I feel that 2 strokes are more light, nimble and loose where 4 strokes are tight and heavy but very powerful. A 2 stroke is more fun on a trail for me because it feels free. 4 strokes have engine braking which some people prefer, but doesn't allow you to coast as much and requires partial throttle most of the time. Then most of all, the smell and sound of a 2 stroke is amazing with that big shiny pipe. 4 strokes though, they have presence with a big motor filling the frame and a large slip on pipe. Still, at the end of the day its all about personal preference.
2 strokes are more forgiving when running them over any sort of jump where I find if I'm not perfect with the throttle running a thumper I tend to nose dive.... A lot!!
It's about personal preference, but that's also about maintenance. I'm not afraid of valves, timing and all that stuff. I've figured this out a long time ago. But I often feel chained to my bike with all the maintenance. Why should I spend an hour checking valve clearance when there is a system which doesn't require checking and adjusting valves at all? Why should I spend my time changing oil that often when there is a system where the engine always works on fresh oil? Why should getting to the spark plug be that complex when there is a system where it's within your arm reach? Four strokes are the way to go for serious competition, but for us, hobby riders who don't have a mechanic fixing stuff for them, 2-stroke is the way to go.
@@mansfd I'm glad that someone else experiences that I've just switched to a 450 and unless I'm hard on the gas it nosedives whereas with the 2 banger if I'm tired i can coast and still send it
@@mansfd i used to have a 300exc before (from Aus) incredibly perfect for single trail and hills where i used to live but now i live in the north west of aus essentially desert riding so I got the 450. Just gotta get used to it haha
Right on, Kyle! Having one ( or more!) of each is the best. Figure out what kind of terrain you like best and get the appropriate bike. Select the best tool for the job. For rough country the 2 stroke rules. Look at what the world’s best extreme enduro riders choose. For bigger loops, more open terrain, and faster speeds the 4 strokes rule because of more high speed stability and much longer fuel range. My favorite combo is a 300 2 stroke and a 500 4 stroke. Pretty much covers anything I want to ride. Thanks for sharing your informed opinions and beautiful riding venues. Cheers!
4-stroke for the wide open rides and for the times you need a plate to slab it to the next trail head. Two-strokes for those tight technical trails in the woods. You truly need one of each in order to have a tool for all jobs.
I Absolutely agree 100% , And thats coming from a two and four stroke owner, I have always defined them as a wild bronco (2 smoke) and an elephant (4 stroke)
Love your videos Kyle. Your style of presenting is great. Your perspective is upbeat and fun to listen to. Being a long time dirt bike rider (35 years worth) I love both. I can ride anything with 2 wheels and a motor and have fun. It is my opinion the 4T's excel in the faster terrain, sand, and moto tracks. The 2T's are better in tight twisties and knarly single track (like what you seem to ride the most). Years ago I had a 1998 KTM 380exc. It was great for most any terrain but was the best when I needed to do slow trail work. 4T's flame out easier, overheat easier, feel bigger, and wear you out sooner. However, they bring a big grin to my face when I roll deep into the throttle in open terrain. I can't get enough of the high revs. For that reason I tilt towards the big 4T's. I still run a 2008 KTM 505xcf. Maybe at some time in the future I can buy one of those $9k-$10k tpi 2T's if the wife will let me!! Keep the awesome vids coming! P.S. Most new riders just need to buy an old good condition Honda XR250 ride it for one full season and then go buy a newer 4T or 2T. Cracks me up when I see newer riders on some tight steep rocky single track trail trying to ride a newer 450 /250 4T motorcross bike wondering what is going on!
You said it perfectly at the beginning . Your comparing DIRT BIKES and the key word is FUN ! It doesn't matter which one you prefer I dare you to NOT have FUN on either one ! Any bike you ride should and will put a smile ear to ear on ya face and that's what matters !!!
Exactly, when riding a 4 stroke it makes me feel like I am in the "BORED" room! 4 strokes are for when you want predictable, consistent, smooth riding. 2 strokes are for when you want exciting, adrenaline rushing OMG hold on for dear life let's do this till I run out of gas power! I have also ridden both quite a bit and I agree you need one of each to be really happy.
I live in Colorado and ride the mountains. The 2 stroke is more fun for that type of riding cause it's lighter and can lug better down low but don't say a 250 2stroke will pull your arms off more than a 4stroke. I have a 2012 kx450f that I've ridden on the track and mountains and its too much power for most mountain rides where the 2stroke is lighter and quick but not quite as much power. You have to stay in the powerband on the 2stroke to be near what the 4stroke is tractoring to the ground all the time where if you don't modulate the throttle on a 4stroke it'll kick your ass
When I had my 250 2015 Beta I tried KTM 450 from 2009. It was bullshit compared to 2 stroke. My 2 stroke was really snappy. However since 2012 with EFI KTM's its totally different story. I find 4 stroke faster so far and much better to ride with. I did a lap with KTM 2020 350 4T and then a lap with Beta 300 2 stroke... 4T all the way. Can't tell about tight single tracks.. I really can't find the excitement adrenaline rush in 2 stroke compared to 4 stroke. I want to ride smooth and stable and not to make mistakes. Yeah the noise and torque is nice but it won't make you ride better if it constantly skids around and makes it hard to ride. But thats what I feel like when I ride. I do not have any long experience with 4 stroke yet. Just test rides so far.
I was just having a bit of fun with my reply, like I said I have ridden both. I just prefer 2 strokes but when it is time to rebuild a motor the 2 strokes are less expensive. It really comes down to whatever you are used to riding and if you like it. Who cares what someone else says. Get out and have fun. 2 vs 4 will never be settled in my opinion.
@@bigblock428 no your right...2strokes are fun and light while my 4stroke is heavier and you can be lazy on it but you open it up and watch out it's holy crap fast. I have a 99 kx250, 03 yz250 and a 18 GasGas xc250 along with my kx450. Obviously I lean towards 2strokes especially when it comes to rebuilds too...gotta have options!
2 stroke for the gnar. 4 stroke for a hard dual sport. For me It’s a 500 exc for dual sport and a kdx 200 for gnar. I’m excited for this beta 200 review
Remember Scotty on Star Trek screaming "use the right tool for the right job!"? That... There's something to be said for big-bore 4-stroke racing and the wonder that is engine braking combined with extremely controllable throttle, and then there's lugging a gear higher when needed. Dealing with fast transitions from speed to rutted turns is its true calling. 4-strokes also allows for throttle based pitch control while airborne. Then there's the lightness of a 2-stroke in hard enduro to be able to coax that light bike through repositioning enroute. The 2-stroke feels like you can blast over an obstacle without as much mass to control, it just feels that way. Then you ping the rev-limiter on a 450MX bike down the straightaway and start to lean while chopping the throttle and the braking draws that rear out on that flat-track turn while the inside leg outriggers as you skid control squeezing the outside leg. Feels like a skidding a super downhill skidding turn. You need MX suspension for MX tracks, it's just that way. I have to explain why I have 3 bikes, because unfortunately I can't race and train everything on the one. It'd make life less complicated if I could.
that clip at the end. That was shortly after the top end rebuild where the tolerances weren't right and the engine seized right after you let off wasn't it?? :)
I feel like a 4 makes you be a better rider, getting use to the weight of the bike the clutch the power, a 2 you have that gigantic pipe in the front getting smashed every time you lay it down on that side, a 4 you're going to go further on a tank of gas less engine maintenance and it doesn't really cost that much to rebuild as often as you have to do it which depending on how you ride and take care of bike maybe once the whole time you own the bike, of course this is my opinion and I ride a 4 stroke, 2019 yz250fx
I agree 100%, I own two four strokes and one two stroke and I use them for different types of riding; however, my KX250 is the one that reminds me I'm still alive! That's why I like two strokes the most.
I think what your saying is... for the terrain you personally ride and have fun in the 2 stroke fits the bill like most of us off road riders. The 4 stroke is a bit gurthy and extra for tight single track. It has its purpose in flat out open 5th gear terrain, high elevation the big bike suits terrain that needs more power. Here in Colorado when I’m up at 11,000 plus feet I wish I had a tuned up 450 4 stroke because of the power loss and change in elevation (no jetting) in the long run you should own both because you can ride whatever 1 accordingly
So funny. A was a four-stroker and now I ride a 300 2t... The truth is that I sometimes miss my 4t and I sometimes don't. So if I could afford it, I'd have both.
Dear Kyle, i have to admit that I like your vids. Most worthy! I agree with all that you say. We all know that most bikes nowadays are worthy and capable but for me it's about longetivity and reliability. Because i own a 2007 ktm 450exc(which I adore) with 110.000kms on the clock and 2,144hrs with minor repairs. 2ts today have become complicated so someone who's considering on a 2t should think well ,concerning on maintenance!
Two strokes are no more complicated than before really, I mean there is electric start, not that complicated, and fuel injection on select models. Really when you get into fuel Injection is not overly complicate either, and can make owning a two stroke easier for those people who don't like tuning a carb. And with offering from lectron, even carbureted bikes can go with little to no tuning. I can still do a top end rebuild on a modern two stroke easily in my garage with little to no experience and basic knowledge of how the engine works. Just the way I look at it though.
@@jakethelittlesnake6258 Just skip the fuel injection models. The only reason they've appeared is Euro 4 regulation, which is non-sense for motorcycles anyhow, let alone enduro motorcycles. TPI is not beneficial for the rider and no way is it beneficial for the planet.
@@jakethelittlesnake6258 Maybe while it works, yes. But if it breaks down I've no idea what to do with it. I think TPI kills the whole idea of a 2-stroke, like being repairable by an average Joe on his lap. It's no longer the case.
@@cheetah694 But what Im saying, unless you have a computer problem, fuel injection is not that hard to work on, its honestly really simple. I will agree adding more computers to something will complicate it but as far as being able to work on the anything else, having fuel injection isnt gonna make anything to much harder. and it still is a simple two stoke, just instead of a carb there is injectors there.
Great analogy of the differences that I agree with wholeheartedly. I got 2 four strokes in the garage (Yamaha 250 & Beta 450) and 2 two strokes (Beta 300 & TE250i) Life’s short, gotta run with both styles of Bikes for riding in different areas. Great Video!!
I love them both. 4 strokes are smooth and have good power but are harder to control and keep momentum in the tight stuff. The engine braking makes woods riding much more intensive with braking and clutching and shifting. The 2 stroke is quicker in the tight stuff and the front end feels lighter and is easier to loft over logs and rocks. That said it's all preference, though I feel more people ride 4 strokes because there's more of them on the market and they would actually be faster on a 2 stroke. Yes, it does come down to skill though because your top gncc riders are blasting away and hauling ass on 4 strokes. If your a straight enduro guy you can't beat a 2 stroke for its luggability and flickability. If you're a trail rider and speed in all areas doesn't matter it's sort of a toss up to me. Motocross riding the 4 stroke is clearly more stable and has more tractable power.
I agree, the correct tool for the job!! I own fourteen two strokes, and ONE four stroke, KLX-450-R the four strokesare heavier, and there nothing like the older ones, like XR's
Would you consider selling one of your 2 strokes. I’ve been saving for years and just can’t find one in my price range. I want a 125 that will last me a few years at least that I don’t have to worry about tearing up 😂. But I don’t want to spend a whole lot. Anyway if you would consider it, please comment
...got both, but only ride the gg 300 2T lately. 1. It feels lighter and more manageable. 2. The small bore provides good traction, but makes plenty of power when I need it. ...loving it!!! 😍
I have a 2015 Husky FE350 and just picked up a 2020 Beta 200rr. I already have this internal struggle going on about which one to ride. Other people don't seem to get it. It's about picking the right tool for the job. I don't throw out my Crescent wrench because I got a shiny new pair of vise grips
I’ve never ridden a two stroke I like the idea of something lighter then I currently have I enjoy the features of the four stroke on 4 to 5 day overnight trips
I race a 4 stroke on the track, I find it better on the track, but I also own a ktm 250 2 stroke which I prefer much more in the trails such good fun in the trails!!!
I am about to turn 40 but Man I know the feeling. I can’t stop riding my 96 RM 250. I could definitely go out and buy another bike. But it’s still one of the sweetest bikes I have. now don’t get me wrong I’ve got a lot of money put in it but man I love it. I’ve had it for almost 13 years now. I have a 98 CR 500 and it’s fixed up really nice but I almost never ride it.
Not all of that is true. 2 strokes have less moving parts and tend to not need very much maintaining. Also tend to last longer. Also one is not easier than the other. A 125 2 stroke is the same size and power comparison to a 250 4 stroke. But 2 strokes are lighter and easier to maneuver and have far faster acceleration
From the day as a kid I through a leg over my YZ80 and felt that powerband, I knew 2 strokes were for me. Ride an 01 CR250 today no matter the terrain, and I wouldnt have it any other way.
I just picked up a CRF450l and I love that bike but eventually I want a 250 two stroke bike as well. I'm just to the point where I want both vs trying to figure out which one is the best because neither one is the best at everything
It’s simple... if you race get a 2 stroke but if your just in ur back yard having fun then get a 4 stroke. Personally I prefer 4 stoke. Does not have the feeling I might die.
Two strokes are easier to ride in tight stuff at least the smaller displacement bikes are . A 450 is an open bike just like a 500 two stroke is and they are harder to ride in tight stuff as well. In low traction situations dry hardpack flat corners i prefer the 4 stroke. Sand and loam the two stroke gets on top of way better 4 strokes plow in soft stuff.
Biggest thing people need to understand is buyers in market looking for 6/7 year old bikes ... If I was to buy new I'd go 4 stroke simply because the new technology in them... 6/7 year old market ( which I'm in) wouldn't touch a 4 stroke
I'm soo stuck between getting a ktm 150sx or a 250 four stroke. 65% of my riding will be motocross tracks and the other 35% will be offroad/trails. I had yz85 when I was 14 years old and loved it (22 now, took a 7 year break from riding) so i have the basics down but I can't decide what I want. From what I hear, 4 strokes are smoother, get traction better, easier to control, and are more controllable when you hit jumps but the maintenance is extremely expensive (but not as frequent as a 2 stroke) and they are a good bit heavier A 150sx would be much lighter and really fun for tearing around and gets up to speed but isn't gonna have that smooth delivery and traction a 4 stroke can provide. And although they require maintenance more frequently it is much cheaper to get them serviced. I know how to work on bikes to an extent (adjustments, installing plastics, bars, accessories etc.), but engine work is something I wouldn't trust myself with and I would take it somewhere to get it tuned up and I know the price of labor on a 4 stroke when it comes to top/bottom end rebuilds and valve adjustments can be pretty high. If I'm wrong on anything in my comment please correct me and let me know what you think by helping this indecisive internet stranger pick out a bike once and for all. I also wanna say thank you to this channel. I was gonna buy merch off amazon but screw that. I will definitely buy my strap downs, socks, shirts and whatever other accessories I need from you because you have given me and others amazing information. Thank you!
The tighter, slower and more technical 2t, fast ,flowy, mx , dual sport 4t every time. Rode the newest 4t I have ever ridden, 17 ktm 350 excw- and it was pretty amazing, turns and felt as light as my 05 300 xcw and power was everywhere in the rpm range. Very impressive date, but I dont want to be stuck with the bill come rebuild or repair time on that motor.
It won't be that more expensive than 2 stroke. In a long run they will both go for same price range... maybe little more for 4T. 2 stroke has come long way and can go almost for same length with 1 piston as 4 stroke. But the fuel usage, oil, combined with less hours til maintenance it will be in same price category. Constant Valve clearence adjusting is a myth and most won't even need adjusting til piston change. Ride what you like and don't worry about rebuilds... Its an expensive hobby anyway.
2T-4T all goes down to personal preference, i could happily enjoy equally as much, the raw power of the 2T feels amazing, but the torque of a 4T and that mean BRAAP! makes me feel godlike, so it is personal preference really
Im Old School, 59..Heros , Roger Decoster Brad Lackey, Tony Dee later Marty Smith. I thought Bob Hannah was a punk...; )... Raced my Brand New 1975 RM250 when I was 15, Its the smell and sound of the two stroke, In my day It was the only ride, Nowadays the stupid fart sound of the 4..Two strokes rule and awaken the senses of what the radical, sick, and twisted minds of Dirt Riders create and express when they are riding.. the power band of the 2 becomes a part of you..I still ride a KX500 but this body cant do it justice anymore...I have fun and thats the bottom line I know the advantages of the big 4s but I just love the smells and sound of my 2... just sayin
I have a CRF 150r right now and it’s my first bike. I’m 14, 5ft 8 inches and 125 pounds and need a bigger bike but i don’t know if I should get a 125 2 stroke or 250 4 stroke. I’m a ok rider but not a great rider . I ride track mostly and I don’t know what would be good for me. It would really help to get your opinion! Thanks!
Hey Kyle Brotherson PLEASE READ I really like you as a person because you are an inspiration to me and I spend all my time watching your videos because you put a lot of effort into making them I really think that you are a awesome guy. All I want is to have a ktm xc 250 or husky te300i but my mother would never let me ride a motorbike but when I am on my mountain bike I always emagen that it is a ktm xc 250 2stroke screaming down the road I have always liked motorbikes since little and still do especially dirt bikes and adventure bikes. just wanted to let you know that you are doing a great job with making your videos and rideing KEEP IT UP!!! #GREAT CONTENT.
Lol, I'm a 4 stroke guy, but I can't pull off that suit thang. I have a 300ktm buddy I ride single track with, every now and again I get to ride his 300, I love it(almost a perfect tool), but he doesn't like a 350, 450 or 500 on single track, so we dont switch often enough In a better world for me, I need a 200lb 300xc(get busy ktm) for local single track, and my buddy needs a fe350 plated so we can ride the T1 tour of Idaho together! 😁😁😁
I'm a old school 2-stroke guy going back to the 1980s. I had a few 4-stroke bikes and a ATV for awhile and never really cared for them. Something about a Yamaha YZ 2-stroke that gets the blood pumping. If it wasn't for the EPA and dogooders 4-stroke dirt/motocross bikes wouldn't even exist. In 1998 the AMA started allowing 450cc 4-stroke bikes to compete against 250cc 2-stroke bikes. That should tell you something right there. On average a 2-stroke bike makes at least 30% more power of the same displacement 4-stroke bike. I can attest first hand to that when my 1980 Yamaha YZ80 "bumblebee" 80cc 2-stroke would lay the smack down on larger displacement 100cc and 125cc 4-stroke enduro or "trail bikes with ease. I haven't had a bike of any kind since 2008 when I sold my Harley road bike. I have been very temped and thinking about getting a newer 2-stroke Yamaha YZ-125 or a KTM 125 just to play around with and rip around on. I want a explosive power band that has instant power. When riding off-road and on dirt the last thing you want is a heavy and boggy 4-stroke dirt bike. Also the 2-strokes are far simpler with less parts and are both a lot easier and cheaper to fix than their 4-stroke equivalents.
There's really no way you can call modern 4 strokes boggy or heavy, the KTM 450s are making over 60 horsepower and weigh right around 220 pounds. That's 15 more horsepower, a wider powerband, a higher redline, a higher top speed and about the same weight as any modern 250 two stroke. People can try to babble about how I have twice the displacement of their 250 but it's hard to talk when they're eating my roost. Unless you get your hands on a 500 two stroke you'll never keep up with the 450s on any stock 2 stroke bike. Hell, the 450s even give the 500s a run for their money in drag races. Don't believe me just watch a few videos like "CR500 vs 450" or something like that.
@@JohnDoeEagle1 Just look up CR500 vs KTM450. Even with a 50cc advantage the 2 stroke loses from start to finish to the 4 stroke. So much for being sluggish and heavy. My math is fine, better than your ability admit being wrong.
@@harrypeterson9287 50cc bigger? It's twice the size.....250cc bigger. I've rode my Cousin's late 90's Kawasaki KX-250 2-stroke before too so you aren't going to BS me. It was insanely fast and could pull the front wheel on acceleration very easily without even trying. Also in AMA in 1998 they legalized 250cc 2-strokes to compete against 450cc 4-strokes. That I know for sure and remember.
The cost of maintenance and rebuilds alone makes 2 strokes the better choice. The engine and handling dynamics are just the cherry! Do you still have a referral partnership with RM ATV? Just buying some parts and want to give you a shout out.
Love my 300 exc. I've riden both and I definitely prefer the 2 stroke! They are more fun to ride especially riding on the pipe 😩 something you just don't get from the 4 strokes. I really like the slow technical riding and the 4 strokes just don't do well at super slow speeds.
They require much more work to ride. Lots of shifting. I have raced and won championships on a KTM 150, but when I moved to a KTM 350, it was a game changer. I ride the 150 for fun and practice, but race the 350.
@@jfuqua72 I have had my best results and most fun on a KTM 150, I struggled on a 300 4t. I love small bores, wouldn't go back! To me shifting and revving is all part of the fun.
Just found your channel and love it and I'm right there with you but I'm older so it's now 4 stroke for me the energy you put into a 2 is what you get out it a more symbiot relationship clutch work throttle work oh so important but satisfying,dont get old 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍👍
I love riding my 2 stroke like the feeling more only problem i have is i mainly trail ride with my brother and dad and they both have 4 strokes so i can't ride as far as them because I run out of gas twice as fast
@@717Chris I'd personally go with whatever you guys are comfortable with. For the gas with a 2 stroke u can always buy an aftermarket gas tank to hold a few more gallons and get a lot more out if a single ride if that's an issue for you like it was me.
I mainly do hair scramble style riding, but sometimes do enduro and/or motocross. But I also want something that can comfortably ride to and from trails via street without using too much fuel. I basically want a regular dirt bike with the luxury of the street if need be (5-30 minutes max at a time on the street) without using too much fuel, not a dedicated street bike. I can’t decide between a wr250f or yz250x concerted to street
@@DirtBikeChannel haha going through old comments? quarantine must be taking its toll. I'm just busting balls but 14 years is a long time. Polish those old girls and tellem thanks.
I ride a 4 stroke but I wear earbuds and listen to 2 stroke sounds so I don’t feel bad about it 😂
haha
🤣🤣🤣
Braaaaaaap
Just get a two stroke lmao, they are cheaper
Come on lol
It's not what you ride, it's that you ride.
What kind of ktm is that your sitting on? I'm looking for the best ktm 2 stroke for trail riding... what do u recommend?
Blondes vs Brunettes, gotta ride em both to have a true appreciation.
No. Brunettes every time.
Damn good analogy
this ^
Don't forget those wild red heads from time to time as well
@@texlee1640 those are the electric bikes
Gotta have at least 1 of each - that's the secret
I wish I could lol
I want a 4 stroke for everyday easy riding and a 2 stroke for the harder or more intense rides. And run the guts out of it.
4 stroke: A good single malt scotch
2 stroke: Wild Turkey 101
Yep
I’ll take the 2 stroke and wild turkey
Nothing like a 2 stroke to remind your neighborhood you’re still alive. #2strokesforlife
Ahaha
To be fair, 4 strokes are louder
@@carter.coleman quite the opposite
@@purpteaa3223 no they are significantly louder, 2 strokes is just a more constant noise
@@purpteaa3223 and more high pitched
Just get a 3-stroke mod and have the best of both worlds.
Jackson Buck those are the best man!
Like a rotary powered dirt bike? Where can I get one
Wheels 4 life no. Just change the mapping on your ecu
Reeds and one valve head. I love mine! Run 250:1 fuel ratio. Pipe looks funny tho
Rotary motor
If your making the noise of the bike your riding with your mouth while you ride then you know your on the bike for you!
sooooooo true .millenian man
I feel that 2 strokes are more light, nimble and loose where 4 strokes are tight and heavy but very powerful. A 2 stroke is more fun on a trail for me because it feels free. 4 strokes have engine braking which some people prefer, but doesn't allow you to coast as much and requires partial throttle most of the time. Then most of all, the smell and sound of a 2 stroke is amazing with that big shiny pipe. 4 strokes though, they have presence with a big motor filling the frame and a large slip on pipe. Still, at the end of the day its all about personal preference.
2 strokes are more forgiving when running them over any sort of jump where I find if I'm not perfect with the throttle running a thumper I tend to nose dive.... A lot!!
It's about personal preference, but that's also about maintenance. I'm not afraid of valves, timing and all that stuff. I've figured this out a long time ago. But I often feel chained to my bike with all the maintenance. Why should I spend an hour checking valve clearance when there is a system which doesn't require checking and adjusting valves at all? Why should I spend my time changing oil that often when there is a system where the engine always works on fresh oil? Why should getting to the spark plug be that complex when there is a system where it's within your arm reach? Four strokes are the way to go for serious competition, but for us, hobby riders who don't have a mechanic fixing stuff for them, 2-stroke is the way to go.
@@mansfd I'm glad that someone else experiences that I've just switched to a 450 and unless I'm hard on the gas it nosedives whereas with the 2 banger if I'm tired i can coast and still send it
@@tcmx712 I'm on a 300 XC-W and I will never go back to a thumper!!! :)
@@mansfd i used to have a 300exc before (from Aus) incredibly perfect for single trail and hills where i used to live but now i live in the north west of aus essentially desert riding so I got the 450. Just gotta get used to it haha
The sound of the 2 stroke is HYPNOTIC! It screams FUN! Music to my ears.
yes
It does sound way better ...4 stroke sounds muffled and blah - to me anyway. Rin rin rin
The less strokes the closer the thing is to running on pure explosion, like a rocket the original one strokes engine
BbbRRRRRrrraaaaaappppp
Alex Gray I mean at least we aren’t paying £1,500 for a rebuild or more
Ah yes thee original single stroke engine my favorite
Right on, Kyle! Having one ( or more!) of each is the best. Figure out what kind of terrain you like best and get the appropriate bike. Select the best tool for the job. For rough country the 2 stroke rules. Look at what the world’s best extreme enduro riders choose. For bigger loops, more open terrain, and faster speeds the 4 strokes rule because of more high speed stability and much longer fuel range. My favorite combo is a 300 2 stroke and a 500 4 stroke. Pretty much covers anything I want to ride.
Thanks for sharing your informed opinions and beautiful riding venues. Cheers!
4-stroke for the wide open rides and for the times you need a plate to slab it to the next trail head. Two-strokes for those tight technical trails in the woods. You truly need one of each in order to have a tool for all jobs.
If i tell my wife that i want 2 stroke and 4 stroke, ill get 1 stroke .🤣
You should give your wife more strokes than that quick draw! Lol
Loooool
I ride both but I prefer the 2 stroke
@Mike T ?
I knew I was in the right place when he said "its a different type of tool"
4 strokes speak to my soul but I will have both one day...350 and a 300 husky's
I want a 125 2 stroke. But my problem is I just can’t afford a bikw
I Absolutely agree 100% , And thats coming from a two and four stroke owner, I have always defined them as a wild bronco (2 smoke) and an elephant (4 stroke)
Love your videos Kyle. Your style of presenting is great. Your perspective is upbeat and fun to listen to. Being a long time dirt bike rider (35 years worth) I love both. I can ride anything with 2 wheels and a motor and have fun. It is my opinion the 4T's excel in the faster terrain, sand, and moto tracks. The 2T's are better in tight twisties and knarly single track (like what you seem to ride the most). Years ago I had a 1998 KTM 380exc. It was great for most any terrain but was the best when I needed to do slow trail work. 4T's flame out easier, overheat easier, feel bigger, and wear you out sooner. However, they bring a big grin to my face when I roll deep into the throttle in open terrain. I can't get enough of the high revs. For that reason I tilt towards the big 4T's. I still run a 2008 KTM 505xcf. Maybe at some time in the future I can buy one of those $9k-$10k tpi 2T's if the wife will let me!! Keep the awesome vids coming!
P.S. Most new riders just need to buy an old good condition Honda XR250 ride it for one full season and then go buy a newer 4T or 2T. Cracks me up when I see newer riders on some tight steep rocky single track trail trying to ride a newer 450 /250 4T motorcross bike wondering what is going on!
4 stroke my way, but still like the 2 strokes cheaper to maintain and work on. But I can’t let go of my ktm. I’ll add a 2 smoker soon.
Need one of each in CA - 4T for Dez, 2T for mountains. Simple solution
I have a craving for the vintage 80s-90s 2 stroke enduros with square lights
All about personal preference really The best bike for you is the one you enjoy riding
Thank You So Much for finally settling my mind and finally giving me the the motivation to add a 2 stroke to my garage to keep my 4 stroke company. 😜
You said it perfectly at the beginning . Your comparing DIRT BIKES and the key word is FUN ! It doesn't matter which one you prefer I dare you to NOT have FUN on either one ! Any bike you ride should and will put a smile ear to ear on ya face and that's what matters !!!
You had to make a video about it? GOTTA be a 2 stroke! Raaaang tang tang tang - can't beat it. Just the pure rush of the sound of it is reason enough.
You are totally right. It's all personal preference. For me it's that moment when your 2-stroke hits the power band and just takes off.
This one just made me smile. No truer words were said than your bike speaks to your soul😁😁😁
It’s like golf, right club for the task at hand.
Golf course 4 my, now we're talking.
Dont mix golf into this
Exactly, when riding a 4 stroke it makes me feel like I am in the "BORED" room! 4 strokes are for when you want predictable, consistent, smooth riding. 2 strokes are for when you want exciting, adrenaline rushing OMG hold on for dear life let's do this till I run out of gas power! I have also ridden both quite a bit and I agree you need one of each to be really happy.
I live in Colorado and ride the mountains. The 2 stroke is more fun for that type of riding cause it's lighter and can lug better down low but don't say a 250 2stroke will pull your arms off more than a 4stroke. I have a 2012 kx450f that I've ridden on the track and mountains and its too much power for most mountain rides where the 2stroke is lighter and quick but not quite as much power. You have to stay in the powerband on the 2stroke to be near what the 4stroke is tractoring to the ground all the time where if you don't modulate the throttle on a 4stroke it'll kick your ass
When I had my 250 2015 Beta I tried KTM 450 from 2009. It was bullshit compared to 2 stroke. My 2 stroke was really snappy.
However since 2012 with EFI KTM's its totally different story. I find 4 stroke faster so far and much better to ride with. I did a lap with KTM 2020 350 4T and then a lap with Beta 300 2 stroke... 4T all the way. Can't tell about tight single tracks..
I really can't find the excitement adrenaline rush in 2 stroke compared to 4 stroke. I want to ride smooth and stable and not to make mistakes. Yeah the noise and torque is nice but it won't make you ride better if it constantly skids around and makes it hard to ride. But thats what I feel like when I ride. I do not have any long experience with 4 stroke yet. Just test rides so far.
I was just having a bit of fun with my reply, like I said I have ridden both. I just prefer 2 strokes but when it is time to rebuild a motor the 2 strokes are less expensive. It really comes down to whatever you are used to riding and if you like it. Who cares what someone else says. Get out and have fun. 2 vs 4 will never be settled in my opinion.
@@bigblock428 Yeah, just ride what you like and have fun.
@@bigblock428 no your right...2strokes are fun and light while my 4stroke is heavier and you can be lazy on it but you open it up and watch out it's holy crap fast. I have a 99 kx250, 03 yz250 and a 18 GasGas xc250 along with my kx450. Obviously I lean towards 2strokes especially when it comes to rebuilds too...gotta have options!
I find that long distance and travel is better with a 4 stroke but if you're riding on one track just having fun, 2 stroke all the way
2 stroke for the gnar. 4 stroke for a hard dual sport. For me It’s a 500 exc for dual sport and a kdx 200 for gnar. I’m excited for this beta 200 review
Remember Scotty on Star Trek screaming "use the right tool for the right job!"? That... There's something to be said for big-bore 4-stroke racing and the wonder that is engine braking combined with extremely controllable throttle, and then there's lugging a gear higher when needed. Dealing with fast transitions from speed to rutted turns is its true calling. 4-strokes also allows for throttle based pitch control while airborne. Then there's the lightness of a 2-stroke in hard enduro to be able to coax that light bike through repositioning enroute. The 2-stroke feels like you can blast over an obstacle without as much mass to control, it just feels that way. Then you ping the rev-limiter on a 450MX bike down the straightaway and start to lean while chopping the throttle and the braking draws that rear out on that flat-track turn while the inside leg outriggers as you skid control squeezing the outside leg. Feels like a skidding a super downhill skidding turn. You need MX suspension for MX tracks, it's just that way. I have to explain why I have 3 bikes, because unfortunately I can't race and train everything on the one. It'd make life less complicated if I could.
that clip at the end. That was shortly after the top end rebuild where the tolerances weren't right and the engine seized right after you let off wasn't it?? :)
Yes
It just comes down to the right tool for the job. Some jobs you want a sledge hammer, other times you need a scalpel.
I'm a 2 stroke guy maybe it's because I'm old... I just never warmed up to the 4 strokes... And they sound like tractors lol
I feel like a 4 makes you be a better rider, getting use to the weight of the bike the clutch the power, a 2 you have that gigantic pipe in the front getting smashed every time you lay it down on that side, a 4 you're going to go further on a tank of gas less engine maintenance and it doesn't really cost that much to rebuild as often as you have to do it which depending on how you ride and take care of bike maybe once the whole time you own the bike, of course this is my opinion and I ride a 4 stroke, 2019 yz250fx
I agree 100%, I own two four strokes and one two stroke and I use them for different types of riding; however, my KX250 is the one that reminds me I'm still alive! That's why I like two strokes the most.
I think what your saying is... for the terrain you personally ride and have fun in the 2 stroke fits the bill like most of us off road riders. The 4 stroke is a bit gurthy and extra for tight single track. It has its purpose in flat out open 5th gear terrain, high elevation the big bike suits terrain that needs more power. Here in Colorado when I’m up at 11,000 plus feet I wish I had a tuned up 450 4 stroke because of the power loss and change in elevation (no jetting) in the long run you should own both because you can ride whatever 1 accordingly
So funny. A was a four-stroker and now I ride a 300 2t... The truth is that I sometimes miss my 4t and I sometimes don't. So if I could afford it, I'd have both.
Dear Kyle, i have to admit that I like your vids. Most worthy!
I agree with all that you say. We all know that most bikes nowadays are worthy and capable but for me it's about longetivity and reliability.
Because i own a 2007 ktm 450exc(which I adore) with 110.000kms on the clock and 2,144hrs with minor repairs.
2ts today have become complicated so someone who's considering on a 2t should think well ,concerning on maintenance!
Two strokes are no more complicated than before really, I mean there is electric start, not that complicated, and fuel injection on select models. Really when you get into fuel Injection is not overly complicate either, and can make owning a two stroke easier for those people who don't like tuning a carb. And with offering from lectron, even carbureted bikes can go with little to no tuning. I can still do a top end rebuild on a modern two stroke easily in my garage with little to no experience and basic knowledge of how the engine works. Just the way I look at it though.
@@jakethelittlesnake6258 Just skip the fuel injection models. The only reason they've appeared is Euro 4 regulation, which is non-sense for motorcycles anyhow, let alone enduro motorcycles. TPI is not beneficial for the rider and no way is it beneficial for the planet.
@@cheetah694 yeah I agree, I was just pointing out the even fuel injection on a two stroke doesn't make them overly complicated.
@@jakethelittlesnake6258 Maybe while it works, yes. But if it breaks down I've no idea what to do with it. I think TPI kills the whole idea of a 2-stroke, like being repairable by an average Joe on his lap. It's no longer the case.
@@cheetah694 But what Im saying, unless you have a computer problem, fuel injection is not that hard to work on, its honestly really simple. I will agree adding more computers to something will complicate it but as far as being able to work on the anything else, having fuel injection isnt gonna make anything to much harder. and it still is a simple two stoke, just instead of a carb there is injectors there.
Great analogy of the differences that I agree with wholeheartedly. I got 2 four strokes in the garage (Yamaha 250 & Beta 450) and 2 two strokes (Beta 300 & TE250i) Life’s short, gotta run with both styles of Bikes for riding in different areas. Great Video!!
My thoughts exactly, gotta have em both!
Track - 4Stroke
Trees - 2Stroke
Thank you. It's that simple. I tell everyone that.
But for youth racing 2 strokes take the lead🦶🏼
yes but fuel consumption on 2T is horrible ......
@@F32Jakewell that’s true because they need smaller, lighter bikes,(like a 50cc) but need the power to race it so a 50 cc bike is great for youngsters
2 Strokes for the Dirt
4 Stokes for the Street
2 strokes for both I’m in the Bronx nyc
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I love them both. 4 strokes are smooth and have good power but are harder to control and keep momentum in the tight stuff. The engine braking makes woods riding much more intensive with braking and clutching and shifting. The 2 stroke is quicker in the tight stuff and the front end feels lighter and is easier to loft over logs and rocks. That said it's all preference, though I feel more people ride 4 strokes because there's more of them on the market and they would actually be faster on a 2 stroke. Yes, it does come down to skill though because your top gncc riders are blasting away and hauling ass on 4 strokes. If your a straight enduro guy you can't beat a 2 stroke for its luggability and flickability. If you're a trail rider and speed in all areas doesn't matter it's sort of a toss up to me. Motocross riding the 4 stroke is clearly more stable and has more tractable power.
I agree, the correct tool for the job!! I own fourteen two strokes, and ONE four stroke, KLX-450-R the four strokesare heavier, and there nothing like the older ones, like XR's
Would you consider selling one of your 2 strokes. I’ve been saving for years and just can’t find one in my price range. I want a 125 that will last me a few years at least that I don’t have to worry about tearing up 😂. But I don’t want to spend a whole lot. Anyway if you would consider it, please comment
4t bikes and 2t bikes are both awesome. We’re all riders and we should have fun and not argue
There is only one way to solve this debate! Buy both of them, keep both of them, and love both of them :D
...got both, but only ride the gg 300 2T lately. 1. It feels lighter and more manageable. 2. The small bore provides good traction, but makes plenty of power when I need it. ...loving it!!! 😍
I have a 2015 Husky FE350 and just picked up a 2020 Beta 200rr. I already have this internal struggle going on about which one to ride. Other people don't seem to get it. It's about picking the right tool for the job. I don't throw out my Crescent wrench because I got a shiny new pair of vise grips
Key is to have fun
I’ve never ridden a two stroke I like the idea of something lighter then I currently have I enjoy the features of the four stroke on 4 to 5 day overnight trips
Try one, you won’t go back
@@honda8192 I tried one. Ill stick with my 4t. 2t was fun but I like the power of the 4t better. Not to mention Im not a big fan of the 2t sound
2 strokes are calling your name then bro. He’s right, once you try a 2 stroke, you’ll never want to ride a 4 stroke again
I race a 4 stroke on the track, I find it better on the track, but I also own a ktm 250 2 stroke which I prefer much more in the trails such good fun in the trails!!!
I am about to turn 40 but Man I know the feeling. I can’t stop riding my 96 RM 250. I could definitely go out and buy another bike. But it’s still one of the sweetest bikes I have. now don’t get me wrong I’ve got a lot of money put in it but man I love it. I’ve had it for almost 13 years now. I have a 98 CR 500 and it’s fixed up really nice but I almost never ride it.
Which one is easier to maintain for someone with very little experience? last longer? easier for a beginner?
2 stroke is easy to maintain. 4 stroke is easy to ride.
Not all of that is true. 2 strokes have less moving parts and tend to not need very much maintaining. Also tend to last longer. Also one is not easier than the other. A 125 2 stroke is the same size and power comparison to a 250 4 stroke. But 2 strokes are lighter and easier to maneuver and have far faster acceleration
Which is best on the road and intermediate dirt trails ,as this is what terrain i will be riding on ...thank you
Hands down a 4-stroke. Two-stroke is boring in such conditions.
Not true. For that case either will work but you’ll have better off the bay power and acceleration on a 2 strokw
From the day as a kid I through a leg over my YZ80 and felt that powerband, I knew 2 strokes were for me. Ride an 01 CR250 today no matter the terrain, and I wouldnt have it any other way.
I just picked up a CRF450l and I love that bike but eventually I want a 250 two stroke bike as well. I'm just to the point where I want both vs trying to figure out which one is the best because neither one is the best at everything
300 cc is probably is, will do everything you throw at it. Motocross, rally, hard enduro, it will do everything.
2 stroke for me as it just sounds as crazy as a bike looks.They vibrate ,they sound sick and that pipe ting just adds to it all
For me , KTM 450SXF & I couldn't be happier. After riding this bike my desires to ride anything else died.
It’s simple... if you race get a 2 stroke but if your just in ur back yard having fun then get a 4 stroke. Personally I prefer 4 stoke. Does not have the feeling I might die.
Two strokes are easier to ride in tight stuff at least the smaller displacement bikes are . A 450 is an open bike just like a 500 two stroke is and they are harder to ride in tight stuff as well. In low traction situations dry hardpack flat corners i prefer the 4 stroke. Sand and loam the two stroke gets on top of way better 4 strokes plow in soft stuff.
That was the best 2 stroke vs 4 stroke video i have seen.
If we're talking off-road, it's 2 strokes... period :)
4 strokes for the desert, 2 strokes for the hills.
Ding Ding Ding, the correct answer. The right tool for the job. I have one of each. With that said, if I had to have just one. 2T.
Witch one would work best to have a little fun on the road as well?
Kx500 is ultimate desert weapon
@@tobymozer7465 A 4stroke would be best but If you could get away with it in OZ, two stroke, especially one with a counterbalanced motor.
I love my CR500 for desert riding. Big bore 2-strokes rule!
If you ride trails/hard enduro stuff you going to want to ride a 2T
Biggest thing people need to understand is buyers in market looking for 6/7 year old bikes ... If I was to buy new I'd go 4 stroke simply because the new technology in them... 6/7 year old market ( which I'm in) wouldn't touch a 4 stroke
Two strokes acceleration is higher and is enjoyable to listen too.
There, the debate is over.
No perfect bike between 2 Smoke or 4 Stroke... Therefore, you have to have both, or multiples of both. :-)
The most fun is winning! Which one pulls the best lap times? Which one is better for jumping? Holeshots? rough tracks?
I just bought a KX450 just for the sand dunes and I have a TX300 for the trails. Best of both worlds!
I'm soo stuck between getting a ktm 150sx or a 250 four stroke. 65% of my riding will be motocross tracks and the other 35% will be offroad/trails. I had yz85 when I was 14 years old and loved it (22 now, took a 7 year break from riding) so i have the basics down but I can't decide what I want.
From what I hear, 4 strokes are smoother, get traction better, easier to control, and are more controllable when you hit jumps but the maintenance is extremely expensive (but not as frequent as a 2 stroke) and they are a good bit heavier
A 150sx would be much lighter and really fun for tearing around and gets up to speed but isn't gonna have that smooth delivery and traction a 4 stroke can provide. And although they require maintenance more frequently it is much cheaper to get them serviced.
I know how to work on bikes to an extent (adjustments, installing plastics, bars, accessories etc.), but engine work is something I wouldn't trust myself with and I would take it somewhere to get it tuned up and I know the price of labor on a 4 stroke when it comes to top/bottom end rebuilds and valve adjustments can be pretty high.
If I'm wrong on anything in my comment please correct me and let me know what you think by helping this indecisive internet stranger pick out a bike once and for all. I also wanna say thank you to this channel. I was gonna buy merch off amazon but screw that. I will definitely buy my strap downs, socks, shirts and whatever other accessories I need from you because you have given me and others amazing information.
Thank you!
The tighter, slower and more technical 2t, fast ,flowy, mx , dual sport 4t every time. Rode the newest 4t I have ever ridden, 17 ktm 350 excw- and it was pretty amazing, turns and felt as light as my 05 300 xcw and power was everywhere in the rpm range. Very impressive date, but I dont want to be stuck with the bill come rebuild or repair time on that motor.
It won't be that more expensive than 2 stroke. In a long run they will both go for same price range... maybe little more for 4T.
2 stroke has come long way and can go almost for same length with 1 piston as 4 stroke. But the fuel usage, oil, combined with less hours til maintenance it will be in same price category. Constant Valve clearence adjusting is a myth and most won't even need adjusting til piston change. Ride what you like and don't worry about rebuilds... Its an expensive hobby anyway.
2T-4T all goes down to personal preference, i could happily enjoy equally as much, the raw power of the 2T feels amazing, but the torque of a 4T and that mean BRAAP! makes me feel godlike, so it is personal preference really
Im Old School, 59..Heros , Roger Decoster Brad Lackey, Tony Dee later Marty Smith. I thought Bob Hannah was a punk...; )... Raced my Brand New 1975 RM250 when I was 15, Its the smell and sound of the two stroke, In my day It was the only ride, Nowadays the stupid fart sound of the 4..Two strokes rule and awaken the senses of what the radical, sick, and twisted minds of Dirt Riders create and express when they are riding.. the power band of the 2 becomes a part of you..I still ride a KX500 but this body cant do it justice anymore...I have fun and thats the bottom line I know the advantages of the big 4s but I just love the smells and sound of my 2... just sayin
I have a CRF 150r right now and it’s my first bike. I’m 14, 5ft 8 inches and 125 pounds and need a bigger bike but i don’t know if I should get a 125 2 stroke or 250 4 stroke. I’m a ok rider but not a great rider . I ride track mostly and I don’t know what would be good for me. It would really help to get your opinion! Thanks!
Not sure I grab your analogy? However I feel I’m faster on a four stroke but when the stop watch comes out I’m just as fast on a two stroke
I am trying to decide now between the Beta 390 and or the Rieju 300 6 days bike. Decisions, decisions.
Hey Kyle Brotherson PLEASE READ I really like you as a person because you are an inspiration to me and I spend all my time watching your videos because you put a lot of effort into making them I really think that you are a awesome guy. All I want is to have a ktm xc 250 or husky te300i but my mother would never let me ride a motorbike but when I am on my mountain bike I always emagen that it is a ktm xc 250 2stroke screaming down the road I have always liked motorbikes since little and still do especially dirt bikes and adventure bikes. just wanted to let you know that you are doing a great job with making your videos and rideing KEEP IT UP!!! #GREAT CONTENT.
Work hard at school and with your hands. You can get a whatever you want when you make enough money to move out of mom's house.
What is better to put around on a 2 stroke for a 4 stroke
You look good, you feel good. You feel good, you ride good.
Lol, I'm a 4 stroke guy, but I can't pull off that suit thang.
I have a 300ktm buddy I ride single track with, every now and again I get to ride his 300, I love it(almost a perfect tool), but he doesn't like a 350, 450 or 500 on single track, so we dont switch often enough
In a better world for me, I need a 200lb 300xc(get busy ktm) for local single track, and my buddy needs a fe350 plated so we can ride the T1 tour of Idaho together!
😁😁😁
I'm a old school 2-stroke guy going back to the 1980s. I had a few 4-stroke bikes and a ATV for awhile and never really cared for them. Something about a Yamaha YZ 2-stroke that gets the blood pumping. If it wasn't for the EPA and dogooders 4-stroke dirt/motocross bikes wouldn't even exist. In 1998 the AMA started allowing 450cc 4-stroke bikes to compete against 250cc 2-stroke bikes. That should tell you something right there. On average a 2-stroke bike makes at least 30% more power of the same displacement 4-stroke bike. I can attest first hand to that when my 1980 Yamaha YZ80 "bumblebee" 80cc 2-stroke would lay the smack down on larger displacement 100cc and 125cc 4-stroke enduro or "trail bikes with ease. I haven't had a bike of any kind since 2008 when I sold my Harley road bike. I have been very temped and thinking about getting a newer 2-stroke Yamaha YZ-125 or a KTM 125 just to play around with and rip around on. I want a explosive power band that has instant power. When riding off-road and on dirt the last thing you want is a heavy and boggy 4-stroke dirt bike. Also the 2-strokes are far simpler with less parts and are both a lot easier and cheaper to fix than their 4-stroke equivalents.
There's really no way you can call modern 4 strokes boggy or heavy, the KTM 450s are making over 60 horsepower and weigh right around 220 pounds. That's 15 more horsepower, a wider powerband, a higher redline, a higher top speed and about the same weight as any modern 250 two stroke.
People can try to babble about how I have twice the displacement of their 250 but it's hard to talk when they're eating my roost.
Unless you get your hands on a 500 two stroke you'll never keep up with the 450s on any stock 2 stroke bike.
Hell, the 450s even give the 500s a run for their money in drag races. Don't believe me just watch a few videos like "CR500 vs 450" or something like that.
@@harrypeterson9287
250cc vs a 450cc or a 500cc. How is your math?
@@JohnDoeEagle1
Just look up CR500 vs KTM450. Even with a 50cc advantage the 2 stroke loses from start to finish to the 4 stroke.
So much for being sluggish and heavy.
My math is fine, better than your ability admit being wrong.
@@harrypeterson9287
50cc bigger?
It's twice the size.....250cc bigger. I've rode my Cousin's late 90's Kawasaki KX-250 2-stroke before too so you aren't going to BS me. It was insanely fast and could pull the front wheel on acceleration very easily without even trying. Also in AMA in 1998 they legalized 250cc 2-strokes to compete against 450cc 4-strokes. That I know for sure and remember.
@@harrypeterson9287
Not to mention they sound like a wet ass farting on acceleration!
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I think if you road a 350XC with a recluse you might like it equally as good. its the flame out that really sucks. Thoughts?
Agreed, My last 3 bikes since 2012 have been a KTM 350xcf with a recluse. its the perfect bike for me.
I have owned 2 of them (KTM 350s) and have ridden more than a dozen bikes with Rekluse auto clutches. I'm not a fan of it.
@@DirtBikeChannel What is it about them you don't like?
I don't want to waste my money if there bad.
I have both a 09 TTR125 and a 97" Rm250 I've been riding my 4 stroke for a long time an next spring gonna hit the track with the 2 stroke gang
I love both,if I could choose 1 it would be 4 stroke,but 2 stroke so god dam fun
The cost of maintenance and rebuilds alone makes 2 strokes the better choice. The engine and handling dynamics are just the cherry!
Do you still have a referral partnership with RM ATV? Just buying some parts and want to give you a shout out.
Love my 300 exc. I've riden both and I definitely prefer the 2 stroke! They are more fun to ride especially riding on the pipe 😩 something you just don't get from the 4 strokes. I really like the slow technical riding and the 4 strokes just don't do well at super slow speeds.
Ride the bike that speaks to your soul
Well look at Ronnie Mac has to be a 250cc 2 smoker 1996 😂
I'm thinking about getting a 3 stroke....
Don't forget to get a long extension cord for the bigger trips,
Please review the new Yamaha Yz 125x, beta 200rr and husqvarna 150. Would love to hear your thoughts on the small bores!
Kyle doesn't seem to like small bores. He's reviewed a ktm 150 though.
I just got the 2020 Beta 200RR. That is next :)
@@DirtBikeChannel fantastic! Looking forward to the videos
They require much more work to ride. Lots of shifting. I have raced and won championships on a KTM 150, but when I moved to a KTM 350, it was a game changer. I ride the 150 for fun and practice, but race the 350.
@@jfuqua72 I have had my best results and most fun on a KTM 150, I struggled on a 300 4t. I love small bores, wouldn't go back! To me shifting and revving is all part of the fun.
Just found your channel and love it and I'm right there with you but I'm older so it's now 4 stroke for me the energy you put into a 2 is what you get out it a more symbiot relationship clutch work throttle work oh so important but satisfying,dont get old 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍👍
I ride a 2002 KTM 300 exc. gotta love the power delivery and sound of the 300 2 strokes
Call me weird, but I prefer the easy of running on the 4-stroke. And the sound too. The lower rumble is my type. And premix is not my jam.
Just sold my KTM 300 went to a YZ450fx never going back to 2 strokes......
I love riding my 2 stroke like the feeling more only problem i have is i mainly trail ride with my brother and dad and they both have 4 strokes so i can't ride as far as them because I run out of gas twice as fast
I'm trying to decide for my and my son 2 or 4 kawasaki kx or klx
@@717Chris I'd personally go with whatever you guys are comfortable with. For the gas with a 2 stroke u can always buy an aftermarket gas tank to hold a few more gallons and get a lot more out if a single ride if that's an issue for you like it was me.
I mainly do hair scramble style riding, but sometimes do enduro and/or motocross. But I also want something that can comfortably ride to and from trails via street without using too much fuel. I basically want a regular dirt bike with the luxury of the street if need be (5-30 minutes max at a time on the street) without using too much fuel, not a dedicated street bike. I can’t decide between a wr250f or yz250x concerted to street
Haha love the suit bit LMAO 🤣🤣🤣good video
Nice suit and watch but the shoes dont do it for me. 2 strokes FTW
@@McNamEvan You don't like my 14 year old dress shoes!?
@@DirtBikeChannel haha going through old comments? quarantine must be taking its toll. I'm just busting balls but 14 years is a long time. Polish those old girls and tellem thanks.