was away at college. Each accusation could be verified my me or one of my brothers are gross misrepresentation. She has since changed her mind, only after two years it was apparent that both her and my dad would end up destitute. In a large way I will never trust her again and her character will always be tainted by a stain of malevolence in the eyes of my brothers and I.
Plz help me to understand what and how and why all this happened to u? The same thing happened to me I don’t use drugs or alcohol. I got custody of my daughter and her mom told off the judge also she only showed up to court 4 times as I had to deal with the court for a year my daughter is happy and has everything she needs ! So plz let me know ? I’m a great father but if I can understand u many I can help my daughter she’s 7
In 8 hours since this has been published, 2000 random people have shared their stories. Nearly identical in impact. Thank you, JBP, for talking about this and having the courage to pursue this topic.
I went through a much less serious "march to insanity" some 20 years ago. The bad memories have mostly faded. It was a battle royal for 5 years. I applaud this man's efforts to expose and reform the system. I did nothing wrong and was accused of everything, you name it. And many believed it. Then years later during a nice conversation my youngest daughter told me that they (my ex, her attorney, the child mediator, the court assigned psychologist for her, the DA's office) that I really did not love her or want her as they attempted to poison her mind and cut off communication between us. I suddenly realized how loved I was and how important that was and if I did anything wrong it was that I should have told her out loud more often how much I loved her. I was overcome by emotion. Moving forward I was sure to tell her how much she means to me and how much I love her. I have grandchildren and a wonderful life now but it all hung in the balance. Guys I suggest you reinforce with your kids always how much you love them and tell them. Because after all the false allegations, the money settlements, the mistreatment you get ... they may suffer more than you think if this happens to them. God bless guys if this happens to you keep your cool, learn the system, and fight like hell. The most amazing thing about this video is that these two incredible men covered so much truth in a little over an hour.
This happened to me, at 30 years old I lost my children my business my home and had very little left of my life once my ex-wife was done making up allegations slapping me with the restraining order. And I never knew it was coming. Thank God that the truth did come out and she was convicted on 37 counts of prescription drug fraud.. which she says is why she did what she did because she was scared I would leave her when I found out. So she destroyed my entire life and everything I had ever worked for and my relationship with my children. Because you see even after she was convicted and admitted to all of this stuff she still kept on the brainwashing of my children every time I would pick my children up she would call the cops cause them mental anguish rain wash them at 2 and 4 years old to the point where I have had no relationship with my children since they were 8 years old even though I have never changed my number in 20 years so that my children can find me.... It nearly destroyed me. And I pray daily for any man who is going through this absolute destructive abuse put on by the system of corruption in this country..the answer in family law is to go after the man no matter what and destroy him.. it's wrong!
This may sound weird, but I have found recently that if I imagine myself on a cross next to Jesus it helps me endure the suffering that the evil doers have afflicted upon me,, bringing me closer in relation to God. These people can’t outrun the truths the set in stone. They aren’t getting away with anything if we forgive them and live in content knowing we aren’t alone in this ultimate injustice.
I'm so sorry brother you had to go through this, I can't imagine the pain you've endured. Be strong there is still a chance for your children to develop a good relationship with you. Give it time and keep being the loving, responsible man that you are. God bless you and your family!
My ex wife left a day after I came home after being in hospital 6 months fighting for my life and justified her behaviour by saying she thought I'd get her to seek treatment for the eating disorder she'd been pursuing whilst I was away. This was 2 yrs after I'd been arrested after she claimed abuse (no evidence, charge dropped) and she claimed she didn't realise what would happen (it was revenge because I separated from her due to her bad behaviour but then took her back, like the fool I was). My point is, women justify their bad behaviour by saying they have a mental health problem as an excuse for ruining your life and your children's life. She still put herself ahead of your marriage, same as my ex. I don't buy it anymore. Ed. When I write this out (only part of the story) I realise how crazy was her thinking and behaviour.
@@Joe-nf2sz I'm sorry you went through that my friend. I'm sure it has changed your outlook on the world. This is the Era where men are better off going their own way without women. God bless you and yours.
I was raked over the Family Court coals by a kidnapping maker of false accusations. I studied law, defended myself and my children vigorously and finally got myself and my children free. It took every ounce of strength in me plus an actual miracle. But it finally ended. Ten years later I feel I'm just about to recover emotionally.
I told a family court cop about family court as an extension of the welfare state and he laughed. I asked him, after his 12 years there, had he ever seen someone happy to be at family court, and if the line at the armored guarded Xray machines at the entrance had ever gotten smaller. He walked away silent and shaking his head angrily. That was after 2 other cops had tried to come up behind me. That is a bad place.
I watched my little brother go through this. It took a toll on our family for many years. Unfortunately my brother took his own life due to the situation he had been put in.
Sorry for your loss. I’ve heard too many horror stories from divorce courts and how vindictive wives can be to place my life at the mercy of the altar of marriage.
@@What11235 I assume that moment will be when she meets the next best opportunity who comes up. Then all of a sudden it’ll be “I haven’t been happy for a long time and I’m not sure I ever loved you”. It’s almost like they come preprogrammed for betrayal.
I’ve contemplated it but I refuse to make my mom and family suffer. My life has literally been ruined financially emotionally and physically due to stress. Stay strong and I am sorry for your loss
That's how they win. If you're suicidal, forget the rules. If you are going to die anyway, go force your way into your representatives office and tell them off for how horrible the system is. Arrest means nothing compared to death; you have nothing to lose. Go do something crazy (because it isn't actually crazy).
Same scenario for me, once the lawyer got hold of her I was doomed. Her performance in court could have won an oscar. The judge bought it. My son was twelve and is now thirty-eight with a wife who is bitter with me also. There are three grandkids I've never seen and have no contact or communication with my son, none. You learn not to go crazy carrying it with you, the pain is always there though. I actually think my son is traumatized to the point that he desperately needs counseling, he loved me as a little kid, and I never stop.
My thoughts are with you man. For something for genuinely wants to meet a woman and start a family this is terrifies me. Tho I dont think i will ever get in a relationship since im not what any women want apparently. I hope you are going better man.
Just use the 2 year rule regarding relationships. If you date one another for at least two years, all phases of one's personality comes around. For me I was young and ignored the red flags, believe me when I say, they were there.
Google a dude called CHILDRESS who deals with Parental Alienators....he has worked out that it is not a complicated fix....it just takes swapping the nasty manipulative parent over with the innocent manipulated parent and hugs from the parent who was manipulated and the child's recovery begins to build. Hope this helps somehow.
This all happened to me 10 yrs ago and lasted 5yrs...She ruined my life and I'm left emotionally, financially and spiritually damaged now! The lies and cruel treatment I suffered at the corrupt system and a cruel woman left me broken! She claimed abuse and violence to be entitled to legal aid!!! I had no warning I was assumed guilty and treated as an offender... I Havnt seen my son for 5yrs now... My heart is broken and unsure will ever feel whole again
Jordan, This is has been the most difficult of all of your videos to watch and you've had some that hit the mark. I have just recovered from 30 years of anxiety having lost contact with my kids for 6 years, DL 3 times, passport 2 times and an immune system collapse. If not for my faith I would not be writing this. God Bless
@@bookofeli4867 really? Yes God is good. The few things or should I say the many things were/are lessons I needed to learn. Third Wave Feminisms included the idea that men were no longer needed in the family and served the purpose of little more than sperm donors. There were also financial benefits never mind no fault divorce and the idea that it was time for women to act more like men. This also including the promotion of infidelity and a societal effort to break down the family.
Grateful for this conversation. As a man still trapped in this now at a decade of abuse, lies and manipulations. My message to anyone going through this is work on YOU. Become the best person you can be. Don’t give into the abuse and “legal mafia” thumbing you down. Do the right things learn the laws in your area and spend whatever time you have no matter how little with your child/children wisely. Focus on enjoying yourself and being yourself with them. My son is now 11 and is slowly seeing through his mothers evil lies and games. It has been horrific to go through this and I know many out there are still trapped in the hell this inflicts on our minds. The only way out is through my friends. Good luck and keep growing stronger!
Love this message! I've been divorced for nearly 20 years and the vilification hasn't stopped, but the kids know who's telling the truth and who isn't. They'd walk through fire for me but know I wouldn't let them. Much respect!
You are doing so right. I understand that you do not to talk badly about his mother to your son, which is vital, as he has half of his genes from her. Tell him often that every child has the right to love both his parents. Tell him that you are upset about the divorce, but not about him liking his mother, and that you regret what has happened since and that you couldn't stop it, but that he has no fault in the process. Tell him that you love and miss him every day around the clock and that you are working on good relationships. You are determined to do all you can to help him have a happy life and a bright future. You firmly believe that he will be doing great in life, try to trust that he is a resourceful growing person, and you are, too. Let your friends and family help you, to make holidays and celebrations nice and even fun. Have faith, the truth will become visible. Remember that few other relations can become so infected as that between spouses, exes, lovers. Use every conceivable remedy to help yourself bring more harmony into your own life and your son's, too. Show your son that there are lovable women in your life, whom you trust and like - he needs to see that. You obviously can handle this, I only said these things as affirmations and experiences from my own overcoming an ugly divorce and the lowest point in my life, and I didn't even want the divorce. I got strength from the thought that even in adversity I was the role-model for how to handle life-events and relationships, with responsibility and perseverance. Be a father he can admire as much as you can. All the best!
Tried that, then my mother, the group homeowner, and my sister-in-law decided that they were gaslighting me from my daughter when I found out some information. But you are right, any separation of the family should go 50/50 and that's what we did, until others wanted in on controlling the narrative.
Coach Coty: Thanks for your support and advice. What would you suggest :if you have got too exhausted-sick from decades sleeplessness to do further research, when there seems to not be legal advice in Sweden online, when you have a serious disease and Aspergers disability, when taken your home, rights and money, when not being able to get a job(probably) and needing a platform first, when not given psycho-therapy, real support or counselling, when not having close friends, loyal family (fearfully mistrusting but loving) or partner? Do your friends know enough to be able to support you?Or can you take time-out from grief, fear, anger and stress to actually have fun? I need to have fun, but only want to save my life. Which is a Sisyphos-task, since I am not able to solve problems without calmness, facts and honesty from them,. I get so disrupted by the presumptions, prejudices and tepidity of others, and from the constant confusion instilled by false promises of help that then turn out to be fake, a waste of my dwindling resources and soul substance( my brain substance as well, for sure). My hopelessness and self-destruction now comes from the fact that I seem chanceless, having been in dire straits already before this final catastrophe. If I had my health and energy, and money, and self-confidence before, that would have posed a good buffer to draw from in bad times. But without hat? Do you have advice for my situation, too? I should be most glad and grateful. I am so glad for you having friends and self-confidence enough to enjoy yourself.
@@Medietos sometimes taking care of you starts with rest. Start with controlling what YOU can control. Get as much sleep as you can to allow your mind to heal. Think objectively about your self and your situation. Work on your nutrition, meditation, prayer, light exercise are all great places to start in healing the wounds of the mind and soul. I know how low this can bring you I was suicidal more than once over the years. The “gaslighting” is so so hard to handle. Know you are not alone. There are many of us around the world. The lies and manipulations literally bring you to question yourself. What I can say for sure is if you find the courage to go forward. To listen to the truth within you and to take the time to work on you. I promise there are better days down the road. As tough as it is to hear the only way out is through! I recommend 2 books to everyone. #1 The four agreements by don miguel Ruiz I practice the agreements every single day. I believe the audio is free here on TH-cam. I also recommend the Bible. Gods words are truth whether your a believer or not the wisdom within the book is transforming. For me the combination of practicing the four agreements, following gods word. And the undying will to provide for my family have pushed me to where I am today. If I can do it, with all the mistakes, sins and never ending gaslighting I know any of you can too. -with love, Coty
What happened to this man is unfortunately the rule rather than the exception. It happened to my father in 1992. I was 9 or 10 and was smart enough to recognize what was going on. I chose to live with my dad, and it was the best decision I ever made, and probably ever will make. We're close to this day and I cannot imagine how much different my discipline, confidence, intelligence, character, would be if he wasn't around. To all the fathers out there, if you tried but failed to see your children, forgive yourself. It isn't your fault, believe that. - Sons.
As a therapist there's a reason why I decided against going into social work. I've never seen so many self-righteous social workers in my entire working life!
The few I interacted with were truly indoctrinated idiots, with a GCSE in social work and a chip on their shoulder. They believed that their job was to win cases, even if it meant lying in court. And had little to no interest in the happiness and wellbeing of a particular child.
My divorce left me homeless, living out of my car for one year, while I was paying child support, alimony and paying off debt. No one cared for my health.
This conversation has been going on for a long time. But mainstream media aided by woke algorithms dismiss it as MRA/Incel/Red Pill/etc nonsense. Peterson and Greg are shouting into the void. I wish these issues would be taken seriously, and I think it is at a very glacial pace as more such false accusations come to light. The woke left are exposing and cannibalizing itself one tiny bite at a time.
Stay strong Greg. I am a son of divorce and parental alienation and brainwashing, but with time and through adult conversations with your grown sons your relationship can be renewed. I love my father and am so grateful for him.
An incredibly important topic that has damaged millions of families throughout the world. I have personally experienced the dysfunctional, bureaucratic and toxic Provincial court system in Canada for going on 12 years and it is deeply disturbing to see how many holes, reckless and careless behaviour of not only the courts but family lawyers as well. Reform is beyond past due.
Being through all this myself, not seeing my son (13yo now) since May 2013, all thanks to the same monstrous practices held by the Argentine family court system. I wept several times listening to Greg’s story. I personally gave up, moved on and away. My salute and hug goes to each and every man sharing his grief in this comments.
@@bookofeli4867 She has a history of abuse from father and brothers, also a ‘culture’ of cheating that I naively thought would not repeat while with me. When cornered in her actions, she found false domestic violence accusations would effectively wipe me from the household, and worked 🤷🏻♂️ Of course I kept and keep paying child support, but she went beyond and claimed for damages and all my assets are in danger. I decided to move to another country and start over.
@@patodm The end is in sight for all Western nations that have abandoned religious traditions & embraced feminism & other inversions. We're close to the point that the only solution is complete annihilation & rebirth from the ashes.
As a woman, wife and mother, my heart goes out to all the fathers wanting to have a close relationship with their children and not being able to see them. I feel heartbroken. Praying for restored families and parents putting their pride aside and kids needs first.
@@ramonamelnichuk8277 In what way is he being rude? This is precisely why I don't have much hope for women in general. They're hypersensitive to statements that are apparently rude.
@@brazwen to tell me „don’t pray“ - I’m a believer so that’s rude. I’m not sitting here crying about it but my husband thought it was rude too and he’s a man. I hope you guys meet some women that will change your mind about them. My husband has struggled with depression and emotional childhood traumas and I’ve been his safe place, the one who always believes and supports him. Wishing you guys all the best for the future.
What I learn from this episode, in form of an analogy: 1. Instead of having an ideal negotiation, where A and B come to the table and say "Let's talk"; 2. The Family Court System has become where at the table, A has a gun pointing at B's head and say "Give me"; 3. The Issue is NOT whether A has pulled the trigger (i.e., ruining B's life); the Issue is that A has the option to do so in the first place; 3.5 Out of 100 simulations, some versions of A may not pull the trigger. But, EVERY version of A can; 4. A default (somewhat) good-faith negotiation has turned into a default hostage negotiation.
That is not an analogy unless your goal is the world's longest phrasing of the analogy "a negotiation is like a firearm" -- which is not what I think you meant to say.
Married high school sweetheart. 35 years danced around her so called PMS, Depression, Anxiety, SADs and PTSD from her childhood. Finally, after 3 marriage counselors and my getting own psychologist thinking it must be me, she filed for divorce in 2016. Took me another two years 2018, in a college parking lot prior to entering the library sat in my car and googled, "What's a person that's Entitled, Manipulating, Controlling, Never Wrong, etc.......... Pow, Melanie Tonya Evans channel popped up. I clicked on play and less than 2 minutes into video, began bawling my eyes out finally realizing what I've been struggling with all my life - Covert Narcissistic Personality Disorder. It saved my life. Still in recovery.
There's way better channels than hers that's one of the save the women channels where they blame men she's not a good one for men to research narcissistic resistance is a good one too you'll like that one he talks about the baby boomers and practically their whole generation or narcissistic I married a narcissistic woman because that's what I had for a mother which is also common I had a baby boomer mother who was a piece of s***
Mr. Peterson as a Grandmother I thank you for addressing this immensely important subject The devastation caused by this flawed morally corrupt system needs exposure and overhaul . As a woman I am sickened how overehemingly biased family courts are in their favouritism towards Mother's . It's no wonder many Father's are absent from their children's lives. I always assumed wrongly this was voluntary, now I know its not the case having seen my son forced to navigate this nightmarish system. It is heartbreaking injustice that forces them to leave. Their plight is futile so they have no choice but to lose and face a lifetime of agonizing grief . This must change because lawyer's and Mother's seem to be the only profiteers . As you so rightly said the respondent receives zero justice causing immeasurable mental anguish. Mr. Ellis and you described how often this overwhelming profound powerlessness drives men to the very edge in excruciating despair. How is this helpful to society ? Tragically at the center of all cases the most important issue gets completely lost, our precious children Their welfare somehow gets swallowed up and completely overlooked as theatrics of legalities ensues clocking up costs adding enormous strain . It is the children who ultimately pay the heaviest price as they also grieve. I hope you'll revisit this human tragedy which desperately needs championing. Fathers should have the same automatic respect and rights as Mother's in family courts, unless proven otherwise. 50 / 50 access should automatically be given . No Father or child should be penalized for the disintegration of a relationship. Society would benefit from this. The system should adopt a child's philosophy who invariably love both their parents equally. Why in these times of demanding social appreciation are men treated so poorly and face discrimination within the legal system. This is a gross and an unacceptable miscarriage of justice . Thank you again and to Mr. Ellis for writing his book which must have been incredibly difficult to do . The afformation in this interview offers a faint glimmer of hope in an otherwise dark abyss. Best wishes to you both.
You seem like an intelligent and well educated individual, and possessing enough years to have developed. For these reasons I feel I must apologize for the blatant sexism of my opinion here. There is a great body of evidence that women are higher in empathy, but empathy isn't a total good. It is easier to empathize with people close to us than those further removed. When someone we identify with is perceived to be opposed by another, we naturally empathize more with the person we identify with. This is called an in-group preference, and it often leads to hatred or fear of the out-group. Here comes my first bit of sexism; woman have too much empathy. Without years of practice, women can only easily empathize with their in-group and are more inclined towards hatred of out-groups. The good news is that woman naturally want their in-group to be as large as possible, but the bad news is that this only makes them more vulnerable to other-ing people who they see as opposed. I am making the old cliqued and sexist argument, that women have a hard time tempering their emotions. Their in-group preference makes women extremely susceptible to the "them vs us" style of political argument. Women's in-group preferences are why they mostly vote as a block; their is no statistically similar Men's voting block. As a voting block, women are valued highly by politicians. This leads politicians to court votes from women's groups (feminists). Men, or sometimes just some men, are often seen as feminism's natural out-group. Here comes my second bit of sexism; with few exceptions, woman are willfully ignorant of political nuances. Feminism is a very big tent, and includes everything: suffragettes, pro-choice, pro-life, dworkinites, misandrests, intersectionalists, the historic prohibitionists, etcetera, etcetera. Because of their in-group preference, the women's voting block always sides with feminism. With the exception of abortion and out of fear, feminist groups rarely oppose each other. To oppose feminism is to become part of the hated out-group and shunned. So women will vote for feminist causes with no regard to the nature of what they are voting for. Over generations this has led to blatantly prejudiced laws and legal precedent. I know this isn't the answer, but I regret that we gave women the vote. Look what they did with it. If you have read this far, thank you and I'm sorry.
There is no hope. Only until men have had enough and our frustrations turn to rage and war breaks out against the mind numbing people who believe they should hold the power to rule over others, will we ever see a real change in the lives of parents. This torn society where people are harvesting and ingesting peoples souls cannot hold peace for the long term. I just hope it happens in my life time so I can die knowing that future generations of men and women can have some hope for a time where a parents right to raise their own is an inalienable right that no one would dare steal again.
I think I have an easier answer- DO NOT GET MARRIED, especially in USA or any WESTERN Country. The LAWs now put in place will crush a person. So Sad to Say.
Thank you for this video, sorry to see what you went throught. After 22 years of marriage just went throught restraining order 27 months, destroyed business, reputation, and not seen kids for 15 months. Totally lost, waiting for God to step in, trying hard not to be resentful. This Video shows Im not alone, helped me not to give up and to carry on. Thank you for your candid video.
@@thomasremmers8250 I like to be specific that’s all. I don’t like to say prayers for… and not pray. But I do trust God will help you if you pray for discernment on making choices that lead you to a Christian life on a day to day. Wish you the best.
Once I decided to divorce I recorded EVERY word between my wife and I! I played back my wife admitting she accused me of abusing our children at the direction of her lawyer in court! I won custody!
This is frightening for ALL fathers. There is no recourse for good men married to vicious unstable women hellbent to destroy the father's relationship to his children purely out of spite. The legal system is skewed to burn the father to the stake no matter what the truth is. Any one going in the hell pit of our legal system will face a boot set to crush the man into a homeless, jobless shell.
I've seen a lot of men marry manipulative crazy women because they just do it for them. It's similar to women choosing a cheater and abuser. People need to choose better. Marriage isn't something to take lightly and hope things will change after marriage.
@@Andromeda_M31 agreed, though I've got a friend navigating this, post-divorce revealed that he married a malevolent woman with a personality disorder that was covered up throughout their years together (of course, hindisight is 20/20). Sometimes I wonder how much of this is a run of really shitty luck and picking a wolf in sheep's clothing.
As a father who's child was taken from me for being a man who's mother was no longer interested in, no one talks about this subject enough. From lawyers, judges, and to children's aid themselves; are completely one sided against men. I did nothing, law-abiding man, actively volunteered with big-brothers, and was completely destroyed in court. My child is 6 now, and she has no idea I exist. There is 0 justice in the system.
37% of US attorneys are women. Only 27% of judges are women. If you guys really think courts are biased in the favor of women, then it’s between you and the men that dominate the court system. Take it up with your fellow MAN. It’s not women controlling any of this!
@@christopherchander2754 . True. Not him in particular, no. I’m just scrolling through comments blaming women and I’m at a loss as to HOW? Women don’t now, nor have EVER controlled the judiciary system! It’s been male dominated since the beginning of time.
@@aimeeglatt3299 You are right. Most lawmakers have been and are male. My question to you is, does the gender of the originators of a judicial, or any other, system, or their motives, have any relevance on whether that system is just, impartial, effective and, most importantly, beneficial to the parties who utilise that system? Massive problems such as this can only ever be resolved by men and women working with each other and not against each other...
@@christopherchander2754 . I agree. And I do believe that these stories happen. I have to be honest, though, I’ve been a preschool teacher for 25 years and have seen 100’s of divorces involving custody. I don’t see all these men fighting for custody. The very few I’ve seen really go to bat for joint custody have received it. From when I began teaching in 1997, until modern day, the reality I’ve seen is that 98% of them do not WANT the responsibility of custody and are perfectly happy with the luxury of being weekend dads. I see more mothers crying that she can’t GET their fathers to show up on Friday’s to take them! Even more so when the dads get a new gf. It just hasn’t been the reality that I or my fellow teachers have seen.
I totally agree. I was hit with the silver bullet. The court didn't have the intelligence to figure out the mother way lying. It took me 3 years to prove the mother was the actual perpetrator of domestic violence...and I ended up with primary custody of our son. But I had to move mountains to make that happen. Now I teach other dads how to do it, because the cards are stacked against them.
'my wife hadn't taken her medication and she called the police and made up a story about me being dangerous to our children.' Already relatable and we're still at the intro.
Hello I'm krystian Grabowski from Poland. I would like to thank you very much for your work. I don't know English very well, but I watch all your films one by one. Your TH-cam videos help me deal with a difficult period. I'm in the middle of a divorce. My wife is mentally abusing our daughter. Uses parental alienation. She also abused me during my marriage, but I didn't notice it. social isolation, guilt, emotional blackmail. I understand all of this thanks to your films about archetypes. Thanks again for your effort.
I knew I wasn't the only one. Had my daughter taken through a separation. It took me 18 months to get my daughter back with money, a good job, no criminal record, etc etc. Against a women who had several children taken previously by the state, but somehow I was always the bad guy.
@@vedapierce4176 most are, and all it takes is some shady lawyer saying "you should just lie about him in court to get the kids" and make her scared for her kids' well being financially and there's the easiest concoction for a lying whore if i've ever seen one
Yes, that's excellent how it happens! You get accused, they show up, you leave in cuffs, your life will never be the same!! Accusations will ruin a man faster than the truth!!!!
Divorce was the worst time of my life and was treated like a second class citizen. 13 years of child support and then when it finally ended the kids ended up moving in with me.
THANK YOU so much for bringing up this topic. My husband's ex pulled the wool over everybody's eyes including All the lawyers and judges when going through his very high conflict divorce. She managed to 'win' everything including full custody and all the decisions making, alimony AND got her wealthy father to pay all her legal fees while portraying herself as a poor victim in the court. My husband has been so duped he wouldn't even let his lawyers question her in the court while she was very successfully creating this image of an 'unfit father' with anger management problems while she was the one officially diagnosed with bipolar during the early stages of counseling- we believe that this is narcissism but the counseling never went that far to diagnose further. It came out she was pregnant with her exes child during the divorce with whom she had been cheating my husband but he never brought that up in the court. She managed to hide everything too well until she got everything she wanted and then went around smearing him 'that even criminals in jail get joint custody and the fact she got full custody shows how evil my husband is' - while the reality is the Exact opposite. Yet this is how broken the so called family court system is! She went onto alienate my husband's child to the point he never sees her any more but he keeps paying for everything and even more. When we got married she did the most heinous things imaginable to destroy us. She blackmailed, started stalking me on social media, stopped working to claim more child support and did things to the child humanly not possible to alienate her- if we went to court the family court is known to dismiss cases like this in the mother's favor. She wanted to marry before my husband remarried after 8 years and now has two more children with another man and duped him to adopt her 2nd child making that father lose the child too and keep going around pretending to be the perfect mother with perfect family. Sadly my husband's daughter has become just like her and she has no moral compass to learn from. If we had a proper family court system, at least these children would have ended up less damaged.
It’s happening to me. Started last year. Being betrayed by the closest person, by the loved one is unimaginably painful. She destroyed so much to gain so little. And that’s barely beginning.
And so many times the courts don’t protect. See kids killed in San Fran church during supervised visitation yesterday. This is becoming a more regular occurrence. Even divorce programs have a section on fear of safety related to divorce. The cop just says domestic violence is common. Why do we accept this? Does Jordan Peterson also have a video on the violence women have to put up with in divorce and marriage that goes unchecked?
My little sister is a psychologist and i think shes been planting ideas that my father was much much worse to my mother than i believe he was. He was unfaithful but he's certainly not the monster that i've seen him slowly be painted as over the last 2 years or so.
@@jarvislarson6864 Because even though victimhood is rewarded in today’s virtue signaling culture, there are still those who see the flaws in that lifestyle(like you & I). & there are still people who choose to take responsibility because it’s the right way to live, regardless of what society promotes. So saying “never” is a bit of an exaggeration IMO.
@@jamesbondoo81 let them write down contracts.. then their hands are bound to certain amount. Love and desire for people who dont vavule it make it hell. Its safer to pay whores and Play around then giving vavlue and Respekt. Its sad how high the rates are...
YES!!! A BIG like for this. Thanks, Dr. Peterson. I'm a pastoral counselor in Rochester, NY (licensed as a mental health counselor) and I love this talk with Greg Ellis. RIGHT ON about how social workers are trained, and the filth they get indoctrinated into. New York is vicious if you're a male counselor anywhere to the right of Che Guevera, and social workers rule the roost, they are in so deep in the government's back-pocket. YES, the McMartin Preschool trials and the Satanic Panic is the perfect example of this. Many blessings to you, and to Greg Ellis.
This cancer is manifesting in every part of government from the White House to the janitors at National Parks. It is filling the void(s) of parents not continuing the love and teaching from their parents (some never know love & teaching). From religion to intact family structures being destroyed by Socialists worshipping the system of security government via envy & wrath. Government becoming the gate keeper of “family” is dangerous and stupefying. Pure evil.
This is the "REAL" reason that marriage is at an all time low. To many of us have seen our fathers get destroyed. No matter how awful a mother is less then 20% of fathers get custody!!
This is what feminism has always been about. It was never “equality,” it is about female supremacy, all for the purpose of destabilizing society. Societies only thrive when masculine traits are the driving force, and the people in power want us to be weak
Yep, if my father would had been granted custody like he should have I probably wouldn't be so opposed to having a family. But experiencing what I did it's just too risky. Being alone and childless seems like a gift as opposed to divorced with children.
My Father didn’t see us 3 kids (10,8,7) for over 20 yrs until he was on his death bed. My mother had custody from the divorce and the House. My Dad ended up living in a 1 bed flat and would see us every 2nd weekend and we loved spending time with him, he was great with us. My mother found out he had a girlfriend and she was upset by that even though she was the one who filed for divorce, she made up some story and went for yet another court visit and we didn’t see him again for over 20yrs. I told him we had no Ill will or bad feelings towards him and felt terribly sorry for what he went through. He missed out on his 3 young children growing up into adults, our careers, his granddaughters. He’s been dead now for 10yrs and I weep to think what he went through living all those years wondering what his kids were doing.
I was lucky when I was a child the court gave me the choice on who to live with when my parents divorced I went with my Dad and things were rough for awhile since he lost almost everything In the divorce, but he never bad mouthed her in front of me until I was an adult and had already disowned her after truly getting to know her more
@@bondy7564 this type of stuff is really sad. Glad to see you know the truth and don’t blame him for society’s evil, at the very least. This is destroying our souls and our societies
This interview made me cry, as I was/am in this situation as well. I am missing my son everyday but his mother has a stronghold over him. I will buy the book to support gags in distress. Thank you for sharing your story with us.
This was a great talk, I'm happy to see Greg get some press, his story is heartbreaking and amazing with the lowest of lows and highest of highs, finding his place after rising from the depths of despair. I'm glad that Jordan talked to him and this is getting more attention, the degradation of our culture has been going on much longer than we realize, hidden, in the background, but now all that is coming to light, how bad things really are in the courts, the loss of the core principles upon which our culture was built is showing. I hope that everyone takes a closer look at what our legal changes have wrought and how easy it is to corrupt apparently good intent. Tort reform might not be a bad idea to throw around, not to mention an over haul in how courts work. We need to get back to values like justice, truth, goodness, beauty, honesty, loyalty, etc. No society can survive without proper engagement in the virtues and values that we are all moved by.
Well done Jordan for putting this issue out there … the idea that some mothers can peddle mistruths and game the courts system to gain full custody is really a major topic….bravo
I am going thru this exact same faith right now in Germany, and I am trying my hardest here. All alone. The unbelievable twist is that I am actually a registered case of domestic violence, at one point from strangulation I gave up and waited for my death. My husband was asked to start the abuser program, he quit and filed for divorce. My 14 years old son is manipulated by the father so much, he is breaking down mentally, and gain 35 in one year. He was a sporty healthy 14 years old before all these happened, fearless on his bike and doing the silliest tricks on ski. He gave in to the father’s manipulation, and gave statement to the family court that I abused him. I have never abused him. He became a ‘shut-in’. My husband twisted the story to the family court, saying that my son locked himself in his room all days because he is scare of his mother, of his mother hitting him, scare for his life. My husband prepared the ground for the divorce by going to my daughter’s school with many meetings with the school principal, all behind my band. I only find out this from the school principal’s statement written to the family court (September 2021) that the mother abused her children often, and he reported an incident where the mother had hurt the 16 years old daughter, bad bodily injury, bloody, and that it was witnessed and reported to him by the father and by the 14 years old brother. But this has NEVER happened. My husband took the chance while I was visiting my family in California, and took the 12 years old youngest son to see a child psychologist. Told the psychologist all kind of lies of the mother abusing the child. For the 12 sessions, the goal of the child psychologist is to help this child work thru his trauma by accepting that he was abused by his mother. My son asked me to make them stop, he doesn’t want to go. But the child welfare services insisted the child need to finish his treatment. I am powerless to protect me kids. Oh god. There is no justice. I am still in the middle of fighting this divorce case in Munich Germany. The most painful is his tactics on parental alienation. My husband doesn’t understand that I might be the one who is suffering right now, but the children are the one who will pay the highest price. The children are to lost their connection to their mother, for life. There is nothing more valuable in life than a loving parent. Does anyone has any advice? Or simply point out a resource.
Are there any friends or family members who can help by saying the truth about your relationship with the kids? Video, audio pictures, anything like that?
Contact a Domestic Violence Center. They have resources. Also (and I say this kindly from my own experience) look and be the best you can. If you look like a basket case you will be perceived as one.
I haven't seen my three daughters in over 10 years. The viciousness and determination to destroy family life and the young minds of our children I experienced from my partner, her friends, and the Family Law fraternity shocked me to my core. When I reached out to my perfect brothers and their families, I got lectured, and my close friends' help was usually based around "you're just going to have to get on with your life" advice. I eventually had a breakdown and ended up in a secure ward. My family had been dismantled, and when the perpetrators were finished and had what they wanted, they disappeared victoriously. Like any other vicious attack, this experience changed my character significantly. I can no longer allow anybody to get close to me without alarm bells going off and a type of self-preservation reaction kicking in. Watching this video brought tears to my eyes because I have had first-hand experience of this type of painful and damaging injustice. When will men be finally granted equality in these types of cases?
Wow! What a story man! Sorry for your heartbreak. Tell me more about your ex, her manipulation along with her friends. I often hear “your wife’s friend with determine your marriage” how true is that ? Also, what precipitated he divorce? How bad was the marriage before she filed ?
That's what you get for creating a child with a terrible woman and not fighting for full custody from the beginning. I'm willing to bet that you didn't even have a DNA test on "your" daughter to make sure she is even truly your daughter.
@@torachan23 wow, you must really know me to throw such hateful arguments. I’m so sorry life is so cruel for you you must try to make other’s a miserable one as well. I have been struggling for my life with 4 chronic illnesses. In 2013 I was given 3 months to live. Lost support from State, friends and family. Today I try to survive as best as possible. So yeah, continue to judge.
I’ve been lucky with my wife but many of my friends, acquaintances etc. have been beaten down by the system. No wonder suicide in men is through the roof. Thanks for covering this important topic.
You are touching on something so close to home, so imminent in my life and I’m sure many others. Mine was quite different as it didn’t have to do with this type of issue but a 10 year embezzlement case in a charity funded by our friends, family, church, and employers. I had overwhelming evidence - including voice recordings and papers from the banks themselves as to my non-involvement but yet once the damage is done - it’s DONE. I’ve never recovered and am still dealing with it all. The costs go well beyond attorneys fees. I don’t believe all women are evil of course but I do believe that men have an overwhelming disadvantage in the court system as it pertains to divorce and fair trials. This needs MUCH MORE light shed on it.
My mom put my dad into jail (I was 14), claimed domestic violence, lied to police after inflicting wounds to herself (I was there). After 2 years of courts, my mom admitted to lying, told judge “she was traumatised” because I told her I will never have a relationship with her if she doesn’t stop this hell. She destroyed my dad & herself. A decade later, she’s miserable and he’s moved on with a wonderful new wife. The system depleted my parents savings, divorce cost was too high. Mom says she was played by the state. Lol. Still a victim.
I think you're the perfect person to ask. We don't always know how someone can hurt you or if they are planning on hurting you. From your experience, is there anything that people can do to protect themselves and should a false allegation take place, what is likely the best thing we can do to maintain a healthy and strong relationship with our friends and family? - sincerely, guys afraid of false allegations
@@GomersPile01 this is narrow minded thinking. There are degrees of involvement. You likely have a smartphone which has batteries in which the minerals where mined buy kids in developing African countries. Your purchase directly enables and incentive the people and countries allowing and promoting child slavery. Are you just as bad as them because you know yet haven't done anything about it? She may have been kept in the dark, felt powerless or didn't know what to do and even if she knew exactly what was happening and didn't do anything about it(which isn't good), that still doesn't make it as bad a the person actually doing something evil. Just as you're not as bad as the African business owner enabling child labor even though you both are benefiting and actively doing things that incentivices it's continuance.
@@GomersPile01 I wonder, are you unemployed and getting checks from the government or from childrenbux? I am asking since you clearly have so much time in your hands to make an account pretending to be a male.
When my brother was going through a divorce his wife's lawyers were simply stirring things up to cause trouble with every letter they sent costing her i.e. my brother, a fortune. When he explained to her that these lawyers of her's would end up walking away with half of the money they had saved up she got rid of them and found less aggressive lawyers. That doesn't happen very often. He also told her that he would be there for her and the kids years after these agressive lawyers had forgotten her name but that if she kept them on out of spite she could forget him helping her out in future as he would rather go unemployed than pay for any court judgements made because of their actions. It was all settled out of court relatively amicably after that.
Unfortunately... Sometimes when people paint you as "The Bad Guy", you have to remind them, how bad you could actually be. I think there's some saying about, the dangers of not loving a child within a tribe. Where if you don't, they just might burn the entire tribe, just to feel that warmth? I can't remember how it goes exactly, but your comment reminds me of it... Too much kindness and long suffering, can actually condone and perpetuate abuse. Perhaps we've come to the end of the age of "Tolerance"... We need a new ideal.
Going through all of this right now. My ex filed divorce, and when I wouldn’t agree to just move out, she filed a restraining order to have the sheriff escort me off my own property that I pay for as my daughter watched. Now she’s lying in court making crazy claims and I am learning the hard way that I am presumed guilty before innocent and now spent $39k defending this and we only just got started.
Good luck to you… One man wrote on here giving advice to learn the law and represent yourself. He said it took him a year to study while was representing himself through the courts. Good luck
Not an unheard of story. Keep watching JP. Keep fighting. Educate yourself, self represent if all else fails... Join a support group, free knowledge is out there.
My spouse did exactly the same thing to me. Had me arrested for abuse and I've never even raised my hand or voice ever. She got full custody and moved my son as far away as she could move and sued me for $300 a week. I no longer can keep up with the payments, the government took my license to drive and my life has been really trying for the past 13 years. All because she wanted her own family and to answer to no one. She got help from DHHS and they put me through the full gamut of court. It really fucked my life. I no longer will be alone with a woman especially in the work place. You always have to have a third person present or these women will crush you.
I experienced accusations of domestic abuse when after 20 years my wife decided she wanted a divorce. The kids ended up on Child Protection for 2 years. I'd say my wife has been 'indoctrinated' into 'modern day feminism' She was advised what to do. The Domestic Abuse team have "We Help End Relationships" on the home page of their website. The social workers teachers(still do) and health workers treated me like shit. The police started harassing me while I was driving. In the UK you can get Legal Aid if your a victim of domestic abuse. She didn't manage to secure Legal Aid. It was probably the worst time of my life..I was already struggling. The divorce is now nearly complete. My advice is to men being accused is to walk away.
@Big Muff my friend, I have been through it. Not only false accusations, but the fact my bipolar first ex was assaulting me and abusing our two daughters, and was rewarded for it. I was punished for what she did. Mind you I am not a small, weak, timid man, I am a heavily muscled combat veteran who can seriously injure people easily with just my hands. So the cops would always ask if I touched her, and never cared that she had stabbed me or hit me with something. I have a divot in the back of my skull from a coffee mug she hurled at me. It was a relief when she left.. I got to see my kids a total of 12 days over the next 7 years starting in 2001. TWELVE DAYS in seven years. During that time they were garnishing 71% of my gross pay, and the state helped her hide the kids from me when I came home on leave to see them. It would take me months to save up enough money to drive 1500miles home, or I would catch a military plane to a nearby base and have my parents pick me up. I lived in my car, I ate once a day. I had $100a month to live on and nobody cared. Still nobody cares. I'm male, why would they? The second one cheated, she felt guilty so she falsely accused me, got a restraining order, and concocted a scheme with her boyfriend who worked for the local sheriff as an EMT. They fired him two weeks later because he is a worthless pos, but thats irrelevant to this. The prosecutor did everything she could to fuck me over, and I ended up sitting in jail for 15 days over something I could not physically have done. Also had to pay them $3000. Compared to the first I got off light. That was in 2013, the first ex was paid off in 2015. Both of my kids left their mother and moved 1000 miles away to where I live, to get away from her. They wanted to live with me, but the state would not allow it, saying veterans are dangerous and military men can get killed at any time, so they are unfit parents. A judge who was a Marine said that. Fuck that guy. Your kids will come around eventually when they realize you are not the crazy one. Just don't let what their mother does affect you around your kids. Don't get mad at her when they are around. While the 1st ex is addicted to oxy, turns 50 next year, weighs 300lbs, her second husband finally had enough and left as she was controlling and abusing him as well.... the 2nd ex turns 40 in August, her 'soulmate' left her after 5 years leeching from her father, because neither of them could keep a job. She likes to call the state police when she sees me in public. Just because she sees me. I lost my home with both of those, lived in cars and on friends couches. It 2013, two weeks after the divorce was final, I closed on 13 acres of woodland. I sold some old car parts, and my parents gave me a couple grand for the down payment. In 2015 when the first ex was paid off, I put all of that cash towards building my home and a shop on my land. I built a 32x48x12 shop, 5" thick concrete floor, and a lift to work on my old cars. The only thing I managed to keep from the first divorce was a bunch of old rusty cars that she did not want, because they were not shiny. The 2nd ex knew if she went after the cars or my military compensation, she would get nothing, but have to clean up after the massive fire and pick up chunks of my gray matter. So she left me alone. In February 2021 I paid off my mortgage and the building loans I took out. I am now living debt free, and no bank nor female can take it from me. I can build my cars without having to worry about my money going to someone who does not deserve it, or who mistreats me. I live alone in the woods with two Siberian Huskies, and I drive cool vehicles all summer. I will be 53 years old here soon, and life is good now. I busted my ass to make it good. I was 32 when the first ex financially destroyed me. 44 when the second one had me thrown in jail for things I did not do. Now less than ten years later I am doing better than both of them, and better than I ever did with them in my life. I do what I want, when I want. If I want to buy a new expensive engine or another car, I just go get it since I have money in the bank for the first time since 1991. I don't have to concern myself with making sure someone else is taken care of. My daughters are 25 and 27, they are on their own and doing good considering the nightmare their mother put them through. Life gets better man. It takes a while to get out from under what the state does to us, but eventually we are free and what we earn goes to us.... not them. Do yourself a favor, don't be stupid like I was and never marry again. I won't let them live here either. I still date on occasion, but they get zero commitment from me. As it happens rebuilding severely rusted old GTOs is vastly less expensive than a female in my life. For the first time in my life... I am happy with it. Life is good. So hang in there and don't do anything stupid. Walk away, rebuild your life, and never look back. There is nothing there for you.
I had exactly this happen to me What made mine 10x worse, is that, when abuse charges was being disproved, she simply laid molestation charges and then when that wasn’t provable or too vague, she laid rape charges.. My world with my daughters has been destroyed! WTF are it with woman today!? Do they not realise how they are destroying their children!!??
Please eliminate the word "destroyed" from your internal narrative concerning your world with those girls, Brother. Put your finger on your neck over your artery. Is there a pulse? Are those YOUR daughters? YES + YES = You have yet to lose a fight important enough to give it YOUR ALL. Defeatist thoughts will kill you dead where you stand, while your lungs attempt to feed something (still beating away) with life sustaining oxygen... ...a something that YOU allowed to effectively die off. This may sound harsh, but I swear to you it comes from a loving place of DEEP understanding. Before my first military deployment, my Father (who became a Policeman at 22 years old, immediately after his own Vietnam War centric 4 year Enlistment was complete (68-72)) gave parting words to me after I'd said my Single Father's "goodbye, but ONLY for now" to my 7 year old boy (who would be 9 before I returned from that tour). He and I have a terribly strained relationship due to his own HORRIBLE divorce from my mother (1984) that my sister and I endured in the least fairly dealt out dogshit soup sandwich thawe were forced to absorb. But I will never forget his parting command to me. A direct order, in fact. ***** "Stay safe as long as you can, Son, but never forget these Men here leaving with you. You have a job to do. It can potentially ask for everything...just like mine. We both volunteered for these uniforms, and now others are looking to YOU to DO that job... ...so go DO your Duty the very BEST you are capable of. But if it comes down to a point where it requires your very last bit inside you, and that isn't enough to end that fight, I want you to look at my Grandson right fucking NOW, and remember ALWAYS just exactly who HIS Father IS... ...and remember who MY SON is. If we have to get a knock on our door telling us 'That Day" has come ... promise us both one thing ... ... promise that the very last memory the man who took MY SON away from MY GRANDSON will remember for the rest of HIS life will be your finger popping into his eye socket and your fingernail scratching his fucking brain. ANYTHING LESS is an unacceptable reason for this boy not to see his FATHER again...because you are going to do whatever you have to do, but what you WILL NOT do ... ... is fucking QUIT. If you start to forget that, you need to look down and read that nametape on this uniform. You can't spell 'quitter' with those letters." ***** Those type words were uncommon coming from him, and I knew it clear as day as he said them. Warrior to Warrior. And I promised both of the men that shared that name with me EXACTLY THAT, rig I meant that promise. I retired in early 2020. I never withdrew that promise...it still stands to this day. Now, I don't know you from Adam, but what I DO know is that you are a FATHER, just as I am. So listen to ME right now: I am NOT a better Man than you are. I don't care if it takes you 20+ IMPOSSIBLY HARD years from THIS day forward. SO BE IT. With God as my witness, your Daughters will not forget a FATHER that took the word "Quit" out of his dictionary and torched that bastard of a word and made as sure it burned as completely as Cortez watched his own Ships torch away. I already used way too many words here, so I'll assume you hear and understand why I say what I said...and I'll shut my pie hole.
When it's a wife/partner, it hurts the heart. But with children it rips out your soul - An unimaginable level of pain, a transformation from a will to live to willing death upon oneself, a darkness so profound the mind seriously considers it a dream whilst incapable of sleep. Imagine the unconditional love you have for your children. Now try to imagine an emotional pain of that same caliber. I have been to hell. Never give up and seek to make the world better; it's the only way you get out.
Having a brother who went through this sort of malicious, disgusting false allegations by his ex I can empathise with what he went through. I am of the EXTREMELY STRONG opinion that if a partner, whether it be male or female, if they make false accusations against their partner out of malicious intent, to keep them away from their children, whatever, it doesn't matter. If you lie about that person & cause them as much harm as you do then you should spend a minimum of 10yrs behind bars. End of story. There needs to be consequences for these bitches that lie & destroy lives just because they can
It's crazy. It's the only court where lying will not result in criminal proceedings, and considering the damage done to real people, it's unconscionable.
I disagree. 10 years behind bars is weak sauce. For the heinous act of lying about another human being having their children taken away and becoming destitute or close to it the only reasonable response is the death penalty.
Tom Leykis has been talking about this for DECADES. This will never be me! I survived this male hating society with no wife, no kids, NO DEBT, no court dates, no alimony, no child support, no emotional abuse, no psychological abuse, no drama, no yelling screaming and crying, no "MAN CAVE"(my entire home, garage, and yard is my man cave), no endless bs... know financial independence, know peace, know contentment, KNOW SOLITUDE, know yourself. HAPPILY SINGLE. I made it without being forced to give away everything I've worked for to women, or worse her and some other man's children. Ef that noise. Woooooo AND whew. Thank you Dad! Blow Me Up Tom
Happy for you. But not the solution. Your solution hands the reigns and future of humanity over to degenerates who incompetently have children, does it not?
@@maxtroy The next generation isn't our problem, and stopped being our problem when men were evicted from the family. Let it burn. If you don't like that, then do something about it.
@Psellus My genes do not belong to me, nor do yours belong to you. You are the way your genes manifest. Don't be a puppet of your genes, go be a man. Not many actually will.
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Lazy discussion on the CFS feild. Im a CFS worker and know that the majority of the work done is necessary and is inaccurately portrayed in the media and unfortunately in this interview. You should find a reasonable child welfare professional and interview them. Its a fascinating feild with its own corruption (like all government bodies), but you need to be careful about blindly agreeing with this man's claims about how these services actually run and why.
@@UNOwenWasMe does it make you less miserable when you try to pull others down?
@@user-gv7jp7lu5x can you expand on these inaccuracies please? I admit that I've only heard one perspective
@@EssexEx The notion that agencies gain extra income for children being put in care. Funding would increase based on general statistics, but only to provide for the needs of the child. Generally speaking, foster parents make very little money, and protection workers are heavily underpaid for the work they do.
There are others regarding the concept of "visitation", the nature of apprehensions, and how workers are trained to interview children. If what this guy says is true about how the children were led on with questioning, that worker should be fired and does not represent how these investigations are conducted.
@@user-gv7jp7lu5x you mentioned that there was a lot of corruption in these agencies. I wouldn't want to approach this in bad faith but isn't it possible that there are explotaitive elements that seek to capitalise on a larger foster care population to make and siphon off funds?
I don't mean to make accusations towards the foster parents or the care workers and I don't think Peterson's guest is either.
Also are there really no questionnaires that seek to unveil abuse? Not leading but direct questions.
Sat here crying my eyes out. You are telling my story from 1995. I havent seen my daughter's for over 20 years. The lies told about me. Thank you for raising this very painful issue.
Sorry to hear that man, I hope one day you do see her
Awful
Terrible terrible corrupt and evil system we are living under. God bless you and your daughter. I’ve been through family court myself and it is hell
How awful! I just cannot imagine!
What happened ?
I remember watching my father as a kid go threw his divorce in 1998 and losing everything, but I was at the age to choose who I wanted to stay with and I chose my father. We had moved to Texas and started all over again. He helped me become an amazing man.
Wow Daniel, I am so glad you and your dad could bond like that!!
Happy that you overcame all of that
I would love to know what made you choose your father instead of your mother ? That’s almost unheard of..This was my situation with my son .. with out the marriage ..
@@kennywhateva6279 I had a better relationship with my father then my mother. He was a great teacher and we always found time to go to the movie theater alot when we bonded.
@@danielsantiago8146 my god I live in the movie 🍿 theater with my son to this day… so much so I pay a movie pass by the month.. thank you for sharing that .. I was shocked when my son said to me “ I’m staying here “ with you as his mother moved to another state he was 10 at the time .. still haven’t fully grasped it and it was years ago… thank you for your insight and experience on that .. 🙌🏾
As a 30 year old man, I still have not gotten over the way my mother treated my father throughout and after their divorce proceedings. He's not even my biological father, but I was old enough to choose to live with him, and so I did.
I reported my abusive mother to the social services and police as s child and begged them to put me into Foster care but all they wanted to know was if my step dad abused me.. they did not keep me safe because they didn't believe a woman was capable of abuse and they believed her lies.. my heart goes out to this man
In this world nobody really cares about you except from family, the government absolutely has no compassion for what you're going through, the father is usually the cash cow and they are after the fathers money, it's strictly a money game
So was it only your mother who was abusive? Not your step father?
Wow! It's so good to have a female become forthcoming about her experience in this fashion, my 10 year old daughter has been dealing with aligations that make it seem that I can't be a good and healthy Parent. Thank you for this.
In regards to Children, Women can be just as abusive as men, as long as they are the physical superior. When it comes to being abusive to those that are their physical superiors, they switch to mental abuse.
(I'm not picking on all Women. I'm just saying that the lie of Women's 'Moral Superiority' has enabled horrifying amounts of Trauma like yours to be all but Ignored.)
My God, this makes me so grateful to have the mother I had. My parents never married, and my mom got custody of me. But she never badmouthed my dad, and any time I wanted to see him she would go out of her way to make it happen. She even did such things as going to court to tell the judge that my dad didn't have the ability to pay child support -- as by this time he had three other kids with his wife, who had recently killed herself -- , that we didn't need it, and that they should stop garnering his wages. When the courts inevitably ignored her and my dad's pleas she would send the child support money back to my dad. She's a saint of a woman, and I've never been more grateful for all she's done for me than today.
Wow,... I wish I heard more stories about divorcees like this one,.. but, of course, I don't.
a rarity
Wow
Your mum is a remarkable woman.
Your mother is a hero.
My whole body starts reacting getting warm and tensed watching this video. It brings back memories of the same thing 10 years ago. I'm an accountant working at a well known financial institution. Being trusting and being lied to is a bad combination. I lost my house, my job, criminal records, jail time, courts, payments, bankruptcy and worst of all the most important thing in my life, my daughter, was taken away. All that time growing up, I wasn't there. I had to sneak in to see her on her school's basketball game. She's over 18 now, but she doesn't know me anymore. I'm still hoping one day she'd realize how much i love her and i'd give my life for her.
Mike love you brother
Mike God bless you and I hope your daughter will understand and know you love her. You and your daughter will develop a good father-daughter relationship soon! I hope you’ll get a good job to contribute to the society you live in!
At least she's alive. My ex *MURDERE* our son, when I won full custody, after a decade of fighting for him.
And, of COURSE, she never saw the inside of a court let alone jail!
I have several daughters that will never know their father because of a hateful mother
Keep trying No Matter how many times the door is slammed in your face.
I’ve been their Also.
I showed up for everything I could that involved my children. Just showing up goes along way.
I pray for all the fathers, who have been through such horrors. Thank you for your strength and for the love that is left in you. This is truly terrifying.
He speaks of the cartel of the divorce court industry in an age where we consider ourselves intelligent and problem-solvers to have such a non-functioning system has to be intentional it is just another part of the destruction of America in the family unit in the total end of Life As We once knew it we are entering the age of Aquarius the age of transhumanism the end of humanity and the living under full spectrum dominance of the human domain.
DO NOT GET MARRIED IN USA.
So Sad to Say.
That would be most of us. Women can justify being very selfish and cruel as self-preservation.
All the love I used to have withered, dried up and blew away like dust in the wind, all with the rest of my life.
I was blown away in the wind and all that was left to do was to grow a new life and foster a new love within me.
I had a divorce and my ex was a judge. Her peers (and friends I should add) were the ones deciding the case. You can all imagine how it went…
Sorry to hear that man, stay strong 💪 man.
I've been there kinda myself.
Mine worked for the community Police department. Where we lived ! She made up lies about me and of course they believed her.
The best thing is my kids were older and they knew about the lies. I still lost A LOT of stuff. She made up lies about me...got a restraining order put on me and had me thrown out of the house the next day she made the order....and of course they did it !
Was their corruption from them and her ?
Oh hell yeah ! Lost a lot and had to pay a lot.
They couldn't be your judge, because under the law, they are compelled to declare conflict of interest. Otherwise their ruling could be invalidated
@@richardkm5355 bro, I live in Brazil…..
@@NinjaGaiden-z7t that's sad bro. Stay strong
As a father who went through a rough divorce this brought tears to my eyes, seeing parallels to my own experience.
DOUBT ALL WOMEN
Take care, I understand how you feel from my own experience.
I was the child that lived through his experience. Only difference was my stepmom pushed my dad to take me away from my mom and I actually didn’t see her for years and had to go through supervised visits where I would tell my mom I wanted to delete myself.
shame on them.
Been there. Done that, twice!! NEVER again will I trust a woman!!
"The only branch of our legal system that doesn't begin with the presumption of innocence." So well said! And oh, they're moving to make this the norm in other aspects of law
We're all guilty of being potentially infectious now.
It has the persumtion of innocence, it just also has the persumtion of possible imminant danger.
What's your oh so great soulution, police don't take somone in hold when they get a call my husband just said he wants to murder our children???
You can say there needs to be more through investigation, what is absuluty resonable, necessery (etc.) but that men was even against the investigation. When you can't remove somone for an allged threat to childrens live and can't investigate it what exactly IS that perumption of innocence supposed to be like?
@@catsaresocute650 She has a point. A lot of crazy females threaten the lives of their children and the father cant do anything about. The courts are STACKED against men. Gentlemen. Do. Not. Get. Married!
"The whole divorce industry can feast on the accumulated wealth of a once stable family."-JP
wow, what a quote.
Watch the movie "Divorce Corp". Quite eye opening documentary. It's a $50B/year industry and judges, courts and States are incentivized to keep it going.
That statement was quite profound, wasnit?
fuck lol damn... to say a lot with few words
Can should be replaced with will
A once stable family. - hmmm should be fragile family.
I have been going through this same thing since 2018 with my ex. She lied and said that I threatened to kill her, and I was taken away. Next thing I was sleeping on friends couches and only keeping $426 a month to live in while writing her a check for $1,600 a month on top of her stealing all the money, 56K from our joint account. How was I supposed to find a $300 an hour lawyer when I only had $426 a month to live on.
I have known this for a long time n thus I don't want to get married but I want kids ,
Very similar story here, how are you doing today?
@@slimfbiggyansah4295 get a prenup
@@slimfbiggyansah4295 - if you have kids, its the same as marriage.
@@TheDevestatorX Sadly, this is not a fix. More and more prenups are being disregarded by the courts, to the point they are not worth the paper that they are written upon.
One of the most important topics of our society not discussed enough.
Absolutely! The court system, is an absolute joke.
This is what feminism has always been about. It was never “equality,” it is about female supremacy, all for the purpose of destabilizing society. Societies only thrive when masculine traits are the driving force, and the people in power want us to be weak
@William women don’t know their place in the world anymore. They are trying to be like men, which is why the perceive “oppression” when there is none. Women were happy in the home
DOUBT ALL WOMEN
@@dannnnydannnn5201 the natural order is God over Jesus, Jesus over man, man over woman, woman over child
I am Australian. Trained as a social worker over twenty years ago. I work for a not-for-profit. JP is exactly right when he describes how social workers are trained. I am not the creature he's describing, so you can imagine what this makes working with other social workers like for me. I have literally been told by my Team Leader that I won't progress in the organisation because of "my views." I asked him about his own career progression, and he admitted that he's in the same boat. It's as bad as JP describes and only getting worse. I am in the process of training in another field. Unfortunately though this PC cancer has already spread so much that it's actually in the field I'm retraining for . "My views" are pretty much on par with JPs. In other words completely sane and moderate.
Could you give us more insights as to the mentality of social workers ? How many of gem actually believe taking these extreme measures are justified?
From the Australian perspective how similar is our system to the American one they describe? From my small information we are very big on kinship in Australia and taking children from both parents is the absolute last resort? Typically don't we try to keep the children with one parent? Interested on a in perspective?
To be fair to social workers who work with complex families, they are often in a position of having to make decisions with limited information. Social workers are always trained to advocate for the vulnerable, especially children. So if a social worker suspects that a child is at risk, they must act on this. At this point in human history, family violence is gendered, that is, statistically, men are more likely to be violent towards women and children than vice versa. This does cause social workers to err on the side of caution in believing a woman when she speaks about her/her children, being in danger. Social workers who work in child protection and domestic violence get so distressed and disheartened constantly having a front row seat to violence by men against women and children. Unfortunately then, when a truly malicious woman does come along and accuse a man, social workers are inclined to believe her. Two facts are true at the same time; social workers are trained as JP described, AND trained to spot/protect/advocate for the vulnerable. In Australia, a social worker would not be involved in a criminal investigation per se (such as interrogating children). The role would be confined to sourcing and delivering services, such as case management/counselling. And social workers do not run family law systems, they have way less clout than, for example, lawyers and judges. Would I encourage either of my daughters to study social work? No. At the same time, many people who are attracted to the profession, want to make a positive difference and are truly nice people who have been fed a certain ideology. I'm currently studying financial counselling, and would consider volunteering in a women's shelter to help women get back on their feet financially and take really good care of their children. And yes, sigh, financial counselling is full of far left ideology.
i had 2 friends who are social workers. one is a normal christian woman who serves the people. the other probably went into the field bc she needed help herself. she was very distrustful in her friendships and other relationships. i supported her thru many difficulties and when i got sick, she questioned my faith . when i reacted badly she refused to speak to me again. i don't know how she could help anyone else.
@Zealadinn me and /other guys lives have been ruwand/messed up and or died from it and i had male coworker's die as well so this can kill and or she can get off kill him slowly or by gun and quickly and messy
Whoever says "Believe all women" has no idea how malevolent women can get once they choose the path of distruction. Although I am a combat veteran, going through divorse was by far the worst thing that has happened to me. The only reason i didn''t end myself was because I didn't want my kids to be left alone to be ruined by their poisonous mother. Thank you for this episode!
Exactly. Believe all women = Disbelieve all men
I've heard horrific stories from my bosses, it makes me want to never get married, and its sad because i want that life, wife, and kids and it's such a deterrent
I am so sorry for your pain. Please know that there are women who see the poisonous effects of this ideology and are ashamed to share XX chromosomes with these harridans.
I liken this to fake hate crimes. No punishment is enough.
@@ohsnap6506 many of my friends say this. But the risk is just too high with the way things are. DON'T GET MARRIED!!!
"The only reason i didn''t end myself was because I didn't want my kids to be left alone to be ruined by their poisonous mother. " Glad you are still with us brother.
I hope he makes a movie out of it and it becomes a blockbuster. Just one mainstream moment where men’s pain is being recognized.
Marriage Story is now out on Netflix
It will be protested and cancelled just like Cassie Jaye's "The Red Pill"
I divorced my husband of over 20 years 5 years ago. As a woman, my lawyer actually tried to suggest that I tell the court that my husband was a terrible father. I flat refused and found a different attorney. Not all women that file want to ruin their husbands. I pray for all the father’s that have gone through what you have gone through
Thank you for this. It's woman like you who stick up for men like us that is our salvation.
You are a rarity. Thank you. I only wish more women were capable of being honest when that is the case. I do realize it’s not always the case but you clearly are letting us know that there are women out there like you.
Respect to you for what you stood up for but frankly, praying is not nearly enough.....getting out on the street with bloody huge banners exposing this bullcrap system is the closest thing to a beginning.
By the way, almost 3 years now since I have had an un-biased conversation with my daughter. For the record I petitioned my ex...why?...she attempted to make me homeless behind my daughter's back. Well, she was spanked for that. I would do the same again. Nothing I did was illegal. She was the one who used manipulation tactics, lied and was deceitful. I have legal proof of this whole debarcle.
My daughter passed by me on my local city street and because of bad Police work, I can no longer approach her in order not to break laws. So, in effect, my country's Police force has stolen my love from my daughter whilst colluding with my dishonest wife..................
JUSTIFY THIS PLEASE....like I said, PRAYING ISN'T NEARLY ENOUGH when it comes to manipulation/dishonesty. Women are either on men's side or they are not. I AM ON HONEST WOMEN'S SIDES. If you have my back, expect me to be at your side..because that is where I will happily be.
You have my word on that...FACT...that is all I deal in..that and honesty.
@@kylehahn1654 rarity? thats funny... if people like her cant hold up a marriage they never should have done so in the first place.
In good times and ba.... nvm byebye
Lots of women believe thier own lies & its scary
I went through all of this. I am a Gulf War Vet, 100% disabled from PTSD and going through the system was 100 times worse than anything I went through in the Gulf. I still break down sobbing when I recall our first supervised visit with our kids after they were taken because our house was a mess. Only 5 of our 9 kids showed up and they had no idea why they had been taken. The 3 year old thought he was going home with us afterwards. I wanted so badly to just take him and go anywhere with him. Every visit was the same. Tearful hugs to start the visit, playing and laughing and singing for an hour and a half and a half hour of 11 people sobbing uncontrollably because we knew it was almost over. Some of the observers would tell us we weren't allowed to cry because it was hurting the kids. A few of them actually read the case files and/or asked us why we were there. Eventually the ones that actually wanted to help children would be in tears at the end of every visit along with the rest of us. My wife is now paranoid and doesn't trust anyone including me. It completely ruined a very happy, loving and beautiful family for financial gain by the state. I need to write a book about it but it's so hard to even think about it.
Heartbreaking! Much love to you and your family
Keep a journal of your pain and experience without the intention to publish but a document of truth memoir with answers that they will want when you are not around. Stay strong.
Stay strong, you are not alone!
Wow! So what do you mean by “the house was a mess “? Why did the state take the kids on the first place ?
Terrence Popp’s channel is good for divorce and vets. I should just say “vets” since the divorce rate is nearly 100% according to him. Very off color humor, but it helps.
This hit hard. I'm a child of (multiple...) divorces. My mother tried turning me against my biological father for more than 10 years. I now have cut her out of my life and have a decent relationship with my father. I can't imagine how he felt that whole time.
Its not just him as you must have lived your own nightmare and your father knows that and is part reason it hurts so much. Hopefully you can go on and meet someone who is not like that as not all women are bad just like all men are not bad and you can have a family your father can enjoy with you.
What were some of your mothers methods ? How did you step-parent(a) treat you? Did your mother divorce multiple times ? Did she try to destroy the men in other relationships?
Happy to reply to this...................
NO YOU CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT HE WENT THROUGH.....I can tell you.
1. Two to three years of trauma.
2. Complete lack of belief in court systems.
3. Complete lack of belief in the word HONESTY coming out of any woman's mouth or mind.
4. Complete lack of faith in Religion.
5. Complete lack of faith in ever beginning to re-bond to a daughter/son(LOST CHILDREN).
6. As there is a pattern developing here...complete lack in pretty much everything in life and the meaning and purpose of it.
7. Daily losing HOPE...and pretty much not a day goes by when you don't think of your child....and your undying love for them.
Hope this helps....and my daughter reads this one fine day.
:(. Thank God you saw through the manipulation!
Love these situation, you have braved a dangerous situation well.
“The burden of proof must be on the accuser not the accused”. Absolutely brilliant statement and so true.
It comes from Roman law that is the actual ground for all justice systems in western countries.
Dr. Peterson:
I owe Cathy Newman a debt for interviewing you. You were amazing. I had never heard anyone cut through leftist bs like you did.
I then found you on TH-cam. I watched hundreds of hours of lectures- some multiple times.
I read your books. Maps of Meaning, Twelve Rules fir Life and your last 12 more rules.
For me the first 12 rules book and Maps of Meaning were deeply meaningful. Your last would have been as powerful as your first two but I had lots of background by the time it came out thanks to your channel, your podcasts etc.
Your Biblical series revolutionized my view of the sacred.
I am 62, married for 36 years with one Son (almost 30years old) and retired. You changed my life for the better in many ways all for the better.
You have been tortured by the left for years. Regardless, they have not kept me and millions of others from finding you and studying your works and watching your lectures.
God bless you and your family and friends.
Sadly, leftist bs has already won.
"I am 62, married for 36 years"
Yet you let your wife support femfails crimes against men. You are a manhater. Your son should disown you.
@@MrWinstonSmithR101a Where on Earth did you see anything about what he "lets" his wife "support"?
He has another book he's writing about "white guilt" among other things called Wrestling with God.
@@MrWinstonSmithR101a are you insane?
As a disenfranchised father, and victim of similar divorce graping, I am deeply grateful to you, for addressing this particular social injustice. It doesn’t get addressed enough. The family court system is destroying father’s, and their children’s lives. Some of the damage my wife, in collaboration with the family courts, has done to my children, me and my relationship with my children is irreparable. Men will continue to avoid marriage as long as the laws remain the same. Listening to this reawakened the PTSD I still have from this experience. But it was also very cathartic.
God bless you...
Right there with you mate. We all need to speak up about this or it will never get fixed. For me, the tears haven't stopped but I need to know I'm not alone.
@Mrs Winston Smith Thank you, Mrs Smith. We could certainly use the help.
@@trelawneykerley2968 It’s been over a decade, and I’m still not fully recovered. I don’t think I’ll ever be.
I hope you find some solice after your experiences. It's tough. All of it is. To watch children's lives be damaged but also to watch good father's have everything stripped from them.
I've had some bad experience with our INjustice system. I'm glad I didn't have kids yet because it would have been even more devastating.
Good luck to you and stay strong. Even bad things often ripple into purposeful outcomes.
Having spent two years in family court after my ex accused me of abusing our kids, while they mentally collapsed under her care, I can say without hesitation that family court cares very little for truth and the welfare of children. Its a nightmare beyond the words of men to define.
DOUBT ALL WOMEN
100% true - they do not. And yet it’s not true if men make the same claims. Womens emotions > mens facts every time.
Quote from the judge in my case . I am sure you are kind and loving father. But due to your wife's unreasonable behaviour I cannot make a joint custody order work. I grant her full custody care & control. SO WHY EVEN TRY...?
Think on that last sentence, "It's a nightmare beyond the words of men to define" in the knowledge that men are the greatest adepts of the language. What we see happening in the gender war is founded on an instinct far older than our ability to speak.
@@ChocoMisomom I dont know how, it's easy to see the imbalance.
I think the only reason u care because it effects the finances of your husband which ultimately effects u.
Im not saying u are a bad person but most women ignore the plight of men until it effects them.
I'm a mother to an amazing 3 year old. Her dad adores her and I cannot imagine what kind of incentive would make me hurt her by separating her from her father. She needs him to grow up a confident and self secure woman. I would never do this to her. It's so sad the hear that this is happening.
You are a wise woman, your family is blessed to have you in their lives. God bless you and yours!
@@LiftOffLife how do you know?
@@Lissy11ish where the outrage then? All I hear from women is how they are opressed by the patryarchy.
I can answer the question you pose. Women apparently are more vulnerable than men are to becoming involved in some received concept of social reality or social truth and then becoming convinced of the reality of the past facts that would make the social concept seem valid when no events in fact occurred.
In the case of the story in this video, the wife apparently became convinced that
the intervention of the law was required under the term of some social template.
She then, when told that certain events had to take place in order for there to be a legal intervention, therefore almost instantaneously started to believe that certain facts were true that were not. What I am describing is delusion, not willful lying.
Men may lie or they may hold opinions about their own past that are not very supportable, but they do not generally develop a belief that things have occurred that have not. Men may conform to some received social template but they do not make up facts. They just keep their mouths shut and go along.
If they develop anger, they either internalize it and express it in self-destructive behavior, develop simple depression or they act out violently or at least delinquently. They do not invent facts that make the causes of their discomfort simply disappear.
None of this applies to you, but you seemed to want to know what makes a woman do these kinds of things. My answer is, unless she is an outright sociopath, either mental illness (likely manic depression or schizophrenia) or a problem with her character structure leading to extreme insecurities. All my opinion, of course. Other people might have different opinions.
@@8Maduce50 exactly....not a single woman is going to fight for change in family court. NOT ONE....they would be crazy to give up a winning hand.
This is a conversation that needs be elevated, as it affects nearly half of the country. Thank you.
The whole country. Actually.
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@@chickenmonger123 yes, the children, grandmas aunts cousins etc
It's a matrimonial holocaust, with children's lives destroyed.
I really loved this show. I thought I was the only one going through this in 1992. My son is thirty and we're closer than ever. Please don't give up or lose hope because the children will mature and learn the truth. Keep in mind everyone stated to me, "What did you do to her.". I'll assume mothers and women are never at fault. I love you too.
We all do when we grow up but then we are filled with such bitterness we don't want to see them not even want to be with a woman who we think may one day turn out like these vicious women 😡
Thank you for talking about this. Im so grateful that Jordan is alive and well. We need him during these times of government overreach. Not many people have the courage that he has
end results of feminism
I do!
Idk was the wife on chemical birth control? Was she before marriage? It kills libido..and she had mental issues.
And a system that encouraged her behavior.
Feminism for legit equality is good..modern feminism as a political ideology..can be greedy and shady
It drives me insane when people say "We need JBP now more than ever" because he has done everything in his power to bestow his knowledge & understanding to us over the last 10 years. He has more footage uploaded to youtube than Mr. Beast. He has podcasts, lectures, & discussions like the one in this video. He has given us all the tools necessary to pass the torch to us in the fight for freedom. We dont need him now more than ever, he needs us now more than ever. We understand his principles, we need to apply them ourselves. He is getting old, & he cant keep this up forever. We need to do exactly what JBP has been saying forever, take personal responsibility for our own problems. Though I hope he can keep this up for a long time to come, one day he will be gone. & we need to "follow the path laid out for us" so to speak. He has given us so much knowledge, its time we apply it ourselves.
As a recently divorced father of two, myself a witness of anti-male bias in the law & courts here in Canada, estranged from my son & daughter, losing my career ... I had to stop watching 30 minutes in. Too familiar, too powerful, and so fiendishly awful. The fact that men like us survive this phenomenon is a testament to the power of self-acceptance and 're-learning' to live.
Don't ever accept the malevolence towards children and learn to stop it.
I am sorry you had to go through that
Yes!!!
The divorce laws and the punishment for fathers is against the charter... We are painted with a stain that is hard to rub off.
Going through it now. And yah my wife filed a fraudulent restraining order just like for this guy.
So much of what he said resonated with me, I went through a divorce 11 years ago and it was hell. I wanted to die. I prayed everyday for strength. God whispered to me to hang on, life would be good again... life is very good now. I made it, praise God.
❤️💞
These men are so wronged. No wonder the once most important vestige of democratic healthy society the family is in a rapid downfall. Sad state, but who’s to blame? The narcissist you’ve married or decided to get entangled with? The (in)justice system without checks or breaks?
Congrats.
Congratulations! Well done.
@@gracegwozdz8185 Who's to blame? Men. For allowing women to vote.
Thank you for this discussion - As an adult woman I have often thought about my parents divorce - and I knew my father was being devastated and - as a child could do nothing about it. Our close father/daughter relationship was attacked and finally shattered. A terrible, terrible loss
Thank you for sharing your story? Do you have other siblings? Did you get married yourself ? What does your mother say about the divorce?
@@bookofeli4867 why would she not get married? She’s a woman. She benefits from the corruption of the family courts.
@@amin151dmg so? Doesn’t mean she wouldn’t want to get married herself. Hell, I’ve seen guys who go through the worst divorces possible and still get married again.
The Answer for Men -
DO NOT GET MARRIED IN USA, or any Western Country.
So Sad to Say.
i entered law enforcement in 1993 and served as a police officer for 9 years. At that time there was a huge movement underway by women's lobbying groups ("Sister Care") to recast the burden of proof in domestic violence cases so that officers would be required to arrest accused men when responding to alleged cases of domestic violence. several years later I became a lawyer and learned about the incredible swing the family court system beginning in the mid 70s to currently favor women in the way it does now. when i practiced family law i always told male clients that you WILL be accused of physical violence, and there is a good chance you will be accused of harming your children as well. the family court system has been intentionally broken and made into a punitive political tool for what we now know to be social justice reasons. the child protective services involved are absolutely full of far-left crusaders who have no compunctions about steering these sorts of proceedings.
This is the kind of crap that drives men to mgtow or Islam.
Yeah, I was attacked by my severely intoxicated wife, and i was arrested. I was charged with a felony domestic assault, with zero evidence, that cost me over $10,000 dollars in attorney's fees. Six months later I was "no billed" by a grand jury at the request of the DA (in my state, those charges cannot be dropped, must go before a grand jury, unlike killing another human being). No consequences for the people who victimized me.
@@Mick762 sorry that happened but not surprised in the lease. i have seen many, many men accused of such things on little or no evidence and there is always a parade of crusaders ready to lead the lynch mob.
Women love to exercise soft power over men. Welcome to universal suffrage, where women and thirsty losers are 75% of the vote.l
Got to say it -
DO NOT GET MARRIED IN USA, or ANY WESTERN Country
So Sad to Say. So many men Suicided.
happened to me. and there’s no accountability for perjury at the level of divorce court. i’m still trying to recover emotionally and financially. thank you for speaking up.
This brought back terrible emotions I have suppressed for years now. I am now a stranger to my children. I had to chose between fighting a fight I can't win and losing my mind. I fought and lost and nearly lost my mind. I cried in the courtroom like a child. I hope and pray when my children are old enough they will know the truth and hopefully understand why I was not in their lives. This system is broken and must be fix because the repercussions will be dire to the next generation.
I pray that you reunite with your children soon. Don't lose hope.
I don't know you, but I too, pray for you!
It already is…50% of ALL marriages in divorce. Children of divorce parents are THREE times more likely to end up divorced themselves. The cycle continues until people stop getting married altogether. That is also hapening. Birth rates world wide are down as are populations.
Unless you have a protective order against you, do not give up. Send cards, let them know they are loved.
@@redbarnhomestead7384 Fuck that. Why should he continue to expound mental and emotional energy in futility?!
Happened to one friend of mine. His ex lied and claimed he'd molested his daughters. They believed he had abandoned them, and didn't learn the truth until they turned 18 and could contact him without her approval. They don't talk to their mother anymore.
DO NOT GET MARRIED IN USA.
So Sad to Say.
Same I had a friend who's ex wife got full custody and visits stopped because she said he had worn a bathrobe in front of their daughter....one look at his ex would tell you something was not right with her. He never got to see his daughter after that, he is one of the nicest, most placid men I have ever met .
@@postitnote7716 I think that was the issue. Women secretly must hate nice men. Seems to be a higher proportion of them getting grinded through the family courts.
I went through the same thing. I left my son's mother and she filed false reports of domestic abuse. She also made several false reports to the Child Abuse Hotline. I was arrested and was looking at a 15 year felony prison sentence all based on lies. I was under house arrest and had to wear GPS ankle monitor for over 9 months. I had video evidence that proved my innocence, even so, the prosecting attorney refused to drop the charges after receiving the video footage. There was zero evidence I committed a crime. Men have no due process for domestic abuse charges. You are guilty until proven innocent or found more guilty. Her entire bases for the false allegations was thinking she'd get full custody of our son. The state I live in is 50/50 by default. She wanted to cut me out of my son's life so she could keep him all to herself.
Something tells me that lawyer and that woman are greedy little goblins.
@142 That's victim blaming. The system is simply corrupted. It never happens the othet way around that people can make these sort of excuses. Toxic women are being excused for their behavior. They can engage in toxicity because even when being proven wrong, there are no consequences.
@@Alnivol666 third wave feminism and the Duluth model for domestic violence has a lot to do with the way the system is rigged against men. In a nut shell with the Duluth model, women are victims no matter what. Men are automatically guilty of domestic violence and if a women commits domestic violence against a man...he had it coming and shes seen as a victim. No equality in how a woman is treated in the justice system. Women get a slap on the wrist, or no slap on the wrist, and men get pummeled to death.
Same
Story for me
Mate sad eh? What can you do nothing .
No, she wanted to cut you out of your son’s life first to punish you, then to destroy him.
This reminds me of what Judge Judy always told feuding parents, "you have to love your child MORE than you hate each other," and that always stuck with me cause it angered her to see mothers take kids away from their fathers just cause they were upset.
Wise words.
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Very true, thing is most of these men who choose divorce obviously do not love their children more than they love themselves. Same goes for women that are choosing divorce. Neither loves their children more than themselves, if they did they wouldn’t be getting divorced, outside of TRUE abuse.
Or... You have to love your children more than taking their mother away. Men with money take mothers away from children.
@@Laura-hc6ez LOL women without money take fathers away from children.
I had a similar experience in Australia 22 years ago. My sons were 4 and 3 at the time. She started another relationship, wanted out of ours and her and her mother were hellbent on destroying me. After being completely sold out by the Family Court Lawyers & System, I was able to restore my parental rights by getting family law advice from a disbarred lawyer and then successfully represent myself in Family Court 3 years later. My sons are 26 & 25 now. We have been very close ever since 2003, I have financially recovered and never remarried
Very wise man.
Sounds very familiar, great that you have a deep relationship with your children.
Good for you bro. Here in the Middle East we have not reached that far. But recently the law has changed. Women can get divorce relatively easier than before, as we are still governed by sharia law of some sort. The law is on the side of the children. Kids can be given the choice of where they want to live if they are above 11. But we are required to go to family counseling before pulling the plug. But surely 10 years ago was much better.
My hero. Also very fortunate.
Sounds very similar to my story from 6 years ago. I have sole parental responsibility and the children, now 12 and 10 live with me.
When I was 2 and my brother was 5 my Dad told my Mom that he didn’t want to be married anymore. She begged him to stay in the marriage. She was young and terrified of being left alone with two small kids to raise. But he packed up her car and sent us on our way. He was an alcoholic and I guess wanted the freedom to drink and party. But whenever he wanted to see us my mom would make sure it happened.
He finally got sober when I was 17. He’s spent everyday since then being in my life in the most important ways. He’s an amazing grandfather and has helped many people in AA.
Im so grateful that my mom never tried to keep us from seeing him. She never demonized him or tried to use our relationship for revenge. I’ve thanked her many times for being so selfless. Her view was that even though he was a terrible husband, he is our father and we deserve to have a relationship.
My father is now 81, dying from cancer, and I’m just so blessed to have these last 30 years together. Turns out his father was an alcoholic and abandoned him when he was young. I’m thankful my Dad gets to live his final days knowing he broke the cycle and was able to right some wrongs. And I’m thankful my Mom gave him that chance.
You broke the cycle
Having been almost totally let down by the courts I gave up because I couldn't stand the strain. I'm 66 years now, I no longer have contact with my three children. They are strangers. I still pay child maintenance, but I'm alive. The divorce was my choice; I divorced her for her adultery (which her sister informed me of), but she won everything. I was advised not to challenge for custody as it was a waste of time. I did challenge, and it was a waste of time. The tears I shed. I am bitter, who would not be?
So sorry for you! For the mistake of being involved with a narcissist and for loss of your family.
I endured a very similar set of circumstances, friend -- an insane divorce in '09-'12 with similar results. I am so sorry to hear that you are estranged from your children. My heart aches for you there. I emerged from that season of my life completely ruined and destitute on EVERY level. I have 4 kids, estranged from 3. They are now all adults.
Fortunately, I have an amazing relationship with my youngest child and only daughter, who saw thru all the lies and B.S. and stood by her Daddy throughout the years and years of absolute hell. That literally kept me alive, so all I can say to you -- from one survivor to another -- is how much I admire your warrior's tenacity in the face of such incredible adversity and suffering. May God bestow his healing mercy on you and pour out His blessings on you in radical and unexpected ways.
Help is in God
Thank you for sharing.
What worked for me was surrounded myself with men and women who gave a damn about their world's. I personally found them in two places.
1. Landmark Education
2. The Sterling's Men's Institute
It was a journey but now my world makes sense and my relationships work. I've been away from both for at least 12 years but there's not a day that goes by that I don't appreciate what beauty has come from what I experienced and learned. That's my best to you good sir. Be blessed man and never give up on what you love. You still have time to make great things happen. Take a deep breath and know people out there need to hear your wisdom and you need to hear there's, and that's what a great life is. Go live it. I'm standing with you and for you.
I'm only pissed I got Covid and missed my fully paid for trip this week to Iceland to see the live volcano. So I'm coughing and cheering you on from my cozy home in a little village in southern Deutschland. Anyway, thanks for distracting me with your authentic words. Forget about the lawyers invest in your character and understanding and watch how your world changes just because you stop getting in your own way. For God's sakes your listening to Dr. Peterson that means there's something brilliant inside you your kids need to know. For starters, write them letters. Don't worry about sending them, just writing them will begin something endlessly productive with where you want to go and who you want to be when you get there. Ok I'm gonna go now and huk-up my Omicron filled lungs in the bathroom. Oh yeah, I should take Vitamin D too. ✨👍🏼✨ Be well!
I wish I could just hug every man who goes through this!
Go out and petition the government for change instead. "Thoughts and prayers" are an empty gesture.
Not sure if they care for your hug on their miserable position
I was this kid, stuck in a messy custody battle with an mentally unstable mother and a determined and loving and noble father. Only because my unhinged mom threatened the judge did my dad get custody. I suffered permanent emotional trauma over it. God help these kids, life is gonna be hard even after the events pass. So few understand. 💔
My mom accused my father of domestic abuse, while I was away at college. Each accusation could be verified my me or one of my brothers are gross misrepresentation. She has since changed her mind, only after two years it was apparent that both her and my dad would end up destitute. In a large way I will never trust her again and her character will always be tainted by a stain of malevolence in the eyes of my brothers and I.
So much easier these days, my grandmother just told my mom she'd be the reason her mom was dead if she told the courts she wanted to live with her dad
Big up mate!
@Dreamseed_VR oh my gosh, sorry to hear that. How did she threaten the judge?
Plz help me to understand what and how and why all this happened to u? The same thing happened to me I don’t use drugs or alcohol. I got custody of my daughter and her mom told off the judge also she only showed up to court 4 times as I had to deal with the court for a year my daughter is happy and has everything she needs ! So plz let me know ? I’m a great father but if I can understand u many I can help my daughter she’s 7
In 8 hours since this has been published, 2000 random people have shared their stories. Nearly identical in impact.
Thank you, JBP, for talking about this and having the courage to pursue this topic.
THIS is the real pandemic. Evil
I went through a much less serious "march to insanity" some 20 years ago. The bad memories have mostly faded. It was a battle royal for 5 years. I applaud this man's efforts to expose and reform the system. I did nothing wrong and was accused of everything, you name it. And many believed it. Then years later during a nice conversation my youngest daughter told me that they (my ex, her attorney, the child mediator, the court assigned psychologist for her, the DA's office) that I really did not love her or want her as they attempted to poison her mind and cut off communication between us. I suddenly realized how loved I was and how important that was and if I did anything wrong it was that I should have told her out loud more often how much I loved her. I was overcome by emotion. Moving forward I was sure to tell her how much she means to me and how much I love her. I have grandchildren and a wonderful life now but it all hung in the balance. Guys I suggest you reinforce with your kids always how much you love them and tell them. Because after all the false allegations, the money settlements, the mistreatment you get ... they may suffer more than you think if this happens to them. God bless guys if this happens to you keep your cool, learn the system, and fight like hell. The most amazing thing about this video is that these two incredible men covered so much truth in a little over an hour.
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This happened to me, at 30 years old I lost my children my business my home and had very little left of my life once my ex-wife was done making up allegations slapping me with the restraining order. And I never knew it was coming. Thank God that the truth did come out and she was convicted on 37 counts of prescription drug fraud.. which she says is why she did what she did because she was scared I would leave her when I found out. So she destroyed my entire life and everything I had ever worked for and my relationship with my children. Because you see even after she was convicted and admitted to all of this stuff she still kept on the brainwashing of my children every time I would pick my children up she would call the cops cause them mental anguish rain wash them at 2 and 4 years old to the point where I have had no relationship with my children since they were 8 years old even though I have never changed my number in 20 years so that my children can find me.... It nearly destroyed me. And I pray daily for any man who is going through this absolute destructive abuse put on by the system of corruption in this country..the answer in family law is to go after the man no matter what and destroy him.. it's wrong!
I'm sad you went through all that! I hope you find some peace. Much love to you hon!
This may sound weird, but I have found recently that if I imagine myself on a cross next to Jesus it helps me endure the suffering that the evil doers have afflicted upon me,, bringing me closer in relation to God. These people can’t outrun the truths the set in stone. They aren’t getting away with anything if we forgive them and live in content knowing we aren’t alone in this ultimate injustice.
I'm so sorry brother you had to go through this, I can't imagine the pain you've endured. Be strong there is still a chance for your children to develop a good relationship with you. Give it time and keep being the loving, responsible man that you are. God bless you and your family!
My ex wife left a day after I came home after being in hospital 6 months fighting for my life and justified her behaviour by saying she thought I'd get her to seek treatment for the eating disorder she'd been pursuing whilst I was away. This was 2 yrs after I'd been arrested after she claimed abuse (no evidence, charge dropped) and she claimed she didn't realise what would happen (it was revenge because I separated from her due to her bad behaviour but then took her back, like the fool I was). My point is, women justify their bad behaviour by saying they have a mental health problem as an excuse for ruining your life and your children's life. She still put herself ahead of your marriage, same as my ex.
I don't buy it anymore.
Ed. When I write this out (only part of the story) I realise how crazy was her thinking and behaviour.
@@Joe-nf2sz
I'm sorry you went through that my friend. I'm sure it has changed your outlook on the world. This is the Era where men are better off going their own way without women.
God bless you and yours.
I was raked over the Family Court coals by a kidnapping maker of false accusations. I studied law, defended myself and my children vigorously and finally got myself and my children free. It took every ounce of strength in me plus an actual miracle. But it finally ended. Ten years later I feel I'm just about to recover emotionally.
God bless you.
Godbless you.
@Thomas Yeah. Good eye.
I told a family court cop about family court as an extension of the welfare state and he laughed. I asked him, after his 12 years there, had he ever seen someone happy to be at family court, and if the line at the armored guarded Xray machines at the entrance had ever gotten smaller.
He walked away silent and shaking his head angrily. That was after 2 other cops had tried to come up behind me. That is a bad place.
@@LBBKPHILLY It's rotten to the core.
I watched my little brother go through this. It took a toll on our family for many years. Unfortunately my brother took his own life due to the situation he had been put in.
Sorry for your loss. I’ve heard too many horror stories from divorce courts and how vindictive wives can be to place my life at the mercy of the altar of marriage.
So sorry to hear that!😢😢😢
@@What11235 I assume that moment will be when she meets the next best opportunity who comes up. Then all of a sudden it’ll be “I haven’t been happy for a long time and I’m not sure I ever loved you”. It’s almost like they come preprogrammed for betrayal.
I’ve contemplated it but I refuse to make my mom and family suffer. My life has literally been ruined financially emotionally and physically due to stress.
Stay strong and I am sorry for your loss
That's how they win. If you're suicidal, forget the rules. If you are going to die anyway, go force your way into your representatives office and tell them off for how horrible the system is. Arrest means nothing compared to death; you have nothing to lose. Go do something crazy (because it isn't actually crazy).
Same scenario for me, once the lawyer got hold of her I was doomed. Her performance in court could have won an oscar. The judge bought it. My son was twelve and is now thirty-eight with a wife who is bitter with me also. There are three grandkids I've never seen and have no contact or communication with my son, none. You learn not to go crazy carrying it with you, the pain is always there though. I actually think my son is traumatized to the point that he desperately needs counseling, he loved me as a little kid, and I never stop.
My thoughts are with you man. For something for genuinely wants to meet a woman and start a family this is terrifies me. Tho I dont think i will ever get in a relationship since im not what any women want apparently. I hope you are going better man.
I'm in a similar situation. Few understand the pain.
Just use the 2 year rule regarding relationships. If you date one another for at least two years, all phases of one's personality comes around. For me I was young and ignored the red flags, believe me when I say, they were there.
Google a dude called CHILDRESS who deals with Parental Alienators....he has worked out that it is not a complicated fix....it just takes swapping the nasty manipulative parent over with the innocent manipulated parent and hugs from the parent who was manipulated and the child's recovery begins to build.
Hope this helps somehow.
My heart is broken for you I too have grandchildren I have never seen or even know thier names.
I went through identical circumstances in 2013, and it's still going on. It's so great that both of you exist, and are having this conversation.
This all happened to me 10 yrs ago and lasted 5yrs...She ruined my life and I'm left emotionally, financially and spiritually damaged now! The lies and cruel treatment I suffered at the corrupt system and a cruel woman left me broken! She claimed abuse and violence to be entitled to legal aid!!! I had no warning I was assumed guilty and treated as an offender... I Havnt seen my son for 5yrs now... My heart is broken and unsure will ever feel whole again
Should've asked for proof, or evidence.
Jordan, This is has been the most difficult of all of your videos to watch and you've had some that hit the mark. I have just recovered from 30 years of anxiety having lost contact with my kids for 6 years, DL 3 times, passport 2 times and an immune system collapse. If not for my faith I would not be writing this. God Bless
God Bless Brother 🙏🏾
Wow god is good! Thank you for sharing
What were a few things that caused the divorce?
Why did your ex keep the kids away?
@@bookofeli4867 really? Yes God is good. The few things or should I say the many things were/are lessons I needed to learn. Third Wave Feminisms included the idea that men were no longer needed in the family and served the purpose of little more than sperm donors. There were also financial benefits never mind no fault divorce and the idea that it was time for women to act more like men. This also including the promotion of infidelity and a societal effort to break down the family.
@@bookofeli4867 because the system said she could. Selfishness IMHO
Grateful for this conversation. As a man still trapped in this now at a decade of abuse, lies and manipulations. My message to anyone going through this is work on YOU. Become the best person you can be. Don’t give into the abuse and “legal mafia” thumbing you down. Do the right things learn the laws in your area and spend whatever time you have no matter how little with your child/children wisely. Focus on enjoying yourself and being yourself with them. My son is now 11 and is slowly seeing through his mothers evil lies and games. It has been horrific to go through this and I know many out there are still trapped in the hell this inflicts on our minds. The only way out is through my friends. Good luck and keep growing stronger!
Love this message! I've been divorced for nearly 20 years and the vilification hasn't stopped, but the kids know who's telling the truth and who isn't. They'd walk through fire for me but know I wouldn't let them. Much respect!
You are doing so right. I understand that you do not to talk badly about his mother to your son, which is vital, as he has half of his genes from her. Tell him often that every child has the right to love both his parents. Tell him that you are upset about the divorce, but not about him liking his mother, and that you regret what has happened since and that you couldn't stop it, but that he has no fault in the process. Tell him that you love and miss him every day around the clock and that you are working on good relationships.
You are determined to do all you can to help him have a happy life and a bright future. You firmly believe that he will be doing great in life, try to trust that he is a resourceful growing person, and you are, too. Let your friends and family help you, to make holidays and celebrations nice and even fun. Have faith, the truth will become visible. Remember that few other relations can become so infected as that between spouses, exes, lovers. Use every conceivable remedy to help yourself bring more harmony into your own life and your son's, too.
Show your son that there are lovable women in your life, whom you trust and like - he needs to see that. You obviously can handle this, I only said these things as affirmations and experiences from my own overcoming an ugly divorce and the lowest point in my life, and I didn't even want the divorce. I got strength from the thought that even in adversity I was the role-model for how to handle life-events and relationships, with responsibility and perseverance. Be a father he can admire as much as you can. All the best!
Tried that, then my mother, the group homeowner, and my sister-in-law decided that they were gaslighting me from my daughter when I found out some information. But you are right, any separation of the family should go 50/50 and that's what we did, until others wanted in on controlling the narrative.
Coach Coty: Thanks for your support and advice. What would you suggest :if you have got too exhausted-sick from decades sleeplessness to do further research, when there seems to not be legal advice in Sweden online,
when you have a serious disease and Aspergers disability,
when taken your home, rights and money,
when not being able to get a job(probably) and needing a platform first,
when not given psycho-therapy, real support or counselling,
when not having close friends, loyal family (fearfully mistrusting but loving) or partner?
Do your friends know enough to be able to support you?Or can you take time-out from grief, fear, anger and stress to actually have fun? I need to have fun, but only want to save my life. Which is a Sisyphos-task, since I am not able to solve problems without calmness, facts and honesty from them,.
I get so disrupted by the presumptions, prejudices and tepidity of others, and from the constant confusion instilled by false promises of help that then turn out to be fake, a waste of my dwindling resources and soul substance( my brain substance as well, for sure).
My hopelessness and self-destruction now comes from the fact that I seem chanceless, having been in dire straits already before this final catastrophe. If I had my health and energy, and money, and self-confidence before, that would have posed a good buffer to draw from in bad times. But without hat?
Do you have advice for my situation, too? I should be most glad and grateful.
I am so glad for you having friends and self-confidence enough to enjoy yourself.
@@Medietos sometimes taking care of you starts with rest. Start with controlling what YOU can control. Get as much sleep as you can to allow your mind to heal. Think objectively about your self and your situation. Work on your nutrition, meditation, prayer, light exercise are all great places to start in healing the wounds of the mind and soul. I know how low this can bring you I was suicidal more than once over the years. The “gaslighting” is so so hard to handle. Know you are not alone. There are many of us around the world. The lies and manipulations literally bring you to question yourself. What I can say for sure is if you find the courage to go forward. To listen to the truth within you and to take the time to work on you. I promise there are better days down the road. As tough as it is to hear the only way out is through! I recommend 2 books to everyone. #1 The four agreements by don miguel Ruiz I practice the agreements every single day. I believe the audio is free here on TH-cam. I also recommend the Bible. Gods words are truth whether your a believer or not the wisdom within the book is transforming. For me the combination of practicing the four agreements, following gods word. And the undying will to provide for my family have pushed me to where I am today. If I can do it, with all the mistakes, sins and never ending gaslighting I know any of you can too. -with love, Coty
What happened to this man is unfortunately the rule rather than the exception.
It happened to my father in 1992. I was 9 or 10 and was smart enough to recognize what was going on. I chose to live with my dad, and it was the best decision I ever made, and probably ever will make. We're close to this day and I cannot imagine how much different my discipline, confidence, intelligence, character, would be if he wasn't around. To all the fathers out there, if you tried but failed to see your children, forgive yourself. It isn't your fault, believe that.
- Sons.
As a therapist there's a reason why I decided against going into social work. I've never seen so many self-righteous social workers in my entire working life!
The few I interacted with were truly indoctrinated idiots, with a GCSE in social work and a chip on their shoulder. They believed that their job was to win cases, even if it meant lying in court. And had little to no interest in the happiness and wellbeing of a particular child.
The one's I know are burnt out and cynical.
You don't need to pour petrol ->
JUST DO NOT GET MARRIED.
So Sad to Say, because most men love to have kids.
My divorce left me homeless, living out of my car for one year, while I was paying child support, alimony and paying off debt.
No one cared for my health.
We care man. Stay strong. It shall come to pass.
women have biological programming to divorce - its part of their mid life crisis
I’ve heard your story so many times. But NOT ONCE have I heard the same story from a woman 🤔
I wish you the absolute best of health, happiness and wholeness.
Wow how did you end up with absolutely nothing ? Did she use a false allegation to take everything? How come she got ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING??
It's about time we're having this conversation.
end results of feminism
Its already too late, it has done so much damage already …
It's taken 40 years just to have the conversation,it'll take another 40 for anything to be done.
This conversation has been going on for a long time. But mainstream media aided by woke algorithms dismiss it as MRA/Incel/Red Pill/etc nonsense. Peterson and Greg are shouting into the void. I wish these issues would be taken seriously, and I think it is at a very glacial pace as more such false accusations come to light. The woke left are exposing and cannibalizing itself one tiny bite at a time.
Stay strong Greg. I am a son of divorce and parental alienation and brainwashing, but with time and through adult conversations with your grown sons your relationship can be renewed. I love my father and am so grateful for him.
An incredibly important topic that has damaged millions of families throughout the world. I have personally experienced the dysfunctional, bureaucratic and toxic Provincial court system in Canada for going on 12 years and it is deeply disturbing to see how many holes, reckless and careless behaviour of not only the courts but family lawyers as well. Reform is beyond past due.
Being through all this myself, not seeing my son (13yo now) since May 2013, all thanks to the same monstrous practices held by the Argentine family court system. I wept several times listening to Greg’s story. I personally gave up, moved on and away. My salute and hug goes to each and every man sharing his grief in this comments.
Wow man! I couldn’t even imagine. You’re so strong. Sometimes walking away is the best!
Why did your ex completely remove you from the kids life’
@@bookofeli4867 She has a history of abuse from father and brothers, also a ‘culture’ of cheating that I naively thought would not repeat while with me. When cornered in her actions, she found false domestic violence accusations would effectively wipe me from the household, and worked 🤷🏻♂️
Of course I kept and keep paying child support, but she went beyond and claimed for damages and all my assets are in danger. I decided to move to another country and start over.
My heart breaks for you man... Hopefully one day you can right this wrong.
@@patodm The end is in sight for all Western nations that have abandoned religious traditions & embraced feminism & other inversions. We're close to the point that the only solution is complete annihilation & rebirth from the ashes.
As a woman, wife and mother, my heart goes out to all the fathers wanting to have a close relationship with their children and not being able to see them. I feel heartbroken. Praying for restored families and parents putting their pride aside and kids needs first.
Don't pray, actually do something about it.
@@SirSmurfalot not sure why you’re being rude. I mean this from the bottom of my heart and you don’t know if I’m doing something about it already.
@@ramonamelnichuk8277 In what way is he being rude? This is precisely why I don't have much hope for women in general. They're hypersensitive to statements that are apparently rude.
@@brazwen to tell me „don’t pray“ - I’m a believer so that’s rude. I’m not sitting here crying about it but my husband thought it was rude too and he’s a man. I hope you guys meet some women that will change your mind about them. My husband has struggled with depression and emotional childhood traumas and I’ve been his safe place, the one who always believes and supports him. Wishing you guys all the best for the future.
@@ramonamelnichuk8277 I think the person was trying to say is praying won't solve the problem woman have to stand up and put a stop to this. 😊
What I learn from this episode, in form of an analogy:
1. Instead of having an ideal negotiation, where A and B come to the table and say "Let's talk";
2. The Family Court System has become where at the table, A has a gun pointing at B's head and say "Give me";
3. The Issue is NOT whether A has pulled the trigger (i.e., ruining B's life); the Issue is that A has the option to do so in the first place;
3.5 Out of 100 simulations, some versions of A may not pull the trigger. But, EVERY version of A can;
4. A default (somewhat) good-faith negotiation has turned into a default hostage negotiation.
There was NEVER any "good faith" in this system. It has *ALWAYS* been pure anti-Man communism pushed forward by the feminazi brigade.
That is not an analogy unless your goal is the world's longest phrasing of the analogy "a negotiation is like a firearm" -- which is not what I think you meant to say.
Married high school sweetheart. 35 years danced around her so called PMS, Depression, Anxiety, SADs and PTSD from her childhood. Finally, after 3 marriage counselors and my getting own psychologist thinking it must be me, she filed for divorce in 2016. Took me another two years 2018, in a college parking lot prior to entering the library sat in my car and googled, "What's a person that's Entitled, Manipulating, Controlling, Never Wrong, etc.......... Pow, Melanie Tonya Evans channel popped up. I clicked on play and less than 2 minutes into video, began bawling my eyes out finally realizing what I've been struggling with all my life - Covert Narcissistic Personality Disorder. It saved my life. Still in recovery.
There's way better channels than hers that's one of the save the women channels where they blame men she's not a good one for men to research narcissistic resistance is a good one too you'll like that one he talks about the baby boomers and practically their whole generation or narcissistic I married a narcissistic woman because that's what I had for a mother which is also common I had a baby boomer mother who was a piece of s***
@@harrydick3300 Just your channel disqualifies you as anyone with integrity!!!! You don't respect family!!!!
Mr. Peterson as a Grandmother I thank you for addressing this immensely important subject The devastation caused by this flawed morally corrupt system needs exposure and overhaul . As a woman I am sickened how overehemingly biased family courts are in their favouritism towards Mother's . It's no wonder many Father's are absent from their children's lives. I always assumed wrongly this was voluntary, now I know its not the case having seen my son forced to navigate this nightmarish system. It is heartbreaking injustice that forces them to leave. Their plight is futile so they have no choice but to lose and face a lifetime of agonizing grief . This must change because lawyer's and Mother's seem to be the only profiteers .
As you so rightly said the respondent receives zero justice causing immeasurable mental anguish. Mr. Ellis and you described how often this overwhelming profound powerlessness drives men to the very edge in excruciating despair. How is this helpful to society ? Tragically at the center of all cases the most important issue gets completely lost, our precious children Their welfare somehow gets swallowed up and completely overlooked as theatrics of legalities ensues clocking up costs adding enormous strain . It is the children who ultimately pay the heaviest price as they also grieve. I hope you'll revisit this human tragedy which desperately needs championing. Fathers should have the same automatic respect and rights as Mother's in family courts, unless proven otherwise. 50 / 50 access should automatically be given . No Father or child should be penalized for the disintegration of a relationship. Society would benefit from this. The system should adopt a child's philosophy who invariably love both their parents equally. Why in these times of demanding social appreciation are men treated so poorly and face discrimination within the legal system. This is a gross and an unacceptable miscarriage of justice . Thank you again and to Mr. Ellis for writing his book which must have been incredibly difficult to do . The afformation in this interview offers a faint glimmer of hope in an otherwise dark abyss. Best wishes to you both.
You seem like an intelligent and well educated individual, and possessing enough years to have developed. For these reasons I feel I must apologize for the blatant sexism of my opinion here.
There is a great body of evidence that women are higher in empathy, but empathy isn't a total good. It is easier to empathize with people close to us than those further removed. When someone we identify with is perceived to be opposed by another, we naturally empathize more with the person we identify with. This is called an in-group preference, and it often leads to hatred or fear of the out-group.
Here comes my first bit of sexism; woman have too much empathy. Without years of practice, women can only easily empathize with their in-group and are more inclined towards hatred of out-groups. The good news is that woman naturally want their in-group to be as large as possible, but the bad news is that this only makes them more vulnerable to other-ing people who they see as opposed. I am making the old cliqued and sexist argument, that women have a hard time tempering their emotions.
Their in-group preference makes women extremely susceptible to the "them vs us" style of political argument. Women's in-group preferences are why they mostly vote as a block; their is no statistically similar Men's voting block. As a voting block, women are valued highly by politicians. This leads politicians to court votes from women's groups (feminists). Men, or sometimes just some men, are often seen as feminism's natural out-group.
Here comes my second bit of sexism; with few exceptions, woman are willfully ignorant of political nuances. Feminism is a very big tent, and includes everything: suffragettes, pro-choice, pro-life, dworkinites, misandrests, intersectionalists, the historic prohibitionists, etcetera, etcetera. Because of their in-group preference, the women's voting block always sides with feminism. With the exception of abortion and out of fear, feminist groups rarely oppose each other. To oppose feminism is to become part of the hated out-group and shunned. So women will vote for feminist causes with no regard to the nature of what they are voting for. Over generations this has led to blatantly prejudiced laws and legal precedent.
I know this isn't the answer, but I regret that we gave women the vote. Look what they did with it.
If you have read this far, thank you and I'm sorry.
There is no hope. Only until men have had enough and our frustrations turn to rage and war breaks out against the mind numbing people who believe they should hold the power to rule over others, will we ever see a real change in the lives of parents. This torn society where people are harvesting and ingesting peoples souls cannot hold peace for the long term. I just hope it happens in my life time so I can die knowing that future generations of men and women can have some hope for a time where a parents right to raise their own is an inalienable right that no one would dare steal again.
I think I have an easier answer-
DO NOT GET MARRIED, especially in USA or any WESTERN Country. The LAWs now put in place will crush a person.
So Sad to Say.
Thank you for this video, sorry to see what you went throught. After 22 years of marriage just went throught restraining order 27 months, destroyed business, reputation, and not seen kids for 15 months. Totally lost, waiting for God to step in, trying hard not to be resentful. This Video shows Im not alone, helped me not to give up and to carry on. Thank you for your candid video.
So sorry you're going throguh this. Stay strong.
So sorry to hear what you're going through. Stay strong brother! Peace and love. God bless.
What’s your first name brother? So that I may pray for you.
@@rodriarambulo GOD knows but when you pray trust in the LORDs knowledge and pray the best you can , because Christ hears you
@@thomasremmers8250 I like to be specific that’s all. I don’t like to say prayers for… and not pray. But I do trust God will help you if you pray for discernment on making choices that lead you to a Christian life on a day to day. Wish you the best.
Once I decided to divorce I recorded EVERY word between my wife and I! I played back my wife admitting she accused me of abusing our children at the direction of her lawyer in court! I won custody!
Smart move, man!
Great story. I like that one
Document EVERYTHING! It's the saddest really for self protect.
This is frightening for ALL fathers. There is no recourse for good men married to vicious unstable women hellbent to destroy the father's relationship to his children purely out of spite. The legal system is skewed to burn the father to the stake no matter what the truth is. Any one going in the hell pit of our legal system will face a boot set to crush the man into a homeless, jobless shell.
mental illness is now the norm and it hates and wants to kill mental health
Happened to me. Complete distrust in lawyers, and any form of law enforcement since.
This doesn't just happen to fathers. Read my comment above.
I've seen a lot of men marry manipulative crazy women because they just do it for them. It's similar to women choosing a cheater and abuser. People need to choose better. Marriage isn't something to take lightly and hope things will change after marriage.
@@Andromeda_M31 agreed, though I've got a friend navigating this, post-divorce revealed that he married a malevolent woman with a personality disorder that was covered up throughout their years together (of course, hindisight is 20/20). Sometimes I wonder how much of this is a run of really shitty luck and picking a wolf in sheep's clothing.
As a father who's child was taken from me for being a man who's mother was no longer interested in, no one talks about this subject enough. From lawyers, judges, and to children's aid themselves; are completely one sided against men. I did nothing, law-abiding man, actively volunteered with big-brothers, and was completely destroyed in court. My child is 6 now, and she has no idea I exist. There is 0 justice in the system.
37% of US attorneys are women. Only 27% of judges are women. If you guys really think courts are biased in the favor of women, then it’s between you and the men that dominate the court system. Take it up with your fellow MAN. It’s not women controlling any of this!
@@aimeeglatt3299 He never said women are controlling this. He said the system is unjust.
@@christopherchander2754 . True. Not him in particular, no. I’m just scrolling through comments blaming women and I’m at a loss as to HOW? Women don’t now, nor have EVER controlled the judiciary system! It’s been male dominated since the beginning of time.
@@aimeeglatt3299 You are right.
Most lawmakers have been and are male.
My question to you is, does the gender of the originators of a judicial, or any other, system, or their motives, have any relevance on whether that system is just, impartial, effective and, most importantly, beneficial to the parties who utilise that system?
Massive problems such as this can only ever be resolved by men and women working with each other and not against each other...
@@christopherchander2754 . I agree. And I do believe that these stories happen. I have to be honest, though, I’ve been a preschool teacher for 25 years and have seen 100’s of divorces involving custody. I don’t see all these men fighting for custody. The very few I’ve seen really go to bat for joint custody have received it. From when I began teaching in 1997, until modern day, the reality I’ve seen is that 98% of them do not WANT the responsibility of custody and are perfectly happy with the luxury of being weekend dads. I see more mothers crying that she can’t GET their fathers to show up on Friday’s to take them! Even more so when the dads get a new gf. It just hasn’t been the reality that I or my fellow teachers have seen.
I totally agree. I was hit with the silver bullet. The court didn't have the intelligence to figure out the mother way lying. It took me 3 years to prove the mother was the actual perpetrator of domestic violence...and I ended up with primary custody of our son. But I had to move mountains to make that happen. Now I teach other dads how to do it, because the cards are stacked against them.
'my wife hadn't taken her medication and she called the police and made up a story about me being dangerous to our children.'
Already relatable and we're still at the intro.
My husband wasn't taking his prescribed psychological medication and obtained a protection order pro se to remove me from my home and children
@@watkinsinc.7147 again. Relatable.
I divorced him anyway even though he promised me I would loose everything including the air I breathe before he would divorce me. Took nearly 5 years
It is child abuse to use ones children as a weapon and the Courts should address it
And seeing this happen to men I know makes me never want to even attempt marriage
Hello
I'm krystian Grabowski from Poland.
I would like to thank you very much for your work.
I don't know English very well, but I watch all your films one by one. Your TH-cam videos help me deal with a difficult period.
I'm in the middle of a divorce.
My wife is mentally abusing our daughter. Uses parental alienation.
She also abused me during my marriage, but I didn't notice it. social isolation, guilt, emotional blackmail.
I understand all of this thanks to your films about archetypes.
Thanks again for your effort.
I knew I wasn't the only one. Had my daughter taken through a separation. It took me 18 months to get my daughter back with money, a good job, no criminal record, etc etc. Against a women who had several children taken previously by the state, but somehow I was always the bad guy.
DO NOT GET MARRIED IN USA.
So Sad to Say.
Not every female is genetically modified like that. Some of us genuinely care about the well-being of our children and could never do anything this.
@@vedapierce4176 most are, and all it takes is some shady lawyer saying "you should just lie about him in court to get the kids" and make her scared for her kids' well being financially and there's the easiest concoction for a lying whore if i've ever seen one
Why on earth did you get involved with "a woman who had several children taken previously by the state?" That seems like a poor judgement call.
@@quilope Yeah, Exactly!
Yes, that's excellent how it happens! You get accused, they show up, you leave in cuffs, your life will never be the same!! Accusations will ruin a man faster than the truth!!!!
Divorce was the worst time of my life and was treated like a second class citizen. 13 years of child support and then when it finally ended the kids ended up moving in with me.
THANK YOU so much for bringing up this topic. My husband's ex pulled the wool over everybody's eyes including All the lawyers and judges when going through his very high conflict divorce. She managed to 'win' everything including full custody and all the decisions making, alimony AND got her wealthy father to pay all her legal fees while portraying herself as a poor victim in the court. My husband has been so duped he wouldn't even let his lawyers question her in the court while she was very successfully creating this image of an 'unfit father' with anger management problems while she was the one officially diagnosed with bipolar during the early stages of counseling- we believe that this is narcissism but the counseling never went that far to diagnose further. It came out she was pregnant with her exes child during the divorce with whom she had been cheating my husband but he never brought that up in the court. She managed to hide everything too well until she got everything she wanted and then went around smearing him 'that even criminals in jail get joint custody and the fact she got full custody shows how evil my husband is' - while the reality is the Exact opposite. Yet this is how broken the so called family court system is! She went onto alienate my husband's child to the point he never sees her any more but he keeps paying for everything and even more. When we got married she did the most heinous things imaginable to destroy us. She blackmailed, started stalking me on social media, stopped working to claim more child support and did things to the child humanly not possible to alienate her- if we went to court the family court is known to dismiss cases like this in the mother's favor. She wanted to marry before my husband remarried after 8 years and now has two more children with another man and duped him to adopt her 2nd child making that father lose the child too and keep going around pretending to be the perfect mother with perfect family. Sadly my husband's daughter has become just like her and she has no moral compass to learn from. If we had a proper family court system, at least these children would have ended up less damaged.
This happens all the time. So many women lie in court to make the father look like a threat. I've been in the receiving end of this
Wow. 28 year old here. Do you recommend I stay away from marriage? I don't particularly want kids
It’s happening to me. Started last year. Being betrayed by the closest person, by the loved one is unimaginably painful.
She destroyed so much to gain so little.
And that’s barely beginning.
And so many times the courts don’t protect. See kids killed in San Fran church during supervised visitation yesterday. This is becoming a more regular occurrence. Even divorce programs have a section on fear of safety related to divorce. The cop just says domestic violence is common. Why do we accept this? Does Jordan Peterson also have a video on the violence women have to put up with in divorce and marriage that goes unchecked?
My little sister is a psychologist and i think shes been planting ideas that my father was much much worse to my mother than i believe he was. He was unfaithful but he's certainly not the monster that i've seen him slowly be painted as over the last 2 years or so.
@@putszntofreedom live together for a while and then decide. Marriage has benefits too.
This makes me think I will never be able to be intimate with another woman for fear of going through the system again
"Where victimhood is rewarded, responsibility never follows"
I’d like that quote if “never” was replaced with “rarely.” Saying never is a bit of a pessimistic exaggeration. Nevertheless, that’s a great point
@@theswullnasty3353 why? Evil never leans towards good
@@jarvislarson6864 Because even though victimhood is rewarded in today’s virtue signaling culture, there are still those who see the flaws in that lifestyle(like you & I). & there are still people who choose to take responsibility because it’s the right way to live, regardless of what society promotes.
So saying “never” is a bit of an exaggeration IMO.
DO NOT GET MARRIED IN USA.
So Sad to Say.
@@jamesbondoo81 let them write down contracts.. then their hands are bound to certain amount. Love and desire for people who dont vavule it make it hell. Its safer to pay whores and Play around then giving vavlue and Respekt. Its sad how high the rates are...
YES!!! A BIG like for this. Thanks, Dr. Peterson. I'm a pastoral counselor in Rochester, NY (licensed as a mental health counselor) and I love this talk with Greg Ellis. RIGHT ON about how social workers are trained, and the filth they get indoctrinated into. New York is vicious if you're a male counselor anywhere to the right of Che Guevera, and social workers rule the roost, they are in so deep in the government's back-pocket. YES, the McMartin Preschool trials and the Satanic Panic is the perfect example of this. Many blessings to you, and to Greg Ellis.
mental illness is now the norm and it hates and wants to kill mental health
S/O to Rochester NY
This cancer is manifesting in every part of government from the White House to the janitors at National Parks.
It is filling the void(s) of parents not continuing the love and teaching from their parents (some never know love & teaching). From religion to intact family structures being destroyed by Socialists worshipping the system of security government via envy & wrath.
Government becoming the gate keeper of “family” is dangerous and stupefying.
Pure evil.
Do you see how these Mr. nice guys invite these crazy women into their lives? Giving their seed of life to women who don’t deserve it.
@@Blue-hf7xt Thats not really the issue. The real issue is men should have the primary ownership of their children.
This is the "REAL" reason that marriage is at an all time low. To many of us have seen our fathers get destroyed. No matter how awful a mother is less then 20% of fathers get custody!!
This is what feminism has always been about. It was never “equality,” it is about female supremacy, all for the purpose of destabilizing society. Societies only thrive when masculine traits are the driving force, and the people in power want us to be weak
Yep, if my father would had been granted custody like he should have I probably wouldn't be so opposed to having a family. But experiencing what I did it's just too risky. Being alone and childless seems like a gift as opposed to divorced with children.
My Father didn’t see us 3 kids (10,8,7) for over 20 yrs until he was on his death bed.
My mother had custody from the divorce and the House. My Dad ended up living in a 1 bed flat and would see us every 2nd weekend and we loved spending time with him, he was great with us.
My mother found out he had a girlfriend and she was upset by that even though she was the one who filed for divorce, she made up some story and went for yet another court visit and we didn’t see him again for over 20yrs.
I told him we had no Ill will or bad feelings towards him and felt terribly sorry for what he went through.
He missed out on his 3 young children growing up into adults, our careers, his granddaughters.
He’s been dead now for 10yrs and I weep to think what he went through living all those years wondering what his kids were doing.
I was lucky when I was a child the court gave me the choice on who to live with when my parents divorced I went with my Dad and things were rough for awhile since he lost almost everything In the divorce, but he never bad mouthed her in front of me until I was an adult and had already disowned her after truly getting to know her more
@@bondy7564 this type of stuff is really sad. Glad to see you know the truth and don’t blame him for society’s evil, at the very least. This is destroying our souls and our societies
This interview made me cry, as I was/am in this situation as well. I am missing my son everyday but his mother has a stronghold over him. I will buy the book to support gags in distress. Thank you for sharing your story with us.
Pray to Jesus Christ my friend
This was a great talk, I'm happy to see Greg get some press, his story is heartbreaking and amazing with the lowest of lows and highest of highs, finding his place after rising from the depths of despair. I'm glad that Jordan talked to him and this is getting more attention, the degradation of our culture has been going on much longer than we realize, hidden, in the background, but now all that is coming to light, how bad things really are in the courts, the loss of the core principles upon which our culture was built is showing.
I hope that everyone takes a closer look at what our legal changes have wrought and how easy it is to corrupt apparently good intent. Tort reform might not be a bad idea to throw around, not to mention an over haul in how courts work. We need to get back to values like justice, truth, goodness, beauty, honesty, loyalty, etc. No society can survive without proper engagement in the virtues and values that we are all moved by.
Well done Jordan for putting this issue out there … the idea that some mothers can peddle mistruths and game the courts system to gain full custody is really a major topic….bravo
mental illness is now the norm and it hates and wants to kill mental health
People actually question why men are fleeing from marriage. It's incredible.
Ya that always gets to me too 👍
"The love of many will grow cold, and they will be without natural affection."
I am going thru this exact same faith right now in Germany, and I am trying my hardest here. All alone. The unbelievable twist is that I am actually a registered case of domestic violence, at one point from strangulation I gave up and waited for my death. My husband was asked to start the abuser program, he quit and filed for divorce.
My 14 years old son is manipulated by the father so much, he is breaking down mentally, and gain 35 in one year. He was a sporty healthy 14 years old before all these happened, fearless on his bike and doing the silliest tricks on ski. He gave in to the father’s manipulation, and gave statement to the family court that I abused him. I have never abused him. He became a ‘shut-in’.
My husband twisted the story to the family court, saying that my son locked himself in his room all days because he is scare of his mother, of his mother hitting him, scare for his life.
My husband prepared the ground for the divorce by going to my daughter’s school with many meetings with the school principal, all behind my band. I only find out this from the school principal’s statement written to the family court (September 2021) that the mother abused her children often, and he reported an incident where the mother had hurt the 16 years old daughter, bad bodily injury, bloody, and that it was witnessed and reported to him by the father and by the 14 years old brother. But this has NEVER happened.
My husband took the chance while I was visiting my family in California, and took the 12 years old youngest son to see a child psychologist. Told the psychologist all kind of lies of the mother abusing the child. For the 12 sessions, the goal of the child psychologist is to help this child work thru his trauma by accepting that he was abused by his mother. My son asked me to make them stop, he doesn’t want to go. But the child welfare services insisted the child need to finish his treatment. I am powerless to protect me kids.
Oh god. There is no justice. I am still in the middle of fighting this divorce case in Munich Germany.
The most painful is his tactics on parental alienation. My husband doesn’t understand that I might be the one who is suffering right now, but the children are the one who will pay the highest price. The children are to lost their connection to their mother, for life. There is nothing more valuable in life than a loving parent.
Does anyone has any advice? Or simply point out a resource.
Are there any friends or family members who can help by saying the truth about your relationship with the kids? Video, audio pictures, anything like that?
Contact a Domestic Violence Center. They have resources. Also (and I say this kindly from my own experience) look and be the best you can. If you look like a basket case you will be perceived as one.
Pray to God
I haven't seen my three daughters in over 10 years. The viciousness and determination to destroy family life and the young minds of our children I experienced from my partner, her friends, and the Family Law fraternity shocked me to my core. When I reached out to my perfect brothers and their families, I got lectured, and my close friends' help was usually based around "you're just going to have to get on with your life" advice. I eventually had a breakdown and ended up in a secure ward. My family had been dismantled, and when the perpetrators were finished and had what they wanted, they disappeared victoriously. Like any other vicious attack, this experience changed my character significantly. I can no longer allow anybody to get close to me without alarm bells going off and a type of self-preservation reaction kicking in. Watching this video brought tears to my eyes because I have had first-hand experience of this type of painful and damaging injustice. When will men be finally granted equality in these types of cases?
Wow! What a story man! Sorry for your heartbreak.
Tell me more about your ex, her manipulation along with her friends. I often hear “your wife’s friend with determine your marriage” how true is that ?
Also, what precipitated he divorce? How bad was the marriage before she filed ?
You have to tell people -
DO NOT GET MARRIED IN USA, or any WESTERN Country.
So Sad to Say.
This one hits home… havent seen my daughter for more than a decade.
So sorry, dude!
Fight for your right to see her!!
That's what you get for creating a child with a terrible woman and not fighting for full custody from the beginning. I'm willing to bet that you didn't even have a DNA test on "your" daughter to make sure she is even truly your daughter.
@@torachan23 that a lot of assumptions for someone you dont know.....since you are here have you ever read rule 6?
@@torachan23 wow, you must really know me to throw such hateful arguments. I’m so sorry life is so cruel for you you must try to make other’s a miserable one as well. I have been struggling for my life with 4 chronic illnesses. In 2013 I was given 3 months to live. Lost support from State, friends and family. Today I try to survive as best as possible. So yeah, continue to judge.
@@17millionfuckoffs thank you
Finally Peterson talks about corrupt family court system in detail.
I’ve been lucky with my wife but many of my friends, acquaintances etc. have been beaten down by the system. No wonder suicide in men is through the roof. Thanks for covering this important topic.
You are touching on something so close to home, so imminent in my life and I’m sure many others. Mine was quite different as it didn’t have to do with this type of issue but a 10 year embezzlement case in a charity funded by our friends, family, church, and employers. I had overwhelming evidence - including voice recordings and papers from the banks themselves as to my non-involvement but yet once the damage is done - it’s DONE. I’ve never recovered and am still dealing with it all. The costs go well beyond attorneys fees. I don’t believe all women are evil of course but I do believe that men have an overwhelming disadvantage in the court system as it pertains to divorce and fair trials. This needs MUCH MORE light shed on it.
end results of feminism
My mom put my dad into jail (I was 14), claimed domestic violence, lied to police after inflicting wounds to herself (I was there). After 2 years of courts, my mom admitted to lying, told judge “she was traumatised” because I told her I will never have a relationship with her if she doesn’t stop this hell. She destroyed my dad & herself. A decade later, she’s miserable and he’s moved on with a wonderful new wife. The system depleted my parents savings, divorce cost was too high. Mom says she was played by the state. Lol. Still a victim.
mental illness is now the norm and it hates and wants to kill mental health
I think you're the perfect person to ask. We don't always know how someone can hurt you or if they are planning on hurting you. From your experience, is there anything that people can do to protect themselves and should a false allegation take place, what is likely the best thing we can do to maintain a healthy and strong relationship with our friends and family? - sincerely, guys afraid of false allegations
@@GomersPile01Troll
@@GomersPile01 this is narrow minded thinking. There are degrees of involvement. You likely have a smartphone which has batteries in which the minerals where mined buy kids in developing African countries. Your purchase directly enables and incentive the people and countries allowing and promoting child slavery. Are you just as bad as them because you know yet haven't done anything about it?
She may have been kept in the dark, felt powerless or didn't know what to do and even if she knew exactly what was happening and didn't do anything about it(which isn't good), that still doesn't make it as bad a the person actually doing something evil.
Just as you're not as bad as the African business owner enabling child labor even though you both are benefiting and actively doing things that incentivices it's continuance.
@@GomersPile01 I wonder, are you unemployed and getting checks from the government or from childrenbux? I am asking since you clearly have so much time in your hands to make an account pretending to be a male.
When my brother was going through a divorce his wife's lawyers were simply stirring things up to cause trouble with every letter they sent costing her i.e. my brother, a fortune. When he explained to her that these lawyers of her's would end up walking away with half of the money they had saved up she got rid of them and found less aggressive lawyers. That doesn't happen very often. He also told her that he would be there for her and the kids years after these agressive lawyers had forgotten her name but that if she kept them on out of spite she could forget him helping her out in future as he would rather go unemployed than pay for any court judgements made because of their actions. It was all settled out of court relatively amicably after that.
Unfortunately... Sometimes when people paint you as "The Bad Guy", you have to remind them, how bad you could actually be. I think there's some saying about, the dangers of not loving a child within a tribe. Where if you don't, they just might burn the entire tribe, just to feel that warmth? I can't remember how it goes exactly, but your comment reminds me of it...
Too much kindness and long suffering, can actually condone and perpetuate abuse. Perhaps we've come to the end of the age of "Tolerance"... We need a new ideal.
@@j.enantiodromia3940 “The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth”
@@mandra3768 That's it! Thank you! :)
Do you know where it comes from/who said it?
@@j.enantiodromia3940 some say it’s African proverb, but it’s rather not, source is unknown.
@@mandra3768 I've also heard that, but I also haven't yet heard of a solid source. Thought I'd ask though. Cheers!
Going through all of this right now. My ex filed divorce, and when I wouldn’t agree to just move out, she filed a restraining order to have the sheriff escort me off my own property that I pay for as my daughter watched. Now she’s lying in court making crazy claims and I am learning the hard way that I am presumed guilty before innocent and now spent $39k defending this and we only just got started.
Good luck to you… One man wrote on here giving advice to learn the law and represent yourself. He said it took him a year to study while was representing himself through the courts. Good luck
Not an unheard of story. Keep watching JP. Keep fighting. Educate yourself, self represent if all else fails... Join a support group, free knowledge is out there.
Absolutely horrific story. Can’t imagine what it would be like to loose your children like that. So many men, my heart goes out to you all.
My spouse did exactly the same thing to me. Had me arrested for abuse and I've never even raised my hand or voice ever. She got full custody and moved my son as far away as she could move and sued me for $300 a week. I no longer can keep up with the payments, the government took my license to drive and my life has been really trying for the past 13 years. All because she wanted her own family and to answer to no one. She got help from DHHS and they put me through the full gamut of court. It really fucked my life. I no longer will be alone with a woman especially in the work place. You always have to have a third person present or these women will crush you.
I’m sorry to hear man! Why do you think she went and did that ? That’s seems like such an escalation. Could you have seen it coming from her?
Why?
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That's why!
This may have another side of the coin.
I can believe you had a mountain of feelings to work through. Good luck for you 😔👊🙏❤
consider your self lucky I got child support payments of $10,000 a month you do the math and my business is being a dog groomer
I experienced accusations of domestic abuse when after 20 years my wife decided she wanted a divorce.
The kids ended up on Child Protection for 2 years.
I'd say my wife has been 'indoctrinated' into
'modern day feminism'
She was advised what to do.
The Domestic Abuse team have "We Help End Relationships" on the home page of their website.
The social workers teachers(still do) and health workers treated me like shit.
The police started harassing me while I was driving.
In the UK you can get Legal Aid if your a victim of domestic abuse.
She didn't manage to secure Legal Aid.
It was probably the worst time of my life..I was already struggling.
The divorce is now nearly complete.
My advice is to men being accused is to walk away.
Men shouldn't get married in western countries in the first place.
@Big Muff my friend, I have been through it. Not only false accusations, but the fact my bipolar first ex was assaulting me and abusing our two daughters, and was rewarded for it. I was punished for what she did. Mind you I am not a small, weak, timid man, I am a heavily muscled combat veteran who can seriously injure people easily with just my hands. So the cops would always ask if I touched her, and never cared that she had stabbed me or hit me with something. I have a divot in the back of my skull from a coffee mug she hurled at me. It was a relief when she left..
I got to see my kids a total of 12 days over the next 7 years starting in 2001. TWELVE DAYS in seven years. During that time they were garnishing 71% of my gross pay, and the state helped her hide the kids from me when I came home on leave to see them. It would take me months to save up enough money to drive 1500miles home, or I would catch a military plane to a nearby base and have my parents pick me up. I lived in my car, I ate once a day. I had $100a month to live on and nobody cared. Still nobody cares. I'm male, why would they?
The second one cheated, she felt guilty so she falsely accused me, got a restraining order, and concocted a scheme with her boyfriend who worked for the local sheriff as an EMT. They fired him two weeks later because he is a worthless pos, but thats irrelevant to this. The prosecutor did everything she could to fuck me over, and I ended up sitting in jail for 15 days over something I could not physically have done. Also had to pay them $3000. Compared to the first I got off light.
That was in 2013, the first ex was paid off in 2015. Both of my kids left their mother and moved 1000 miles away to where I live, to get away from her. They wanted to live with me, but the state would not allow it, saying veterans are dangerous and military men can get killed at any time, so they are unfit parents. A judge who was a Marine said that. Fuck that guy. Your kids will come around eventually when they realize you are not the crazy one. Just don't let what their mother does affect you around your kids. Don't get mad at her when they are around.
While the 1st ex is addicted to oxy, turns 50 next year, weighs 300lbs, her second husband finally had enough and left as she was controlling and abusing him as well.... the 2nd ex turns 40 in August, her 'soulmate' left her after 5 years leeching from her father, because neither of them could keep a job. She likes to call the state police when she sees me in public. Just because she sees me.
I lost my home with both of those, lived in cars and on friends couches. It 2013, two weeks after the divorce was final, I closed on 13 acres of woodland. I sold some old car parts, and my parents gave me a couple grand for the down payment. In 2015 when the first ex was paid off, I put all of that cash towards building my home and a shop on my land. I built a 32x48x12 shop, 5" thick concrete floor, and a lift to work on my old cars.
The only thing I managed to keep from the first divorce was a bunch of old rusty cars that she did not want, because they were not shiny. The 2nd ex knew if she went after the cars or my military compensation, she would get nothing, but have to clean up after the massive fire and pick up chunks of my gray matter. So she left me alone.
In February 2021 I paid off my mortgage and the building loans I took out. I am now living debt free, and no bank nor female can take it from me. I can build my cars without having to worry about my money going to someone who does not deserve it, or who mistreats me.
I live alone in the woods with two Siberian Huskies, and I drive cool vehicles all summer. I will be 53 years old here soon, and life is good now. I busted my ass to make it good. I was 32 when the first ex financially destroyed me. 44 when the second one had me thrown in jail for things I did not do. Now less than ten years later I am doing better than both of them, and better than I ever did with them in my life.
I do what I want, when I want. If I want to buy a new expensive engine or another car, I just go get it since I have money in the bank for the first time since 1991. I don't have to concern myself with making sure someone else is taken care of. My daughters are 25 and 27, they are on their own and doing good considering the nightmare their mother put them through.
Life gets better man. It takes a while to get out from under what the state does to us, but eventually we are free and what we earn goes to us.... not them. Do yourself a favor, don't be stupid like I was and never marry again. I won't let them live here either. I still date on occasion, but they get zero commitment from me. As it happens rebuilding severely rusted old GTOs is vastly less expensive than a female in my life.
For the first time in my life... I am happy with it. Life is good. So hang in there and don't do anything stupid. Walk away, rebuild your life, and never look back. There is nothing there for you.
@Amanda.J.Carver... not in Maryland.
Womyn should be loved and admired from a safe distance. A VERY safe distance.
@Amanda.J.Carver... not in Nebraska either.
I had exactly this happen to me
What made mine 10x worse, is that, when abuse charges was being disproved, she simply laid molestation charges and then when that wasn’t provable or too vague, she laid rape charges..
My world with my daughters has been destroyed!
WTF are it with woman today!?
Do they not realise how they are destroying their children!!??
Please eliminate the word "destroyed" from your internal narrative concerning your world with those girls, Brother.
Put your finger on your neck over your artery.
Is there a pulse?
Are those YOUR daughters?
YES + YES = You have yet to lose a fight important enough to give it YOUR ALL.
Defeatist thoughts will kill you dead where you stand, while your lungs attempt to feed something (still beating away) with life sustaining oxygen...
...a something that YOU allowed to effectively die off.
This may sound harsh, but I swear to you it comes from a loving place of DEEP understanding.
Before my first military deployment, my Father (who became a Policeman at 22 years old, immediately after his own Vietnam War centric 4 year Enlistment was complete (68-72)) gave parting words to me after I'd said my Single Father's "goodbye, but ONLY for now" to my 7 year old boy (who would be 9 before I returned from that tour).
He and I have a terribly strained relationship due to his own HORRIBLE divorce from my mother (1984) that my sister and I endured in the least fairly dealt out dogshit soup sandwich thawe were forced to absorb.
But I will never forget his parting command to me.
A direct order, in fact.
*****
"Stay safe as long as you can, Son, but never forget these Men here leaving with you. You have a job to do. It can potentially ask for everything...just like mine. We both volunteered for these uniforms, and now others are looking to YOU to DO that job...
...so go DO your Duty the very BEST you are capable of.
But if it comes down to a point where it requires your very last bit inside you, and that isn't enough to end that fight, I want you to look at my Grandson right fucking NOW, and remember ALWAYS just exactly who HIS Father IS...
...and remember who MY SON is.
If we have to get a knock on our door telling us 'That Day" has come ... promise us both one thing ...
... promise that the very last memory the man who took MY SON away from MY GRANDSON will remember for the rest of HIS life will be your finger popping into his eye socket and your fingernail scratching his fucking brain.
ANYTHING LESS is an unacceptable reason for this boy not to see his FATHER again...because you are going to do whatever you have to do, but what you WILL NOT do ...
... is fucking QUIT.
If you start to forget that, you need to look down and read that nametape on this uniform.
You can't spell 'quitter' with those letters."
*****
Those type words were uncommon coming from him, and I knew it clear as day as he said them. Warrior to Warrior. And I promised both of the men that shared that name with me EXACTLY THAT, rig
I meant that promise.
I retired in early 2020.
I never withdrew that promise...it still stands to this day.
Now, I don't know you from Adam, but what I DO know is that you are a FATHER, just as I am.
So listen to ME right now:
I am NOT a better Man than you are.
I don't care if it takes you 20+ IMPOSSIBLY HARD years from THIS day forward.
SO BE IT.
With God as my witness, your Daughters will not forget a FATHER that took the word "Quit" out of his dictionary and torched that bastard of a word and made as sure it burned as completely as Cortez watched his own Ships torch away.
I already used way too many words here, so I'll assume you hear and understand why I say what I said...and I'll shut my pie hole.
Sorry to hear you went through that man, God bless you brother.
When it's a wife/partner, it hurts the heart. But with children it rips out your soul - An unimaginable level of pain, a transformation from a will to live to willing death upon oneself, a darkness so profound the mind seriously considers it a dream whilst incapable of sleep.
Imagine the unconditional love you have for your children. Now try to imagine an emotional pain of that same caliber.
I have been to hell. Never give up and seek to make the world better; it's the only way you get out.
Having a brother who went through this sort of malicious, disgusting false allegations by his ex I can empathise with what he went through. I am of the EXTREMELY STRONG opinion that if a partner, whether it be male or female, if they make false accusations against their partner out of malicious intent, to keep them away from their children, whatever, it doesn't matter. If you lie about that person & cause them as much harm as you do then you should spend a minimum of 10yrs behind bars. End of story. There needs to be consequences for these bitches that lie & destroy lives just because they can
Agreed. Why can't they be prosecuted for libel?
It's crazy. It's the only court where lying will not result in criminal proceedings, and considering the damage done to real people, it's unconscionable.
@@GomersPile01 Troll.
I disagree. 10 years behind bars is weak sauce. For the heinous act of lying about another human being having their children taken away and becoming destitute or close to it the only reasonable response is the death penalty.
@Mrs Winston Smith ???? What does that even mean
Tom Leykis has been talking about this for DECADES. This will never be me! I survived this male hating society with no wife, no kids, NO DEBT, no court dates, no alimony, no child support, no emotional abuse, no psychological abuse, no drama, no yelling screaming and crying, no "MAN CAVE"(my entire home, garage, and yard is my man cave), no endless bs... know financial independence, know peace, know contentment, KNOW SOLITUDE, know yourself. HAPPILY SINGLE. I made it without being forced to give away everything I've worked for to women, or worse her and some other man's children. Ef that noise. Woooooo AND whew. Thank you Dad! Blow Me Up Tom
Happy for you. But not the solution. Your solution hands the reigns and future of humanity over to degenerates who incompetently have children, does it not?
@@maxtroy The next generation isn't our problem, and stopped being our problem when men were evicted from the family. Let it burn. If you don't like that, then do something about it.
@Psellus If breeding is all that matters, then just pump & dump every woman you can.
@Psellus My genes do not belong to me, nor do yours belong to you. You are the way your genes manifest. Don't be a puppet of your genes, go be a man. Not many actually will.
Indeed it does ...nicely pointed out
Good grief, this interview gave me PTSD remembering my divorce. It is a soul crushing experience.