The Truth - [THE END] Reyony Streams Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

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  • @reyony
    @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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  • @onemuststand7353
    @onemuststand7353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    To give a more contextual gut punch about Paz and Venom, look back at the retcon which you've realized was all (the retcon) in Venom's head. ALL of that was his very personal guilt. You touched on the outer layer of it. He was part of MSF and bonded very much with Paz like the others. BUT even deeper than that, Venom was the medic. HE was the one that examined Paz not Big Boss. He had the bigger guilt with her because he felt if only he found that 2nd bomb, a lot of what happened wouldn't have happened. The retcon was Venom's coping mechanism most of all.

    • @reyony
      @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yet another layer!! Thanks for that context, I'm sure this game will continue to haunt us as we think about it more and more! -Anthony

    • @pedrobernardes98
      @pedrobernardes98 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'll never forget his smile when he "sees" her alive

    • @Nothing-of2pm
      @Nothing-of2pm 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This leads into the original MG&MG2. Big Boss used Venom to fight using his name, pushing his name forward and his goals on that end. Leaving Venom with the hard work while Big Boss influenced politics, and worked his end there. He used Venom as a pawn, to achieve his goals and leave himself without the burden of war. This opened up the avenue Big Boss took, to pursue different means without distractions. Venom spent the entire rest of his life fighting till he died. @@reyony

    • @reyony
      @reyony  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Nothing-of2pm I really do want to check out the Metal Gear games one day, especially with this new context. Thanks for watching! -Anthony

    • @Nothing-of2pm
      @Nothing-of2pm 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@reyony Of course! I hope you enjoy them, I left out a lot of depth so you both can experience it for yourselves. Thanks for making this golden content

  • @roroalzahrani412
    @roroalzahrani412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    When Venom broke the mirror, you can see the logo on the door changed from Diamond Dogs insignia to Outer Heaven, some fans says that the time has jumped to 1995 at Outer Heaven base and Venom went to fight Solid Snake.

    • @reyony
      @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes!! People pointed that out so I looked at the VOD and that's pretty cool. I'm more motivated than ever to finally check out Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2! Thanks for watching -Anthony

    • @Acorn_Anomaly
      @Acorn_Anomaly ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not just the logo. The tape recorder becomes an MSX, the console Metal Gear was released on. The sound is (I think) from the original Metal Gear, and the tape is labeled "Operation Intrude N313", which is what Snake's mission is named in MG1.

  • @JIX9ISLER1986
    @JIX9ISLER1986 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The more and more i rewatch the ending dialogue the more i honestly believe this is one of the greatest endings in video game franchise history
    "Now do you remember? Who you are? What you were meant to do? I cheated death, thanks to you(The fans). And thanks to you I’ve left my mark(MGS Franchise). You have too - you’ve written your own history. You’re your own man. I’m Big Boss, and you are too… No… He’s the two of us. Together. Where we are today? We built it. This story - this “legend” - it’s ours. We can change the world - and with it, the future. I am you, and you are me. Carry that with you, wherever you go. Thank you… my friend. From here on out, you’re Big Boss."
    It was Kojima breaking the 4th wall break talking to you the player.....as he exits konami......it was his mic drop moment in the most META way possible....its very powerful if you as the player created yourself at the beginning of the game makes it hit more......This has never been done in gaming history and likely wont be done again.....

  • @manduheavyvazquez5268
    @manduheavyvazquez5268 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    2:02:33 in that moment he goes to fight vs solid snake in the first mgs.

    • @reyony
      @reyony  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still gotta go back and play those! -Anthony

  • @adhiseaman1099
    @adhiseaman1099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Metal Gear franchise doesn't need a movie adaptation of it. The entire game itself had been already feel like a movie, at least from my opinion. 😁

    • @reyony
      @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah that's a good point! Just boot up the game and get some popcorn and you're good to go! Thanks for watching -Anthony

    • @DarkButz
      @DarkButz ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be absolutely impossible to make even one game into a single movie without it ending up being confusing and unsatisfying, maybe except the original Metal Gear, since it didn't have that much of a story. If anything they'd have to make it into a miniseries.

    • @adhiseaman1099
      @adhiseaman1099 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkButz that's right. Because MGS lore has been expanding through their franchise. And I think the video games itself are already giving us the whole story of MGS until their last chapter.

  • @aaronrican5060
    @aaronrican5060 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dude that last tape from big boss is like Kojima thanking the players over the years.

    • @reyony
      @reyony  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yesss it definitely seems that way. Thanks for watching!! -Anthony

  • @onemuststand7353
    @onemuststand7353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Since some time's passed, I think I can reveal to you about the theme of Moby Dick in the game. Now I don't know if either of you've read it but knowing about the book actually kind of spoils the "truth" behind MGSV at the very beginning of the game. Moby Dick is a story about a captain of a ship with the thirst for revenge against a great white whale. The captain's name is Ahab and the entire story revolves around him. He's the central protagonist. HOWEVER, the entire story is told from the perspective of a shipmate named Ishmael. We were made to believe that Venom Snake was Big Boss and so was he. Big Boss called himself Ishmael and called you (Venom Snake) Ahab. Plus Pequod was the name of Ahab's ship in the story.

    • @reyony
      @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ah, thank you!! Dang, I wonder if that prior knowledge of Moby Dick actually spoiled anything for any players out there? Thank you for that context! -Anthony

  • @cybershadowX
    @cybershadowX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Damn, now Im feeling a bit of Phantom Pain knowing that you guys have now completed the game and there won't be any more MGS V streams uploaded lol. Thanks for playing the game. I've enjoyed watching you guys play all of the MGS games and it's been an awesome journey. Look forward to the wrap up MGS stream upload :) MGS V GZ and Phantom Pain is one of my fav games.
    Btw it goes to show how strong Venom Snake (Phantom Big Boss) really was - a medic who was loyal to Big Boss till the very end basically giving up his life to protect him during the heli explosion in GZ, only to be used again as a shield for Big Boss to go and create his new nation. While the medic who has now lost his identity and living a lie basically having to be a decoy for the real Big Boss. He stopped Skull Face and Sahelanthropus, had to live through the guilt of not saving Paz, went through the parasite attack and had to kill his own men to stop the spread of the disease, sparing Huey instead of killing him and same with Quiet. He definitely has a heart compared to Big Boss who is used his own medic to be his meat shield only to later die by the hands of Solid Snake who was sent by Big Boss. My respect for Venom is way higher than Big Boss. But damn, what a story Kojima and the team created. Thanks guys for playing these games! :D

    • @reyony
      @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for the continued support and for the additional context and your perspective on Venom Snake. We definitely have a lot to talk about in the Series Debriefing stream!! -Anthony

  • @damacattack8434
    @damacattack8434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The Phantom Pain truly was Hideo Kojima's swan song.

    • @reyony
      @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I just wish it was more in line with that he wanted. I enjoyed it, though! -Anthony

    • @damacattack8434
      @damacattack8434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@reyony Either way, Kojima completely turned Big Boss into The Man Who Sold The World.

  • @vanRafaHD
    @vanRafaHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:14:30 and 1:16:00 iconic reactions hahaha! Glad I could catch up on the vod, can't wait for the debrief stream in the future :D

    • @reyony
      @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah it was pretty exciting to finally play a game that's a first-time for both of us! Thanks for the support! -Anthony

  • @GreyDoofus88
    @GreyDoofus88 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There is a reason as to why John chose David over Eli, even though both of them wanted him dead. David's will and conviction reminded Big Boss of his own mentor, so he sent to him Outer Heaven to kill Venom Snake, under the watchful eye of his most trusted lieutenant Frank Jaeger in '95.
    Four years later in Zanzibar Land under the guise of being his enemy, Gray Fox then guided David into facing down his old man, in the hopes that both of them could find peace. Sadly Zero didn't want to let either of them go, especially Big Boss.

    • @reyony
      @reyony  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's great insight!! You're making me really want to play the Metal Gear games one day haha -Anthony

    • @GreyDoofus88
      @GreyDoofus88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@reyony It makes sense really. Big Boss still could not come to terms with his mentor's death, especially given how she had such an overwhelming charisma about her. And of course Ocelot ironically saw Big Boss as an older brother, so even he was as willing to do his part in helping David, again like Frank under the guise of being his enemy.

  • @guilhermeveigadeandrade7428
    @guilhermeveigadeandrade7428 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Venon Snake is the antagonist of the first Metal Gear, a thing that was never explained because it just told that the big boss of the first game was just a fake big boss, so this game is a background of this forgoten antagonist of the fist metal gear

    • @reyony
      @reyony  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah! I hope to play those one day. Thanks for watching and for the comment! -Anthony

  • @none0403
    @none0403 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i love this game and fox engine feels so real

    • @reyony
      @reyony  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, and it holds up so well! -Anthony

  • @victorbernard7384
    @victorbernard7384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I don't know if you y'all know, But the real big boss establishes outer heaven in tsylenoyarsk which is the same battleground where bigboss and the boss fought in snake eater

    • @reyony
      @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whoa that's pretty intense. Everything always connects back in this series, huh? Thanks for watching! -Anthony

    • @kingspeedwagon2612
      @kingspeedwagon2612 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Everything says Outer Heaven was established in South Africa. Where did you get that info?

    • @victorbernard7384
      @victorbernard7384 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kingspeedwagon2612 you realize there was 2 outer heaven right??, Tselinoyarsk is Zanzibarland it is the first base that young solid snake goes in on operation n313. That was actually the real outer heaven, outer heaven in Africa(technically on sea near Africa) is venom snakes outer heaven to hide the real one in Zanzibarland. Ending of mgsv ocelot told kaz big boss building the true outerheaven somewhere else but the location was never revealed. Also mgsv plot made the story much worse cause it left a lot of questions.

    • @victorbernard7384
      @victorbernard7384 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mgs4 eva said the same to solid snake. She clearly mentioned outer heaven and then mentioned "and in Zanzibarland" which its 2 locations.

  • @wildbard4112
    @wildbard4112 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man what a great story. It gets so much undeserved hate just because it's different.

    • @reyony
      @reyony  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes! I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks for watching! -Anthony

  • @DarthDragon007
    @DarthDragon007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ocelot: If the time you ever go back to Cipher...
    Me: I knew Kaz said he was "using" Cipher in Peace Walker, but what Ocelot just said....gives Huey's accusation about Kaz working with Cipher 9 years ago makes sense. Kaz was originally part of Cipher as well. Zadornov constantly escaping had to have more Cipher insiders than just Paz.

    • @reyony
      @reyony  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can't wait to go back and replay everything with this in mind! -Anthony

    • @DarthDragon007
      @DarthDragon007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@reyony Apparently there's a tape in Peace Walker which has Kaz as more than just a regular business partner with Cipher....he knew some high level top secret stuff then, things someone shouldn't know about unless they had the highest level clearance....Kaz knew about the Les Enfant Terribles, before even Big Boss himself found out!
      He even referred to Zero as my dear Zero. Now that might've been mocking, not sure but even then that shows a closer relationship than what Kaz said he was with Cipher...

  • @manduheavyvazquez5268
    @manduheavyvazquez5268 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Masterpiece ever. Great

    • @reyony
      @reyony  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching!! -Anthony

  • @akbarthegeneralist1471
    @akbarthegeneralist1471 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    you know this whole series has partially become some grown ups version of a high school flick movie . I mean we got a bunch of guys fighting over what one girl wants . Now the boss is like this popular girl and she's got these crazy admirers , Zero can be seen as that rich kid , big boss can be seen as the football jock and skull face is that kid who gets constantly bullied in the class and these guys they all argue and fight over the popular girl .

    • @reyony
      @reyony  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's such a fun way to put it haha -Anthony

  • @portagasdace21117
    @portagasdace21117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I might be a little bit late, but if anything you should check out the Last Day of Outer Heaven. It's the Closest thing that we will ever get to an HD Conclusion of Metal Gear 1.

    • @reyony
      @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah! Several members of our community have recommended that. We'll check it out, thank you! -Anthony

  • @xbilly_vedovelli1228
    @xbilly_vedovelli1228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    😊🖒❤❤
    now,somethings to know:
    1 : i was really disappointed at first by the twist ending cuz i wanted to play as big boss, then after hearing the tapes and all, i realized how awesome it was
    the final speech infront of the mirror thats actually a 4th wall breaking moment where kojima is thanking us the players, thats his final gift to us, he made us snake!
    2: why did big boss let venom take his place? it wasnt his idea !,( when ya hear the tapes you gonna feel the game complete, it has everything)
    3: the paz hidden cutscene, gather some photos and talk to her to reveal the final scene!
    4 : mission intrude is the mission of the first metal gear game,
    when venom breaks the mirror, the logo changes from diamond dogs to outer heaven, meaning venom is about to face solid snake , and that was the place where he died( explaining a 30 yo plot hole on how did big boss survive,
    he didnt!
    it was venom that died at his place)
    there is a fan made video about it im gonna post the link below)
    5: there is a 2 secret cutscenes
    first : is mission 51 , unreleased mission
    second: is a hidden video which triggers only if us players manage to get rid of all our nuclear bombs,
    kojima wanted to see if us players can work together, to achieve peace!
    it was triggered 3 times , non of them been legaly done tho, konami stated it was hacking and all,
    we r still waiting for peace day !✌
    ____ hope all of this makes yar experience even better, i know it made mine,
    ya should make video where ya hear the tapes and watch those videos, im sure ya gonna like em!
    ___it remains my favorite game of all time, a true masterpiece!😊❤✌
    thank you again for the whole thing, yar lovely ❤✌

    • @xbilly_vedovelli1228
      @xbilly_vedovelli1228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/e1NU_yjOfQ4/w-d-xo.html

    • @xbilly_vedovelli1228
      @xbilly_vedovelli1228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/SxgH4I_6d0Q/w-d-xo.html

    • @xbilly_vedovelli1228
      @xbilly_vedovelli1228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/l4uSkAACoHc/w-d-xo.html

    • @reyony
      @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for all of this additional context. Stay tuned for a bonus episode of our MGSV playthrough! -Anthony

  • @zackfair6791
    @zackfair6791 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No peace (Paz) and quiet for Venom Snake. In a way i kind of wish things ended on a happier note with Venom and those 2 characters.

    • @reyony
      @reyony  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I totally agree, their whole lives were just filled with conflict and suffering. -Anthony

  • @jaxl2983
    @jaxl2983 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Best Prequel ever of all Fucking time

    • @reyony
      @reyony  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah it's pretty incredible. I know there was more that people wanted out of this game, but I'm pleased with what we got. Thanks for watching! -Anthony

  • @eliottdewitt893
    @eliottdewitt893 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video you two are adorbs, i freaking love mgsv

    • @reyony
      @reyony  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the kind words, this game was very special! -Anthony

  • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
    @2yoyoyo1Unplugged 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did you not listen to the tape between Code Talker and Skull Face?

    • @reyony
      @reyony  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah, it's been so long since our streams. I thought we did! Did we? -Anthony

  • @RossOfRoni
    @RossOfRoni 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved seeing y'alls reaction to this game. I had to laugh when Anthony said "Chico," and Audrey instantly said "No no no." I laugh because he got it. Ishmael is Ahab. "I am you and you are me." Ishmael is the Medic, and Venom is Chico. The scenes are memories, and in Chico's own memories, he has Medic standing in for himself. Because, as Ishmael said, "I am you, and you are me."
    If you want to, there is a very deep dive into uncovering the layers of Truth here. If you want to know how V bridges the gap from 1975 all the way to 2005, I've been doing a lot of videos going over it all. (It's on my other channel, @DreamingWeaver.) The crazy part--Chico *and* Medic are both a younger and older version of Gray Fox.
    You two are pretty sharp, and I think you might see where I'm coming from. Hope you're doing well.

    • @reyony
      @reyony  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching and for the kind words! That's really interesting! There's just so much to unpack in these games and I'm excited to revisit this one some time in the future. -Anthony

  • @alonzozegarra2841
    @alonzozegarra2841 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The truth cassette tape is Kojima talking to the player

    • @reyony
      @reyony  ปีที่แล้ว

      It really feels like it!!! -Anthony

  • @bemindful924
    @bemindful924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sad to see this amazing saga come to an end, but happy to see you guys play it with such devotion! By now you know that some missions were repeats of older ones on a higher difficulty because the game wasn't properly finished. In fact a whole chapter was scrapped by Konami. This chapter already had work and time invested in it, but wasn't officially released. However, some of it's script and content is available to see if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/XMuxpHCEYcI/w-d-xo.html

    • @reyony
      @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah, that makes sense! We do have an upcoming bonus VOD where we react to Main Op 51. Stay tuned! -Anthony

  • @kram0113
    @kram0113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    YAY!!! You both finished MGS 1-V 😁👍Congrats to the both of you!!! I have to say that Kaz is STILL my least favorite character in the series. He's the reason why the Real Big Boss, had to let him go. One of the secret tapes in Peace Walker, he contacted "Cipher/Zero". He knew exactly who Paz & Zadornov really were & hid the truth from Big Boss, & he technically has no right to tell Big Boss to go to hell. In fact, Kaz sent "himself" to hell, so he deserved the pain & misery after all he's done to Big Boss.

    • @reyony
      @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for the support! Yeah, Kaz is definitely questionable, but it makes for a really interesting character! Not to mention the incredible performance of the actor. -Anthony

  • @googlynihal1702
    @googlynihal1702 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    who is that fiery scary guy?!

    • @reyony
      @reyony  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait, which guy are you talking about?? -Anthony

    • @8Bitorbust
      @8Bitorbust ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Volgin.

    • @8Bitorbust
      @8Bitorbust ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That smirk.

  • @xbilly_vedovelli1228
    @xbilly_vedovelli1228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    my god cant believe ya actually finish it after all this time.😂
    🖒😊" pretty good" !
    its my favourite game ....like ever lol
    thnx so much for this whole experience, it was awesome i let ya another comment below for everything ya need to know now,
    cuz the full context and experience is what makes this game a
    masterpiece ❤❤

    • @reyony
      @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for coming along with us on this wild ride! -Anthony

  • @kkhyper
    @kkhyper 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    how tf paz is alive?

    • @reyony
      @reyony  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Uhhhhhhhhh spoilers!! Haha just kidding. We definitely talk about it during this stream!! Thanks for watching -Anthony

    • @kkhyper
      @kkhyper 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@reyony oh sorry, i watched the entire video, but i'm from Brazil and i don't understand 100% of english lol (now i'm trying to speak without the google translator)

    • @reyony
      @reyony  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kkhyper Ah, I understand! Well, maybe you can look up a plot summary? We were wondering the same thing about Paz the whole playthrough until the very end. They explain it in that tape recording, but I don't want to explain it here in the comments in case someone watching hasn't gotten there, yet! -Anthony

  • @RIELSG
    @RIELSG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    69%

    • @reyony
      @reyony  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nice -Anthony

    • @RIELSG
      @RIELSG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@reyony that's the spirit

  • @ILLRICARDO
    @ILLRICARDO ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the released the deleted scene from episode 51 from the special edition dvd . do a youtube search for the phantom pain episode 51, SPOILER - Metal Gear Solid V - Episode 51. it ties up all the loose ends with eli, psycho mantis and venom

    • @reyony
      @reyony  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah yes, you're right! In fact, we react to that video in the very next VOD in this MGSV playlist! Thanks for watching! -Anthony