Tesla paid every cent back, with interest. This video is ridiculous, and a hit piece like all other media looking to shut down an individual that has created electric transportation, reusable rockets, put American astronauts on ISS without having to catch a ride on a Russian rocket, which the states has had to do now for decades, is boring tunnels to alleviate life sucking traffic, developing technology to help people walk again, see again, hear again and get their lives back. Oh, and that whole multiplanetary species thing. You know, no biggie. Here is the guy who started a handful of companies that are collectively trying to pay gunshot forward to a better place, and everyone is sh!tting on the only places not corrupt to their core that are trying to DESTROY your country! I've always known the effects of propaganda given the resign of Hitler, Stalin, et al, but to watch it happen in my lifetime, in real-time, right in front of me, is mortifying to the core. You know how you all say, and agree, that the government can't be trusted, and how they're out to make your life worse? Well why do you think they're putting out an ENDLESS barrage of negativity about someone actually trying to DO something about it? Elon has been tapped to lead the Department of Government Efficiency. Do you even know what that means!? It's the VERY thing that's going to make your life, and the country, what it CAN be. Please, for the love of all things wonderful, look at how many industries, including government, are being disrupted by Elon and Co. and ask yourself why there's such a huge target on him. This is NOT the time to not think. You MUST look at the ACTUAL truth. It's so important right now. Please. I'm begging you to look. Your country is about to be destroyed, and you can't even see it. If north America is destroyed, the world is destroyed. And it will be too late by the time you realize what you just did by being ignorant, and then you'll live in a hell on earth.
I was an autopilot tester at Tesla and was fired less than a month after whistleblowing the lack of safety for the public while testing on public roads.
I've been driving FSD since 2020. 12.5.4 works exceptionally well. My Tesla Model Y is an amazing car. I'm also a Tesla investor. Musk's political foray is a complete and shameful failure. Buying Twitter was a dumpster fire. His tantrums and obscene outburst against companies that don't want their advertising associated with racist, neo nazi and anti semetic rants are inexcusable. I think FSD is very safe and only getting safer. But yes, there should be an open evaluation of FSD. Instead what's happening is Tesla doesn't advertise, so even most of the 90% of Tesla owners who don't have FSD aren't aware of what it can now do, and how safe it is. Against FSD is misinformed often clearly biased reporting. This doesn't work for anyone. If FSD has a risk, from my 45,000 miles of using it, it is at the fender bender level. I would argue that the stats prove how safe it is, but I don't think everything is available and none of it has been independently verified. With 3 million Telsas now on the road, all of which use some part of FSD, if there was a serious safety issue it would be well known about. Musk's politics are inexcusable and shameful. If his compensation package were to be put to the Tesla shareholders now, he would lose. Who knows how unhinged Musk is going to be after Americans reject Trump's fascist rantings and threats. Many of Trump's supporters after the 2020 election committed felonies and are serving prison time. I hope Musk wakes up and gets back to his important work.
Love people who speak truth to power! And we need a whole lot more of that in this day and age. At least we have this channel, David Pakman, Leeja Miller, Jeff Tiedrich, Michael Moore, Bernie Sanders, Robert Reich, Lucian Truscott...
😊it's easy to point out what's wrong because all you have to do is walk outside and look the real challenges a solution to what we face as a human it's not mankind it's not woman kind that's just another way to keep the division growing a 5 year old knows right from wrong it comes down to the choices we all make stop paying attention to these people and they will go away stop pointing out all the problems offer a real solution the two greatest Pursuits in humankind Sex and Money I can understand why sex is so attractive and wanted but money that just doesn't make any sense and you'll probably think I don't know anything about that and I really don't know a lot but I did get a PhD in economic Sciences and money's not an economy people are an economy and divided people they're broke financially morally and spiritually the most disconnected
Is there enough time? You may need to pass this mission on to your children and future generations to get it all covered. Sadly, it seems like we now expect and accept our judges, congresspeople, and even presidents to be full on criminals that take bribes, fail to do their jobs, and mostly seek to empower and enrich themselves at the tax payer expense, while competing with entertainers for perversion and partying.
When you understand macro economics, and you begin to realize how things that are valuable are only valuable because we collectively think they are (assets, stocks, companies, currency even), you begin to realize that all Elon has to do to get rich is, not be some quirky genius savant, but just make people think he is. And he's nailed it
If it were only so simple. The stock market is not as dumb as you make it out to be. Results matter, and Elon Musk's companies are producing results and coming up with innovations that would have been science fiction 20 years ago.
As they say, "I have no heard Elon say, "I'm a self-made man". Without reference to anyone, it is said that the trouble with all self-made persons is that they can't remember all those who helped them make it.
When Elon talks about just 'getting' investors with phone calls it really helps a lot if you are already part of a family worth almost a Billion $ (30 years ago too). His father helped much more than with $20000 loan while Elon was slumming it for a couple years to avoid South African military service.
yes there is a way which is not through corruption..not all rich people are criminals. Riches start with God who is super rich in more ways than humans can imagine. What do humans understand about anything? almost a zero .
It would be worth mentioning that he went to the most prestigious schools in South Africa, Canada and the US. So 'calling a few investors' is quite easy when you already have the connections.
Also, what investors are we talking about? 200k for zip2? 200k? Really? Many middle class parents buy apartment for their kids that is more costly lol. Millions of people have 200k in their bank account. And they buy apartment and rent it out - and nothing wrong with that, i am doing the same, we are not all meant for great things.
That's like saying "yes I went to Harvard and I talked to every rich person there and they all gave me their numbers and liked me". That's maybe exaggerating the issue a bit but it's not that easy - you don't just know who has what.
Which was a business investment that he rolled into millions, which he later rolled into more millions, which he later turned into billions. Your emoji makes you look like an id.10.t.
@@t.o.o.smooth5870 Ahh yes you are one of those dolts who thinks he did it all own his own. He absolutely admires idiots like you because it makes him richer. Deepthroating that boot will get you far in life.
@@t.o.o.smooth5870drinking the cool aide? Yeah, and Ben Franklin showed up in Boston with only 2 cents! You believe the story of all shameless, self promoters? Trump, am I right? 😉 Never met a Rich person who didn’t get multiple handouts from their parents when they needed them? Even if they hated their parents. Myth of the self made man… Start with NOTHING, always helpful to define nothing. It’s easier to risk it all, when you know you have a net, and you don’t give a shit about other people. Like father, like son
I like the part where he came to start college with only $2000 ( It use to be $10 but with inflation, the story is the same ) and then when he needed more he just tap his fathers fortune. It always make for a better story when you start from nothing. Just like all other self made billionaires, it doesn't do you any good to look to far behind the official story.
not truth. as Elon musk well aware his life will end way before connecting the dots : that most of his investment and super hard work will show any final outcome or as claims like you fall to see rather sad how such amazing picture ppl missing so much when all they can see is the frame only and massing with such tiny cognitive narrow thinking bigger picture and you focus over shape of outside frame wen long after he die - will be only the beginning GUYSthanksdocthanksdocthanksdocthanksdoc
It reminds of one interview of a millionaire (the story is from many years back when being a “millionaire” was a big deal) when asked where he made his first million…….the answer……in- heritance. At least he was honest.
It's certainly not a new phenomenon. In Sweden we had Ingvar Kamprad - the founder of IKEA. Ingvar did start the company himself (1943) but the basis for his eventual success was off-shoring production which led him to the flat packages to cut costs. Throughout his life he maintained the image of a frugal leader who flew coach and lived a life without extravagance because he was a man of the people. In reality he lived in luxury (mostly in Switzerland) and used all tricks he could to avoid paying taxes: IKEA had it's headquarters moved to the Netherlands and the company transformed into several companies both non-profit and for-profit allowing capital movement to avoid paying tax. Many Swedes still believe he was a hero.
Thank you so much for the explanation. I always wondered how a High tax country like Sweden would allow a single man to become a multi Billionaire like the founder of IKEA. I always thought that he either moved the tax residence of his company to a more tax friendly country or he is getting major tax breaks from the Swedish government. Your story did not disappoint me.
@@danwelterweight4137 Thanks! Interestingly Sweden combines having low wage gaps (though they are increasing) and among the highest level of billionaires per capita. It's a paradox.
I always giggle when he tried to claim that the whole thing about his family owned Emerald Mines in Apartheid-Era South Africa was just something his critics made up - then his own dad popped into the conversation with "not only is it true but your sister is sitting right next to me wearing some of our emeralds right now, lol".
@@TellusJD I do get reject shit by throwing the tribal ball when - A.) You buy it because you picked up the tribal ball. -AND- B.) You'd done absolutely nothing that points to the idea that I should take your opinion seriously. This is all public record, you alt-right sad boi. I'm only mentioning his dad first because it's the funniest. Are you going to cry about it? Is someone going to need to call the Wa'ambulance?
Hearing this, I can't help but think that the biggest parallel to Elon Musk is Ray Kroc, especially insisting on being called "the founder" of a company other people built and eventually pushing out the actual founders. As much as he talks about wanting to be this futuristic visionary, I wonder if he got a copy of a book about McDonald's and decided to copy that method.
Watching McDonald movie on netflix I must agree that he was much more the founder than the original 2 guys who apart from founding a single restaurant had management style that would simply not scale beyond their one single restaurant. Being engineer myself I don't have problem with it. Engineer is hardly ever a perfect founder. A good manager more often is. And great engineers usually know it. It's typically only bad engineers or low level average joe workers who envy succesful managerial founders who take their idea and manage to upscale it. It's Ray Kroc who made McDonald's into millionaires - without him - they'd be failed businessmen struggling to pay hospital debts.
@@The_Real_Grand_Nagus uh they didn’t “invent the Roadster.” I’ve been invested in tesla long before you ever heard of Elon musk or tesla. In fact they invented nothing and contributed nothing other than the original pre-Tesla proof of concept vehicle. One of us made millions off our knowledge of what’s actually happening at tesla. How much you want to bet that person is you? I wouldn’t bet on it personally only because I know better. Before this twitter nonsense my $400k investment had an u realized gain of $5m. Even though it’s down a lot this year I’m still up more than you ever will be, because you believe fake news. Move along child.
@@barbarjinx3802 - watch the video again and again, until you get it: Elon Musk does nothing but total self-promoting on the propaganda circuit - NOTHING of real value. An evil asshole as so many employees can attest to. Maybe you will get it one day...
Typical. (As they "age..." the narcissist's 'mask' begins, to slip... as well as the lies, upon lies... become increasingly harder to "cover for..." as the cons pile- up, then begin to "unwind...") And many are hiding behind the Aspergers, bipolar, etc. "cover stories.") Musk also showed- up recently at a Hollyweird party in a Balphomet "costume." (So is he looking for more "deep pocket" investors, attention, validation and admiration... or: is he also a NWO Luciferian- Set/ enanist??? I suppose: "time, will tell?!")
His grandfather J.Handelman was a conspiracy theorist and anti semite who led a fascistic anti semitic party in Canada and another party that wanted to establish a totalitarian theocracy ie where society is run by engineers and scientists not politicians. He migrated to South Africa two years after it enacted an Apartheid system, later saying that he was encouraged to move because of their policies and that he believed South Africa would lead the fight of "white Christian civilization" against the "International Conspiracy" (meaning Juwes) and the "hordes of colored people".
I always like to highlight that he was fired from PayPal (before it was actually PayPal) on his day off. He was on vacation. Not that it necessarily implies anything more, but it's a call back to the movie Friday. "Damn Craig, how the hell you gonna get fired on your day off?" It is kind of funny that he found out he was fired when his flight landed in Australia, and he hopped on the next plane back to Cali. So he got off one 18+ hour flight just to turn around and get on another back to where he came from. And I like to bring up his move to Canada was partly to avoid mandatory military service in South Africa. I don't have a problem with that personally, but it's a jab at his right wing fan boys who do.
Yes, his plan was to revolutionize banking and his business partners just wanted to see money coming in so they got rid of him. This is why he likes to have control over his companies, so that they don't get distracted by quarterly profits and work toward solving much bigger problems
"He was on vacation. " Not just on vacation... he was on his honeymoon for his first marriage. This is probably why he doesn't go on honeymoons anymore. "Yes, his plan was to revolutionize banking and his business partners just wanted to see money coming in so they got rid of him. " The video covers it. Musk was a narcissistic shitgibbon who was reportedly difficult to work with. In addition to what JT correctly says in the video, he insisted that the company be named after his old "X" company, even though consumer surveys consistently showed that "X" was seen as associated with pornography, making it a terrible name for a bank. Additionally, he insisted on using Windows framework when the rest of the board preferred the more stable Linux framework. Things like this add up, and the board fired him while he was on a plane heading to his honeymoon. I mean, come on, at what point has he ever actually revolutionized anything? SpaceX is just building old NASA gear and renting it back to NASA. He didn't invent the Tesla cars, Eberhart and Tarpenning did. The Boring stuff is just old crackpot ideas from the 1800s. The closest he's ever come to actually inventing something useful was when he made Zip2 with his brother in the mid-90s- and even that was super flawed and required outside help to make work.
All good points. He was fired for incompetence, given stock as severance, and then the company went gangbusters because they took out the trash, and then his severance in stock made him rich.
here the thing, you can do what he did too, paid someone to spread a rumors about you being "the real life iron man" or something absurd like being "superintelligent", having "photographic memory". as long as it didn't come out straight from his mouth, nobody could debunk him or accuse him anything. also, if you want an illusion of being a genius, here are some tips for you, Hire the best people you can hire, there are over 1.000 of smartest people in his companies, he can talk to them one by one, steal what they said, their thought. and when you're talking with other people or in media, use their ideas as if it's yours. by doing that, people will mistake you as a genius, when in reality what you did was quoting your employees ideas. because there are 1.000 people in your company, nobody will be able to figure it out whose ideas it was. your new hires and intern will also mistaken you as a genius. when caught red handed, create a story where the guy who caught you is the villain and you're the hero. make fun of them, make them into meme, and rally your supporter to attack them. this is the Masterclass of being a Toxic Sociopath like Elon
Yep. I think his stupid behavior is finally catching up with him. People are seeing that it's unhinged and deranged, not the "cool, edgy, and funny" that people were thinking before. The failure of Hyperloop and the horrible performance of Tesla cars over a cold holiday-weekend in Chicago is also hitting home, not to mention the fact that he is running Twitter into the ground and it can't be spun any other way. It's been a rough couple of months for Elon and the media is finally not sugarcoating it. Oh, one more thing. His "awesome" Starship can't get out of the atmosphere without exploding. We're all supposed to forget that the last Starship launch was supposed to end with a full orbit and a re-entry vehicle parachuting to a nice soft landing in the Atlantic. In reality, it didn't hit 1/4 of its mission milestones before exploding like a nuclear bomb. If this was a NASA project, it would be dead and Congress would be furious at the waste of time and money (Starship has been in development since 2013). The Elon-simps poo-poo the fact that Artemis went to the moon and back, and landed its capsule in the Pacific on-target and in perfect shape ON ITS FIRST LAUNCH.
What I learnt so far, any billionaire saying they are doing good things and they don't need money is a liar. Their ego is over their head, they want praises and attention.
What you should have learnt is that you are not a very good judge of what is true and should try harder. Just because you are told things as if they were true does not make them true.
'saying they are doing good things and they don't need money is a liar. Their ego is over their head, they want praises and attention.' you mean like the guys that made this video?
Musk, above all, is a performer. He plays this “nice pal to have a beer with and happens to be a visionary” role almost to perfection. That’s how I always saw him: a performer focused on his own image; practically no credit to all the others he needs for doing the actual job.
@@williamcook1342 did you not see how he's fired a ton of people recently or how despite his black employees being the targets of harassment and hate crimes, he did nothing to stop them. Not even a company memo. Considering he grew up in South Africa during Apartheid, was born into wealth thanks to his dad's emerald mine. He wants to sell this image of "I'm just like you, except I did it. I became a billionaire." When he is nothing like normal people. He's nothing but a racist con artist. The most successful con artist in the world, but that's like being the best smelling pile of crap in the world.
@@williamcook1342 It's really easy to stand in front of a podium and say that you provide for your workers. The information however says otherwise. While he talks a good game, he doesn't actually show any appreciation for his workers.
I think it's time that the worlds richest man pay us back the $10billion that taxpayers gave him, that saved him from bankruptcy. Instead of using that wealth to subvert our democracy .
On the other hand -- Tesla single-handedly shifted the entire world automobile industry in an EV direction after GM ("Who Killed the Electric Car") blew it. And he made the USA the world leader in EVs -- for a time. And he paid the government loan back. it was money well spent.
@@123axel123 You don't even know what entrepreneur means. Musk is the antithesis of an entrepreneur. He's a rich kid who used his money and position to get away with being a criminal.
@@123axel123 I think the irony here is that Elon has spoken out about how only lazy people take handouts, he has bashed philanthropy and social programs, all the while he got a lot of handouts. So its more about Elon the hypocrite than anything else.
Yeah but most people have ire towards poor people who they think abuse handouts, meanwhile the people who really impact the world evade criticism/ire for taking advantage of handouts for personal gain.
This man really is the definition of "failing upwards". When you come from money and have connections - how do you even fail? Just get investments, build something that half works, claim it's revolutionary, sell that business to dumb money (absolutely no shortage of this). What aspect of any of this is difficult? The hardest part is the initial money and connections. If you're born with that you can be a fool and succeed. Happens all the time.
There have been significantly richer people throughout history and none of them have launched multiple multi-billion dollar companies. Heck most rich kids don't amount to anything. Build something that half works; say the best selling car model in the world or a company that deploys more payloads to space than all other entities combined or the largest battery storage supply in the world. Yeah that's really easy that's why no one else has done it. But hey as long as you have connections you can achieve anything!
@@raghavkaushal7561 What kind of stupid question is this? How would any of us know if he's an honorable person. We see what the media wants us to see. Do you know him? Of course you don't. Are you honorable? Bashing people in TH-cam comments isn't a characteristic I would attribute to an honorable person.
@@dh9030 If you actually do a bit of research, anyone with a rational mind and the ability to think critically will have no other choice but to come to the conclusion that Elon Musk is anything but an honorable man. Elon has often lied about his accomplishments in the past and has taken credit for things he didn't actually do himself, and concepts that he claims were his "original" ideas that have in some cases been around for 100 years. There is irrefutable evidence of this! You say that we only get to see of Elon Musk what the media want us to see, ironically you are somewhat right in that statement but not in the way that you might think that you are. You see Elon has worked hard over the years of crafting the image of the "genius" billionaire philanthropist that just wants to make the world a better place. This is an image Elon has been quite happy to feed to the media and has helped them continually perpetuate it, because Elon has a very fragile ego that needs constant validation. Yet the truth about Elon is that he is not even close to being a genius, and also not close to being a philanthropist either. What he is however is a ruthless business man, who has time and again proved that he is not above stepping on others to futher his own success.
This "good billionaire" grift is the oldest trick in the book. He has a very hard working PR team and a lot of people are gullible enough to eat it right up like good little sheeple.
@@SeanMetellus doubtful. He lies a lot, so why would you believe a claim that he doesn’t have a PR team? He’s sure managed to rewrite history, and his money talks.
Bernie made a direct jab at Musk saying...” why should rich people get tax credits for their pet projects?” Referring to Musk trying to get government handouts for SpaceX.
The government provided money to Elon's projects because they saw it as a good investment into the nation's own industrial independence and job creation, if they didn't do so, both Tesla and SpaceX would likely die, but in the same manner as the government subsidies in South Korea helped companies like Samsung become a major player in electronics and job provider with large positive economical impact on the nation, even (some) Elon's projects are seen as a way to compete with fast-paced competition which also receives support like many successful companies in Asia. Without supporting promising US companies whatever through tax breaks or direct investment from the government, the US would be unable to compete with other nations doing exactly the same, as many promising companies like Tesla or SpaceX would die before achieving self-sufficiency which would leave the US economy even weaker and dependent on foreign goods and services in strategically important sectors like transportation,whatever terrestrial or extraterrestrial...
@@johngalt0096 actually i'm not out of my mind. you are simply disconnected. they are all grifters my dude. bernie, mitch, graham, all of them. the republicans and democrats are all controlled by the same multibillionaires banking apparatuses, and NGO's. Bernie sold out a long time ago. you've been psyoped.
Didn't Elon also call for an end to all government subsidies after taking billions in government subsidies? An estimated 4.9 billion back in 2015 per the Los Angeles Times.
He also got billions in transportation subsidies in the last couple years and a nice piece of the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill for his fraudulent Hyperloop project. Now that Hyperloop is dead, he has to pay that back, right? {crickets}
A list actor as Welfare Warfare King Dumps waste on Natives. Let them manage it for 7 generations and called IT Philanthropy See nuke waste by the 10 dump on Australian AbOriginals Seems THEY don't want them talking EITHER. LIKE HOW THEY SURVIVED ON AUSTRALIA SO WELL WITH SO MANY ANIMALS AND HABITAT IN THEIR STATE? CLOWN COLON Ism Any ISM shall do.
So the more interesting story is how Musk could raise all that money with just a few phone calls. I'm sure it's just a coincidence he had a wealthy well connected father and family. Anyone can just pick up the phone and raise 22 million right?
It’s really not that difficult. You just have to find a phone book somewhere and start making calls. You definitely need the phone book though. Most of the people with their numbers in the phone book are going to be elderly. Then you just have to convince them that you’re their grandson and you’re in some legal trouble, and that the only way out of it is for them to transfer you whatever money they have. Then you promise those “investors” that you will pay them back once your legal case has been sorted out. This is where the elderly thing comes in again, because hopefully they’re not around long enough to realize that you’re not their grandson. By the time their children come for the money, you’ve already shut down that business and moved on. It’s just too bad for them that their parents invested their life savings into a failed tech startup, but whatever, you’re rich now so who cares.
when you're shaping a narrative, you need to be selective. super sus.... to be fair, he should do a hit piece on all the other billionaire entrepreneurs.. like how bezos and Amazon has taken advantage of USPS....
. No when you don't do research it is Sus. Thunderfoot chanel rips Elon Musk for his bad Ideas but he has receipts. Repeat talking point of corporate Coups as facts and speculative News articles as sources is sus. Why not have Alex Jones read this. Elon Musk is making the frogs gay.
SEC FRAUD.... In 2018, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) sued Musk, alleging he falsely announced that he had secured funding for a private takeover of Tesla. To settle the case, Musk stepped down as the chairman of Tesla and paid a $20 million fine.
I've been skeptical for a long time that a person can be a billionaire. If a billionaire's wealth is based on shaky corporations, family businesses and un-transparent partnerships, his net worth may look good on paper, but if he tried to sell it all and get real money, the worth will plummet.
You and I are both thinking incorrectly, I'm just a guilty as you for doing this but you just said it. Rich people have a different concept on how to use money. That saving money as money is true wealth this isn't correct. If you take money out of the system you are rich and the worth will plummet but that just money, it would never increase or decrease in worth. That billion dollars you have in actual money will be a billion dollar 100 years later and that's why we are thinking incorrectly in this. If you tie it up in stocks or products, it's still money but it can increase or decrease depending on the stocks and the dividends will eventually make you money. It's the same think what Elon is doing but in companies instead. Take a really poor example logan paul and pokemon cards they were worth say $100 dollars and then Logan pushed it out to $1000 dollars making it 10 times the worth sure you got to find someone to buy it and transfer it into stocks or actual money but that's where the value changes in assets.
You mean that you don't think a person can ethically earn enough money and influence to become a billionaire, but plenty of people actually can access that value in liquid assets. Elon Musk definitely isn't the richest person by the amount of liquidity he can access (he probably isn't even the richest by net worth if you include people who actually try to hide their wealth or people who effectively own countries) but he definitely can turn a large chunk of his net worth into liquid assets fairly quickly.
Strange how Elon timed his move out of South Africa with the age of mandatory service in the military. It is almost as if Elon was dodging the draft just like rich people here did during the Vietnam War....
@@GeraintDafis You're missing the point. Rich people have the privilege to do so. Few others have that luxury- and the rich and privileged will again benefit on the backs of those who fight the wars, do the hard work, and the heavy lifting.
Draft dodging is good actually. I've more respect for draft dodgers of Vietnam, Korean War and WW2 than the shitheads who agreed to kill for Wallstreet and City of London. Musk is a con artist though.
Can't skip the fact that he grew up in a very affluent childhood. Or that Zip2 founding team included to expreinced business men with connections to his dad. Also people ignore his mothers weath as her family was also very wealthy.
@@jasonjacksn she was not that wealthy. Nor was the father. They had money yes, but they were far from billionaires like what Elon became. If anything the affluent culture he was exposed to, contributed more to his success then the cash itself.
@@jonjeskie5234 show me where I said they were billionaires? And I also mentioned his fathers connections but I guess you ignored that part. His dad had the biggest house in the most expensive area in S Africa so he was still rich
@@jasonjacksn the point is that it's still a pretty far leap to go from where he started to where he is now. There are plenty of "affluent" kids who never see 1/100th of his success... in fact most don't.
@@OM-et1bpTesla batteries are made in Tesla Gigafactory / Tesla Gigafactory 3 under management/supervision by Samsung and/or CATL. Yeah tesla started the current EV boom and publicly shared their patent so competitors could more easily join and compete in the current EV market.
Yeah, makes me wonder how come we are aloud to enjoy this segment two years later and after the fact, that Elon used our taxpayer money to push and show on Twitter to get Donnie back to our House!!….bleah!! 🤮
The narrator of THIS video is the same guy who creates amazing videos (like this one) and uploads them every Friday morning on his Second Thought TH-cam channel. I have no idea what his name is, so I do wish More Perfect Union had given viewers his name and a link to th Second Thought channel.
Me too. Never heard of that channel til I read the comments. Thx for at least explaining what second thought is. I wasnt sure if it was the guy or a project or what.
Recommend Second Thought, Our Changing Climate and TZMChannel for all those who are critical thinkers and care about the sustainability of the planet and humanity going forward.
He has been laying the path to presidentship since he arrived in the US. This obsession for popularity is just for that. There's no other explanation as to why he needs such a huge fan following especially the youth.
@@TheRABIDdude Then why not make Soros the president of the world? Lol. If being rich is the only qualification, even saddam hussain was rich. So are you going to justify what he did?
@@samanyakumar you misunderstood what I'm saying. In your comment you said "there's no other explanation as to why he needs such a huge fan following" [he must be planning to become president]. I am countering that conclusion you jumped to. I am suggesting that his motive for gaining a ridiculously huge fan following was to use it to become the richest man in the world. As the video explains, his method for wealth growth was developing hype so that people would invest in him. That is the reason he obsessively inflates his fan base. It gains him wealth.
@@TheRABIDdude musk has an unhealthy obsession with pleasing the twitter crowd, as evident by him spending like 19hrs a day on twitter. He is not a genius. He just has the money to begin with since his dad own an emerald mine in south africa. I've followed his tracks since he was ousted by paypal in the 2000s, to him lying about being a co-founder of tesla, to him secretly meeting with US enemies china and russia, to today. And I promise you, he is just an idiotic insecure manbaby with no backbone with alot of money. And the fact he now has sway over the US government to an extend, is really a bad news for the entire american populace no matter if they're democratic or republican.
There's a channel called Common Sense Skeptic worth a browse. In particular, his debunking of SpaceX. Really eye-opening. The uploader seems to have a bug up his ass for Musk, that's for sure, but he uses Musk's own words and data (and basic mathematics) to absolutely destroy the notion of any kind of settlement on Mars. Overall, it left me with the impression that Musk might well be a visionary, but not a smart one, not a man who's ever said "Here's my idea, shoot it down so we can refine it into something workable". Ever. And his more recent antics on Twitter just plop neatly beside that, revealing Musk to be stunningly narcissistic and quite possibly dangerous! At the very least, he's a total douchebag. I mean look at the names he gives his kids. Who tf does that? "Say, what's your name, little girl?" "My name is X134YD23 Musk." "No but seriously."
He probably does have a very high IQ. He’s got bachelor degrees in physics & business from a very good school. But there’s a difference between being ordinary smart and being a genius. Musk is able to keep ahead of the rubes because he knows just enough math & science to sound like he knows a lot more than he actual does. He’s a little like Star Trek that way. He spouts a bunch of gobbledygook using real science words & people can’t tell the difference.
Of course not. If you're rich, you're a bad person. If you're super rich, you're just evil. You can't get money without taking it from somebody else and stepping on them. That's just how it works, right? No further thought need be given on the subject. It's simple. Elon Musk is super rich because he's evil, and he does evil things to hurt people. That's the only thing that matters, and you shouldn't believe all of the sycophants who like to spin things to make him look like he's doing something good. Because he is evil, everything he does is evil. Period.
So, how to get rich: -Have a significant starter finance -Lie about your worth to attract money bags -Lie about helping with significant issues while actually worsening them -Roll those who stand in your way Sounds like an actual guide, watch out for me Elon in 25 years.
Just want to say, very recently Musk "embelished" about the detailed on one of his children's death, saying he held him in his arms as his heart stopped. He posted this anecdote to explain why he didn't want to unban Alex Jones (probably the best decision he's made since buying Twitter). His first wife commented under the post to correct the record saying she had been the one holding the baby. He didn't need to dramatize and lie about anything, but he did anyway. Just something to think about.
@@lukazupie7220 she doesn't have such a long history of lying. She has written about her child's death for many years, while Elon has not. The details have already been out there a long time. Elon's other children and 3 ex-wives do not have nice things to say about him. The question is why do you believe him over them?
Most people who become very wealthy start out working hard and getting investor money wherever they could. Then you have to not care who you hurt to get what you want. Most successful men are ruthless, inconsiderate of their workers and don’t give a crap about anything but their success and how much they can make. The people that do the work are of no consequence.
@AdamOBrien-d1z "I disagree. Some people get wealthy through unethical means which isn’t impressive." hard to imagine. the number of people one needs to sell to.....
Great video that could easily be twice as long. Btw the name Paypal didn't exist when Confinity merged. In fact tge product that was under development didn't get named Paypal until after Musk left. The Common Sense Sceptic channel did and escellent series of deep dives on Musk. Elon's Mars delusion is not only silly, but dangerous.
That's how money works in this system that's why the rich don't pay tax they don't get paid all the money stays revolving and growing and they get loans to buy things 💯
“He rejected his fathers I’ll gotten wealth” 30 seconds later “he took a small 20k loan from his father” which in todays money is closer to 40k. But with actual bumps in costs would be more like 50-60k. So it’s hardly as if he is by any definition “self made”.
I just wrote the same thing. The fantasy narrative that this dude sold about himself is outlandish and offensive. The people who believe it are even more pathetic.
Sorry but this sounds way too much like sour grapes. Tesla is successful ( just under 500,000 car’s produced) last year ,could not see that happening without Musk and you painfully avoid Space x whose engineering accomplishments are unquestionably owed to Musk and his leadership qualities.I couldn’t care less if he is a narcissist and an a###### so was Steve Jobs😂
So nobody who had his college paid for by his parents is self made regardless of what they achieve later. And not a single European can ever be self-made because they got $100k in free college education paid for by taxpayers.
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As someone that is from a country less developed than the US, when I saw Elon say that he went to the US with just his ticket and 2000 dollars my question is: where did this money come from? I know I could never afford a ticket to the US and an extra 2000 dollars on my pocket when I was fresh out of high-school, even of I had worked my a** off, so where did his money come from? How can we know it didn't come from his dad? Also, growing up with money already changed his life, he definitely wouldn't be able to do 1/10 of all the things he did if he hadn't grown up rich. I know my parents were not rich, but the fact we were at least middle class and my parents lived in a house owned by my grandparents (aka, no rent) and were therefore able to afford good private schools for me and my sister gave us both opportunities and knowledge we definitely wouldn't have if our parents had to pay rent and we had to go to a public school or even a worse private school. I know that for a fact because some of my friends that lived nearby were not so lucky and now we are in completely different positions in life today, even though we literally lived in the exact same apartment (the buildings were exactly the same, and so were all the apartments).
@@neb6304 In a developed country yeah, I live in the South of the world, just like Elon did. Edit: Specially because all of the money from everywhere but the EU and Britain is worth less than the dollar, so to get 2k in dollars I need to make 5x times that in my currency, just like in most countries in the South too, including South Africa (actually, in most countries it is even worse than that, my countryis one of themost developed in the South)
Of course it was. His company funding came from his Dad, his jobs were secured by his Dad, he only got anywhere because he worked with contacts of his Dad. I daresay the pompousness that comes from owning an apartheid mine taught him how to gloat to investors too.
@@SgtLion Yeah he tries to down play generational wealth because he knew how bad it would make him look. To acknowledge that he came from wealth would break the illusion that he has been trying to craft for himself and other billionaires.
It is refreshing to see other people basing their opinion of Musk on the facts he'd like to hide rather than his everlasting PR campaign. Well done report.
The conclusions the narrator makes are highly subjective and not based on fact but on the narrator's assumption. I can be quoted as saying "I don't like chocolate" and someone can then say "its highly dangerous for anyone with that kind of manipulative capability to be running a business". Remove the words "dangerous" and "manipulative" and its just someone that doesn't like chocolate. For the record, I like chocolate.
Musk is completely in love with himself. He hires writers to write books about how brilliant he is. He hires Joe Rogan to interview people who praise Musk as "the next step in human evolution". (Yeah, that's exactly how Joe Rogan described Musk.) Musk pays for all of these glowing accolades, projecting an image of himself as some super genious. Remember his supposed design for a travel tube for cars in California? He claimed to have invented the idea of travel tubes, even though they were depicted in science fiction TV shows like Buck Rogers decades ago. Musk hides how his father pulled strings for him, helping him meet with high-power and influencial people. Then he claims he did all these things all by himself. Musk is just full of himself.
The tube was supposed to be in Las Vegas, Nevada. There was a great movie called Logan’s Run with a tube transport in it. They even had a strange LE chase scene with it. Great sci-fi movie 🍿
The real Tesla would be turning in his grave over the crap Elon builds, nothing like Nikola Tesla's vision and life's work as far as I can tell. All Elon doe's is what all ego maniacs do - regurgitate the same shit over and over in a different disguise and surround themselves with people that love to stroke their ego's.
@@danceswithstone Barnum's famous quote (relevent to the discussion) was "A sucker is born every minute." Barnum owned a museum of human freaks promoted with lies about their past and their afflictions.
'He likes the politicians willing to support his myth and let him continue building wealth at the expense of the rest of us. He isn't the only billionaire doing this, but his skill at myth-building and his massive popularity make him the most dangerous' - JT Chapman for More Perfect Union
@@noahof-stuff9151 billionaires break the laws of decency even while obeying the letter. Having that much by definition is criminal. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. This is the direct cause of the corruption, greed and exploitation by the rich. Not saying all rich are bad people but as a class they're the oppressers of the poor.
@@pedroohm5115 Pedro, dear Pedro, please explain to me how rich people break the law while obeying it? If rich people can achieve this remarkable feat, I'd imagine that poor people would also work out a way to break the law without actually breaking any laws. For me this is simply mind boggling. We humans certainly are a creative bunch. The truth is that we are ruled by, not laws but nature. Let me explain as this is also cosmic in its scope. Nature has a habit of organising itself. Organising itself into pyramid like structures with the most successful on top and the least on the bottom, some will even become extinct. Mathematicians have a name for this and it is repeated in everything, everywhere. From memory it's known as the 28 rule or something along those lines. Look it up if you want to know more. So it doesn't matter what society you live in or the generosity of your government, you will always face the same challenges. By your definition the rich are corrupt, greedy and exploitative when in reality it is just nature waving her hand. I should also point out that any wealthy people I know or have met are polite, courteous and helpful. They have also worked very hard to get what they have. I mean like working 14 hour+ days for 8,9 months or more without a single day off. This is a feat that I feel would be lost on you. You would probably prefer to spend your time complaining about the wrongs of this world. Some people get up and make the changes they want for themselves in this world but your not one of them. Prove me wrong !
@@noahof-stuff9151 it's kinda simple, power makes the law and money is power. The rich manipulate the law in their favour. But maybe it's like you say. It's human nature, you can come up with any kind of social and economic system but man will always corrupt it. We're doomed to collapse.
@@millenialmusings8451 Existing how humans always existed is coercion? You always had to work to put a shelter up and provide food for your family, we have a more sophisticated economy but the bare minimums are still required lmao. Go ahead and live in the bush in Canada if you want.
I’m curious how you think musk got enormous wealth? The last 95% of his wealth came as INVESTORS bought Tesla stock, causing it to go up 10x in one year. And in the last year he lost $150 billion as INVESTORS sold Tesla stock. The investors that were buying and then selling, were they the ones exploiting? Or how does that work?
He's a hustler. He sees what people want or need and he exploits that, usually using bullsh;t, to get them to do what he wants, for example invest money. I've seen it done much the same way by big event promoters, other big tech CEOs, various criminals. When someone is free of the ethical and moral constraints the rest of us are bound by, they have a huge advantage over us. I only see it so clearly because I've been hustled a few times. It's easy to be duped.
Yeah exactly. Him and his brother come from very wealthy family. They had plenty of investors between his family and his family’s connections. They act like he just with some random person that knew nobody with no cash and just went out there and pulled up is bootstraps and became a billionaire from nothing. It sounds good, but it’s just not true, at all 😂😂
“[I didn’t get any emerald mine money from my father]” jump to first business, “[I got 20,000$ investment from my father]” Okay dude. Apparently he also went to a local uni in SA for 5 months specifically to get out of SA mandatory military service-something we’d all do if we had the choice, but we don’t.
Yeah, same guy who somehow had hundreds of thousands of dollars in school debt even though if you look at the university's tuition rates and whatnot for that time period, there's no way he possibly had that much in school debt. Not to mention his mom literally bought him a house that he used as an illegal party house (what's that you ask? Did he charge cover? Yes, yes he did.)
Reminiscent of George W. Bush using his powerful family's influence to attain a no-show stint in the National Guard to avoid the draft during the Vietnam War.
It's because people see only what they want to see and worship the guy. I find it disturbing that so many people worship billionaires who are not trustworthy.
The only conclusion I can come to is that the gov is in on it. They keep propping him up with dollars and closing eyes to obviously shady/illegal wrongdoing, the news idolizes him him some more etc.
Given what he's been doing with Twitter, I am forced to conclude a large portion of his wealth has been amassed by simply never paying a bill. You'd be surprised what being a deadbeat can do for your finances.
Elon has made many many millionaires of the little guy by manipulating the stock. He has crushed many a hedge fund and big investers shorting it with his timely tweets
You don't become a billionaire without stealing other peoples ideas and then exploiting as many other people as you can for as little money as possible.
This is where I would say that "everybody should see this", but the people who don't already see Musk for what he really is are beyond help and they would just deny everything mentioned in the video. Thank you for uploading regardless, good stuff.
Buying twitter is the worst decision he made in his career. Now people who didn't really care about him and his "image" are focusing on him and realize he is far from being the genius he's been portrayed as.
Worst take possible. He is going to make Twitter into Facebook, Twitter, Netflix, and TH-cam combined. Watch and learn. This video is a hit piece on Musk. It is bizarre that everyone is going after him.
@@MinusEighty It makes perfect sense if you acknowledge Musk is an egotist and compulsive lier who's identity is entirely fabricated. Giving someone like him one of the world's largest social media platforms which he uses as a church to pontificate to his disciples, is a bad idea . He's becoming increasingly overconfident and sloppy, and as a result his mask is slipping. Honestly, if he was as omniscient as he probably believes himself to be, then he would realise that his narcissistic personality is a ticking time bomb - the only thing people like more than the rags-to-riches story his pushes, is watching the ultrarich crash and burn - it's Common Sense.
@@MinusEighty Alternatively, if you have to undermine the person behind the comment rather than the comment it's self, then you're probably not in a position to judge cogntive integrity.
He claimed the emerald mine never existed, but his father then said something along the lines of "I don't know why he says that, when it did". His story is murky at best
He also wants an end to tax credits for EVs. He loved them while Tesla still qualified, but now that they sold too many cars, he wants the program to end. Proof he doesn't care about "saving the world". He only cares about himself. He is such a good hype man. He comes up with, and touts, completely stupid ideas like the Hyper Loop and other things in an effort to maintain publicity and maintain the cult of personality that surrounds him. That keeps investors rolling in. As for him taking loans against his stocks, that is actually smart. He can take out very low interest loans on the stock and pay less for the money than if he sells the stock.
The EV subsidies should have been $4K a vehicle instead of $7K and no expiration date. Pulling companies up just to throw them against the rocks after they make 200,000 cars doesn't seem like a good idea.
@@AllenGraetz Just like the permanent 20% tax credits the fossil fuel industry gets? Yes, the tax credit were meant to jump start and transition to EV's, which still has a long way to go.
Elon is right (as usual). It is true that Tesla cars do not get the EV subsidy, since that subsidy only applies to the first 250,000 electric cars a company sells and Tesla passed that number years ago. However, demand for electric cars is already beyond what manufacturers can produce, so no need for subsidies to increase demand. Better for subsidies to go toward household solar panels or improvements to insulation, installation of heat pumps, etc. Regarding loans against stock to avoid taxes... Elon actually sold a lot of stock last year and the profits are fully taxable. His income tax bill for 2021 will be more than 11 billion dollars (that is 11 thousand million dollars), making him the biggest taxpayer in history.
This video doesn't cover SpaceX, so just one one detail on "Musk's" spectacularly successful Falcon family of launchers. They were designed primarily by Tom Mueller, and the power behind SpaceX contracts and day-to-day operations id Gwynne Shotwell. It must be admitted that Musk was clever enough to listen to Mueller and to hire Shotwell very early. They never sought the limelight, so they were OK.
You probalbly don't know the definition of narcissist. While Musk is improving the emmision gas problem and saving taxpayers costs for national space industry and creating jobs. ....While you are being petty on the internet Who is the narcisist and who helping mankind?
OMG, I remember that Blackberry ad smh. This reminds me of the Mac Donald's story. How the founders were pushed out and the original home of the company was named to be in Chicago and not California. I knew he was not a founder of Telesa years ago and in fact, I had to educate a couple of his fans I work with and show them he is just an investor. Being a great investor is something to be proud of. But after this story, I see this man clearly used government loans and other loans as the main part of his cash flow. But everyday Americans can't get housing loans, cars, or business loans without scrutiny smh.
@@futureDrNLB he is a liar. He stays up late at night, and he said he earned every penny. He earned every penny that he works for that’s not true. He steals money from people last night saying he’s going to invest in bitcoin for them, and he lied to me and said I own 7 1/2% of stock in tesla sent me an email and it was a lie and he stole thousands of dollars for me and I’m elderly saying he was investing in bitcoin on cash app and cash app so I will listen following the policy and close my account and I talk to them and told them what happened and they investigate it and I hope they shut down all of his address. He stays up late at night and have people send money to me to put into bitcoin strangers I didn’t even know and that is why cash app shut me down and I didn’t know I was doing anything wrong, it’s a liar and a thief don’t give me your money. He said he lives on millions of dollars of cash for himself because he hast to pay his ex to take care of his kids and his company. His employees have to be paid so he lives off of millions of dollars in cash that’s why he’s stealing money from people late at night in the coin for his own self. Don’t trust him don’t give me your money whoever you are.
"The overwhelming focus is solving for self-driving. That's really the difference between Tesla being worth a lot of money and being worth basically zero". The scary thing I wonder about is how many more companies on the stock market are also so absurdly over valued?
I'm glad that someone finally got courageous enough to talk about Musk's other side, well I like him but always had a feeling that there's more to his story he tells Big ups for the video
A guy who smokes a blunt on a podcast is going to have psychopathic tendencies. A person has to have some amount of psychopathy to do the kinds of things he does. Ketamine keeps him even keeled, in my opinion. Maybe Marijuana makes his ability to think cloudy that is where the Ketamine comes in?
I'm Shook! Is this Second Thought with a separate channel? I've loved your content and this "auto-played" after a different video. I was driving so it was purely audio and I just thought "cool a new second thought video". Hours and many videos later I went back to my history to show my love and like & comment on the 2nd thought video only to be bewildered by the fact that I cldnt find it. I proceeded to play all the videos from the timeframe I remembered listening to it and came across this!! Sorry to ramble all but I was just so surprised to see his voice under a new channel considering he has always been very devout to the content he releases and I cldnt really imagine the need for a separate channel. Not tryna hate I love his content and support his choices I was just surprised but I am 100% gonna check out this channel and support it how I can.
The really messed up part of all of this is that pointing out all of the nonsense behind Musk to people who believe the hype and more love capitalism...doesn't result in them rethinking anything, but instead doubling down on how creative he is/was, how driven, how great capitalism is, etc etc etc. One guy I talked to explicitly said that he preferred a system where someone like Musk could do what he did. He's mostly reasonable, but when it comes to things involving capitalism, anything can be excused and turned around as actually being "good." Even corrupt governments where you have to bribe people to get stuff done (which was an example he brought up and supported). It's insane, and it's not even fringe.
Yep. I'm shocked how many people within my circle of family/friends/co-workers adore or at the least support Musk. Even, or especially, the ones concerned with the climate crisis. That shows how powerful public image is, and how hard it is for people to accept a reality that conflicts with their beliefs and views.
Because people do not think they are the exploited, but only temporanely exploited. Every single one of them think they're gonna be billionares, showing how they do not understand the economic system in which we live
@@hardeslaper it’s because anyone who doesn’t look into it sees a billionaire who purports to share their values and bloviates on about ‘doing good’. Sorta like Google used to say their motto was ‘do no evil’. But that became obviously BS and probably scared off some evil corporations looking to buy ads. Anyway, if you just see fawning interviews and press release ‘news’ items drooling over Musk you don’t know what a dangerous turd he actually is.
We're conditioned. "If he can do it so can I." Therefore why would I criticize someone doing what I would do in his situation? The thought that, "actually... I'll probably never be in his situation nor do I actually want to be," never creeps into people's heads lol I think my bigger frustration is everyone says don't hate the player hate the game. But when you say okay let's organize and work together to fight for a pro worker government -Let's change the game - people say whoa there, buddy! That's crazy commie talk!
Poor Nikola Tesla. If he knew that years later his name would be attached to a speeding death trap electric car, he probably would have changed his name
@@Tstep45_qr We all know his hair is fake , but go on pretending and eventually FORGETTING it’s fake . Which is exactly what we do regarding his fictional backstory and his supposed “self-made man” portrayal. The man has been subsidized his entire career and involved in countless government classified contracts . But 🤫….
@@angelozachos8777 ...kinda off topic ( where the topic is Elon being a shit-heel that will go down in history for the wrong reasons like Jack Welch) but actually hair transplants aren't "fake", they're just hair follicles transplanted from other parts of your head that grow healthily. These parts of the head will regenerate in the bald spots, and the places where they were plucked from will just re-grow the hair. You do get polyester hair plugs for some people, and yes, those ones are fake
He won't. His reputation is already in freefall as investors can now see what happens when there isn't time for a company to grow a management system solely for the purpose of managing his worst impulses. Because that is most of what Tesla and SpaceX management do when he is around, manage him until he leaves and then pick up the pieces when he says stuff on Twitter or the news.
When you inherit an emerald mine you're not self-made. The guy has made a ton of money investing well. I'll give him that, but he was born on third base, no doubt.
The general concept of investment is legitimate...but nothing about modern stock trading, hedge funds, or similar financial schemes...has anything at all to do with legitimate investment. Likewise, interest doesn't accrue the way many banks utilize it. All of it is a collection of Ponzi schemes, Pyramid schemes, and 3-Card Monte. Musk "made" no money at all. He just scams a lot of people out of it. It's no different to praise him for that than it would be to praise a burglar or bank robber.
The guy has dozens of failed projects. All he does is throwing shit at the wall and hopes something will stick. He is living in govermental handouts, in other words money from people who actually work instead of accusing others of being a pedo on Twitter, and the gullibility of hundreds of millions of fools simping for him.
Elon is an incredible business man plain and simple. Saying he's anything other than that is deceiving. Tesla is built off of engineers (lots of young engineers) and manufacturing experts putting in 60-80 hour work weeks non-stop. That's the secret. It's a grueling place to work, but the results are undeniable. I guess in 10 years the novelty will wear off as the as Tesla cars are still pretty rare at the moment.
@@bccsivxx-xxivvii Unfortunately he and Tf00t leave out a lot of context and are not economically literate. For example in skeptics video he says solar roofs will take 80 years to repay the full cost, which is misleading because consumers will look at the time till it reaches equillibrium with competing products (which would be around 30 years). Also off the top of my head they both reported that tesla scammed california out of tax credits for their battery swap station when that never happened. Yeah they get quite a bit wrong, its almost like people who don't understand econ have something against billionaires.
I'm so glad to see people catching on to this. His model is simple. Leverage debt to buy companies and give himself as much credit as possible. Subbed!
His mother is a multi millionaire, he came here from Canada not SA. He left SA after Apartheid ended. went to his millionaire mommy in Canada, then came to the US.
Have you heard the term confimation bias? Because if you really have the intelligence to watch the whole video and not let your tik tok brain to reach a conclusion from the title, you woul realized that the father only gave him 20k in a round of investors that raise 500k. You don't get to be the most rich person of the world by accident lol. Some can cope with the're own failures and would see ineptitude or any escuse to justity the success of other, avoiding at all cost self awareness
4:41 Elon Musk Tesla co-founder myth. 6:18 Lawsuits settled; Elon gets to call himself a co-founder. 6:52 Musk spins narrative to get DOE ATVM Tesla $465M loan, 8:26 paid off in 2013. 8:44 carbon credit income.
@@123axel123 what does that have to do with the blatant corruption the video discusses? you forgot to mention tesla's are extremely expensive, owning, driving, maintenancing one is an option available only to the very wealthy. so stop pretending he did the general populace some big favor by allowing a handful of rich folk to buy fast cars. Also electric cars really arent all that great for the environment anyway. The batteries still guzzle power needing to be charged and lithium ion batteries do eventually expire and pollute. please stop pretending musk is doing the general populace a favor because he is NOT.
@@gamer1X12 You are an ignoramus. Teslas are expensive because new product. Price will drop adjusted for inflation. Yes not all electricity is clean, but all oil is dirty. Don't sit too close to your screen. See the bigger picture. Clean nuclear energy can make things beetter. Lithium is dirty but batteries already using less of it. Further innovation will come. Blatant corruption? I don't see any of it. I just see a rich guy bending the rules a bit. No omelett without cracking some eggs
@@fractal5764 Forbes estimates Musk's networth at around 230 billion dollars. If thats not rich to you, idk what is. I dont automatically hate anyone simply for having cash, and I dont know what gave you that impression.
The U.S gave him grant money -- no strings attached. Every taxpayer should be getting money back.
It’s all corruption, the corporations and the politicians are the same class
Totally agree….. As Shareholders! 💰
Tesla paid every cent back, with interest.
This video is ridiculous, and a hit piece like all other media looking to shut down an individual that has created electric transportation, reusable rockets, put American astronauts on ISS without having to catch a ride on a Russian rocket, which the states has had to do now for decades, is boring tunnels to alleviate life sucking traffic, developing technology to help people walk again, see again, hear again and get their lives back. Oh, and that whole multiplanetary species thing. You know, no biggie.
Here is the guy who started a handful of companies that are collectively trying to pay gunshot forward to a better place, and everyone is sh!tting on the only places not corrupt to their core that are trying to DESTROY your country!
I've always known the effects of propaganda given the resign of Hitler, Stalin, et al, but to watch it happen in my lifetime, in real-time, right in front of me, is mortifying to the core.
You know how you all say, and agree, that the government can't be trusted, and how they're out to make your life worse?
Well why do you think they're putting out an ENDLESS barrage of negativity about someone actually trying to DO something about it?
Elon has been tapped to lead the Department of Government Efficiency. Do you even know what that means!?
It's the VERY thing that's going to make your life, and the country, what it CAN be.
Please, for the love of all things wonderful, look at how many industries, including government, are being disrupted by Elon and Co. and ask yourself why there's such a huge target on him.
This is NOT the time to not think. You MUST look at the ACTUAL truth. It's so important right now. Please. I'm begging you to look. Your country is about to be destroyed, and you can't even see it. If north America is destroyed, the world is destroyed. And it will be too late by the time you realize what you just did by being ignorant, and then you'll live in a hell on earth.
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Kimbal musk admitted that both he and elon were broke illegal immigrants after college.
I was an autopilot tester at Tesla and was fired less than a month after whistleblowing the lack of safety for the public while testing on public roads.
Thanks for bringing it up!!!!!!!!!!
Auto "pilot"? I did not know Tesla makes planes!
I've been driving FSD since 2020. 12.5.4 works exceptionally well. My Tesla Model Y is an amazing car. I'm also a Tesla investor. Musk's political foray is a complete and shameful failure. Buying Twitter was a dumpster fire. His tantrums and obscene outburst against companies that don't want their advertising associated with racist, neo nazi and anti semetic rants are inexcusable.
I think FSD is very safe and only getting safer. But yes, there should be an open evaluation of FSD. Instead what's happening is Tesla doesn't advertise, so even most of the 90% of Tesla owners who don't have FSD aren't aware of what it can now do, and how safe it is. Against FSD is misinformed often clearly biased reporting. This doesn't work for anyone.
If FSD has a risk, from my 45,000 miles of using it, it is at the fender bender level. I would argue that the stats prove how safe it is, but I don't think everything is available and none of it has been independently verified. With 3 million Telsas now on the road, all of which use some part of FSD, if there was a serious safety issue it would be well known about.
Musk's politics are inexcusable and shameful. If his compensation package were to be put to the Tesla shareholders now, he would lose. Who knows how unhinged Musk is going to be after Americans reject Trump's fascist rantings and threats. Many of Trump's supporters after the 2020 election committed felonies and are serving prison time. I hope Musk wakes up and gets back to his important work.
@@torsten6777auto pilot on the car
Sorry. Thank you for shining a light on his fraud
Please keep exposing all the corrupt people in our society and government.
Like Musk
Love people who speak truth to power! And we need a whole lot more of that in this day and age. At least we have this channel, David Pakman, Leeja Miller, Jeff Tiedrich, Michael Moore, Bernie Sanders, Robert Reich, Lucian Truscott...
😊it's easy to point out what's wrong because all you have to do is walk outside and look the real challenges a solution to what we face as a human it's not mankind it's not woman kind that's just another way to keep the division growing a 5 year old knows right from wrong it comes down to the choices we all make stop paying attention to these people and they will go away stop pointing out all the problems offer a real solution the two greatest Pursuits in humankind Sex and Money I can understand why sex is so attractive and wanted but money that just doesn't make any sense and you'll probably think I don't know anything about that and I really don't know a lot but I did get a PhD in economic Sciences and money's not an economy people are an economy and divided people they're broke financially morally and spiritually the most disconnected
Trump is the first on the list, followed by Musk himself. You can not find a more self-interested, self-dealing pair of frauds.
Is there enough time? You may need to pass this mission on to your children and future generations to get it all covered.
Sadly, it seems like we now expect and accept our judges, congresspeople, and even presidents to be full on criminals that take bribes, fail to do their jobs, and mostly seek to empower and enrich themselves at the tax payer expense, while competing with entertainers for perversion and partying.
Rewatching this two years later and it's aging really well.
Yep, like a fine wine.
😂😂😂 don’t you just lurve the interweb😊🔥
Second thought isn't good tho
😂😂😂
@@DGZGSGEGIGKGMore like do-,do water. Musk is a fraudster, nothing more.
When you understand macro economics, and you begin to realize how things that are valuable are only valuable because we collectively think they are (assets, stocks, companies, currency even), you begin to realize that all Elon has to do to get rich is, not be some quirky genius savant, but just make people think he is. And he's nailed it
Let's add some people to that. Apparently most US males think that clowns like this are valuable.
yer. it's simply called an Impostor!
If it were only so simple. The stock market is not as dumb as you make it out to be. Results matter, and Elon Musk's companies are producing results and coming up with innovations that would have been science fiction 20 years ago.
@@toddr.lockwood843 You got a little shoe polish on your chin.
Reminds me of Elizabeth Holmes
The myth of the self made man
Gee, just like his V.P.
The Orange Judas.
🔵 RESIST TYRANNY 🔵
As they say, "I have no heard Elon say, "I'm a self-made man". Without reference to anyone, it is said that the trouble with all self-made persons is that they can't remember all those who helped them make it.
It mirrors Trumps own story.
Lying and screwing people over for their own benefit.
Not surprised.
"nothing comes from nothing" - people tend to forget that
Like every self made man
When Elon talks about just 'getting' investors with phone calls it really helps a lot if you are already part of a family worth almost a Billion $ (30 years ago too). His father helped much more than with $20000 loan while Elon was slumming it for a couple years to avoid South African military service.
sooooo😂
1:36 it was 200k
@@pysq8 but it says "10% of 200k"
@@MFSCraft ahhhhh thx
Yeah , a back up billion or so really comes in handy
There's absolutely no way for any human being to accumulate that much wealth in such little time without cheating stealing and screwing people over.
yes there is a way which is not through corruption..not all rich people are criminals. Riches start with God who is super rich in more ways than humans can imagine. What do humans understand about anything? almost a zero .
100% agree
Obviously. Except for those who can take a loan from God, which seems to be super rich according to someone that commented on you.
@@RedGreen-Blue we're talking about rich in material my guy. Im a christian and I know what youre saying, but thats just out of place
The resources of this planet are meant for all
It would be worth mentioning that he went to the most prestigious schools in South Africa, Canada and the US. So 'calling a few investors' is quite easy when you already have the connections.
Like millions of others around the world yet 99% of them are totally unimportant.
It is so pathetic to think like that.
Also, what investors are we talking about? 200k for zip2?
200k? Really? Many middle class parents buy apartment for their kids that is more costly lol. Millions of people have 200k in their bank account. And they buy apartment and rent it out - and nothing wrong with that, i am doing the same, we are not all meant for great things.
That's like saying "yes I went to Harvard and I talked to every rich person there and they all gave me their numbers and liked me".
That's maybe exaggerating the issue a bit but it's not that easy - you don't just know who has what.
Connections is only part of the secret sauce. Intelligence, Vision and hard work is the other part. Read the Book David and Goliath by Malcom Gladwell
He made a Tesla out of wood in the African jungles he's an engineering genius
I love how he said he rejected his fathers hand out and then 3 seconds later accepted $20,000 😂
Which was a business investment that he rolled into millions, which he later rolled into more millions, which he later turned into billions. Your emoji makes you look like an id.10.t.
I'd love to see you turn 20k to 320 billion. Shit, I doubt you would be able to even turn 20k into 200k. 😂😜
@@t.o.o.smooth5870 I think you meant "million."
@@t.o.o.smooth5870 Ahh yes you are one of those dolts who thinks he did it all own his own. He absolutely admires idiots like you because it makes him richer. Deepthroating that boot will get you far in life.
@@t.o.o.smooth5870drinking the cool aide? Yeah, and Ben Franklin showed up in Boston with only 2 cents!
You believe the story of all shameless, self promoters? Trump, am I right? 😉
Never met a Rich person who didn’t get multiple handouts from their parents when they needed them? Even if they hated their parents. Myth of the self made man…
Start with NOTHING, always helpful to define nothing. It’s easier to risk it all, when you know you have a net, and you don’t give a shit about other people. Like father, like son
I like the part where he came to start college with only $2000 ( It use to be $10 but with inflation, the story is the same ) and then when he needed more he just tap his fathers fortune. It always make for a better story when you start from nothing.
Just like all other self made billionaires, it doesn't do you any good to look to far behind the official story.
not truth. as Elon musk well aware his life will end way before connecting the dots :
that most of his investment and super hard work will show any final outcome or as claims like you fall to see rather
sad how such amazing picture ppl missing so much when all they can see is the frame only
and massing with such tiny cognitive narrow thinking bigger picture and you focus over shape of outside frame wen long after he die - will be only the beginning GUYSthanksdocthanksdocthanksdocthanksdoc
Yeah same story Trump told another lie
Some companies "start out" in a garage not because it's cheaper or easier, but because they know it makes for better PR.
It reminds of one interview of a millionaire (the story is from many years back when being a “millionaire” was a big deal) when asked where he made his first million…….the answer……in- heritance. At least he was honest.
@duprog may i ask how do you know that? What is your source?
Can you give us any more details? How much money? When?
It's certainly not a new phenomenon. In Sweden we had Ingvar Kamprad - the founder of IKEA. Ingvar did start the company himself (1943) but the basis for his eventual success was off-shoring production which led him to the flat packages to cut costs. Throughout his life he maintained the image of a frugal leader who flew coach and lived a life without extravagance because he was a man of the people. In reality he lived in luxury (mostly in Switzerland) and used all tricks he could to avoid paying taxes: IKEA had it's headquarters moved to the Netherlands and the company transformed into several companies both non-profit and for-profit allowing capital movement to avoid paying tax.
Many Swedes still believe he was a hero.
Thank you, I didn't know that!
and he used prison labor to produce,
lots of political prisoners from east germany
a well documented fact
Thank you so much for the explanation. I always wondered how a High tax country like Sweden would allow a single man to become a multi Billionaire like the founder of IKEA. I always thought that he either moved the tax residence of his company to a more tax friendly country or he is getting major tax breaks from the Swedish government.
Your story did not disappoint me.
@@danwelterweight4137 Thanks! Interestingly Sweden combines having low wage gaps (though they are increasing) and among the highest level of billionaires per capita. It's a paradox.
I heard he is also still claiming his pension from Sweden? Is this true?
I always giggle when he tried to claim that the whole thing about his family owned Emerald Mines in Apartheid-Era South Africa was just something his critics made up - then his own dad popped into the conversation with "not only is it true but your sister is sitting right next to me wearing some of our emeralds right now, lol".
yeah , his dad said it was a bump on the ground with some emeralds in it. Didn't last long
his dad is mentally ill dude. he makes shit up all the time
And there are also articles where Elon admits it.
@@TellusJD lol, sure thing Muskie.
@@TellusJD I do get reject shit by throwing the tribal ball when -
A.) You buy it because you picked up the tribal ball.
-AND-
B.) You'd done absolutely nothing that points to the idea that I should take your opinion seriously.
This is all public record, you alt-right sad boi. I'm only mentioning his dad first because it's the funniest. Are you going to cry about it? Is someone going to need to call the Wa'ambulance?
Hearing this, I can't help but think that the biggest parallel to Elon Musk is Ray Kroc, especially insisting on being called "the founder" of a company other people built and eventually pushing out the actual founders. As much as he talks about wanting to be this futuristic visionary, I wonder if he got a copy of a book about McDonald's and decided to copy that method.
Watching McDonald movie on netflix I must agree that he was much more the founder than the original 2 guys who apart from founding a single restaurant had management style that would simply not scale beyond their one single restaurant. Being engineer myself I don't have problem with it. Engineer is hardly ever a perfect founder. A good manager more often is. And great engineers usually know it. It's typically only bad engineers or low level average joe workers who envy succesful managerial founders who take their idea and manage to upscale it. It's Ray Kroc who made McDonald's into millionaires - without him - they'd be failed businessmen struggling to pay hospital debts.
Tell us what those “founders” ever did after mean Elon forced them out and turned it into the biggest car company in the history of the world?
@@The_Real_Grand_Nagus uh they didn’t “invent the Roadster.” I’ve been invested in tesla long before you ever heard of Elon musk or tesla. In fact they invented nothing and contributed nothing other than the original pre-Tesla proof of concept vehicle.
One of us made millions off our knowledge of what’s actually happening at tesla. How much you want to bet that person is you? I wouldn’t bet on it personally only because I know better. Before this twitter nonsense my $400k investment had an u realized gain of $5m. Even though it’s down a lot this year I’m still up more than you ever will be, because you believe fake news. Move along child.
@@The_Real_Grand_Nagus ok.
@@barbarjinx3802 - watch the video again and again, until you get it: Elon Musk does nothing but total self-promoting on the propaganda circuit - NOTHING of real value. An evil asshole as so many employees can attest to. Maybe you will get it one day...
Is it just me or was Musk expressing himself much more coherently years ago? I hardly understand what he is brambling these days.
Well right now he is trapped in X/Twitter literally all he's doing. Guy has lost his mind
Brainworms
Typical. (As they "age..." the narcissist's 'mask' begins, to slip... as well as the lies, upon lies... become increasingly harder to "cover for..." as the cons pile- up, then begin to "unwind...") And many are hiding behind the Aspergers, bipolar, etc. "cover stories.") Musk also showed- up recently at a Hollyweird party in a Balphomet "costume." (So is he looking for more "deep pocket" investors, attention, validation and admiration... or: is he also a NWO Luciferian- Set/ enanist??? I suppose: "time, will tell?!")
They must have cloned him too many times
Ketamine abuse
Who’s here in 2025 watching Elon perpetually fuck things up?
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I was innitially confused at how Elon would support Donal! now it makes sense! Birds of a feather flock together! Thank you for this expose!
Do you normally believe everything you see on the Internet?
@@TheAsianRepublicanOh, totally! And I'm sure you're a real person too, right?
His grandfather J.Handelman was a conspiracy theorist and anti semite who led a fascistic anti semitic party in Canada and another party that wanted to establish a totalitarian theocracy ie where society is run by engineers and scientists not politicians.
He migrated to South Africa two years after it enacted an Apartheid system, later saying that he was encouraged to move because of their policies and that he believed South Africa would lead the fight of "white Christian civilization" against the "International Conspiracy" (meaning Juwes) and the "hordes of colored people".
And the biggest wealth transfer in history is about to get turbo charged
Boycott Tesla, that might wake him up. At a minimum, they may start to make a car that has a somewhat decent suspension.
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I always like to highlight that he was fired from PayPal (before it was actually PayPal) on his day off. He was on vacation. Not that it necessarily implies anything more, but it's a call back to the movie Friday. "Damn Craig, how the hell you gonna get fired on your day off?"
It is kind of funny that he found out he was fired when his flight landed in Australia, and he hopped on the next plane back to Cali. So he got off one 18+ hour flight just to turn around and get on another back to where he came from.
And I like to bring up his move to Canada was partly to avoid mandatory military service in South Africa. I don't have a problem with that personally, but it's a jab at his right wing fan boys who do.
Yes, his plan was to revolutionize banking and his business partners just wanted to see money coming in so they got rid of him. This is why he likes to have control over his companies, so that they don't get distracted by quarterly profits and work toward solving much bigger problems
@@ChristopherRadoff So how is that “solving much bigger problems” thing going so far?
"He was on vacation. "
Not just on vacation... he was on his honeymoon for his first marriage. This is probably why he doesn't go on honeymoons anymore.
"Yes, his plan was to revolutionize banking and his business partners just wanted to see money coming in so they got rid of him. "
The video covers it. Musk was a narcissistic shitgibbon who was reportedly difficult to work with. In addition to what JT correctly says in the video, he insisted that the company be named after his old "X" company, even though consumer surveys consistently showed that "X" was seen as associated with pornography, making it a terrible name for a bank. Additionally, he insisted on using Windows framework when the rest of the board preferred the more stable Linux framework. Things like this add up, and the board fired him while he was on a plane heading to his honeymoon. I mean, come on, at what point has he ever actually revolutionized anything? SpaceX is just building old NASA gear and renting it back to NASA. He didn't invent the Tesla cars, Eberhart and Tarpenning did. The Boring stuff is just old crackpot ideas from the 1800s. The closest he's ever come to actually inventing something useful was when he made Zip2 with his brother in the mid-90s- and even that was super flawed and required outside help to make work.
@@gaminggeckos4388 well reusable rockets is something I would consider a bigger problem.
All good points. He was fired for incompetence, given stock as severance, and then the company went gangbusters because they took out the trash, and then his severance in stock made him rich.
" Tesla's value is based on the myth of Elon " hits even truer seeing how the stock is crashing right now now that public opinion of him took a 180°
here the thing, you can do what he did too,
paid someone to spread a rumors about you being "the real life iron man"
or something absurd like being "superintelligent", having "photographic memory".
as long as it didn't come out straight from his mouth, nobody could debunk him or accuse him anything.
also, if you want an illusion of being a genius,
here are some tips for you,
Hire the best people you can hire,
there are over 1.000 of smartest people in his companies,
he can talk to them one by one, steal what they said, their thought.
and when you're talking with other people or in media, use their ideas as if it's yours.
by doing that, people will mistake you as a genius, when in reality what you did was quoting your employees ideas.
because there are 1.000 people in your company, nobody will be able to figure it out whose ideas it was.
your new hires and intern will also mistaken you as a genius.
when caught red handed,
create a story where the guy who caught you is the villain and you're the hero.
make fun of them, make them into meme, and rally your supporter to attack them.
this is the Masterclass of being a Toxic Sociopath like Elon
And now it’s back up, looks like it’s not all public opinion
60-80% increase since your comment what next
comments that aged like fine whine
tslaq stooges are the best clowns, the whole entire world is their circus
Yep. I think his stupid behavior is finally catching up with him. People are seeing that it's unhinged and deranged, not the "cool, edgy, and funny" that people were thinking before. The failure of Hyperloop and the horrible performance of Tesla cars over a cold holiday-weekend in Chicago is also hitting home, not to mention the fact that he is running Twitter into the ground and it can't be spun any other way. It's been a rough couple of months for Elon and the media is finally not sugarcoating it.
Oh, one more thing. His "awesome" Starship can't get out of the atmosphere without exploding. We're all supposed to forget that the last Starship launch was supposed to end with a full orbit and a re-entry vehicle parachuting to a nice soft landing in the Atlantic. In reality, it didn't hit 1/4 of its mission milestones before exploding like a nuclear bomb. If this was a NASA project, it would be dead and Congress would be furious at the waste of time and money (Starship has been in development since 2013). The Elon-simps poo-poo the fact that Artemis went to the moon and back, and landed its capsule in the Pacific on-target and in perfect shape ON ITS FIRST LAUNCH.
That is also the reason why he gets along so well with Donald Trump.
"I'm a self-made man. Watch: HEY, DAD! GIMME SEED MONEY! See? Shouted at him myself!"
What I learnt so far, any billionaire saying they are doing good things and they don't need money is a liar. Their ego is over their head, they want praises and attention.
Luckily, you will never have to deal with any of their “problems”.
Yea well you'll keep crying while living off the revolutionary products they keep producing from that vast wealth.. 😆
What you should have learnt is that you are not a very good judge of what is true and should try harder. Just because you are told things as if they were true does not make them true.
'saying they are doing good things and they don't need money is a liar. Their ego is over their head, they want praises and attention.'
you mean like the guys that made this video?
So what who cares
Musk, above all, is a performer. He plays this “nice pal to have a beer with and happens to be a visionary” role almost to perfection. That’s how I always saw him: a performer focused on his own image; practically no credit to all the others he needs for doing the actual job.
So you NEVER listen to his presentations at the various gigafactories, where he praises his employees to the skies?
@@williamcook1342 did you not see how he's fired a ton of people recently or how despite his black employees being the targets of harassment and hate crimes, he did nothing to stop them. Not even a company memo. Considering he grew up in South Africa during Apartheid, was born into wealth thanks to his dad's emerald mine. He wants to sell this image of "I'm just like you, except I did it. I became a billionaire." When he is nothing like normal people. He's nothing but a racist con artist. The most successful con artist in the world, but that's like being the best smelling pile of crap in the world.
@@williamcook1342 It's really easy to stand in front of a podium and say that you provide for your workers.
The information however says otherwise.
While he talks a good game, he doesn't actually show any appreciation for his workers.
@@williamcook1342Why are you boot licking so hard? It baffles me how people are so easily fooled into thinking Elon is smart.
Real life Tony Stark.
I think it's time that the worlds richest man pay us back the $10billion that taxpayers gave him, that saved him from bankruptcy. Instead of using that wealth to subvert our democracy .
@@donloughrey1615 socialism for the rich.
REPUBLIC
Elon is not the world's richest man/family. The Rothschild's are. They are allegedly worth at least $20 trillion in assets.
On the other hand -- Tesla single-handedly shifted the entire world automobile industry in an EV direction after GM ("Who Killed the Electric Car") blew it. And he made the USA the world leader in EVs -- for a time. And he paid the government loan back. it was money well spent.
@@brendabadih8855democratic republic🙄duh
The funny part is the founder of BYD which is eating Tesla’s lunch and dinner, is an actual qualified engineer!
Sounds like Elon well understood the way to success as a car manufacturer in the U.S. is to get government handouts.
Yes, and? Handouts are bad, but they were available. Entrepreneurs take them. I would prefer a government that does not give handouts.
@@123axel123 You don't even know what entrepreneur means. Musk is the antithesis of an entrepreneur. He's a rich kid who used his money and position to get away with being a criminal.
@@123axel123 And it means that the myth of "self made billionaire" that these scumbags are proliferating are nothing but complete and utter lies.
@@123axel123 I think the irony here is that Elon has spoken out about how only lazy people take handouts, he has bashed philanthropy and social programs, all the while he got a lot of handouts. So its more about Elon the hypocrite than anything else.
Yeah but most people have ire towards poor people who they think abuse handouts, meanwhile the people who really impact the world evade criticism/ire for taking advantage of handouts for personal gain.
This man really is the definition of "failing upwards".
When you come from money and have connections - how do you even fail?
Just get investments, build something that half works, claim it's revolutionary, sell that business to dumb money (absolutely no shortage of this).
What aspect of any of this is difficult? The hardest part is the initial money and connections. If you're born with that you can be a fool and succeed. Happens all the time.
There have been significantly richer people throughout history and none of them have launched multiple multi-billion dollar companies. Heck most rich kids don't amount to anything. Build something that half works; say the best selling car model in the world or a company that deploys more payloads to space than all other entities combined or the largest battery storage supply in the world. Yeah that's really easy that's why no one else has done it. But hey as long as you have connections you can achieve anything!
@@oscars411 yeah okay. we get it. Elon did something not many rich kids would do.
But is he actually an honorable person?
@@raghavkaushal7561 What kind of stupid question is this? How would any of us know if he's an honorable person. We see what the media wants us to see. Do you know him? Of course you don't. Are you honorable? Bashing people in TH-cam comments isn't a characteristic I would attribute to an honorable person.
There is so much dumb in this comment it's not even worth breaking down. You should've aborted it.
@@dh9030
If you actually do a bit of research, anyone with a rational mind and the ability to think critically will have no other choice but to come to the conclusion that Elon Musk is anything but an honorable man.
Elon has often lied about his accomplishments in the past and has taken credit for things he didn't actually do himself, and concepts that he claims were his "original" ideas that have in some cases been around for 100 years. There is irrefutable evidence of this!
You say that we only get to see of Elon Musk what the media want us to see, ironically you are somewhat right in that statement but not in the way that you might think that you are. You see Elon has worked hard over the years of crafting the image of the "genius" billionaire philanthropist that just wants to make the world a better place. This is an image Elon has been quite happy to feed to the media and has helped them continually perpetuate it, because Elon has a very fragile ego that needs constant validation.
Yet the truth about Elon is that he is not even close to being a genius, and also not close to being a philanthropist either. What he is however is a ruthless business man, who has time and again proved that he is not above stepping on others to futher his own success.
I don't get it- how come in a land of unscrupulous, psychopathic billionaires, the richest man in the world turns out to not be honest and good? 🤔
What a surprise indeed
I am shocked, I am shocked, there is gambling going on here.
"Branding"... Charisma and the 'myth'..
@@Wranardris That's the weird thing, Musk has the charisma of a dead fish. If he wasn't rich, he'd just be some sensitive weirdo.
The things you must do to amass such wealth in this world can't be considered good or honest.
Watching this in January 2025, is gold
This "good billionaire" grift is the oldest trick in the book. He has a very hard working PR team and a lot of people are gullible enough to eat it right up like good little sheeple.
Can see you really know the guy... lol
@@wildfuture.network on he said PR team 😂… Elon is famously known not to have a PR team, lobbyists or advertising. He is all of those in 1
@@SeanMetellus Yeah.. right you can't possibly shell out all this bs without a few shills
@@SeanMetellus doubtful. He lies a lot, so why would you believe a claim that he doesn’t have a PR team? He’s sure managed to rewrite history, and his money talks.
I bought it until two years ago… I’m guilty of being Sheeple on this one
Elon Musk is just another modern Thomas Edison. He takes credit for all the work other people do.
Thomas Edison was levels above Musk.
Edison never made a rocket land the same way it took off lol
@@therev6689 musk never did that either 😆 🤣 😂. VTVL rockets were around for 20 years before SpaceX did anything with them.
NO, he's FAR WORSE than Edison ever was.
@@therev6689 Ahahahaha, you think Elon did the engineering. That's cute.
Bernie made a direct jab at Musk saying...” why should rich people get tax credits for their pet projects?” Referring to Musk trying to get government handouts for SpaceX.
SpaceX just cut off key links for Ukrainians. I will therefore never buy a Tesla; it is written.
The government provided money to Elon's projects because they saw it as a good investment into the nation's own industrial independence and job creation, if they didn't do so, both Tesla and SpaceX would likely die, but in the same manner as the government subsidies in South Korea helped companies like Samsung become a major player in electronics and job provider with large positive economical impact on the nation, even (some) Elon's projects are seen as a way to compete with fast-paced competition which also receives support like many successful companies in Asia. Without supporting promising US companies whatever through tax breaks or direct investment from the government, the US would be unable to compete with other nations doing exactly the same, as many promising companies like Tesla or SpaceX would die before achieving self-sufficiency which would leave the US economy even weaker and dependent on foreign goods and services in strategically important sectors like transportation,whatever terrestrial or extraterrestrial...
bernie is a grifter as well.
@@Mike-jv8bv You’re out of your mind… or a 🤖 bot.
@@johngalt0096 actually i'm not out of my mind. you are simply disconnected. they are all grifters my dude. bernie, mitch, graham, all of them. the republicans and democrats are all controlled by the same multibillionaires banking apparatuses, and NGO's. Bernie sold out a long time ago. you've been psyoped.
when will it all come crumbling down for Musk? He cant keep getting away with this
Didn't Elon also call for an end to all government subsidies after taking billions in government subsidies? An estimated 4.9 billion back in 2015 per the Los Angeles Times.
He also got billions in transportation subsidies in the last couple years and a nice piece of the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill for his fraudulent Hyperloop project. Now that Hyperloop is dead, he has to pay that back, right? {crickets}
he's done everything bad any socialist joker can think up, same as donald trump. so yeah, he did that
He in the end at 54 less then whas before - snow cliner , no pension and No even Food Stamps now ! Life gives back what sombody deserves.
Not "after," "while."
A list actor as Welfare Warfare King
Dumps waste on Natives.
Let them manage it for 7 generations and called IT Philanthropy
See nuke waste by the 10 dump on Australian AbOriginals
Seems THEY don't want them talking EITHER.
LIKE HOW THEY SURVIVED ON AUSTRALIA SO WELL WITH SO MANY ANIMALS AND HABITAT IN THEIR STATE?
CLOWN COLON Ism
Any ISM shall do.
So the more interesting story is how Musk could raise all that money with just a few phone calls. I'm sure it's just a coincidence he had a wealthy well connected father and family. Anyone can just pick up the phone and raise 22 million right?
Definitely. I'm sure if you make some calls tomorrow you can get 22 million easily.
It’s really not that difficult. You just have to find a phone book somewhere and start making calls. You definitely need the phone book though. Most of the people with their numbers in the phone book are going to be elderly. Then you just have to convince them that you’re their grandson and you’re in some legal trouble, and that the only way out of it is for them to transfer you whatever money they have. Then you promise those “investors” that you will pay them back once your legal case has been sorted out. This is where the elderly thing comes in again, because hopefully they’re not around long enough to realize that you’re not their grandson. By the time their children come for the money, you’ve already shut down that business and moved on. It’s just too bad for them that their parents invested their life savings into a failed tech startup, but whatever, you’re rich now so who cares.
@@TheCommonS3Nse " You just have to find a phone book"
And a bunch of unguarded banks.
“Just work more bro, like 100 hours in a week”
@Jo Jo "Howd you convince them to give you millions of dollars?"
Elon: "Listen Im gonna need you to get ALLLL the way off my back about that."
How you managed to compress this in only 13 minutes is insane! Well done!
when you're shaping a narrative, you need to be selective. super sus.... to be fair, he should do a hit piece on all the other billionaire entrepreneurs.. like how bezos and Amazon has taken advantage of USPS....
. No when you don't do research it is Sus. Thunderfoot chanel rips Elon Musk for his bad Ideas but he has receipts.
Repeat talking point of corporate Coups as facts and speculative News articles as sources is sus. Why not have Alex Jones read this. Elon Musk is making the frogs gay.
Truth! This was some insightful, concise reporting. I look forward to seeing what else they tackle.
How cute, Trump and Elon are bonding over their hair plugs.
😂😂
That's not a burn. That's a roast.
SEC FRAUD....
In 2018, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) sued Musk, alleging he falsely announced that he had secured funding for a private takeover of Tesla. To settle the case, Musk stepped down as the chairman of Tesla and paid a $20 million fine.
3 Feb 2023 A jury has found Elon Musk not guilty in the case of his tweet about taking Tesla private at $420 a share.
I've been skeptical for a long time that a person can be a billionaire. If a billionaire's wealth is based on shaky corporations, family businesses and un-transparent partnerships, his net worth may look good on paper, but if he tried to sell it all and get real money, the worth will plummet.
You and I are both thinking incorrectly, I'm just a guilty as you for doing this but you just said it. Rich people have a different concept on how to use money. That saving money as money is true wealth this isn't correct. If you take money out of the system you are rich and the worth will plummet but that just money, it would never increase or decrease in worth. That billion dollars you have in actual money will be a billion dollar 100 years later and that's why we are thinking incorrectly in this. If you tie it up in stocks or products, it's still money but it can increase or decrease depending on the stocks and the dividends will eventually make you money. It's the same think what Elon is doing but in companies instead.
Take a really poor example logan paul and pokemon cards they were worth say $100 dollars and then Logan pushed it out to $1000 dollars making it 10 times the worth sure you got to find someone to buy it and transfer it into stocks or actual money but that's where the value changes in assets.
So what? He will still have 1000000x more than you. Assuming you have a $1000 to your name.
wow, it’s almost as if net worth is the accumulation of value of someone’s assets and investments, and not how much money they have…😐
@@lesp315 LOL... Look, one of Elon's simps.
You mean that you don't think a person can ethically earn enough money and influence to become a billionaire, but plenty of people actually can access that value in liquid assets. Elon Musk definitely isn't the richest person by the amount of liquidity he can access (he probably isn't even the richest by net worth if you include people who actually try to hide their wealth or people who effectively own countries) but he definitely can turn a large chunk of his net worth into liquid assets fairly quickly.
Strange how Elon timed his move out of South Africa with the age of mandatory service in the military. It is almost as if Elon was dodging the draft just like rich people here did during the Vietnam War....
@@GeraintDafis You're missing the point.
Rich people have the privilege to do so.
Few others have that luxury- and the rich and privileged will again benefit on the backs of those who fight the wars, do the hard work, and the heavy lifting.
Right.
@@GeraintDafis But does draft dodging fit his narrative or is it just another lie in his story?
Draft dodging is good actually. I've more respect for draft dodgers of Vietnam, Korean War and WW2 than the shitheads who agreed to kill for Wallstreet and City of London. Musk is a con artist though.
He said he did so intentionally because he didn't want to spend two years oppressing black people: th-cam.com/users/shorts4m4Y-zxGluU
Can't skip the fact that he grew up in a very affluent childhood. Or that Zip2 founding team included to expreinced business men with connections to his dad. Also people ignore his mothers weath as her family was also very wealthy.
U reek of envy and jealousy
@@drwalka10 I reek of Polo blue jeans
@@jasonjacksn she was not that wealthy. Nor was the father. They had money yes, but they were far from billionaires like what Elon became.
If anything the affluent culture he was exposed to, contributed more to his success then the cash itself.
@@jonjeskie5234 show me where I said they were billionaires? And I also mentioned his fathers connections but I guess you ignored that part. His dad had the biggest house in the most expensive area in S Africa so he was still rich
@@jasonjacksn the point is that it's still a pretty far leap to go from where he started to where he is now. There are plenty of "affluent" kids who never see 1/100th of his success... in fact most don't.
It's amazing how this video is 2 years old but more relevant than ever in 2025.
We do not need him to re-shape the politics. He already tried to re-shape the face of the electric car industry. We know how well that turned out
Excactly! Tesla has revolutionized the EV industry, even though that many have tried but failed before him.
His batteries are made by other vendors
There are other vendors who make electric vehicles.
@@OM-et1bpTesla batteries are made in Tesla Gigafactory / Tesla Gigafactory 3 under management/supervision by Samsung and/or CATL.
Yeah tesla started the current EV boom and publicly shared their patent so competitors could more easily join and compete in the current EV market.
@@OM-et1bp So it turned out pretty well? I'm confused.
@@EdmondDantèsDE Don't be there are a lot of envious have nots in the comments here. As you can see it really effects their thinking.
this was two years ago. crazy how he is worse now and richer still.
Yeah, makes me wonder how come we are aloud to enjoy this segment two years later and after the fact, that Elon used our taxpayer money to push and show on Twitter to get Donnie back to our House!!….bleah!! 🤮
Mikir...
I don't KNOW is serious
The printing presses started spewing trillions out again … election year and private equity needed saving .
The narrator of THIS video is the same guy who creates amazing videos (like this one) and uploads them every Friday morning on his Second Thought TH-cam channel. I have no idea what his name is, so I do wish More Perfect Union had given viewers his name and a link to th Second Thought channel.
Me too.
Never heard of that channel til I read the comments. Thx for at least explaining what second thought is. I wasnt sure if it was the guy or a project or what.
@@bovinityleak2066 Second Thought has over 1 million subs.
Recommend Second Thought, Our Changing Climate and TZMChannel for all those who are critical thinkers and care about the sustainability of the planet and humanity going forward.
They literally name him the first time they show his face lol
JT Chapman and Second Thought
See 1:03
Yall are missing out
And now he’s directing the country.
He has been laying the path to presidentship since he arrived in the US. This obsession for popularity is just for that. There's no other explanation as to why he needs such a huge fan following especially the youth.
@@samanyakumar He’s ineligible. You have to be a natural born citizen in the US to become president.
You realise he's become the richest man in the world right? I think that's reason enough without searching for an ulterior motive 😂
@@TheRABIDdude Then why not make Soros the president of the world? Lol. If being rich is the only qualification, even saddam hussain was rich. So are you going to justify what he did?
@@samanyakumar you misunderstood what I'm saying. In your comment you said "there's no other explanation as to why he needs such a huge fan following" [he must be planning to become president]. I am countering that conclusion you jumped to. I am suggesting that his motive for gaining a ridiculously huge fan following was to use it to become the richest man in the world. As the video explains, his method for wealth growth was developing hype so that people would invest in him. That is the reason he obsessively inflates his fan base. It gains him wealth.
@@TheRABIDdude musk has an unhealthy obsession with pleasing the twitter crowd, as evident by him spending like 19hrs a day on twitter. He is not a genius. He just has the money to begin with since his dad own an emerald mine in south africa.
I've followed his tracks since he was ousted by paypal in the 2000s, to him lying about being a co-founder of tesla, to him secretly meeting with US enemies china and russia, to today. And I promise you, he is just an idiotic insecure manbaby with no backbone with alot of money. And the fact he now has sway over the US government to an extend, is really a bad news for the entire american populace no matter if they're democratic or republican.
I knew he wasn't a "genius", and you've definitely shown me how he scammed his way to the top.
I also have a conviction he is not all that
Like B. Gates!
There's a channel called Common Sense Skeptic worth a browse. In particular, his debunking of SpaceX. Really eye-opening. The uploader seems to have a bug up his ass for Musk, that's for sure, but he uses Musk's own words and data (and basic mathematics) to absolutely destroy the notion of any kind of settlement on Mars. Overall, it left me with the impression that Musk might well be a visionary, but not a smart one, not a man who's ever said "Here's my idea, shoot it down so we can refine it into something workable". Ever.
And his more recent antics on Twitter just plop neatly beside that, revealing Musk to be stunningly narcissistic and quite possibly dangerous!
At the very least, he's a total douchebag. I mean look at the names he gives his kids. Who tf does that?
"Say, what's your name, little girl?"
"My name is X134YD23 Musk."
"No but seriously."
no, he is a genius. ever heard of SpaceX?
He probably does have a very high IQ. He’s got bachelor degrees in physics & business from a very good school. But there’s a difference between being ordinary smart and being a genius. Musk is able to keep ahead of the rubes because he knows just enough math & science to sound like he knows a lot more than he actual does. He’s a little like Star Trek that way. He spouts a bunch of gobbledygook using real science words & people can’t tell the difference.
No one gets that rich doing the “right thing”.
NO ONE! Just like no one becomes President without being part of the psychopath elite...
Successful authors? Musicians?
Yawn. Analysis of a 3 yr old.
Of course not. If you're rich, you're a bad person. If you're super rich, you're just evil. You can't get money without taking it from somebody else and stepping on them. That's just how it works, right? No further thought need be given on the subject. It's simple. Elon Musk is super rich because he's evil, and he does evil things to hurt people. That's the only thing that matters, and you shouldn't believe all of the sycophants who like to spin things to make him look like he's doing something good. Because he is evil, everything he does is evil. Period.
@@j.j.hosenfeld4955Your satire actually sounds like just the opposite of what you mean. I hope you are just kidding!
So, how to get rich:
-Have a significant starter finance
-Lie about your worth to attract money bags
-Lie about helping with significant issues while actually worsening them
-Roll those who stand in your way
Sounds like an actual guide, watch out for me Elon in 25 years.
Just want to say, very recently Musk "embelished" about the detailed on one of his children's death, saying he held him in his arms as his heart stopped. He posted this anecdote to explain why he didn't want to unban Alex Jones (probably the best decision he's made since buying Twitter). His first wife commented under the post to correct the record saying she had been the one holding the baby. He didn't need to dramatize and lie about anything, but he did anyway. Just something to think about.
Maybe wife lied? Bcs u dont like him u automatically belive her side? Or why?
@@lukazupie7220 she doesn't have such a long history of lying.
She has written about her child's death for many years, while Elon has not. The details have already been out there a long time.
Elon's other children and 3 ex-wives do not have nice things to say about him.
The question is why do you believe him over them?
@@lukazupie7220 hilarious you're on here simping and replying to people critical of Musk like they said the ocean is made of Fanta.
He probably remembers it that way
@@macmcleod1188 bro who TF doesn't remember where your baby was when s/he died
Most people who become very wealthy start out working hard and getting investor money wherever they could. Then you have to not care who you hurt to get what you want. Most successful men are ruthless, inconsiderate of their workers and don’t give a crap about anything but their success and how much they can make. The people that do the work are of no consequence.
yet here we are sitting pretty in a capitalist civilisation that has vastly out perfomered 'carebear' systems that promise they care about you.
Huh
@@maryanngarcia3080 It’s true that many CEOs are psychopaths.
@AdamOBrien-d1z "I disagree. Some people get wealthy through unethical means which isn’t impressive." hard to imagine. the number of people one needs to sell to.....
“What good is it to win the world if you lose your soul” !!!
Great video that could easily be twice as long. Btw the name Paypal didn't exist when Confinity merged. In fact tge product that was under development didn't get named Paypal until after Musk left.
The Common Sense Sceptic channel did and escellent series of deep dives on Musk.
Elon's Mars delusion is not only silly, but dangerous.
So Elon Musk hasn't actually made any money? His income is from US government grants and investors. Wow! Thanks for this video. Subscribed!
if you want more details, go on this youtube channel "common sense skeptic"
You mean he's not a billionaire at all????
This is libelous rubbish!!! You are a shameless shill!
That's how money works in this system that's why the rich don't pay tax they don't get paid all the money stays revolving and growing and they get loans to buy things 💯
That's why it takes money to make money 💰
“He rejected his fathers I’ll gotten wealth” 30 seconds later “he took a small 20k loan from his father” which in todays money is closer to 40k. But with actual bumps in costs would be more like 50-60k. So it’s hardly as if he is by any definition “self made”.
I just wrote the same thing. The fantasy narrative that this dude sold about himself is outlandish and offensive. The people who believe it are even more pathetic.
Elon is about self-made as trump!
This! Furthermore, he said 20 while the screen showed 200. 😂
Sorry but this sounds way too much like sour grapes. Tesla is successful ( just under 500,000 car’s produced) last year ,could not see that happening without Musk and you painfully avoid Space x whose engineering accomplishments are unquestionably owed to Musk and his leadership qualities.I couldn’t care less if he is a narcissist and an a###### so was Steve Jobs😂
So nobody who had his college paid for by his parents is self made regardless of what they achieve later. And not a single European can ever be self-made because they got $100k in free college education paid for by taxpayers.
This is the one "ad" I've clicked on in YT, impressed! The amount of information you presented in this concise, compelling video shows the diligence and true journalistic excellence.
New subscriber. Can't wait for more!💙✊
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There is more for binge watching.
Nailed it. Two years later, spot on.
Every billionaire has similar myths
NAHHHH!!! Look at Warren Buffett and Bezos. There are so many GOOD billionaires out there
@@gosubob1944 "Bezos"
/s
@@gosubob1944 Not one.
@@lorina8699 There are billionaires out there or at least a billionaire. Its just that the majority of them are money hungry and enjoy admiration
@@voldibayizitunda2178 I don't admire billionaires.
As someone that is from a country less developed than the US, when I saw Elon say that he went to the US with just his ticket and 2000 dollars my question is: where did this money come from? I know I could never afford a ticket to the US and an extra 2000 dollars on my pocket when I was fresh out of high-school, even of I had worked my a** off, so where did his money come from? How can we know it didn't come from his dad?
Also, growing up with money already changed his life, he definitely wouldn't be able to do 1/10 of all the things he did if he hadn't grown up rich. I know my parents were not rich, but the fact we were at least middle class and my parents lived in a house owned by my grandparents (aka, no rent) and were therefore able to afford good private schools for me and my sister gave us both opportunities and knowledge we definitely wouldn't have if our parents had to pay rent and we had to go to a public school or even a worse private school. I know that for a fact because some of my friends that lived nearby were not so lucky and now we are in completely different positions in life today, even though we literally lived in the exact same apartment (the buildings were exactly the same, and so were all the apartments).
I dont know where you come from, but here in germany you can collect 2k Dollars easily in 4 months as a Student, not even working full time...
@@neb6304 In a developed country yeah, I live in the South of the world, just like Elon did.
Edit: Specially because all of the money from everywhere but the EU and Britain is worth less than the dollar, so to get 2k in dollars I need to make 5x times that in my currency, just like in most countries in the South too, including South Africa (actually, in most countries it is even worse than that, my countryis one of themost developed in the South)
@@NankitaBR oh, i have always thought that south africas income levels were very comparable to european ones, appearently im wrong, i apologize
Of course it was. His company funding came from his Dad, his jobs were secured by his Dad, he only got anywhere because he worked with contacts of his Dad. I daresay the pompousness that comes from owning an apartheid mine taught him how to gloat to investors too.
@@SgtLion Yeah he tries to down play generational wealth because he knew how bad it would make him look. To acknowledge that he came from wealth would break the illusion that he has been trying to craft for himself and other billionaires.
The secret to one's success is that one's success story is pure fiction - Culver Nile
Elon was even caught lying about playing video games, lol. I would rarely tell someone I play games let alone lie about playing them, geez.
It is refreshing to see other people basing their opinion of Musk on the facts he'd like to hide rather than his everlasting PR campaign. Well done report.
@Sarah bob He only blew up one piece of 60's technology to claim a "success", but 4 looks way more festive 🤣
The conclusions the narrator makes are highly subjective and not based on fact but on the narrator's assumption. I can be quoted as saying "I don't like chocolate" and someone can then say "its highly dangerous for anyone with that kind of manipulative capability to be running a business". Remove the words "dangerous" and "manipulative" and its just someone that doesn't like chocolate. For the record, I like chocolate.
@@beyondplanesight But you LOVE billionaires. 🙄
So he takes companies with a good idea, makes it better. What's the problem?
@@steverenken5143How naive! The problem is the lies and stock manipulation, plus the poor treatment of their employees. Do you need more?
Musk is completely in love with himself. He hires writers to write books about how brilliant he is. He hires Joe Rogan to interview people who praise Musk as "the next step in human evolution". (Yeah, that's exactly how Joe Rogan described Musk.) Musk pays for all of these glowing accolades, projecting an image of himself as some super genious. Remember his supposed design for a travel tube for cars in California? He claimed to have invented the idea of travel tubes, even though they were depicted in science fiction TV shows like Buck Rogers decades ago. Musk hides how his father pulled strings for him, helping him meet with high-power and influencial people. Then he claims he did all these things all by himself. Musk is just full of himself.
The tube was supposed to be in Las Vegas, Nevada.
There was a great movie called Logan’s Run with a tube transport in it. They even had a strange LE chase scene with it. Great sci-fi movie 🍿
The real Tesla would be turning in his grave over the crap Elon builds, nothing like Nikola Tesla's vision and life's work as far as I can tell. All Elon doe's is what all ego maniacs do - regurgitate the same shit over and over in a different disguise and surround themselves with people that love to stroke their ego's.
Maybe so. But is it a coincidence that once Elon announced the purchase of Twadder that these “truth about Elon” exposes started popping up?
And so what?
Sounds like Trump. lol
I guess what P.T. Barnum said still holds true "no one ever lost money overestimating the intelligence of the American public".
Musk is a direct spiritual descendent of Barnum.
@@xyz12345457 That was H.L. Mencken, Barnum's quote must be one of those lesser known quotes🙄
@@danceswithstone Barnum's famous quote (relevent to the discussion) was "A sucker is born every minute." Barnum owned a museum of human freaks promoted with lies about their past and their afflictions.
@@xyz12345457 came here to correct that lol
He said “a sucker is born every minute.”’ You’re quote is ass backwards. Read a book.
I almost forgot Leon Skum used to pretend not to be evil.
Elon: "I'm the real life Ironman."
Reality: "Nope, you're Phony Stark."
Justin Hammer - after all SpaceX played Hammer Industries in Iron Man 2.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This should be pinned! 😂
'He likes the politicians willing to support his myth and let him continue building wealth at the expense of the rest of us. He isn't the only billionaire doing this, but his skill at myth-building and his massive popularity make him the most dangerous' - JT Chapman for More Perfect Union
Can you please explain how Musk building wealth is done at the expense of the rest of us.
Are you envious? Just want to invite attention to your channel.
@@noahof-stuff9151 billionaires break the laws of decency even while obeying the letter. Having that much by definition is criminal. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. This is the direct cause of the corruption, greed and exploitation by the rich. Not saying all rich are bad people but as a class they're the oppressers of the poor.
@@pedroohm5115 Pedro, dear Pedro, please explain to me how rich people break the law while obeying it? If rich people can achieve this remarkable feat, I'd imagine that poor people would also work out a way to break the law without actually breaking any laws. For me this is simply mind boggling. We humans certainly are a creative bunch. The truth is that we are ruled by, not laws but nature. Let me explain as this is also cosmic in its scope. Nature has a habit of organising itself. Organising itself into pyramid like structures with the most successful on top and the least on the bottom, some will even become extinct. Mathematicians have a name for this and it is repeated in everything, everywhere. From memory it's known as the 28 rule or something along those lines. Look it up if you want to know more. So it doesn't matter what society you live in or the generosity of your government, you will always face the same challenges. By your definition the rich are corrupt, greedy and exploitative when in reality it is just nature waving her hand. I should also point out that any wealthy people I know or have met are polite, courteous and helpful. They have also worked very hard to get what they have. I mean like working 14 hour+ days for 8,9 months or more without a single day off. This is a feat that I feel would be lost on you. You would probably prefer to spend your time complaining about the wrongs of this world. Some people get up and make the changes they want for themselves in this world but your not one of them. Prove me wrong !
@@noahof-stuff9151 it's kinda simple, power makes the law and money is power. The rich manipulate the law in their favour. But maybe it's like you say. It's human nature, you can come up with any kind of social and economic system but man will always corrupt it. We're doomed to collapse.
Enormous wealth can not exist without exploitation!
Tfw individuals in liberal economies consent to economic transactions
Musk got #nazi blood
@@ogzombieblunt4626 be a wage slave or be homeless. that's called coercion, not consent.
@@millenialmusings8451
Existing how humans always existed is coercion? You always had to work to put a shelter up and provide food for your family, we have a more sophisticated economy but the bare minimums are still required lmao. Go ahead and live in the bush in Canada if you want.
I’m curious how you think musk got enormous wealth?
The last 95% of his wealth came as INVESTORS bought Tesla stock, causing it to go up 10x in one year.
And in the last year he lost $150 billion as INVESTORS sold Tesla stock.
The investors that were buying and then selling, were they the ones exploiting? Or how does that work?
He's a hustler. He sees what people want or need and he exploits that, usually using bullsh;t, to get them to do what he wants, for example invest money. I've seen it done much the same way by big event promoters, other big tech CEOs, various criminals. When someone is free of the ethical and moral constraints the rest of us are bound by, they have a huge advantage over us. I only see it so clearly because I've been hustled a few times. It's easy to be duped.
He started off with $2k like Trump started off with "...a small loan of $1m".
And then later an inheritance of $300 million
Bingo! Both men are narcissists.
Great analogy!
@@Not_Always 413 million was what he inherited
Yeah exactly. Him and his brother come from very wealthy family. They had plenty of investors between his family and his family’s connections. They act like he just with some random person that knew nobody with no cash and just went out there and pulled up is bootstraps and became a billionaire from nothing. It sounds good, but it’s just not true, at all 😂😂
“[I didn’t get any emerald mine money from my father]” jump to first business, “[I got 20,000$ investment from my father]” Okay dude.
Apparently he also went to a local uni in SA for 5 months specifically to get out of SA mandatory military service-something we’d all do if we had the choice, but we don’t.
Yeah, same guy who somehow had hundreds of thousands of dollars in school debt even though if you look at the university's tuition rates and whatnot for that time period, there's no way he possibly had that much in school debt. Not to mention his mom literally bought him a house that he used as an illegal party house (what's that you ask? Did he charge cover? Yes, yes he did.)
So not to serve in the army for an apartheid government, but the full of hate nasty lying Dumbocrats are never going to mention that bit.
Dems trying to badmouth Musk...we have been expecting this...how much $ buys you?
Reminiscent of George W. Bush using his powerful family's influence to attain a no-show stint in the National Guard to avoid the draft during the Vietnam War.
1:36 it was 200k
It is outrageous that people get away with this level of deception.
People are so stupid these days.
There aes plenty out there. 😊
Bernie Madoff did far worse.
They are out there.
It's because people see only what they want to see and worship the guy. I find it disturbing that so many people worship billionaires who are not trustworthy.
The only conclusion I can come to is that the gov is in on it. They keep propping him up with dollars and closing eyes to obviously shady/illegal wrongdoing, the news idolizes him him some more etc.
Welcome to the era of social media…truth?…who’s truth?
"We'll be on Mars ten years from now" - Elon, more than 10 years ago.
Given what he's been doing with Twitter, I am forced to conclude a large portion of his wealth has been amassed by simply never paying a bill.
You'd be surprised what being a deadbeat can do for your finances.
just like president trump
Elon: “I don’t wanna take my abusive fathers money”
Also Elon: *takes $20,000 of his father’s money
Maybe his bro asked him😁
And becomes a neglectful father, which can be a form of abuse.
One part that they didnt mention is that a lot of the other investors only joined because if his father's lobbying and influence.
Elon has made many many millionaires of the little guy by manipulating the stock.
He has crushed many a hedge fund and big investers shorting it with his timely tweets
Polluting, pollution profit & space littering is convenient genius.
So basically he took credit for shit he didn't do and lied and lied and lied to get where he is..? Sounds right to me
You don't become a billionaire without stealing other peoples ideas and then exploiting as many other people as you can for as little money as possible.
Very Trump like I may add.
Yup he is a con man
America is built on plagerism.
Also his companies produce nothing of value and he has zero customers.
This is where I would say that "everybody should see this", but the people who don't already see Musk for what he really is are beyond help and they would just deny everything mentioned in the video.
Thank you for uploading regardless, good stuff.
Buying twitter is the worst decision he made in his career. Now people who didn't really care about him and his "image" are focusing on him and realize he is far from being the genius he's been portrayed as.
Worst take possible. He is going to make Twitter into Facebook, Twitter, Netflix, and TH-cam combined. Watch and learn. This video is a hit piece on Musk. It is bizarre that everyone is going after him.
@@MinusEighty It makes perfect sense if you acknowledge Musk is an egotist and compulsive lier who's identity is entirely fabricated. Giving someone like him one of the world's largest social media platforms which he uses as a church to pontificate to his disciples, is a bad idea . He's becoming increasingly overconfident and sloppy, and as a result his mask is slipping. Honestly, if he was as omniscient as he probably believes himself to be, then he would realise that his narcissistic personality is a ticking time bomb - the only thing people like more than the rags-to-riches story his pushes, is watching the ultrarich crash and burn - it's Common Sense.
@@Sovvyy You sound brainwashed.
@@MinusEighty Alternatively, if you have to undermine the person behind the comment rather than the comment it's self, then you're probably not in a position to judge cogntive integrity.
@@Sovvyy yawn and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
He claimed the emerald mine never existed, but his father then said something along the lines of "I don't know why he says that, when it did". His story is murky at best
He also wants an end to tax credits for EVs. He loved them while Tesla still qualified, but now that they sold too many cars, he wants the program to end. Proof he doesn't care about "saving the world". He only cares about himself. He is such a good hype man. He comes up with, and touts, completely stupid ideas like the Hyper Loop and other things in an effort to maintain publicity and maintain the cult of personality that surrounds him. That keeps investors rolling in.
As for him taking loans against his stocks, that is actually smart. He can take out very low interest loans on the stock and pay less for the money than if he sells the stock.
The point of those credits was to jump start the industry. That's been accomplished.
The EV subsidies should have been $4K a vehicle instead of $7K and no expiration date. Pulling companies up just to throw them against the rocks after they make 200,000 cars doesn't seem like a good idea.
@@AllenGraetz Just like the permanent 20% tax credits the fossil fuel industry gets? Yes, the tax credit were meant to jump start and transition to EV's, which still has a long way to go.
@@RussellFineArt any perception of "permanent 20% tax credits" for the fossil fuel industry is purely a mistake on your part.
Elon is right (as usual). It is true that Tesla cars do not get the EV subsidy, since that subsidy only applies to the first 250,000 electric cars a company sells and Tesla passed that number years ago. However, demand for electric cars is already beyond what manufacturers can produce, so no need for subsidies to increase demand. Better for subsidies to go toward household solar panels or improvements to insulation, installation of heat pumps, etc. Regarding loans against stock to avoid taxes... Elon actually sold a lot of stock last year and the profits are fully taxable. His income tax bill for 2021 will be more than 11 billion dollars (that is 11 thousand million dollars), making him the biggest taxpayer in history.
This video doesn't cover SpaceX, so just one one detail on "Musk's" spectacularly successful Falcon family of launchers. They were designed primarily by Tom Mueller, and the power behind SpaceX contracts and day-to-day operations id Gwynne Shotwell. It must be admitted that Musk was clever enough to listen to Mueller and to hire Shotwell very early. They never sought the limelight, so they were OK.
Thunderf00t has been covering Elon Musk in-depth for years. I'm glad you're finally getting on board.
I'm curious what Thunderfoot's opinion on Musk is today, now that they are both openly right-wing.
No he's not
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Excellent. I can't believe it took me so long to see this. Muskrat is absolutely a textbook narcissist.
Yes!!
You probalbly don't know the definition of narcissist.
While Musk is improving the emmision gas problem and saving taxpayers costs for national space industry and creating jobs.
....While you are being petty on the internet
Who is the narcisist and who helping mankind?
OMG, I remember that Blackberry ad smh. This reminds me of the Mac Donald's story. How the founders were pushed out and the original home of the company was named to be in Chicago and not California. I knew he was not a founder of Telesa years ago and in fact, I had to educate a couple of his fans I work with and show them he is just an investor. Being a great investor is something to be proud of. But after this story, I see this man clearly used government loans and other loans as the main part of his cash flow. But everyday Americans can't get housing loans, cars, or business loans without scrutiny smh.
@@futureDrNLB he is a liar. He stays up late at night, and he said he earned every penny. He earned every penny that he works for that’s not true. He steals money from people last night saying he’s going to invest in bitcoin for them, and he lied to me and said I own 7 1/2% of stock in tesla sent me an email and it was a lie and he stole thousands of dollars for me and I’m elderly saying he was investing in bitcoin on cash app and cash app so I will listen following the policy and close my account and I talk to them and told them what happened and they investigate it and I hope they shut down all of his address. He stays up late at night and have people send money to me to put into bitcoin strangers I didn’t even know and that is why cash app shut me down and I didn’t know I was doing anything wrong, it’s a liar and a thief don’t give me your money. He said he lives on millions of dollars of cash for himself because he hast to pay his ex to take care of his kids and his company. His employees have to be paid so he lives off of millions of dollars in cash that’s why he’s stealing money from people late at night in the coin for his own self. Don’t trust him don’t give me your money whoever you are.
Become rich? You mean other than being born into a south African blood emerald family?
Blood emeralds
@@theburnix darn I was about to say it
@@theburnix my fault, good catch👍
"The overwhelming focus is solving for self-driving. That's really the difference between Tesla being worth a lot of money and being worth basically zero". The scary thing I wonder about is how many more companies on the stock market are also so absurdly over valued?
AĹL OF THEM!
That's the difference between price and value
More than you think!
Time is more valuable than money Yet we value money more
I'm glad that someone finally got courageous enough to talk about Musk's other side,
well I like him but always had a feeling that there's more to his story he tells
Big ups for the video
A guy who smokes a blunt on a podcast is going to have psychopathic tendencies. A person has to have some amount of psychopathy to do the kinds of things he does. Ketamine keeps him even keeled, in my opinion.
Maybe Marijuana makes his ability to think cloudy that is where the Ketamine comes in?
Another side to him? Like he's almost a total fraud case?
@@jmitterii2 What fraud?
I'm Shook! Is this Second Thought with a separate channel?
I've loved your content and this "auto-played" after a different video. I was driving so it was purely audio and I just thought "cool a new second thought video". Hours and many videos later I went back to my history to show my love and like & comment on the 2nd thought video only to be bewildered by the fact that I cldnt find it. I proceeded to play all the videos from the timeframe I remembered listening to it and came across this!!
Sorry to ramble all but I was just so surprised to see his voice under a new channel considering he has always been very devout to the content he releases and I cldnt really imagine the need for a separate channel.
Not tryna hate I love his content and support his choices I was just surprised but I am 100% gonna check out this channel and support it how I can.
The really messed up part of all of this is that pointing out all of the nonsense behind Musk to people who believe the hype and more love capitalism...doesn't result in them rethinking anything, but instead doubling down on how creative he is/was, how driven, how great capitalism is, etc etc etc. One guy I talked to explicitly said that he preferred a system where someone like Musk could do what he did. He's mostly reasonable, but when it comes to things involving capitalism, anything can be excused and turned around as actually being "good." Even corrupt governments where you have to bribe people to get stuff done (which was an example he brought up and supported). It's insane, and it's not even fringe.
That is the brainwashing in full effect. Millions of people are convinced all life can be is working and somehow that determines your character.
Yep. I'm shocked how many people within my circle of family/friends/co-workers adore or at the least support Musk. Even, or especially, the ones concerned with the climate crisis. That shows how powerful public image is, and how hard it is for people to accept a reality that conflicts with their beliefs and views.
Because people do not think they are the exploited, but only temporanely exploited. Every single one of them think they're gonna be billionares, showing how they do not understand the economic system in which we live
@@hardeslaper it’s because anyone who doesn’t look into it sees a billionaire who purports to share their values and bloviates on about ‘doing good’. Sorta like Google used to say their motto was ‘do no evil’. But that became obviously BS and probably scared off some evil corporations looking to buy ads. Anyway, if you just see fawning interviews and press release ‘news’ items drooling over Musk you don’t know what a dangerous turd he actually is.
We're conditioned. "If he can do it so can I." Therefore why would I criticize someone doing what I would do in his situation? The thought that, "actually... I'll probably never be in his situation nor do I actually want to be," never creeps into people's heads lol
I think my bigger frustration is everyone says don't hate the player hate the game. But when you say okay let's organize and work together to fight for a pro worker government -Let's change the game - people say whoa there, buddy! That's crazy commie talk!
Poor Nikola Tesla. If he knew that years later his name would be attached to a speeding death trap electric car, he probably would have changed his name
I think his choice of a wife, unhinged attitude online, and hair transplant is an indicator of the type of person he is
What does his hair transplant got to do with him 😂😂
@@TerreHauteRemoteGoat ohh
@@Tstep45_qr a sign of crippling vanity
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We all know his hair is fake , but go on pretending and eventually FORGETTING it’s fake .
Which is exactly what we do regarding his fictional backstory and his supposed “self-made man” portrayal.
The man has been subsidized his entire career and involved in countless government classified contracts .
But 🤫….
@@angelozachos8777 ...kinda off topic ( where the topic is Elon being a shit-heel that will go down in history for the wrong reasons like Jack Welch) but actually hair transplants aren't "fake", they're just hair follicles transplanted from other parts of your head that grow healthily. These parts of the head will regenerate in the bald spots, and the places where they were plucked from will just re-grow the hair.
You do get polyester hair plugs for some people, and yes, those ones are fake
Years ago, Musk promised to release all of Tesla's patents on EVs to promote the transition of all carmakers to electric. He didn't do it, though.
If he "saves the future" for humanity the way he just tanked Twitter, we are all screwed.
Like everything Musk designs, "Save the mankind" to Musk means jettison 99% of lowly masses and save himself and few other "deserving" fellow riches.
Tanked? How so?
He won't.
His reputation is already in freefall as investors can now see what happens when there isn't time for a company to grow a management system solely for the purpose of managing his worst impulses.
Because that is most of what Tesla and SpaceX management do when he is around, manage him until he leaves and then pick up the pieces when he says stuff on Twitter or the news.
Bingo...cha ching ain't happening.
4 months later from this comment and twitter still exists.
When you inherit an emerald mine you're not self-made. The guy has made a ton of money investing well. I'll give him that, but he was born on third base, no doubt.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 he has not even done that
The general concept of investment is legitimate...but nothing about modern stock trading, hedge funds, or similar financial schemes...has anything at all to do with legitimate investment.
Likewise, interest doesn't accrue the way many banks utilize it.
All of it is a collection of Ponzi schemes, Pyramid schemes, and 3-Card Monte.
Musk "made" no money at all. He just scams a lot of people out of it. It's no different to praise him for that than it would be to praise a burglar or bank robber.
The guy has dozens of failed projects. All he does is throwing shit at the wall and hopes something will stick. He is living in govermental handouts, in other words money from people who actually work instead of accusing others of being a pedo on Twitter, and the gullibility of hundreds of millions of fools simping for him.
Elon is an incredible business man plain and simple.
Saying he's anything other than that is deceiving. Tesla is built off of engineers (lots of young engineers) and manufacturing experts putting in 60-80 hour work weeks non-stop. That's the secret. It's a grueling place to work, but the results are undeniable.
I guess in 10 years the novelty will wear off as the as Tesla cars are still pretty rare at the moment.
@@LiveType -He didn't create that company, he bought it.
Intelligent conversations. This is great reporting. You guys do such a great job!!
😆 🤣 😂 😹
never trust any very rich or powerful person, no matter how they portray themselves
Elon the Con. There needs to be a part 2 of this.
Yea about your mom.
Check out the channel Common Sense Skeptic. It takes a deep deep dive in great detail.
@@bccsivxx-xxivvii thanks for the recommendation!!!!
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Unfortunately he and Tf00t leave out a lot of context and are not economically literate. For example in skeptics video he says solar roofs will take 80 years to repay the full cost, which is misleading because consumers will look at the time till it reaches equillibrium with competing products (which would be around 30 years).
Also off the top of my head they both reported that tesla scammed california out of tax credits for their battery swap station when that never happened.
Yeah they get quite a bit wrong, its almost like people who don't understand econ have something against billionaires.
@@ogzombieblunt4626 He leaves out the bits that don't suit his lies and adds more lies to further suit his lies.
'The fraudster's greatest liability is the certainty that the fraud is too clever to be detected' Louise J. Freeh
I'm so glad to see people catching on to this. His model is simple. Leverage debt to buy companies and give himself as much credit as possible. Subbed!
By 'His model' you mean 'some typically petty-minded horseshit I like to spew'.
How did that work for Zip2? for Spacex? Tesla?
Yes people are catching on.... i was able to see right through this fake many years ago... he's despicable
2 years later and this illegal immigrant is now the president of the United States.
“I only took some of my fathers money; the rest I got from the network I have because of my father”
Q
😂
Thanks for the 😂
True 👍 isn't it
Q❤
Like trump 😅
His mother is a multi millionaire, he came here from Canada not SA. He left SA after Apartheid ended. went to his millionaire mommy in Canada, then came to the US.
@@TimJohnson-x1o does it really matter. He’s doing more for humanity than u r
Have you heard the term confimation bias? Because if you really have the intelligence to watch the whole video and not let your tik tok brain to reach a conclusion from the title, you woul realized that the father only gave him 20k in a round of investors that raise 500k. You don't get to be the most rich person of the world by accident lol. Some can cope with the're own failures and would see ineptitude or any escuse to justity the success of other, avoiding at all cost self awareness
4:41 Elon Musk Tesla co-founder myth. 6:18 Lawsuits settled; Elon gets to call himself a co-founder. 6:52 Musk spins narrative to get DOE ATVM Tesla $465M loan, 8:26 paid off in 2013. 8:44 carbon credit income.
You forgot to state that he actually built electric cars. And pushed GM and Ford in the same direction.
@@123axel123 what does that have to do with the blatant corruption the video discusses? you forgot to mention tesla's are extremely expensive, owning, driving, maintenancing one is an option available only to the very wealthy. so stop pretending he did the general populace some big favor by allowing a handful of rich folk to buy fast cars. Also electric cars really arent all that great for the environment anyway. The batteries still guzzle power needing to be charged and lithium ion batteries do eventually expire and pollute. please stop pretending musk is doing the general populace a favor because he is NOT.
@@gamer1X12 You are an ignoramus. Teslas are expensive because new product. Price will drop adjusted for inflation.
Yes not all electricity is clean, but all oil is dirty. Don't sit too close to your screen. See the bigger picture. Clean nuclear energy can make things beetter. Lithium is dirty but batteries already using less of it. Further innovation will come.
Blatant corruption? I don't see any of it. I just see a rich guy bending the rules a bit. No omelett without cracking some eggs
@@gamer1X12 I wouldn't say rich, just wealthy. How much money does someone have to have until you automatically hate them?
@@fractal5764 Forbes estimates Musk's networth at around 230 billion dollars. If thats not rich to you, idk what is. I dont automatically hate anyone simply for having cash, and I dont know what gave you that impression.