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- In this new series I'm going to catalog the history of RC racing, story by story, company by company. In this episode I'll be going over Team Associated, mostly the RC10 but you'll see why I focus so much on that in the end. I've always been good in my history classes so why not put those skills to use.
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The B4 would have to be considered the greatest RC race car of all time - winning 4 world championships. Even though the classic RC10 is the most iconic and influential.
My first Hobby grade RC was and RC10T. My dad custom painted the body. I wish I never sold it. 20+ years later I’m back into RC cars with my son. Great video, thank you.
We both have the same regret, as I regret selling my JRX2 on EBay in 2000.
Same here, RC10T!!
Samesies! I bought one my sophomore year, to this day I wish I still had it. No clue what I did with it... I raced it once then life had other plans for me. That truck dominated that evening...
I believe "braids" were the copper brush assemblies that were underneath the slot car that made contact with the electrified ribbon imbedded in the track that powered the cars.
I the mid motor started with Xfactory with the help of Brian Kinwald it was a conversion kit for the B4 the x6 squared and the x60st. Then Brian started racing with TLR that’s when the 22 was born. I had the privilege to race with Brian at Competitions Hobbies in Tucson Arizona and I still have my Xfactory cars and love driving them. This video really took me back I started racing in 84 and still love it. Great content keep up the great work!!
Ahhh just hearing RC10 sends me back to childhood. My RC10 was the thing I was most proud of.
Raced AE for about 5 years before just recently switching to Tekno and now driving the EB410.2&ET410. The amount of engineering that goes into these little off-road 10th scale cars is incredible, and that's coming from someone that was an F-22&F-35 mechanic for over a decade.
A 6 Gear Gold pan was my first RC car. When the Stealth cars came out, I moved to it and handed my 6 gear down to my brother. We still have the cars today. And Yes, the are still in working order. Tekin 4-11 P2 ESCs Old Futaba Radios and I ran a Trinity Green Machine motor and my brother ran a Slot Machine. When the re-release cars were announce, our local track started a vintage class. I put B4 rear hubs (to run modern wheel and tires), bearings, CVDs, upper gear and a B4 slipper clutch in it. We were allow to run 17.5 turn brushless motors. So that's what I did. I put a fast Savox servo in it, JConcepts steering setup on it with Bar code tires all around. I came in 2nd the fist couple races then the class died out. When people would break or ware out parts, they couldn't replace them right away, they just stopped racing the vintage class... I get mine out a few times a year just to play out side from time to time. I also have a Gold pan that is now a stealth with the Kyosho monster truck conversion on it. That is also brushless and super cool to drive.
I think that's the part that holds Vintage classes back, part support. Luckily with the advent of 3d printing you can make replacement parts or by them third party. My friend Brock Peterson and RC Racing Legends are both 3d printers who work on vintage parts.
Haven't raced since 1993ish. Still have my RC10T setup like i was coming back the next week. Pretty cool time capsule
This gave me flashbacks to my high school days, when I would run my RC10 against my buddy's JRX2. So much fun just running around the bases of the soft ball field at the local park!
THANK YOU GOD, I have found your channel. I like no nonsense informative rc videos. When jang at URC packed his bags 9 years ago, I moved on to watch short course world. When short course world stopped unloading, I started watching Ryan Harris. You and Ryan are keeping this going for me. Excellent channel. Keep up the great work. Up there with URC and SCW
That means a lot to be compared to SCW, URC and Ryan. Thank you so much😊
I had the first rc10. The trick it was to get the transmission running free. Out of the box it was tight!
I also toured the AE shop in 91, with non other then Cliff Lett. The old days were great.
Always had AE , since they started! Been racing a few years now 40 plus ,still racing now 77 years old, still love it!!
Stay awesome Graham 💪❤
Good to see a AE history. I started racing with an RC10. It was huge, everyone ran it back then. Then the RC10T came out and everyone went crazy for stadium truck. Losi had the jrx-2 and later the jrxt and the stage was set for a great rivalry!
By the way, the scientific reason a mid motored car turns with greater agility than a rear motored car is that the mid motored car has a smaller Polar Moment of Inertia. It is a measure of how the mass is distributed about the rotational axis. When the figure skater retracts her legs and spins faster, she is reducing her polar moment of inertia, allowing her angular velocity to increase.
Who remembers a Hobbico 900 Series NiCad Chargers? Remember the sound of the dial timers and the smell and heat they produced? Good times!
When I raced my JRX2 in northern Delaware in 1989, the vast majority of cars were RC10s. The store employee originally thought my JRX2 was an RC10.
I agree I miss Jang URC to😞 excellent history lesson thank you for sharing…..👍👍👍👍
Your history documentaries are first rate. This is a pretty obscure subject, ne which I have wondered about but never found anything on. Your research is extensive and your production is excellent. Thanks!
Wow, this was great! Excited to see more, maybe Losi or HPI next? (😁)
These types of videos make it easy for people that joined the hobby later to learn about the roots of RC, so much juicy history
This is a cool video, there’s a lot more companies you could do…. I won the Georgia state carpet championship in 2004 with a AE RC12L4, that was hands down the best 12th scale car I ever drove…. So consistent
Kinwald won the 97 worlds with a losi. Brian Dunbar finished 2nd in a losi. Masami finished 3rd for AE.
I met Kinwald when I was a kid and I was heart broke he moved to Losi. He did work for AE again and helped design the SC10 4x4.
@@spuds7677 yea he was one of the heroes for sure. I race with Brian Dunbar almost every week. He’s still fast lol.
My first hobby grade rc was RC10 T. There area I lived in didn't have a off road track so I set my truck up for on road racing. We had a point class for outlaw trucks. I missed half the season because I didn't even know it existed. Anyway by the end of the season I finished 2nd in points with my 10t. I dominated with it. I loved that truck. Great video
Gill losi had a hand in the development of the rc 10. A lot of associated guys don't recognize that. My memory might be a little foggy but i thought the double x took the worlds when it debuted in 90's and i seem to remember the double X hitting the track before the B2. This was many years ago and I was just getting into the hobby. The double x is the car that got my intention and inspired me. Guys were still running the rc10 at the time and the double x seemed leaps ahead in technology next to the rc10. Associated took inspiration from the XX platform with the b2 and b3. I was there when these cars debuted but never got into the politics back then. Losi isn't the same losi it used to be but I still like tlr, after all tlr won the Nationals with the 22 5.0 the last 2 years in a row and Tater took the world last year with the 5.0. They're all basically made in China now anyways. The politics and history between Associated and losi has always been a little obscured. But the roots of Losi and associated were sort of intertwine
Still have my old B4, and B5.M and a few parts from my gold pan that I got second hand as a kid.
Awesome vid, if you want to know more about the evolution of the mid-motor cars you need to look into the X-factory conversion kits. The owners are Paul and Chazz Sinclair. They were working on mid-motor chassis kits for years before the mainstream companies and tracks switched. We actually sold their kits at our hobby store in Michigan.
Interestingly enough, the mid motor conversions have been around at least since the rc10. The one that comes to mind is the tekin rc10 mid motor conversion. There is a TH-cam channel that features one in a few of his videos, drmosfet
Oh also the tekin mid motor conversion has active rear suspension which I assume the concepts were borrowed from F1 as McLaren around the same time had active suspension prior to the fia banning it due to their dominance
Really excited for part 2. Lovely video
Great! very informative, Keep up the good work, can wait for Part2...
You should do a video on the 91 stealth car. Like how associated made those special tires by analyzing the track months before and building a replica with the same kind of dirt to develop the tires
I raced a RC10 2WD and a Yokomo 4WD in the 80's at an indoor offroad track called Off Road Headquarters in Beltsville MD, good times.
Kyosho has an amazing history too. Founded in 1963, they launched the first Kyosho RC car in 1970: The Dash-1, since then, the company has evolved as well their RC cars, winning 8 world championships in total. Tamiya is also a big fish in this tank (if not the biggest). In the R/C industry, one of the real "OG's" (originals) is none other than Tamiya. Tamiya got there start in wooden models back in 1948. They would go on to begin plastic model production in 1968, and make quite a name for themselves in both markets. While they had releases a few motorized tanks shortly after this, it wasn't until November, 1976 that they would introduce their first R/C car - the 1/12-scale Porsche 934 Turbo. The rest is a ver well known history.
My mother and family brought us to japan in1961 but in 1963 we were back for family ..i had seen some airmen on tarmack on base driving cars around,, I was hooked,, my uncle bought me my first rc,, a panzer tank,, i believe it was a kyosho now but a differt name previous.. a frw years later i gave it to my cousin.. Ive raced rc ele, nitro associated, losi, hpi and yokomo, tamiya,kyosho since.. still have some kits new but stopped racing in 2014,,, the good ole days,, have grand kids, have a second chance!!!
My first RC was a Kyosho Raider II in 1990
I Bought my first Associated car in 2019. A B61 DL. Then I bought a B61 D carpet car that was used. And in 2021 I bought my Second Losi in almost 30 year's. A 22X 4.
There are only 2 RC cars that I happen to own, the RC10 and the RC12, so I enjoyed hearing this story, thanks.
Nicely done. We need more history of our hobby. 🤟 New sub here
My First Hobby Grade RC I ever purchased was actually a Nitro RS4 2 By HPI. Then I bought a Nitro MT as well by HPI.
These history videos are really good. Well written, well spoken, well presented. Well done all around.
this is such a great video series Idea, thx for covering some stuff I don't see talked abt often in the hobby :3
I miss my 90’s Rc10, Kyosho Ultima, Losi JRX2 and some 8th scale indoor car.
Fantastic video! Really well done!
They have always put out a good product, and they are just a good company. I have been in the RC hobby for 20+ years. good experience every time.
Great Content! I learned a lot of this history through story's and old articles but having a video makes it so much better.
i love the Losi XXX i own 4 of them, so stylish.
Wonderful video! Thank you. I got into RC deep in 2014. Getting to know the history really sparks my interest.
Nicely put together RC history video.
Great video
I tell you what I remember for Team Associated on-road for electric it’s started with the various generations of RC12L that continued up until the end, then they decided to go into 1/10 pan cars with the RC10L around the mid late 80’s one thing to note at one point the RC10L held the RC speed record in 1991 at 70mph on a bicycle oval (I still have the RCCA mag that featured the car and race) that record was broken afterwards with a 10L based custom creation… eventually that evolved into two different cars a RC10SS (super speed way) for oval racing and a regular RC10L2 for road corse not much changed visually there until they ended the OnRoad program I believe the final variant was called the RC10L5 or something. somewhere before their first real TC enter the oddity that was the RC10DS & Nitro DS based on the RC10 Worlds car and the RC10GT for the nitro version both were a RWD 200mm wide touring car that never really found its place In parking lot racing (maybe eventually dirt oval) enter their first real 4WD Touring Car around 2000/2001 the TC3 and it’s nitro variant the Nitro TC3 both were very efficient shaft drive 4WD when other electric TC were belt drive the TC3 pretty much dominated the parking lots and outdoor asphalt tracks in the early 2000’s I’m not sure when the TC4 was released but it was just an updated TC3 by then everyone else went back to a 2 belt 4WD layout enter so the TC5 and later TC5R (rubber tire variant for asphalt racing) around 2007 and 2008 respectively this was their first 2 belt TC then we get the TC6 and it’s variants and finally the TC7/ TC7.1 and to correct you the TC7.2 was actually the last car they were barely out the door when associated pulled the plug side note they also produced a F1 car called the RC10F6, in 2017. Team Associated had a very long history with OnRoad electric and Nitro it’s sad it all ended the way it did
Really great video! I actually started racing in the late 80's and remember the cars and drivers you mentioned. I am just getting back into the sport and Associated and Losi are still dominating. Looking forward to the next video.
Very informative video. Thanks for the content
Superb great vid,well put together 👌
Nice! This is exciting.
Loved this and is exactly why I chose ae for my rides when I got back into racing
great video and information
I'd like to see the history of losi as my first RC was a Mini-T shortly followed by the XXX-T
Great history lesson thank you I really enjoyed it.
Love the variaty of your content
Awesome video man! Found your acount a few weeks ago and love it. Keep it up!
Also, If I’m not mistaken braids are the wires under a slot car that connect it to the track
Thanks for letting me know😊
Had an original RC10 , RC12I and 12L way back in the day. Ive been out of it for over 30 years, and unfortunately RC tracks and racing are not popular in my area. If 1/12 were a thing locally, Id dive back into it.
Very good and interesting job my dear friend, big like and have a happy sunday 👍
You too friend😊
Great vid. Yeah Associated make/made a lot of classic gear. Eta: oh yeah, one of those 80’s ifmar titles actually wasn’t won by Associated. It was won by the Kyosho Ultima. Another car you could do a history on.
Like your vids. I’m a racer from the old days of the first days of rc 10 and jrx2 I’m getting back into racing after 22 years my problem is no tracks near me and finding a reliable source of race tracks for dirt oval has proven less than reliable someone should come out with a present day list of tracks and the classes they run. Especially in the southwest corner of New York State Northwest corner of Pennsylvania or anywhere in those two states
Nice vídeo!!
I thought for sure that Brian Kinwald won the 1997 Worlds with the XXCR
Yeah, I was looking at qualifying and not the finals. My bad
Joel Johnson won 1987 worlds with Kyosho
❤❤❤love the way you shoot this video, awesome
Great trip down memory lane. Slot car racing, the rise of the RC 10. Kinwald, Reedy. No mention of Novak (R.I.P.)
My 1st kit was their World's Car followed up by their Dual Sport.
I built a Grasshopper over the fall.
On the hunt for a decent gold pan car.
Funny enough. My first associated kit was the b6.2. I got into the game very, VERY late😅
Nice Job , showing off the history of RC , THX for that channel is Subbed and the bell got hit :)
Great video
Very nice video 👍
your doing a great job bud keep it up
Love this video i srarted racing in the 90s and yes Schumacher and mardave and team associated were very dominant Bk in the day i still have rc cars and yes 1 of the is Team associated RC10 GT blue edition 1\10th rc nitro truck 👍
Really educating
Interesting. I’ve never raced rc cars. This is quiet fascinating. The hobby shops here in Australia push Tamiya.
this was awesome 👍
schumacher ball diff. and the other brands outside the US.
Also cell technology through the last 30 years.
Great video👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
If team associated ever goes away I'm taking a bath with my toaster
This video was tight man love it. I'm still in between team associated or TLR.
Just like Chevy vs Ford...
MY FIRST hobby grade was a ECX amp MT lol and I ran it in novice did horrible out doors but indoors I was honestly doing well with it. I won a few races but more or so I was consistent. What I think is most important when learning to drive and race is being consistent.
Amazing Mets 🤘🔥
I was wondering if someone would notice that
@@RoachRC I am a Met fan
Great video! B5M borrowed heavily from the centro in terms of weight distribution. (And the xfactory)
Slot cars braids are the pick ups instead of the little copper plates that can where with a grove the braid is more like a bunch of small metal-wires and they are in a over under pattern to hold the wires together thats how the name braid comes in. The little wires are braided together thins the name.
Awesome vid man! I started in 1/10 buggies and I remember when RC10's began to dominate! What I don't remember is when XRay slid into the mix in this great class! In Australia there's a lot of guys running XB2 and 4's. Any chance you could do a piece on when they entered the TLR and Team Associated battle? Love your work!🤙🤙
I will. I've been away from my PC so I haven't been able to continue much on that project.
This kinda makes me want to dig out my goldpan and run it
I mean, What's stopping you? Apart from all the things stopping you
@@RoachRC It's buried deep in storage
@@alphawlff Well it's nice to know people still have them.
I got into racing off road buggy and my first buggy is a team associated b6.2. I love it so fare.
Hi Roach RC! Great Vid! -have you done a history of Schumacher RC vid yet? Hate comparing US to UK but you guys are closer to where I started 30 years ago- that was on on dirt!
I loved racing on that surface, and it is completely off the radar over here now, we have astro & and carpet, which is cool, but almost like on-road with the grip level...
if I had the money I'd start a covered UK dirt track club, (it rains a bit here) - and get some rooster tails going like the ol' days :) do you have many UK subscribers? meantime, All the best Dude!
Thanks for the kind words man. I did plan to do a Schumacher video but a few other projects pushed it back.
Also the top three countries that watch my videos are the US (duh), Canada, and the UK but people from a lot of different places have stumbled into my channel.
Lastly, "It rains a bit". Only a bit?😅
Would like see one about losi
RCS with the dynamite stick heavy batteries that would lose all the power in like 10 minutes you had to have at least three battery packs and I bought a kit where I had to put it together from RC action magazine
my first rc car is a TA :)
Great video! How's the Tekno treating you. But more importantly, did you play The Witch Queen yet?
Been treating me well. Also yes I have played witch queen. Though unfortunately I couldn't beat the raid day one
@@RoachRC same here. Killed Caretaker and failed to get to the next encounter. I gave up trying. I had already spent way too much time prior to that.
@@Chuchuguitar My team got stuck on Rhulk for about 4 hours before we had to turn in
Great video! Well produced 👍🏻
Just a footnote though, Rivkin won the 2019 worlds, I think you said 2021, which obviously didn’t run because of the virus that shall not be named 😂
I would be interested in TLR background story
I believe the Losi XX-CR won the 2WD IFMAR Worlds in 1997, not an RC10 variant.
It was corrected in the LOSI vid
Futaba would be a good project from back in the day. I think nearly everyone had their stuff until JR came around.
JR?
@@RoachRC JR Propo
@@cbrduck7846 Ah okay. Didn't think they were still around.
You skipped over:
-the 1989 RC10 Graphite
-the RC10 Championship Edition
-the TQ10 and
-the RC10 Team car
Only had one ... TC3.. was supposed to be revolutionary. But failed. The carbon arms broke way to easy. The gearboxes munch down on the ball-bearings. Still got it too..
Tekno next pls 👍
One moment of silence for ultimate rc 🥺
Press F to pay respects
@@RoachRC F
Anna and hpi still here bud
I was there Roach RC... 3000 years ago
I went into the grand archives to find answers. Came back and found some prehistoric technology called "magazines"
@@RoachRC
LMAO
Love hpi 💘
What happened to jang? I used to watch his videos.
The track he used to test at moved and local authorities wouldn't let him bash anywhere. Now he does Legos on his new channel JangBricks
Kyosho next.
DERICK BAILEY RC 1/10 SCALE CHESTERFIELD , Jim alsop, and Jamie booth, Jim's my dad and beat booth and Bailey for the British championships 1984. U.K
The mid motor part of your story sadly is incorrect otherwise very good.