@@ltecherofficalme at 4GB too , it's the work flow count, type a line hit the enter key than I go to make coffee and open the phone replying messages 😂
As a simulation engineer, I couldn't agree more. I do most of the heavy computations on a cluster so the lightweight and quiet MBA M1 with amazing battery life is just perfect.
Just the Air, crazy my Mac Pro 2020 8Gb Ram Core i5 since I bought it, becomes slow and the fan is loud when i open many tabs and browsers at the same time. Is it normal? Or need a better ram?
@@rezhaadriantanuharja3389 never know this even exists 🤦♂️ thanks man. Now I'll be aware of that, I don't know why they didn't mentioned those choices when I was buying it.
Hi Arthur, can you help me with this decision? Yesterday I bought two MacBook Pro models: 1. MacBook Pro (14-inch) - Apple M2 Pro chip with 12-core CPU and 19-core GPU, 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM (2023) - $1850 2. MacBook Pro (14-inch) - Apple M2 Pro chip with 10-core CPU and 16-core GPU, 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM (2023) - $1350 I also have a question: Which one should I keep and which one should I return? (Which one is more valuable?)" The difference is 500$ is it worth it!
My 2 cents - what would you use this for? If the work load is super heavy then those extra cores would come handy. I think you got a good one for 1350. For my workflows coding included and testing programs with bunch of chrome and safari tabs, i would keep the 1350$ model. I would just buy external ssd for my read and writes.
If you haven’t bought one yet, I may suggest the M1 Max also to stir up the pot, you could get a 10-32 cores w/ 1tb of storage and 32gb of ram for $1897 from back market. Plus there are also other options of the M1 Max with 10-24core for the 1500 range, just a thought tho Oh and on top of that it’s the 16 inch option
I want to get my first Mac and I am interested in M2 Pro 14” 16Gb and 512Gb SSD, the base model, but I’ve been reading that as it’s only a ssd block (not 256-256) the speed and data transmission is not like it should be and goes slow in some cases. That is true at the level that it bothers or there is lag if you have several tabs open in Safari, streaming app,... editing photos just time to time. I don't want to spend that money and then find something that I didn't want. Whoever has it, could you help me? What is the experience like on a day-to-day basis? Thank you
Agreed. My wife can compile a large code base with the M1 Pro. RAM upgrades or lower prices on increasing RAM at initial purchase are far more valuable.
I can tell you without even watching this video that if my Mac was running the iPad A12X that would be plenty of CPU for me. It doesn’t take too much to run stuff in the terminal, do what I need to on the web, make spreadsheets and Pages docs and occasionally make video. Currently have an M1 & M2 Mac. The biggest thing is Ram. 16 GB minimum If I don’t want to pay close attention to usage like on my M2 Air.
My problem is I like to have large internal storage and once you start adding that the processors or ram just become similarly priced or for 200 more you can bump to next upgrade e
Looking for advice, as a semi-professional creative wanting to future proof my laptop but not break the bank. Using ON1RAW photo & adobe Premiere Pro/Davinci Resolve, indesign, Lightroom. Should I go for Macbook Pro, 14 inch: M3 Pro chip with 18GB RAM, -11 core CPU-14 core GPU (€2300, new. pushing my budget...) M2 Pro chip, 16GB RAM, 10C-CPU 16C-GPU (€2049, apple certified refurbished) M1 Pro chip with 32GB RAM, 10 cores. (second hand from an individual with only 237 cycle counts on the battery, 89% battery health) for €1775
I presented a large PDF file through MS Teams on a MacBook Air M2 with 8 GB of memory to a customer. In the middle of a presentation, I got an error (like memory overflow), and the thing came crashing into my preso, and I almost lost that customer. The next day, I ordered a MacBook Pro Max from Amazon with 36 GB of memory. I didn't call the max configuration because it had a 200-dollar discount on this configuration and didn't give me the option to upgrade. I don't know if I will use all that power, but it is here if needed.😊
Unfortunately the chipsets are powerful, but 8GB ram really isn't gonna be long lasting. 16GB is the minimum for longevity, it's a crime how 8GB is still the base
@@MonsieurGuy 8 GB in 2024 is criminal. The world evolves, and Apple continues with this insane business proposition: how much will it cost to have 16 GB as a minimum? It's not much for them, but they prefer to continue doing it, as most customers don't come online to expose their frustration with 8 GB.
I am thinking about getting a mac coming from pc. I do a lot of virtualization labs on my current windows pc. I don't edit videos that much only for family trips. I just do alot of Sys admin type stuff. What do you thikn the best chip is.
I have an early 2015 MacBook pro with intel and wanna get the MacBook Pro m3 pro. I do a lot of web browsing for work using a lot of chrome extensions. Is M1 or M2 enough for this work load? It’s not heavy work like editing and stuff like that but I would eventually like to start editing my own videos and stuff
I upgraded from my 2015 15" maxed out macbook pro to a 16" m3max (40 core gpu) with 64gb memory. I can max out my machine with statistical analysis for scientific papers and also max out the chip when using ai denoise in lightroom. for your use all apple silicon chips should do well. even m1 is a significant performance boost over your current machine. But go for 16 gb of memory (at least). Of corse the newer chips would be performing better in video editing but as far as i know even the base m2 has a hardware video encoder/decoder (not sure if the m1 base chip has one too). so the m2 should do ok in light video editing. the m3pro definitely is a great chip. it is more efficiency oriented with 6 performance and 6 efficiency cores. The m2pro had 8 performance and 4 efficiency cores. so the cpu performance of the pro chips didnt greatly improve from m2pro to m3pro but the new architecture (3nm) lets the m3pro have about the same performance with less cores and be much more efficient with the new (3nm) node and more efficiency cores it also has better power in low power mode than the m2pro.
Hi, i just need to edit my Go Pro and Dji 4K videos quickly and efficiently, so which one do you suggest i should go with? Would 8 cpu 10 gpu will be enough? Thanks
The only thing I like to mention is for my fellow AI and ML colleges the M series are good but they are a little bit pain when you want to run related tasks since the libraries are not there yet to make use of arm GPU idk maybe thats the thing in my case eventhough I am really happy with my m1 pro 16 inch macbook sometimes I wish I got a windows based laptop since it is easier to work with realted libraries like pytorch or tensor to use GPU
Well i can max out my cpu and gpu on my m3max (40gpu core model) 64gb memory when doing statistical analysis for scientific papers but also when doing photo editing in lightroom and using ai denoise. so it is not only for super professionals but also for entusiast photographers. (video editing might be different as there the dedicated encoders work miracles also on lower end chips)
Exactly... i wonder why Arthur hadn't made any comment!
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exactly. I saw a video where someone was exporting 4k videos on a m1max and m3max and the time difference was less than 5 seconds. That's why I bought a M1 Max
@ well video exporting is handled by the media engine. So all the work is done by the hardware video encoders/decoders. that is why there isn't a big difference in video exporting. but for other tasks that rely on the cpu and/or the gpu there is a large difference
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for me not one that would justify paying the extra 2 grand @@Superbus753
I was looking forward for M1 Pro 10-core/16-core GPU version for better performance from entry point M2 and M3 pro, but slightly less expensive than both of those. Nice comparison, much needed for someone buying a laptop in 2024.
Is it me or is anyone seeing a problem with getting a MacBook pro with all the bells and whistles but then seeing the vision pro for thousands of dollars cheaper?? Is it me or is anyone seeing this option. Just a thought
I wish they did an Ultra chip on a laptop. I know I am in the 0.1% of use cases here, but I would really appreciate more power than the M3 Max in my workflow in a portable device.
Same here! My workload is heavily CPU dependent. Right now I have a 7950X, but looking at benchmarks even the M3 Max is far from it when it comes to multi core scores. M2 Ultra or M3 Ultra would be great
Apple is making M series fast and faster display in second. It Apple development trend. It doesn't matter where it goes. It depend on what your need in your job require in speed. What matter is the price to pay for your job can afford. It a decision to consider what is what for.
⚡M2 is not just slightly better than m1. Its cache design improved a lot. I have seem it tested by compiling smaller project like a Firefox android app, and it is faster than m1 PRO. Yes, faster than m1 pro not just slightly better than m1. Like a company, a well organized one can be more productive, when the workflow is improved, the additional workers are not proportional to the increased in productivity, although it does not apply to every type of workload. And a lot of people say m2 is even more power hungry than m1, which is true but only under extreme load. In real life, even heavy loads have light tasks in between, and for many people, under medium to light load, m2 consumes quite a bit less power than m1. So I wouldn't say m2 is barely better than m1.
Just buy whichever MacBook Pro (M1/M2/M3 pro) that you can best afford. It's such a good choice, but ensure ram is at least 16GB, anything less is no bueno (regardless of what others say)
@@MonsieurGuy I have an early 2015 MacBook pro with intel and wanna get the MacBook Pro m3 pro. I do a lot of web browsing for work using a lot of chrome extensions. Is M1 or M2 enough for this work load? It’s not heavy work like editing and stuff like that but I would eventually like to start editing my own videos and stuff
@@MonsieurGuy totally agree 16gb is absolute minimum. (else you also risk premature death of the ssd wich means a dead mac as it is soldered on and cant be easily replaced)
![How much RAM do you ACTUALLY need in your M3 Macbook? [2024]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9A3pp0qXpjw/mqdefault.jpg)
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It should be illegal to offer 8 GB of RAM for a "Pro" laptop in 2024.
Me at 4GB of rAM: Really? 8GB is luxury
@@ltecherofficalme at 4GB too , it's the work flow count, type a line hit the enter key than I go to make coffee and open the phone replying messages 😂
Then stop buying them.
That's true bro 😢
I bought the MacBook Air M1, and it's the best decision I've ever made. As a web developer, everything just works flawlessly.
As a simulation engineer, I couldn't agree more. I do most of the heavy computations on a cluster so the lightweight and quiet MBA M1 with amazing battery life is just perfect.
Just the Air, crazy my Mac Pro 2020 8Gb Ram Core i5 since I bought it, becomes slow and the fan is loud when i open many tabs and browsers at the same time. Is it normal? Or need a better ram?
@@cryptwood your problem is a summary of why you should buy the Apple silicon MacBook instead of the Intel one
@@rezhaadriantanuharja3389 never know this even exists 🤦♂️ thanks man. Now I'll be aware of that, I don't know why they didn't mentioned those choices when I was buying it.
@@cryptwood Maybe the ssd have degraded thus the cpu starts overloading just by retrieving the data, I recommend checking the ssd health
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M3 also had 8 and 10 GPU variants, the 8GPU cores version can be found in base iMac.
Hi Arthur, can you help me with this decision?
Yesterday I bought two MacBook Pro models:
1. MacBook Pro (14-inch) - Apple M2 Pro chip with 12-core CPU and 19-core GPU, 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM (2023) - $1850
2. MacBook Pro (14-inch) - Apple M2 Pro chip with 10-core CPU and 16-core GPU, 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM (2023) - $1350
I also have a question:
Which one should I keep and which one should I return? (Which one is more valuable?)"
The difference is 500$ is it worth it!
My 2 cents - what would you use this for?
If the work load is super heavy then those extra cores would come handy.
I think you got a good one for 1350.
For my workflows coding included and testing programs with bunch of chrome and safari tabs, i would keep the 1350$ model.
I would just buy external ssd for my read and writes.
If you haven’t bought one yet, I may suggest the M1 Max also to stir up the pot, you could get a 10-32 cores w/ 1tb of storage and 32gb of ram for $1897 from back market.
Plus there are also other options of the M1 Max with 10-24core for the 1500 range, just a thought tho
Oh and on top of that it’s the 16 inch option
Ok but what the M1 Max with 10-core cpu and 32-core gpu?
I want to get my first Mac and I am interested in M2 Pro 14” 16Gb and 512Gb SSD, the base model, but I’ve been reading that as it’s only a ssd block (not 256-256) the speed and data transmission is not like it should be and goes slow in some cases. That is true at the level that it bothers or there is lag if you have several tabs open in Safari, streaming app,... editing photos just time to time. I don't want to spend that money and then find something that I didn't want. Whoever has it, could you help me? What is the experience like on a day-to-day basis? Thank you
From my understanding the uses you described rely on ram not ssd speed. I think ssd speed is more for file transfers and stuff like that.
I need more RAM. I don't need more CPU power, base M1 is more than enough for the most tasks I do.
Agreed. My wife can compile a large code base with the M1 Pro.
RAM upgrades or lower prices on increasing RAM at initial purchase are far more valuable.
What do you use it for?
I can tell you without even watching this video that if my Mac was running the iPad A12X that would be plenty of CPU for me. It doesn’t take too much to run stuff in the terminal, do what I need to on the web, make spreadsheets and Pages docs and occasionally make video. Currently have an M1 & M2 Mac. The biggest thing is Ram. 16 GB minimum If I don’t want to pay close attention to usage like on my M2 Air.
My problem is I like to have large internal storage and once you start adding that the processors or ram just become similarly priced or for 200 more you can bump to next upgrade e
Thats the point.
Whats the monitor/TV at 6:15 used by MKBHD ?? Any idea guys??
Looking for advice, as a semi-professional creative wanting to future proof my laptop but not break the bank. Using ON1RAW photo & adobe Premiere Pro/Davinci Resolve, indesign, Lightroom.
Should I go for Macbook Pro, 14 inch:
M3 Pro chip with 18GB RAM, -11 core CPU-14 core GPU (€2300, new. pushing my budget...)
M2 Pro chip, 16GB RAM, 10C-CPU 16C-GPU (€2049, apple certified refurbished)
M1 Pro chip with 32GB RAM, 10 cores. (second hand from an individual with only 237 cycle counts on the battery, 89% battery health) for €1775
I presented a large PDF file through MS Teams on a MacBook Air M2 with 8 GB of memory to a customer. In the middle of a presentation, I got an error (like memory overflow), and the thing came crashing into my preso, and I almost lost that customer. The next day, I ordered a MacBook Pro Max from Amazon with 36 GB of memory. I didn't call the max configuration because it had a 200-dollar discount on this configuration and didn't give me the option to upgrade. I don't know if I will use all that power, but it is here if needed.😊
Unfortunately the chipsets are powerful, but 8GB ram really isn't gonna be long lasting. 16GB is the minimum for longevity, it's a crime how 8GB is still the base
@@MonsieurGuy 8 GB in 2024 is criminal. The world evolves, and Apple continues with this insane business proposition: how much will it cost to have 16 GB as a minimum? It's not much for them, but they prefer to continue doing it, as most customers don't come online to expose their frustration with 8 GB.
What's the unified memory?
I am thinking about getting a mac coming from pc. I do a lot of virtualization labs on my current windows pc. I don't edit videos that much only for family trips. I just do alot of Sys admin type stuff. What do you thikn the best chip is.
Your review is really awesome!
I have an early 2015 MacBook pro with intel and wanna get the MacBook Pro m3 pro. I do a lot of web browsing for work using a lot of chrome extensions. Is M1 or M2 enough for this work load? It’s not heavy work like editing and stuff like that but I would eventually like to start editing my own videos and stuff
I upgraded from my 2015 15" maxed out macbook pro to a 16" m3max (40 core gpu) with 64gb memory. I can max out my machine with statistical analysis for scientific papers and also max out the chip when using ai denoise in lightroom. for your use all apple silicon chips should do well. even m1 is a significant performance boost over your current machine. But go for 16 gb of memory (at least). Of corse the newer chips would be performing better in video editing but as far as i know even the base m2 has a hardware video encoder/decoder (not sure if the m1 base chip has one too). so the m2 should do ok in light video editing. the m3pro definitely is a great chip. it is more efficiency oriented with 6 performance and 6 efficiency cores. The m2pro had 8 performance and 4 efficiency cores. so the cpu performance of the pro chips didnt greatly improve from m2pro to m3pro but the new architecture (3nm) lets the m3pro have about the same performance with less cores and be much more efficient with the new (3nm) node and more efficiency cores it also has better power in low power mode than the m2pro.
@@Superbus753 awesome thanks for the reply!
My brother had the same model 2015 mbp as you and he opted for the base m3 pro mbp and he’s very happy.
Which one is best for an audio engineer/Artist/beat maker(protools & FL21)
Hi, i just need to edit my Go Pro and Dji 4K videos quickly and efficiently, so which one do you suggest i should go with? Would 8 cpu 10 gpu will be enough? Thanks
Good comparison!!! best I've seen thus far.
The clinically insane part had me rolling 😂 Great video, and thank you.
The only thing I like to mention is for my fellow AI and ML colleges the M series are good but they are a little bit pain when you want to run related tasks since the libraries are not there yet to make use of arm GPU idk maybe thats the thing in my case eventhough I am really happy with my m1 pro 16 inch macbook sometimes I wish I got a windows based laptop since it is easier to work with realted libraries like pytorch or tensor to use GPU
Well i can max out my cpu and gpu on my m3max (40gpu core model) 64gb memory when doing statistical analysis for scientific papers but also when doing photo editing in lightroom and using ai denoise. so it is not only for super professionals but also for entusiast photographers. (video editing might be different as there the dedicated encoders work miracles also on lower end chips)
what about m1 max?
Exactly... i wonder why Arthur hadn't made any comment!
exactly. I saw a video where someone was exporting 4k videos on a m1max and m3max and the time difference was less than 5 seconds. That's why I bought a M1 Max
@roencaOnline very interesting info, id like to have a look at that video if you don't mind posting the link :-)
@ well video exporting is handled by the media engine. So all the work is done by the hardware video encoders/decoders. that is why there isn't a big difference in video exporting. but for other tasks that rely on the cpu and/or the gpu there is a large difference
for me not one that would justify paying the extra 2 grand @@Superbus753
I was looking forward for M1 Pro 10-core/16-core GPU version for better performance from entry point M2 and M3 pro, but slightly less expensive than both of those. Nice comparison, much needed for someone buying a laptop in 2024.
Is it me or is anyone seeing a problem with getting a MacBook pro with all the bells and whistles but then seeing the vision pro for thousands of dollars cheaper?? Is it me or is anyone seeing this option. Just a thought
I wish they did an Ultra chip on a laptop. I know I am in the 0.1% of use cases here, but I would really appreciate more power than the M3 Max in my workflow in a portable device.
Same here! My workload is heavily CPU dependent. Right now I have a 7950X, but looking at benchmarks even the M3 Max is far from it when it comes to multi core scores. M2 Ultra or M3 Ultra would be great
Awesome video, but it looks like it's time for an aspirin! Great video but now I need a aspirin
mine is m1 pro 16 gpu 16 cpu beats everything since windws xp
Think I’ll just get a 16in M1 Pro 16gb ram, 1tb on amazon for $1300
i use my m1 air for everything including HEAVY gaming so i dont know what u fucking mean by oCcAsIoAnal dOcUmEnT tYpInG.wtf.this guy is high.
Apple is making M series fast and faster display in second. It Apple development trend. It doesn't matter where it goes. It depend on what your need in your job require in speed. What matter is the price to pay for your job can afford. It a decision to consider what is what for.
90% of people don't need more than the M1 Pro
⚡M2 is not just slightly better than m1. Its cache design improved a lot. I have seem it tested by compiling smaller project like a Firefox android app, and it is faster than m1 PRO. Yes, faster than m1 pro not just slightly better than m1. Like a company, a well organized one can be more productive, when the workflow is improved, the additional workers are not proportional to the increased in productivity, although it does not apply to every type of workload. And a lot of people say m2 is even more power hungry than m1, which is true but only under extreme load. In real life, even heavy loads have light tasks in between, and for many people, under medium to light load, m2 consumes quite a bit less power than m1. So I wouldn't say m2 is barely better than m1.
iPad Pro 11 m2 💚💛❤️
I'll suggest the most valuable upgrade Apple could ever offer.... replaceable batteries 🔋 😏
I have a 2014 laptop with no graphics card and having the m1 would be a huge upgrade. you saying the M1 is for basic tasks.....😂😂
A 2014 machine is fine for Puppy Linux. 😜
Just buy whichever MacBook Pro (M1/M2/M3 pro) that you can best afford. It's such a good choice, but ensure ram is at least 16GB, anything less is no bueno (regardless of what others say)
@@MonsieurGuy I have an early 2015 MacBook pro with intel and wanna get the MacBook Pro m3 pro. I do a lot of web browsing for work using a lot of chrome extensions. Is M1 or M2 enough for this work load? It’s not heavy work like editing and stuff like that but I would eventually like to start editing my own videos and stuff
@@MonsieurGuy totally agree 16gb is absolute minimum. (else you also risk premature death of the ssd wich means a dead mac as it is soldered on and cant be easily replaced)
Title is Macbook PRO and most of review is Macbook Air... hm
First comment? Yeah ❤
Take love from Bangladesh brother...
entry level 1300 dollar lol. america is a fucked up place bruh