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- Took awhile to come out but it's finally here. This video is me explaining why Kenny in telltales the walking dead is the best flawed character in the series.
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"she knew the baby was in the car she could just say it. She just wanted to fight, clem"
He's goddamn right about jane
I’ll always choose kenny but hear me out, Jane was trying to show clem how dangerous kenny is…but pretending to loose a baby in a zombie apocalypse would make anyone flip their shit…
@@Spencerwithahat ikr? Especially for someone who just lost everything. His new love, Friends, and his eye. I mean c'mon :/
@@l_64c yeah man was going through it and instead of provoking it to the point of no return (for Jane at least) she should’ve just left to be on her own…where she kills herself anyways
i had to kill kenny even know i love him but the way lee raised clem and the way i made my choices i couldnt let he kill a "innocent" person like i already knew jane was lying about the baby but still isnt reasonable to kill someone and i choose to leave jane too so i was full lonewolf in the end
ps: i dont think kenny was so crazy and psychopath he would never hurt clem or any one he loved he was just dumb and angry because of his past
@ I think he was angry at the thought someone killing or leaving a baby…keenly thought she was a baby killer that’s why he was so fed up
There's a line in ep 5 that Kenny said where the group witnessed a suicidal couple on bed:
"What's heartbreaking is not giving yourself a chance, it's what Katjaa did... You don't just end it because it's hard. You stick it out and help the folk you care about.".
These Kenny's line touch my heart. Despite after Katjaa and Duck death, most people would choose to suicide if they are lost hope or all their love one dead but Kenny still choose to stay alive which made me madly respect him.
That line went really hard. He says "I forgive her but that doesn't make it right."
Kenny does say that, but honestly if you had Ben alive at that point then this quote doesn't really matter all too much. Kenny says that, and then not two minutes later does he decide to give up on the chase for Clem because he suddenly felt bad for Ben and decided to put him out of his misery even though he had every opportunity to dispose of him and then head back up the roof with Lee. I think Kenny was full of shit when he said that, he internally gave up but he couldn't say that outright while in that apartment with the dead couple, so he explained it in a way he knew best.
Does that mean you don't respect suicidal people or you're just happy Kenny continued on?
@@Xenorvya I respect suicidal people, we all have bad ideas and impulses, I don't respect people who go through with it.
@@BevvRatBites Interesting mindset.
Kenny deserved to have a “cool” death he didn’t deserve to die in a mf CAR ACCIDENT imagine if Lee just got ran over by a car at the end of the first game
LMAAO idk why that lee comment was so funny
agree. he was a super major character and his death was genuinely vile and incredibly cheap. but s3's deaths are cheap shtick on a constant (ex. ava, im not going to say jane because her death was super well suited for her character imo) so im not surprised just SUPER disappointed
i think there are a lot of reasons why it was so bad. it was meant to illustrate how kenny cared for clem and aj til his last breath, but it was cheap and it felt forced. having him not die at all and making sure hes distanced from clem and aj instead in some other waywould be the better option, or having him die in a way where he lived initially but both him and the player slowly began to realise that he wasn't going to live the paralysation he endured. he would be too weak to defend himself or clem and aj and he would realise they need to find more safety. kennys death scene was extremely fast paced and cheap and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth
theres a lot of reasons but i dont want to go on a tirade about it
@@italiannoodle2499 TRUE.
That made me think of the girl getting hit by the bus in final destination lol
@@broncored To be honest giving Kenny an honorable death wouldnt be that hard. The writers were just extremely lazy. Kenny is a family man who would fight tooth and nail for his loved ones. So you know that the most fitting death for him would be having a last stand. Lets say Kenny and Clem get ambushed by bandits which results in them swerving off the road into a ditch. They run into the woods where Kenny tells Clem to take AJ and that he will buy them some time due to having an injury. Bam you have a character fitting death wasnt even that hard.
I still think the best, most theatrical ending is staying at Wellington. Kenny’s speech to try to get Clem to stay is heartbreaking.
Until the camp gets raided like every walking dead camp.
@@Kingdom850 Honestly, I like to just forget season 3 and 4 ever happened. The story as a whole is better if it just ends at 2.
That's my personal favorite ending to season 2. Makes sense considering a huge part of season 2 is about getting to Wellington, and Kenny willing to put Clementine and AJ above himself, along with him mentioning something along the lines of it has to mean something, just fits in perfectly with his character and the story as a whole. Its tragic but also beautiful at the same time.
@@Kingdom850 I think it’s still better because Kenny gets to leave believing AJ & Clem are safe & he doesn’t have to worry about losing them & it puts a lot of stress off of him. Ntm he doesn’t die by Clem or a car accident. His life after remains unknown & when he left, he had supplies, food & a gun. And we know when he left with Clem, they managed to survive on their own, so Kenny likely still would be alive if we go into Wellington.
@@theone8276 Kenny would likely commit suicide since he doesnt have people that he cares about anymore and knows that he himself would not be able to handle with another loss of people whom he cares about. He is just tired of getting his heart broken over and over again.
Kenny, in my opinion, is the best choice because he's loyal.
Kenny called himself a "Christian." Well, if you're loyal to him, he treats you the same, justblike the good book says: "Treat others how you would want to be treated."
Jane, as far as I'm concerned, was all talk. She seemed loyal to Clem, but when the shit hit the fan, she took her own life and left Clem and Aj to fend for themselves.
Kenny not only sticks with Clem and Aj, and even sacrifices himself so they can live, but along the way, I feel he teaches both directly and indirectly the value of family, and of the value of hope.
Lee taught Clem how to survive. Kenny taught her what it means to have something to live for.
Kenny was a good man but being a Christian doesn’t make everyone the same, there are people who are Christian’s and will not always be as good hearted as Kenny, there will always be bad Christians and there will always be bad things in the good book as well as good verses, there are also many bad verses.
@Lauriestrode1978 - Bad verses in the Bible? Like what?
And as far as Kenny being a Christian, obviously that doesn't define a person, even though it should, but sadly there are many who claim to be Christian yet do not act anything like what they claim to be, which in other words makes them religious hypocrites, something that the Apostle Paul mentioned in 2nd Timothy 3:5.
Even stand-up comedian George Carlin mentioned these types of people, in one of his last shows before his death at the age of 71, when he said: "They should check with that Jesus fellow they're so crazy about, "What would Jesus do?' They don't want to know so they can do it. They just want to know so they can tell other people to do it."
@@thecowboy9698The bible defends slavery and genocide fairly explicitly
Regardless, I disagree with the criticism of Jane killing herself. We see that she suffers from self-worth issues, she believes she's a burden on Clementine and that she can live on her own so Jane killing herself would only make their lives easier in her mind, and then she finds out she's pregnant with the baby of someone she's still grieving which means more mouths to feed. She can either have the kid and be even more of a burden or try to abort the kid, but then there's the question of whether or not the fetus would reanimate. She could end up getting eaten from the inside if she tried to abort it for all she knows, that's a horrifying thought to me, her killing herself makes complete sense and isn't necessarily an indication of a lack of loyalty. Most people would kill themselves long before this point anyways, it's a zombie apocalypse, I don't like the commonly-believed idea that her killing herself and leaving Clementine behind is a sign of her true evil
@@thecowboy9698The bible defends sl.very and g.nocide fairly explicitly
Regardless, I disagree with the criticism of Jane k.lling herself. We see that she suffers from self-worth issues, she believes she's a burden on Clementine and that she can live on her own so Jane k.lling herself would only make their lives easier in her mind, and then she finds out she's pregnant with the baby of someone she's still grieving which means more mouths to feed. She can either have the kid and be even more of a burden or try to abort the kid, but then there's the question of whether or not the fetus would reanimate. She could end up getting eaten from the inside if she tried to abort it for all she knows, that's a horrifying thought to me, her k.lling herself makes complete sense and isn't necessarily an indication of a lack of loyalty. Most people would k.ll themselves long before this point anyways, it's a zombie apocalypse, I don't like the commonly-believed idea that her k.lling herself and leaving Clementine behind is a sign of her true evil, it could actually be argued that this was an extension of her loyalty to Clementine given that she thought herself a burden and another baby would definitely be a burden
When you described that “abuser” isn’t the right word to describe Kenny, I agree and disagree. A lot of times, abuse can happen when the person who does it “doesn’t mean to”, and for the record, Kenny doesn’t seem to ease off after he’s told multiple times that his actions hurt those around him. He also doesn’t take into proper consideration how scared everyone is of him.
I’d still choose him over Jane because of our bond and the fact that Jane would put an infant in danger to prove a point and start a fight.
This is correct. People often forget that broken people can make more broken people through horrible actions.
i absolutely agree with this. jane is less of a good caretaker and has less good motive than kenny in every way and your first point encapsulates everything i want to say
@@godfrey4461 great comment
they excuse the actions saying that person is 'broken' and refuse to hold them accountable when they hurt others, but its so important to be nuanced and not do that ESPECIALLY WITH KENNY!!!! he has hurt many people!!!!
The voice actor for Kenny, Gavin Hammon, was quoted not too long ago of having the opinion that Kenny was an abuser.
This is coming from someone who personally loves the character btw.
Hes not but oj
they shouldve made Kennys death been like a fist fight between a horde of walkers to protect clem and aj s3, where like hes like surrounded by walkers and hes just like laughing and yelling obscenities while like going absolute gladiator on walkers until he eventually gets eaten alive. now THAT is a proper death for Kenny.
Literally that the EXACTLY what should have happened!!!!!!!!!!
The people who sided with Jane at the end are disturbed people.
Kenny literally starts to lose his mind at the end of the second 2, he's pretty dangerous
Yep
@@Ema_Not_EmmaJane literally put a newborns life in jeopardy to prove a point. If you choose to go back to Howes with her, she kills herself shortly after, leaving clementine alone. Adversely if you leave with Kenny you get security and lessons with him.
Jane in my eyes is one of the worst characters in season 2.
@@alexanderkareh6832 I agree
@@Ema_Not_EmmaKenny was losing it because his entire family was killed yet again. Not to mention, the entire group in Season 2 were some of the most annoying an idiotic people ever. Bonnie, and Mike literally sided with Arvo, the same guy who tried to kill them. They even were the reason Luke got killed because instead of killing Arvo, they chose to follow him over ice to an abandoned house for two bags of damn chili. By the end, it was just Jane and Kenny. Jane made a legit effort to piss Kenny off all while knowing he has a short fuse. She then chose to play a pissing match by hiding and endangering an infant just to prove a damn point. Say what you will about Kenny and his impulses, HE NEVER endangered a kid just for the sake of proving a damn point. He looks out for those he cares about and those he can trust. Sure, he can be a bit manic at times, but what Jane did was sociopathic as hell. She deserved to be eliminated the way she did. What makes it worse is she offs herself if you choose to stay with her. She is a horrible character.
I can’t imagine not siding with Kenny. Kenny is love Kenny is life
It’s all Kenny now.
kenny is million times better than jane
I mean look at her haircut
@@nosireyessir It wasn't even a question to look away that first time. I seriously don't understand how people can not side with Kenny
@@wr4th155probably because as a player I distinctly recall how Kenny wanted to leave me (Clem) to be kidnapped, how he beat the crap out of a kid at the slightest provocation multiple times, how he gets angry at me no matter what I do when it comes to Sarita and the way he treats everyone else (I’m the main character but I’m not the center of the world).
Also you don’t have to go with Jane at the end of it? Whoever murders the other can be left and we can go it alone from that point onward. Idk why everyone acts like Kenny is the only choice and then uses how he treats us and a baby (both of whom he sees as surrogates for his lost child the same way Jane sees us as a surrogate for her lost sister) kinda well as a reason for why he’s the clear pick when he’s still not. Kenny as a character is only *good* based upon certain choices made by Lee and Clem, I didn’t make those choices so my Kenny is just an a-hole whose interest in helping others begins and ends in their ability to help him.
@@mkwhite5054 Wait...when did Kenny ever want Clementine to be kidnapped?
Im sorry but everything Kenny got pissed off at was completely reasonable to get pissed off at. Obviously beating the piss out of a kid ain’t okay but that kid literally caused an all out gunfight.
That kid and his group also were also probably robbing other people, which is how they got all those supplies in the first place.
they just didnt get lucky fighting Clem's group.
@@Nebularban And Mike has the fucking audacity to actually care about Arvo.
Also arvo was a jerk even you didn’t steal from him and apologized he was still a dick.He didn’t even try to de escalate the situation. Team Kenny all the way on my first play through.
THE ONE THING I HATE OF SEASONS 3 & 4, is that they just mention ONCE Kenny's Hat, which that decision of grabbing the hat instead of more supplies speaks volumes of us as players, but yet aside from that it is never mentioned or showned again.
It makes that decision meaningless, which for a series like TWD by Telltale is the one thing you never want to make the player feel.
I can defend a lot of decisions of Telltale, but this the one that I can never forgive.
Season's 2 Wellington ending is one of my favorites, I almost cried as much as Season's 1 Finale and almost as much as when Kenny tried to help Ben on my run, I knew Kenny would survive and yet ... It hit so hard.
Even tho Telltale tried to gaslight me into hating Kenny in S2 i couldnt! I was constantly defending him! I ended it with Kenny and Clem leaving that town with the bag of supplies be ause i couldnt leave him 🥹
Too bad they completely fucked up Kenny's death in S3.
@@xLanzerSuch a half-assed way to kill off a beloved character smh
@@fullofnothing6320 legit. You can truly see they wrote themselves into a corner, but even though, I saw several better alternatives, like Kenny dying in a more heroic way or simply Clem getting separated from Kenny and not knowing what happened with him. His death was just extremely lazy.
@@xLanzer agree 💯 S3 just wasn't it either maybe there weren't same writers or team behind it cause it was a shit show, and I dont doubt Kenny wouldve absolutely despised that asshole Javier
@@xLanzer so many interesting routes to go and they picked the most ass for his ending
The face Kenny makes at 5:03 absolutely shatters my soul every time I see it
Tbh Kenny is probably the most relatable character.
Kenny is an amazing character he shows what a person can become when met with constant grief.
The fact he was able to keep on going after all the hard ships hes gone through is a testament to his character.
Such amazing character he won't agree to find Clementine if you don't agree on smashing Larry head
@andrebryant5081 you don't have to be a perfect person to be a good character. it's a video game at the end of the day he's not real.
@@severinhedge3893 It's not about perfect person. Kenny was around Clementine for months. Lee helped save Duck multiple times. Helped Kenny lay Duck to rest. Kenny won't return the favor if you don't agree on smashing Larry's head. You don't ever have to be perfect to do something right.
@andrebryant5081 I thought if you sided with him in everything else, he would still help you? And why wouldn't you kill Larry he's a threat to the group he tries to kill Lee at the start, has a failing heart, and undermines Lee.
It goes of a point system you either have to choose to save ben or Larry for the kenny ending.
if i was in that universe i would follow Kenny to the end of the world
Honestly Kenny aside, people say S3 was trash but S2 was really where the terrible writing really started to show lol I'm angry that I helped Sarah so much but the writers literally admitted they didn't give a damn about her and hated her so much. Perhaps Kenny was a scapegoat for the shitty writers overall, they needed something to cause tension to carry out the terrible writing without anyone noticing
Soo many people misunderstand Kenny the video "we don't talk about Kenny" is the exact definition of what I mean. Kenny from season 1 was a regular dude trying to survive the apocalypse and after losing his son and wife he goes through some really good development with Ben and he dies saving Ben from suffering that was the Ken we knew hard headed and stubborn but his heart is in the right place. In season 2 they try and make Kenny into carver by setting up Bonnie talking about Carver the same way Clem talks about Kenny but the difference is Carver is a pyscopath who kills his own people, shoots and injures his prisoners and abuses everyone he can put his hands around Kenny is flawed but he cares and looks after Clem we see after in season 3 that he looks after Clem, teaches her how to drive, AJ is a healthy baby and they have a lovely dynamic together which isn't how Carver behaves at all. What pisses me off is the group your stuck with constantly diss and attack Kenny despite the fact he looks after the group and saved them from the Russian bandits and look what happens when they don't listen to Kenny Luke gets shot, Clem gets shot and Luke dies it always pisses me off it should have been Luke vs Kenny but they changed it with Jane who actively put AJ in danger and pissed off Kenny to the max who already lost his wife, son his girlfriend and now his potential second son it's a no brainer to side with Kenny. He isn't a abuser he's just been through hell and he trudges his way through it every single day he's a legend and it's sad that they kill him off in season 3 despite him dying a hero.
Kenny doesn't even want to save Clementine if you side with not killing Larry
I actually like that the group dissed Kenny, and I say that as a full Kenny fan. They saw the surface-level similarities between Kenny and Carver and wrote Kenny off as just as much of a monster. As with Lee in season 1, it's up to you to see the heart within and make the right call to be loyal to a flawed but good man.
@@andrebryant5081 Kenny lost an eye to protect Clem from Carver.
@@vinhbao9738 Kenny can leave Clementine to be with a stranger in season one.
@@andrebryant5081 Because he held it against Lee for not supporting the hard decisions that Kenny made.
Imagine trying to paint someone with higher than average empathy and anger issues who's been through hell as a psycho by proving they'll fly into a murderous rage over you convincing them, you just KILLED A BABY they're protecting for seemingly no reason. From kenny's pov Jane was a psychopathic manipulative child murderer who wanted to cause pain and suffering for fun. And she wasn't really far off of that.
How about a vid about Clementine? She outlives alot of adults that are stronger than her. She basically loses her naivety, her innocence, her childhood at the end of season 1 where she kills a human. imagine a 9 years old not even a teen losing all their loved ones, witnessing murders and having to kill people?
And she has a guilt complex. She feels that she is responsible for the deaths of people who cared for her. (Lee, Omid, Luke, Kenny, etc...). With Lee, it was her letting herself get captured by the Stranger & making Lee risk his life to save her from the Stranger. With Omid, it was her mistake of letting her gun get stolen and get used by a junk to shoot Omid, With Luke, it was her bodyweight breaking the ice sheet that was barely holding Luke's bodyweight. With Kenny, it was him losing his eye to protect her from Carver and her crashing the car and injuring him to the point of him not being able to move his body and thus getting eaten by nearby walkers.
Oh i forgot to mention characters who died protecting Clem like Chuck. However his death did not hit her as much as the deaths of the 1st 4 characters i mentioned. Then there are characters whose deaths can be partly blamed on Clem like Reggie (Clem not finishing her task and thus getting him killed by Carver due to Carver seeing him as a failure for not making Clem & Sarah finish their task) & Sarita (Clem cutting her hand while Sarita is in a middle of a herd).
Clem is a kid that lost her childhood & her loved ones & caretakers but that loss also pushed Clem to become a good caretaker. She is the heart and soul of the series. From being a daughter to being a mother.
Admittedly, some of what you said is determinant based on the player's choices, but otherwise yes.
Kenny is why I hate TWD season 2 so much
Not entirely bc of him, in fact not even mostly bc of him. I like Kenny as a character, but I hated Kenny in S2 because of Telltale. IDK what it is, but Telltale attempts to gaslight you as a player into hating Kenny. The entire group was driving that man crazy(and driving me crazy bc of their ineptitudes)and most of what happens to everyone in S2(aside from Omid, Krista, and Pete) is their fault, not Kenny's, yet after they escape Carver again, every new story beat is just the group blaming Kenny for everything, and at some points, trying to get you to blame Kenny and then you begin getting blamed!
Also, Arvo gets incredible baby treatment for NO REASON! Like, let's have the man who just had his group try to kill us join the group. And what does he do? Shoot clementine for NO reason and leaves with Bonnie and Mike
Telltale's writing in Season 2 is so trash that you can tell the original writers weren't there and that whoever wrote this game or one of the writers who did, clearly did not like Kenny. Probably based on their own choices in Season 1 lol
Yeah I didn't understand the sympathy the group was giving to Arvo since only clem and Jane saw him prior to the ambush. Even if he's a teenager no one looks fondly at would-be highway men.
No? The game doesn’t try to make you hate Kenny lol
It's true. The game gaslite me into shooting kenny and i was a kenny stan. Everything that was said here is 100 correct. The fact we never see arvo punk ass again is infuriating. Those traitors too.
@@DeadX2 Wanna give reasons why, drone? You cant just disagree and act like your job is done. Come on, back up your claim.
@@Kingdom850 there’s not really any reasons you can choose any side also I didn’t have to back it up cause I wasn’t arguing with anyone lol back up ur claim bad
My canon ending for season 2 is staying in Wellington and Kenny walks away. With that, we don't get into the car accident and it most likely won't happen and Kenny goes off to wander wherever he goes to next.
He's made it this far and he's finished his best friend's job.
I love how in season 2, that group finds Kenny and his group, get home kidnapped, watch get beaten to near death losing an eye in the process, getting his GF killed and making him lose literally all his new friends… then they act he is crazy when he is no longer very happy… they also call him crazy after he treats a prisoner (arvo) like a prisoner, literally seconds after he led a gang of thugs to come and take them all out and Kenny treats him bad… yeah he was a prisoner who brought people to hurt you and now you wanna call him crazy?! Really!?!?!?!?!
People who did play throughs for the Walking Dead all unanimously hated Kenny and all sided with Jane!!!
Take a moment in Kenny’s shoes, you lost your wife and child mere months in during the outbreak, Son gets bitten and your wife couldn’t muster the strength to live on and selfishly takes her own life in front of her own dying son, leaving your husband behind.
Depending upon your choice having Kenny shoot Duck or have Lee Do it doesn’t necessarily matter per se but it definitely affects Kenny a lot.
You are going through a downward spiral, trying to cope with the immediate loss of your family, fixating on a plan you don’t know for sure if it even works.
and now he’s lost his best friend in Lee because of a walker bite
Season 2: Kenny reunited with Clementine essentially he made a promise with himself to protect Clem no matter what and always puts her first before him. Something Sarita takes noticed of which prompts her to talk with Clementine in Episode 2. He offers Clem to stay with him at the lodge and if you refuse (although he does feel sad about it but he also understands it) When you say yes to staying with Kenny he got so happy about as if trying to rebuild some normality having Clem back.
Kenny took a beating for Clem from Carver knowing full well He would’ve done worse to Clem. It’s shown Carver isn’t above hitting on kids and yes he crashed on Clem for what happened to Sarita but it was the heat of the moment and he realized his mistake, something he apologizes for in episode 5
Same episode Kenny voluntarily chose solitude instead of his own safety so that Clem and Aj could be safe. If you guys picked the Wellington ending (lame ending)
The best ending my opinion is Kenny, Clem and Aj all together
I hated them both lmfao
@@678fireplacethat kinda depends on ur choices tho
@678fireplace idk about anyone else's Kenny but my Kenny and Lee *were* best friends lol. I damn near agreed with everything he said except for maybe one or two times
@@678fireplace are we also forgetting to that Kenny almost scarified his life in the first season when lee was bit?
@@678fireplacefuck Jane. She deserves all the hate. She wouldn’t sacrifice her self to save Clem and AJ or beg the people at Wellington to take Clem and AJ in. She would guilt trip Clem and beg her to stay with her.
She put AJ in frozen car only to provoke Kenny. She hung her self after she found out about the pregnancy and left Clem alone with an infant child a week or maybe days after the events of season 2.
i couldnt leave kenny behind, what purpose is surviving if you dont stay with the people you love.
i had to kill kenny even know i love him but the way lee raised and the way i made my choices i couldnt let he kill a "innocent" person like i already knew jane was lying about the baby but still isnt a reasonable to kill someone and i choose to leave jane too so i was full lonewolf in the end
Unless there's an alternate dialogue I've missed, she never tells Clementine that the baby is hidden anywhere. All she says is, "Trust me." "You're going to see him for what he really is!" "Stay out of it!" I personally wouldn't have trusted her. She's a nut job and already has a pretty shaky loyalty at best. Not to mention, her giving up on her own sister.
@@firmaozikano, it's psychopathic to play with emotions like that. You take an already broken man, of whom has lost his son and both of the women he loved (one extremely recently), and then take the ONE thing that gave him reason to live, and make him belive he's lost it all again. Thats just pushing him off the edge with full intention. She knew he would go crazy, and she was fully prepared to kill him. Infact, she planned to. And I'm sorry, but you don't play with emotions like that, ESPECIALLY when kids are part of the equation. You don't do this whole 'haha he was in the car the whole time' thing. Which, is likely why she planned on killing him, she didn't expect him to live long enough to find out AJ was in the car. And even if you side with her, she just offs herself after 2 weeks. She never had clem and aj's better interests in mind. Psychopath (or sociopath, can't remember the difference.)
I mean, Kenny is right though. You can say a lot about his character but one thing you cant say anything bad about his loyalty and fortitude.
Ya boy doubles down on the future every time life hits him. He will always put his kids first. Jane tells you who she is. She's very strong, but when push comes to shove she'll act in her own self interest.
When push comes to shove with Kenny he'll get shoved into the dirt before he lets anyone hurt his people. He believes that civilization is an option, and depending on your choices hes proven right
In this house we love and respect Kenny.
Kenny is by far my favorite character in the Walking Dead. As much as we all love Lee and his story with Clem, Kenny's story of losing his family, yet still choosing to go on and continue to live for them and to forgive the person responsible for their death was always my favorite outcome of the game, I love helping Kenny through the grief of his families loss and helping him through to forgiving Ben and when he returned in season 2 I was so happy.
as a bpd person, i always saw kenny as someone who developed BPD through all the abandonment that's inevitable in the apacolypse, and deals with those traits in toxic and self destructive ways, but he isn't abusive.
With season 2, I could see both sides on him been dangerous but also caring, since he was going through a lot. That he does care and love Clementine as well as AJ, I wouldn't call him an abuser, he was dealing with a lot of traumatic stuff and he did a lot of things that he would be regretful of. The Wellington ending is probably the best one, since he realised he loved Clementine and AJ that much that he could let them go, even saying he wasn't mentally fit anymore to care for two children. I feel like he's someone that needs someone to fight for and protect, then when something happens, he spirals into a very dark place and as the pressure builds up he lets it all out
The people who call kenny an abuser havent actually been abused, hes an angry man whos lashing out after losing everything AGAIN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DANG APOCALYPSE abusing someone is very differnet behavior namely that its about power, an abuser makes you feel small and delegitimizes you as an independent being (at least that is the nature of their behavior the action of course varies per the abuser( kenny isnt doing that he is a man who is angry and lashing out, hell he even later apologizes in earnest which an abuser wouldnt do
Is everyone just remembering things wrong you can be as anti Kenny as possible and he’ll still care about Lee and Clem when people say he “abandons” Clem it’s bull because at that point the whole group thinks Vernon took her and it was just a simple grab and go while he gets the boat ready which he still offers a ride to Lee even if you’re against him the whole game and when they come back and he finds out Clem was really abducted he’ll sacrifice himself for Ben or Christa so the others can find her
No. if you had not done enough good things for his family, Kenny wont come with you. He doesnt care about you and your fam if you dont care about his fam.
After disagreeing with him about Larry he literally hesitates to rescue us on the scavenger mission and if you don’t support his fixation on getting a boat then say goodbye to him helping you save your kidnapped child.
choosing to shoot kenny is a criminal offense, idc how you feel about him, but you can't name me one moment where someone he viewed as family got hurt by him (physically)
kenny was such a lovable character really wish he survived up to chapter 3
Kenny is one of then most well written characters in all of gaming.
Kenny killed Jane and brought Clem and AJ to Wellington and then left to sail out in Florida according to my official headcanon. Every other ending is not good enough for Kenny. Lee, Clem and Kenny are TWD's best characters, and I demand proper writing for them.
Honestly, I see alot of people saying that they killed Jane to have Kenny live, but I killed Kenny so he would finally be put to rest after all he suffered.
Best well written character of any TWD series. Especially with the ending of S2 @ Wellington ❤️
This is a great video man! I've seen the opinions that Kenny is an abusive uncle to Clem and _us_ but that's not how I like to see it. I saw Kenny in the games as a friend that's desperately trying to find a way out, his happy ending too. Kenny is one of the best written side characters but even still, I would have liked having more characters from S1 TTWD appear further in. With Kenny, we see him at his happiest, at his worst, and most importantly, at his most afraid... Family was the most important thing to him and in the later seasons, we see him become more distant because he doesn't want to get close to people because he doesn't want anymore friends lost. He is a very human character as he is a very broken and flawed man, we see with our own eyes just what tragedies Kenny goes through. But in the end lets consider Clementine stays with Kenny to the end, Kenny finally realizes that even if he doesn't fully consider Clementine as family, she considers Kenny as an invaluable friend and family of her own, even despite all the hardships he put her through. And I think whatever happens to Kenny in the end, his final hope was protecting someone he loves and cares for, and I think he was ultimately successful.
People really picked Jane when Kenny is clearly the better figure to look after AJ
I can't believe some people label Kenny as an "abuser" calling someone an abuser just because they're jaded and might unintentionally hurt you is incredibly selfish and apathetic. It is the moral duty of good people to pick up and fix broken people especially in an apocalypse. I also can't forgive Jane not just for risking AJ's life with her dumb plan but for what she does in season 3, taking your own life is one thing but Jane's pregnancy was the only piece of Luke left, destroying that and leaving Clem alone to raise AJ is just wrong.
You kenny glazers are something else.
That’s true… in an ideal world.
In with you. Jane might be more… together than Kenny, but she’s a lying, conniving creep who has an unhealthy and inappropriate (not sexually, just weird) attachment to Clementine.
Kenny is explosive, no doubt. Has been since the Motor Inn with Lilly in charge… but the dude is at least honest and means well most of the time. You CAN trust Kenny of u understand him. You CAN’T trust Jane even if you do
Having a jaded past and unintentionally hurting someone doesn’t mean that person can’t be an abuser, unfortunately that’s not how that works. It’s the actions that make it abusive and not the intent.
@@urfavoritesock5226 If that's the case then we're all abusers in some way or another and none of us deserve to be saved.
@@t5hammer871both Kenny AND Jane have an unhealthy attachment to Clem (and Kenny also has AJ) that’s the point, both of them see us as surrogates for the people they lost. Jane for her sister and Kenny for Duck (especially when it comes to AJ). Why is it yall can see that everyone else parentifies and weirdly looks to Clem to be the end all be all of their sorrow but can’t do that for Kenny?
Every time I watch people playthrough S2, I always think I'm the only one who changed Kenny's bandage in the tent while everyone else does at the fountain 😂
As Lee, I stuck with Kenny till the end.
Vouched for, saved and ended Duck for him.
Assisted in the unfortunate demise of Larry, and was the 1st one I told the truth about my past to and when Lee got bit.
I never snaked Kenny. My don!
I liked Season 2 (not nearly as much as Season 1), but the first episode of Season 2 was SO BORING. LIKE, I ALMOST FELL ASLEEP A FEW TIMES.
Really shows how Kenny and Clem carried the season on their BACKS.
A broken person can still have abusive traits. You didn't explain how he wasn't abusive, you explained why he became that way. And having abusive traits doesn't make Kenny automatically evil, just unstable.
But… wasn’t he abusive to Arvo?
Kenny is the GOAT
I swear it's just me, but does anyone else notice that the character models get more and more "gaunt" and pale slightly throughout the episodes of season 1? Could be just the general lighting and the change of weather, but I notice it specifically in Kenny's sake; especially after Episode 3.
I love Kenny and I don't care what anybody says. My Clementine always stands by him, until he begs her to go to Wellington. She does that to ease his burden because she truly cares about him.
I’ve discovered your channel yesterday and I’ve been binging your videos. We both have the same opinions on characters, and I love your in depth analysis of character development and the games overall. You go in to great detail and are unbiased. Keep up the great work
Also this analysis is PHENOMENAL.
I have known this channel last week and I was waiting for a new video !
Despite everything, Kenny is and forever will be my favorite character in all of these games. He's just written too perfectly.
Kenny is considered a formally unlucky character, we see him in almost every character in twd tv series
That man is pretty much #3 behind Lee and Clem of best characters in all seasons. I could never not side with him in every playthrough I do.
Kennys the most realistic character in the walking dead
Kenny haters to this day are so dense in not getting why people love Kenny.
Kenny imo is made to be a ride or die. If you don’t side with him, almost at all, he won’t help you later. Same goes for season 2 and it’s rather annoying. I helped Kenny through everything but just didn’t help him with Larry and he never forgave me. I did everything right too afterwards and he still had some grudge.
That was apparently a bug that never got fixed
yo dude great content i dont see people talk about this game anymore so im glad to see you making videos talking about it keep up the great work and good luck growing the channel :)
The "Boatman Extreme" deserved a better fate.💔
In my opinion I fully understand why he is the way he is but I feel like he gets way more understanding for his grief than a lot of other characters do. This fan base hates a bunch of characters that are broken from their losses all the time so when people dislike Kenny I don't get upset by that because y'all hate a bunch of characters who have lost everything all the time. Nick is one of the most hated characters but he had just lost his mom right before season 2 started so I can understand why he's the way he is. And Ben lost everything but nobody cares about that and hates him for being who he is regardless. But no matter what Kenny acts like people extend a ton of grace to him. Kids in TWD universe don't even get extended nearly as much grace that Kenny is given
I understand what you’re saying, but there’s a lot of difference in losing your mother and losing your wife and child. He lost his WHOLE family within 5 minutes. I’ve lost a lot of people in my life, including a child. Losing anyone hurts badly, but losing a child breaks you in a way that is irreparable. Child loss leaves you with a lifetime of agony and it haunts you. If I had lost my husband too, I don’t think my lungs would’ve been capable of filling with air any longer. He shouldn’t be allowed to just do whatever and get away with it, but Kenny does deserve more understanding, because his suffering has been greater.
@@genesiscda4847 i understand what you're saying entirely. I just believe a lot of other characters deserve a lot more sympathy
@@NeshaBoo21 People side with Kenny because he still took care of Clem and AJ like family and didn't give up on them, unlike any of the other characters you mentioned. Nike shot Matthew on the bridge for no fvking reason. He also didn't do sh!t the entire season. Jane instigated a fight with Kenny just to prove a point.
I think it's kind of fascinating honestly and I see it too. There's a reason we like Kenny but at the end of the day it doesn't change what he's done, and I think how people respond to it is interesting! Abusers are human, Kenny's human, he's also an abuser. People really don't like using that word, but broken/hurt people can be abusers. Hell, most abusers were hurt very badly themselves. People defending that with Kenny only goes to show how well that's written, imo.
Just Lenny talkin bout Kenny
I love kenny best character up there with lee and clem
I think ultimately what broke Kenny was when he gave into his most base instincts with him beating Carver to death, he didn't just want him dead he wanted to make sure he got even and then some, you can see by how after he constantly on the high and low of mental state and why he insists that the best thing for Clementine is if he wasn't there.
Kenny is a man of action, he has a constant craving to take the lead and solve problems, he's nothing to himself without that and knows it would only mean his death.
The walking dead games I honestly prefer over the show, the games show the deaths and horrors of the apocalypse flawlessly. People in our group die a lot over the course of the games, no one is safe whatsoever. The games instill a feeling of hopelessness and death, and Kenny is one of the best representation of what happens to people in the apocalypse.
A Kenny spin off is needed 100%
No matter what has happened to you in the past or what is going on in your life right now, it has no power to keep you from having an amazingly good future if you will walk by faith in Kenny. Kenny loves you!
He wants you to live with victory over sin so you can possess His promises for your life today!
Yay, another Banger video!! :3
As sad as it is to see Season 3 Kenny die in a car crash, I think it's fulfilling for him. From Kenny's perspective, he's felt since Season 2 that he's been a danger to Clementine and AJ, yet Clem decided to stay with him anyway, firmly cementing their family bond. Since he's injured anyway, Kenny sacrifices himself for the sake of the kids, however physically painful it may be. Too many times he's seen the people he loved die in front of him and leave him behind to live on. This is Kenny's way of saying it's his turn to be on the other side of that.
This time he didn't fail to protect his family and instead died so they can live. Thats enough for him.
Kenny is just.. he suffered a lot man :( ...
I completely agree! Kenny is the BEST character in the games! ^^
Kenny is the best character in TWD.
It's a shame that he is not in the third and final season.
I wish Telltale makes a TWD where Kenny is the main character. That would be awesome for all the Kenny fans.
He was in the third season but only for 10 minutes and he also died in that season but yes he wasn't in the final season at all
Kenny I think alongside S1 Clementine is one of Telltale's best written and more compelling characters because he isn't always agreeable, does things that we would consider immoral yet at the same time seems to have a set of principles he sticks by and has created an interesting divide in the community between those who love and hate him etc. Me, personally the Wellington (stay) ending is probably a best fit for the character.
At least the fate he had in S3 is better than the one originally planned (where he just walked into a lake to commit suicide)
As much as I like that emotional driven man, I can't forgive him for not wanting to come and help you save Clam.
There was a bug in the older version of the game, if you were nice to Kenny but made one bad mistake with him the bug would act as if you didn't side with him at all Soo yeah
@Null2006 True, but the bug is still not fixed. From the gameplays I saw, it happens when you don't side with Kenny on smashing Larry's head.
@@shadowfox2730Yep
You didn't have the best interest for kenny and his familys survival so why would kenny have the opposite for you? Idk why it's hard for yall to understand that your actions influences others mostly leaving them to do the same. You can say kennys messed up but you can't say it wasn't understandable and he still had clems best interest in season2. Kenny forgave himself so he doesn't need yours.
@Godloveszaza The game tells you all that from the very start, and a lot of people had Kenny back. But not siding with him on smashing Larry's head, he questioned you if you have his back? Even when through most of the game, you sided with him. That frustrated a lot of people and he was willing to leave a 9 yo with a strange man. I and many others didn't know that it was a bug and even so, he was rather irritating in both seasons.
I know it would kinda rob season 2 but i wish season 3 followed clem and kenny instead of the brief flashbacks
The justice for kenny I been waiting on 💯
Kenny's mental health was sky rocket by ep 3 it was healing when he was met again but he was still the good guy he was just portrayed as the bad guy by bad decision making characters
Kenny is the best character in telltales walking dead
i don’t get how people took the choice to shoot his son and not make him as a father do it himself, he tells Clementine that he’s thankful Lee made him man up and take things into his own hands by helping his son, ending his suffering.
Kenny and a lot of people’s reaction to his character perfectly shows how people only want to see, support, understand, etc. palatable forms of mental illness and grief. Kenny *is* depressed, and has been since the deaths of his family is season 1. Not might be, not becoming depressed after Sarita dies, he was depressed. Yes I do think that he loved Sarita, but she didn’t cure his depression, just gave him a cover to hide it behind. Now that cover is gone and he’s left in an even worse state because it was ripped away from him instead of him making the choice to come out from behind it. Depression *isn’t” just someone feeling sad all the time that can be made better by kind words and cuddles under comfortable blankets, it’s feeling hopeless, angry, numb, and many more complicated emotions often all mixed together in a giant mess. Specifically with Kenny we get to see him feel anger and hopeless. Was he a jerk and emotionally abusive to Clem and the others in the group? Yes. Is it still on him for acting that way? Also yes. But if you genuinely look at him doing those scenes and go “he’s an abuser and an awful person” then you’re ignoring the very real and difficult to control reason he acted how he did. Because also, feeling hopeless isn’t just “nothings going to get better so why continue?” It’s also feeling like genuinely *nothing* matters. I’ve said shit I’m not proud of when I’m in that kind of depression, genuinely the idea that words affect people doesn’t register, and if someone lets you know they heard what you said/were hurt by it/etc. it just rolls off, because those words also fall under the category of “nothing matters”, it’s only once you get out of that state and are able to remember that things *do* matter that you’re able to go “shit I shouldn’t have said that”
Love your analysis of the characters, just wanted to add that regarding if kenny was abusive or not, his intention, whether it was purposeful or not, doesn't make a different. and people who are broken can be abusive. it may be the cause, but it's not an excuse. kenny's a great character tho
Kenny is in my top 3 walking dead characters, along with Clem.
the GOAT drops another twdg video!!!
i think kenny is a very very complicated character that you really need to look into to understand (like you said) and he is extremely flawed. theres no opinion you can have on him without nuance, you cant go 'kenny is good' or 'kenny is bad' (in terms of his development atleast. like him or dont its none of my business)
i think its really important to understand that people can be abusive even if they dont mean to or they dont intend to harm others. even if it wasnt directed towards clem or aj, kenny still beat a child mercilessly (arvo. even if you dont like him i dont either but he is still a child) and this is disgraceful of him. even if he didnt mean to he still did do these things and whos there to account for them other than him
you can see he tries to atone for this by understanding that clem and aj are better off with someone more stable, he accepts hes run his road and he isnt fit to care for them anymore but this still doesnt overwrite his previous actions. he is a realistic character and this doesnt mean he has to be angelic, hes flawed and thats so unbelievably important to his character and i feel its not discussed enough
I looked away and didn't shoot Kenny and stayed at Wellington so Kenny doesn't die in a car accident so weather or not he is alive isn't yes or no and I sided with Kenny all through s1 how could you not
Same, he's just a great guy to be honest, even if you didn't side him at season 1 ep1 he still saves you😓🙏 I don't get why some people actually hated on him
In season 2 I agreed with everything Kenny said even if deep down I didn’t
KENNY IS THE GOAT THE GOATTTTT 🗣️🗣️🗣️
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my goat my goat my gost
Kenny Has A Type
i love your videos
1:07 I'm not going to lie I prefer the outcome where you kind of get mad at him because at the end of the day Clementine is a kid plain and simple and she has saw more than any kid should have to see heck in the timeline where this argument takes place she shoots Lee and this is why I usually keep Sarita alive so that he ends up putting her down because then the telling him I had to shoot Lee makes more sense don't get me wrong I like seeing characters makeup but I felt like it happened too quickly in this scene and also I really wanted to be pissed off for once because Clementine so far up until this point has been basically the glue keeping this team together but you can only mess with the glue so much until eventually it doesn't want to stick with you anymore so having her snap for just one second felt really powerful and it makes Kenny's apology later on at the power plant feel a whole lot better because in my head I feel like it makes more sense that he wouldn't apologize right away because she would have yelled at him but then over a while would have thought about it and actually been like yeah she had an idea she was kind of right.
I almost quit during season 3 episode 1
Hey King! You dropped this K, you might wanna drop the L and replace it. So you might live up to the power of the GOAT!
(In all serious ness, you're doing fucking fantastic man, can't wait to see what else ya got for us!)
I will say, I do not like Kenny in the first season with Lee. But second season, its Kenny all the way, especially against Jane. That girl can get stabbed.
Team kenny
I don't care what anyone says I'll always love kenny sure there are times he can be stubborn and can be a jerk if you don't agree with most of his actions in the game but he has good heart like lee along with caring about clem like she family in season 2 and in the end if you didn't shoot him between his fight with jane and stay with him he want clem and aj go to wellington for them to be safe feeling he can't protect them anymore my clem stay with kenny no matter and I hate how crappy his dead was in season 3 but I don't regret over the flashbacks of them spending time together was sweet before that car incident at least he with his family now along with lee watching over clem in the afterlife
The guy who will say no to finding Clementine just because you don't agree with smashing Larry head, but acts like you can save Duck instead of getting rid of him just as fast.
Fun fact, the Kenny relationship meter was bugged and never fixed, so making that larry choice making him dislike the player for the rest of the game
Literally all you have to say is Clem is family and he'll come
@@dillydrawsnah if you do other stuff he’ll be with you
Telltale coulda make Kenny the villain for season 2. Just, imagine, how this could be, how season 2 could be better, than what we got. Kenny was kinda dick in season 1, despite the players choices, if Lee don t side with him every second, than he just left Lee and Clem alone, so he could swim away on the boat. So, the idea for making Kenny a Carver for seadon 2, coukd be good.
I see that your profile picture is Skikamaru, do you think you'll ever do an analysis of him? Just wondering because he is my favorite Naruto character.
Kenny kinda feels like he isn't the same character from Season 1 to Season 2. Idk if that's just me.
New video finally
God, i forgot how emotional this game is, especially Kenny's story 😢