Yea.. I had to grab this in a 9.8 I love that cover so much. 2 of my favorite comic characters right on the cover going at it. Iconic to me. I loved Wolverine growing up as a kid in the 80’s and 90’s and the art from that era is just the best! Apocalypse is by far my favorite villain ever. He is so underrated. The way the 90’s X-men animated cartoon depicted him mostly unstoppable would always have me amped to see more of him.
13:00 While While it's drawn as a regular bic, I don't have a hard time buying that it's intended to be a spy gadget. Did Mignola think that people give each other engraved bic lighters as gifts? You think he gets a little stab of guilt every time he sees Hellboy on a zippo now?
Hi guys! I'm from Brazil, and here comic books were recoloured in 80's and early 90's. I have the Brazilian copy of this book and the cover is totally different. Our cover was the scene with Wolverine being painted by the the tribe, and I've never had seen the original until today. Thanks guys!
...not feeling Craig Russell’s inks? Wait, WHAT?!? Gentlemen: P. Craig Russell was instrumental in teaching both Mike Mignola and Michael Golden how to ink their own work and therefore finding their mature style. That full page dinosaur drawing with expert black spotting? PCR taught Mignola how to do that, not Frazetta. And yes, I will arm wrestle you over this. ;) If you don’t yet get the genius of the combo of PCR & Mignola it’s my guess you’ve been looking at the wrong examples, meaning Gotham By Gaslight, which was overpowered by a well meaning but ham fisted coloring job. May I steer you instead towards several books: one, Ironwolf, which Mignola first attempted to ink himself and (supposedly) face planted. He then repencilled the inked pages and brought in PCR, and the result is an under appreciated classic that fans could have cared less about but every pro counted the days til it arrived because they knew what was in the air. Two, compare Superman (1987-ish) issues 18,, 23, and Action 600, inked in order by Karl Kesel, PCR, and Mignola himself. I could say more, but comparing and contrasting these three art jobs done roughly in the same time period speak volumes as to the direction Mignola was about to head in. 18 was a step backwards, 23 was a huge leap forward, and 600 was the work by a guy who had learned valuable information in a compressed amount of time as a result. Also, Simonson’s writing kicks ass!! Case in point: Tarzan Vs Predator: READ MOORE COMICS!!! Love ya, fellas! :)
I like this comic mostly because of the art. And one thing that is cool is the hint that Apocalypse was the responsible for the Weapon X project that gave Adamantium to Wolverine.
I got this one for about .50 back in the early 90s. I think I read it back then but havent revisited til this video. Thanks for making it. Id forgotten about how good the artwork was.
Had this book when I was a kid, I don't remember appreciating Mignola as much as I do now but that fight with Robo-Apocalypse was definitely iconic to me.
I bought this new and copied the shit out of it. I took it with me everywhere.i dug it out two days before you guys put this video out and was giddy when I saw it.
I know you guys are not big DC fans but Cosmic Odyssey by Jim Starlin and Mike Mignola is excellent as well. Would love to see you fellas take a look at that!
I was lucky to have started collecting Mignola with early Hellboy and immediately start grabbing his older work. Also love these videos and agree with you two constantly. Glad my algorithm showed me your channel. Well done lads.
Hello guys, comic artist from switzerland here :-) Love our reviews - You got me into getting this one - love his art but prefers his more simples blacks in more recents books.
Man I LOVE when you guys cover Mignola. And as a relative latecomer to this stuff (not a regular superhero comics reader as a kid) I'm always interested to hear how some young people in the 90s reacted to this stuff, like "I prefer Liefeld," then coming around years later. Among many artists who took cues from Mignola, one of my favorites is Eduardo Risso. The heavy spot blacks and designerly shapes; the thin, precise linework with minimal hatching; the big flat color fills or simple gradients with minimal modeling. And then very expressive cartooning and exaggeration in poses and faces.
I still my copy of this one- such a great book. As a student I was swiping hard from this- the water colour effects, the way the trees fade out (mignola did a tutorial in wizard explaining how to do this to grave stones), the leaves in silhouette... amazing. Cheers fellas- hope you’re keeping well!
Just saw that Chiarello and Mignola did the covers to Wolverine 28-30 (After the Jim Lee cover of issue 27!) And if I am right, Mignola inks over Chiarello pencils? :)
You mentioned the Alien book Mignola did, I'd love to see you guys cover that book. Honestly one of my favourite interpretations of a Xenomorph outside of the movies. It really captured how weird and dare I say, alien, that design is. Oh also, the original Alien Versus Predator book would be a welcome surprise!!!
As a kid in the UK during the early 2000s I came across this story in one of the Panini reprints and I remember feeling conflicted about the art... on the one hand it seemed simplistic being a dumb kid I was like this isn't the hyper detailed digitally coloured art I'm used to but I remember feeling like there's something deeper there to enjoy but of course I couldn't figure it at the time but as an adult I love Mignola's work so much his use of chiaroscuro to heavily contrast shadow and light should is legendary... he's similar to Jack Kirby in my head, someone I didn't appreciate until I was older. Anyways great episode as always boys keep up the good work.
You didn't mention the adamantium coated skull Wolverine finds after defeating the Apocalypse robot. I always wanted Wolverine's time with Weapon X to come back Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister.
I have a question guys, when it comes to Wolverine's claws which do you prefer, blades or claws? Basically the way Art Adams draws them vs the way JRJR draws them. I personally prefer the JRJR claws.
besides the thick lips on Wolverine (which look pretty weird) a lot of stuff in this really reminds of Silvestri's work on Wolverine in the early 90s. i'd love for you guys to do a video about those books!
You guys are so right! I couldn't STAND Mike Mignola's art when I was a kid, it looked so WEIRD! I remember first seeing it in Cosmic Odissey and being completely confused by it. A decade later he was one of my undisputed favourite artists! Kids are dumb!
First time I got this Wolverine comic, I didn’t read it , only looked at the art, so the second or third time I did read it and found out it was a robot of Apocalypse not the real one, so for me it was better not to read it. Mignola is a master at his craft.
Yea.. I had to grab this in a 9.8 I love that cover so much. 2 of my favorite comic characters right on the cover going at it. Iconic to me. I loved Wolverine growing up as a kid in the 80’s and 90’s and the art from that era is just the best! Apocalypse is by far my favorite villain ever. He is so underrated. The way the 90’s X-men animated cartoon depicted him mostly unstoppable would always have me amped to see more of him.
Absolutely love Mignola's portrayal of Wolverine in this.
Really miss these kinds of one shots and being able to go to my local comic shop and get something special and stand alone I could actually afford.
13:00 While While it's drawn as a regular bic, I don't have a hard time buying that it's intended to be a spy gadget. Did Mignola think that people give each other engraved bic lighters as gifts? You think he gets a little stab of guilt every time he sees Hellboy on a zippo now?
one of my fav stand alone Wolverine stories I wish we got more prestige format books
Hi guys! I'm from Brazil, and here comic books were recoloured in 80's and early 90's. I have the Brazilian copy of this book and the cover is totally different. Our cover was the scene with Wolverine being painted by the the tribe, and I've never had seen the original until today. Thanks guys!
...not feeling Craig Russell’s inks? Wait, WHAT?!? Gentlemen: P. Craig Russell was instrumental in teaching both Mike Mignola and Michael Golden how to ink their own work and therefore finding their mature style. That full page dinosaur drawing with expert black spotting? PCR taught Mignola how to do that, not Frazetta. And yes, I will arm wrestle you over this. ;) If you don’t yet get the genius of the combo of PCR & Mignola it’s my guess you’ve been looking at the wrong examples, meaning Gotham By Gaslight, which was overpowered by a well meaning but ham fisted coloring job. May I steer you instead towards several books: one, Ironwolf, which Mignola first attempted to ink himself and (supposedly) face planted. He then repencilled the inked pages and brought in PCR, and the result is an under appreciated classic that fans could have cared less about but every pro counted the days til it arrived because they knew what was in the air. Two, compare Superman (1987-ish) issues 18,, 23, and Action 600, inked in order by Karl Kesel, PCR, and Mignola himself. I could say more, but comparing and contrasting these three art jobs done roughly in the same time period speak volumes as to the direction Mignola was about to head in. 18 was a step backwards, 23 was a huge leap forward, and 600 was the work by a guy who had learned valuable information in a compressed amount of time as a result.
Also, Simonson’s writing kicks ass!! Case in point: Tarzan Vs Predator: READ MOORE COMICS!!! Love ya, fellas! :)
I nearly died as a child directly after reading this. Choked on a taco. Great book!
Hard shell or tortilla?
Calling dinosaurs "honkers" is what they did in the original Turok series in Dell Comics.
Mignola channeling some William Stout on those dinosaurs. I dig it
The "honker" term is probably in reference to the original Turok Son of Stone comics...dinosaurs were referred to as "honkers" in those books hahaha
I like this comic mostly because of the art. And one thing that is cool is the hint that Apocalypse was the responsible for the Weapon X project that gave Adamantium to Wolverine.
I got this one for about .50 back in the early 90s. I think I read it back then but havent revisited til this video. Thanks for making it. Id forgotten about how good the artwork was.
Had this book when I was a kid, I don't remember appreciating Mignola as much as I do now but that fight with Robo-Apocalypse was definitely iconic to me.
I bought this new and copied the shit out of it. I took it with me everywhere.i dug it out two days before you guys put this video out and was giddy when I saw it.
I remember buying this in the comic book shop as a child.😌❤️🤘
It's the buns that are the biggest Frazetta influence.
That wolverine v apocalypse fight may be the best fight sequence I've ever seen. Holy shit.
I know you guys are not big DC fans but Cosmic Odyssey by Jim Starlin and Mike Mignola is excellent as well. Would love to see you fellas take a look at that!
I was lucky to have started collecting Mignola with early Hellboy and immediately start grabbing his older work. Also love these videos and agree with you two constantly. Glad my algorithm showed me your channel. Well done lads.
Always liked that comic. Any Wolverine one shots from that time are good. Bloodlust is another great one.
Gorgeous stuff!!
Hello guys, comic artist from switzerland here :-) Love our reviews - You got me into getting this one - love his art but prefers his more simples blacks in more recents books.
Man I LOVE when you guys cover Mignola. And as a relative latecomer to this stuff (not a regular superhero comics reader as a kid) I'm always interested to hear how some young people in the 90s reacted to this stuff, like "I prefer Liefeld," then coming around years later.
Among many artists who took cues from Mignola, one of my favorites is Eduardo Risso. The heavy spot blacks and designerly shapes; the thin, precise linework with minimal hatching; the big flat color fills or simple gradients with minimal modeling. And then very expressive cartooning and exaggeration in poses and faces.
I still my copy of this one- such a great book. As a student I was swiping hard from this- the water colour effects, the way the trees fade out (mignola did a tutorial in wizard explaining how to do this to grave stones), the leaves in silhouette... amazing. Cheers fellas- hope you’re keeping well!
in the Apocalypses/Wolverine fight, it feels like Mike was like I want this to a real fight and someone was like we can't that let make him a robot.
Just saw that Chiarello and Mignola did the covers to Wolverine 28-30 (After the Jim Lee cover of issue 27!) And if I am right, Mignola inks over Chiarello pencils? :)
This book! This book was my first introduction to Wolverine, the story, the art, the colors.... it takes me back!
You mentioned the Alien book Mignola did, I'd love to see you guys cover that book. Honestly one of my favourite interpretations of a Xenomorph outside of the movies. It really captured how weird and dare I say, alien, that design is. Oh also, the original Alien Versus Predator book would be a welcome surprise!!!
You should really cover "Cosmic Odyssey" by Starlin and Mignola. Ad a kid I marveled at Mignol's art in the 4 issues over and over and over and...
As a kid in the UK during the early 2000s I came across this story in one of the Panini reprints and I remember feeling conflicted about the art... on the one hand it seemed simplistic being a dumb kid I was like this isn't the hyper detailed digitally coloured art I'm used to but I remember feeling like there's something deeper there to enjoy but of course I couldn't figure it at the time but as an adult I love Mignola's work so much his use of chiaroscuro to heavily contrast shadow and light should is legendary... he's similar to Jack Kirby in my head, someone I didn't appreciate until I was older. Anyways great episode as always boys keep up the good work.
You didn't mention the adamantium coated skull Wolverine finds after defeating the Apocalypse robot. I always wanted Wolverine's time with Weapon X to come back Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister.
Always loved this book. Thanks for going through it.
I have a question guys, when it comes to Wolverine's claws which do you prefer, blades or claws? Basically the way Art Adams draws them vs the way JRJR draws them. I personally prefer the JRJR claws.
besides the thick lips on Wolverine (which look pretty weird) a lot of stuff in this really reminds of Silvestri's work on Wolverine in the early 90s. i'd love for you guys to do a video about those books!
There are some Bic tricks with the lighters, you can hack em to be mini blow torches. At least you used to be able to.
So funny, I thought I was the only one who didn’t appreciate Mignola as a kid.
It's a sophisticated style. Kids just aren't hip enough to get it. And the people who say they dug it when they were kids are lying.
I wanna say and I could be wrong, but I think the term honkers for dinosaurs is a tribute to Turok.
For sure, it was homage!
Bob Wiacek did some beautiful inking on Paul Smith's Magnificent (& all too brief )Uncanny X-Men run.
Hello. greetings from Mexico. I like your channel. It would be nice if you did a review of Warren Ellis's Planetary.
One of my all time FAVES. Did they ever continue that story? Wolvie had a kid right?
I had been hoping you guys would do this one. I'd like to see you look at the Doctor Strange/Doctor Doom book he did, too.
One o my top favs as a kid 🤘
Kayfabe you are awsome! I see this issue at my job all the time!
More Mignola!
You guys are so right!
I couldn't STAND Mike Mignola's art when I was a kid, it looked so WEIRD! I remember first seeing it in Cosmic Odissey and being completely confused by it.
A decade later he was one of my undisputed favourite artists!
Kids are dumb!
Such a transitional era. Can totally see Miller influence all the way to Risso
Fly away in his contraption 💀💀💀💀💀
Was Burt Reynolds the reference for Wolverine @ 8.40 ?
DO you guys have a video on Doom/Dr. Strange by Mignola? Also, can you make a Mike Mignola Playlist?
Ypu guys should check out Wolverine Contagion. Really interesting style
I wonder if Edward Risso was inspired by this era of Mignola s work ?
I didn’t appreciate Mignola until I went to art school.
Fury could have cracked out that lighter
When is this X-kid going to show up in 616?
First time I got this Wolverine comic, I didn’t read it , only looked at the art, so the second or third time I did read it and found out it was a robot of Apocalypse not the real one, so for me it was better not to read it. Mignola is a master at his craft.
I'm the worst there is at what I do...
A small token coment for the algorithm gods
Ed's right...the A on Apocalypse's costume is some corny shit. I've always disliked that about the character.
squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee