Elon Musk On Climate Change
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Every solution to "solving" climate change:
• Raise taxes
• Transfer more wealth to rich
• Create tax breaks for corporations who "go green"
• Transfer more power to politicians
• Micromanage regular people's lives more and take more of their rights and property away
-never pay back the GHG budget they take to create. Not one.
- corporations have gone insane levels of anti repair actions. While claiming to be green. Millions of functioning or easily repairable devices get tossed in the shredder every year because they refuse to supply basic parts to repair them. Microsoft every time they force a software upgrade all the old devices that are still functional and useable are forced into landfills. Microsoft crows about how environmental they are. None of the alt energy is real so maybe if the solutions are fake, the stated problem is fake? Hidden behind the greenwashing is the pollution at scales never imagined before. As long as they hide the GHG emissions they don't care. EV's last 5 years till the battery is dead and then it's garbage. You can't get parts. Can't even be recycled because of the composite materials and batteries. Polluting at scales never imagined.
Exactly. That alone proves the whole thing is a giant scam. But the sheeple are far too stupid to realize that.
Real
Sounds like this is how they "solve" you instead
It's called Technocracy, and Elon is a Technocrat.
Met a guy 40 years ago who said my boyfriend was evil because he was studying to be a doctor. The guy believed that saving people meant harming the planet.
Do you think he ever went to the doctor?
Like musk said, why didn’t that guy start with himself
Insane
That didn’t happen
Yeah but a doctor can easily help the elite's goal. Imagine this: the same people who preach every day that there are too many people, also want to save every human being using their innovative medical interventions.
We are sick of being lied to and our taxpayers money stolen and going to these activists.
In a constitutional Republic, there is nothing that says you have to give up your rights to ownership of property and your freedom to live and travel at will for the price of taxation… it begins with “WE, THE PEOPLE…” not we the Government. just saying.
So, stop paying taxes...
@@brandonjohnson191 No. Taxes are necessary to have a functioning society, but taxes should only pay for things that are absolutely necessary, like health, police, fire departments etc., not just whatever the government wants.
@@arunmoses2197 All of which is paid by state and local taxes, the fed gov is useless and corrupt, we shouldn't be paying them anything.
Before you mention the military, what is it, exactly, that they've done for our country in the last 75 yrs or so?
@@arunmoses2197Nah, society functioned before taxes existed. Cities existed just fine
Amazing that he never once mentioned nuclear power. The science relating to it has greatly improved and is the ultimate non-polluting resource if properly used.
Well, Musk runs a solar energy company.
He has mentioned nuclear in the past as a superior energy source. It just may not have come up in this particular excerpt.
When will nuclear really become a thing on a large scale though? Even this past year china built 6 times more coal burning plants than the rest of the world combined .
Chernobyl and Fukishima?
@@jasonbarrie9933 Chernobyl was cheap, Russian Tech, Fukushima was an earthquake. Most of the planet is far more stable and nuclear reactor tech has come a LONG way from either of those reactors.
Love the fact check on this video.
Thanks, TH-cam. I almost forgot that thinking for myself is a crime.
Yep, YT is "big brother."
And the irony that the United Nations rarely produces a report worth heeding.
They are always agenda driven dross compiled by special interest stooges.
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There's no fact check on it now, 19 hours later. Did they remove it or is it still there? Maybe I don't see it because I'm on Premium? Althou, that would be even creepier if that's true... I really hope it was an automated process that flagged it and they realized how ridiculous they are.
I know they are still really creepy and ridiculous even if they managed to behave as if they're normal people this time. Hey YT, I'm paying you for now but that's only because you're a monopoly, not because I agree with ANYTHING you say! Can't wait when you finally get woke enough to go belly up. That's the God's honest truth, living inside this progressive henhouse really gets on my nerves sometimes.
Well, I'm lying, make it all the time.
@@Remy4489 they're communists
"People are not gonna care about the environment until their basic needs are met."
Quote of the century in regards to climate change.
whos basic needs are not met? Everyone is massive and fat and doesnt exercise and has unlimited everything. I dont care about about the climate though
@@MA-ik7ys How about getting a passport and visiting others countries besides the USA? Maybe just go South to Latin America? You think the people over there give a damn about the environment? Geez.. The level of ignorance..
@nicholasj5798 ive travelled to around 80% of all countries.
@@MA-ik7ys If that's true your ignorance is even more impressive
Start with ourselves, i mean i choose to be childless for this reason, it doesnt mean genocide. It means eating less meat and not having any more humans that will pollute. we need to educate more people about the joys of not having children
Elon speaks plainly and in simple terms. Gives me sanity! Most people just love their own voices.
Mean while makes billions of the EV SCAM
@@andrewdunlop5771 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
EV's are not a scam, but they need to develop much better materials (especially batteries) to bring them up to the level that they will need to be! Model T Fords, in their day were a great achievement, allowing more of the common people the ability to own a motorized vehicle and not just private vehicle but also farm tractors, trailers, etc., a massive boost in productivity! What kind of gas mileage do you think that a Model T got, not great I'll bet! The current EVs are basically the modern version of Model Ts! The industrial revolution definitely has it's drawbacks but it also advanced humans very quickly despite the growing pains! People who never lived in a horse-and-buggy world romanticize the past, but the truth is that the vast majority of modern people couldn't survive in that world. For instance, infant mortality rates were very high which is why people had so many children in hopes of at least a few of them surviving into adulthood and continuing their lineage! In a large portion of the world that is no longer the case but old habits die hard and the overpopulation is perhaps the biggest problem facing humanity! The planet will likely survive, but the conditions that allowed humans to thrive may alter enough to wipe out the human species! As we seem to be the most semi-intelligent creatures on planet Earth (or at least we think so), the lose of humanity may be a lose to life everywhere (or maybe not) but isn't it best to assume that it would be and act accordingly! 1HW1HC (one Healthy Woman, one Healthy Child) is the only way (IMHO) to fairly and gradually reduce the human population to a easily sustainable level! @@andrewdunlop5771
@@rogerjensen5277 how are lithium batteries made and by whom, how are they disposed of? $60,000 to replace batteries, if you have bought an EV you have been scammed, oh and resale value?
EVs are not ready for market, so they are a scam
@andrewdunlop5771 A perfect example of someone who loves his own voice(comments)..... this guy.
Andrew, you're obsessed with yourself and you act like your opinions are facts.
Grow up buddy.
I agree with Elon "hey buddy, why don't you start with yourself?" In fact their carbon footprint is so huge that taking out the climate summit types that fly their private jets to these evil events would do more than the little people.
…but the west has started with itself. The birth rate here is already below 2. If the rest or the world did the same that would take a lot of strain off the planet
Not to mention the Prime Rib and Lobster they feast upon, while telling us to 'Eat ze Bugs'.
The best thing Musk can do for the climate, Is follow Robin William's last 2 minutes on earth.
That will be his best contribution to humanity.
Me personally think Elon Musk`s folks took the after birth home and flushed the kid, Elon acts and behaves just like an after birth..
There are 70 MILLION more people on Earth each year, you simpleton. The planet is FINITE and too much open space is being trampled, including by "clean energy." Musk claiming that "people are not a blight on the Earth" is a mindless statement, given the vast damage being inflicted on nature. Does the world only exist as a big ant farm to coddle people? Musk is obsessed with more birth for cheap labor, and probably the white birth-dearth (that part's a legit concern).
What!! Lol@@ossiedunstan4419
"I'm like hey buddy, you can start with yourself, you know?"
lmao
People who state the obvious - that there are too many of us - dont propose eugenics or genocide. Its about birth rates. Every person who lives have the full right to live. But I question people who bring children to this world as it is now. Elon have many children, so obviously he would not say that we should have less children.
ONE rich person produces more CO2 than thousands of middle class and lower class children.
We all should take more care of the environment we live in. But that should be done on a voluntary basis, not because some "elites" dictate that, while they fly around in private jets.
Yet you gobble up all the disinformation peddled out by rich libertarian elites like Charles Koch who fund these climate sceptics to protect his business interests
I'll just keep dumping toxic waste in this river then .
Obviously we should do our best to not waste or needlessly pollute. But the climate hysteria is literal chicken little nonsense and has been going on for decades. these people are lunatics who should be locked up.
everythings so expensive so have to but the cheapest and worst for the environment. cause plant food gas is the enemy.
Lead by example. I ride a bike to work, never fly, don't own a car, live in a communal house, and hardly buy anything; it's hard to see how I could have any less effect on the environment. the odd thing is, I don't believe all this climate change stuff.
“Hey buddy, you can start with yourself“😂
When we see beachfront property values fall, we might take notice.
They are not. And the Bidens and Obamas are buying it
I heard a comment said about CO2, "The more CO2 there is in the atmosphere, the faster and bigger trees will grow, since it's what they eat, and this will curb the rise of CO2 while also producing more oxygen for the world. Every action has a reaction and it's not always all about us or up to us to do anything about it. The planet is a big place and it has many equalizing systems."
The planet is big and bad and old enough to look after herself . Mankind's ego is the only thing fuelling this gaslight . Realising we are practically irrelevant is difficult for some , it's called growing up for the rest of us .
CO2 on the other hand is always being added and removed from the atmosphere
through the "carbon" cycle and has come to an equilibrium concentration that is
very small. The human contribution to the atmospheric concentration of CO2 is
minute compared with the natural sources and the scientific evidence points to
warming being a cause of increase in CO2 concentration not the result of it.
(Close inspection of the geological records shows that warming always leads
increase in CO2 concentration.)
Two processes remove CO2 from the atmosphere. THe first is photosynthesis which uses the energy of the sun to undo the "burning process" (oxydation) that
created CO2 from oxygen and carbon. The carbon is added to the plant and the
oxygen is returned to the atmosphere.
The second process takes CO2 dissolved in the oceans and combines it with
calcium to form calcium carbonate (CaCO3) that forms sea shells and other forms of limestone deposits.
Also other carboniforous life forms like shellfish and coral
@@WilbertRobichaud- Just remember that the solubility of CO2 decreases with increasing temperature. So the warmer it gets, the more CO2 is released. So if increases in CO2 actually lead to increasing temperatures then you would just have a death spiral feedback loop and there would be NOTHING that could be done to stop it. So obviously increasing CO2 does not increase the temperature. It’s just that simple and I don’t know why people continue to think that reducing CO2 will change the temperature.
It's not true though.
Plants aren't limited by CO2.
Saving the climate always includes allowing you to destroy it (based on their terms) for a fee.
The elite fly around in the private jets to these climate conferences (instead of ZOOM) and bitch to the rest of us about the environment. Total hypocrites.
Yep. Save the climate. Buy my cars. Buy my panels. Buy my batteries.
Lets listen to Elon, who got his own Roast by 'Some More News' and not to any Climate-Change-TH-camr
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Well yes. That's the market solution. If you wanna limit pollution what you do is you make a market with pollution rights so the pollution that might be necessary to uphold civilization or whatever is "used" in the most economically efficient way. This also leads to the low hanging fruit of pollution reduction beeing done first...
@@paweldSo you would be more happy if he did nothing? He's doing the exact thing you do to actually solve climate change. You use technology and build products that allow people to continue living their lives almost the same as before (ideally better) but has less of a negative effect on the environment and the atmosphere...
You guys have just been fed anti renewables and sustainable energy propaganda by oil companies...
The earth is 4.5 billion years old. It has been through a great amount of climatic changes before humans were even around. The ice age, and times when the earth was too hot to support some life forms, massive flooding, etc.
"THE Ice Age"? There have been several. And let's not forget that we as a species didn't start accurately recording temperatures until shortly after the last "little" ice age in the mid 1800's. Awful convenient to use the lowest temperature in modern history as your "starting" point when you're referring to "climate change" and temperature records.
I reckon, even if the world was totally fucked over for a while, say from fallout or experiments on the atmosphere, eventually it'd become green once again.
4.5 billion years old old? Some people will believe anything.
@@SachelleCambria TIME, doesn't have a start or an end point.
You don't get it - we are the first species to deliberately destroy our own habitat.
Elon is a very smart man. We need some of them in our government
I've lived on a 4 acre a self supporting organic farm as a child. We didn't have to go to the grocery store. We grew and raised everything we needed. What people need is clean food, water, air, and restoring the traditional family bonds. No one has the perfect solution for today's problems; however, we can discuss what solutions we can offer. We can start with agreeing not to dump any more plastics and toxins in the ocean and clean up what we can, including microplastics. In today's political situation, everything becomes agenda driven. We have to create a solutions based communication. There is already a warning on this video, apparently only the so called experts can come up with solutions.
Returning to Middle Ages is not a good solution.
Agreed. I plan to move to a farm and make my life comfortable, simple and responsible as possible
There is an ideal ratio of modern technology (sanitation, medicen, information access) and an old way of life, but no one seems to want it.
I totally agree. Thank you for such a rational and intelligent comment...they are far too rare these days.
Good luck convincing China and India of that
"People are not gonna care about the environment until their basic needs are met." Correct!
Konstantin Kisin gave a speech to The Oxford Union about how half the world does not have an indoor flushing toilet. He said , rightly, that those people would not give a toss about Climate Change until they have the basic luxuries that we in the West already have and take for granted.
That is powerful
@@droccult700 Kisin talks a lot of sense.
Great speech
Well, when was is pinching a loaf, dropping the kids off at the pool, making underwater sculptures, taking the Brown's to the Superbowl, busting a grumpy, glassing the surface, cutting rope, unloading timber, building a log cabin, feeding the French:
The position a toilet puts one in pinches the small intestine. We should all be squatting over a hole we just dug...
@@deductivereasoning4257 You are in the middle of ASDA or Tesco's doing your shopping and you suddenly need a call of nature? Be thankful for that wonderful British invention, the flushing loo.
Cyclic patterns in history have been something man cant create or destroy ...this big blue ball does what it needs
I love how he put the world economic forum in charge of tweeter 😂😂😂
The pulling the ladder up analogy is spot-on, and this happens on a smaller scale too with wealthier people in western countries preaching about EVs to those who cannot afford them, and favouring penalising drivers of non-EVs, when they themselves were driving the most polluting cars 10 or so years ago.
Jordan Peterson is right when he says that the best way to save the planet is to bring everyone out of poverty, and the way to do that is not to ban fossil fuels in the short term.
Yeah he cares about child labour in Cobalt mining or Chocolate production or Asian sweatshops etc? Peterson is vague.
And if you look at the carbon footprint of those elites they aren't following what they want us to do.
Many fly in private jets, have huge yachts and travel far more often then the rest of us. They have multiple LARGE houses and a fleet of cars.
None of them are living life like the Amish. Or even using as little energy as the rest of us.
And how many deaths are directly (and indirectly) attributed to the use of fossil fuels! Nothing is perfect and there is no golden card that will fix everything perfectly! Progress is a bumpy path with many pot holes!
To bring 8 billions out of powerty, we'd need two more planets for all the resources neede.
The best way to save the planet is to stop overpopulation. It’s only overpopulation that’s causing all the shortages and overuse of resources.
Well done for bagging a Musk interview. ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
Still waiting on precise answers on exactly what the global temperature average should be, exactly what the average sea level should be, and exactly what the human population should be, and how they arrived at those numbers. But the only answers I ever seem to get are "shut up and pay for it," and "you want to kill Mother Earth."
Well, there are 57,308,738 miles of land on Earth. Accounting for some of that being high altitude, 2k per square mile sounds okay. 114.6 billion.
I agree. My solution for rising Sea levels is take all the yachts out of the water
If you want to save the ozone layer stop sending rockets to the moon.
Its mother nature simple
@@katr.3065 today 50% of the habitable land is used for all kinds of purposes.
@@katr.3065 This makes no sense. What about farms? What about resources? we are already reaching our peak population.
Of the grid here for 22 years. Propane appliances and a small solar system, works for me on the big island.
You think they'd learn to stop putting FACT CHECKS on videos they don't want us to watch.
If they FC, it means they have an agenda, and somebody with more credibility than them is pointing out their lies.
Yup. Bingo.
YT is full of lies but they're only interested in fact-checking if it affects their agenda.
Pretty much anything climate related gets fact checked.
I posted a graph of tide data going back 170 years, NOAA data, and it received a climate fact check.
The algorithm is not too bright; it paints that warning on anything remotely climate related.
Yep, they changed their pat on the back carbon neutral signal to something slightly different recently
I always look for the WrongThink label, it’s a solid indicator that the video is actually worth listening to.
TH-cam context warnings are the dumbest thing ever.
Thanks TH-cam, I almost forgot that thinking for yourself was a crime.
Not half as dumb as many of the comments here
Such a sensible discussion!
Nice response. More can participate and enjoy benefits by doing so. I seems more organization is needed everywhere.
But, contrary of what he says, solar and wind are not competitive at all and there are no efficient batteries to store energy enough.
Bingo... The only truly renewable source of energy is nuclear
There are now. They are setting up for testing to pull down solar and store it with giant mirrors in space lol it sounds like I made it up but they are working on it now
@@Cafeallday222 they may be working on it but they've been working on cold fusion for as long as I can remember -certainly 50 years-and are only marginally closer to finding a solution.So-do you bet the farm on "something turning up" or do you do what humanity did when we developed commercial electricity and ran scale tests before legislating that nobody could buy candles and had to live in the dark.
@@Cafeallday222 "working on it". There's always some breakthrough just around the corner that will gives us plentiful, affordable energy for at least the last 70 years. Believe it when you see it. Until then, it's just ideas.
Yep, renewable can't keep the lights on, and the environmental cost of the battery solution is as bad as fossil fuels
Sorry but monstrous wind farms or acres of land covered in solar panels is not an arguement for getting rid of power cables
Agreed. No discussion about energy can be had without the inclusion of nuclear. You simply cannot find a better energy source than nuclear.
@@donquijote6030how are you distributing nuclear energy without cables?
@@marlan5470 - What are you talking about? Who said anything about tearing down power transmission and distribution networks (power grids)? They are already in place and would continue to be used as they currently are.
Are you under the impression that renewable power does not need power transmission and distribution lines?
Solar farms have been found to be highly compatible with agriculture. In fact, agri-voltaics is a whole new area of innovation. Many types of crops thrive in partial shade. Also, sheep love the panels for shade and rain shelter.
and usually they have to tear down entire forests/raze the land to install these wind farms...was either Scotland or Ireland just annihilated millions of trees to install wind farms, even though trees literally eat carbon and purify the air...it's not about "climate change" it's about control
Great red spot on jupiter inverted❤
Podcast backgrounds are getting so funny….whats with the random chess board 😂
Interesting there's no talk about the toxic considerations of so called renewables energy, e.g. lithium batteries and the mining that's required for this. Also, once e.g. solar panels are no longer functional, can these be recycled with no pollution? And then there's the bit about how much unethicsl labor and coal was required to produce them in the first place....
hmmm, I hope they aren't avoiding facts to protect their narrative?
This 100%
The climate nuts are paid to ignore all that.
We need to reduce our demand for energy by using simpler tech while increasing the amount provided by renewables. Fossil fuels are a dead end, anything that doesn’t make energy based on natural flows is. The best use of fossil fuels is creating more renewables; EROEI (energy return on energy investment) means every joule of energy from fossil fuels we put into renewables we get several joules out. They may be more intermittent and less portable, but we ultimately don’t have a choice and we need to confront that reality sooner rather than later.
@@Sharukurusu Back to horse and buggies? No thanks. If you want to live like a Quaker -- hey, you do you. But keep the rest of us out of it.
It’s up to each and everyone of us to do what we can. You can’t push your views on other people, do the best you can, and set a good example.
Yep, and just remember, there's a good chance you're wrong.
That's so naive.
And don’t worry about what other people think, and I quite enjoy being naïve. It has served me well and allowed me to take risks which produce rewards
Puberty is rough right, don’t give up GEDDY37..you can still grow a spine. And maybe one day even a Soul
@@antoineroccamora We found the person who supports paying money for it to go to corporations to pay their way to keep ruining the planet!
I'm not sure about the last part of the video: wind and solar + battery is competitive. Is it though? Do we have enough batteries and/or lithium(or whatever material/technology necessary) to make those battieries? Would person producing and selling batteries honest about the costs of all that?
Having more decentralized power is what Elon recommends, like solar panels, wind mills, etc. It takes the threat of power being denied by the government.
On the flipside it raises the threat of power being taken out by privatized companies with no regard for you health and safety as well.
@@TheExegetic Please expand! Privatized companies? You mean for profit energy suppliers? Isn'T that the norm in the US already? On another note: if you can place solar panels on your roof and add batteries to the system you can reduce your dependence on the grid. I think that is a win on itself. I can imagine a village having the needed infrastructure to sustain itself. Why is that so hard for people to think about this?
I have two tiny houses on the same property, and have been trying to learn to live off-grid as a personal challenge. Each tiny house has its own $20,000 solar power plant. I cannot run any electric heaters and am forced to heat with a mix of propane heaters and wood stoves, and in the summer I can only run a single, tiny window A/C. If I get a cloudy day or two in a row, I'm forced to run my generator for hours at night to charge the battery bank so I don't risk dropping the battery voltage too low. I also need to run the generator to power our well pump, which means I have to fill our 40-gallon tiny house water tanks every two days on average. I would need to double the size of the solar power plant to run our well pump from it on-demand. I don't think that solar is affordable or scalable enough for the average person yet. It is very challenging to live without utility power, to say the least, unless you live in a climate that doesn't require full-time heat in the winter to prevent pipes from freezing. I'm up for that challenge on most days, but if I ever get seriously injured or sick, I'm not sure I could continue to live here, especially during the winter.
Thanks for your honest research and factual reporting! Props!!
It may be that you did not source your solar systems wisely. I have two huge houses on each of two properties and have spent US$ 10,000 on each of them (well priced solar panels here in India). One is in an area which receives snow for five months a year and the other for one month. We have no mains connection. I run the generator for a total of one hundred and twenty hours per year. I have no other costs. Only fools use electricity for space heating. I spent a lot of time, not money, ensuring perfect sealing and high levels of IR insulation. I burn just under a ton of wood each year. The wood keeps me fit. I have no problem living on solar. I will never get a mains connection again.
@@goatvision6908 sounds like you’ve dialed it in nicely. Did you source and install all of the components yourself? I hired a company to build out the solar plants, so, perhaps that explains the cost of my systems. I’m not very confident when it comes to electrical work. My heating challenge comes into play if I have to travel. I happily heat almost exclusively with wood while I’m here, but if I’m forced to travel, that’s when it gets difficult for me. I have a propane heater, but not one that I’d trust to leave running while I’m away for more than a day or two, especially if the temperature drops to -5 degrees Fahrenheit like it did last December. My goal is to never go back to utility power again if I can help it, but i still feel that living off-grid has certain challenges that are sometimes overlooked by newcomers.
Sounds like you have energy leaks. Have you double glazed? Are the doors sealed with rubber gaskets? Do you have double aluminised sarking on the walls and ceiling? I triple glazed in one house, there is a lot of shade in winter at that one. The others get more than eight hours of sun so not much heating is needed. The windows must seal properly. Ventilation air must enter after running past passive solar heated walls. I use a glazed verandah to source all vent air. It takes time but when proper insulation is done you will have very little need for heating. Even now at the 9000' foot house we have not lit the fire in the sitting room yet. When it snows we will light a fire. @@stephenmahlstedt8533
You have to do it yourself if you want to remain in realistic budget figures. Consultants will budget to a marginal outcome for you. I returned all the money invested over a period of four years. @@stephenmahlstedt8533
Wind and solar are competitive ? Without subsidies ? I don"t think so. Also the damage from mining the batteries and the disposal of all of the equipment has not been resolved.
Mining does more damage than a thousand EVs can negate.
So how much subsidies do oil and gas get? More than the entire budget for the world's education. Fact
Definitely agree with decentralised power supply… decentralised water supply too
Elon might be the worst electric car salesmen ever. Love his brutal honesty
Electric cars are just better... Lol
Do you know how annoying and expensive it is to maintain a combustion engine vehicle?
@@makisekurisu4674 define better
Then why is everyone else going bankrupt trying to build and sell EVs? Ford and GMs EV divisions are basically bankrupt with massive layoffs and production cuts to stay afloat. Rivian lives on the edge of Ch 11. Most of the pre 2020 Chinese EV companies have folded this year or last. BYD is desperately trying to dump cars across trade barriers at a loss. Nobody wants a Leaf anymore. The S Korean companies just package Chinese surplus into their EVs.
I wish EVs were viable mainstream, especially small economy models, but Musk's gut was right. They are for the BMW, Audi, Jag set as a yuppie status car.
Those cars grew market share in the 80s and 90s from nearly nothing in the 70s, but never displaced meat and potatoes brands.
@@makisekurisu4674ive got a more than 20 year old car and it costs nothing more than the mandatory service before registration, maybe an oil change every now and then. Petrol prices went up recently but thats about the only problem, electricity prices went up too so its not much difference... How expensive is it to replace a battery?
@@enterpassword3313 It's very expensive to replace a battery, but it's also a pretty rare thing to have to do. They're designed to last beyond the lifetime of the car. I do agree that it's not nice to be one of those unfortunate people where it's rendered useless briefly after the 8 year warranty. Hopefully there'll eventually be insurances for such a thing when insurance get enough data to be competitive about pricing on those.
Musk is invested in renewable energy so I’d take what he says about it with a pinch of salt. Zuby is right, you can’t expect working class people and poor people in developing countries to worry about climate change when they are worrying about feeding their family and trying to keep a roof over their head.
Theres a difference between wanting to develop solar and other such power sources and wanting them to be the only ones.
@@zeehero7280
Did I say there wasn’t a difference?
I just pointed out that Musk is invested in renewable energy
elon says renewables cheap then the owners charge more and pocket the profits - power bills are rising not falling
@@jimlofts5433
Exactly 👍
The thing is renewable energy is nice, electric cars are nice, as commercial products. The problem is these became political products. We should remain free to choose which product best fits our own life and fills our needs.
Actually, there are plenty of experts - PhDs in physics, atmospheric sciences and the like - who say we can indeed continue "loading the atmosphere" with carbon, with no untoward effects; that there's no evidence that human release of greenhouse gases is in any way catastrophic.
True
Yes there are some scientists say this - but they are in a small (but well publicised) minority. Do some background research on them & you usually find that their career has been paid for by big oil.
@@duncanbeard9460 So the more than 9,000 PhDs who signed the Global Warming Petition a number of years ago were all being funded by big oil? Grow some skepticism. Dire global warming prediction after dire prediction have been falling like bowling pins ever since the first were made back in the '80s. Just one of many, in 1998 the Maldives were predicted to be under Indian Ocean water by 2018. Check out their Chamber of Commerce - the islands are in fine shape, no sign of *any* threat.
Aw, someone who is actually intellectually informed!
One of the greenhouse properties of CO2 is it reaches a saturation.point where each unit added has a diminished effect on temperature. What the recent increased concentration of CO2 has done is increase the greening of our earth. It also reduces the water requirement of plants to survive.
Co2 concentrations are changing all the time. In spring and summer when deciduous trees have their leaves, they take up co2 for photosynthesis. In fall and winter when they lose their leaves, concentrations increase because the tree are not absorbing co2.
Lol the "context" box.
Thanks TH-cam, for pointing out the official version of the truth. Great job.
The Netherlands is spending 1000 Billion for 0,00007% carbon reduction. People can't pay their bills anymore. The food banks are running out of resources. Energy costs has gone through the roof, everything else like food has doubled or even tripled the past 2 years. Instead making everything so expensive nobody can pay it anymore this money should be invested in research and development.
They have democrats over there to.
You know what happens after an ice age? It warms up.
It warms up? Time. To. Panic.
@@gilian2587 why?
@@xploration1437 Seems to be what most of the big media headlines are telling us to do. It's in fashion. Panic like a good pawn of the larger game.
@@gilian2587 but ol’ Barry and Michael Obama just bought a house on Martha’s Vineyard. On the ocean. Shouldn’t they be worried about the rising sea levels?
@@xploration1437 Garsh... seems like a very bad investment if the sea levels are rising... don't it?
When oceans would get warmer, they would enmit more moisture into the atmosphere, which would in daytime prevent heat from the sun come through.
This effect is measurable and can be felt at night, when windows on cars would tend to freeze.
If the night is crystal clear they build up ice.
In cloudy nights they rather don’t.
The effects a lot stronger at daytime just like a pv system also generates more power during the day vs at night.
Sit down and meditate about your life until you are not there anymore.
I have to wonder if the people radically pushing climate change have ever been to China, India or any other industrial nations and seen what's out there. The US is a drop in the proverbial bucket.
I agree, but I think that is the wrong takeaway from the conversation. That mode of thinking just signifies to the "elites" that they must worm their way into Asia OR twist the screws more in the west. I don't like pointing out to the crazies that not enough is being done. It's like arguing that masks don't work because they still let in virus particles. The argument was just to move to more restrictive masks.
I live in a postage stamp size country (The Netherlands) and our government is killing our economy and taxing citizens out of their nose to “save the climate” 🙄
No, the US is not a drop in a bucket.
@@Couchlover47No, its not. I can go all night.
No, actually I won't go all night.
You are obviously not aware of the fact that China is number one concerining it's transition to renewable energy? They make tremendous progress and are currently much better than the US, EV new admission quote is 20% and raising, and they build solar and wind on a gigantic scale.
holy shit, a climate change just flew over my house
Don't worry, you'll see him again soon next time you get your insurance renewal premium
Jurrassic Park: "Life finds a way."
An environmentalist is someone that already has their cabin in the woods and doesn't want neighbors.
Sustainable energy really drove up my electric rates!
Get some solar panels
Of course it did without our high taxes the lie of ‘sustainable energy’ would be way to expensive to produce, as it is now anyway, that’s what this con trick is all about.. to get the hated rich even more rich on the back of the poorest in society, nuclear energy costs virtually nothing after the plant is built, you could have mini power plants in every city!
Any benefits from global warming are very quickly met with a response from the government such that people are soon conditioned into dreading anything that might be a positive. Imagine not using as much energy because it's a few degrees warmer. Great right? Next thing you know the utility claims they must raise the rates because consumption is down. You honestly can not win when a politician is in the game.
Sustainable energy is much cheaper than alternatives, but at least in Europe electricity rates are priced by "marginal pricing" where the most expensive supplier that meets the demand requirements sets the price. And all the cheaper ones, like solar, just reap huge profits for it.
The climate is and will always be, changing, as it has since the beginning of time.
This is not the hottest nor the coldest it has been, it is a living system that is in constant flux 🤨
The last 10'000 years have been pretty stable though. - Before that humans didn't exist.
But what CAUSED climate it to change in the past?
Look up Snow Ball Earth epoch. CO2 went crazy low -200ppm and earth turned into a frozen lump for millions of years. Now that we know how to manipulate CO2 levels we might be able to avoid next ice age in 50,000 . . . if we don't collapse civilization first.
1st human skeleteon dates back 200K years not 10K@@francoismalan16
@@XHALE303 You really think we burned fossil fuels 200k years ago??? The human made climat changes started in the industrial revolution(200 years ago)
@@francoismalan16 Correlation doesn't equal causation. Also I believe humans have been here for at least hundreds of thousands of years, if not millions.
It makes much more sense the climate changes like the seasons. The "Climate change" narrative appears to me to be a tool of control.
Batteries are great for California, Arizona and Texas but I live above the 49th parallel, not even close to good enough.
With the cost of replacing the hardware factored in, is rooftop solar still cheaper than energy from the grid?
Just a reminder that when Mr. Musk talks renewable energy he manufactures and sells solar panels and batteries.
Exactly.
What are you implying?
In fairness to Musk, it's not the benevolence of the butcher or the baker that keeps a family fed.
Wanting to make money and doing good is not a consistent pairing in a capitalist economy but it’s not entirely incompatible either.
In Musk’s case He also opens sources his tech for others to copy. So he risks putting himself out of business which is a good indicator that he is genuine.
What a complete w@nk comment!
Typical Musk hater!
He sells these products BECAUSE he wants to make the earth better!
How about making your comments on the channels of the Congreeman and women on both sides who do NOTHING ... but fight for the status quo and take the kickbacks from corporations who benefit from mankind NOT moving forward?!
Congrats on getting this level of people to the channel.
For over a billion years. The climate has been changing. And severely reducing CO2 will severely reduce oxygen.
many other factors are involved in plant growth in untended forests, fields and other ecosystems. For example, “nitrogen is often in short enough supply that it’s the primary controller of how much biomass is produced” in an ecosystem, he says. “If nitrogen is limited, the benefit of the CO2 increase is limited…. You can’t just look at CO2, because the overall context really matters.”
Congratulations Zuby! Landing THE LEGEND!
I’m very sure the penguins are waiting patiently for the ice to melt.
I mean years of literally freezing your nuts every day is harsh existence.
But the chilled ocean fish that they get to eat every day... totally worth it!
The good thing is there are no predators.
It's life, Jim! But not as we know it, not as we know it, Captain.
Nice, neat, and necessary.
It’s odd how many different self righteous political movements have the same kinds of solutions. Almost like they’re all just fronts for people who want to control others. Their boogeymen also seem to be the same.
Communism
@@CRB1971lol how ironic. Communism is your boogeyman?
"luxury belief"- I love that term; well put.
One of the greatest Master Minds - one of the greatest influencers and reformers in a century speaking! Love Elon :)
♦ Elon Musk, Pinocchio's stunt double.
A wise and talented man. He might have errors but here he is right.
Right on. Elon will save us all. Believe.
I love Elon. Thank God for him
A smart and dangerous man. And a hypocritical to since the idea of Tesla is based on the fact of climate change . Seems that most people prefer sweet lies above the harsh reality.
@@tctommie68, so he did something that made him a lot of money and you hate him for that. Got it.
One of his lithium ion car batteries emits 15 to 20 tons of CO2 before you even got it in the driveway and that doesn't even include the amount of emfs that a person gets sitting on top of one of these batteries driving around. You're frying not only your body but every cell in it
Wind and solar will never be the answer unless people give up many of the luxuries they enjoy.
Agree 😅😅
Wind and solar are an environmental disaster. The blades of wind turbines cannot be recycled. After 10-15 years solar panels are unrecycleable waste. There are better options.
FUCK THAT!
According to the prestigious International Energy Agency (IEA) the cheapest form of electricity in history is now . . . SOLAR ENERGY!
Who is IEA? IEA is a long-standing, industry-standard, go-to data aggregator and forecaster for all things related to global energy. All the pros in business, investment, government and energy sector use the IEA when they need reliable energy data. Plus IEA is traditionally conservative and favouring energy incumbents like oil, gas and nuclear.
Now they say solar is cheaper. Look it up.
@@douglascutler1037 The problem with solar is NIGHT! The entire gas generating power plant system must be maintained and kept ready to take over as the sun goes down. Until a low cost energy storage system is developed solar will be only half the solution. The IEA conveniently leaves out the nightmare of replacing the solar panels as they wear out.
All the CO2 that we release has allready been in the atmosphere before. The planet was a wast green planet millions of years ago due to the high CO2 levels. As many has allready pointed out CO2 produced by man is just one of multiple factors affecting climate. Its in fact an allmost infinitly complex system which we still dont understand completely.
I was just waiting for him to say “Life, uh… finds a way…”
A sit down with Elon Musk and Randall Carlson about climate change would be interesting.
I’m not adverse to a little climate change. Back when the romans visited my part of the world, they could grow grapes in their back gardens - I’m up for that
But people believe that everything was stable until the industrial revolution. Knowing that the whole system has fluctuated since the beginning ruins the narrative.
Yeah this is the part the alarmists never want to talk about. Even if the Climate did change, for every part of the world that got slightly worse, there would be other parts that would be slightly better off. So it's not all bad for all people.
Canada for example would be far more habitable and with a few degrees more warmth. It would create an agricultural revolution if all those millions of square km's of icy tundra were available for farming.
Russia would gain an appreciable amount of additional farmland if the climate suddenly were to get a lot balmier. There's a lot of potential resources locked underneath a thick layer of permafrost.
You can’t say with any certainty that things would get better because those areas are not adapted ecologically for sudden climate shifts. But we do know coastal regions where trillions in existing infrastructure is built will be devastated, and the people living in those areas will need to relocate which is not easy.
@@Sharukurusu Relocating is not easy. But you do that which is necessary; not that which is easy. Geopolitics has forced relocation on groups of people many many times in history. What makes relocation due to climate change significantly more cataclysmic?
I would really like it if somebody would get a fusion reactor working.
Also the reality of this 'crisis' situation lies in one simple phrase:
Carbon-based lifeform.
"Life finds a way" - Jeff Goldblum
"When it can't, it just takes a bit longer."
Jeff is a commie. Plus his character said that, not him. Don't attribute quotes from a character an actor plays to the actor. It would be better to attribute the quote to the writer...
Renewables are not competitive. That’s complete BS. Without gov subsidies they would be out of business. Dude while sounding intelligent still wants to put money in the bank. 😂
That used to be true and still is for wind mills, but solar panels are competitive without subsidies right now in many parts of the world. So what you’re saying is not really true any more.
Out of curiosity, what have you done? And if you think that people like musk still care about money, you really don't understand how they think. He could have retired at 20 when he sold PayPal.
@@teddybearroosevelt1847 "solar panels are competitive without subsidies right now in many parts of the world"
Where specifically?
Where is this place where they don't care if they lose power every time the clouds come out or it's night time? Where specifically is this magic place so we may verify your crazy claim.
I have Solar on my house and a Tesla Powerwall. I can tell you for a fact that while it is useful at times, it is not a viable replacement for conventional generation which works 24/7/365.
@@gooble69solar on houses offsets the demand on the grid. If everyone had decentralised power generation, we could reduce the amount of centralised power stations. However, that's a far off dream.
I certainly don't think 100% solar, or 100% of any one power source is a good idea. I think we should try to have as many solar houses as possible (without gov subsidies) and then have other sources like nuclear, hydro, geothermal, gas, etc as a backbone to the grid.
@@MightyElemental Cool story. What does this have to do with the topic being discussed?
What is happening in many places is some form of green energy is produced (typically haphazardly and at the cost of natural wealth and without any discussion with the locals) but people buy it for the same price as OIL, because of how the energy cartel runs, hand in hand with the government. Greece is a prime example of this, where a number of oligarchs decide the price between them and people suffer as a result.
They cut the sound near the end
see Princeton physicist William Happer on how CO2 has reached its saturation point rendering any further increase in CO2 unable to materially affect temperature
Co2 is heavier than air.
@@chadparsons9954CO2 is part of air
Hmm….I’m with you bro, BUT technically you are incorrect, CO2 blocks out a certain wavelength (Like painting a window black), the more paint you put on the marginal amount of light seeps thru, so essentially it’s a logarithmic progression…doubling the CO2 has minimal effect on the radiation effect.
Well, yes, indeed, that is a standard explanation.@@vincentdegennaro3375
Thé temperature have raised of 1 degree since a century by sun activity, Milankovitch cycles and other natural activity. The raise drive the co2 emissions not the opposite.
fun fact: developing nations are really nondeveloping nations
From a consumer's point of view: Not cost competitive! Not even close. Plus don't even get me started about all the garbage product that don't do what they claim. Add that to the cost mix and its even worse.
An Asteroid Tax is just as effective...
As my college mathematician professor, Dr. Ian Malcom, once said, “Life finds a way.”
Yes, life as in bacteria and other microbes. You didn’t seriously think he was talking about humans, right????
Life also tends to exploit its environment to the point of unsustainability without any balancing forces.
What happens afterwards is not very pretty.
I thought that quote was from "Jurassic Park"?😊
@@johnchandler1687 Sure enough.
Death finds a way too.
I really love this interview and kept wanting to chat with you guys.! We really do need to decentralized power it's essential to continue thriving especially now! 🌞✨️💛🌈🌍🌈💛✨️
As an engineer Elon Musk should know that infrared active trace gases like water vapor (upto 4% H2O) & CO2 (just 0.04%) in the atmosphere is converting heat (molecular kinetic energy) into radiation (infrared) and emitts it isotropic into space. That process COOLS the atmosphere!
It's ok... the context banner tells me what to really think.
“We don’t see the dinosaurs now… But they had a good run for over one hundred plus million years” - Elon Musk
Love it 🎤
💥
Lol. Dinosaurs were invented in the 1800's. Do you also still believe that Santa Claus is real...?
Just imagine how bad those Dino Farts must have been 😂
Aren't chickens living dinosaurs?
@@robertanderson5092 yup, all birds are.....
Dinosaurs would still be alive today had they developed science and technology capable of deflecting distant asteroids. Just like the NASA DART Mission recently succeeded in doing.
Seems like a pretty down to earth guy. I also like your speech as well, zuby. As always😊
@@Mikael-jt1hkcyclists are the worst people on the planet.
down to mars
He's a billionaire bully without a moral compass. Not my idea of "down to earth".
@@paweld well, that can’t be any further from the truth. Unless you hate having rights like most fascist leftists.
Walter Issacson and Claire Boucher said he has a demon mode, which he agreed about.
I worked for a company growing hothouse tomatoes. We had tanks pumping CO2 into the greenhouses because it increased tomato yields.
In response to plant growth increasing in the world, with likely the increase in carbon dioxide being a main factor, they said it's actually not going to be a good thing. They are extremists and impossible to deal with. Those at the top have an agenda. Activists have disorders, most are depressed in their lives, so they need to fill their lives with purpose.
"People are not gonna care about the environment until their basic needs are met." People not having their basic needs met aren't having a massive impact on climate change. Those aren't the people that need to change behavior.
Question for Elon: how's energy supply in South Africa evolving? Towards pre-industrial levels, it seems.
I’m not a climate skeptic at all. I’m a “solutions” skeptic
All that means is that you have your eyes on the right ball.
Why not? It's the climate that is being used as a vehicle to implement those 'solutions'.
@@andrewstewart9263 Mostly because it's much harder to prove that there's a problem with the science. Even if you agree with Richard Lindzen over Michael Mann -- no individual has a prayer of knowing more about climate science than either of these two individuals. Assessing the quality of the solutions purported to be the solution to the 'disease' -- this is a far easier prospect -- and it more directly correlates to your checkbook.
Solution to climate change: use the cheapest source of energy. SOLAR.
According to the prestigious International Energy Agency (IEA) the cheapest form of electricity in history is now . . . SOLAR ENERGY!
Who is IEA? IEA is a long-standing, industry-standard, go-to data aggregator and forecaster for all things related to global energy. All the pros in business, investment, government and energy sector use the IEA when they need reliable energy data. Plus IEA is traditionally conservative and favouring energy incumbents like oil, gas and nuclear.
Now they say solar is cheaper. Look it up.
@@douglascutler1037 Only when you ignore capacity factor.
Yep.
Have you considered research into enhanced conductors?
we are not expecting just nothing to happen from all the carbon... we are expecting it to be good for life... to have more of the base block for life, to be available to life is a good thing... banning carbon, from Earth's environment is like banning lego blocks in Lego-land.
Awesome 🤘🏻
Well said Mr Musk👍🏻
It's funny hearing some of the oldest countries and civilizations being called " Developing Nations"
What are the factors creating climate change and how are they being addressed?