For the 250L I'd just add a larger tank and you're waxed. The thing I like about the L is that there are less parts to break when you put it down eventually. The rally has a lot more parts to replace and its parts are more scarce which translates into money
Great crf content there lads 👍🏻 they're so similar and totally capable, if you are thinking about buying one of them, get the one you like the look of the most cause be honest to yourself thats the most important part 😉 (Rally looks so badass with the bash plate!!)
Great video guys- You really hit on all the important points. Worth noting on the rally all your navigation is on the frame of the bike and off the handlebars also with the wind protection of the rally it keeps the water off you doing big water crossings. Happy Riding mates! Allan So Cal USA
You actually went and did it, I can’t tell you how much I appreciate this video and your input. Thanks and well done! For what’s worth, I’m going for the Rally!
Hey Rosario, that's awesome, I am sure you will love it. Glad you like the content🤙 would love to hear how you get on with it when you get one, ride safe buddy 😎
I owned both for 6 months (at the same time…) Kept the Rally (but secretly regret it) … Surprisingly how similar, yet different they are.. Yes the L turns in faster and is a better trail bike especially in knarly stuff, but the rally is good on long flowing gravel roads we get in QLD.. and is planted on the road, so can be a goo dish road bike, for riding with street riding buddies… Agree with everything you said.. The Rally I kept only because it had the CBR300R engine in it.. But when I had both bikes -I’d take the 250L 7 times out of 10. But then I am 168cm and 70KG with gear - so the L would naturally fit me better…
Both bikes are very similar to be honest, Greg. I'm 6“1 and the rally fits me well, but I also enjoy riding Jamie's L. If you have a chance, go and jump on both mate 👍🏻
the thing I dont like about the rally is the drunk spiderman headlight and the hard street bike plastics they used instead of the dirt bike plastic of the L
When you’re cruis’n home at speed and it’s gettin dark n cold out, you will LOVE having the wind protection and screen and you will care less about the openness like the L. Absolutely love my 250 Rally!!
L owner here. I found one in my area that a little over 9,000 kms and virtually no signs of wear. It came with a bash plate and Acerbis handguards. IMHO you cant go wrong with either one. Stellar bikes. Sure, a 300L would be nice, or a rally version of either one, but the 250L was so cheap i just had to :). Zero regrets.
Crf250, 300 is more maneuverable fit smaller riders ,but suspension is poor,pavement road use will get blown around Crf 250 ,300 rally is less maneuverable off road but takes bumps better, and it won't get pushed around on pavement. The rally Also holds up better when dropped or hit rocks off road . All the crf 25,0, 300 will be obsolete when yamaha releases a 300cc dual purpose.
Hey Mac, it's a good question as they are both in essence the same bike. If you are a good engineer this could probably be done in theory but would take a lot of effort and is probably easier to just swap out the bike in all honesty. What you can do is modify the 250l pretty well with mini fairings/screens/towers to achieve a similar result which works well 👍
Thanks for video mate! Writing you from Turkey. Sure to say that there is a serious number of crf250 lover here, hope they are also watching your videos! I own a Rally and i love both versions. Stay safe
Another great video chaps , this is my question of the moment ...which one to get. Like you say I'll ride them both and see how they feel. Keep up the brilliant work 👍
@@lightweightadv I found a one year old 300l with 1100 miles , front and rear suspension already upgraded , also a full FMF exhaust....very happy boy , it's great 👍
Both of your 250s are great bikes. But if you wanted new you would have to go with the 300L and 300Rally. What do you think about those bikes with the info that is out there so far? Cheers from USA
Hey Allan, yeah, the original tank in Europe at least is metal on the L. Regulations ensured this a few years back now. The bike will still pass an MOT with an aftermarket plastic tank though 😎
@@lightweightadv any plans of doing the Scottish coast 500 with some wild camping?? I'm on south coast but hoping to do the 500 next June - August just can't decide on tyres for the journey as its like a 14hr ride up there...
Thanks for the comparison vid. I know they are discontinued for the 300 so I won't knock you for that. I have a 300 rally on its way this month. I have watched and learned a lot from TH-cam. The Covid really has made a mess of things. The after market is slow to catch up to the new model changes across the board. When funds allow,and time on the seat to know what I want,the parts should be available to truly make it mine. I really like the looks of those bash plates on your bikes. The coverage looks exceptional.
It took 3 months, but in October 2021 I found a used CRF250L. New 300's were not available anywhere in the northeast USA. I'm pretty happy with the 250, but would really like the power of the 450.
@@lightweightadv unfortunately not a proper ride. A quick escort of a mate to his MOT but besides that it’s real life to content with. Can I give back my adult card please? You guys up to much?
The first couple of minutes with added background music sucked. I can turn on my radio if I want music, I just want to hear what you're saying without distraction. At 7:00 it was bearable, but totally unnecessary. Around the 12:00 mark I almost dove out the window! My 2020 CRF250L is pretty good for what it's made for, I just wish it had more grunt from 2000 to 5000 RPM.
Its been a tough decision and I was thinking the rally for a long time because of the LED headlight and the idea of being caught out in low light, they do an LED headlight version of the L in asia so a total loss as to why they didnt spec that on the one we get, but in the end its the L I have decided on and going to see one this weekend if they still have it in stock (only 1 left when I called earlier in the week), the tank was a concern but since learned you can get larger aftermarket ones if I find it to be a problem
Yeah, weighing up each small aspect is important. My biggest advice is sit on both. They feel different, aside from the little bits here and there, they just ride fractionally different too.
You guys are making 250L content when everyone is clammering for 300L's and 300L content. I don't know what your goals are for the channel, but you'll have much more growth doing 300L content than 250L. I subscribe to a lot of motorcycle and adventuring channels ... Some huge, some big, some tiny. The bigger channels tend to have something in common ... They seem to catch their 'big break', in other words a huge spurt in channel growth, for having covered a particular bike that people were very interested in at the time and churned out all their content surrounding that model ... Like what you're doing for the 250L. You can see these 'successful' channels try to repeat the same trick when another hot new bike (within the channel's remit) comes on the market. I realise you most likely think your channel is 'bike agnostic', given the name of the channel, but what people are really here for is to learn about the bikes since there's not much adventuring taking place. If the goal of the channel really is 'bike agnostic', and all about adventuring ... Well, it's a similar situation ... You're not doing any adventuring. Just some green Laning in and around your locality ... The way I see it, in terms of channel development ... You should either replace your bikes with 300L's or stick with the bikes you've got but go on some actual adventures. On the other hand, you might not be interested in channel development at all ... In which case, please ignore my thoughts on this and carry on. I suspect you do want to develop the channel though ... In which case I think you've got what it takes to curate a successful channel and create regular content, but you've got to make your content more relevant (300L) or more substantive (proper adventures). I realise, of course, that in the context of Covid-19 it isn't as easy as it once was to just go trekking around, say, Europe (since it's in your back yard) ... Nevertheless, what I would consider the 'bona fide' adventure channels are pulling it off one way or the other. Anyway, I'd like to see you chaps succeed. I think you've got the right sensibilities for it.
For the 250L I'd just add a larger tank and you're waxed. The thing I like about the L is that there are less parts to break when you put it down eventually. The rally has a lot more parts to replace and its parts are more scarce which translates into money
Great crf content there lads 👍🏻 they're so similar and totally capable, if you are thinking about buying one of them, get the one you like the look of the most cause be honest to yourself thats the most important part 😉 (Rally looks so badass with the bash plate!!)
Baja Workx windscreen for 250 L as well Fatbar with risers... all your problems solved.
For mileage - enduristan bags with the 2x1.5L flasks on 🤗
or the acerbis/ILS tank instead of the flasks.
Mega useful. When are you comparing the 300s? 😬
Great video guys- You really hit on all the important points. Worth noting on the rally all your navigation is on the frame of the bike and off the handlebars also with the wind protection of the rally it keeps the water off you doing big water crossings. Happy Riding mates! Allan So Cal USA
The Rally is a pain in the bum when it comes to cleaning, to do it properly I have to remove all my panels.
Certainly was, until I cut most of the fairing away 😁
I love the CRF Rally and how it looks!! do you think it´s possible to take the wife for a coffee ;) ? have you tried? cheers
You actually went and did it, I can’t tell you how much I appreciate this video and your input. Thanks and well done! For what’s worth, I’m going for the Rally!
It would be helpful if you included your heights when comparing how each bike fits you, cheers!
Greetings,
Made up my mind, buying the 300L.
I really appreciated all your videos.🇺🇸🎉🍾🇺🇸
Hey Rosario, that's awesome, I am sure you will love it. Glad you like the content🤙 would love to hear how you get on with it when you get one, ride safe buddy 😎
I owned both for 6 months (at the same time…) Kept the Rally (but secretly regret it) … Surprisingly how similar, yet different they are.. Yes the L turns in faster and is a better trail bike especially in knarly stuff, but the rally is good on long flowing gravel roads we get in QLD.. and is planted on the road, so can be a goo dish road bike, for riding with street riding buddies… Agree with everything you said.. The Rally I kept only because it had the CBR300R engine in it.. But when I had both bikes -I’d take the 250L 7 times out of 10. But then I am 168cm and 70KG with gear - so the L would naturally fit me better…
I’m a beginner at 6’3 200/lbs would the Rally suit me better due to my height you think?
Both bikes are very similar to be honest, Greg. I'm 6“1 and the rally fits me well, but I also enjoy riding Jamie's L. If you have a chance, go and jump on both mate 👍🏻
the thing I dont like about the rally is the drunk spiderman headlight and the hard street bike plastics they used instead of the dirt bike plastic of the L
Hey Jeff, thanks for the comment. The plastics got cut on my rally fir that very reason. The headlight however is excellent (looks aside).
When you’re cruis’n home at speed and it’s gettin dark n cold out, you will LOVE having the wind protection and screen and you will care less about the openness like the L. Absolutely love my 250 Rally!!
The L, more flickable than a bogey in double maths!
CRF250L was my choice over the rally because less fairings, less breakable things.
L owner here. I found one in my area that a little over 9,000 kms and virtually no signs of wear. It came with a bash plate and Acerbis handguards.
IMHO you cant go wrong with either one. Stellar bikes. Sure, a 300L would be nice, or a rally version of either one, but the 250L was so cheap i just had to :). Zero regrets.
Enjoy it man 😎
Sorry Jamie the rally has it beat on looks -handedly. Just buying -the rally for its looks as good enough that’s a Dakar “racer” baby!!
I like your skid plates can you send me the link for it. Thx
Brilliant work gentlemen, clearly one of the better channels on You Tube covering off road biking 👏🙏🏴😎
Thanks Paulo, a great complement 👊🏻😎
Crf250, 300 is more maneuverable fit smaller riders ,but suspension is poor,pavement road use will get blown around
Crf 250 ,300 rally is less maneuverable off road but takes bumps better, and it won't get pushed around on pavement. The rally Also holds up better when dropped or hit rocks off road .
All the crf 25,0, 300 will be obsolete when yamaha releases a 300cc dual purpose.
is 250Rally headlamp can be fitted to 250L, or can 250L be converted to 250rally?
Hey Mac, it's a good question as they are both in essence the same bike. If you are a good engineer this could probably be done in theory but would take a lot of effort and is probably easier to just swap out the bike in all honesty. What you can do is modify the 250l pretty well with mini fairings/screens/towers to achieve a similar result which works well 👍
@@lightweightadv thanks for the advice
Thanks for video mate! Writing you from Turkey. Sure to say that there is a serious number of crf250 lover here, hope they are also watching your videos! I own a Rally and i love both versions. Stay safe
Another great video chaps , this is my question of the moment ...which one to get.
Like you say I'll ride them both and see how they feel. Keep up the brilliant work 👍
Thanks mate, definitely the best thing to do, let us know what you go for in the end 👍
@@lightweightadv I found a one year old 300l with 1100 miles , front and rear suspension already upgraded , also a full FMF exhaust....very happy boy , it's great 👍
Ah nice, sounds awesome, happy trails buddy 😎
Both of your 250s are great bikes. But if you wanted new you would have to go with the 300L and 300Rally. What do you think about those bikes with the info that is out there so far? Cheers from USA
Great comparison and discussion. Thank you! Looking forward to getting a used CRF 250 Rally on Monday.
Nice one, they're a great bike 👌🏻
Did you end up getting the Rally?
2017 Rally...great little bike. I've been on many adventures on mine in all kinds of terrain. 👍
Wonder why the L has a plastic tank and the rally has a metal one. What are your thoughts? Big fan of the channel- Allan
The L has a metal tank
Hey Allan, yeah, the original tank in Europe at least is metal on the L. Regulations ensured this a few years back now. The bike will still pass an MOT with an aftermarket plastic tank though 😎
Another top video, your chemistry is great... Really hope you guys are around for many a year to come
@@lightweightadv any plans of doing the Scottish coast 500 with some wild camping??
I'm on south coast but hoping to do the 500 next June - August just can't decide on tyres for the journey as its like a 14hr ride up there...
the bromance is on point.
Team L 💪🏼
Another great video! 😃
You are riding the Viking way. Are you local to Lincoln?
Hi NK, yes, we're not far away!
@@lightweightadv Nice one.....if you are out there and find an overweight man face down in the mud with a CCM on top of him then it's most likely me👍
Haha we will keep an eye out and give you a wave 😂 ride safe buddy 😎
Thanks for the comparison vid. I know they are discontinued for the 300 so I won't knock you for that. I have a 300 rally on its way this month. I have watched and learned a lot from TH-cam. The Covid really has made a mess of things. The after market is slow to catch up to the new model changes across the board. When funds allow,and time on the seat to know what I want,the parts should be available to truly make it mine. I really like the looks of those bash plates on your bikes. The coverage looks exceptional.
It took 3 months, but in October 2021 I found a used CRF250L. New 300's were not available anywhere in the northeast USA. I'm pretty happy with the 250, but would really like the power of the 450.
Thx mate! Happy Journeys!!
I was in the boat of l or rally. And it was as simple as the navmount that swayed me. Bigger tank was a bonus 👍🏾. Great video as always chaps.
@@lightweightadv unfortunately not a proper ride. A quick escort of a mate to his MOT but besides that it’s real life to content with. Can I give back my adult card please? You guys up to much?
Great video, really like it
Oh yeah, +1 team rally
Notice they never take em into town or the Freeway when comparing them ...there is no comparison then.
Hey Joe, many of our videos show them on the motorway and in the town. Both great bikes 😎👌🏻
@@lightweightadv Oh well ok then, i'm new to watching your guys stuff, I have the rally myself .
Good video boys.
Am sure there will be one soon lol. Am going to see about getting you together with that guy with the 300 for comparison
The first couple of minutes with added background music sucked. I can turn on my radio if I want music, I just want to hear what you're saying without distraction. At 7:00 it was bearable, but totally unnecessary. Around the 12:00 mark I almost dove out the window!
My 2020 CRF250L is pretty good for what it's made for, I just wish it had more grunt from 2000 to 5000 RPM.
Its been a tough decision and I was thinking the rally for a long time because of the LED headlight and the idea of being caught out in low light, they do an LED headlight version of the L in asia so a total loss as to why they didnt spec that on the one we get, but in the end its the L I have decided on and going to see one this weekend if they still have it in stock (only 1 left when I called earlier in the week), the tank was a concern but since learned you can get larger aftermarket ones if I find it to be a problem
Yeah, weighing up each small aspect is important. My biggest advice is sit on both. They feel different, aside from the little bits here and there, they just ride fractionally different too.
You guys are making 250L content when everyone is clammering for 300L's and 300L content.
I don't know what your goals are for the channel, but you'll have much more growth doing 300L content than 250L.
I subscribe to a lot of motorcycle and adventuring channels ... Some huge, some big, some tiny. The bigger channels tend to have something in common ... They seem to catch their 'big break', in other words a huge spurt in channel growth, for having covered a particular bike that people were very interested in at the time and churned out all their content surrounding that model ... Like what you're doing for the 250L.
You can see these 'successful' channels try to repeat the same trick when another hot new bike (within the channel's remit) comes on the market.
I realise you most likely think your channel is 'bike agnostic', given the name of the channel, but what people are really here for is to learn about the bikes since there's not much adventuring taking place.
If the goal of the channel really is 'bike agnostic', and all about adventuring ... Well, it's a similar situation ... You're not doing any adventuring. Just some green Laning in and around your locality ...
The way I see it, in terms of channel development ... You should either replace your bikes with 300L's or stick with the bikes you've got but go on some actual adventures.
On the other hand, you might not be interested in channel development at all ... In which case, please ignore my thoughts on this and carry on. I suspect you do want to develop the channel though ... In which case I think you've got what it takes to curate a successful channel and create regular content, but you've got to make your content more relevant (300L) or more substantive (proper adventures).
I realise, of course, that in the context of Covid-19 it isn't as easy as it once was to just go trekking around, say, Europe (since it's in your back yard) ... Nevertheless, what I would consider the 'bona fide' adventure channels are pulling it off one way or the other.
Anyway, I'd like to see you chaps succeed. I think you've got the right sensibilities for it.
nah lots of ppl in the used bike market like me still want to see 250 comparisons!