I haven't played WoT in a long while. I miss it, but I won't come back because of it's current state. I still remeber when Murovanka had the "magic forest" where fools and lemings went to die. But it was hilarious.
someone in general chat got chat banned for saying "oxymoron". the entire general chat rushed in explaining to the mod what "oxymoron" means, since they clearly only saw the "moron" part. they proceeded to ban people trying to explain the word.
World of Tanks can be fun, but it's equally frustrating. The best part are the extended battles- WT is 1 shot simulator where armor never matters (unless you're uptiered yippee fun mechanic! )@@arias80rp10
You are wrong @@arias80rp10... WoT WAS good at some point.... I played this shit for 5 years, I went through the old and new. generations (xbox 360 and xbox one S), and I can say, the old generation was a thousand times better, the players were smarter, they used strategies, they knew the mechanics, and the game itself was much less P2W than on the new generation and PC
Yeah, It's like a movement/protest, if one guy is walking around screaming shit, nobody will take it seriously. But if 1000 will walk around, maybe some more people will take it seriously.
@@falsebanneduser9428 you do know that the EU and NA combined (which is mostly the english speaking community) are smaller than the RU server so ofcourse the don't care
Guys, for WG there is ONLY ONE balance in this game that really matters: It is the balance between "Squeezing out the most money" and "Keeping the frustration level just low enough that not too many players quit". That's it - nothing more, nothing less. Sorry to say that, but they don't give a shit about your wishes for a better gaming experience!!!
@@MagicMan508 thats true, but they want mo money, and doing a shit for the players. There are so many wrong things and they are not interested to fix it. And they earn a lot of money, believe me.
They should remove the camo and bounce mechanics entirely. I see you, you see me, I fire a round and hit it does dmg. This BS of firing premium 152mm ammo and bouncing medium tanks that suddenly vanish is utter retardation.
Good riddance, health bars on armored vehicles are shite. That's not how armored combat works. WT is certainly less forgiving as a result, but I'll take it any day over HP and rng accuracy
@@bigbenny505 far more rewarding to find weakspots or knowing and abusing your enemies tank in WT. much more skill based in Realistic Ground mode. And AGREE! far more brutal and unforgiving, yet many times more rewarding
@@davidcaldwell6651 how...h-hows that 5.7 br tiger going? Oh? You are somehow going up against post 45' tanks? (Obviously I'm just memeing here, WT> WoT always)
Man this game used to get me through the days and nights with the buddies trolling people with KV-2s and the ELC before they removed it, I tried to play it again recently and eh. It’s better in the memories. Shoot I remember when everyone used to make fun and universally hate gold ammo spammers. Now everyone spams it
@@dangernoodle8813 I play war thunder because it has a good aircraft mode and I though the aiming was less RNG. turns out the aiming is just a different kind of RNG. but at least there's no premium ammo. that sounds like a real good way to kill a player base. then again, another good way to kill a player base is to increase repair costs and reduce SL/RP gained by 30-50%. the only "right" choice is really just not to play.
@@stagiestpizza yea, the fucking repair cost is utterly, absolutely displeasing to say the least, literally, imagine having to pay 30k SLs just to repair a bomber,ffs and the economy is in shambles, hell, not even a few games could recover the SLs used in repairs, unless you pay for fucking premium and gaijin's attempt to "fix" the issue made it even worst.
WOT gives me a sense that there is a hidden hand at work always, making me miss shots, or my team or the other team miss shots, or shots not doing much when they do hit or just the opposite depending on the hidden hand. I never get that same feeling in WT. Plus I don't see a lot of 1942 tanks fitting 1960's tanks or even 1950's tanks. A Tiger still has a powerful presence to it in WT that is totally lost in WOT. WOT has to many "magical items" you can equip that can make you tank invisible, or faster or shoot faster or hit harder or all that at once that only folks with the 29,000 battles have who aren't supposed to need them in their already OP tanks. With a team of 4 of them on one side the match is over in less than 5 min. Everyone has the same stuff in WT for the most part and it shows. The matches are much more of a even game and fun. When I first started playing WT and didn't know what was what I could at least see who was shooting me and where they were and could back up or something. In WOT my first game I was hit like five times and never saw a tank on the enemy side even on the mini map, I died in like 3 sec into the match my first tier 3 game.
well is an arcade Game and sometimes it's very unfair I got a op Tank with High level crew with events and it's quite op the tier X american I don't renbember the name is the one with the auto Leader gun
I wish warthunder had better MM. Just had an air RB match with 1 top tiet fighter, one .3 below and the rest -1. The Enemy team had 7 top-tier aircraft.
@AdBlock plus The problem is not that it has a shitton of survivability, because it doesn't - the problem is that it appears from thin air and goes faster than your turret could traverse to aim at it.
War Thunder: FL11 turret SA50 auto-clicker from 1954 in mid WWII br is cancer for an obvious and fixable reason that wont get moved because company scrips go brrr. WoT: completely butt pulled magic forest BS giving company license to never fix anything.
"No one will buy a premium that will be nerfed in the future" meanwhile War Thunder whales buying the Harrier GR.1 just for it to be nerfed 3 days after release
It is cheap (in game money). Maybe that is problem for low levels, because if you want to upgrade tank to full faster, you will not use premium ammo, but on high levels you get much much more money for a game, than premium ammo cost. (Im talking about Blitz. Maybe in pc wot situation is different)
@@stepan777 i play both blitz and standard... it is different... on standard the cost of premium ammo varies wildly depending on the tank and tier level... ive seen it as low as 2k all the way up to 20k so it just varies on what patch were in and what not
I stopped playing this game years ago when weakspots disappeared. And what I left was World of Tanks Blitz, which doesn't have any artillery. I can't believe people are still giving Wargaming money for their terrible game.
@@chrisbruce5711 that's exactly what game I left to play. After 2 years of work, I have unlocked rank 1-4 of GER, USA, and USSR and I never plan to unlock anything higher than that. My rule is no vehicles whose development started after 1946. The game is incredibly fun now that I have finished my grind.
The problem is that in the past 5 years almost no updates were made to make the game more fun. All additions are there to: 1. Made the game more addictive (not enjoyable. Addictive.) 2. Make us pay more. All the mechanics are basically copy and paste from top grossing mobile free to play games. Daily missions, ranked battles, shorter game sessions because of EBRs, gold ammo and simplified tank models, casino Christmas boxes all have one on common - they make you return to the game more often and spend more cash.
Whenever I played WoT I would play the old campaign mode. I used to be good at the multiplayer but then the game became heavily pay to win and they removed the campaign. I never really played it after that.
@WarClock172 I didn't say I was bad at the game, did I?, I just got bored of playing the same gamemode for the past 6 years...Gaijin hasn't done anything but remove gamemodes and fuck up the balance while making the grind worse, but I bet your too young to remember old WT so it doesn't matter to you anyway.
@WarClock172 the grind has been continually getting worse over the course of years, what they are doing now is too little too late. war thunder just isnt what it used to be, and it's mostly the fault of shit balancing, and a ridiculously compressed BR which instead of fixing, they continue to make the problem worse by releasing a newer vehicle every few months or so, alongside a 60 (now 70) dollar premium, they're just lining their pockets now.
I like it too, only worrying thing is that it rewards those FV4005 scrubs that sit in base or a corridor for 10 minutes to get that one pen before theyre killed. With this idea they would never miss that one shot
@@holmes6171 but it makes sense...i mean a tank firing at another tank WITHIN 500 METERS wouldnt miss...especially with the speeds of the shells...1200 meters a second...and you fired at a target 250m away...that shell should be there literally as you fire...but with WoT using the reticle system it makes sense that the longer you aim the more accurate your shot will be...you rush the shot it's gonna miss...but has a chance to hit cuz you know...rng
@@holmes6171 That's extremely worth. Oh no, I just got slapped for 1750 damage, but now that tank is out of the game for twenty seconds. Makes it extremely vulnerable
My coment egzaqly, l sad in blic premium delas less damidge, and nobody is complayning, and l didnt even now that in wot premijum shels deals same damedge, cud not belive it.
Right because it’s perfectly reasonable. Making premium deal the same damage just makes it very obviously pay to win. They can obviously have tanks like the 113 which have I suppose more HEAT damage, but then it also has downsides with traverse, accuracy, and armour on gen hull.
Yes, it does, and we also have prammo downsides, like HEAT splashing on tracks or not going through obstacles, APCR losing pen over distances and etc. Also WoT Blitz uses tank hitskins, and you are actively encouraged to aim for cupolas or weakspots, like the Chieftan's cupola, VK45B's turret cheeks, Chimera's cupola, etc etc. That and the lack of arty and impennable tanks make me enjoy Blitz over PC
but we still have weakspots on most tanks. like the only thing thats broken is the vk90 and the tier10 Amx m4 but they are rare af anyways. I only shoot gold in my lights and sometimes mediums
As someone that used to play War Thunder and watch the Mighty Jingles play Wot, I'm so happy I left this gaming genre. These games are literally designed to be so miserable you feel forced to spend money.
same many years ago for me, all it does is give you anxiety and Possibly a high blood pressure stroke. the older you get this game should be relayed as a health risk.
I left the game as soon as the Chrysler GF was added into the game, that was the tipping point of the game going bad. Before that we had balanced premiums, at least most of them. The MM was flooded with a tank that had 175mm of pen with standard rounds and 250-ish with premium rounds. All while you can easily side scrape and have 300+ effective armor
@@gianurwiler5098 destruction 100. But to answer your question, they exist in world of planes, one of the shittiest arcade plane flying bullshit ever made, literally you can get better plane games on you mobile than that garbage.
The chat with enemy was the best part. "Be gentle" when one guy was left against 8 and about be abused. We would reply "Lube up" Or we would arrange 1v1 in game when the abuse between two players got salty. lol
I'm F2P, never paid for a game or made serious ingame purchase. After few years of playing and way too many matches i reached tier X. In WT i got to top tier in 3k matches, and costs of tanks wasnt serious issue. While grinding i could save a lot of money. Thats fundamental mistake in WOT. You need to use premium ammo to pen a lot meta tanks and you lose big amount of money, even before buying tank you wanted.
I just love how the EBR is universally hated by both WT and WoT. Is like the Itter Castle battle. edit: " Just wathcing the powerpuff girls intro made me think. War Thundar has EBRs and many dumb matchmakes. Now we know when WT will get worse people. " a whole year ago I said that now aged milk bag bruh💀
When every man and his dog had an EBR in War Thunder during the event it was a nightmare, but now you only see one from time to time and I rarely get killed by one. Same story when they put the Maus back in for a few days and currently with the PT-76-57.
I find that the EBR's in WT were just annoyingly fast rather than just straight broken to the point of making every other light in the game obsolete like how WoT has it.
Played WoT 2011-2014. Always surprised there are still people subjecting themselves to this game. The problems that made WoT an unpleasant experience back then are still there, while WG added new issues to the mix.
@@thunderball11111 still overall gameplay and balance was better back then. Long an close games were a regular thing. You didn't have to memorize the armor models and view ranges of a million different tanks and every tank had strengths and weaknesses
@@thunderball11111 Well yes, mechanically I agree, obviously, we have physics and HD models now and the game looks a lot better. Regarding the fundamental gameplay tho, I disagree. Less tanks means everyone is more familiar with the strengths and weaknesses of each tank, every tank had frontal weakspots and maybe not the low tiers, but the high tiers were ballanced. Exactly the opposite of what it is today. There are so many items, gadgets and unneccessary tanks in the game, you simply cannot have everything in your head anymore.
I remember playing WoT for years. From little games on my dad's laptop to my own games on the Xbox. I played for years.. and only ever got to the Hellcat on the American tree. The minute War Thunder, with its cool amphibious tanks and multiple turrets and planes and integrated air-ground combat, ported to Xbox I jumped ship. I don't regret a thing, except occasionally I do miss the atmosphere of so WoT maps, like the Scottish one(?) with the chasm in the middle and whichever one was dark, wet, bumpy and flat and had a castle in the dead centre.. I think it was French?
Stop saying “play war thunder” I’m already addicted to 1 shit game why would I want to be addicted to 2 shit games? I’m not going to play war thunder, or wot blitz or any of that garbage so stop asking me to lol
I wouldn't say you should because you'll probably get oneshotted instantly from some flippin 15000 meter shitlord-camper who got a lucky shot on your ammo
@@nash-p Than we not longer Pay... To all Tankers, pls look and share this Video from Claus Kellerman about Matchmaker can be balanced over Night: th-cam.com/video/QdRVroTO7UM/w-d-xo.html
One of the reasons all chat got removed was because dead players would just tell the enemy team the position of their allies. For me, a solution to this would be to make dead players have their own chat, and be muted to players still in the game.
An event where all players are artillery and they must capture multiple points without the enemy knowing. Two in each team must relay the capture point to the other team.
I used to enjoy this game a lot back in 2013/14, thought I'd give it a try again after all these years. _Left after 2 days_ A shame they had to ruin it. Even youtube knows this, so it gave me a warthunder ad on this video.
@@topace1038 Yeah, I know. I've been playing wt air ab/rb for a good while, as well as a little bit of ground rb. It has issues, but a lot of them you can get past if you don't sell your soul to the grind and just enjoy the gameplay. _(Except for packet loss, that's something you can't fix yourself.)_
I played the game seriously 2011-2013, I got bad every so often for reminders why I quit. Back then lead developer was SerB, kind of glaring how bad it went downhill when he left.
The biggest shame is that WT is slowly going in the same path of WoT. Pay to win is becoming the order of the day. I dont understand how do they think it is normal that players need to spend hundreds of euros per year to properly play their game. And like that is not enough, these lvl100 people are going seal clubbing in tier 3-4. I have seen people which had played 7000+ battles with one tank, and they have had 100 others they played with....
@@JohnDoe-is1tlas a former WOT turned WT ground main I would disagree, the recent update should hopefully fix some BR compression but [BOSSSS] ruins the game from 6.0-7.0 try airplanes and navel or even take a break like I did. Personally I main US ground forces.
@@kyleplatter8954 They added the VIDAR at 7.7 a premium howitzer in Sweden that fires ever 8 seconds by default, has generation 1 thermals (after nerfing it down from generation 2 thermals) a turret slew of 16~ degrees a second, top reverse acceleration of -38km/h which it reaches in under 5 seconds, it can aim straight up, it has VT-fuze shots for killing helicopters and planes (will often see people with gamepad aim lock and cheats using it to plink planes 3km away from the battlefield) I bought it yesterday to make sure I wasn't tripping and you can easily go 8 kills 0 deaths in it at 9.3 BR. They didnt decompress any BRs at all, they moved a ton of 7.7 vehicles that didnt need to move, to 8.0 and 8.3. In a plane you are still likely to encounter next generation fighter jets and sometimes two generations ahead fighter jets against your supersonic jet that doesnt have any missiles or radar or counter measures at all, but this is somehow fair and balanced gameplay. When you see people flying premium mirages that can reach the enemy bases before the enemy themselves finishes passing over the bases, there is no balance in your BR. I genuinely believe that the USSR tanks that all got moved up .4 or .3 in BR was to stop them being able to kill the Maus. Ever since they added a few newer tanks to the USSR with better penetration, I see Maus' often getting destroyed quickly rather than soaking up all the APHE. Now it's back to how the Maus _was_ where it soaks up APHE and HEAT because only a very few tanks from _some_ nations get APFSDS at that BR.
I was both a beta tester for WoT and WT. the biggest beef I had with WoT was the invisible tanks. if you play it, you know. INFURIATING. looking at an enemy well away and all of a sudden he just goes *pop* gone. invisible. ridiculous. don't have to deal with that in WT.
@@PSYCHOpaty4 low load distance, ping, server lag, they just hide better; low resolution? At least a lot of time you can still see them and not disappearing as a feature
@@PSYCHOpaty4 it's a Bug with the anti cheat: It works like this: Tanks you should not be able to see (behind Walls etc) are not displayed to you, to prevent Wallhack cheats. Sometimes it fails and let's tanks disappear that you should be seeing.
What i hate most about wot is that combining terrible map designs with artilery stuns and tds waiting for you to peek a micro milimeter to fk u up fromm millions of angles makes u feel unable to move anywhere. You are fixated in one position for couple of minutes until something happens and then u move fuckiing 25 centimeters to another position and stay there bc arty will hit u and tds will eat u alive. im saying that there is no room to breathe when u are driving. U are always stuck by somneone destroying you. Espeically arty stuns. CANCER.
Yeah, the rng with accuracy is something I have beef with. I thought that once I got the most accurate gun in the game all of that would be behind me. I was proven wrong when trying to save a team mate from an M103 in my Grille 15. It's true that I never missed a shot on the M103 since all of the tank covered the outer aiming circle. I could not miss, but the game still found places for every single one of my shots to bounce... off an M103. It wasn't until the M103 beat my team mate that the game finally allowed my shots to go where I was aiming. "Thanks game, but it's too late. I've lost my spotter and I am not going to win against this guy once he get's to me." I wish the game gave me that kind of protection. "Go ahead, do as you please. You are untouchable in this match. I'm gonna fling the rounds of every opposing player absolutely everywhere." I am absolutely convinced that the game has decided which team will win as soon as it has put the teams together, and only every once in a while are you ever able to overcome the game's planning.
Definitely true. I've had matches where I missed every single one of my shots, even fully aimed and on a part of the tank I could pen. This doesn't happen on blitz for me though, and that's why I like it. Sure there's bad RNG moments too, but it doesn't feel like it was decided like it is in wot pc. And generally, wotb is more fun imo
Ever get the feeling of helplessness when you get 14 kills while in game and still lose the game because the team just…sucks? Yea, That’s at tier 8 and since then I just quit.
@@topgear3128 I actually did 4300 damage in total. I clutched in my vk 100.01p and had 256 HP after soloing 8 enemies. Then a half hp UDES 14 flanked around and finished me off.
@@widerkollektor5396 that sucks. I also don't like imbalance in match making, often enemy's team has more heavy tanks or artillery, tank class does matter, not only tier.
actually in wt, for ammo that comes from modifications you have to play for that modification, and shooting those rounds in game still have a price, just at a lower price only the default ammo is free
@@derpking3970 Premium ammo in WoT does not cost premium money (gold is the equivalent to golden eagles) since ~2012. Funnily enough WT has the exact same premium as WoT. They just don't state it quite as obviously and it's less important as shells costs are less in general and repairs higher.
@@racernatorde5318 You can EASILY grind MILLIONS of SL without premiums OR a premium account in War Thunder planes tier 3/4. Your performance ingame heavily impacts your gaining money aswell. In WoT, making millions of silver while not having a premium account and a premium tank is absolutely impossible. That's the main difference. Repair costs don't matter when you can make 40-50k SL in a single match in War Thunder by being good without a premium / premium vehicle. I have played both games and F2P WoT is so insanely difficult in comparison to War Thunder, I'm an average player wo premium whatsoever and NEVER struggled with Silver Lions in WT. Same cannot be said for WoT if I wanted to perform on the top 25% of the match. Loading gold 1/2 of the time was almost required to do consistently good in-game, which is a damn shame, as WoT would be an amazing game if these issues wouldnt be present. One time I did about 3100 damage in Tier VI (WoT) and lost money, the competitive game punishes you for being competitive, lmao.
@@tankingbeast1132 I started playing war thunder for a bit, but the whole every tank can one shot every tank thing was worse than WoT. I stopped playing tanks when warships came out and have tried to jump on maybe three times to see if it changed and it has for the worse. They took the fact that a good arty player could either do decent damage or counter battery off the start and just made them a support unit to track people without doing much damage. Sorry, if you get hit by a 240mm shell, you are dead. It doesn't matter what tank you are in because that is coming down on the lightest armored portion of a tank. Take that along with the fact that gold rounds basically destroyed any amount of armor a tank had and the game failed its' players.
@@Danthrax81 Well, WoWS is adding in stupid things that take away from how the game was built to be played. A cruiser should be sitting near an island, close enough to help the DDs but safe enough that they won't get hit badly by BBs. With all the aircraft modded ships (Ise, Tone, Kersearge, entire new cruiser line, etc.), they have removed that type of play. So now your cruisers need to be in open water to stay semi safe, which means they can't safely be close to the DDs to provide help and instead need to stay near the back by the BBs. The winning team will now be determined by who has the better DD player and that is it.
About maps: I feel like a few years ago when everyone complained Wargaming was just doing corridor maps, games were decided as soon as one of the corridors had been broken and the winning people from there surrounded the other corridors. Nowadays I feel like the pushing sides are death traps. Time and time again one side wins the engagement and then continues to push forward, just to be shot to pieces from a campy hill or bush location. Basically what I see most experienced people do is once they've won one flank they turn around to help the other side or base defense. Only the foolish players keep going and that creates those countless games where the main engagement was won and then a turnaround into a loss happened.
Yep, exactly. This is also one reason why mediums rule the game and heavies are pointless now. You have to have speed to go support the other flank, and most heavies can't do that.
@@TehButterflyEffect i could usually determine a win or loss just by checking how many meds/lights the other team has. if your meds win you basically win the game, unless they go full retard after winning on the med side.
@@basketcase1235 Yeah, and a lot of meds are a lot more powerful than others. The UDES, the TVP50/51, Obj. 430, and a bunch of premium or rewards are so much more powerful than anything else. If one side has them and yours doesn't, you lose.
@@liviuganea4108 you win that bet. I've never ever even considered jumping into that arcade looking game. I liked the weirder maps in WoT though such as Port, Dragon Ridge and revamped Komarin. Oh yes and also Swamp. Don't judge plz. :(
I play WOT for 8 years, I have all tier 10 tanks, i stop playing end uninstal game 3 month ago. 1 WAR GAMING KILL GAME, WHIT CHEATERS. 2 Before you could play without a premium account, now even with premium it's very difficult. 3. Physics is terrifying. 4. The maps are desperate. 5. without cheating modes the game has become unthinkable. 6. Instead of focusing on the real battle of tanks, they're just looking at how to take more money from you. The game becomes more and more unrealistic, intended for children from 12 to 14 years....
And I hope it is still going this way both the game going downhill and slowly on the grave, and you just like me that quit the game for good too, and enjoy else on this hard life we have.
finally someone said it. gold ammo was never a problem, its always been there from the beginning. the problem is WG ate shit or just suddenly smart enough to figured out how to milk the playerbase, because weakpoints all the sudden just disappeared.
@@resko8758 it is a bad Idea if they don't also reduce the price of gold ammo.... If not... You spend way more gold rounds killing a type 5 than before aka more money for wg.... If the alpha of gold is reduced.... The price of gold rounds should be decreased too... Otherwise you fix nothing and just make another problem
@@resko8758 it was brought up a while ago by some of the cc's but has been swept under the carpet.... But seriously you cannot reduce gold alpha without reducing price too.... Imagine spending 5600 credits a shot in the t92 with lowered alpha against say defender....let's not even get started on shooting tier 9 and 10 tanks... Super daft
@@sagiplays3190 Good gameplay. Good mechanics. NO HEALTHBAR. It could be a superb game if its a literal hell while grinding to Top-tier if you're an F2P
yeah as a experienced war thunder player i think it is a amazeing game if you ignore some of the problems like it is pretty realistic and you need to memorize where to shoot instead of just shoot ing it anywhere and their new modren tank update is just copying everything about war thunder imo
It's 2024, and this video is still quite accurate today. Unfortunately, the creator doesn't understand why a bad player is bad, but otherwise, everything still holds true.
I learned to play this game when my poor Pz4 was matched against IS4s, was a suffering, but learned a lot of weak spots and how to exploit them, learned how to take advantage of the armor on my E75 and KV4 and win matches against higher tier tanks, but since the game turned into who spams prem ammo first i retired of the game forever, despite having ten of millions of credits and gold, i felt using that ammo was unfair to anyone, almost like cheating
@@danshakuimo not in blitz and i cant play normal wot bc my pc dont have space for it. Like it switches between gold and silver but its harder to earn bc you cant do more than 6k dmg and repair costs are insane
@@danshakuimoI quit and sold my account back in 2014, I had every premium tank up to that point, almost 70 million credits, and a full 100% crew with 2 skills each. What killed me was the free gold ammo, it made every tank that relied on their armour to perform, moot. My favourite tank, the KV5 is an example. When I'm fighting t6 and below, Im pretty much invincible, as soon as gold ammo came in, I'm useless. I end up switching to french autoloaders, since apparently, "armour don't matter" when everyone is shooting gold.
@@jtucehok p2w bushes, premium vehicles with intentionally OP matchmaker rating, fucked up anachronism in matchmaking where mid ww2 tanks fight post war tanks, huge grinds... The game exists to nudge you to pay
I think I jumped the wot ship when WT introduced ground forces. Especially with being able to knock out people in one shot, and the fact that even lower tier vehicles still have a fighting chance because chances to cause spalling/over pressure against a higher BR vehicle. Learning weak spots was and is still important but situational awareness and being the first to fire means more and idiot higher tiers can’t just fall back on their better armor and larger hp pool. Also had a shitty 2005 giant dell laptop that gave 10 FPS and 100-300 ping depending so it often ended in me getting killed as soon as I ended up in a fight and that action caused lag. So I have a shit w/d % of 46-48%.
@@TheTankCrew you now in 2014 the game was different and no war thunder need skills instead wot its shitty. in wot the maps are too small and the annoing fact that u rarely one shot the enemy makes the game shitty
leets add OP plane with epic climbing speed, 4 unlimited G missiles and put it against low rank jets, make peoples buy it, put it at almost top tier few days after. Profit.
Just remove premium shells so players actually use their brains to play instead of just spamming shells and penetrating everything. F2p players like me will instantly join back
premium shells are fine but they need drawbacks. Just like armor needs drawbacks and dpm need drawbacks. Currently its out of whack. Its not even premium anymore since its paid for by excess silver
@@XHitsugaX Yep so-called "premium" shells (even though they are not really premium anymore) need drawbacks like lower damage. Also HEAT should do more damage against lighter armored targets and APCR could do actually less damage against lighter armored targets. But in general i think that WG needs to do a major damage system overhaul, since its same as it was during the launch.
then you need to adress alot of overpowered tanks in order to remove the "gold"Shells, the main Reasons many started to use Gold ammo or atleast have some, is not because ppl using or not using their brains, when their are few overpowerd "Sovjet" tanks "mostly" vs historical tanks, whom some have been nerfed like Tiger I as an exampel, doesn t matter if I use the historical or the long barrel 88 on the Tiger I, I will still have a frustraded & Salty MM, but loading some Gold Shells that will pen or do some damage to bigger or newer overpowerd tanks... then its win-win, you get to roll in you Overpowered tank, while I still roll in my Old Tiger I & able to get your ass anyway, even if it cost me some from my wallet. it doesn t matter, Wargaming only care about making Money, Yes they listen to the Comunity Contribituers, but They get the final Say... & as many Game Devs these days is " making crap ton of Money or less ton of Money? what do you think they will do? make overpowered tanks & add gold ammo & premium tanks = tons of cash.
there was several, gold ammo possible to buy by credits changed mm arty nerf the problem is that community wants changes but every change is bad cuz everybody have the personal best solutions
i have the 130pm, i'm still PISSED OFF at time i didn't pen side of a borrat with gold ammo... and yes, this is enough pen to pierce through SEVEN borrat, counting both side armor.
This video hit spot on. This highlighted the things I miss from back when I played more actively before all the autoloader/reloader meta. The removal of weak spots with the penetration indicator actually telling you the actual thickness instead of just raw value. It means people don't even have to guess if somebody is over-angling or not, they can just wait for the green marker and boom.
Hello from CIS segment Some people from our clanwars-community know the EXACT person who balanced the 10th-tier Chieftan. It's Continental_Atlantic [WG], formerly one of the clan leaders. Wargaming hired this degenarate for some unknown reason to make clanwars better and they managed to give him an opportunity to balance a Chieftan as a prize tank. Thus, it has become his favorite tank (5622 battles and 4k average damage vs B-C 25 t with 1916 battles and 2400 average damage at 2nd place). In fact, he made up a tank for himself and now all community all over the world suffers.
I played WoT every day for 5 years, i had so much fun with it for a while. but i left it a couple years ago and havent looked back. The WoT I loved is dead
@@aletron4750 Imagine not being able to take more than one vehicle out per match. Imagine not having planes. Imagine having to play one specific tank to grind out the next one after it. War Thunder's grind is not nearly as bad as WoT's other than the fact that you have to create lineups (meaning you complete the whole tech tree instead of just one line). You can research any tank with any vehicle in any lineup. The same goes for premiums. It's just made better by the fact that you can respawn and get more XP (or RP) per battle.
I used to play this a lot and have over 15k battles in total. I thought WT was lame and bounced off one short try of it. Recently, I gave it a shot again and I can't believe how much better it is than WoT. WoT is gross to me right now. So much wasted time...
If u fight a type5 heavy with a s conq head on you deserve to lose(thats kind of the point super heavy vs mobile heavy), a s conq has so much more which a type 5 doesnt have, speed, turning speed etc. Heavies are no heavies anymore everyone can pen a type 5 heavy if you shoot prem there is not point in playing type 5 at all if prem ammo doesnt get nerfed.
ya it was a pretty bad comparison lol. even if the s conq were to shoot shells that did less damage it wouldn't change the fact that the s conq is still a vastly superior tank over a type 5.
True a 1v1 comparison doesn’t make much sense I think there needs to be a combination of pen and dmg nerf, credits isn’t enough of a drawback to shooting prem and making the pen significantly worse defeats the premium ammo purpose, it makes more sense to have 5-10%less dpm.
@@semperfi2014mn yea, i have no clue how he thought this was a good comparison. What S conq face to face fights a Type 5. It just doesnt happen. Nor does a m6 straight up 1v1 a 252u solo and even with gold, that would be stupid and always end in a lose.
Yeah definitely agree with you. The whole point of superheavies are to be able to have that all round survivebility, this comparison is like saying the violin can’t play as low as the cello so it sucks.
@@williewilson2250 ah right. Forgot about that one. Yeah it's a cold war tank so it has lol pen magic bullshit rounds that rip through anything made before 1946.
Removing team damage sucks, for fun reasons but also when you hug an enemy and everyone just fires anyway. Before people would be way more careful now arty and everything just spams anyway. I miss all chat. The troll and rage was so fun.
@@LukeEvans55 I remember being banned for more than a year, i was so happy when they turned it off. Anyway maybe it was better for my nerves to be banned and not being able to play it.
Turning off the chat is the best thing ever added to this game. It should be added to every game so you don’t have to read all those insults. Never important is said in the chat anyway
All chat and Overpowered AP and HE arty shells were the best... I still remember the day I used my tier 8 german arty 2000 (1500-2500) HE damage shell to oneshot a full hp tier 10 Type 57 heavy (2250 damage, got quite good RNG). Everybody was incredibly disgusted when it happened, both allies and enemies :D
one of the weirdest moments I have had in wot was when I shot from like 400m away to a tank driving sideways and the shell landed about 50m short and I still damaged it. I even asked the guy for the replay and on both of our screens it wasn't even close
10:45 well I have average internet but sometimes my tank drives forward while I'm not touching anything.... or my turret rotates to completely different direction than I look
@@warmike Both are bad, using one to justify the other perpetuates the issue. Balancing Prammo makes OP tanks even more OP, balancing OP tanks makes Prammo nullify the point of armor.
Still have 14,000 gold on WOT for 5 hears now. They won't let me switch it to world of ships. So it just sits there since i stopped playing. I fear ships is going in a similar direction as well.
Mate, you have to realize one thing : WG wants his game unfair so players have to spend real money in " special" ammo, OP premium tanks or faster progression , its in human nature the need to have advantage over the others and WG uses that to milk the players...its basic psychology. If you all expect that something will change...forget it, its a business and they must have profits from it.
As well as looking up to favourite CCs and listening to their words carefully can be interpreted as basic psychology too. Idols can have huge impact on followers (consider religions in general). If no-one spent so much money anymore they have had on the game, the profit taps would be closed for wg leading them to an uncomfortable situation. That's what we need to achieve.
WT is waaaaaaay worse in this regard. XM-1? Harrier GR.1? Saggitario 2? IS-6? 279 on release? AMX 30 Super? T-55AM-1? Obj 120 with 400mm pen APFSDS at insane speeds at just 7.3?
@@junxiangkoh1794 Nah mate. A random metal rod is stronger than Stalinium because they can eat DM53 easily. Or a random bush where your ATGM exploded when hitting that 1 blade of leaf.
You should have mentioned the constant speed increase in the unbalanced team's list as a reason. They not only overbuff tanks in terms of guns, they did increase the speed of even heavies and TD's troughout the years...I remember how freaking slow the KV tanks were...Even the KV-3...It was a pain to drive and turn, but you HAD time to play... This applies to any tanks. A quick fix would be like 30% nerf of all tanks. Another reason that the battles are fast and everybody pushing like crazy is the reusable consumables. In the past players were careful because if you wasn't you got a punch for no reason and were forced to play the whole rest of the battle with a broken engine, or broken gun. Yet another reason is making credit farming crazy easy with all the boosts and stuff. You can increase your credit income with fancier prem. tanks, events + boosters + clan boosters + platoons. This also encourages all and everyone to load gold and we already made a whole cyrcle. On the other hand we shouldn't think quick winning teams in games shouldn't be allowed and encountered somehow if that happends...It's part of the game. What WG should do is balance the tanks, their speeds, pen, damage, the maps, their game...That would prevent that...It worked in the past so what are we really talking about? Anyways nice points!
i perfer the enlisted pure balance of ok everyone can be shot dead by about the same number of rounds each your tanks are still both vunerable against litterally any AT infantry player and in enlisted its just ok we push hard we lose guys respawn have a human wave
@@vadencium1615 yes for AP but when you are bottom tier vs tier 8 AP is not an option.... The KV2 can't barely scratch now with HE, is totally unfun and useless
KV2 with HE still does Papa Stalin proud, its all about the MM & Teamplay when you roll out with that Beast! have had both crap & Amazing Moments with KV2 :)
Well if you still want to use the KV-2 HE AND potentially one shot a tank you hit square on the mantlet because Haha HE go brrrr. Play Warthunder my friend, I've been doing that up against Tiger II's and by god is it fun to take out such big game with the derpiest of derp guns XD
Skill based matchmaking is the most hated thing by "skilled players". Because it means no matter how good you are at the game your average chance to win any particular game is 50%.
Their skill based mm is not the normal. It puts more skilled players on 1 side then the other. No matter how good you are it will put you against better and or worse players.
@@protipskiptoendofvideoandr286 "Skilled players" will complain much more if a skill based match making was implemented. Can you imagine the so-called unicum statpadders who spent years of their lives maintaining their 70% win rate now realizing no matter what they do their average win rate will now decrease to 50%.
Ah WoT, so many love and hate memories. Remember beta in 2010-2011. How much fun game was overall giving, easy way to play with friend or two in normal game mode, so many vehicles to choose from. But oh well, then bullshit after bullshit was being added. Artillery was always cancer, gold ammo was becoming a norm rather than rare occurrence, tank with clips deleting you in mere seconds due to having 4-6 shoots before reload, shoots for 0, ludicrous bouncing off, armor losing value etc. And from the get go there was this horrible detection system with invisible tanks. Amusingly enough, while War Thunder ground forces did completely kill my enthusiasm in keep playing WoT, I didn't actually switch to WT, not for long at least. WT still though made WoT matches completely unplayable due to mentioned issues.
I literally played this shit on console from 2013-2019 and its honestly depressing to see how far it’s fallen. I’m glad I left though, it started to take a serious toll on my mental state lmao.
I stopped and started playing the game few times. But the last time i left is for good. I have 0 intention to go back to WG. Loved the game once, and trully hate it now.
I was on console since the invitational beta. My four friends that played WoTC with me all quit not long after the mercenary tanks. We all moved to WoWS Legends, but WG being WG, they're slowly ruining it too. World of hyperbuffed Yamato, Worcester, Shimakaze, and Conqueror.
@@ussliberty109 I left pretty much all Wargaming games and went to War Thunder instead. Other than Naval, I’m having a much better time with WT than all of Wargaming’s products.
I like your idea for buffing the losing team. In order to make this fair to the winning team, I propose that the experience/credits score muliplier of win>loss be changed to: win against buff>close win (no buffs)>win with buff>loss against buff>close loss (no buffs)>loss with buff. Also, any damage/kills caused directly by a buff (e.g. airstrike) should not add to a player's personal score. Therefore a player might refuse a buff if he thinks he can win without it.
@@jojomaster7675 they don't affect gameplay so long as you're smart about it. I have a buddy on the slow side who decided to buy and crew a vehicle with just 10k SL leftover. He ended up having to buy SL using eagles for his repairs.
I played it for 3 weeks and quit and moved to blitz instead. It still has some problems but now it's getting better but it definitely would still be p2w
@@doritolegend9664 agree. I went to WoT from blitz, played 2 games and quit. Way too complex, boring, and p2w. Blitz is still pay to win (cough cough smasher) but it’s much better than… that.. seems like there’s actual people doing the development in blitz
what does that mean, literally quit? no one goes around saying, i figurately did that, or figurately did this, so just say quit. everyting is in the literal sense unless its abundantly obvious a figure of speech.
Yeah that's why I switched with WotB plus wot blitz even was quite friendly because they have an event sometimes where some f2p player can get free tier 8 premium tanks
Yeah, having the dmg be lower for prammo rounds forces you to instead aim, play a different angle or potentially get outDPM'ed by the opposing tank. It is one of the many reasons why I play Blitz instead of WoT PC. *cough* arty
If you guys liked the old world of tanks better then you I think you will like this video: th-cam.com/video/aYBK84cM50o/w-d-xo.html
Yeah.
I don't miss the game as much as the time itself where I actually enjoyed it. Hard to find games I can play for hours without getting too bored
I haven't played WoT in a long while. I miss it, but I won't come back because of it's current state.
I still remeber when Murovanka had the "magic forest" where fools and lemings went to die. But it was hilarious.
video not available fuck i just want to see the video
#Wargaming
27:27 lol what is this add real?
"WOT is shit."
"I know."
"Then why do you play it?"
"I don't know."
-actual conversation I've had
Same conversation but with war thunder
Addiction.
What other tank game is there that isn't Girls UND Panzer Dream Match?
@@zanwrightmfwr756 there is GHPC but that's not properly out yet.
My response. I spent too much money on it
WT: realistic suffering
WoT and WoT Blitz: unrealistic suffering
It's a good life innit
WT isnt even realistic tf
@@moxie6665 its the most realistic ground, air, and naval suffering shithole you can go to.
@@CatWithAOpinion no its not lmao its a pathetic rip-off
@@moxie6665 what game is more realistic? I am curious.
someone in general chat got chat banned for saying "oxymoron". the entire general chat rushed in explaining to the mod what "oxymoron" means, since they clearly only saw the "moron" part. they proceeded to ban people trying to explain the word.
Absolute hilarity
Maybe mod though oxymoron means oxygenated moron. Whatever that would be.
Still, peak comedy
WOT in a nutshell
That was wallst06 aka Steve aka Steven90 (Honest Gaming). He even changed his Account name to oxymoron
It happens again every so often, this is an ancient meme; they never learn
I love how WT made a mode on April Fools that was basically just world of tanks (It was the one with inflated Sherman’s and potato shots)
that was in like 2015 when WOT was good
WoT never were good@@RealSiuff-oi5fb
its just a more arcade version of WT me and my dad played it together when i was young and we had fun@@arias80rp10
World of Tanks can be fun, but it's equally frustrating. The best part are the extended battles- WT is 1 shot simulator where armor never matters (unless you're uptiered yippee fun mechanic! )@@arias80rp10
You are wrong @@arias80rp10...
WoT WAS good at some point.... I played this shit for 5 years, I went through the old and new. generations (xbox 360 and xbox one S), and I can say, the old generation was a thousand times better, the players were smarter, they used strategies, they knew the mechanics, and the game itself was much less P2W than on the new generation and PC
Narrator: WOT is shit
Every WOT player: *Agreed*
The real chads
fk wt and wot
less go play enlisted
@@HSS_yt I have potato pc lmao
@@HSS_yt based
@@HSS_yt wt and wot players can relate that their game fucking sucks but can't stop playing it
@@HSS_yt enlisted worst. WHY MY AP NO GOING THROUGH REAR HUH?
I like how everyone suddenly addressed the bs in world of tanks, hope WG actually listens to the community.
Yeah, It's like a movement/protest, if one guy is walking around screaming shit, nobody will take it seriously. But if 1000 will walk around, maybe some more people will take it seriously.
no wot does not give a single shit as theyve showed many times in the past
Spoiler alert, they wont
@@falsebanneduser9428 the only thing that would convince them is not to buy anything from them.
@@falsebanneduser9428 you do know that the EU and NA combined (which is mostly the english speaking community) are smaller than the RU server so ofcourse the don't care
To both WT and WOT, i have a quote:
"The only winning move is not to play. Shall we play a nice game of chess?"
Finaly, a Man of Honor.
Even WT is going to shit, just like WoT, but I would still rather play WT than WoT just because WoT is absolute garbage game.
I “quit” both (sometimes I pay WT a visit) and now I play DCS.
Nah chess it's to unbalanced still waiting for queen nerf and chess 2
Lol same
Guys, for WG there is ONLY ONE balance in this game that really matters:
It is the balance between "Squeezing out the most money" and "Keeping the frustration level just low enough that not too many players quit".
That's it - nothing more, nothing less. Sorry to say that, but they don't give a shit about your wishes for a better gaming experience!!!
Well yeah, it's a free to play game. They need to make money somehow
@@MagicMan508 yeah, they could make it an honest way, no need for rigging cheating and shit, but they are greedy fucks
@@MagicMan508 thats true, but they want mo money, and doing a shit for the players. There are so many wrong things and they are not interested to fix it. And they earn a lot of money, believe me.
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO GETS IT. OF COURSE THEY DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT BETTERING A GAME INSTEAD OF THEIR POCKETS
They should remove the camo and bounce mechanics entirely. I see you, you see me, I fire a round and hit it does dmg. This BS of firing premium 152mm ammo and bouncing medium tanks that suddenly vanish is utter retardation.
me, a war thunder player: why the hell do tanks have health...
Hello fellow war thunder player
hello my fellow war thunder players
I am just thinking "so they too have shit game changes and stupid thing?"
ONE OF US
Edit: and I thought WarThunder servers were bad.
WoT is much more realistic. War Thunder is a poor mans WoT.
me as a former WoT player thats now a WT player:
*still suffers but in other ways*
I second that statement
Good riddance, health bars on armored vehicles are shite. That's not how armored combat works. WT is certainly less forgiving as a result, but I'll take it any day over HP and rng accuracy
for instance getting shredded by enemy 50 cals in 3 seconds
@@bigbenny505 far more rewarding to find weakspots or knowing and abusing your enemies tank in WT. much more skill based in Realistic Ground mode. And AGREE! far more brutal and unforgiving, yet many times more rewarding
@@davidcaldwell6651 how...h-hows that 5.7 br tiger going? Oh? You are somehow going up against post 45' tanks? (Obviously I'm just memeing here, WT> WoT always)
Man this game used to get me through the days and nights with the buddies trolling people with KV-2s and the ELC before they removed it, I tried to play it again recently and eh. It’s better in the memories.
Shoot I remember when everyone used to make fun and universally hate gold ammo spammers. Now everyone spams it
The death fridge I miss my derp gun
WT player be like: "Interesting..."
Interesting...
Hmm, Interesting...
I switched to wt 3 years ago and im glad i did wot went to shit
@Parome Tier 4 is most fun to play.
I wonder why both are going to shit.
War thunder players:
*Crawls out of dumpster fire*
"Ha your game is trash!"
*Crawls back into dumpster fire*
both games are just suffer, but in different ways.
@@dangernoodle8813 I play war thunder because it has a good aircraft mode and I though the aiming was less RNG. turns out the aiming is just a different kind of RNG. but at least there's no premium ammo. that sounds like a real good way to kill a player base. then again, another good way to kill a player base is to increase repair costs and reduce SL/RP gained by 30-50%. the only "right" choice is really just not to play.
@@stagiestpizza yea, the fucking repair cost is utterly, absolutely displeasing to say the least, literally, imagine having to pay 30k SLs just to repair a bomber,ffs and the economy is in shambles, hell, not even a few games could recover the SLs used in repairs, unless you pay for fucking premium and gaijin's attempt to "fix" the issue made it even worst.
@@dangernoodle8813 war thunder is the most addicting mental illness
Wot blitz gang
WG: We listen, here take another soviet premium
Doesn't WT do the exact same thing lol?
Another French Ferrari that can shoot 💯 accurate at 90/km speed
another tier 3 soviet premium .
@@winchesterchua3311 italian go karts and french light tanks
Chinese tanks now
WOT gives me a sense that there is a hidden hand at work always, making me miss shots, or my team or the other team miss shots, or shots not doing much when they do hit or just the opposite depending on the hidden hand. I never get that same feeling in WT. Plus I don't see a lot of 1942 tanks fitting 1960's tanks or even 1950's tanks. A Tiger still has a powerful presence to it in WT that is totally lost in WOT. WOT has to many "magical items" you can equip that can make you tank invisible, or faster or shoot faster or hit harder or all that at once that only folks with the 29,000 battles have who aren't supposed to need them in their already OP tanks. With a team of 4 of them on one side the match is over in less than 5 min. Everyone has the same stuff in WT for the most part and it shows. The matches are much more of a even game and fun. When I first started playing WT and didn't know what was what I could at least see who was shooting me and where they were and could back up or something. In WOT my first game I was hit like five times and never saw a tank on the enemy side even on the mini map, I died in like 3 sec into the match my first tier 3 game.
it's not a feeling ....is the truth :) y are not the player who use the game , It's the game that plays with you :)
Just Play wt
@@j.s.9693 hehe , where 's is masochism?
well is an arcade Game and sometimes it's very unfair I got a op Tank with High level crew with events and it's quite op the tier X american I don't renbember the name is the one with the auto Leader gun
I wish warthunder had better MM. Just had an air RB match with 1 top tiet fighter, one .3 below and the rest -1. The Enemy team had 7 top-tier aircraft.
I miss 2014-2016 World of Tanks with all my heart
i too miss it the game was much better then to much crap now .ie invisible tanks, gold ammo. It would be nice to reinstate old version.
I miss 2011 wot
9.14-9.20.1 was elite, just because of the improved physics
Wot in 1985 was better!
Same
0:17 it's funny to see as a War Thunder player that EBRs are equally hated in WoT
The ebr is easy to counter in WT just shoot center mass lol
Except EBRs in WoT has bullshit survivability.
I love sniping Ebrs. I see one driving, I just fucking follow/track it. All it takes is one round from by IS and it’s gone.
@AdBlock plus The problem is not that it has a shitton of survivability, because it doesn't - the problem is that it appears from thin air and goes faster than your turret could traverse to aim at it.
@@vitiate5093 the ebr when it was 4.3 was insanely good and faster than any other tanks also had the best gun at the BR
I find it interesting how the EBR was a problem in WT and in WOT, just for being itself
The EBR is cancer. Hard to hit and is dumb as hell. Plus is just broken
Reject EBR, return to KV-2
I find it ironic that French becomes OP once it found out that they can retreat just as fast as they can charge into battle
War Thunder: FL11 turret SA50 auto-clicker from 1954 in mid WWII br is cancer for an obvious and fixable reason that wont get moved because company scrips go brrr.
WoT: completely butt pulled magic forest BS giving company license to never fix anything.
@@zanwrightmfwr756 hon hon
"No one will buy a premium that will be nerfed in the future" meanwhile War Thunder whales buying the Harrier GR.1 just for it to be nerfed 3 days after release
trophy la5fn was pure ufo when they added it(literally flied like me163), after 2 weeks when 90% of german team was la5fn, they nerfed it. Easy money
CHAD THUNDER
@@igorkim3558 but the la5fn is a tech tree plane isn't it?
@@Simon-wk5oj not the german variant
@@lilshmokey4132 oh of course! I forgot that the german variant existed lol
The fact premium ammo exists in world of tanks tells me all I need to know. It's literally pay to win.
You can be free to play and still use ”premium ammo” though. It just costs much more credits to fire one of those shells
its pay for with silver an in game currency anyone can get by playing the game... it used to cost gold... real world money
It is cheap (in game money). Maybe that is problem for low levels, because if you want to upgrade tank to full faster, you will not use premium ammo, but on high levels you get much much more money for a game, than premium ammo cost.
(Im talking about Blitz. Maybe in pc wot situation is different)
@@stepan777 i play both blitz and standard... it is different... on standard the cost of premium ammo varies wildly depending on the tank and tier level... ive seen it as low as 2k all the way up to 20k so it just varies on what patch were in and what not
I stopped playing this game years ago when weakspots disappeared. And what I left was World of Tanks Blitz, which doesn't have any artillery. I can't believe people are still giving Wargaming money for their terrible game.
Wait, what the hell? Weak spots, gone?! I should’ve known. All the anger I had shooting at the drivers hatch and machine gun bit. Bruh…..
And the teams are god awful too. You can pull a 4K or 5k+ game and still lose because a lot of blitz players are sub 45% wr
Have you tried war thunder its low tiers are pretty good
@@chrisbruce5711 that's exactly what game I left to play. After 2 years of work, I have unlocked rank 1-4 of GER, USA, and USSR and I never plan to unlock anything higher than that. My rule is no vehicles whose development started after 1946. The game is incredibly fun now that I have finished my grind.
There are lots of stuped people in this world. Like the ones that will keep paying wg no matter how much they ruin the game.
They are making the game worse and worse every patch
Edit: Drip tanks music is a banger
actually last patch was great
Apex laughing with :
- garbage servers
- 5 out of 20 bulleds deal 0 on hit
- 1 predator(top players) every game you play
@Zoomer Waffen HE or arty enjoyer ?
Bro look at console wot🥲
@@kazekami7313 i think so too
The problem is that in the past 5 years almost no updates were made to make the game more fun. All additions are there to:
1. Made the game more addictive (not enjoyable. Addictive.)
2. Make us pay more.
All the mechanics are basically copy and paste from top grossing mobile free to play games. Daily missions, ranked battles, shorter game sessions because of EBRs, gold ammo and simplified tank models, casino Christmas boxes all have one on common - they make you return to the game more often and spend more cash.
Whenever I played WoT I would play the old campaign mode. I used to be good at the multiplayer but then the game became heavily pay to win and they removed the campaign. I never really played it after that.
So I do not really know the main state of the game right now.
Wow, that is literally the exact same as WT, We are death spiraling into the ground at this point
@WarClock172 I didn't say I was bad at the game, did I?, I just got bored of playing the same gamemode for the past 6 years...Gaijin hasn't done anything but remove gamemodes and fuck up the balance while making the grind worse, but I bet your too young to remember old WT so it doesn't matter to you anyway.
@WarClock172 the grind has been continually getting worse over the course of years, what they are doing now is too little too late.
war thunder just isnt what it used to be, and it's mostly the fault of shit balancing, and a ridiculously compressed BR which instead of fixing, they continue to make the problem worse by releasing a newer vehicle every few months or so, alongside a 60 (now 70) dollar premium, they're just lining their pockets now.
As both a multi year wot and wt player I can confirm this is a certified world of tanks moment
This is why i switched to warthunder, there i can kill a leopard 2a6 with a bt7
Amen
(m)bt-7 comrade )))
Bless those guys killing modern MBT with 15cm derp guns. Never not funny
@@BlazingSun46 or a tiny tank destroyer with a MASSIVE gun that sends the vehicle flying back from recoil. Fucking great.
@@BlazingSun46 also taking out a tank crew buy firing 7.62 down the barrel of the tank
that accuracy mechanic is actually smart af. gj on that, havent seen anyone say that
actually very good video
ye
I like it too, only worrying thing is that it rewards those FV4005 scrubs that sit in base or a corridor for 10 minutes to get that one pen before theyre killed. With this idea they would never miss that one shot
@@holmes6171 but it makes sense...i mean a tank firing at another tank WITHIN 500 METERS wouldnt miss...especially with the speeds of the shells...1200 meters a second...and you fired at a target 250m away...that shell should be there literally as you fire...but with WoT using the reticle system it makes sense that the longer you aim the more accurate your shot will be...you rush the shot it's gonna miss...but has a chance to hit cuz you know...rng
@@holmes6171 That's extremely worth. Oh no, I just got slapped for 1750 damage, but now that tank is out of the game for twenty seconds. Makes it extremely vulnerable
-15% damage for premium rounds works fine in WOT Blitz.
My coment egzaqly, l sad in blic premium delas less damidge, and nobody is complayning, and l didnt even now that in wot premijum shels deals same damedge, cud not belive it.
Right because it’s perfectly reasonable. Making premium deal the same damage just makes it very obviously pay to win. They can obviously have tanks like the 113 which have I suppose more HEAT damage, but then it also has downsides with traverse, accuracy, and armour on gen hull.
Yes, it does, and we also have prammo downsides, like HEAT splashing on tracks or not going through obstacles, APCR losing pen over distances and etc.
Also WoT Blitz uses tank hitskins, and you are actively encouraged to aim for cupolas or weakspots, like the Chieftan's cupola, VK45B's turret cheeks, Chimera's cupola, etc etc. That and the lack of arty and impennable tanks make me enjoy Blitz over PC
but we still have weakspots on most tanks. like the only thing thats broken is the vk90 and the tier10 Amx m4 but they are rare af anyways. I only shoot gold in my lights and sometimes mediums
@@vojspetar3796 now that is some english
As someone that used to play War Thunder and watch the Mighty Jingles play Wot, I'm so happy I left this gaming genre. These games are literally designed to be so miserable you feel forced to spend money.
Left this game a few years ago. Best decision ever.
same many years ago for me, all it does is give you anxiety and Possibly a high blood pressure stroke.
the older you get this game should be relayed as a health risk.
I quit right as the wheeled lights were coming out.
@@gnot_paul good timing
Yeah me too
I left the game as soon as the Chrysler GF was added into the game, that was the tipping point of the game going bad. Before that we had balanced premiums, at least most of them. The MM was flooded with a tank that had 175mm of pen with standard rounds and 250-ish with premium rounds. All while you can easily side scrape and have 300+ effective armor
Me a WT intellectual “where’s the nuke?”
God I just hate peacefully driving my free Abrams tank just to kill nothing and die
Just to get an absurd repair cost
the nuke in WoT is basically the T92 SPG. that or the german counterpart.
wheres the planes xD
@@gianurwiler5098 destruction 100. But to answer your question, they exist in world of planes, one of the shittiest arcade plane flying bullshit ever made, literally you can get better plane games on you mobile than that garbage.
@@nicholasthuya7683 Abrams has the lowest repair cost among along top tier MBTs. Yeah you're talking out of your ass here
Hell, I remember coordinating a fake "He's in [coordinates]" with a teammate to lure enemies into a trap. That shit was great.
The chat with enemy was the best part. "Be gentle" when one guy was left against 8 and about be abused. We would reply "Lube up" Or we would arrange 1v1 in game when the abuse between two players got salty. lol
@@jesusisking8502 Bruh I remember that, it was so fun, but now it's shit
I'm F2P, never paid for a game or made serious ingame purchase. After few years of playing and way too many matches i reached tier X. In WT i got to top tier in 3k matches, and costs of tanks wasnt serious issue. While grinding i could save a lot of money.
Thats fundamental mistake in WOT.
You need to use premium ammo to pen a lot meta tanks and you lose big amount of money, even before buying tank you wanted.
I really enjoy the usage of the trollface post-post ironically.
allah w akbar ......BOOOOOOM
Holy shit don't tell me this guy is still alive
this guy made by USA
The 17th layer of irony
@@galaxygs96
Because of your fucking name my text is now right to left
Nevermind it just shows up when typing
I just love how the EBR is universally hated by both WT and WoT. Is like the Itter Castle battle.
edit: " Just wathcing the powerpuff girls intro made me think.
War Thundar has EBRs and many dumb matchmakes.
Now we know when WT will get worse people. "
a whole year ago I said that now aged milk bag bruh💀
When every man and his dog had an EBR in War Thunder during the event it was a nightmare, but now you only see one from time to time and I rarely get killed by one. Same story when they put the Maus back in for a few days and currently with the PT-76-57.
@@shaddaboop7998 But they also added a tank to counter pt-76-57
*The Wiesel*
@@kajetus0688 ah yes the speedy goblin box
I find that the EBR's in WT were just annoyingly fast rather than just straight broken to the point of making every other light in the game obsolete like how WoT has it.
@@shaddaboop7998 the thing is the EBR 1951 was like 2.0 BR lower than it is now.
Played WoT 2011-2014. Always surprised there are still people subjecting themselves to this game. The problems that made WoT an unpleasant experience back then are still there, while WG added new issues to the mix.
They also made a lot of good playability changes the game has improved outside of the scummy premiums.
@@thunderball11111 still overall gameplay and balance was better back then. Long an close games were a regular thing. You didn't have to memorize the armor models and view ranges of a million different tanks and every tank had strengths and weaknesses
@@josuastangl7140 Honestly speaking outside of the some dumb tanks they've added I disagree mechanically the game has improved a lot.
@@thunderball11111 Well yes, mechanically I agree, obviously, we have physics and HD models now and the game looks a lot better. Regarding the fundamental gameplay tho, I disagree. Less tanks means everyone is more familiar with the strengths and weaknesses of each tank, every tank had frontal weakspots and maybe not the low tiers, but the high tiers were ballanced. Exactly the opposite of what it is today. There are so many items, gadgets and unneccessary tanks in the game, you simply cannot have everything in your head anymore.
I'm very happy I stopped playing because I already had about 70 murder charges and 1.172 assault charges from playing this game.
I remember playing WoT for years. From little games on my dad's laptop to my own games on the Xbox. I played for years.. and only ever got to the Hellcat on the American tree. The minute War Thunder, with its cool amphibious tanks and multiple turrets and planes and integrated air-ground combat, ported to Xbox I jumped ship.
I don't regret a thing, except occasionally I do miss the atmosphere of so WoT maps, like the Scottish one(?) with the chasm in the middle and whichever one was dark, wet, bumpy and flat and had a castle in the dead centre.. I think it was French?
Stop saying “play war thunder” I’m already addicted to 1 shit game why would I want to be addicted to 2 shit games? I’m not going to play war thunder, or wot blitz or any of that garbage so stop asking me to lol
Play war thunder then
na dude warthunder is better
Quit one and play the other
*Look at Armored Warfare huffing glue in the corner
I wouldn't say you should because you'll probably get oneshotted instantly from some flippin 15000 meter shitlord-camper who got a lucky shot on your ammo
can someone translate this into russian so wargaming ACTUALLY PAYS ATTENTION TO IT
Can give anyone ears to Wargaming for listening
yes
Completely delusional if you think they care.
As if wargaming listens to anything except the sound of credit cards
@@nash-p Than we not longer Pay...
To all Tankers, pls look and share this Video from Claus Kellerman about Matchmaker can be balanced over Night: th-cam.com/video/QdRVroTO7UM/w-d-xo.html
One of the reasons all chat got removed was because dead players would just tell the enemy team the position of their allies.
For me, a solution to this would be to make dead players have their own chat, and be muted to players still in the game.
INB4 Amogus comments
@@hanhphuc166 Dammit, didn't even think of that
world of impostors
SUS SUS SUS AMOGUS
An event where all players are artillery and they must capture multiple points without the enemy knowing. Two in each team must relay the capture point to the other team.
I would reveal the position of my arty even while alive. They don’t deserve anything else for playing spg
Some of my friends said' *The damage problem can easily be dealt by PLAY WAR THUNDER INSTEAD, IT DOES NOT HAVE AN HP SYSTEM.*
I used to enjoy this game a lot back in 2013/14, thought I'd give it a try again after all these years. _Left after 2 days_
A shame they had to ruin it. Even youtube knows this, so it gave me a warthunder ad on this video.
tbf war thunder has plenty of issues as well.
@@topace1038 Yeah, I know. I've been playing wt air ab/rb for a good while, as well as a little bit of ground rb.
It has issues, but a lot of them you can get past if you don't sell your soul to the grind and just enjoy the gameplay. _(Except for packet loss, that's something you can't fix yourself.)_
I played the game seriously 2011-2013, I got bad every so often for reminders why I quit. Back then lead developer was SerB, kind of glaring how bad it went downhill when he left.
@@reubensandwich9249 yeah, like, 50$ premium meta vehicles *cough cough* BLACK SHARK
@@TainyaGaming ka 52 and mi 28 are much better lul ka 50s are pretty easy to kill anyway with the current spaa in the game
Meanwhile me a warthunder player: "You can survive shots in this game?"
The biggest shame is that WT is slowly going in the same path of WoT. Pay to win is becoming the order of the day. I dont understand how do they think it is normal that players need to spend hundreds of euros per year to properly play their game. And like that is not enough, these lvl100 people are going seal clubbing in tier 3-4. I have seen people which had played 7000+ battles with one tank, and they have had 100 others they played with....
@@JohnDoe-is1tlas a former WOT turned WT ground main I would disagree, the recent update should hopefully fix some BR compression but [BOSSSS] ruins the game from 6.0-7.0 try airplanes and navel or even take a break like I did. Personally I main US ground forces.
@@kyleplatter8954 They added the VIDAR at 7.7 a premium howitzer in Sweden that fires ever 8 seconds by default, has generation 1 thermals (after nerfing it down from generation 2 thermals) a turret slew of 16~ degrees a second, top reverse acceleration of -38km/h which it reaches in under 5 seconds, it can aim straight up, it has VT-fuze shots for killing helicopters and planes (will often see people with gamepad aim lock and cheats using it to plink planes 3km away from the battlefield)
I bought it yesterday to make sure I wasn't tripping and you can easily go 8 kills 0 deaths in it at 9.3 BR.
They didnt decompress any BRs at all, they moved a ton of 7.7 vehicles that didnt need to move, to 8.0 and 8.3. In a plane you are still likely to encounter next generation fighter jets and sometimes two generations ahead fighter jets against your supersonic jet that doesnt have any missiles or radar or counter measures at all, but this is somehow fair and balanced gameplay.
When you see people flying premium mirages that can reach the enemy bases before the enemy themselves finishes passing over the bases, there is no balance in your BR.
I genuinely believe that the USSR tanks that all got moved up .4 or .3 in BR was to stop them being able to kill the Maus. Ever since they added a few newer tanks to the USSR with better penetration, I see Maus' often getting destroyed quickly rather than soaking up all the APHE. Now it's back to how the Maus _was_ where it soaks up APHE and HEAT because only a very few tanks from _some_ nations get APFSDS at that BR.
@@JohnDoe-is1tl dude you wasnt there since the review bombing 5/2023? They became much better now, give them some time to fix
@@JohnDoe-is1tlI think War Thunder is getting better, because they fixed the economy for example.
I was both a beta tester for WoT and WT. the biggest beef I had with WoT was the invisible tanks. if you play it, you know. INFURIATING. looking at an enemy well away and all of a sudden he just goes *pop* gone. invisible. ridiculous. don't have to deal with that in WT.
Even more annoying when you bout to shoot someone and they disappeared -.-
I deal with invisible tanks in WT all the time. I don't know why it happens, but it happens
@@PSYCHOpaty4 low load distance, ping, server lag, they just hide better; low resolution? At least a lot of time you can still see them and not disappearing as a feature
@@PSYCHOpaty4 increase your keen vision crew skill because thats the thing that renders tanks
@@PSYCHOpaty4 it's a Bug with the anti cheat:
It works like this: Tanks you should not be able to see (behind Walls etc) are not displayed to you, to prevent Wallhack cheats. Sometimes it fails and let's tanks disappear that you should be seeing.
What i hate most about wot is that combining terrible map designs with artilery stuns and tds waiting for you to peek a micro milimeter to fk u up fromm millions of angles makes u feel unable to move anywhere. You are fixated in one position for couple of minutes until something happens and then u move fuckiing 25 centimeters to another position and stay there bc arty will hit u and tds will eat u alive. im saying that there is no room to breathe when u are driving. U are always stuck by somneone destroying you. Espeically arty stuns. CANCER.
Yeah, the rng with accuracy is something I have beef with. I thought that once I got the most accurate gun in the game all of that would be behind me. I was proven wrong when trying to save a team mate from an M103 in my Grille 15. It's true that I never missed a shot on the M103 since all of the tank covered the outer aiming circle. I could not miss, but the game still found places for every single one of my shots to bounce... off an M103.
It wasn't until the M103 beat my team mate that the game finally allowed my shots to go where I was aiming. "Thanks game, but it's too late. I've lost my spotter and I am not going to win against this guy once he get's to me." I wish the game gave me that kind of protection.
"Go ahead, do as you please. You are untouchable in this match. I'm gonna fling the rounds of every opposing player absolutely everywhere."
I am absolutely convinced that the game has decided which team will win as soon as it has put the teams together, and only every once in a while are you ever able to overcome the game's planning.
Definitely true. I've had matches where I missed every single one of my shots, even fully aimed and on a part of the tank I could pen.
This doesn't happen on blitz for me though, and that's why I like it. Sure there's bad RNG moments too, but it doesn't feel like it was decided like it is in wot pc. And generally, wotb is more fun imo
You're right, anytime when my team loses 5:15 or even 1:15 I'm not able to hit anything even on full aim. RNG should be redone.
WT is just as bad, honestly. Especially in low-mid ranks.
@@sircuffington sounds like an arcade problem.
@@sircuffington sounds like a skill issue.
Ever get the feeling of helplessness when you get 14 kills while in game and still lose the game because the team just…sucks? Yea, That’s at tier 8 and since then I just quit.
14 kills..? How tf do you lose a match after killing pretty much the entire enemy team?
@@retardcorpsman i think he was just making the last shot.
@@retardcorpsman you can get 14kill and have below 500 dmg ....
@@topgear3128 I actually did 4300 damage in total. I clutched in my vk 100.01p and had 256 HP after soloing 8 enemies. Then a half hp UDES 14 flanked around and finished me off.
@@widerkollektor5396 that sucks. I also don't like imbalance in match making, often enemy's team has more heavy tanks or artillery, tank class does matter, not only tier.
As a war thunder player, knowing that world of tanks makes you pay for the damn ammo is enough to make sure I never even bother trying this game
actually in wt, for ammo that comes from modifications you have to play for that modification, and shooting those rounds in game still have a price, just at a lower price
only the default ammo is free
@@astro_119 It’s still super cheap and not noticeable. Besides, it costs the ingame normal SL, not premium Golden Eagles like premium ammo in WoT
@@derpking3970 Premium ammo in WoT does not cost premium money (gold is the equivalent to golden eagles) since ~2012. Funnily enough WT has the exact same premium as WoT. They just don't state it quite as obviously and it's less important as shells costs are less in general and repairs higher.
@@racernatorde5318 also stock shells are good enough in most tanks (there are exceptions)
@@racernatorde5318 You can EASILY grind MILLIONS of SL without premiums OR a premium account in War Thunder planes tier 3/4. Your performance ingame heavily impacts your gaining money aswell. In WoT, making millions of silver while not having a premium account and a premium tank is absolutely impossible. That's the main difference. Repair costs don't matter when you can make 40-50k SL in a single match in War Thunder by being good without a premium / premium vehicle. I have played both games and F2P WoT is so insanely difficult in comparison to War Thunder, I'm an average player wo premium whatsoever and NEVER struggled with Silver Lions in WT. Same cannot be said for WoT if I wanted to perform on the top 25% of the match. Loading gold 1/2 of the time was almost required to do consistently good in-game, which is a damn shame, as WoT would be an amazing game if these issues wouldnt be present.
One time I did about 3100 damage in Tier VI (WoT) and lost money, the competitive game punishes you for being competitive, lmao.
The single fact that a thing called “premium ammo” exists is why wot is complete dog shit
I feel like the community of GOOD players left about 5 years ago...
I left around then when I found war thunder
@@tankingbeast1132 I started playing war thunder for a bit, but the whole every tank can one shot every tank thing was worse than WoT. I stopped playing tanks when warships came out and have tried to jump on maybe three times to see if it changed and it has for the worse. They took the fact that a good arty player could either do decent damage or counter battery off the start and just made them a support unit to track people without doing much damage. Sorry, if you get hit by a 240mm shell, you are dead. It doesn't matter what tank you are in because that is coming down on the lightest armored portion of a tank. Take that along with the fact that gold rounds basically destroyed any amount of armor a tank had and the game failed its' players.
Started 6 years ago. Yeah, I'm stuck here.
Same is happening in wows now.
@@Danthrax81 Well, WoWS is adding in stupid things that take away from how the game was built to be played. A cruiser should be sitting near an island, close enough to help the DDs but safe enough that they won't get hit badly by BBs. With all the aircraft modded ships (Ise, Tone, Kersearge, entire new cruiser line, etc.), they have removed that type of play. So now your cruisers need to be in open water to stay semi safe, which means they can't safely be close to the DDs to provide help and instead need to stay near the back by the BBs. The winning team will now be determined by who has the better DD player and that is it.
This is why I stick to War Thunder. It's a different kind of pain
Out of a pile of trash, into a pile of shit.
Here's to proof that im a fellow legit WT player: AVRE is painful. ERAs shouldnt exist in 7.0-7.3
@@darnit1944 Germany should be uptiered
@@mahogany7712 they need to separate post war machines
@@HelghastStalker they need no nerf premium shit, and the annoying grassballs
@@mahogany7712 Especially Pz IV G who recently got into 3.7 from 4.0.
About maps: I feel like a few years ago when everyone complained Wargaming was just doing corridor maps, games were decided as soon as one of the corridors had been broken and the winning people from there surrounded the other corridors. Nowadays I feel like the pushing sides are death traps. Time and time again one side wins the engagement and then continues to push forward, just to be shot to pieces from a campy hill or bush location. Basically what I see most experienced people do is once they've won one flank they turn around to help the other side or base defense. Only the foolish players keep going and that creates those countless games where the main engagement was won and then a turnaround into a loss happened.
Yep, exactly. This is also one reason why mediums rule the game and heavies are pointless now. You have to have speed to go support the other flank, and most heavies can't do that.
@@TehButterflyEffect i could usually determine a win or loss just by checking how many meds/lights the other team has. if your meds win you basically win the game, unless they go full retard after winning on the med side.
@@basketcase1235 Yeah, and a lot of meds are a lot more powerful than others. The UDES, the TVP50/51, Obj. 430, and a bunch of premium or rewards are so much more powerful than anything else. If one side has them and yours doesn't, you lose.
You complain about maps. I bet you never tried War Thunder maps. Hehe
@@liviuganea4108 you win that bet. I've never ever even considered jumping into that arcade looking game.
I liked the weirder maps in WoT though such as Port, Dragon Ridge and revamped Komarin. Oh yes and also Swamp. Don't judge plz. :(
I play WOT for 8 years, I have all tier 10 tanks, i stop playing end uninstal game 3 month ago.
1 WAR GAMING KILL GAME, WHIT CHEATERS.
2 Before you could play without a premium account, now even with premium it's very difficult.
3. Physics is terrifying.
4. The maps are desperate.
5. without cheating modes the game has become unthinkable.
6. Instead of focusing on the real battle of tanks, they're just looking at how to take more money from you. The game becomes more and more unrealistic, intended for children from 12 to 14 years....
And I hope it is still going this way both the game going downhill and slowly on the grave, and you just like me that quit the game for good too, and enjoy else on this hard life we have.
finally someone said it. gold ammo was never a problem, its always been there from the beginning. the problem is WG ate shit or just suddenly smart enough to figured out how to milk the playerbase, because weakpoints all the sudden just disappeared.
but lowering the penetration value of gold ammo is not a bad idea, gold ammo is a problem but really small
@@resko8758 again that would just make the tanks with no weak spots more op and make rng feel even worse
@@resko8758 it is a bad Idea if they don't also reduce the price of gold ammo.... If not... You spend way more gold rounds killing a type 5 than before aka more money for wg.... If the alpha of gold is reduced.... The price of gold rounds should be decreased too... Otherwise you fix nothing and just make another problem
@@jasonking449 yeah, lowering the price is a good point
@@resko8758 it was brought up a while ago by some of the cc's but has been swept under the carpet.... But seriously you cannot reduce gold alpha without reducing price too.... Imagine spending 5600 credits a shot in the t92 with lowered alpha against say defender....let's not even get started on shooting tier 9 and 10 tanks... Super daft
Me who only plays War Thunder: “Why am I even listening to this.”
Morbid curiosity? Same reason I'm watching.
Because if WG stops fucking up they pressure Gaijin into doing better.
SAME
To realise WT is actually good
@@sagiplays3190 Good gameplay. Good mechanics. NO HEALTHBAR.
It could be a superb game if its a literal hell while grinding to Top-tier if you're an F2P
Not to bring up a dead horse, but war thunder doesn’t have any of those issues [it has different ones obviously]
yeah as a experienced war thunder player i think it is a amazeing game if you ignore some of the problems like it is pretty realistic and you need to memorize where to shoot instead of just shoot ing it anywhere and their new modren tank update is just copying everything about war thunder imo
R E P A I R C O S T S
@@arandomboi682 Don't play The Brits!
I just wish it wouldn't take a year to get a modern tank.. I would play then.
@@kuhaku9587 just do it like me: pay 19 gaijin coins on a rank VI german (its the cheapest high tier vehicle)
It's 2024, and this video is still quite accurate today.
Unfortunately, the creator doesn't understand why a bad player is bad, but otherwise, everything still holds true.
I learned to play this game when my poor Pz4 was matched against IS4s, was a suffering, but learned a lot of weak spots and how to exploit them, learned how to take advantage of the armor on my E75 and KV4 and win matches against higher tier tanks, but since the game turned into who spams prem ammo first i retired of the game forever, despite having ten of millions of credits and gold, i felt using that ammo was unfair to anyone, almost like cheating
Same shit bro
Gold ammo doesn't cost gold anymore, so now everyone can spam prem ammo lol
@@danshakuimo not in blitz and i cant play normal wot bc my pc dont have space for it. Like it switches between gold and silver but its harder to earn bc you cant do more than 6k dmg and repair costs are insane
And i thought uptiers in WT were bad....
@@danshakuimoI quit and sold my account back in 2014, I had every premium tank up to that point, almost 70 million credits, and a full 100% crew with 2 skills each.
What killed me was the free gold ammo, it made every tank that relied on their armour to perform, moot. My favourite tank, the KV5 is an example. When I'm fighting t6 and below, Im pretty much invincible, as soon as gold ammo came in, I'm useless.
I end up switching to french autoloaders, since apparently, "armour don't matter" when everyone is shooting gold.
I'd say "play war thunder," but gaijin is starting to act a lot like wargaming.
Battlefield maybe?
Wait.. What did i miss in wt?
How? Low/mid tiers are super enjoyable
Maybe you don't like new overpressure mechanic or battlepass?
@@jtucehok p2w bushes, premium vehicles with intentionally OP matchmaker rating, fucked up anachronism in matchmaking where mid ww2 tanks fight post war tanks, huge grinds... The game exists to nudge you to pay
I think I jumped the wot ship when WT introduced ground forces. Especially with being able to knock out people in one shot, and the fact that even lower tier vehicles still have a fighting chance because chances to cause spalling/over pressure against a higher BR vehicle. Learning weak spots was and is still important but situational awareness and being the first to fire means more and idiot higher tiers can’t just fall back on their better armor and larger hp pool. Also had a shitty 2005 giant dell laptop that gave 10 FPS and 100-300 ping depending so it often ended in me getting killed as soon as I ended up in a fight and that action caused lag. So I have a shit w/d % of 46-48%.
I can confirm that low tier vehicles have a chance to kill higher tiers. source: have killed Leopard 2 in Strv. m/39
@@zacharymarino8926 once i killed an m1a1 abrams in a zis-30
noob 46%er
@@TheTankCrew noob
@@TheTankCrew you now in 2014 the game was different and no war thunder need skills instead wot its shitty. in wot the maps are too small and the annoing fact that u rarely one shot the enemy makes the game shitty
I’m actually gonna make the losing team get some extra consumables a thing in my game. This sounds amazing.
"Nobody will buy premium if it can be nerfed in future"
**Laughts in Gaijin**
Gaijin is a fucking chad compared to WG
leets add OP plane with epic climbing speed, 4 unlimited G missiles and put it against low rank jets, make peoples buy it, put it at almost top tier few days after.
Profit.
@@pro100pl4 and then nerf the shit out of it.
@@dangernoodle8813 honestly no both are equally garbage
@@snekkie117 yea both are shit, but one is shitter then the other.
Just remove premium shells so players actually use their brains to play instead of just spamming shells and penetrating everything. F2p players like me will instantly join back
premium shells are fine but they need drawbacks. Just like armor needs drawbacks and dpm need drawbacks. Currently its out of whack. Its not even premium anymore since its paid for by excess silver
Can we like, stop calling it premium shells.
Like, it isn't as premium as it used to, everyone can buy it with silver.
@@XHitsugaX Yep so-called "premium" shells (even though they are not really premium anymore) need drawbacks like lower damage. Also HEAT should do more damage against lighter armored targets and APCR could do actually less damage against lighter armored targets. But in general i think that WG needs to do a major damage system overhaul, since its same as it was during the launch.
F2P Brothers must come togheter in both WT and WoT!
then you need to adress alot of overpowered tanks in order to remove the "gold"Shells, the main Reasons many started to use Gold ammo or atleast have some, is not because ppl using or not using their brains, when their are few overpowerd "Sovjet" tanks "mostly" vs historical tanks, whom some have been nerfed like Tiger I as an exampel, doesn t matter if I use the historical or the long barrel 88 on the Tiger I, I will still have a frustraded & Salty MM, but loading some Gold Shells that will pen or do some damage to bigger or newer overpowerd tanks... then its win-win, you get to roll in you Overpowered tank, while I still roll in my Old Tiger I & able to get your ass anyway, even if it cost me some from my wallet. it doesn t matter, Wargaming only care about making Money, Yes they listen to the Comunity Contribituers, but They get the final Say... & as many Game Devs these days is " making crap ton of Money or less ton of Money? what do you think they will do? make overpowered tanks & add gold ammo & premium tanks = tons of cash.
This game is 11 years old, there has not been a SINGLE change that's been made to it out of request of the community.
there was several, gold ammo possible to buy by credits changed mm arty nerf the problem is that community wants changes but every change is bad cuz everybody have the personal best solutions
They changed ranked in not having premium tanks
i have the 130pm, i'm still PISSED OFF at time i didn't pen side of a borrat with gold ammo...
and yes, this is enough pen to pierce through SEVEN borrat, counting both side armor.
This video hit spot on. This highlighted the things I miss from back when I played more actively before all the autoloader/reloader meta. The removal of weak spots with the penetration indicator actually telling you the actual thickness instead of just raw value. It means people don't even have to guess if somebody is over-angling or not, they can just wait for the green marker and boom.
Hello from CIS segment
Some people from our clanwars-community know the EXACT person who balanced the 10th-tier Chieftan.
It's Continental_Atlantic [WG], formerly one of the clan leaders. Wargaming hired this degenarate for some unknown reason to make clanwars better and they managed to give him an opportunity to balance a Chieftan as a prize tank. Thus, it has become his favorite tank (5622 battles and 4k average damage vs B-C 25 t with 1916 battles and 2400 average damage at 2nd place).
In fact, he made up a tank for himself and now all community all over the world suffers.
This is the funniest shit I've ever read. Hope it's real
I played WoT every day for 5 years, i had so much fun with it for a while. but i left it a couple years ago and havent looked back. The WoT I loved is dead
As some who played from 2011 onwards, i agree. (I still have the odd match but barely play anymore XD)
No more elc fun :/
@ if u don't like normal WoT and enjoy WoT blitz you can get in on your Computer.
Why is there a roll for penetration? Having to play roulette to penetrate someone makes no sense
Imagine having an HP system:
-This post was made by the WT gang
Imagine having a grind that takes around a year to finish
-This post was made by the WoT gang
@@aletron4750 Imagine not being able to take more than one vehicle out per match. Imagine not having planes. Imagine having to play one specific tank to grind out the next one after it.
War Thunder's grind is not nearly as bad as WoT's other than the fact that you have to create lineups (meaning you complete the whole tech tree instead of just one line). You can research any tank with any vehicle in any lineup. The same goes for premiums. It's just made better by the fact that you can respawn and get more XP (or RP) per battle.
Imagine thinking wot is supposed to be a realistic game
@@yourmother1093 because it is?
@@yourmother1093 i mean it isn't supposed to be realistic. It's so damn obvious
I used to play this a lot and have over 15k battles in total. I thought WT was lame and bounced off one short try of it. Recently, I gave it a shot again and I can't believe how much better it is than WoT. WoT is gross to me right now. So much wasted time...
The game is good the company who owns it are greedy shit heads
Felt the same when I switched to WT
yeah i switched from WoT to WT greatest decision i ever made
@@hjrgf Same
@@Historylord15 WT is fun (except when you get bombed from fucking orbit)
"I can use my knowledge of the game to penetrate him"
-Chems 2021
The QB Viewer, Skill enjoyer, Lemmingrush watcher thing made me laugh for a solid minute! Well played sir!
If u fight a type5 heavy with a s conq head on you deserve to lose(thats kind of the point super heavy vs mobile heavy), a s conq has so much more which a type 5 doesnt have, speed, turning speed etc. Heavies are no heavies anymore everyone can pen a type 5 heavy if you shoot prem there is not point in playing type 5 at all if prem ammo doesnt get nerfed.
ya it was a pretty bad comparison lol. even if the s conq were to shoot shells that did less damage it wouldn't change the fact that the s conq is still a vastly superior tank over a type 5.
True a 1v1 comparison doesn’t make much sense I think there needs to be a combination of pen and dmg nerf, credits isn’t enough of a drawback to shooting prem and making the pen significantly worse defeats the premium ammo purpose, it makes more sense to have 5-10%less dpm.
true. Superheavies are supposed to be hard to pen, they're slow as sht
@@semperfi2014mn yea, i have no clue how he thought this was a good comparison. What S conq face to face fights a Type 5. It just doesnt happen. Nor does a m6 straight up 1v1 a 252u solo and even with gold, that would be stupid and always end in a lose.
Yeah definitely agree with you. The whole point of superheavies are to be able to have that all round survivebility, this comparison is like saying the violin can’t play as low as the cello so it sucks.
Meanwhile in wt, an m22 is at toptier fighting mbts and somehow manage to get more kills than me.
You must have missed the War in Syria and Yemen where old stuff is being used in the battlefield alongside modern equipment
Sorry for being m22 main :L
@@KoRbA2310I squish you and ASU
This makes my WT suffering seem so much smaller
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How is the spam camping? Last time they were camping behind me!
what are some problems in WT?
@@Boz1211111 main ones are the grind/repair cost, extremely unbalanced vehicles and things like shells just phasing through a target
@@Cuteseals2 The French repair cost are really bad the 6.3 AMX-13 has a repair cost of 14,000 sl.
Wot and wt have 1 thing in common: *suffering*
Me a War Thunder player: all this math is irrelevant
😂 fr
They actually made angling useless lol, it might have been fixed but a t34 120 goes through the front of a tiger 2s ufp at like 1000 meters
@@williewilson2250 T-34-120? Never heard of that one.
@@Demospammer9987 I'm saying it because there's the Russians and then the American t34 related to t29 and the t30
@@williewilson2250 ah right. Forgot about that one. Yeah it's a cold war tank so it has lol pen magic bullshit rounds that rip through anything made before 1946.
Removing team damage sucks, for fun reasons but also when you hug an enemy and everyone just fires anyway. Before people would be way more careful now arty and everything just spams anyway. I miss all chat. The troll and rage was so fun.
I was constantly banned, because i was murdering my moronic team mates.
@@MADHEWPRAGUE You could teamkill someone every day and not go blue. A teamkill a day keeps the retards away :D
@@LukeEvans55 I remember being banned for more than a year, i was so happy when they turned it off. Anyway maybe it was better for my nerves to be banned and not being able to play it.
Turning off the chat is the best thing ever added to this game. It should be added to every game so you don’t have to read all those insults. Never important is said in the chat anyway
All chat and Overpowered AP and HE arty shells were the best... I still remember the day I used my tier 8 german arty 2000 (1500-2500) HE damage shell to oneshot a full hp tier 10 Type 57 heavy (2250 damage, got quite good RNG).
Everybody was incredibly disgusted when it happened, both allies and enemies :D
one of the weirdest moments I have had in wot was when I shot from like 400m away to a tank driving sideways and the shell landed about 50m short and I still damaged it. I even asked the guy for the replay and on both of our screens it wasn't even close
10:45 well I have average internet but sometimes my tank drives forward while I'm not touching anything.... or my turret rotates to completely different direction than I look
War Thunder: Wrong stats, glitched pen, ruskie bias, endless grind
WoT: Bing bong, HP bar too high :(
it's always been weird to me that both these games are terrible for totally different reasons.
@@endorsedbryce exactly
@@endorsedbryce and yet I still play them
I don't know man these days the HP bar is actually not high enough
one time my T34 (in WT) non-penned the side of a KV-2‘s hull twice. I don’t know why he was there either.
(Also it was the American T34)
Your aim time vs accuracy visuals is exactly how I've been thinking it should be for a while
"You need premium ammo to fight certain tanks" back in the day when it cost real money, we made do without it. Good times.
there weren't as many overpowered premiums back then
@@warmike
Both are bad, using one to justify the other perpetuates the issue. Balancing Prammo makes OP tanks even more OP, balancing OP tanks makes Prammo nullify the point of armor.
Still have 14,000 gold on WOT for 5 hears now. They won't let me switch it to world of ships. So it just sits there since i stopped playing. I fear ships is going in a similar direction as well.
Mate, you have to realize one thing : WG wants his game unfair so players have to spend real money in " special" ammo, OP premium tanks or faster progression , its in human nature the need to have advantage over the others and WG uses that to milk the players...its basic psychology. If you all expect that something will change...forget it, its a business and they must have profits from it.
As well as looking up to favourite CCs and listening to their words carefully can be interpreted as basic psychology too. Idols can have huge impact on followers (consider religions in general). If no-one spent so much money anymore they have had on the game, the profit taps would be closed for wg leading them to an uncomfortable situation. That's what we need to achieve.
WT is waaaaaaay worse in this regard. XM-1? Harrier GR.1? Saggitario 2? IS-6? 279 on release? AMX 30 Super? T-55AM-1? Obj 120 with 400mm pen APFSDS at insane speeds at just 7.3?
Imagine rng, hitpoints, and no weakspots.
I can't.
*laughs in War Thunder*
Imagine suffering
*Laughs in not playing both games*
imagine comparing realistic game VS arcade LMAO
Imagine not penning the is3 with DM 23 just cause stallinium.
Cries in gaijined
@@junxiangkoh1794 Nah mate. A random metal rod is stronger than Stalinium because they can eat DM53 easily. Or a random bush where your ATGM exploded when hitting that 1 blade of leaf.
@@pers8022 wot stan
You should have mentioned the constant speed increase in the unbalanced team's list as a reason.
They not only overbuff tanks in terms of guns, they did increase the speed of even heavies and TD's troughout the years...I remember how freaking slow the KV tanks were...Even the KV-3...It was a pain to drive and turn, but you HAD time to play...
This applies to any tanks. A quick fix would be like 30% nerf of all tanks.
Another reason that the battles are fast and everybody pushing like crazy is the reusable consumables. In the past players were careful because if you wasn't you got a punch for no reason and were forced to play the whole rest of the battle with a broken engine, or broken gun.
Yet another reason is making credit farming crazy easy with all the boosts and stuff. You can increase your credit income with fancier prem. tanks, events + boosters + clan boosters + platoons.
This also encourages all and everyone to load gold and we already made a whole cyrcle.
On the other hand we shouldn't think quick winning teams in games shouldn't be allowed and encountered somehow if that happends...It's part of the game. What WG should do is balance the tanks, their speeds, pen, damage, the maps, their game...That would prevent that...It worked in the past so what are we really talking about?
Anyways nice points!
i perfer the enlisted pure balance of ok everyone can be shot dead by about the same number of rounds each your tanks are still both vunerable against litterally any AT infantry player and in enlisted its just ok we push hard we lose guys respawn have a human wave
0:30 you owe me new keyboard...or at least help me clean this coffee 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This game has "We didn't penetrate their armor!" burned the back of my head XD
And “ricochet”
I miss my old KV2 HE
They ruined One of the most simple and funny tank
well its not ruined, you only need to switch to AP's or to O-I
@@vadencium1615 yes for AP but when you are bottom tier vs tier 8 AP is not an option.... The KV2 can't barely scratch now with HE, is totally unfun and useless
KV2 with HE still does Papa Stalin proud, its all about the MM & Teamplay when you roll out with that Beast! have had both crap & Amazing Moments with KV2 :)
We still have that in war thunder, and that’s very funny
Well if you still want to use the KV-2 HE AND potentially one shot a tank you hit square on the mantlet because Haha HE go brrrr. Play Warthunder my friend, I've been doing that up against Tiger II's and by god is it fun to take out such big game with the derpiest of derp guns XD
Skill based matchmaking is the most hated thing by "skilled players". Because it means no matter how good you are at the game your average chance to win any particular game is 50%.
Their skill based mm is not the normal. It puts more skilled players on 1 side then the other. No matter how good you are it will put you against better and or worse players.
@@protipskiptoendofvideoandr286 "Skilled players" will complain much more if a skill based match making was implemented. Can you imagine the so-called unicum statpadders who spent years of their lives maintaining their 70% win rate now realizing no matter what they do their average win rate will now decrease to 50%.
That is the one thing they go apoplectic about. How dare teams be created and balanced based on player skill! 15-5 3min battles should be the norm!
And then there's me with 46% wr and not care the slightest about it. At least I tried to improve myself.
Ah WoT, so many love and hate memories. Remember beta in 2010-2011. How much fun game was overall giving, easy way to play with friend or two in normal game mode, so many vehicles to choose from. But oh well, then bullshit after bullshit was being added. Artillery was always cancer, gold ammo was becoming a norm rather than rare occurrence, tank with clips deleting you in mere seconds due to having 4-6 shoots before reload, shoots for 0, ludicrous bouncing off, armor losing value etc. And from the get go there was this horrible detection system with invisible tanks.
Amusingly enough, while War Thunder ground forces did completely kill my enthusiasm in keep playing WoT, I didn't actually switch to WT, not for long at least. WT still though made WoT matches completely unplayable due to mentioned issues.
Love how the fucking EBR is a nightmare in both war thunder and world of tanks. It’s just a god of destruction
at least in WT they die/stop moving if u hit them once
Also that in WT R3 exist and can out Cancer the EBR
At least you can one shot them in WT
@@p_filippouz counter point: they can one shot you too
@@mbgaming1017 counter counter point: your crew is well spaced and they hit a bad shot.
Chems: Makes a Video about why WoT sucks
Me: instantly likes the video
Da
Yes
Ewwwww wot hater
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@@e25dainka If you’re just a hard grinder or Pay to win player, *gtfo* you have no right to say anything as you will never understand the struggles.
I literally played this shit on console from 2013-2019 and its honestly depressing to see how far it’s fallen.
I’m glad I left though, it started to take a serious toll on my mental state lmao.
I stopped and started playing the game few times. But the last time i left is for good. I have 0 intention to go back to WG. Loved the game once, and trully hate it now.
Glad I packed up a year before the update......it looks total shite now.
I still play every so often, trying to get the charioteer's top gun, then I play anything with armor then **bang** Gold rounds.
I was on console since the invitational beta. My four friends that played WoTC with me all quit not long after the mercenary tanks.
We all moved to WoWS Legends, but WG being WG, they're slowly ruining it too. World of hyperbuffed Yamato, Worcester, Shimakaze, and Conqueror.
@@ussliberty109 I left pretty much all Wargaming games and went to War Thunder instead. Other than Naval, I’m having a much better time with WT than all of Wargaming’s products.
I like your idea for buffing the losing team. In order to make this fair to the winning team, I propose that the experience/credits score muliplier of win>loss be changed to:
win against buff>close win (no buffs)>win with buff>loss against buff>close loss (no buffs)>loss with buff.
Also, any damage/kills caused directly by a buff (e.g. airstrike) should not add to a player's personal score. Therefore a player might refuse a buff if he thinks he can win without it.
Laughs in WarThunder giving everyone ammo without making them pay for it.
_Then gets depressed from 50k sl repair costs_
@@jojomaster7675 damn u right
@@bluebox87059 At least repair costs don't affect the gameplay as much. You gotta give it to the snail on this one.
_They still suck tho_
@@jojomaster7675 they don't affect gameplay so long as you're smart about it. I have a buddy on the slow side who decided to buy and crew a vehicle with just 10k SL leftover. He ended up having to buy SL using eagles for his repairs.
@@bluebox87059 They do affect it though. Since people tend to not play vehicles that cost too much, thus affecting the matchmaking.
I literally quit this game even after playing for 6 years straight
I played it for 3 weeks and quit and moved to blitz instead.
It still has some problems but now it's getting better but it definitely would still be p2w
@@doritolegend9664 agree. I went to WoT from blitz, played 2 games and quit. Way too complex, boring, and p2w. Blitz is still pay to win (cough cough smasher) but it’s much better than… that.. seems like there’s actual people doing the development in blitz
@Robin Banks True, premium isn’t spammed, though you see it used a lot in tournaments and with professionals, it’s not “spammed” per se.
Just play blitz instead
what does that mean, literally quit? no one goes around saying, i figurately did that, or figurately did this, so just say quit. everyting is in the literal sense unless its abundantly obvious a figure of speech.
it's funny how WoTb adressed most of those problems.
The pramo change was amazing, maybe you should try it for a bit.
Yeah that's why I switched with WotB plus wot blitz even was quite friendly because they have an event sometimes where some f2p player can get free tier 8 premium tanks
Agreed blitz is I would say loosely more balanced but it’s definitely Better then wot pc
His arguments are about as coherent as some drunk dude with an IQ of 50 trying to explain the socioeconomic problems of the USSR in the 1960s.
Yeah, having the dmg be lower for prammo rounds forces you to instead aim, play a different angle or potentially get outDPM'ed by the opposing tank. It is one of the many reasons why I play Blitz instead of WoT PC. *cough* arty
Yea nobody complains about prem ammo in blitz