Been monitoring my Ram Usage on my M1 Ultra Studio for a Year. I am doing Video editing mostly, have a lot of tabs often, and i write music (with samplers, drum plugins etc that use a lot of ram). Guess what... I had 128 Gigs, and most of the time it did not go over 32. Sometimes it spiked, but it NEVER EVER got over 48. So...
Because Apple also use the memory compression technology (similar for iOS, since phone have no swap memory, they are comopress the unused memory in background). But all of the youtuber forgot to mention this, this is why the 8GB similar to 16GB and other OS even mentioned, even uf everyone laughing on it, the fact the 8GB Mac can run softwares what required 16GB on Windows proof that they are handling the memory better like Windows.
May I ask what your video editing timeline resolution is? And what software are you using? Davinci Resolve? I would love to be able to edit in the resolution I'll end up exporting my projects which would be 4K but sometimes even 8K. This obviously requires a lot of RAM so I'm wondering if you're using proxy files or only 1/4th or 1/8th of the timeline resolution as your preview or if your preview actually renders in 4K or 8K and you still don't go over 32GB. Thank you so much in advance!
As an engineer/software developer I got the 16 inch M3 max MacBook Pro with 36GB of memory. Honestly, I think 36GB is pushing my limits a bit. I am averaging around 30GB of RAM usage in a typical work day. Between software and hardware I have already spent over 4k on the laptop and since my budget was finite being a recent college graduate I am going to try and make it work. Honestly I can’t even imagine trying to make the 8GB version work. That would be a total nightmare and Apple should be ashamed they even sell that for a pro oriented computer 😂.
macOS will eat pretty much whatever you give it because the memory is powered up, so why not? Many PC users are confused by macOS memory management as they don't realise most memory usage isn't essential usage. Only when memory pressure is medium-high (Activity Monitor shows yellow) are you actually running low on memory & swap will kick in. Before it gets to this state, compression will reduce memory pressure. So, no there's nothing wrong with 8GB of memory on the base product (as execs browsing Web Apps & reviewing documents are fine) but the memory & storage upgrade costs are ridiculous.
you're kind of a special-use case though, being a developer and such, why on earth would you only get an 8gb? any average person only streaming Netflix and web browsing (and somehow opted for a ~€1k laptop instead of something for ~€400 or less....), 8gb is fine.
I read a post from someone who composes symphonies for a living. He maintains that he needs 128 GB of memory for his workflow. Folks involved in data science and machine learning fields also need massive amounts of memory. I read that photographers who process large amounts of raw photos or work with large panoramic photos with many layers could benefit from having 36 gig of memory.
You can compose symphonies with very little Ram, but you have to use a lot of workarounds like freezing tracks not in use. You can get away with a lot with the right workflow, but the biggest challenge is that not all apps are native and well optimized, and that’s where you need way more Ram to make it work.
@@ghost-user559 A few Kontakt libraries with effects on all articulations and a couple of complex synth channels/.tracks will eat up your RAMM in no time. Don't even get me started on performing live tracks in something like ableton with a lot of processing going on in each track, The word "Need" is definitely not accurate, but the amount of freedom that 128GB would give someone would be worth it to anyone that;s making decent money from music
@@theorncampbell4432 Oh yeah, I mean if you are making money then money isn’t an issue for you to begin with and you should be getting as much as possible. But Logic for example now has a feature that only allows the sounds of the track playing to consume memory at that moment, so it dynamically freezes and unfreezes tracks on the fly. So an orchestra of Sfz or Kontakt or whatever, really like a ton of them with whatever effects you want, and at any given second only the actual sound you hear is taking any ram. Even in the most cluttered symphony at any given moment you still only have so many layers or parts performing at once, and really in any well composed piece less is more. So realistically 16 Gb is the new “minimum”. I think that is less of an issue with these new chips than it was in the past. The ram and cpu just balance out so much more efficiently than the old x86 world. The exception being heavily mastering and adding filters and dynamics to individual parts, but really you should route through a bus for that anyway.
@@theorncampbell4432 Oh yeah, I mean if you are making money then money isn’t an issue for you to begin with and you should be getting as much as possible. But Logic for example now has a feature that only allows the sounds of the track playing to consume memory at that moment, so it dynamically freezes and unfreezes tracks on the fly. So an orchestra of Sfz or Kontakt or whatever, really like a ton of them with whatever effects you want, and at any given second only the actual sound you hear is taking any ram. Even in the most cluttered symphony at any given moment you still only have so many tracks performing at once, and really in any well composed piece less is more. So realistically 16 Gb is the new “minimum”. I think that is less of an issue with these new chips than it was in the past. The ram and cpu just fly. The exception being heavily mastering and adding filters and dynamics to individual parts, but really you should route through a bus for that anyway.
@@theorncampbell4432 Oh yeah, I mean if you are making money then money isn’t an issue for you to begin with and you should be getting as much as possible. But Logic for example now has a feature that only allows the sounds of the track playing to consume memory at that moment, so it dynamically freezes and unfreezes tracks on the fly. So an orchestra of Sfz or Kontakt or whatever, really like a ton of them with whatever effects you want, and at any given second only the actual sound you hear is taking any ram.
For 90% of working people, 16 to 32GB of RAM. For the small 10% of working adults, 48GB of RAM or more! This includes Machine Learning, daily routine 8k video editors, or extreme engineers.
Does this mean 0% of people will be satisfied with 8GB? But in real life I think 70% bought base Mac with 8Gb. You can probably be happy with 8Gb on the MacBook Air, but having 8Gb in the Pro models is disgusting. Keep in mind that in many countries it's pretty hard to buy a non-base model of Mac.
@EugeneKey Macbooks, Mac Mini, or Imac make up less than 10% of the world computer market share. Also, factor in increased RAM use by apps. 8GB was fine 10 years ago as the floor. 12GB would be fine today for adults, but most RAM configurations go from 8GB to 16GB. Middle school kids and high school kids that don't plan on going to college would be fine with 8GB.
Most bs comment read in a while. 8GB is good for anyone running productivity apps and a browser (up to 20 or so tabs). 16GB is good for developers or most professionals even for running 1-2 VMs (allocating 6-8 GB each) and also run VS code + browser terminals. 18GB is the same story as 16GB. You would only need more than 18GB for working with multiple streams of video or editing batches of raw photos etc. What OSX shows you in the activity monitor as "used memory" doesn't mean you are running low mate, it just means even unused but more common apps and data is loaded to RAM if there is enough availability. So don't measure what amount of RAM you need based on Activity Monitor, but use the "Memory Pressure" as an indicator, if memory pressure is higher than 1 when you run your workflow, sure you need more RAM then.
@@madpuri Nope, I'm fine with 16+GB of RAM. I've had 8GB and it was slowing down immensely around 2020 with 20+ tabs open, so your claim is a lie. 16GB runs smoothly with 20+ tabs open and other apps in the background. At my current company, there was an internal study by the IT team. 16GB for any professional grade work was the floor that reduced massive slowdowns and extended the lifespan of the SSD. It was very alarming when comparing the data. Now everyone from the reception desk to the ML expert has a minimum 16GB of RAM. The IT team is getting less system crashes, less ServiceNow tickets, and less money spent on new SSDs. It has even led to the PC refresh cycle to get extended to 4 years (originally 3).
Yes, I spent ~$3,200 for my M3 MacBook with 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD, and a bulletproof Operating System with a useable CLI terminal that will last longer than 3-5 Windows devices used in succession. I don’t have to reboot once or more times a week for software updates. The M3 is outstanding and the only issue I have had is finding ARM64 Linux ISO images to run under Parallels as a virtual machine. Also, not all software for Mac OS from my Intel MacBook worked on the M3 and I had to upgrade or reinstall the ARM64 version. Why 64GB RAM? Speed and the fact I fun multiple VM’s at the same time. I have hit 49GB utilization on occasion. My attitude is buying RAM one up from what you need. Someone, somewhere, sometime, somehow will write some code or app (or bloated web page running an AI subroutine) that will require more RAM. In 2012 a MacBook Pro came with 8GB or 16GB RAM (Intel CPU) and that was sufficient. I remember when MS/DOS had a 512/640KB RAM limit. In 2008? Desktops and Notebooks had ~256MB RAM on a high-end Windows notebook. If you are shelling out the bucks for a MacBook (Pro or Air), Don’t stint on the RAM. Hard Drive? I use about 120GB of my 1TB SSD. MacOS is not a disk hog. You want VM’s? more space? Get a good SSD USB-c external drive. I recommend a Beetle 512GB or 1TB on Amazon with a 40Gbps USB-c cable. So far it has the best times for R/W using Backmagic disk testing application. My MacBook will last at least 7 years simply because I added the RAM. Upside? I have had Windows 11, and ARM64 Linux VM’s working fine. Unlike the Intel 2019, I can run Windows 11 (Visio is the main reason) and 3-4 other Linux VM’s with no appreciable, noticeable performance issues. More storage? I added two Beetle 1TB SSD externals in a RAID1 configuration to keep the VM’s. Additionally, with SoftRaid, I added a 2TB RAID5 set using 4x1TB USB SSDs for archive and backup. Excellent Video!
Im a cybersecurity student and i want to buy my first macbook. 80% of my time in calss i will run VM's on kali linux or windows. what config of M3 should i chose? 1. is the m3 base macbook pro 8gb 256 ssd enough for it? 2.m3 pro macbook 16 gb 512 ssd? 3.m3 pro macbook 18gb 512 ssd?
Great video! You just made my decisions super easy. I really did not understand how memory works on an Apple computers. You broke it down perfectly. Thank you for a very informative video. You just have a new subscriber out of me.
It's kinda simple, without a confusing algorithm, just figure you get 3GB more than windows, so 8GB is like 11, 16 is like 19. Same rules apply for future-proof and VM, just double it up and add some more for not regretting it later.
@@supposedlysavvy yes lol “many”, as in almost any model 13B or under for LLMs, and *Any* image generation model for Stable Diffusion. There’s way too many random models to list them.
That's a lot, I think I'm gonna switch over to the Mac store after this video and get the pro max3 with 32gb. I want this laptop to last at least 5 years
Am literally in the Exact situation...I've been running logic with 8gb for 10 years now and it crashes almost everytime i open it. I've been compromising for so long that i never want the thought that i "need more RAM" to come into my mind again. I thought 64GB would be enough, but now i'm thinking potentially more, as i will be doing video editing aswell.
I’m gonna be recording extremely high sample rates as well as using complex A/V generators simultaneously. I’m about to switch from a maxed out 2012 MacBook to a m4max with 128 gigs. I think it will last me at least 10 years :)
I use a lot of RAM for ram-disk. If you care about SSD and longevity, you use ram-disk for cache, temp data etc. If you have your memory usage under control, you can even turn the whole swapping mechanism off, and then there's no unnecessary swap files created in your system at all.
That's a VERY good point I might start doing that as well. What software are you using to do that on your Mac? I've only ever done that with my Windows PC.
@@jonasgillmann Have you received any of my responses? Probably not. It is not allowed to pass any info of that kind here. The channel owner turned on filtering on everything.
As a music producer , more RAM equals more virtual instruments available in a session without having to utilizing a server, more audio tracks and more plugins. However, someone who is just recording audio doesn't need to max out the RAM 18gb is workable , 36gb is the sweet spot.. Virtual instruments take up the most RAM in a session and even with 128gb it's totally possible to utilize all of it. Most composers that reach that limit however , do run servers to host their virtual instruments. It all depends on if you want to have all that horsepower on the go.
One of the strong suits of M3 MAX is track/effect count increase. I don't want to spend the money to go from MAX to pro, but shy of waiting for an M3 max iMac I think I"m going to have to spend the money. Music producer composers will never be satisfied, but more is always better. 😄
My setup: Docker + Chrome tabs + skype/slack/Microsoft Office + JetBrains IDE + youtube in the background and you end up having 25-30Gb of RAM. My advice is if you're a software dev - 32Gb is a an essential minimum and more.
Just bought my M3 Max 64GB. It’s arriving tomorrow, so excited!!! I hope the RAM is enough, but I couldn’t afford the 128 for $1000 more. I do AI so need all the RAM I can get 😂
I bought 24GB in my 15" M3 MBA because I want the light weight of MBA over MBP, and future proof it to stay snappy for years as software gets more bloated
I have the base m1 8GB and primarily use it for music production. 8 gig is enough to handle smaller projects, it the moment I fire up Superior Drummer 3, the swap kicks in and immediately jumps to 4 to 8 gigs
My daily workflow, with various applications open, word, adobe, excel, powerpoint, maps, Pixelmator, VS Code, Teams, Apple Email, safari, Edge, and Parallels running Windows, is typical; I will easily occupy 64 GB. Indeed, I could close each when done and start them up again, but it would slow me down. So I have 128 GB, and I am never slowed down. I tried 16 GB Air, but there was no way. I am a consultant charging $250 per hour, easy math. Can't believe my workflow is that unusual.
In March, I got a refurbished 16" MacBook Pro M1 Max with 32GB RAM and a 32-core GPU from Amazon for $1,900, and I'm really happy with it. I plan to buy the M4 MacBook when it comes out, and this one does a great job holding me over until then!
My M1 Max MacBook Pro regularly uses 36-40Gb of RAM while rendering in Adobe Premiere, and with only a few Chrome tabs open. Thankfully I got the 64 GB version, without listening to the hype that you need less unified memory than RAM in windows... I guess 32GB could work in a pinch, but it would eventually turn out to be the bottleneck. With that said, for people using Final Cut or Davinci Resolve it could be slightly better as these applications are a bit less RAM-hungry. I would suggest that for people doing professional work 48 or 64GB is the sweet spot leaving some headroom for the future, and 32GB is the minimum to get. It is a pity to spend so much money to get a laptop and then be bottlenecked by RAM...
It will use whatever you have. So you can’t really make the comparison like that. I can do the same thing with 16 GB. It will always use the amount that you have no matter how much, to a point. So if you have 16 it will use most of that, if you have 32 it will use most of that, and if you have 64, it will use most of that. The algorithm ensures there is no wasted resources no matter what. More is always better if you can afford it. But 16 and up are all able to do similar tasks with ease, 8 is where you run into issues.
I love doing photoshoots outdoors because I like the golden hour or having the sky in the background. My old 9 year 27 inch IMac Intel had 16gb of ram and I would batch process photos in photoshop. I would push that. I got the Max with 128 GB and I would push 200 photos with a photoshop action to replace the sky now, no problem. I also love video editing with Final Cut Pro and want to get into more compositing for filmmaking now. I dreaded using my old computer. The laptop allows me to turn work around quicker too, onsite with a client vs the IMac I had.
For what I do + comfort that I would be good for a number of years, I went with the 36gb m3max. I initially bought the m3pro with 18gb, but in the week I had it, I was in the yellow on memory pressure a ton..and on my previous machine with 16gb of ram (2019 mbp), I would somewhat regularly get out of memory messages..
I plan to buy Macbook M3 Pro 16 inch. I am confused between 18GB and 36GB RAM. It is a bit pricey but I want to keep this laptop for so many years. Maybe even 10 years or till it will not be useful anymore. I am not any programmer, coder, editor. I will just use it for daily use such as browsing Internet, watching movies and occassionally trying to play in games like Star Wars, Minecraft or Arkham series etc. I feel like 18 GB is enough but I am worried about future if maybe 36GB is future proof for any updates or games or anything like that. I will be happy for honest advices
Trust me 18GB is more than enough It’s butter smooth thru any app I dont have experience with google chrome 159 open tabs and running 23 apps at once like most youtubers test , maybe if you use laptop this way buy more than 18gb If you use only what you described, 18gb is fantastic deal
Software development is also a big one. I work on Microsoft Dynamics 365 and have to run different virtual machines with different code bases and packages etc. Thus even the 64GB on my machine get's eaten away to 1/5 remaining after opening up 2 virtual machines + my actual device. Edit: My fractions were backwards lol.
It is absolute absurdity seeing people try to run enormous LLM's on compact form factor laptops. I like that people are testing the limits of the new chips but unironically talking about spending 3k+ on a laptop with 128gb of ram is laughable. If you need to run these models just build a desktop computer for 1/3 of the price
Yeah I run LLAMA3 8b on 16 big never even hit swap with multiple browsers open and vscode. 128gb ram not even going to be able to run a 70b LLAMA 3 so it is kind of pointless. I rather just pay for a API but you can use 70b LAMA 3 on GROQ API that is free and fast Google Gemini Pro is currently free too. Almost every where there is better chipsets etc made by apple anyways.
I’m a software engineering consultant, and I often have to create separate MacBook profiles for for each client, which means multiple docker containers, up to 3 or 4 VSCode windows per profile, multiple terminals, multiple browser windows with multiple tabs per profile. Then I also do some Astrophotography as a hobbie which is very resource intensive. I’m going to be getting the 98GB RAM MacBook for this reason. Just in case you were wondering why/how someone needs that much, there’s a real world example!
I am a software developer and I got the M3 Max MacBook Pro with 128 gb of ram , I can run Llama 3.1 70B instruct-Q8 (74GB in size) locally along side with Xcode and a couple of virtual machines running at the same time, it serve me well and the fan was quiet most of the time if I turn on low power mode when running the LLM. For sure, the LLM local inference speed is not great but it is acceptable and still provide good quality answer in result, the benefit is so that I can keep my information safe.
I need 128 GB RAM for training lightweight object detection algorithms and playing around with LLMs. I had an intel macbook pro with 16 GB RAM, I remember using 3TB swap in a single night.
i specced my MBP with 32gb and on any average day i sit between 20 to 22gb of RAM in use but if i want to run an LLM locally that ALONE will already occupy between 20 and 28gb all by itself (depending on model and quantization), slowing everything else down to an absolute CRAWL even opening a simple finder window can take up to a minute to load thumbnails or expand complex folder structures on an unbinned MAX chip my next MBP is going to have 96gb at the LEAST but yeah, everybody's use case is always unique
You can easily run many LLMs on 16 GB, but obviously quantized. It definitely allows larger models, but I have heard hallucinations are worse the larger the model is, and many people have reported ironically that the 13B models can sometimes be more accurate than larger models at this point. I’d like to get my hands on a 128 GB system to really test the top tier models to see how they compare. But there does seem to be less hallucinations with the smaller models.
Buy it nice or buy it twice. I was looking at the m2 air 16/512. Every windows laptop I owned previously I ended up upgrading. Because of this I went with 24gb & 1tb on 15” M2 Air. I plan to keep it as long as OS is updated on this device.
As an hardcore gamer I got m3 pro with 36gigs of ram and 1tb storage but to my dismay, I found out Apple hates games a bit too late . At least it helped me get into music.
A good reason to have a LOT of RAM is Machine Learning workflows. When you want to train a model, you need to add the data the model is gonna learn from in memory. In common GPUs, it's called VRAM. Since in mac is unified, you need a lot of RAM to be able to add your data into memory and train your model effectively (specially when you are training a model on images and stuff).
Amazing video! I do music production as a career and just purchased the m4 pro with 24gb ram. Do you think that will be enough for my work? I have a 14 day return policy.
That’s what I thought. I went back and forth between 24 and 48GB and ultimately decided to take the 48GB. I am still not sure I made the right decision because it costs so much more…
After years with a mac pro that never dips below 40 gb of ram use, I sprung for 64 gb. I suspect that driving scaled displays eats up a good deal of memory if you have a funky resolution and orientation
That’s really interesting to hear, because I’ve got an older Intel MacBook Pro with 16gb of memory and I’ve been running Lightroom classic exporting 50 A7iii RAWs to JPEG whilst browsing Chrome with ~20 tabs open, outlook open as well as various documents etc and my Activity Monitor is showing my memory pressure to be in the green still…however, during that export process it feels like the system grinds to a halt despite tell me that it’s still got plenty of ram left. I’ll be upgrading to an M4 Pro Mabook Pro but I’m currently umming and ahhhing about whether the 24gb will be enough for me or whether I bite the (expensive) bullet and go for the 48gb…
I just got my new MBP 14 inch M2 Pro 12 Core 16GB RAM 1TB SSD in fairly cheap price (MYR 7999 ~ USD 1690), somehow one of the Apple Reseller in Malaysia still hold quite some new stock and decided to do stock clearance While as per comparison: MBP 14 inch M3 16GB RAM 1TB SSD -> MYR 9099 ~ USD 1920 MBP 14 inch M3 Pro 12 Core 18GB RAM 1TB SSD -> MYR 11599 ~ USD 2450 As I'm full stack developer with DevOps background, initially I'm still worry about 16 GB might can't cope but currently so far so good on this for my daily drive, as I got another Intel Linux company laptop with 32 GB RAM I think should be enough for me on my workload
Hey! If you don't mind, Could you share with us how have you been doing with your MBP 16GB Ram between this time? I'm fullstack developer too and would love to know your review, thanks
If you need to run multiple Virtual Machines for testing a network or hitting a server application with some clients it's gonna exceed 64gb RAM quite readily
I have a Mac Pro with 128 gb I run out of memory I’m looking into the 1tb ram now I run a 3d autocad program and I design parts for nasa and jpl trust me rendering a file that’s over 300 gb of raw data I could probably use all 1tb I’m looking at getting now
The funny thing is when I went to upgrade my ideal model of Macbook Pro M3 Pro with 1TB and a little more ram than default, the price of a refurbed M3 Max Chip (Which comes with those specs at Default) is only a little more, but comes with a way more powerful machine. Bloody Apple ladder gets me everytime. The M3 Max refurb im looking at is 5k Australian.
32 - 36gb is really for heavy tasks...I think 80% of Mac users have more than enough with 8 - 16gb even for artistic work...it just depends of your use. I use a base M2 MBA and it is more than enough but next year I think to buy an M3 Macbook Pro with 16 gb Ram
For anyone who cares about performance, 16 gb unlocks the speed of these M series chips for all kinds of tasks. 8gb is a severe bottleneck that someone should only choose if they are the most basic of users. Otherwise slowdowns will be quite a regular occurrence.
I know for sure that I’ll need a 48gb MacBook, minimum but I can’t gauge if a 64gb will be overkill ( I use it mostly for graphic design/ video editing/ motion graphics/ large music sessions/ 3D) Many says that if you can afford it , go for it but this is the only argument that I find for choosing between these too , Do guys have feedbacks ?
If you already know for sure you'll need 48gb then there's no way 64gb is overkill. Look at it like this: for every day that goes by software becomes more hardware demanding. Meanwhile, the hardware in your Macbook can't get replaced/upgraded at any point, you're stuck with what you got. So the more RAM you got in your machine the more future proof it is. It's a matter of longevity. I'd rather have a little too much than too little. That said, if you're planning on selling your Macbook in a couple of years, and use that money to buy a a new M4, M5 etc., then it doesn't make sense to go overboard with the specs on the one you buy today, because of course there is diminishing returns relative to the extra money you have to pay. If you have no plans of selling your Mac and would like to keep it for many years, I wouldn't hesitate a second getting the 64gb version. It's ”only“ $200 extra, which isn't a lot relative to the total amount you pay.
You would need 128gb of ram if you are a film composer that works with sample libraries. A big orchestral session can easily get to 128gb of ram since it's loading thousands of Wav files into RAM.
But what if I need a laptop for doing local AI/ML and training and inference work on LLMs? Unified memory only allows 75% of it to be dedicated to gpu.
Saving up for a m3 pro max with 64gb ram. Im a portrait photographer that likes to do INTENSE and meticulous spot correction on multiple full frame 45mp images across multiple shoots (ADHD so I like to bounce around projects at will) THEN ill bounce the ones I REALLY like to photoshop where I continue the process. I really want overkill and to keep my options open for video work and/or a larger sensor camera (fuji or hassleblad….maybe a phase one 👀) Coming from a 2014 i5 Dell XPS with 32gb ram 🤣
Hopefully, though unlikely, M4 models will have more standard RAM. It’s absurd watching Apple push up RAM in the iPhone while leaving desktops to suffer. It should not surprise them that Mac sales are declining, my presumption being due to the absurd cost of RAM and storage. “Lock them in with soldered components” only works when you have no competitors. Interestingly, some of the Windows hardware manufacturers, Microsoft in particular, are copying Apple’s soldered component design.
The only reason for high RAM: With ray tracing in M3, and support of metal on Octane, Cycles, Redshift PLUS with fact that ram is shared with GPU you may need 32-64 for 3D rendering and composing
I appreciate this video since I have been struggling with how much Ram I should get with my 16" MacBook Pro M3 Max. I typically have PPT, Photoshop, Adobe Audition, Adobe Premiere for editing 4K video and the internet open all at once. I will be running Parallels for some things since I will need to have Windows installed for some plugins that Mac doesn't have but it is essential to my production. I will also have Clip Studio paint for my drawing tablet and Luxology Modo for 3D modeling and rendering. I was originally thinking of going with 128GB of unified memory but do you think I can get away with 64GB?
Generally, increasing the number of CPU cores often necessitates more RAM for specific workloads. As a software developer with a 16-core Ryzen 9 CPU and 32GB RAM, I've found that fully utilizing the CPU typically leads to high RAM consumption. Therefore, a 16-core M3 Max with 48GB RAM seems like a suitable match. Similarly, a 14-core configuration with 36GB RAM could be appropriate. While these observations are based on my experience, it's important to note that the optimal balance of CPU cores and RAM depends on the specific software and tasks involved. I believe it's not only about software engineering, but many other specialists need that extra RAM to avoid RAM bottlenecks too. I'm planning to buy M3 Max with 14 cores, 36 Gb RAM btw.
How much RAM do you recommend for a photography workflow with Lightroom Classic and Photoshop on the new MacBook Pro with M4 Pro chip? I work with RAW photos with 40+ megapixels.
Hi! Thanks for your time and efforts. I have a question. Talking about video editing, macbook m4/32ram or macbook pro m4 pro/36 ram? In addition, is it 1T ok for a long run video-editing work? Here, we are talking about the budget. However, if it is not so good option for a long term use, it should be clearly said. Thanks in advance for your opinion and shared experience.
I don’t close a single tab ever since I know I’ll need it 6 months from now and don’t want to bookmark it. This and have 36 excel docs open at the same time with 50k entries for each doc.
Low RAM wouldn't be a huge issue if you could replace the storage when it dies due to PAGING (and it pages a lot if RAM is low)... but you can't replace the drive, as that's also soldered onto the motherboard. When it inevitably dies, you need a new motherboard or a new device. To add insult to injury, each 8GB of RAM costs about $10 for manufacturers, while Apple's charging us ~$200.
Amazon just had a nice sale on base configs of MacBook Pros during their Prime Days. I currently have an Alienware for gaming (with RX 40 series, multiple SSDs, fast 32GB RAM). Since Amazon had $600 off the unbinned M3 Max 16" base config, I decided to order. The base config that retailers sell are 48GB of RAM and 1TB SSD. I'm upgrading from a 2019 i9 MacBook Pro, and looking forward to seeing how the Apple silicon chips are for battery life. I'll be using the Max for software development, maybe 3D modeling, photo editing, and video rendering. I'm looking forward to seeing how the mini-LED is. From what I can see, I can also do Windows development fairly well with Parallels. The only main thing I can't get over about Apple pricing is the price of SSDs that are soldered on. With my Alienware, I have a 2TB main SSD and a 4TB 2nd SSD (both fast Gen 4). Needless to say they were quite a bit cheaper than Apple's pricing. My current 2019 MacBook has 500GB, but with what I'm intending with my M3 Max, I'll probably use up more of its HD. I've gotten a 2TB 2GBps external SSD if I need to offload some 4K videos or development stuff. But I'm sure I'll still be mindful of hard drive management like I do my current MacBook.
Im using old good boy MacBook 13’ 2013 late with dual core processor and i can’t complain, it’s fine for web browsing and note taking, music etc, my da Vinci resolve free can’t play a video 1080p in raw downscaled from 6k footage but it’s an old computer, but after 11 years the battery can get up to 3 hours
Will it 18gb of ram will be enough for video editing and music production? I do make productions with around 60 audio channels, and for video I do 4k or 5k pro res and h264 and h265
Music Composer uses a lot of ram. I prefer 96 gb or 128gb because a lot of quality sample library uses tons of gb. Gives you freedom to try new things on the fly.
Brother probably not, but what was your experience so far? Cuz I’m doing 1 hour movie with a lot of effects in Adobe ( not 4k however) and by 16 ram literally crashed all the time. I ve got 64 today and don’t know if it will do the trick
My current template for music in sample libraries with nothing else running is 40GB on windows (That's my standard full orchestral template with all the RAM saving features on without sacrificing latency or quality of playback). I'm probably going to expand that template with more sample libraries running so in order to accommodate that I need possibly 96GB or 128GB. I'm trying to justify the M series chips in order to ditch windows, but I can't for 4.5 grand. The 2020 i9 iMac comes with the ability to user load that much ram for less than half the price with an integrated screen and it still runs modern MacOS. I can always upgrade to the modern machine later with a trade-in once the 2020 x86 iMac is out of support.
I own an 24" M1 iMac 8 Gb. It always use around 6 Gb swap. Now I own an 16" M3 Max with 36 Gb and if I do exactly the same things on it, it's using 26 Gb of the ram and zero swap. I hope 36 Gb will be enough in the coming years.
I'm doing masters in graphic design, so far ive used my custom built pc i built in 2021 (ryzen 7, rtx 3070ti, 32gb of ram) and its been woring perfectly fine, but now im looking for a more mobile option. Im stuck between macbook air 15 inch or macbook pro 16 inch and the ram topic is somthing im really torn on. I havent even youched more than 50% ram usage on my PC despite using after effects often at the same time with illustrator, and ive heard macs deal better with using even less ram?
Im a cybersecurity student and i want to buy my first macbook. 80 of my time in calss i will run VM's on kali linux or windows. what config of M3 should i chose? 1. is the m3 base macbook pro 8gb 256 ssd enough for it? 2.m3 pro macbook 16 gb 512 ssd? 3.m3 pro macbook 18gb 512 ssd?
I have 64GB with M1Max and it was one of the best decision in my life... in daily work I'm using 60-80% of it right now... over 2 years ago it was around 40-60% so in that case I have 2-3 years of comfortable use before I will start thinking about new MBP16. (SSD degradation is in 1% lifetime usage... 2TB SSD)
Is there a way to set some boundary on the max RAM that a computer can use? Cuz mine crashes ( literally turns off) in rendering and I’m thinking if I’m gonna set some boundary it won’t take as much ram that it crashes everything
Same this is why my 64gb is coming in the mail tomorrow. Never had anything higher than 16, but my 2016 MacBook bit the dust a month ago. After eight years. The logic board went out. So I hope this next machine can make it 10 years but now I’m not so sure.
So this is my first time buying a macbook, I having been shifting among Windows and Linux machines, and mostly use cloud and virtual machines of 64 gb and 128 gb, as I work in machine learning and quant algorithms, dealing with millions of data points, I am sure I need the M4 Max but not sure if 48 is enough or 64 or 128, I don't know, how to choose
a 15" MBA can be used as an MBP with less weight for all but heavy uses of video rendering or software compiling, if 24GB RAM and storage >512GB for 2 SSD chips instead of 1 for more speed
I was having trouble using an AI video transcription tool on my MacBook Pro M2 Pro 16GB. Any video longer than 15-20 minutes would cause the AI to run out of memory and stop working. I asked a friend with a 32GB model to test it out, and it worked fine. I tried it with even longer videos, and it started requiring more and more RAM, until even 32GB wasn't enough. This is a use case that requires a lot of RAM, even up to 128GB. I use 16GB for game development and it works great, but those are 2D games. I wouldn't even recommend a Mac for 3D development because it doesn't have a lot of GPU libraries, which makes development very difficult. 3D development is only really feasible on Windows.
I got a 2015 Intel Macbook pro with 8gb RAM, I am panning on getting an M3 Pro but I don't know if getting the CPU/GPU or RAM upgrades from the base model are a must for me since I would use it for 3D programs.
M1 Max with 32Gb and I regularly max it out. Every day 32gb is fine but I'm constantly near the limit 28Gb (give or take). Chrome/Brave + Figma (design tool) + Android Emulator already represent 25Gb on average use. If open another tool like Blendr I'm easily short on Ram.
I bought a MacBook pro M3 with 18 GB of ram. I would like to study animation on my own and currently edit videos, basic and simple videos. I use Illustrator , and Photoshop.Tell me I didn't make a bad purchase.😢
Don't worry, you made an excellent purchase. I work in Finalcut Pro, with 4k videos, with transitions, lut's and music, with videos up to 10 minutes long and I have no problems. Most people here saying they have 36, 64 and 128GB RAM spent money needlessly, but they like to say that it was the best purchase they made, when in fact they did the job with less. Next year I'm going to upgrade mine to the m4pro with 36gb because I'm going to start needing to edit larger videos and then the investment will start to pay off, but for now I'm very happy with the 18gb.
I wouldn't mind a 16gb/512gb set up. Unfortunately that may wind up to be the MacBook Pro low end. I still prefer the Airs but there are trade offs for everything.
Things you did not mention, unified ram means also your graphics engine takes something from your working ram upto 30%?, 2nd think about memory channels are 36G faster (4 channels ) then 48G ( 3 channels) ???
I'm Professional Food Photographer. Right now at this moment i have base model Macbook Pro M3 Pro 14 inch with 18GB Ram and 512GB storage. Short answer will be no it is not enough for Professional use. It goes like this. 1. For normal non professional use base model is more than enough 2. If you are normal level professional photographer or videographer forget about base model upgrade to 36GB Ram and 1TB storage. After that if you wish to have super monster powerfull laptop than it is you wish, spend money and add more Ram and Storage but i think it will be unnecessary move. Only one scenario it will be necessary if you are super heavy production level photographer or videographer than YES upgrade your laptop to more Ram and storage
If I’m an amateur photographer/hobbyist who does basic Lightroom editing but would like to use the new AI features, will 16 gb & ssd 1 tb be enough? I just ordered that a couple days ago, and now I’m wondering if that will be insufficient.
@@marcilk7534 no if you have time cancel that order and make your Ram 36GB, later you will understand that you made a good choice, yes adding 200$ more not easy choice, maybe right now you do not have that much money but do something and upgrade your Ram. 36GB it willbe sweet spot, see i do not tell you make 48 or 64 GB noooo it will be too much but 36 absolutely must. Right now you are amateur but later you will become more experienced professional
Guys what do you advise to me? I’m making music with Fl Studio and logic with multiple plug ins open,sometimes I also use editing programs….what m3 should i buy? Thanks
I've used an M1 iMac since the day it came out with only 8gb RAM (Final Cut Pro and normal tasks). Sure, your RAM usage is in the yellow when exporting video, but I never really experience slow-downs or beachballs. If you spend $600 on upgrades, you might as well get a MacMini base model and pass over work to that machine.
RAM also keep cache, and it make work faster (when you often close and open different apps, or one but many times) I'm software developer and on my intel based macbook pro 18GB used by apps and 14 is cache and system use a swap a little. In my opinion for developers 48GB is must have for work without any limits. 16GB is for machine which works only as thin client, when you use ssh or remote desktop for work (ML developers usually use remote powerfull servers for calculations)
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Been monitoring my Ram Usage on my M1 Ultra Studio for a Year. I am doing Video editing mostly, have a lot of tabs often, and i write music (with samplers, drum plugins etc that use a lot of ram). Guess what... I had 128 Gigs, and most of the time it did not go over 32. Sometimes it spiked, but it NEVER EVER got over 48. So...
Because Apple also use the memory compression technology (similar for iOS, since phone have no swap memory, they are comopress the unused memory in background).
But all of the youtuber forgot to mention this, this is why the 8GB similar to 16GB and other OS even mentioned, even uf everyone laughing on it, the fact the 8GB Mac can run softwares what required 16GB on Windows proof that they are handling the memory better like Windows.
May I ask what your video editing timeline resolution is? And what software are you using? Davinci Resolve? I would love to be able to edit in the resolution I'll end up exporting my projects which would be 4K but sometimes even 8K. This obviously requires a lot of RAM so I'm wondering if you're using proxy files or only 1/4th or 1/8th of the timeline resolution as your preview or if your preview actually renders in 4K or 8K and you still don't go over 32GB. Thank you so much in advance!
@@TamasKiss-yk4st so 8GB in Mac is truely 16GB on Linux and Windows? So Apple was right
You kinda wasted money but you got a unicorn machine in a way. LOL, well, it's true
@@MrQuay03 they say it's double but it's not, it's more like add 3GB, roughly. So 8=11 and 16=19, that's the honest true
As an engineer/software developer I got the 16 inch M3 max MacBook Pro with 36GB of memory. Honestly, I think 36GB is pushing my limits a bit. I am averaging around 30GB of RAM usage in a typical work day. Between software and hardware I have already spent over 4k on the laptop and since my budget was finite being a recent college graduate I am going to try and make it work. Honestly I can’t even imagine trying to make the 8GB version work. That would be a total nightmare and Apple should be ashamed they even sell that for a pro oriented computer 😂.
Shouldve gotten a lenovo legion
@@rahmezbasnight6879no
macOS will eat pretty much whatever you give it because the memory is powered up, so why not? Many PC users are confused by macOS memory management as they don't realise most memory usage isn't essential usage. Only when memory pressure is medium-high (Activity Monitor shows yellow) are you actually running low on memory & swap will kick in. Before it gets to this state, compression will reduce memory pressure.
So, no there's nothing wrong with 8GB of memory on the base product (as execs browsing Web Apps & reviewing documents are fine) but the memory & storage upgrade costs are ridiculous.
you're kind of a special-use case though, being a developer and such, why on earth would you only get an 8gb? any average person only streaming Netflix and web browsing (and somehow opted for a ~€1k laptop instead of something for ~€400 or less....), 8gb is fine.
What the heck are you doing. Running docker while turning on android emulator?
I read a post from someone who composes symphonies for a living. He maintains that he needs 128 GB of memory for his workflow. Folks involved in data science and machine learning fields also need massive amounts of memory. I read that photographers who process large amounts of raw photos or work with large panoramic photos with many layers could benefit from having 36 gig of memory.
You can compose symphonies with very little Ram, but you have to use a lot of workarounds like freezing tracks not in use. You can get away with a lot with the right workflow, but the biggest challenge is that not all apps are native and well optimized, and that’s where you need way more Ram to make it work.
@@ghost-user559 A few Kontakt libraries with effects on all articulations and a couple of complex synth channels/.tracks will eat up your RAMM in no time. Don't even get me started on performing live tracks in something like ableton with a lot of processing going on in each track,
The word "Need" is definitely not accurate, but the amount of freedom that 128GB would give someone would be worth it to anyone that;s making decent money from music
@@theorncampbell4432 Oh yeah, I mean if you are making money then money isn’t an issue for you to begin with and you should be getting as much as possible. But Logic for example now has a feature that only allows the sounds of the track playing to consume memory at that moment, so it dynamically freezes and unfreezes tracks on the fly. So an orchestra of Sfz or Kontakt or whatever, really like a ton of them with whatever effects you want, and at any given second only the actual sound you hear is taking any ram. Even in the most cluttered symphony at any given moment you still only have so many layers or parts performing at once, and really in any well composed piece less is more. So realistically 16 Gb is the new “minimum”. I think that is less of an issue with these new chips than it was in the past. The ram and cpu just balance out so much more efficiently than the old x86 world. The exception being heavily mastering and adding filters and dynamics to individual parts, but really you should route through a bus for that anyway.
@@theorncampbell4432 Oh yeah, I mean if you are making money then money isn’t an issue for you to begin with and you should be getting as much as possible. But Logic for example now has a feature that only allows the sounds of the track playing to consume memory at that moment, so it dynamically freezes and unfreezes tracks on the fly. So an orchestra of Sfz or Kontakt or whatever, really like a ton of them with whatever effects you want, and at any given second only the actual sound you hear is taking any ram. Even in the most cluttered symphony at any given moment you still only have so many tracks performing at once, and really in any well composed piece less is more. So realistically 16 Gb is the new “minimum”. I think that is less of an issue with these new chips than it was in the past. The ram and cpu just fly. The exception being heavily mastering and adding filters and dynamics to individual parts, but really you should route through a bus for that anyway.
@@theorncampbell4432 Oh yeah, I mean if you are making money then money isn’t an issue for you to begin with and you should be getting as much as possible. But Logic for example now has a feature that only allows the sounds of the track playing to consume memory at that moment, so it dynamically freezes and unfreezes tracks on the fly. So an orchestra of Sfz or Kontakt or whatever, really like a ton of them with whatever effects you want, and at any given second only the actual sound you hear is taking any ram.
For 90% of working people, 16 to 32GB of RAM.
For the small 10% of working adults, 48GB of RAM or more! This includes Machine Learning, daily routine 8k video editors, or extreme engineers.
Does this mean 0% of people will be satisfied with 8GB? But in real life I think 70% bought base Mac with 8Gb. You can probably be happy with 8Gb on the MacBook Air, but having 8Gb in the Pro models is disgusting. Keep in mind that in many countries it's pretty hard to buy a non-base model of Mac.
@EugeneKey Macbooks, Mac Mini, or Imac make up less than 10% of the world computer market share. Also, factor in increased RAM use by apps.
8GB was fine 10 years ago as the floor. 12GB would be fine today for adults, but most RAM configurations go from 8GB to 16GB. Middle school kids and high school kids that don't plan on going to college would be fine with 8GB.
@@l.m2517 I did. Have you heard of Moore's Law. Interesting subject to look up.
Most bs comment read in a while. 8GB is good for anyone running productivity apps and a browser (up to 20 or so tabs). 16GB is good for developers or most professionals even for running 1-2 VMs (allocating 6-8 GB each) and also run VS code + browser terminals. 18GB is the same story as 16GB.
You would only need more than 18GB for working with multiple streams of video or editing batches of raw photos etc.
What OSX shows you in the activity monitor as "used memory" doesn't mean you are running low mate, it just means even unused but more common apps and data is loaded to RAM if there is enough availability. So don't measure what amount of RAM you need based on Activity Monitor, but use the "Memory Pressure" as an indicator, if memory pressure is higher than 1 when you run your workflow, sure you need more RAM then.
@@madpuri Nope, I'm fine with 16+GB of RAM. I've had 8GB and it was slowing down immensely around 2020 with 20+ tabs open, so your claim is a lie. 16GB runs smoothly with 20+ tabs open and other apps in the background. At my current company, there was an internal study by the IT team. 16GB for any professional grade work was the floor that reduced massive slowdowns and extended the lifespan of the SSD. It was very alarming when comparing the data. Now everyone from the reception desk to the ML expert has a minimum 16GB of RAM. The IT team is getting less system crashes, less ServiceNow tickets, and less money spent on new SSDs. It has even led to the PC refresh cycle to get extended to 4 years (originally 3).
Yes, I spent ~$3,200 for my M3 MacBook with 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD, and a bulletproof Operating System with a useable CLI terminal that will last longer than 3-5 Windows devices used in succession. I don’t have to reboot once or more times a week for software updates.
The M3 is outstanding and the only issue I have had is finding ARM64 Linux ISO images to run under Parallels as a virtual machine. Also, not all software for Mac OS from my Intel MacBook worked on the M3 and I had to upgrade or reinstall the ARM64 version. Why 64GB RAM? Speed and the fact I fun multiple VM’s at the same time. I have hit 49GB utilization on occasion.
My attitude is buying RAM one up from what you need. Someone, somewhere, sometime, somehow will write some code or app (or bloated web page running an AI subroutine) that will require more RAM. In 2012 a MacBook Pro came with 8GB or 16GB RAM (Intel CPU) and that was sufficient. I remember when MS/DOS had a 512/640KB RAM limit. In 2008? Desktops and Notebooks had ~256MB RAM on a high-end Windows notebook. If you are shelling out the bucks for a MacBook (Pro or Air), Don’t stint on the RAM. Hard Drive? I use about 120GB of my 1TB SSD. MacOS is not a disk hog. You want VM’s? more space? Get a good SSD USB-c external drive. I recommend a Beetle 512GB or 1TB on Amazon with a 40Gbps USB-c cable. So far it has the best times for R/W using Backmagic disk testing application. My MacBook will last at least 7 years simply because I added the RAM.
Upside? I have had Windows 11, and ARM64 Linux VM’s working fine. Unlike the Intel 2019, I can run Windows 11 (Visio is the main reason) and 3-4 other Linux VM’s with no appreciable, noticeable performance issues. More storage? I added two Beetle 1TB SSD externals in a RAID1 configuration to keep the VM’s. Additionally, with SoftRaid, I added a 2TB RAID5 set using 4x1TB USB SSDs for archive and backup.
Excellent Video!
I spent $700 on my M1 MBP with 16GB and 1TB SSD and it's working great for me.
I ain’t reading al dat💀
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Try Multipass instead, if you don't mind Ubuntu. Automatic effortless Ubuntu VMs running ARM.
Im a cybersecurity student and i want to buy my first macbook. 80% of my time in calss i will run VM's on kali linux or windows. what config of M3 should i chose?
1. is the m3 base macbook pro 8gb 256 ssd enough for it?
2.m3 pro macbook 16 gb 512 ssd?
3.m3 pro macbook 18gb 512 ssd?
Arthur Winer, This is fantastic! I subscribed because I love it!
Great video! You just made my decisions super easy. I really did not understand how memory works on an Apple computers. You broke it down perfectly. Thank you for a very informative video. You just have a new subscriber out of me.
It's kinda simple, without a confusing algorithm, just figure you get 3GB more than windows, so 8GB is like 11, 16 is like 19. Same rules apply for future-proof and VM, just double it up and add some more for not regretting it later.
I read that ML programmers may need the extremely high RAM for LLM's
You can run many with 16, but to compile them and write them? Yeah you definitely need more.
@@ghost-user559“Many“ 😂😂😂
@@supposedlysavvy yes lol “many”, as in almost any model 13B or under for LLMs, and *Any* image generation model for Stable Diffusion. There’s way too many random models to list them.
Yes the higher the better bcoz you will never be satisfied with whatever you have in data science
Cheaper just paying for a API. 20 dollars goes a long way with something like chat gpt-4
As someone who has been working in music production with only 8 gigs of RAM I rage purchased an M3 Max with 128 gigs of ram and I dont regret a thing
That's a lot, I think I'm gonna switch over to the Mac store after this video and get the pro max3 with 32gb. I want this laptop to last at least 5 years
Am literally in the Exact situation...I've been running logic with 8gb for 10 years now and it crashes almost everytime i open it. I've been compromising for so long that i never want the thought that i "need more RAM" to come into my mind again. I thought 64GB would be enough, but now i'm thinking potentially more, as i will be doing video editing aswell.
@@darkcharmrecords personal opinion but go for 40+GB if you want it to last for a long time. Buy for what you need in the future, not now
yeah sure the real question is what part of the amount over 32 are you missing, you just don't know, but it's fine i guess
I’m gonna be recording extremely high sample rates as well as using complex A/V generators simultaneously. I’m about to switch from a maxed out 2012 MacBook to a m4max with 128 gigs. I think it will last me at least 10 years :)
I use a lot of RAM for ram-disk. If you care about SSD and longevity, you use ram-disk for cache, temp data etc. If you have your memory usage under control, you can even turn the whole swapping mechanism off, and then there's no unnecessary swap files created in your system at all.
That's a VERY good point I might start doing that as well. What software are you using to do that on your Mac? I've only ever done that with my Windows PC.
@@jonasgillmann I just wrote a script. All you need is already in the system.
@@PeterRince Well, I guess I'm not talented enough to write such a script for myself. Is there any way you could share it with me or all of us?
@@jonasgillmann It's hard to paste here anything. Check pastebin with A59BcBfp
@@jonasgillmann Have you received any of my responses? Probably not. It is not allowed to pass any info of that kind here. The channel owner turned on filtering on everything.
As a music producer , more RAM equals more virtual instruments available in a session without having to utilizing a server, more audio tracks and more plugins. However, someone who is just recording audio doesn't need to max out the RAM 18gb is workable , 36gb is the sweet spot.. Virtual instruments take up the most RAM in a session and even with 128gb it's totally possible to utilize all of it. Most composers that reach that limit however , do run servers to host their virtual instruments. It all depends on if you want to have all that horsepower on the go.
One of the strong suits of M3 MAX is track/effect count increase. I don't want to spend the money to go from MAX to pro, but shy of waiting for an M3 max iMac I think I"m going to have to spend the money.
Music producer composers will never be satisfied, but more is always better. 😄
Yeah. Jacob Collier has 384gb RAM on his mac.
My setup: Docker + Chrome tabs + skype/slack/Microsoft Office + JetBrains IDE + youtube in the background and you end up having 25-30Gb of RAM. My advice is if you're a software dev - 32Gb is a an essential minimum and more.
Just bought my M3 Max 64GB. It’s arriving tomorrow, so excited!!!
I hope the RAM is enough, but I couldn’t afford the 128 for $1000 more.
I do AI so need all the RAM I can get 😂
how would you play sudoko with just 64 GB ?
@@vaibhavsingh8122Just can’t have Netflix or TH-cam playing at the same time. One workflow at a time with such a low amount of RAM 😂
Dang that must have been expensive. But I feel like it's kind of worth it for ai, because of the unified memory.
How long did it take for yours to arrive from the day of purchase?
Going to buy the same configuration tomorrow.
@@vaibhavsingh8122 if you have 64 gb of ram, you dont play sudoku, sudoku plays you
I bought 24GB in my 15" M3 MBA because I want the light weight of MBA over MBP, and future proof it to stay snappy for years as software gets more bloated
@@Fracture1603 I'd wager it'll be even longer than 5 years before any signs of sluggishness occur
I have the base m1 8GB and primarily use it for music production. 8 gig is enough to handle smaller projects, it the moment I fire up Superior Drummer 3, the swap kicks in and immediately jumps to 4 to 8 gigs
My daily workflow, with various applications open, word, adobe, excel, powerpoint, maps, Pixelmator, VS Code, Teams, Apple Email, safari, Edge, and Parallels running Windows, is typical; I will easily occupy 64 GB. Indeed, I could close each when done and start them up again, but it would slow me down. So I have 128 GB, and I am never slowed down. I tried 16 GB Air, but there was no way. I am a consultant charging $250 per hour, easy math. Can't believe my workflow is that unusual.
How can I too make 250 an hour?
@@BeeNice-ou3op Ph.D. Chemical Engineering
How many storage did you buy?1TB?2TB
I got 128GB RAM for my PC for $180.00. I know unified memory is different but the cost is ridiculous.
Ok thank you no one cares about Pcs
@@davidc.7838so why comment noob
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@@davidc.7838are you mentally challenged?
@@davidc.7838no one ? Lol keep living inside your isheep dome
In March, I got a refurbished 16" MacBook Pro M1 Max with 32GB RAM and a 32-core GPU from Amazon for $1,900, and I'm really happy with it. I plan to buy the M4 MacBook when it comes out, and this one does a great job holding me over until then!
My M1 Max MacBook Pro regularly uses 36-40Gb of RAM while rendering in Adobe Premiere, and with only a few Chrome tabs open.
Thankfully I got the 64 GB version, without listening to the hype that you need less unified memory than RAM in windows... I guess 32GB could work in a pinch, but it would eventually turn out to be the bottleneck.
With that said, for people using Final Cut or Davinci Resolve it could be slightly better as these applications are a bit less RAM-hungry.
I would suggest that for people doing professional work 48 or 64GB is the sweet spot leaving some headroom for the future, and 32GB is the minimum to get.
It is a pity to spend so much money to get a laptop and then be bottlenecked by RAM...
It will use whatever you have. So you can’t really make the comparison like that. I can do the same thing with 16 GB. It will always use the amount that you have no matter how much, to a point. So if you have 16 it will use most of that, if you have 32 it will use most of that, and if you have 64, it will use most of that. The algorithm ensures there is no wasted resources no matter what. More is always better if you can afford it. But 16 and up are all able to do similar tasks with ease, 8 is where you run into issues.
I love doing photoshoots outdoors because I like the golden hour or having the sky in the background. My old 9 year 27 inch IMac Intel had 16gb of ram and I would batch process photos in photoshop. I would push that. I got the Max with 128 GB and I would push 200 photos with a photoshop action to replace the sky now, no problem. I also love video editing with Final Cut Pro and want to get into more compositing for filmmaking now. I dreaded using my old computer. The laptop allows me to turn work around quicker too, onsite with a client vs the IMac I had.
For what I do + comfort that I would be good for a number of years, I went with the 36gb m3max. I initially bought the m3pro with 18gb, but in the week I had it, I was in the yellow on memory pressure a ton..and on my previous machine with 16gb of ram (2019 mbp), I would somewhat regularly get out of memory messages..
well what do you do exactly, sounds interesting for sure
There is no such thing as too much memory for teaching an LLM model. This type of memory is a huge competitive advantage over all other manufacturers.
But people use External GPU and basically a desktop or a server for that kind of task.
local LLM vs cloud who are you kidding really? You're personally taking on Sam Altman in a competition? Your dataset is a crumb, but you do you
I plan to buy Macbook M3 Pro 16 inch. I am confused between 18GB and 36GB RAM. It is a bit pricey but I want to keep this laptop for so many years. Maybe even 10 years or till it will not be useful anymore.
I am not any programmer, coder, editor. I will just use it for daily use such as browsing Internet, watching movies and occassionally trying to play in games like Star Wars, Minecraft or Arkham series etc.
I feel like 18 GB is enough but I am worried about future if maybe 36GB is future proof for any updates or games or anything like that. I will be happy for honest advices
Trust me 18GB is more than enough
It’s butter smooth thru any app
I dont have experience with google chrome 159 open tabs and running 23 apps at once like most youtubers test , maybe if you use laptop this way buy more than 18gb
If you use only what you described, 18gb is fantastic deal
I need 128 because I run windows alongside with parallels
Software development is also a big one. I work on Microsoft Dynamics 365 and have to run different virtual machines with different code bases and packages etc. Thus even the 64GB on my machine get's eaten away to 1/5 remaining after opening up 2 virtual machines + my actual device.
Edit: My fractions were backwards lol.
It is absolute absurdity seeing people try to run enormous LLM's on compact form factor laptops. I like that people are testing the limits of the new chips but unironically talking about spending 3k+ on a laptop with 128gb of ram is laughable. If you need to run these models just build a desktop computer for 1/3 of the price
Yeah I run LLAMA3 8b on 16 big never even hit swap with multiple browsers open and vscode. 128gb ram not even going to be able to run a 70b LLAMA 3 so it is kind of pointless. I rather just pay for a API but you can use 70b LAMA 3 on GROQ API that is free and fast Google Gemini Pro is currently free too. Almost every where there is better chipsets etc made by apple anyways.
I’m a software engineering consultant, and I often have to create separate MacBook profiles for for each client, which means multiple docker containers, up to 3 or 4 VSCode windows per profile, multiple terminals, multiple browser windows with multiple tabs per profile. Then I also do some Astrophotography as a hobbie which is very resource intensive. I’m going to be getting the 98GB RAM MacBook for this reason. Just in case you were wondering why/how someone needs that much, there’s a real world example!
I also want to buy mac for my work, how many storages did you buy? 1TB?2TB?
I am a software developer and I got the M3 Max MacBook Pro with 128 gb of ram , I can run Llama 3.1 70B instruct-Q8 (74GB in size) locally along side with Xcode and a couple of virtual machines running at the same time, it serve me well and the fan was quiet most of the time if I turn on low power mode when running the LLM. For sure, the LLM local inference speed is not great but it is acceptable and still provide good quality answer in result, the benefit is so that I can keep my information safe.
I need 128 GB RAM for training lightweight object detection algorithms and playing around with LLMs. I had an intel macbook pro with 16 GB RAM, I remember using 3TB swap in a single night.
my brain can beat your LLM for cheaper, and I don't even charge Indian slave labour prices
Hey, Arthur! This is a great, very useful video! I noticed, that you have russian keyboard on your Macbook. Do you speak russian?
i specced my MBP with 32gb and on any average day i sit between 20 to 22gb of RAM in use
but if i want to run an LLM locally that ALONE will already occupy between 20 and 28gb all by itself (depending on model and quantization), slowing everything else down to an absolute CRAWL
even opening a simple finder window can take up to a minute to load thumbnails or expand complex folder structures on an unbinned MAX chip
my next MBP is going to have 96gb at the LEAST
but yeah, everybody's use case is always unique
You can easily run many LLMs on 16 GB, but obviously quantized. It definitely allows larger models, but I have heard hallucinations are worse the larger the model is, and many people have reported ironically that the 13B models can sometimes be more accurate than larger models at this point. I’d like to get my hands on a 128 GB system to really test the top tier models to see how they compare. But there does seem to be less hallucinations with the smaller models.
Buy it nice or buy it twice. I was looking at the m2 air 16/512. Every windows laptop I owned previously I ended up upgrading. Because of this I went with 24gb & 1tb on 15” M2 Air. I plan to keep it as long as OS is updated on this device.
Yeah that'll last you a long time for sure! I went with M3 iMac 16/512
Best Video about RAM I’ve ever seen. Thank you!
I get low memory errors all the time on a iMac with 16 GB of ram when I run Parallels.
Makes sense
As an hardcore gamer I got m3 pro with 36gigs of ram and 1tb storage but to my dismay, I found out Apple hates games a bit too late . At least it helped me get into music.
While you do your stuff in music. It won't be a waste.
Should I get the MacBook Pro M3 with 24GB or the M3 Pro baseline with 18GB?
Totally stuck which would have more longevity.
+1
Thank you for providing such informative content.
I just got the 16" M3 Max with 48gb and its been enough for my usage.
hi, how about this video for m4, a lot of people struggling deciding between 24 and spending stupid amount of money on 48
A good reason to have a LOT of RAM is Machine Learning workflows. When you want to train a model, you need to add the data the model is gonna learn from in memory. In common GPUs, it's called VRAM. Since in mac is unified, you need a lot of RAM to be able to add your data into memory and train your model effectively (specially when you are training a model on images and stuff).
Amazing video! I do music production as a career and just purchased the m4 pro with 24gb ram. Do you think that will be enough for my work? I have a 14 day return policy.
That’s what I thought. I went back and forth between 24 and 48GB and ultimately decided to take the 48GB. I am still not sure I made the right decision because it costs so much more…
After years with a mac pro that never dips below 40 gb of ram use, I sprung for 64 gb. I suspect that driving scaled displays eats up a good deal of memory if you have a funky resolution and orientation
This video was extremely helpful and informative!!
18Gigs m3pro. Running apps: adobe lightroom, couple of photo viewers and one tab of safari. Memory pressure is orange, 3gigs of swap in use
That’s really interesting to hear, because I’ve got an older Intel MacBook Pro with 16gb of memory and I’ve been running Lightroom classic exporting 50 A7iii RAWs to JPEG whilst browsing Chrome with ~20 tabs open, outlook open as well as various documents etc and my Activity Monitor is showing my memory pressure to be in the green still…however, during that export process it feels like the system grinds to a halt despite tell me that it’s still got plenty of ram left. I’ll be upgrading to an M4 Pro Mabook Pro but I’m currently umming and ahhhing about whether the 24gb will be enough for me or whether I bite the (expensive) bullet and go for the 48gb…
@ I returned 18gigs to Apple and bought 36gigs for $100 less at bestbuy
I just got my new MBP 14 inch M2 Pro 12 Core 16GB RAM 1TB SSD in fairly cheap price (MYR 7999 ~ USD 1690), somehow one of the Apple Reseller in Malaysia still hold quite some new stock and decided to do stock clearance
While as per comparison:
MBP 14 inch M3 16GB RAM 1TB SSD -> MYR 9099 ~ USD 1920
MBP 14 inch M3 Pro 12 Core 18GB RAM 1TB SSD -> MYR 11599 ~ USD 2450
As I'm full stack developer with DevOps background, initially I'm still worry about 16 GB might can't cope but currently so far so good on this for my daily drive, as I got another Intel Linux company laptop with 32 GB RAM I think should be enough for me on my workload
Hey! If you don't mind, Could you share with us how have you been doing with your MBP 16GB Ram between this time? I'm fullstack developer too and would love to know your review, thanks
If you need to run multiple Virtual Machines for testing a network or hitting a server application with some clients it's gonna exceed 64gb RAM quite readily
Hi, any idea if virtualizing Win11 will need 8 or 16GB ram? Shall you go to 512 SSD for swap file rather than increase to 16GB Ram?
I use 16gb for parallels running windows and it is great with m1pro very smooth. 8 go was doable but a lot of swap and not as smooth.
I got 64 gb of ram on the m3, its pretty great
M3 pro* m3s max is only 24
so 16gb is capable of consistent 4k drone video editing?
I have a Mac Pro with 128 gb I run out of memory I’m looking into the 1tb ram now I run a 3d autocad program and I design parts for nasa and jpl trust me rendering a file that’s over 300 gb of raw data I could probably use all 1tb I’m looking at getting now
The funny thing is when I went to upgrade my ideal model of Macbook Pro M3 Pro with 1TB and a little more ram than default, the price of a refurbed M3 Max Chip (Which comes with those specs at Default) is only a little more, but comes with a way more powerful machine. Bloody Apple ladder gets me everytime. The M3 Max refurb im looking at is 5k Australian.
32 - 36gb is really for heavy tasks...I think 80% of Mac users have more than enough with 8 - 16gb even for artistic work...it just depends of your use. I use a base M2 MBA and it is more than enough but next year I think to buy an M3 Macbook Pro with 16 gb Ram
For anyone who cares about performance, 16 gb unlocks the speed of these M series chips for all kinds of tasks. 8gb is a severe bottleneck that someone should only choose if they are the most basic of users. Otherwise slowdowns will be quite a regular occurrence.
16GB sure, but definitely not 8.
I know for sure that I’ll need a 48gb MacBook, minimum but I can’t gauge if a 64gb will be overkill ( I use it mostly for graphic design/ video editing/ motion graphics/ large music sessions/ 3D)
Many says that if you can afford it , go for it but this is the only argument that I find for choosing between these too , Do guys have feedbacks ?
If you already know for sure you'll need 48gb then there's no way 64gb is overkill. Look at it like this: for every day that goes by software becomes more hardware demanding. Meanwhile, the hardware in your Macbook can't get replaced/upgraded at any point, you're stuck with what you got. So the more RAM you got in your machine the more future proof it is. It's a matter of longevity. I'd rather have a little too much than too little.
That said, if you're planning on selling your Macbook in a couple of years, and use that money to buy a a new M4, M5 etc., then it doesn't make sense to go overboard with the specs on the one you buy today, because of course there is diminishing returns relative to the extra money you have to pay. If you have no plans of selling your Mac and would like to keep it for many years, I wouldn't hesitate a second getting the 64gb version. It's ”only“ $200 extra, which isn't a lot relative to the total amount you pay.
You would need 128gb of ram if you are a film composer that works with sample libraries. A big orchestral session can easily get to 128gb of ram since it's loading thousands of Wav files into RAM.
What RAM on one of these is best for graphic design?
But what if I need a laptop for doing local AI/ML and training and inference work on LLMs? Unified memory only allows 75% of it to be dedicated to gpu.
Saving up for a m3 pro max with 64gb ram. Im a portrait photographer that likes to do INTENSE and meticulous spot correction on multiple full frame 45mp images across multiple shoots (ADHD so I like to bounce around projects at will) THEN ill bounce the ones I REALLY like to photoshop where I continue the process. I really want overkill and to keep my options open for video work and/or a larger sensor camera (fuji or hassleblad….maybe a phase one 👀)
Coming from a 2014 i5 Dell XPS with 32gb ram 🤣
how many years 48 gb m3 max will last , for 16inch mac
Hopefully, though unlikely,
M4 models will have more standard RAM. It’s absurd watching Apple push up RAM in the iPhone while leaving desktops to suffer. It should not surprise them that Mac sales are declining, my presumption being due to the absurd cost of RAM and storage. “Lock them in with soldered components” only works when you have no competitors. Interestingly, some of the Windows hardware manufacturers, Microsoft in particular, are copying Apple’s soldered component design.
The only reason for high RAM: With ray tracing in M3, and support of metal on Octane, Cycles, Redshift PLUS with fact that ram is shared with GPU you may need 32-64 for 3D rendering and composing
128 gb ram is so useful for after effects because it’s a ram intensive application
I appreciate this video since I have been struggling with how much Ram I should get with my 16" MacBook Pro M3 Max. I typically have PPT, Photoshop, Adobe Audition, Adobe Premiere for editing 4K video and the internet open all at once. I will be running Parallels for some things since I will need to have Windows installed for some plugins that Mac doesn't have but it is essential to my production. I will also have Clip Studio paint for my drawing tablet and Luxology Modo for 3D modeling and rendering.
I was originally thinking of going with 128GB of unified memory but do you think I can get away with 64GB?
64 will do you fine, maybe 48 even
Generally, increasing the number of CPU cores often necessitates more RAM for specific workloads. As a software developer with a 16-core Ryzen 9 CPU and 32GB RAM, I've found that fully utilizing the CPU typically leads to high RAM consumption. Therefore, a 16-core M3 Max with 48GB RAM seems like a suitable match. Similarly, a 14-core configuration with 36GB RAM could be appropriate. While these observations are based on my experience, it's important to note that the optimal balance of CPU cores and RAM depends on the specific software and tasks involved. I believe it's not only about software engineering, but many other specialists need that extra RAM to avoid RAM bottlenecks too. I'm planning to buy M3 Max with 14 cores, 36 Gb RAM btw.
M2 Max 32/512 lots of tabs in Firefox -> 18 GB used
So close some tabs.
How much RAM do you recommend for a photography workflow with Lightroom Classic and Photoshop on the new MacBook Pro with M4 Pro chip? I work with RAW photos with 40+ megapixels.
Hi! Thanks for your time and efforts. I have a question. Talking about video editing, macbook m4/32ram or macbook pro m4 pro/36 ram? In addition, is it 1T ok for a long run video-editing work? Here, we are talking about the budget. However, if it is not so good option for a long term use, it should be clearly said. Thanks in advance for your opinion and shared experience.
I don’t close a single tab ever since I know I’ll need it 6 months from now and don’t want to bookmark it. This and have 36 excel docs open at the same time with 50k entries for each doc.
Low RAM wouldn't be a huge issue if you could replace the storage when it dies due to PAGING (and it pages a lot if RAM is low)... but you can't replace the drive, as that's also soldered onto the motherboard. When it inevitably dies, you need a new motherboard or a new device. To add insult to injury, each 8GB of RAM costs about $10 for manufacturers, while Apple's charging us ~$200.
Amazon just had a nice sale on base configs of MacBook Pros during their Prime Days. I currently have an Alienware for gaming (with RX 40 series, multiple SSDs, fast 32GB RAM). Since Amazon had $600 off the unbinned M3 Max 16" base config, I decided to order. The base config that retailers sell are 48GB of RAM and 1TB SSD. I'm upgrading from a 2019 i9 MacBook Pro, and looking forward to seeing how the Apple silicon chips are for battery life. I'll be using the Max for software development, maybe 3D modeling, photo editing, and video rendering. I'm looking forward to seeing how the mini-LED is. From what I can see, I can also do Windows development fairly well with Parallels. The only main thing I can't get over about Apple pricing is the price of SSDs that are soldered on. With my Alienware, I have a 2TB main SSD and a 4TB 2nd SSD (both fast Gen 4). Needless to say they were quite a bit cheaper than Apple's pricing. My current 2019 MacBook has 500GB, but with what I'm intending with my M3 Max, I'll probably use up more of its HD. I've gotten a 2TB 2GBps external SSD if I need to offload some 4K videos or development stuff. But I'm sure I'll still be mindful of hard drive management like I do my current MacBook.
I went with 48gb as I run virtual machines and phot edit sw when M4 comes I’ll be getting 64gb
Tx Man! Helpful.
Im using old good boy MacBook 13’ 2013 late with dual core processor and i can’t complain, it’s fine for web browsing and note taking, music etc, my da Vinci resolve free can’t play a video 1080p in raw downscaled from 6k footage but it’s an old computer, but after 11 years the battery can get up to 3 hours
Will it 18gb of ram will be enough for video editing and music production? I do make productions with around 60 audio channels, and for video I do 4k or 5k pro res and h264 and h265
Music Composer uses a lot of ram. I prefer 96 gb or 128gb because a lot of quality sample library uses tons of gb. Gives you freedom to try new things on the fly.
16 GB of Unified Memory is enought for 4k video editing with many effect ?
Depends on what app you use. If Adobe, I recommend 36GB M3 Pro MB Pro.
Brother probably not, but what was your experience so far?
Cuz I’m doing 1 hour movie with a lot of effects in Adobe ( not 4k however) and by 16 ram literally crashed all the time.
I ve got 64 today and don’t know if it will do the trick
My current template for music in sample libraries with nothing else running is 40GB on windows (That's my standard full orchestral template with all the RAM saving features on without sacrificing latency or quality of playback). I'm probably going to expand that template with more sample libraries running so in order to accommodate that I need possibly 96GB or 128GB. I'm trying to justify the M series chips in order to ditch windows, but I can't for 4.5 grand. The 2020 i9 iMac comes with the ability to user load that much ram for less than half the price with an integrated screen and it still runs modern MacOS. I can always upgrade to the modern machine later with a trade-in once the 2020 x86 iMac is out of support.
I own an 24" M1 iMac 8 Gb. It always use around 6 Gb swap. Now I own an 16" M3 Max with 36 Gb and if I do exactly the same things on it, it's using 26 Gb of the ram and zero swap. I hope 36 Gb will be enough in the coming years.
I experience the same thing. It seems the only way to know if there's not enough RAM is when it starts lagging... I guess
I'm doing masters in graphic design, so far ive used my custom built pc i built in 2021 (ryzen 7, rtx 3070ti, 32gb of ram) and its been woring perfectly fine, but now im looking for a more mobile option. Im stuck between macbook air 15 inch or macbook pro 16 inch and the ram topic is somthing im really torn on. I havent even youched more than 50% ram usage on my PC despite using after effects often at the same time with illustrator, and ive heard macs deal better with using even less ram?
Im a cybersecurity student and i want to buy my first macbook. 80 of my time in calss i will run VM's on kali linux or windows. what config of M3 should i chose?
1. is the m3 base macbook pro 8gb 256 ssd enough for it?
2.m3 pro macbook 16 gb 512 ssd?
3.m3 pro macbook 18gb 512 ssd?
I have 64GB with M1Max and it was one of the best decision in my life... in daily work I'm using 60-80% of it right now... over 2 years ago it was around 40-60% so in that case I have 2-3 years of comfortable use before I will start thinking about new MBP16. (SSD degradation is in 1% lifetime usage... 2TB SSD)
Is there a way to set some boundary on the max RAM that a computer can use? Cuz mine crashes ( literally turns off) in rendering and I’m thinking if I’m gonna set some boundary it won’t take as much ram that it crashes everything
You asked why I would buy the 128 GB of RAM option. The answer is simple: I do not intend to replace my Mac for another 10 years.
Same this is why my 64gb is coming in the mail tomorrow. Never had anything higher than 16, but my 2016 MacBook bit the dust a month ago. After eight years. The logic board went out. So I hope this next machine can make it 10 years but now I’m not so sure.
So this is my first time buying a macbook, I having been shifting among Windows and Linux machines, and mostly use cloud and virtual machines of 64 gb and 128 gb, as I work in machine learning and quant algorithms, dealing with millions of data points, I am sure I need the M4 Max but not sure if 48 is enough or 64 or 128, I don't know, how to choose
a 15" MBA can be used as an MBP with less weight for all but heavy uses of video rendering or software compiling, if 24GB RAM and storage >512GB for 2 SSD chips instead of 1 for more speed
Just apply noise reduction on a RAW clip and you will need plenty more RAM
Go with the max RAM. I run Windows 11 and Kali concurrently with no issues. I have 64GB RAM with a 1TB SSD. I use Parallels for virtualization.
I was having trouble using an AI video transcription tool on my MacBook Pro M2 Pro 16GB. Any video longer than 15-20 minutes would cause the AI to run out of memory and stop working. I asked a friend with a 32GB model to test it out, and it worked fine. I tried it with even longer videos, and it started requiring more and more RAM, until even 32GB wasn't enough. This is a use case that requires a lot of RAM, even up to 128GB.
I use 16GB for game development and it works great, but those are 2D games. I wouldn't even recommend a Mac for 3D development because it doesn't have a lot of GPU libraries, which makes development very difficult. 3D development is only really feasible on Windows.
I got a 2015 Intel Macbook pro with 8gb RAM, I am panning on getting an M3 Pro but I don't know if getting the CPU/GPU or RAM upgrades from the base model are a must for me since I would use it for 3D programs.
I just ordered a pro with 64gb ram
lol. Never had anything higher than 16
M1 Max with 32Gb and I regularly max it out. Every day 32gb is fine but I'm constantly near the limit 28Gb (give or take). Chrome/Brave + Figma (design tool) + Android Emulator already represent 25Gb on average use. If open another tool like Blendr I'm easily short on Ram.
I bought a MacBook pro M3 with 18 GB of ram. I would like to study animation on my own and currently edit videos, basic and simple videos. I use Illustrator , and Photoshop.Tell me I didn't make a bad purchase.😢
Don't worry, you made an excellent purchase. I work in Finalcut Pro, with 4k videos, with transitions, lut's and music, with videos up to 10 minutes long and I have no problems. Most people here saying they have 36, 64 and 128GB RAM spent money needlessly, but they like to say that it was the best purchase they made, when in fact they did the job with less. Next year I'm going to upgrade mine to the m4pro with 36gb because I'm going to start needing to edit larger videos and then the investment will start to pay off, but for now I'm very happy with the 18gb.
@@plairesfx Thanks, I appreciate it! 🙌🏽
I plan to use logic pro and high school on a m2 air 512gb. How much ram should i get?
I wouldn't mind a 16gb/512gb set up. Unfortunately that may wind up to be the MacBook Pro low end. I still prefer the Airs but there are trade offs for everything.
Things you did not mention, unified ram means also your graphics engine takes something from your working ram upto 30%?, 2nd think about memory channels are 36G faster (4 channels ) then 48G ( 3 channels) ???
What about if you want to use a high parameter LLM ? Those need all the ram they can get I think even the 128 gb would be struggling with a 7x22b
I'm Professional Food Photographer. Right now at this moment i have base model Macbook Pro M3 Pro 14 inch with 18GB Ram and 512GB storage. Short answer will be no it is not enough for Professional use.
It goes like this.
1. For normal non professional use base model is more than enough
2. If you are normal level professional photographer or videographer forget about base model upgrade to 36GB Ram and 1TB storage. After that if you wish to have super monster powerfull laptop than it is you wish, spend money and add more Ram and Storage but i think it will be unnecessary move. Only one scenario it will be necessary if you are super heavy production level photographer or videographer than YES upgrade your laptop to more Ram and storage
If I’m an amateur photographer/hobbyist who does basic Lightroom editing but would like to use the new AI features, will 16 gb & ssd 1 tb be enough? I just ordered that a couple days ago, and now I’m wondering if that will be insufficient.
@@marcilk7534 no if you have time cancel that order and make your Ram 36GB, later you will understand that you made a good choice, yes adding 200$ more not easy choice, maybe right now you do not have that much money but do something and upgrade your Ram. 36GB it willbe sweet spot, see i do not tell you make 48 or 64 GB noooo it will be too much but 36 absolutely must. Right now you are amateur but later you will become more experienced professional
I am guessing 16 GB is good enough for VB Basic programming and macros with 512GB Hard Drive
Guys what do you advise to me?
I’m making music with Fl Studio and logic with multiple plug ins open,sometimes I also use editing programs….what m3 should i buy?
Thanks
I've used an M1 iMac since the day it came out with only 8gb RAM (Final Cut Pro and normal tasks). Sure, your RAM usage is in the yellow when exporting video, but I never really experience slow-downs or beachballs. If you spend $600 on upgrades, you might as well get a MacMini base model and pass over work to that machine.
RAM also keep cache, and it make work faster (when you often close and open different apps, or one but many times) I'm software developer and on my intel based macbook pro 18GB used by apps and 14 is cache and system use a swap a little. In my opinion for developers 48GB is must have for work without any limits. 16GB is for machine which works only as thin client, when you use ssh or remote desktop for work (ML developers usually use remote powerfull servers for calculations)