Top 8 Disappointing Vehicles of 2023 (War Thunder)

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  • @sheevpalpatine7588
    @sheevpalpatine7588 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The VT4A1 of china too. Might be a little known issue since china mains are overlooked, but the gun handling, engine power, reverse speed, reload rate, etc are gimped, or mismatched at least. Either they frankensteined the VT4 given its different origins but the A1 variant is definitely not the "downgraded" variant yk, its in fact the latest VT4 variant. Multinational public sources in the forums explain a lot.

    • @BufferThunder
      @BufferThunder 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      really cant accept the fact that the tank is mid irl can you, and its not getting better.

    • @AlphaHeavyGamer
      @AlphaHeavyGamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I don’t know much about the specifications of newer Chinese tanks but considering Gaijin’s interpretation of open source references and execution of vehicles you are probably on point.

    • @sheevpalpatine7588
      @sheevpalpatine7588 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BufferThunder VT4 uses electric turret drives IRL so the gun handling must be on pqr with T80BVM/Leo 2 yk.

    • @shayzadg
      @shayzadg 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have pretty much everything for China and If u pair the Vt4 with wz and ztz it balances it out cuz those vehicles are really good...plus u can bring broken helis and jh7a

    • @brendanharvey3583
      @brendanharvey3583 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BufferThunderits Literally not

  • @TenPatrik
    @TenPatrik 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    You kinda forgot about the Leclerc AZUR could of have paired it with the PSO , because the Leclercs are and have been for some time in a terrible state , but gaijin still refused the idea of the 5Sec reaload due to "balance" and the real armour values , plus the azur didnt gave us any improvement , just some slap on weight that doesnt do anything , no OFL 120 F2 Either its just awful how Gaijin really hates French vehicles , air seems Ok but ground yeah no.

    • @AlphaHeavyGamer
      @AlphaHeavyGamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You are absolutely correct. The Azur should have been there.

  • @AgentZombie6021
    @AgentZombie6021 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    my top 8, in no particular order
    1 - Leclerc AZUR (French players waited a full year to receive a downgraded version of their existing mediocre MBT. The very least the PSO it's often compared to is in fact an actual improvement over prior leopards, given the extra armor comes at no decrease in mobility and the UFP is in fact stronger.)
    2 - Tornado F3 (same reasons you listed)
    3 - Ariete AMV PT1 (Italian players waited years to get a tank at 11.7 that was worse than the existing 11.0 MBTs still are, and it also nerfed the existing arietes by replacing their round with the inferior DM53, which traded the amazing spalling for a completely unnoticeable increase in pen.)
    4 - Mig 29SMT (was invalidated pretty much the same update it was added in due to F-16 FM buffs, then was stomped on next update with Germany getting just an objectively better version)
    5 - Lynx KF41 (Same reasons listed)
    6 - T-90M, M1A2 SEP V2, VT-4A1 (Now I don't think any of these tanks are bad at all, I do enjoy my time with all of them. But compared to the 2A7V and Strv 122+ these tanks just don't feel like they stack up, and in fact most feel like they could've been added a few updates prior.)
    7 - F-15A (Not a bad plane by any means, but also doesn't really feel outstanding either given it's the update poster boy. I see no reason to use the US version over the F-16C)
    8 - The entire French Navy (This was added when nations were rocking ships like Scharnhorst, Kronshstadt, Hood, Alaska, etc. You couldn't give the French a single competing vehicle? In an update dedicated to the french navy, the french navy was the worst addition of that update.)

    • @AlphaHeavyGamer
      @AlphaHeavyGamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spot on observations for all the vehicles. I was really close to adding the F-15. It’s flight performance is amazing but the 7Ms against the R-27ER make it not really something I have to get. I’m fine with the F-16C as well.

  • @tictaculer
    @tictaculer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    the most stupid part of the sea harier frs2 early is that i could not have existed irl

    • @AlphaHeavyGamer
      @AlphaHeavyGamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      💯

    • @tictaculer
      @tictaculer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AlphaHeavyGamer the only reason i even spaded it is becuase i am the "Brit" main in mt freind group with every ground and air vehical spaded

  • @Bergebis
    @Bergebis 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the Swiss argument will be interesting - In the air, a Swiss tree would be far more useful for the German tree. However, on the ground, the Swiss would fill in a number of capability gaps to the French with their APHE and stabilizers.
    Additionally, the Swiss have historically used more French aircraft and tanks, and made more design collaborations with French weapon systems and turrets.

    • @AlphaHeavyGamer
      @AlphaHeavyGamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great perspective on the Swiss. I would like to see more Swiss vehicles going forward. Gaijin has been slow to integrate them.

  • @kalashnidoge
    @kalashnidoge 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Italy ground in the newest update. Moving Ariete AMV to rank 8 instead of new vehicles is a dissapointment

  • @MrJarvisful
    @MrJarvisful 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did we get a merkava last year?

  • @politicalmonkeyfan
    @politicalmonkeyfan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Time stamps for vehicles:
    Vehicle #1: 0:48
    Vehicle #2: 1:57
    Vehicle #3: 2:56
    Vehicle #4: 4:07
    Vehicle #5: 5:11
    Vehicle #6: 6:00
    Vehicle #7: 6:53
    Vehicle #8: 8:11

  • @jasperhunter8386
    @jasperhunter8386 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love how 2 is from GB, its a hard life.

  • @MrJarvisful
    @MrJarvisful 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Israel finally gets a top tier light tank and its a m113 tow launcher. It took them that long to release a reskin

  • @Marcel0FF
    @Marcel0FF 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For Germany a jas 35 or a F5e Premium would be much better, an F18 that America doesnt even have would make no sense.

    • @noahhuls
      @noahhuls 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what is a JAS35, and why would an F-5E make sense for germany did they ever have one ?

    • @AlphaHeavyGamer
      @AlphaHeavyGamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My reasoning for a Swiss F-18C is that Swiss vehicles are already in the German tree. The Hunter F.58 from the Swiss Air Force is in the German tree right now as a squadron vehicle. Also the F-18C was operated by the USN.

    • @Marcel0FF
      @Marcel0FF 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@noahhuls Jas 35 Viggen was operated by Austria... And F5s were operated by Switzerland and were leased to austria...
      Adolf was an austrian... Austria was part of the german reich unlike switzerland. But both speak german aswell.
      I agree a f18 would makes sense but in a future update.

  • @JamalWitherSpoon
    @JamalWitherSpoon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I personally liked the SMT just for the Zhuk radar, but the F-16c was more enjoyable for me.

  • @wolflittlepsycho3437
    @wolflittlepsycho3437 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Type 10 is weak and its transmition is wrong, reload speed is wrong and so on. I am sad that japan and germany have little to no guided CAS...

    • @AlphaHeavyGamer
      @AlphaHeavyGamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, hopefully things will change this year.

  • @hiphip4808
    @hiphip4808 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the most disappointing vehicle I played this year was the Mirage 2000 5F mainly due to the incorrect missiles and missile count, when it was added I could understand the Magic 2s and R530s, but it could have at least been given the 6 missiles, and when the SMT and F16C, or even F15 and Su27, it could have gotten MICA IR in some nerfed capacity. I’m not a fan of the Magic 2 but that could just be a skill issue.
    In terms of the Sep V2, this was a tank I did not want to see added because it adds nothing, and the Sep V3 we know almost nothing about armor wise.
    And the PSO, what did you guys expect lmao, Germany already had the best tanks for years with the 2A5, and when the 2A6 was added Germany was even more dominant, the 2A6 was still relevant until the 2A7 was added, people just overhype vehicles and get disappointed, you see this with the T90A for Russia, and even somewhat the T90M, except we all knew it was going to be survivable but with no ability to escape.

    • @AlphaHeavyGamer
      @AlphaHeavyGamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great points on the SEP V2 and PSO. I liked the 5F for it’s ground pounding capabilities. It would have been great to get a Mica but considering how advanced that missile is it would have been so severely gimped by Gaijin that it would have been a disgrace.

  • @decoder2722
    @decoder2722 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I feel like the f15 launch was quite a bad one, playing the country that made the f15 (usa) is annoying, the missles are not as good as the japanese or Israeli f15s, if they gave the f15 the aamrams but just kinda made the aamrams worse-ish it woukd be nice or they shoukd have just added it before the f16

    • @johnwhite4960
      @johnwhite4960 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You nailed it. USA gets saddled with really gimped weapon kits for vehicles that under perform.

    • @stormjet814
      @stormjet814 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      the python 3 is worse than the aim9M

    • @decoder2722
      @decoder2722 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @stormjet814 like how?

    • @decoder2722
      @decoder2722 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnwhite4960 let's just hope that we get the f15C and hope it has amraams

    • @johnwhite4960
      @johnwhite4960 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@decoder2722 I've thought allot about the a addition of the Amraam, in it's current state. It would prolly just make top tier unbearable. Maybe I'm a pessimist, but it's already terrible with the SU27 singing 10 OP missiles per bird in the sky. Something has to give tho, cutting off USA mains nuts is not the answer

  • @eleonore_233
    @eleonore_233 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello, I would like to ask if you would allow me to translate your video content into Chinese and publish it on other websites. Of course these actions will not bring me financial benefits. I just love your video content and hope to bring more Chinese viewers to your original videos. In short, it's a porter. I will follow the basic rules of video porting: tag your channel name and tag the original link, and I will only add translated Chinese subtitles. The above is machine translated because I was concerned about ambiguity. Looking forward to your reply, thank you.

    • @AlphaHeavyGamer
      @AlphaHeavyGamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching and sure you can. I have no problems as long you tag the channel name and the link.

    • @eleonore_233
      @eleonore_233 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thx!@@AlphaHeavyGamer

  • @guilhermevitorio273
    @guilhermevitorio273 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And still no mig-31 😢

    • @AlphaHeavyGamer
      @AlphaHeavyGamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, maybe this year. I’d love to see that beautiful beast in the game soon.

  • @noahhuls
    @noahhuls 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    at 2:35 you talk about 9M having better IRCCM than the R-73 which is blatently false
    the 9M has the worst IRCCM ingame which is not an opinion but a fact

    • @anrw886
      @anrw886 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Disagree. Depends on play style mostly. Aim9m has often more reliability IRCCM at range and especially at top and side aspect. R73 has better IRCCM in head-on and rear aspect, closer the better. I go for top down shots a lot in my gripen with aim9m, and go for mostly rear aspects with R73s

    • @noahhuls
      @noahhuls 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anrw886 the IRCCM of the 9M goes blind the IRCCM of the R-73 and Magic 2 goes into hyperfocus mode
      this means that if you keep flaring and turn a bit the 9M will just miss where the Magic 2 or R-73 will not

    • @anrw886
      @anrw886 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@noahhuls I know how the IRCCMs work

  • @letucetomato
    @letucetomato 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    vilkas is the worst by far
    way too tall, too slow, spike suck and it's gun don't do shit at it's br

  • @agustinf1372
    @agustinf1372 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tornado it's not a dissapointment, its performance it's the one of an interceptor, not a dogfighter...

    • @AlphaHeavyGamer
      @AlphaHeavyGamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yep, I said as much but it didn’t stop people from making sad British noises lol.

    • @stoyantodorov2133
      @stoyantodorov2133 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean sure, the plane is performing as expected of a missile bus but it should have been added earlier. I think it’s reasonable to be disappointed that one of the most anticipated jets for the whole British tech tree was DOA and just a sidegrade to the FGR2. Honestly, if FGR 2 is given the aim9m (it is capable of it) it will be an UPGRADE over the aircraft that replaced it IRL. Kinda wild to think about, but I guess it shows how bad the tornado fits in WT. It’s the Lighting F6 situation all over again.

    • @anrw886
      @anrw886 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is NOTHING TO INTERCEPT what is with you people lmfao

  • @M65V19
    @M65V19 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only top-tiers? I can't believe that people play only top-tiers and think that everything below is good.

    • @Bingusgingus
      @Bingusgingus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      did you watch the video at all

    • @M65V19
      @M65V19 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BingusgingusYes, I did. I know that it is author's opinion, but non the less.