Still Miserable? Sortof :( Broadway Limited Paragon 4 Smoke Units; the Blue Goose is a Flawed Model
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2022
- The two Broadway Limited steam engines with bad / blown smoke units are back! Will they work or will they blow again? Also, the BLI Blue Goose is just flawed… that’s all there is to it.
Erratum:
It’s a Great Northern S2, not Northern Pacifc
Models featured in this video, all from Broadway Limited and Paragon 4 Brass Hybrid
Great Northern S2
Milwaukee Road S3 no 261.
Early version Santa Fe Blue Goose
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I turned down the cv values on all of mine to drop the smoke unit’s voltage to a level that wouldn’t burn it up. Still produces enough noticeable smoke without melting everything around it. No problems so far.
Glad to see there was a better resolution for the the 4-8-4's. I personally would gut out their smoke units and electronics for more reliable electronics and features, but I am glad to see resolution. On the down side, I do not think having them sent at least twice now to finally work is what I would personally be happy with though, you seem more forgiving than I might be. Great video production. I definitely recommend opening up the Blue Goose and test it without the shell on the track to hopefully see what that clicking noise may be.
Thanks for writing, Mr. Joe. Yes, I can see a good argument for doing that--at a minimum these things would sound better, right? I'm probably only at least somewhat happy b/c at least BLI's tech support has been very professional with me, which is better than I can say for someone else I've had a recent interaction with lol. I love your stuff and head over to your page often, keep up the good work, yourself!
@@DoctorHobby I cannot agree more about BLI's service. TCS service for me has been overall positive too. Very interactive people from their service department too.
Also, thank you! As a younger modeler, I like to share what I would watch and enjoy doing, and I want to be able to keep content interesting and fun. I stay tune to your channel on the work you have done. Really professional on your end!
I have to send a WOW Steam back.. it's been about 8 months, so hopefully they won't give me any grief! Best wishes to ya!
FYI, if you’re having constant problems with electrical pickup, it’s not the engine. Just looking at your track, I see unsoldered joints. Run your fingers across the rails; if you pull back two black streaks, clean the track! My layout has two 94 foot ballasted mainlines with soldered joints and feeder wires every 4-5 feet. The track and every wheel on every car/engine running gets completely cleaned every three to four weeks. I have NO problems with voltage drops and all of my locomotives run just fine.
All my BLI steamers had their smoke units removed. I wanted the weight increase more than smoke eye candy. Sounds crazy to some but I'm glad I did because my friend has had these smoke unit problems you talked about and more.
Just a few views of my channel and it Sounds pretty sane to me! Thanks so much for watching!
@@DoctorHobby Thanks for the honest review. Keep up the good work. 👍
I have a few BLI ES44AC locomotives and after watching your videos I have turned the smoke off, I am not taking a chance. Thankfully they have a on / off switch no need for CV's. Glad to see you have a lot more patience than me.
If anything, I'm glad that I help your enjoyment of the hobby by helping your rolling stock last longer! The steamers have hard switches, too, but they're on the bottom of the units--not nearly as convenient as under that little hatch! Take care and thank you for watching!
Sounds like a loco pickup problem. If the wheels have electrical wiper pickups and they're misaligned or deformed... happens quite a bit on UK loco's.
Got 6 locos and had 3 problems. That’s a 50% fail rate for BLI. They need to do better. I want them to do better to contribute to the hobby. Their RF-16s are great.
Yikes! A 50% defect rate is far too much for anyone to sustain. I hope you're able to have better luck in the future. At least you know you aren't the only one with these issues. Thank you for watching!
I'm two for two and afraid to open the other new BLI locos I bought
That was exactly my issue with these... Just didn't want more bad news...
Current Erratum: It’s a Great Northern S2, not NP
I’m surprised that the BLI P4 S3 and BLI Brass Hybrid P4 S2 didn’t have smoke units blown up on you! Your lucky! To me I would avoid the Blue Goose, cuz I’m not crazy over it and the Smoke Units and Sounds are still my issue from BLI. I actually have BLI M1a, but it has a QSI Sound Decoder and it was good. No smoke unit though, which I’m glad. If I were to get a BLI P3 or P4 I would change the decoder to TCS Wowsound and just take off the smoke unit off before I have any problems with the smoke unit. Great video.
There’s always tomorrow! Thanks so much for watching, your comments, and for the encouragement! If there is another blow up, I’ll post it for sure lol
Sometimes I think that bli locos are plotting their smoke units to blow up. While I personally have never had this issue I really hope there that there is some fix. Also thanks to your videos it got me back into spending more time with my own models! So thank you very much!
Is it... ?? "good" that I helped push you toward spending money?
@@DoctorHobby probably not lol
I’z sorry :(. I hope it does bring you joy, tho!
I just got the BLI Greenbriar 4-8-4 and the smoke unit quit working after the first day. I've kept it from drying out. My first BLI locomotive. I guess faulty smoke units is a thing with these.
I have a Paragon 3 K4 streamlined loco and a Paragon 3 Cab Forward, they both have random pickup problems i.e they lose power for no reason even when the wheels and pickups are spotless. I've heard more Paragon 3s exploding due to smoke units or just abysmal design flaws (i thankfully have not experienced this), thought that Paragon 4 would've been better, apparently not
BLI is a mass production company. Quality is their 2nd concern! I have T-1, run it less than 10 times. Now, it is not running!
Sounds about par for the course. Sorry you're having the same problems so many others are... It's a bummer to be sure..
Seems like it's a spark from the insulated wheels making contact with the frame on it and it's something that's common with any brass built model...
Very, very possible… Continuing to investigate!
Glad the engines you got back are OK. I still won't buy bli. Thanks for the info. 😊👍
Maybe one of these days I'll declare that I haven't had problems with BLIs for like... a year... then maybe it'll be ok to go back in the pool again. I apprecaite ya for watching!
I personally haven’t had any problems with the smoke units. However, I had a lot of issues with the Paragon 3 locomotives not having capacitors. Probably my most problematic engine was the Pennsylvania streamlined K4s. It looks and sounds good, but it shut off and started up again on every frog switch I had. I even installed the GoPack and for some reason it made the problem worse. I’m probably going to send it to BLI and see if I can get it upgraded to P4. I know Paragon 4 has its problems as well, but it’s far better than Paragon 3.
Goodness, the smaller Paragon 3s are absolutely horrific when it comes to their pickups. I’ve had to install a gopack in every single one of them thus far… just …yeah… I’m not sure if the upgrade will even help, but I’d appreciate it if you let me know! Thanks for watching!
Hey by the way, the smoke unit on my Dreyfuss Hudson ended up crapping out on me. When your smoke units burnt out, did you send it back to BLI?
For the prices BLI gets they had damn well better support their product or they will be hard to give away at any price.
Is BLI supporting the issues and offering real fix(es) or just replacing defective parts with other defective parts.
They’re offering the same poorly designed parts back, but these are at least new poorly designed parts, I suppose?
Thanks for the update. You need coal loads in your hoppers. You are not making any money pulling empty freight.
Shhh! Not so loud! I tell my wife that I make money hauling these loads--that's why I need so much rolling stock! ;)
The units ran for 20 minutes without the need to refill smoke fluid? How much fluid do you initially use for fill-up? My BLI problem has been overfill.
It'll be about 6 drops, I think. The reason they ran for so long is that they were running at fairly high speed, so they weren't actually puffing all that much... Not like if they were going slow under load
@@DoctorHobby Thanks. Six (6) drops makes sense. You are right about high speed-eliminates smoke and chuff sounds, too. They look much better at slow speeds.
So as long as the boiler isn’t melting, they look great! I DO like smoke…just like it more when it’s working..
I bought purchased a blue goose from a second first owner and it’s hard to find parts for that thing
One of the new ones was already out on the used market?
Your dive rods might be bent which explains the click and short. I experience this sometimes when converting DC brass engines to DCC. Find where they touch, carefully bend them back and boom! Should resolve the issue. Sometimes it happens if you have a habit of picking up an loco from the wheels. It happens…
You might very well be right! Stay tuned and we’ll see how it goes!
You mean like pulling one out of your shirt pocket? Or trying to show off all the fine details while man handling it like a hogie from Subway?
@@gonebamboo4116 lol! Too bad this ain’t no 5 dollar foot long locomotive.
I’m not impressed with BLI. Smoke units don’t work, when they do it melts the boiler. I have a problem with a diesel. It only works on address 3. If I change it to anything else, it goes haywire.
Argh… unfortunately all-too-common glitchy electronics story from a customer. I’m sorry you’ve been caught by the same bugs so many of us have (and that fanboys have somehow implausibly been spared). Keep haulin’ and happy model railroading!
I know everyone's commenting about the BLI engines. But as an Amtrak fan, I couldn't help but notice you had a P30CH sitting on your layout. Will you ever overview it?
Ah! Excellent spot.. Yes.. very soon I’ll talk about it! Thanks for writing!
Great vid! Appreciate the update, but ready for those fanboy downvotes!
They’re already rolling in! Hahaha..
@@DoctorHobby Drones, all of them..
I know what you mean. After opening two of my new BLI locos, I couldn't face the others. Still haven't opened them. Like a bad taste in my mouth
YEEEES! Exactly... Just didn't feel like writing them about blown smoke units YET AGAIN! Thankfully it appears I might only have to write them about a different problem with that blue goose.. Yay lol
Who is the psychopath Miko Lee?
Que?
@@DoctorHobby It's removed! I took a screenshot of it-someone with the handle "Mika Lee" wrote "All you do is crap on Broadway limited video after video trying to get views. I'll look elsewhere for info because your channel is all about the views and negativity." Did someone forget to take their medication?
@@dinglebopsmoothedwithshlee6830 Oh! Hahaha! I went into my filtered comments and found this jem on a page that WASN'T about BLI locos: "You really are trying everything under the sun to make sure your channel earn views aren't ya? Pathetic. Quit being such a wanna be youtuber."
This account: th-cam.com/channels/t4AFR4JxrFWuS8Qrdrq09w.html
Looks like someone's jealous more than anything else. Nasty vice it is...
@@DoctorHobby Wow.. it saddens me to know that some people out there are so small and troubled. Definitely don't quit being a "youtuber" since what you do is great!
I'm not even sure I know what a "TH-camr" is? Either one does or doesn't post on TH-cam--it seems... absolute? In this case, I AM a TH-camr and not a "wannabe instigator" lol.
did you put some liquid smoke in them before you ran them? sometimes not doing that can burn out the smoke generator
Always do… see at 11 minutes exactly here: th-cam.com/video/9AFOrrGTvkg/w-d-xo.html
@@DoctorHobby I've seen other modelers put three to six drops in. try it like that.
We’re pretty far beyond that at this point lol… definitely not the problem. I think it’s a voltage or electrical bounce issue
FOR ANYBODY THAT READS THIS ,,,,
IF YOU ARE HAVING ELECTRICAL PICK-UP PROBLEMS ON ANY BLI LOCOMOTIVES ,,,
GET SOME ELECTRICAL CONTACT CLEANER AND SPRAY IT ON THE WHEELS , CLEAN YOUR WHEELS
BLI SPRAYS AN OVER SPRAY CLEAR COAT ON THE LOCO'S BEFORE SHIPPING ,, AND THIS HAS TO BE REMOVED OR YOUR LOCO'S WILL RANDOMLY CUT OUT