I bought this when it came out. The art combo of Sam Keith and Richard Isanove was perfect team post Maxx and his wrist issues. I don't care if it's weird and dream like, if more Marvel comics were this creative, I'd be a monthly buyer.
It's always good to see more Sam Keith coverage. He has a blog he posts on just about every day, where he shares scans of old artwork and pics of his current process for those that are interested. I hope you guys can get a shoot interview with him some day.
Thank you so much for introducing me to this arc, i absolutely love it! Kind of a bad take in my opinion about the story tho, i think the idea of wolverine and hulk helping a girl who turns out to be a ghost is freaking brilliant. And the moment where hulk finally realizes that he has to lie to the girl for the sake of her feelings is absolutely beautiful, made even more effective by the 4 issues of development to get us to that point
Congratulations on being professional cartoonists, guys! I'm currently on the full-time job/drawing by the night phase. I hope to get there one day too.
Keith, Corben, Sienkiewicz, and Bisley have always been the guys that do the kind of comic art I wish I could make, partially because I’d have to be on acid all the time to even get close to being that focused and ecstatic on every page.
Enjoying this episode quite a bit. Sam Kieth was always a cartoonist/writer whose visuals I loved, but could never fully get into the stories. As you’ve mentioned, it can tricky to find footing in his books when the stories wax and wane from a dream-like state to “real life” without any sort of clarity. I totally agree with you Ed that if he would have partnered with a great writer to shepherd him along and co-write we’d have some masterpiece Kieth runs/books.
My comic shop I go to , knows I’m a big Sam Kieth fan, and held Epicurus the Sage, for me. Super awesome if you guys get a chance to put It under the microscope. Also, agree with Ed , it would be great to get a masterpiece collab piece from him, some rip his stories to shreds, but, his art has the ability to make people like me a happier person.
Haven't seen the originals so can't confirm this, but I think some of the painted or colored pencil effects here might be from the colorist, Richard Isanove. He did the Marvel Knights Daredevil stuff that David Mack wrote for Joe Quesada and those have something of David Mack's post-Sienkiewicz style to them, a mixed-media approach.
At the last Dallas Comic Con I wore a vintage Venom vs Wolverine shirt from the 90's drawn by Keith. Every artist I had sign books voluntarily brought up Keith and had something positive to say about him. Joe Rubenstein, Sam De La Rosa, Humberto Ramos. Sam De La Rosa said he worked with Keith on a few issues of Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters which I totally forgot. I have all those old issues from the black and white boom.
i never saw this guy's art at the time, had long ditched superhero comics by then. I was obviously missing out as he's a singular artist, for sure. Some Corben, some Bode bigfoot cartoonyness, some Sienkewicz technique. The main take I get from his art is graffiti influence - massively gestural shapes, pushed proportions and perspective. Feels very hip hop, not heavy metal. Very 90s but loose and humorous. Bisley has this graf flavour too (look at his back cover to Overlord X "Weapon Is My Lyric" LP from 1989, more angular and Japan-influenced but could still imagine it sprayed onto a wall).
Ha love the "who else" signiture. A good portion of my comics are sam keith n ive never came across this one. Only marvel sam keith i have is marvel presents Wolverine. Only marvel i own period acually.
The left/right positioning of Hulk and Wolverine gets switched around on sequential pages at 18:10, 19:32, and 19:58. Of course it was probably done in order to have a "proper" character foreground/background positions for the two-page spread at 19:32.
there's something really fun about super detail mixed with simplicity, like minecraft with shaders I can't get enough of or detailed pixelart. Having seen Law and Order UK and the biggest difference I see is that the guns thing is a huge deal but no warrant, where in the US I always felt like the warrant thing was always half the episode. edit. I remembered the point I was gonna make about guns in the UK. Snatch is a good example of the "omg a gun" thing. "It's for protection" "Protection for what? Ze Germans?"
I bought this when it came out. The art combo of Sam Keith and Richard Isanove was perfect team post Maxx and his wrist issues. I don't care if it's weird and dream like, if more Marvel comics were this creative, I'd be a monthly buyer.
It's always good to see more Sam Keith coverage. He has a blog he posts on just about every day, where he shares scans of old artwork and pics of his current process for those that are interested. I hope you guys can get a shoot interview with him some day.
Thank you so much for introducing me to this arc, i absolutely love it! Kind of a bad take in my opinion about the story tho, i think the idea of wolverine and hulk helping a girl who turns out to be a ghost is freaking brilliant. And the moment where hulk finally realizes that he has to lie to the girl for the sake of her feelings is absolutely beautiful, made even more effective by the 4 issues of development to get us to that point
Congratulations on being professional cartoonists, guys! I'm currently on the full-time job/drawing by the night phase. I hope to get there one day too.
When I met Sam, he said, "After Sienkiewicz, anything was possible". Definite inspiration.
Keith, Corben, Sienkiewicz, and Bisley have always been the guys that do the kind of comic art I wish I could make, partially because I’d have to be on acid all the time to even get close to being that focused and ecstatic on every page.
Enjoying this episode quite a bit. Sam Kieth was always a cartoonist/writer whose visuals I loved, but could never fully get into the stories. As you’ve mentioned, it can tricky to find footing in his books when the stories wax and wane from a dream-like state to “real life” without any sort of clarity.
I totally agree with you Ed that if he would have partnered with a great writer to shepherd him along and co-write we’d have some masterpiece Kieth runs/books.
Whoa - had no idea this existed! Thank you thank you!
Sam Keith feels like Ralph Steadman's little brother in art
My comic shop I go to , knows I’m a big Sam Kieth fan, and held Epicurus the Sage, for me. Super awesome if you guys get a chance to put It under the microscope.
Also, agree with Ed , it would be great to get a masterpiece collab piece from him, some rip his stories to shreds, but, his art has the ability to make people like me a happier person.
sam kieth is a GOD. i really LIKED 'Hollows' on IDW fyi-
Awesome stuff. might be my fave kayfabe axeshully
Love me some Sam Kieth, I’ve just pulled out his Aliens run to read later tonight.
I like how Wolverine ties the Hulk up with a rope before dragging him away. Sort of gag humor
Haven't seen the originals so can't confirm this, but I think some of the painted or colored pencil effects here might be from the colorist, Richard Isanove. He did the Marvel Knights Daredevil stuff that David Mack wrote for Joe Quesada and those have something of David Mack's post-Sienkiewicz style to them, a mixed-media approach.
At the last Dallas Comic Con I wore a vintage Venom vs Wolverine shirt from the 90's drawn by Keith. Every artist I had sign books voluntarily brought up Keith and had something positive to say about him. Joe Rubenstein, Sam De La Rosa, Humberto Ramos. Sam De La Rosa said he worked with Keith on a few issues of Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters which I totally forgot. I have all those old issues from the black and white boom.
had no idea these were ever made...were these not promoted back in the day ?
Yeah, I collected around this era myself, and I don't recall seeing this book at the time 🤔
i never saw this guy's art at the time, had long ditched superhero comics by then. I was obviously missing out as he's a singular artist, for sure. Some Corben, some Bode bigfoot cartoonyness, some Sienkewicz technique. The main take I get from his art is graffiti influence - massively gestural shapes, pushed proportions and perspective. Feels very hip hop, not heavy metal. Very 90s but loose and humorous. Bisley has this graf flavour too (look at his back cover to Overlord X "Weapon Is My Lyric" LP from 1989, more angular and Japan-influenced but could still imagine it sprayed onto a wall).
whatttt Tom Scioli did Freedom Force? That game was awesome and loved the box art.
Marvel Knights was really awesome at times
Ha love the "who else" signiture. A good portion of my comics are sam keith n ive never came across this one. Only marvel sam keith i have is marvel presents Wolverine. Only marvel i own period acually.
Great video
So much fun on the pages
The left/right positioning of Hulk and Wolverine gets switched around on sequential pages at 18:10, 19:32, and 19:58. Of course it was probably done in order to have a "proper" character foreground/background positions for the two-page spread at 19:32.
The 4th comic killed me
Haha I worked on an unpublished “The Call of Duty” game in 2002. One yeah later Call of Duty came out. Wish I had worked on that instead.
Cover Wolvie looks like Quentin Tarantino.
Nice. I read this recently.
Could you guys Do Scratch series 🙏🏻
there's something really fun about super detail mixed with simplicity, like minecraft with shaders I can't get enough of or detailed pixelart.
Having seen Law and Order UK and the biggest difference I see is that the guns thing is a huge deal but no warrant, where in the US I always felt like the warrant thing was always half the episode.
edit.
I remembered the point I was gonna make about guns in the UK. Snatch is a good example of the "omg a gun" thing.
"It's for protection"
"Protection for what? Ze Germans?"
Wowwww. I need the pretty pretties
Have you guys read I before E?