No 'official' scientist includes the mnp movement factor in their public debate. Might lose their jobs. It could be the final nail. Methane turning to co2 after 10yrs also can easily account for that increase.
Could you please make a video about this paper? Nikolov N, Zeller K (2017) _New Insights on the Physical Nature of the Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect Deduced from an Empirical Planetary Temperature Model._ Environ Pollut Climate Change 1:112.s
So very true. youtube/google doesn't like people presenting alternative thoughts/theories. They only allow what fits the narrative of the day. Such a very dangerous time we live in when the most powerful information brokers on the planet control what information you are allowed to consume or even view.
@@willdeit6057 If you actually watched the video you would realize that he is explaining why we are even more screwed than we originally determined since we have not only increased the global atmospheric content of CO2 by over 50% in a couple hundred years, we did it on top of of what would already be a natural ice age termination event. It's a bit like turning the furnace on full blast for a week only to find out the weatherman is predicting there is going to be a natural heat wave on top of it.
Glad you mentioned that we're STILL in an ice age and made the distinction between ice ages and glacial periods. So many people just skim that entirely.
the mere fact the doc thinks the idea that humans as are today, can control climate and nature which existed several hundred million years if not couple billion is hilarious to say the least 🤭, we are inconsequential to the planet, can merely try to understand it nothing we do or try can remotely shift the planets predestined cyclic nature.
I am an 80's baby. The entirety of my schooling, we were taught that we are in an ice age and are coming out of it. This isn't new information, they just quit teaching it in school.
Same here. Heck, I even remember the "coming ice age" was featured on the TV series " In search off" starring Leonard Nimoy. I was in grade school at the time.
The permafrost melting explains the methane spike. I don't understand why this wasn't mentioned at the outset of this video. It was predicted decades ago and is happening now.
They already to at least a degree accounted for that. From NASA: "Methane comes from both natural sources and human activities. An estimated 60% of today’s methane emissions are the result of human activities. The largest sources of methane are agriculture, fossil fuels, and decomposition of landfill waste. Natural processes account for 40% of methane emissions, with wetlands being the largest natural source. (Learn more about the Global Methane Budget.)" And: "These aircraft and satellite instruments are finding methane rising from oil and gas production, pipelines, refineries, landfills, and animal agriculture. In some cases, these measurements have led to leaks being fixed, including suburban gas leaks and faulty equipment in oil and gas fields. The Arctic is a source of natural methane from wetlands, lakes, and thawing permafrost. Although a warming climate could change these emissions, scientists do not yet think it will drive a major increase. To this end, NASA’s Arctic Boreal and Vulnerability Experiment, or ABoVE, has been measuring methane coming from natural sources like thawing permafrost in Alaska and Canada." Wetlands are still the majority natural contributor. I recall the permafrost research being talked about as well even as early at the 2000s. Its part of the issue, but something more is going on and I cant find good research that pins this down yet.
MSM isn't reminding of this though. They have marching orders from politicians with an agenda. They would rather climate change be the fault of human behavior, so that they can go about controlling that behavior.
yes lots of methane lakes now in Siberia. Putin failed to act to contain the vast forest fires so now theres brown earth which melts perma ice much quicker. that produces its own micro climate, Scientists visited the area and lit plumes of fire from the holes where methane leaked. over my age of just 70 we have lost the easterly winds that uk had in summer and winter, in sussex gentle east wind on a hot day. cooled us lovely, that dont happen now. our winters on sussex coast were brutal. snow, frost ice, all drivers had chains sacks blankets and a shovel in the boot. taxis ran on chains a week at a time. my fathers milk float was also fitted with them. The "beast from the east "we used to get every couple of years is long gone as regular. i don't think anytime soon there will be a 1963 freeze event again, unless the AMOC actually stalls, which of course was the driving point of the "Day after Tomorow".
Yep. Most scientific organizations are largely government funded, or they receive a portion of their funding from the government. So the agenda becomes less about working to understand reality, and more about working to secure more funding. And notice anytime something happens that doesn't fit or threatens the political narrative, research groups jump into action to force it to fit the narrative.
It is because genuinely curious studies do not get funded. The science funds are tied to political outcomes. It's about as far as you can get from genuine science.
Here is very careful to present data only. He leaves it to you to draw your own conclusions. I believe he hinted at it near the end. There are non-natural sources at play also.
Nice. I remember people talking about the methane issue 20 years ago. There's ungodly amounts of methane trapped in/under permafrost. As the planet warms, that ice melts, it releases enormous amounts of methane, and this makes the warming even faster, and this releases even more methane. The next few centuries should be interesting.
And the amounts of methane hydrate that are at the bottom of the oceans are just waiting calmly for a shift in temperature and pressure to be released upward and join the party.
You will not need to wait a few centuries for things to get 'interesting'; the next 2 or 3 decades will more than suffice. There are several enormous positive feedback elements in play .. methane from multiple sources, loss of reflective ice, wildfire emissions, cooking biomass emissions, reduction of ocean CO2 absorbtion, reduced vegetation cover, increased carbon based energy use by humans, etc.
they talk of this methane as being much older than the current interglacial which beggars the question 'why hasn't this supposed methane escaped before now?'. The artic was ice free according to proxy data for thousands of years peaking about 6000 years ago. Tree stumps and human settlement ruins indicate much warmer climate further north during this period so why now when temperatures are cooler are you worried about permafrost methane escaping?
Thank you for taking me back to my teenage years when scientists and researchers could have intellectual conversations with data and existing evidence.
Yeah it has slowly been getting easier for scientists to talk like scientists again. Still a lot of threats that come if you do too much critical analysis, but for sure better than last year
They always do what they are told, it has nothing to do with science, Galileo demonstrated this well, even Giordano Bruno's stubbornness became common knowledge when it turned out to be useful, but not because Giordano was right...
My fear is a new ice age with Arctic ice expanding and driving Canadians south. Dallas would be overrun with curling rinks - a fate more horrible than I can imagine.
Not only are we still in an ice age, we are only just recovering from an almost catastrophic fall in Co2 levels, if the Co2 had dropped any further we would not be here now! because ALL plant life would have died, followed closely by ALL herbivores dying and finally ALL carnivores Dying, We might have survived(barely)by creating individual grow areas, I.E. greenhouses where we artificially increase the Co2. The Dutch already enrich their greenhouses with Co2 to get larger yields and better quality produce. Scientist know this, but still go along with the Co2 is evil so must be reduced mantra, mainly because research money is only available for any research that fosters the Global warming/Climate change narrative. The only scientists that speak out against Climate change are either retired(not dependant on grants)scientists, including Nobel prize winners, or Scientists and researchers who are of independent means.
I've personally felt as though winter has been taking longer to arrive, but staying for the same amount of time once it does. I remember back in the mid 90s that we would reliably get the first snow in late mid October, and we would get the first real storm in late November or early December. I also remember that in 1995, we got a blizzard in April that was considered unheard of. Now almost 30 years later we often don't get our first snow until January, but now it's not uncommon to have snow in may. Summer has also felt shifted. I remember as a kid June and July were swelteringly hot, whereas August and September had a break in the temperatures. Now June and July are temperate, August and September feel like an oven, and there isn't a break in the temperatures sometimes until early December. Just what I've personally observed, with all the pitfalls of memory and perception.
I have been commenting for years, it is astro-physics. Now and then, I have mentioned actual climatologists around the world who disagreed with the official version of climate changes had their grants defunded and lost their jobs. re: Food I have mentioned look at world microclimates to see what thrives, and do that. re: Shelter I have mentioned what ingenious things people have done in different climates around the world to be comfortable in that climate.
Since about 2000 we've been in a drought and at the same time our skies are full of "contrails" that never evaporate, a white hazy sky like 1970s Popular Science Geo - engine - earing article mentioned. Even in winter with low humidity, the sky is a HAZE when in low humidity "water vapor" trails don't evaporate.
10:52 correction: cow BURPS. cows don't fart methane. if you know how a cow's stomach works, there's 4 compartments (rumen, reticulum, omassum and abomassum); as part of their digestion process, their food which is grass, has to get processed by phases, and during each phase, the cows will burp their cud and it goes into another compartment for further processing and digestion. it happens four times, and each time produces methane which the cows will burp as it goes into the next phase. so while cows _may_ fart, it's nothing next to the volatility of their burps.
Im having trouble determining if you are being pedantic or just missed the memo. We know that. That is why its referred to as cow FARTS, as in the offensive hot gas expressed by rubes that have bought into the anthropogenic gobal warming bullsh... ahhh...bullgrift. Wait until the next video covering this where he will probably have to go into things like the nonsensical belief that carbon can be permanently locked up in the soil and will have to comment on the fact that every time a volcano farts it expresses more CO2 than humanity produces over the course of several years. (Yes, we know volcanos dont actually fart either...)
@@jennacoryell4160Yes, we know that. The problem is the number of cows and how we keep them. And that we have to use fossil fuels to grow their feed. People often misunderstand the problem. The problem is not the natural digestion process of cows, the problem is always humans. By growing their food with artificial fertilizers that are made using a lot of fossil fuels, we basically turn fossil fuels into methane.
@@viragkaroly2949 we fertilize our own food crops with the same methods, and the number of cattle we have today is lower than it was in the 1960's. Why the focus on eliminating beef specifically?
Back in the early 90’s my Dad and his friend started using landfills to generate electricity. They had wells placed all over the landfill and burned the gas on two giant Caterpillar engines that powered a big generator. They sold the power to the City. The first one they did was in Burlington, Vermont. I remember my dad taking me there when I was a kid.
Now it's nor profitable to burn landfill gas for electricity, rather to refine the LFG to cleaner natural gas. Amazing how far we've come in the waste industry in just a few decades.
.. Interglacials are caused by LOW CO2. Low CO2 causes plant-death and CO2 deserts. This causes dust. Dust on ice sheets causes warming. Thus low CO2 causes interglacial warming. Every interglacial is preceded by 10,000 years of dust. Interglacials are NOT caused by increasing CO2. The feedback is ice sheet aIbedo. See paper ‘Mod.ulation of I.ce A.ges by D.ust and A.lbedo. (Spelling deliberate, to prevent Yootube deletion.) R
When I was in highschool in the 90's my teachers told me that we are in the tail end of an ice age and that in my lifetime I should expect an increase in temperature, sea rises and better farming
You had a sensible teachers who knew their facts , unlike the woke , believe anything the government paid scientists tell today’s teachers , who then try and indoctrinate the children.
Yeah snowbunny the question is if we've been at the tail end and are facing the sudden reversal to the start of the next Ice age....and been experiencing better farming and higher sea levels for the past several thousand years. ...also, if these are correlated to solar cycles or polar shifts and are we due for another.
@robh467 given that Ice age cycles are in the thousands of years time range even if we started a global cooling event leading to another snowball earth level Ice age our childrens great grandkids wouldn't see snowball earth short of some kind of global disaster such as a super volcano eruption accelerating cooling with a global cloud of fly ash.
The discovery of the elevated methane levels correlate precisely with the expansion on earth of a mexican fast food franchise that is known as the Taco Bell. The numbers are irrefutable and sometimes quite delicious.
We'd like to think that the patterns we see will always repeat themselves. But other factors come in to play like large pockets of organic Matter that were Frozen and now are being released. And of course, the large amounts of carbon that we are extracting from the Earth and putting into the atmosphere.....
Great presentation of what's known and yet unknown. No political double-speak. I was starting to believe this was not possible in todays world. Thank you.
@@mian6788 I was majorly disappointed that I wasn't instructed to stop eating rice and meat. Looking forward to eating the bugs to save the planet. Glad you see that anyone that disagrees with us is simply wrong.
@@mian6788 , or there is data people like you like, and data you don't like. I like seeing all the data, and hearing different interpretations of it, to see which one makes the most sense to me.
As long as Antarctica is at the southern pole, the Earth will experience periods of extreme glaciation. Plate tectonics says that will be at least another 80 million years before the cycle of glaciation will end with Antarctica moving north into the Atlantic Ocean. Then, when Europe finally gets into the Arctic Circle, it will begin again. Antarctica has occupied the south pole region for about 300 million years, and it and its ocean currents are a major player in the onset of global glaciation events (as is Northern Canada).
@@johnhenry3536 No, john. That's not what the video is about. It is about the real global and cosmic processes that periodically put the Earth into periods of glaciation, followed by rather short periods of receding ice sheets. I guarantee you'd rather live in a warm planet than one half covered with 5 kilometer deep ice sheets. And I can just about guarantee, based on past cycles, that the Earth will once again enter into a period of glaciation that covers the majority of the Northern Hemisphere, and that is made possible, in part, because of plate tectonics and the movement of continental land masses over the past half billion years. Where do you think the Atlantic Ocean came from, john? What effect do you think a land mass the size of Antarctica, with its ice cover and low albedo, has on retention of solar heat? What do you think happens when, because of oceanic current and weather changes, northern Canadian Plateau gets a permanent snow and ice cover? How many decades would it take before the Canadian ice sheets made their way south of the 47th parallel (hint: less than 10). What do you think the effect of a new period of glaciation would have on the civilizations north of the equator? John, when the people who have convinced you that AGC is a real thing stop buying beach front properties, then you should worry. Until then, maybe you should increase the amount of salt in your diet.
@@johnhenry3536 Well, one thing is certain; whatever so-called hellish climate is in store for us all… There’s not a damn thing anyone can do to prevent it happening. Human beings are clever and powerful, but not more powerful than the Sun or the earth’s changing trajectory around the Sun.
@@johnhenry3536He's making a correlation between the periods and how the glacial and ice ages compare to the plate tectonic movements. It was a comment explaining the belief of where the continents will be located when another cycle begins.
It's irrefutable that the death of the megafauna was caused almost exclusively by the spread of Sapiens. Every new land mass or island that was ever settled by humans followed the same script. The first evidence for Sapiens correlates perfectly with the rapid extinction of the megafauna at too many locations to be climate driven. Also, there isn't the same extinction of the megafauna in the oceans, which are typically more sensitive to climate shifts than terrestrial animals.
I'm an old retired undereducated woman with an interest in meteorology and natural sciences. This video popped up after a different (unrelated) video, so I watched it. I really, really enjoyed it. I've not encountered Dr. Ben Miles before, but I think I'm in love. Thank you!
Since you seem interested, look up what will happen to the Earth when its orbit about the sun goes to circular. (The present-day orbit is not circular which produces winters and summers.). The circularization of Earth's orbit will happen in about 25,000 years as it did happen roughly 100-million years ago.
Which drives marine temperature increases, leading to marine methane clathrate deposits (which are highly sensitive to both pressure and temperature changes) to destabilise en masse. This will fully move the planet into an ice free Interglacial. Therefore it's not the Holocene, it's the Flandrian. We should expect to see a normal interglacial temperature profile of around +3-5°C and no land ice outside of Antarctica and the highest altitudes with the consequent sea level rises reflecting levels in the Ipswichian (the last full interglacial) when there were hippos frolicking in Trafalgar Square. Humanity will have to adapt rather than attempting to act like King Canute and hold back the tide.
- Interglacials are caused by LOW CO2. Low CO2 causes plant-death and CO2 deserts. This causes dust. Dust on ice sheets causes warming. Thus low CO2 causes interglacial warming. Every interglacial is preceded by 10,000 years of dust. Interglacials are NOT caused by increasing CO2. The feedback is ice sheet aIbedo. See paper ‘Mod.ulation of I.ce A.ges by D.ust and A.lbedo. (Spelling deliberate, to prevent Yootube deletion.) R
What a fantastic presentation. In this period, it is borderline miraculous to find a video on this particular subject that cares to give HISTORICAL CONTEXT. I am grateful.
Yes it was a good overview. There are plenty of other videos which cover this long-term context if you look (strictly speaking not 'historical': that applies to human timescales since written records - hence 'pre-historic' for the first 240,000-odd years of human existence). I'm not sure what the right general word for everything before that is. 'Climatic' or 'geological' context would work.
@@ericskelton8368 Did you watch the whole video? The title is potentially confusing. The information is accurate to the best of my knowledge and the presenter agrees that we in a very rapid climate-change event which might be sufficient to move us out of the somewhat irregular oscillation that has been going on for about the last million years. So I'm not sure what premise you think the big picture is the opposite of?
@@xxwookey The video seems to gloss over the Tipping Point hypothesis whereby an increase in human-caused CO2 triggers a (my emphasis) self-reinforcing methane release causing further warming. Our current climate change is exponential, not linear, not gradual, not naturally caused and not just another blip in a long geological record of climate variations. As much as science can know something, climate urgency is established. The foreseeable consequences are dire. Unfortunately, this video looked forward instead of only backward, possibly inducing complacency in its viewers when it’s urgency that’s warranted. The video observes the rapid increase in CO2 and observes the spike since just 2006 in methane release. Then, strangely, the video pivots to reassure us that the Earth has an ability to engage negative feedback loops to respond to climate change and establish a new equilibrium. That glosses over the initial dramatic loss of habitability for life forms that exist today as we sleep our way into a climate catastrophe and then wait for a millennia-long correction. The video skips over the damage the initial positive feedback loop will cause. The result is a video that, intentionally or not, has the effect of making an oncoming train with us tied to the tracks, seem like just a morning commute. Science and its methods don’t exist only to direct humans to wise choices. But the « sapiens » part of Homo sapiens does mean wise. We should be using our wisdom to detect and avert crises, not to minimize them.
Thank you for being responsible and not fear mongering about climate. Saying "we don't know" means we can look for answers. Saying "we have all the answers" means we stop looking at new ideas and box ourselves in.
No no no, we do know! 7 years ago AOC said we have 12 years to turn this around or we're all doomed. Anyways, I don't have time to chat, I've got to get to the bank to sign my new 30 year mortgage!
Eve. Though most of the conclusions drawn are misplaced. Level of methane in atmosphere is in the teens of ppm, and he’s wrong about the length of time methane stays in our atmosphere, it’s about a week before it decays and not a decade. Getting to the broadly correct answer but by mostly incorrect methodology.
A breath of fresh air to have the climate debate presented with significant research and justification. Dr. Ben, you have brought together much of the various arguments into a concise summary of what we really need to track. I found the global methane release map extremely fascinating. Thank you. This deserves wide viewing.
@@geraldbennett7035 Most of his comments are bots. Thankyou Dr Ben, I'm grateful for this Dr Ben, Great words Dr Ben.. I wonder how much he's paying for fake subs, comments and likes? From a video I watched recently about a guy showing the packages and prices to get bots, It isn't cheap especially the package that he's paid for..
I wrote a paper like this in college in like 2008 and i have wanted to blow my brains out every day since. The sad part is it feels like we are further from a solution now than we were 16 years ago.
We certainly have the science and most of the technological solutions. The problem has been waking media and politicians up to the urgency of the crisis and approaching tipping points. COP29 is not looking up to the task, but if it is complemented by a Fossil Fuel Treaty involving workers and stakeholders, real progress will be made.
Just took a free class on cycles of climate changes and termination events while under my warm covers on this frosty morning. Thanks for this learning opportunity!
and its wrong because he talked only of methane, just one side of the problem, the heart of problem is the 13km3 of carbon on gas/oil/coal we release yearly in air dont return underground, the glaciology give us data for millions years and we know for sure that co2 lvl are lot higher in ppm than during all glaciations periods. that mean you cant see it like if we were still post glaciation cycle...we ar eina different cycle a cycle where man create a carbon crisis,.and if you think temperature is the biggest threat you are wrong, co2=acid sea=no plancton=no fish =mass hunger. the other risk is runaway climate who mechanically cna kill all life on land in centuries...hollywood maybe, but look in the sky, venus could be as cool than earth, but with climate heating she is 400°c. so for our criss, the closest match is devonien/carboniferus crisis, precisely the period where hydrocarbur form..1/3 of sea animal died, and no animal bigger than mice survived it on land with 6%o2.. it took 15.000year for plant to bury enough co2 without herbivor to give back normal lvl of o2 and millions year for land animal life to restart...we wont see this scenario, but our kid great kid etc will see lot of change for sure.
@@eriklerougeuh5772Well carbon emissions are most likely going to peak between 2023-2025 and then significantly drop after. So good news we may be on the verge of getting rid of carbon emissions entirely by 2050 across the globe starting the onset of sucking back in all the co2 we emitted.
@@Robweisenhowser I would disagree with this for one simple reason. India. India is a underdeveloped nation. However, due to its cheap labor it will become the next china which means a rapid rise in pollution production until they have industrialized.
Nope. But politicians don't really care about anything other than increasing budgets. If they can't tax the weather, they'll just tax hot air instead. Throwing money at every problem is always their answer, because that thrown money ends up in their friends' pockets as well as their own.
@orpheuscreativeco9236 Taxing corporations is taxing people. Corporate taxes, payroll taxes, capital gains, etc are paid by consumers through higher prices for products.
@orpheuscreativeco9236 more taxes will not save the environment, nor will the government. The gov has never fixed anything outside of basic social issues, and even that is rocky.
Well for example Estonia is 23% wetlands. During the past 50 years, there has been enormous growth of digging trenches to dry out wetlands for pine wood monoculture production. Also peat mining has played a key part. As the wetlands dry out, the organic matter stored there starts to continue to decompose, releasing methane into the atmosphere. I don't know about much rest of the data, but I'd guess its important to point out that some of the natural cycles are triggered by human activities. Great video though, an interesting new perspective for me.
This video is full of speculations built on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without knowing. Vain mention of permafrost melting to explain the methane gas, while Russia keeps releasing such gas into the air and into the sea & ocean while is isolated by the embargo. Russia still extracts petrol & sells some, but not as much the gas present with it, which is released into the air.
I was looking at the ice core temperature scale of the last 800,000 years a few years ago. Every temp spike they projected was followed fairly closely by a coresponding methane spike.
Well observed and you are right. Higher temperatures cause the release of more methane, mainly due to melting permafrost regions and to a lesser extend due to melting polar ice caps.
This video is full of speculations built on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without knowing. Vain mention of permafrost melting to explain the methane gas, while Russia keeps releasing such gas into the air and into the sea & ocean while is isolated by the embargo. Russia still extracts petrol & sells some, but not as much the gas present with it, which is released into the air.
Yeah, recently they discovered that the Earth Tilt n Magnetic North is actually abnormally large, so the exposed surface to the Sun’s radiation would melt the polar ice n glaciers in a big way
Melting permafrost causes frozen organic matter to decay, releasing more CO2 and methane. Changing thermoclines on continental shelves cause methane hydrates to destabilize, releasing more CO2 and methane.
Thank you for all the information clearly presented. I have long been interested in the factors that contribute to climate and how it changes over time on earth. It's a very complicated subject with many many variables affecting climate and I don't think people realise this. Having said this... The impact we humans have had on climate have been dramatic causing severe warming and poor environmental practices, land and sea pollution etc. So we are seeing results in the increase in global weather changes and disasters. But it's not all the story.. Planet earth has its own cycles in nature. We are affected by events related to our planet's place in solar system, by way chemicals and systems on earth work. We need to keep open minds, keep learning and developing understanding, keep working to reduce our negative impacts, keep sharing knowledge. Thank you for your presentation
And it seems massive melting interferes with ocean currents and in the end leads to gulf stream weakening. Which in the past likely started a reversal process. It will be crucial to understand if our emissions have the potential to mess this natural "switch" up.
That's just as plausible as anything else these knuckleheads come up with. How many times has "science" changed their theories. Science is actually on the side of Creationist if you'll take the time to investigate it all. Good luck when you have to give an answer when you're standing before God on your judgement day. And oh ya, we're all going to make it to that day. Jesus is your hope.
Because you cant freak out about global temp increase and support billions of tax dollars going between the hands of well paid administrators... if you had too many facts that didnt cause fear based actions.
They chose to reach you about feelings rather than facts. The education I got from 1988 through to 2003 was based on logic and fact. They didn't set your generation up for success and we will all suffer for it.
What is the methane emissions from melting permafrost in northern Canada and Siberia? As much as I love the archeological discoveries from the permafrost my concern is the massive release from permafrost? The slumping in the north is drastic visually but does that correlate to modern volumes?
Yes, to a large extent - look up "Methane Clathrate gun," basically there is a precursor to gaseous methane locked in much of the northern permafrost. Siberian infrastructure is already crumbling as their 'ground' gives way to mud and methane...
Last report i read on methane increases, much of the study came from ocean methane releases. Mass bacterial growths from ocean matter decay was producing a huge increase in methane, that report came out like 5-6 yrs ago.
@@timothymckee7693 The trivial amount of tritium (which is a natural product already found in all water) that they are releasing from Fukushima has exactly zero effect on climate.
@@keithj6251yes they are still dumping radioactive water into the ocean from fukushima due to a badly built nuclear reactor built by either ge or westinghouse. The oxygen levels are dropping in these areas due to die off of krill and plankton.
The 'Chasing ice' documentary mentioned the methane being released in 2012 so hardly unheard of. Also, anyone talking about cows and methane knows they don't fart it but burp it. These obvious omissions or incorrect statements makes me question the validity of the rest of it.
@@hotblack1166 Not just lakes but also much CH4 from the bottom of the shallow seas North of the great river mouths of Siberia which sea bottoms contain 100 's of times more gas than we could ever emit...
This video is full of speculations on top of speculations, on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without even realizing. There is no need of permafrost melting mentions since there is a lot of methane , the gas that Russia keep releasing into the air and into the sea since keep extracting petrol but the gas which is with it is not as much sold but released in the air.
Methane cannot build up in the air because it oxidises readily when exposed to UV light. More panic about non existent problem from limp wristed soy eating liberals.
I remember a show about large amounts of frozen methane under the north Atlantic coming to the surface as we get warmer. What an amazing balancing act the earth has
I'm going to check on this, but am throwing it out here now: I thought that the methane was being released from the oceans because of rising tempritures. Methane also causes the Earth to increase in tempriture, which is why scientists have been concerned about "runaway globalwarming."
Mainly the Arctic ocean and melting arctic tundra - there is a lot of methane that can be released up there. Note that "runaway global warming" wouldn't runaway forever as the spectral graph of the earth shifts slowly toward higher energy wavelengths that go around the absorption bands of GHGs. But certainly it can runaway from our ability to stop it if we don't like what is happening. This is essentially what a tipping point is - we get to a point and we will get 3 or 4 (or more) degrees of warming no matter what we do to emissions after that point - the warming is locked in out of our control. e.g. We can't control the methane coming out of the Arctic tundra or Arctic ocean. This is why reducing emissions drastically before the tipping points is so important.
And they called that Methane, Sulphur Di Oxide, Carbon Mon Oxides & Water Vapour CO2/Carbon Di Oxide, which they still do by the news broadcasters DWNews & France24.
My electronic principles lecture taught me this cyclic theory whilst learning satellite orbits and calculation position to signal strength.......that was early 90s and I've never heard of it discussed since....when ever I explain it to people I literally see there jaw drop....I worked for ESA on sat coms and literally nobody had heard of these cycles..... i will sendcthis video to people in future because I'm done explaining 😊
This video is full of speculations on top of speculations, on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without even realizing. There is no need of permafrost melting mentions since there is a lot of methane , the gas that Russia keep releasing into the air and into the sea since keep extracting petrol but the gas which is with it is not as much sold but released in the air.
trouble is - very rich people started paying directly into universities and pushed their own personal favourite 'cause' through this. In the past, very rich people doing this were after knowledge and truth. These days they are after more money and power without having to go through a ballot box!! There is the difference I believe.
JUst so incredible all the discoveries and corrections to previous amazing finds that ae being made across all sciences every day and I'm so so glad I came across your channel and a family of amazin subscribers that all have fascinating inputs to make and if not then at least are interested and have something to say and want to learn all these things, its weird as already I feel so much less depressed and alone as none of my friends are into the things I am which are exactly the things you make videos about! Your love of ALL sciences is so refreshing and just easier all round knowing I don't have to search through different channels when i fancy learning a bit more about a particular subject as you have it all, a bit of everything! :D
So: I’m not sure how your video found it’s way into my algorithm, but I’m glad it did. It’s informative, and not overly filled with jargon that will turn kids away! Thanks! Subscribing. 😊
This video is full of speculations on top of speculations, on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without knowing. There is no need of permafrost melting mention to explain the methane gas, since Russia keeps releasing such gas into the air and into the sea while is isolated by the embargo and manages to sell some of the petrol but not as much the gas present with the petrol.
@@MasterCommander. So you refute the data collected by in-situ and remote satellite probes ? The analysis of that data ? The conclusion drawn from that analysis ? If you're gonna go against a scientific paper's conclusion you better have more than conspiracy musings.
@@phillipwilliams3544 Your words: "If Washington was still under a kilometre of ice the world would have far less death and destruction " are deceit and lies. The Truth which has testified, is that imperfect humanity after the fall from Eden Ganbe, have created all the destruction, all the evil and death, releasing "The Snake" when were thrown out of Eden Ganbe together, "TheDeceiver" / "TheDestroyer" (biblically written "HaSaataan", has caused the death and destruction that you mention. We know and have already seen that even if none of the so called Western nations were to exist no more, and without Europe, North American and South American and without any English speaking, French speaking, Spanish speaking, and any European speaking languages, ALL THE OTHER NATIONS OF THE EARTH WILL STILL HAVE AS MUCH DESTRUCTION AND DEATH AS IS TODAY, BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEY HAD AS MUCH DESTRUCTION AND DEATH WHEN THEY WERE FEWER ON EARTH WHEN NO WESTERN NATION EXISTED DURING NOAH, AND EVEN AFTER NOAH UNTIL ABRAHAM. Therefore we correct you and advice you to stop deceiving , because through fake repentance, by sins such as lies and deceit, you made the divine protection which was set above you, to be greatly LESS, and due to have less protection, TheDeceiver- Lucifer "Shiny", (HaSaataan'a-Lah) beeing "A Great Deceiver" as he claimed those titles in his own quran, deceived by "Shining" as an 'angel of light' deceived of being "GabriEL-JibrieEL, he (Satan) and his evil spirits (demons) gain access (due to weakening the divine protection above you from YHWH) The Deceiver and his demons are able to come closer to you, to whisper into your brains or mind, DECEIT, to keep you enslaved to them through deceit, so they could keep you as a slave and have you on the other side, either to feed on you, or to rape you in the isolation zone of all corruption, sins (evil) and evil practitioners (such as you are, a sinner practitioner of all kinds of sins including betrayal and no loyalty toward The Eternal and Eternal's Divine Word that took human form under the name of YHWH Savior (YahShua), and toward some of your own relatives and friends, a evil practitioner headed toward the isolation zone toward agony and despair (if you continue to walk the path that you are in, right now). The Eternal Lord 'EL' YHWH due to EL 's love even toward you, had prompted me (after I said: "Lord he is not worthy"), nevertheless it appears that He has insisted since has prompted me to write those words which I wrote to you, yet without thinking because are not my words but His, trying to provide one more chance for your own good and salvation. Unless you truly repent and truly spiritually born again (not like the 95% of the fake and so called "Christians" but like the under 5% which truly have repented and truly have spiritually born again, where true Christians, babies in the sense of knowledge and trust in the Holy Scriptures, but that have become mature and are now MessiYAH'nic people of "Yah" , of YHWH, YHWH Savior certified according to Bible's 2 Chronicles 7:14 which testifies the words of YHWH (YaHWeH) short said "Yah" that: His people are called with Yah 's name, (later used for the Lamb of YHWH the Savior). They are MessiYah'nic due to their Savior The Divine MessiYah. It is up to you to repent and spiritually born again away from any religion including away from that of Atheism and of "is slam" and of Judaism, Buddhism and Hinduism ...etc, religions due to idol worshiping. Idolatry is religion according to The Eternal 'EL' YHWH, which defines religion as being idolatry worship through trust and love set above YHWH and YHWH's Word that took human form "YHWH Savior"), a trust and love toward the imperfect human Charles Darwin and his imperfect (therefore corrupt) so called "science" turned as an idol for very many, or other personal idols like money, a position of power, or fame, or toward a star of some kind, or toward an object, system, movement, or a pet, or toward a fake prophet, or toward anything and anyone (whether family or not) trust and love set above YHWH or YHWH Savior, such criminally directed (according to YHWH), greater trust and love directed toward a creature or created thing than toward The Divine Creator, ... is idolatry, therefore a personal insult or blasphemy against YHWH and YHWH's Eternal Word that took the human form "YHWH Savior" titled MessiYah and EmMan[u]EL (AmongMen[the]EternaL). YHWH and YHWH Savior, alone could save you into eternity's paradise of The Eternal, when the ancient miraculous gift "power to ascend" becomes visible to touch you to get empowered with it so that at the exit of your self awareness energy made copy from your mind and called "soul" set free at the death of the carnal body, get it's eternal destiny sealed with the already in the soul >power to ascend< (if getting it before death), to be able to ascend since without it you won't be able to ascend but descend toward the judgement for sentencing into eternal separation and damnation, away from YHWH and into the isolation zone of all corruption, sins (evil) and evil practitioners and demons in agony and despair for tens of thousands of years that will feel as if is "an eternity" due to the agony existent there in the isolation zone. You have a free will and is your life, your choice to make. You have been informed so that you won't have any valid, legal excuses during the judgement process when YHWH Savior "YahShua" (Judge over the human race, justified justly so, since that day of the divine sacrifice payment made), yet He won't represent you if you die without trust and love toward Him in your soul to have the power to ascend and to be justified free to ascend, having Judge's sacrificial payment made in your behalf.
TO @phillipwilliams3544 Your words: "If Washington was still under a kilometre of ice the world would have far less death and destruction " are deceit and lies. The Truth which has testified, is that imperfect humanity after the fall from Eden Ganbe, have created all the destruction, all the evil and death, releasing "The Snake" when were thrown out of Eden Ganbe together, "TheDeceiver" / "TheDestroyer" (biblically written "HaSaataan", has caused the death and destruction that you mention. We know and have already seen that even if none of the so called Western nations were to exist no more, and without Europe, North American and South American and without any English speaking, French speaking, Spanish speaking, and any European speaking languages, ALL THE OTHER NATIONS OF THE EARTH WILL STILL HAVE AS MUCH DESTRUCTION AND DEATH AS IS TODAY, BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEY HAD AS MUCH DESTRUCTION AND DEATH WHEN THEY WERE FEWER ON EARTH WHEN NO WESTERN NATION EXISTED DURING NOAH, AND EVEN AFTER NOAH UNTIL ABRAHAM. Therefore we correct you and advice you to stop deceiving , because through fake repentance, by sins such as lies and deceit, you made the divine protection which was set above you, to be greatly LESS, and due to have less protection, TheDeceiver- Lucifer "Shiny", (HaSaataan'a-Lah) beeing "A Great Deceiver" as he claimed those titles in his own quran, deceived by "Shining" as an 'angel of light' deceived of being "GabriEL-JibrieEL, he (Satan) and his evil spirits (demons) gain access (due to weakening the divine protection above you from YHWH) The Deceiver and his demons are able to come closer to you, to whisper into your brains or mind, DECEIT, to keep you enslaved to them through deceit, so they could keep you as a slave and have you on the other side, either to feed on you, or to rape you in the isolation zone of all corruption, sins (evil) and evil practitioners (such as you are, a sinner practitioner of all kinds of sins including betrayal and no loyalty toward The Eternal and Eternal's Divine Word that took human form under the name of YHWH Savior (YahShua), and toward some of your own relatives and friends, a evil practitioner headed toward the isolation zone toward agony and despair (if you continue to walk the path that you are in, right now). The Eternal Lord 'EL' YHWH due to EL 's love even toward you, had prompted me (after I said: "Lord he is not worthy"), nevertheless it appears that He has insisted since has prompted me to write those words which I wrote to you, yet without thinking because are not my words but His, trying to provide one more chance for your own good and salvation. Unless you truly repent and truly spiritually born again (not like the 95% of the fake and so called "Christians" but like the under 5% which truly have repented and truly have spiritually born again, where true Christians, babies in the sense of knowledge and trust in the Holy Scriptures, but that have become mature and are now MessiYAH'nic people of "Yah" , of YHWH, YHWH Savior certified according to Bible's 2 Chronicles 7:14 which testifies the words of YHWH (YaHWeH) short said "Yah" that: His people are called with Yah 's name, (later used for the Lamb of YHWH the Savior). They are MessiYah'nic due to their Savior The Divine MessiYah. It is up to you to repent and spiritually born again away from any religion including away from that of Atheism and of "is slam" and of Judaism, Buddhism and Hinduism ...etc, religions due to idol worshiping. Idolatry is religion according to The Eternal 'EL' YHWH, which defines religion as being idolatry worship through trust and love set above YHWH and YHWH's Word that took human form "YHWH Savior"), a trust and love toward the imperfect human Charles Darwin and his imperfect (therefore corrupt) so called "science" turned as an idol for very many, or other personal idols like money, a position of power, or fame, or toward a star of some kind, or toward an object, system, movement, or a pet, or toward a fake prophet, or toward anything and anyone (whether family or not) trust and love set above YHWH or YHWH Savior, such criminally directed (according to YHWH), greater trust and love directed toward a creature or created thing than toward The Divine Creator, ... is idolatry, therefore a personal insult or blasphemy against YHWH and YHWH's Eternal Word that took the human form "YHWH Savior" titled MessiYah and EmMan[u]EL (AmongMen[the]EternaL). YHWH and YHWH Savior, alone could save you into eternity's paradise of The Eternal, when the ancient miraculous gift "power to ascend" becomes visible to touch you to get empowered with it so that at the exit of your self awareness energy made copy from your mind and called "soul" set free at the death of the carnal body, get it's eternal destiny sealed with the already in the soul >power to ascend< (if getting it before death), to be able to ascend since without it you won't be able to ascend but descend toward the judgement for sentencing into eternal separation and damnation, away from YHWH and into the isolation zone of all corruption, sins (evil) and evil practitioners and demons in agony and despair for tens of thousands of years that will feel as if is "an eternity" due to the agony existent there in the isolation zone. You have a free will and is your life, your choice to make. You have been informed so that you won't have any valid, legal excuses during the judgement process when YHWH Savior "YahShua" (Judge over the human race, justified justly so, since that day of the divine sacrifice payment made), yet He won't represent you if you die without trust and love toward Him in your soul to have the power to ascend and to be justified free to ascend, having Judge's sacrificial payment made in your behalf.
Thank you for a well produced and highly informative presentation. Isn't it true that there are two more major factors which contribute even more to release of methane? Solar cycles of increased and highly variable radiation levels in which we are currently reaching an 11 year maxima (remember also that our earth is miniscule in comparison to our Sun). Secondly there have been many academic papers exhibiting significant evidence that approx every 12,000 years , a Geo Magnetic Excursion event (GME) takes place on earth (a pole shift). The reduction in earths magnetic field due to the GME also greatly reduces our protection from our Suns increasing radiation. These two factors may sugnificantly disrupt our Earths albido, perhaps with even greater effect than methane alone. Would these be interesting subjects to consider in one of your videos? Keep up the great work.
I - as a physicist would expect the 11 year solar cycle (which goes along with a net increased energy flow when there is more solar activity) is not playing any big role in general climate (as in long term trend) but rather in cylclic weather phenomena. Simply put: 11 years cylce is most likely too short compared to the long term changes we are observing to effectively drive / support those processes. You can understand this as with a pendulum having a resonance frequency. If you are at the resonance frequency, you pump a lot of energy into the pendulum and always increase it's motion. If you are far off resonance there is not much energy gain. It's like with a swing, you always push your child on the swing when the swing arrives where you are and thus match the frequency and effectively get it higher and higher. If you'd just push it randomly (either just once at the start - much lower frequency - or erratically all the time even when the swing comes your way, you will get a much worse experience).
@@DerKiesch There is actually LESS solar radiation reaching the surface of the earth right now than there was 100 years ago. There simply is NO WAY the sun is having any effect on the global increase in temperature we have seen over the last several decades. no. way.
As a geologist I am fascinated by the fact that, in any case, no one of us will see another ice age, for sure. But in the future this will be something humans will deal with , and there is no anthropic global warming that could avoid this 🤣
So wrong as we head toward Venus-like earth with 'Runaway Greenhouse Effect'. Won't happen in mine or your lifetime but over a very short timeframe in Geological timespan terms! We already see the early effects of this happening on a global basis currently! 😂😂😂
@@rossmcpherson4998 We cannot compare the earth with Venus which is outside the sun's habitable zone. Venus' atmosphere consists of over 960,000 PPM CO2 which means over 96% CO2. Venus' atmosphere is so thick that the pressure on the surface of Venus is like 900 meters deep in the ocean. The Earth's atmosphere consists of around 420 PPM CO2 which is 0.042% CO2. There were 7,000 to 8,000 PPM CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere 540 million years ago. The lowest CO2 in Earth's atmosphere ever recorded over hundred of million years was 180 PPM around 20,000 years ago during the last ice age. At 150 PPM CO2, all plant life begins to die out due to photosynthesis stopping. The average temperature on Earth is now 15 degrees Celsius (59 °F). The Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum (PETM) about 55-56 million years ago had an average temperature on Earth of 27.2-34.5 °C (81.0-94.1 °F). Around 90% of the time in the last 250 million years, the Earth has been so warm that the Arctic and Antarctic have been ice-free. About 2.7 million years ago, the Earth began to experience ice ages. They typically lasted 30,000 years with a 30,000-year warm period before another ice age. In the last 500,000 years, we have had ice ages that lasted an average of 90,000 years, followed by a warm period that lasted an average of 10,000 years. Large parts of North America and Northern Europe were covered by a 3km-thick ice cap. The ice went so far south that even New York and Manhattan were covered by it. Did you know that for no more than 10,000 years ago the sea was so low that you would have been able to walk from England to France without getting your feet wet. There is always climate change on Earth. Either it moves towards colder times or it moves towards warmer times. We are now in a warm period after a long cold period from around 1200 to around 1900 called the Little Ice Age. I will also include the atmosphere of Mars where it is freezing cold. CO2 is almost as high as Venus with over 95% CO2. The atmosphere is so thin that it has a density of less than 1% of the Earth's atmosphere.
I’m convinced that the people commenting here as if this video is arguing against the idea of anthropogenic climate change either didn’t understand the video or didn’t actually watch it all the way to the end.
I, for one, welcome an end to the ice age. I like forests and prefer them to glaciers on an aesthetic level. It doesn't really bother me that coasties might have to move in a few centuries. I'd just think it was funny if places like New York and LA were submerged by the ocean. It's what I like to call "Not my problem."
Hard to watch it to the end when the wool is pulled over our audience eyes from thee beginning ... I find that these yt documentaries from "scientists" search bars tend to omit the billions & turf squabbles invested in melting the Arctic, which is the driving force behind the excess release of major greenhouse gases and compounds, including METHANE, CO₂, nitrous oxide, and mercury. These emissions accelerate due to China-EU new Silk Road shipping routes-aka the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). These gases and chemicals released from melting permafrost and glaciers contribute heavily to the acceleration of toxins, geo-shift (your "climate change"), with methane and CO₂ being the most mentioned of toxicity... but yeah- keep bypassing corp biz-gov't culprits & blaming cow farts and "natural" planetary events??
You went past permafrost melting quite quick, I think it’s worth exploring that deeper. The tropics have been producing methane for a very long time already but the permafrost melting is very recent.
You’ve identified the fatal flaw in the video. The speed of climate change suggests a cause other than the gradual changes of past geological history. Such a basic error suggests either ignorance or worse on the part of the video maker.
There is no speed and no it wouldn't even entirely proof the point. It would still be a working hypothesis with lots of anti thesis like the global greening effect of co2. And what people like you don't understand is that nature isn't that harmonic thing that only moves slowly. Nature comes with huge events that impact the whole globe faster than what humans are doing, with the very same atoms: co2. In other words: at some point permafrost will become water. With or without humans. Just because a human activity correlates to an event in nature doesn't prove anything. Correlation is not causation. We had a mass die off of correl reefs just 10 years ago. No one really knew why but scientists had all kids of speculations from global warming, to chemicals in the water. We didn't do shit but the coral reefs have began to regenerate by themselves and science found out that sometimes, on really rare occasions, coral reefs get ill and die of to 80-90% of what they were just for the surviving 10-20% to regenerate. You can try to stabilize the climate all day long. The climate is going to do what it is going to do and the best scientists of the planet can't predict the next 2 weeks. Welcome to reality.
@@Noqtis « What people like you don’t understand » is a little condescending, don’t you think? Rather ad-hominem when we should be discussiing the merits and effects of a real problem. And « welcome to reality » is another slur to justify bias. Clearly this thread has degenerated.
In 2023 it's getting more and more rare for people to be able to say those all important words, "We don't know." People have gotten so damn terrified to admit they don't know something. Everything thinks they know everything. It forces everyone to pick a team and fight fight fight! Ignorance has become an insult, and it shouldn't We should embrace it. The first step to solving any problem is admitting there is one. You can't stop being ignorant on a topic until you admit you don't know. It's refreshing as hell to hear someone say the truth...... we don't know what this path of climate change is going to lead to. We have guesses. We don't have answers. Yet, anyway.
We have guesses that are akin to watching a car speed towards a cement wall. In other words, anything could technically happen, but the outcome looks to be pretty certain that we're melting off our ice caps, which doesn't bode well for where we've built most cities, and doesn't bode well for where we grow most crops.
We don't know everything about human bodies either. Doesn't mean we should stop treatments until we understand them fully. Same with climate change, it is better to be safe than sorry. And the correlation found between humans accelerating climate change is very heavy, so it would be a very low chance for it to be something else than us causing the spike.
@@philosophist9562 It's like our doctor is telling us hey so your diet combined with lack of exercise, lack of good sleep, too much exposure to chemicals and air pollutants, and your general overall health are not looking super good for your overall outcome, would you like to maybe do something about all that, and climate deniers are like nah I think we're good, I googled it, I think I know my health and human health in general better than you or any doctor (who've spent their careers studying and practicing the art and science of trying to keep people healthy). We can pretend like we know climate science better than climate scientists, and we can pretend like the things they're telling us are simply not the truth, but one way or another, the truth is catching up to all of us, and it will only continue to get worse for a lot of people on our planet until we drastically reduce our fossil fuel consumption, as a species. Nature doesn't really care what we do or what we think. Nature is a feedback system. No one is outside of it completely.
I noticed you make zero mention of the solar cycles which definitely must be part of the process in the warming/cooling of the earth. (How much radiation is even sent our way, BEFORE we're even talking about absorption/reflection)
Solar forcing is important, but on time scales relevant to human history solar irradiance is practically constant. Even near solar minimum, when galactic comic rays have easier access to Earth, and during the solar maximum, their spectrum remains relatively constant in energy and composition, varying only slowly with time. Just as the solar cycle follows a roughly elven year cycle, so does galactic cosmic rays with its maximum. No mechanism has been discovered for variations in the solar wind or magnetic field to affect Earth's climate significantly. It's a red herring when folk claim these forcing do; popular on "climate skeptic" pseudoscience blogs, but we know once a talking point gains inertia in the "skeptic" echo chamber, it never dies. The steady decline in energy output, the 11 year cycle in sunspots, and the variations in the solar wind shows no correlation with climate on annual, decadal, nor century scales.
@@rps1689 I seriously doubt that the Sun 🌞 which is 98 or 99% of the mass of the solar system has minimal influence on planet Earth. I'm pretty sure its impact is way more than just being a constant. Likely it determines the entry and exit from ice ages, tectonic shifts of the planet, orbital distance, volcanism, irradiance...etc.
@@mtrest4 No one said it has a minimal impact on Earth. Solar energy output is highly predictable, on time scales relevant to humans. Total solar irradiance (energy output) varies one part in a thousand on an eleven year cycle. Another part in a thousand when there's a pause in sunspots. These well known variations have no correlation with climate.
Agree on the "don't make a mess in the nest". But even if we would have lived like people did in the preindustrial periods, (without any kind of thechnology), this global warmup still would have happened.
When discussing obliquity at about 6:20, the graphics show melting north polar sea ice. This perpetuates the incorrect conclusion that floating ice that melts will contribute to sea level rise. Generally, only melting land based glaciers can contribute to sea level rise.
The Antarctica and Greenland ice sheets hold massive amounts of water ice that would lead to significant rises in sea level, were they to melt. Other land based glaciers such as those on mountains, if melted, would add a comparatively insignificant amount to sea level rise. Don’t worry though. It would take an enormous amount of energy to melt those ice sheets, especially that in Antarctica.
False, if glaciers melt from ice caps those ice bergs aren't tied to the ice caps any more, which inevitably means they'll drift around until they melt.
Dear Dr. Ben, Thank you for this. I have an observation. Those, like me, who are a little slower in our thinking than you (well, probably a lot slower) would be much more able to grasp the import of the graphs which you present, if you were to show them on-screen for a little longer and sometimes with more informative labelling. Best wishes.
I thought I read the methane was outgassing from tundra as the permafrost was melting due to rotting biomass - that is why there is more methane in the arctic. Also, with the warming oceans there is the Clathrate Gun Hypothesis. Even if we stop all emissions right now there is a couple of degrees c of increase already baked in. With 38c events in Siberia the tundra is definitely melting. Areas of the Canadian arctic are falling into the water as the permafrost melts.
That is one source among many. Some of these sinkholes that have been found are also producing far more methane than just the degradation of the permafrost can account for. i.e. underground methane sources.
Theoretically, there is only a finite amount of methane under the frozen tundra, yet to be released. Lets say that all of the tundra melts and all the methane gets out. In that scenario all the methane released will break down within 10 years, as mentioned in the video. So the impact of tundra methane may be large but only very briefly, meaning in terms of the equation of the contents of our overall atmospheric system, that methane is not important. It will be released and then break down. What's far more important however, is finding the sources of methane that keep pumping into the atmosphere for years on end. So abandoned natural gas and oil wells, for example, will be pumping methane for years and years to come. These are the sources to focus on. Another reason to put focus there is that it's a source we can stop. We can't stop the tundra from melting, it's too late for that, but we can cap off an abandoned oil well.
@@Fishpizza1212 er, methane's high warming effects may last only a (relatively) short time, BUT methane degrades into co2 which has a smaller warming effect but lasts a very long time + water vapor ch4 + 2*o2 = co2 + 2*h2o
Wow. Just noticed the "Context" warning. Disappointing but not surprising. All the more reason to watch this and share it with as many people as you can. Thank you Dr. Ben Miles for putting this out there.
I love the "Context" the youtubes felt obligated to tag this video with. I'm not sure I'm entirely comfortable thinking for myself and feel better now that I have this correction from a highly reputable organization, in this case the UN, to tell me how to do it.
12,000 years ago was an anomaly, the Younger Dryas. The last glacial max was 130,000 years ago. The next ice age will occur after global warming leads to the cessation of ocean currents and the equatorial currents no longer warm the polar regions, which will in turn lead to snow and ice raising the reflectivity of those polar regions, and subsequently rapid global cooling.
There's drop stones in Central Park from 20000 yrs ago that were left behind due to retreating glaciers. You are a fool if you think you can ever be clever enough to understand the climate. This bloke is just someone bigging up there magic graph .
This video is full of speculations on top of speculations, on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without knowing. There is no need of permafrost melting mention to explain the methane gas, since Russia keeps releasing such gas into the air and into the sea while is isolated by the embargo and manages to sell some of the petrol but not as much the gas present with the petrol.
@@LarryEllis-z1f The AMOC (Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation), which circulates water from north to south and back in a long cycle within the Atlantic Ocean, and thus is _vitally important_ - and I'm not exaggerating here - for the continuance of life on this planet (please read up on it) is *already* compromised and seems to be slowing down quite a bit faster than previously predicted. If/when it comes to the proverbial standstill, it will be catastrophic...for us, that is. The planet itself will simply continue. We won't.
Thank you for explaining things in a manner that many should be able to understand. For years, since I was at an event hosting Patrick Moore and based on various lectures I have attended I have attempted to explain the various cycles and events that have had a dramatic effect on how this planet developed. Now I just need to point them here. I still however find it difficult to get some to undertsand that just about everything on this planet is carbon based.
The expression, "until I was blue in the face or if the cow jumped over the moon, when hell freezes over comes to mind. I, like you point out to people that a train is about to hit them unless they get off....
@@Madmanrealmad Define "things on earth". Define "carbon based" and "silicon based". Describe, succinctly, how in the context of this video, your comment is not utter idiocy.
This video is full of speculations built on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without knowing. Vain mention of permafrost melting to explain the methane gas, while Russia keeps releasing such gas into the air and into the sea & ocean while is isolated by the embargo. Russia still extracts petrol & sells some, but not as much the gas present with it, which is released into the air.
The point that may be missed here is accelerated forest and range fires is producing more CO2 instead of microbial decomposition which produces more methane. There is an ecological positive to wildfire. There is another great benefit from animal grazing as well, but society is largely not being informed of this benefit.
@@WSmith_1984 Humans are the independent variable that causes the equation to change. Nature typically doesn't pump 100 million barrels of carbon out of the ground per day, and the time when it did it do that it almost killed all life on earth. Other species have changed the atmosphere before us too for better or worse. Just because the fountain moves so much water doesn't mean dripping water into it wouldn't cause it to overflow.
the methane ice deposits are deep under water while there is no real change in temperature below 200m, now. This will be a massive problem when the heat reaches these deposits but currently this isn't the case, thanks god.
@@WSmith_1984 NO we are not, please actually listen to the video. Yes half of it is produced naturally, but it is produced naturally due to the rising temps, which are vastly human influenced, and the other halof is purely human produced
What a great video. I'm really happy I found this rather than the usual partisan views on this subject. Ultimately we don't know what the future holds, but we can always do our best to consume responsibly and care for what we can with diligence.
Basically you're saying we can burn as much coal, gas and petroleum as feel like and not feel guilty about doing it. Of course those resources are finite and will run out.
Of course they're finite.... thus they need to be managed.... that does not mean stopped completely.... also what is still available ! Noone seems to know.... completely stopping research and use is completely redicoulous when you do not have an alternative.. we need to he integrate into an energy system. This will never happen because of the climate change fanatics... they are not open to debate... they are not open to reason.... they only have one stupid agenda and that's.. STOP... All reason has gone out of the window to be replaced with rhetoric... what's the point of the human race if we do not have reason... Our powers of thought are be replaced with agenda.... That's total stupidity
@@donadams8345 not sure exactly how you read and comprehend, but to me it reads quite differently "do our best to consume responsibly" seems a long way from "consume with reckless abandon"...
When the carbon based fuels run out in thousands of years, unless we have previously found and implemented a cheap and effective alternative, we, too, will run out. Windmills will never replace carbon fuels. Maybe nuclear though.
@@edwardcoulter9361 There are a lot of developments, cheaper, production line style thorium reactors which are far less dangerous than current style.. free energy is with SAITH technologies and Maxwell Chikumbutso and last i saw 6 countries were franchised to build free energy generators and cars... others have the same tech now too...carbon based fuels don't actually run out, that is just a marketing ploy, the biggest markup for any commodity is scarcity... so that is simply a value added market manipulation based in false assumptions... and of course the invested parties will do what is needed to stay in business as long as they possibly can.... including assassination... which is why we don't have water cars (Fukushima was just nearby a water car factory that somehow became defunct shortly after...) and free energy tech... however, they do know it's unstoppable so are pushing profits as hard as they can, while they can...
wait, i thought it was all settled science? one thing i don't hear about much is the marine CO2 sink. many people hand wring about CO2 causing acidic seas, but, planktonic life is a huge fixer of CO2 in the form of calcite tests. so i figure a lot of CO2 will be fixed in the sea as plankton thrives in warmer water, such as during the cretaceous. enjoyed the video. especially the clear explanation of the orbital and rotational cycles and how they relate to glaciation events.
The reefs were starving the world of co2 12 thousand years ago, co2 was 15 ppm away from photosynthesis stopping all over the planet co2 gets a bad wrap but is the planet actually better off with more of it ?
The role of oceans in absorbing CO2 is a well studied part of environmental science. You realize that one of the results of those studies is that the oceans are not keeping up with the rising CO2 production. Many natural sinks for CO2 have increased the amount of CO2 they absorb as human production of CO2 has increased. However, the result is CO2 levels are rising in the atmosphere despite this. We have over 70 years of direct measurement showing this.
Using 70 years of data is great, but there’s data showing hundreds of millions of years that CO2 levels now are lower than they’ve ever been in the history of the planet for at least the past 300 million years
@ManofLetters Someone has lied to you. There are data for CO2 levels for up to 800,000 years. There estimates CO2 levels that go back about 50 million years. The 70 years I referred to are only direct measurement of the atmosphere on an ongoing basis. Geologists first made the connection between past CO2 levels and Earth's average temperature towards the end of the 19th Century. Earth's CO2 levels have been much higher millions of years ago. But, before the 18th Century, CO2 levels were stable at 280 ppm for around 10,000 years. At no point in the last 400,000 years has CO2 levels exceeded 300 ppm. Since then, CO2 has been rising, and is over 420 ppm currently. The last time there was this much CO2 in the atmosphere was about 800,000 years ago. All of human history and civilization has been in a world with a much lower CO2 levels.
No mention made of the rapid movement of the magnetosphere (magnetic north pole) these past 130 years and how this also plays a role in the sudden natural changes of this planet. Industral revolution just coincidental in the time line of natures cycles. A better integration of other major componants need to be inserted into the equation. This is also a component to consider. Good video.
That is because the changing poles has not been shown to be a major Milankovitch driver in the past. And those past changing poles history changes is well documented and known. Could it be a factor, I have no clue. But what I do know is that it is not a major factor. This was a short video trying to cover all the important factors ... not an all inclusive to cover the entire details of everything related. That would entail an entire (and am sure rather long) series.
@@edwardcoulter9361 There could possibly be more volcanism activity during poles shifts ... which will influence weather and climate patterns. Earth's magnetic field protects Earth, and possibly during a shift that could weaken and allow more radiation and solar winds. Which again will influence weather and climate. There has also been suggested theories that high energy particles trapped in the Van Allen Belt could be released. Again I do not know if this actually is the case or if so, how extreme or minimal it would be. What we do know is there is nothing to suggest it has been a major factor. But there is definitely a possibility it could potentially be a likely more minor factor.
This video is full of speculations on top of speculations, on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without even realizing. There is no need of permafrost melting mentions since there is a lot of methane , the gas that Russia keep releasing into the air and into the sea since keep extracting petrol but the gas which is with it is not as much sold but released in the air.
I just remembered that I was in the same place on May 11th, 2001 when I heard Douglas died as I was when September 11th, 2001 went down. Huh, 4 months to the day. That was not a good year.
@@MiloDebuque Are you really comparing a terrorist attack that killed over 6,000 people to the death of a second rate author who had one cult classic?!
@@wayneyadams What? Of course not. Simply stating the fact that I was at the same job, in the same building when both of those things occurred. I didn't compare anything to anything. Not sure how that was your takeaway.
@@MiloDebuque When you said you remembered where you were when both events happened giving the impression that the death of Adams had the same memorable impact as 9/11. You then went on to state the similarity in dates, adding that it was a bad year all around. The whole message implied, whether you meant it or not, that the death of Adams had the same impact as 9/11.
Enjoyed this. Thanks for explaining with the use of data and for keeping the typical fearmongering on the shelf. I found this both interesting and educational
@@incognitotorpedo42 Oh it changes it, because if it does come out true that man-made CO2 is just a tiny fraction of the puzzle, then radical shifts to new energy forms that are expensive would wipe poor people out. Poor people, especially in 3rd world countries, rely on fossil fuels the most
@@incognitotorpedo42 It shows that there is more to understand about climate. Climate change is bad is such a misleading take. Climate change is a natural process, but our contribution to pollution, greenhouse gas emissions, and other negative factors may be impacting that natural process in some ways. In other words, we still have a ways to go in understanding what is dying as a result of us, and what is changing because of the natural process of earth changing.
@incognitotorpedo42 in the 1700s the Thames River would freeze over in summer. I believe it was 1741 that was called the year with no summer across the northern hemisphere where there was massive crop failure due to lack of sunlight/warmth. Now I'm fairly sure this natural climate change/fluctuation happened before the industrial revolution
Wow , hearing a scientist saying that honestly they do not know something is refreshing ! Thank you for this video and I have to say it was definatly interesting and educational . I'll be following and sharing this channel thanks again
Of course there are plenty of creationists who use that knowledge (or lack of thereof) to prove that scientists don't know anything and the truth is written in a holy book.
He is not a climate scientist but a has a Ph.D. in nano-physics and worked on synthetic human insulin creation!! He is a scientist of very small things and his climate opinion half-truths are shameful as he can't see the Big Picture in Biosphere terms that we've experienced to allow human species development which have only existed for some several million years with us in the "Goldilocks Zone" which we have almost inexorably altered to now having to face an existential crisis! He ignores the difference 9Bn. people NOW using over 60% of earth's natural resources exclusively, at 150% of replacement rate! Totally unsustainable as we rape and loot our 'free good' natural environment which has produced us, naturally!!! Good luck for the future! 🤣🤣🤣
Nature has a way to deal with changes. CO2 increase leads to increased plant growth, which consumes the CO2 and controls it. Which is why they're more trees and plants growing at a more rapid rate than before. Methane doesn't last long in the atmosphere due to our relative high O2 content, breaking it down into water vapor and CO2, which is just more plant food. That's why i don't fully follow the "runaway greenhouse" models.
Nature does. The Earth's climate is an output of a thermodynamic system which seeks thermal equilibrium with surrounding space. Any change in the factors which determine the equilibrium point causes the system to seek a new equilibrium point. For example, a change in the thermal impedance of the atmosphere due to added greenhouse gases. Basically; the adding of CO2 to the atmosphere changes the thermal equilibrium point between the planet's climate system and space. "Returning" the system to equilibrium manifests as global warming.
Small increases in CO2 concentration has major effects. A key reason is the length of time CO2 remains in the atmosphere. Like Methane and carbon, CO2 does not condense, and like methane and chlorofluorocarbons it isn’t particularly chemically reactive or easily broken down by light in the troposphere. For these reasons, they all remain in the atmosphere for anywhere from years to centuries or even longer, depending on the gas. In contrast, a molecule of water vapour stays in the atmosphere just nine days, on average. It then gets recycled as rain or snow. Its amounts don’t accumulate, despite its much larger relative quantities.
CO2 is not only a life giver, it is also a waste product from fossil fuels that has made some ecosystems, agricultural zones, and feeding grounds we depend on not adaptable enough to the current climate change trend.
How about the hydrated-methane at the bottom of the ocean? The carbon content of this hydrated methane is greater than all the hydrocarbons in all the rock (reservoirs) in the earth. One place where this has been detected is the shallow sea north of Russia, now that the sea ice has melted.
It's interesting a person with your avatar name - a character of a con man from the film Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, be asking about the "validity of the data" - yeah we noticed. It's certainly a LOT More accurate than the people running about claiming "people are boiling to death in their own sweat !!!! " - ANY person who give those crazies even the merest shred of validity deserves to mocked forevermore.
@@rafezetter8003 it's far less accurate. Most of the data is basically useless. Temperature stations cover maybe ten percent of the planet. And most of those are intentionally placed near heat sources to make everything seem warmer. Plus we have more than enough proof scientists are modifying the data to make it look like the planet is warming.
Science fact constantly changes, therfore where is the final truth that they claim to possess? Who knows? Next year, there will be data that throws their old conclusions out the window. Hubris prevents most people from seeing this simple fact. How dare someone not buy into their "facts" 100%.
Dinosaur’s Kept very detailed Records!!! Yes I Know it’s ice core samples. Although having a Bureaucratic Scientific class of Dinosaurs sounds pretty Cool!! 😂😂
I am curious. You stated the last termination event occurred around 11,000 years ago. If you factor in the possibility of a younger dryas impact. That could explain the short gap between events. As the impact would have made a drastic change to the atmosphere and environment, releasing more gases and melting glaciers. That would then make the current event we are seeing more in line with normal cycles. Curious your thoughts
I would correct that finding, as a peer review, to ‘how fool every one is nowadays’. I call it ‘The Snakeoil Era’. How easily it’s purchased in a data-driven world.
@@kayurien845because the politically manipulated drones can do the mental gymnastics to make any information that doesn’t fit their narrative suddenly all the evil they’ve been trained to identify. They’re insane. Like, I wouldn’t be surprised if they claimed this is racist. They’re that manipulated.
@@theclinchmma4126 except it fits narrative quite well; there is feedback loop mechanism explained in this vid, where by incerasing co2 level you raise overall temperature, hence increase growth and decay of plants which increase methane levels, which increase overall heat and so on...its also worth noting, that methane increase curve neatly follow curve of co2 levels increase during industrial era (as graph of metane increase at 15:15 shows)...same mechanism apllyies for water vapor, which is by far "best" greenhouse gas and works in same symbiosis (these are very basic and general informations which you can found at wikipedia)...all that said i would like mention, that this research isn´t done by some "guerilla-indenpendent truth seekers", this is possible only due to massive cooperation of world-wide data collecting by...guess who; mainstream, government funded, scientists who generaly agree on human impact to global worming...and here is other thing; there is always green lobby implied in "green lunacy" debates...i dunno, by how does this powerfull green lobby overpayed oil-industrial-agro lobby?
@@theclinchmma4126 except it fits narrative quite well; there is feedback loop mechanism explained in this vid, where by incerasing co2 level you raise overall temperature, hence increase growth and decay of plants, which increase methane levels, which increase overall heat and so on...its also worth noting, that methane increase curve neatly follow curve of co2 levels increase during industrial era (as graph of metane increase at 15:15 shows)...same mechanism appllies for water vapor, which is by far "best" greenhouse gas and works in same symbiosis (these are very basic and general informations which you can found at wikipedia)...all that said i would like to mention, that this research isn´t done by some "guerilla-indenpendent truth seekers", this is possible only due to massive cooperation of world-wide data collecting by...guess who; mainstream, government funded, scientists who generaly agree on human impact to global worming...and here is other thing; there is always green lobby implied in "green lunacy" debates...i dunno, but how does this powerfull green lobby overpay oil-industrial-agro lobby?
Yes, we are currently still in the Holocene epoch. The Holocene began approximately 11,700 years ago, following the end of the last glaciation. It is the current geological epoch and is characterized by relatively stable and warm climatic conditions, which have allowed human civilizations to flourish.
@@aaronjennings8385 not at all. There's some doubt as to whether to call it at point of ignition of the first atom bomb in NM or in the 50s/60s like the Canadian paper just released put it. But no delusions. We're most definitely in a new epoch.
@@camojoe83 According to the International Union of Geological Sciences (IUGS), the professional organization in charge of defining Earth's time scale, we are officially in the Holocene epoch, which began 11,700 years ago (after the last major ice age).
This is one of the few pieces I have seen touching on Milankovitch cycles, or really any factor other than CO2 in earth’s warming/cooling cycles. Thanks!
Fun fact: Milankovitch cycles don't change the Watts/square meter enough to account for ice ages. But the difference is enough to trigger increased CO2 release, which warms the planet.
I mean.... I might be just a dummy... certainly am not a rocket therapist!.... But isn't the problem that Mother Earth needs to put away CO2 somewhere temporarily to help lower the climate... and release it to warm things up again. But like.... because we fcked her into submission... there is no where for Mother Earth to put the CO2, at a time when YES, she should be putting it away somewhere naturally right about now. But not only is there no where to put this stuff... because it is time for it to not be here so much.... but the places she used to store it... like SIberia, Canada.... are releasing it because its full, and too warm to keep putting it away. SO?I mean.... yes.... we should be about to enter a period of climate cooling..... the current measurable temp records are as high today as (sciency words inbound!) the lower range of the plateau reached for highest temp since right after the end of the last glacial period..... so like... when things naturally warmed up, that max temps wobbly but very tight and flatish line on the graph? yea the bottom of that line is where we are now..... things SHOULD be getting colder. It is just time... we even know how long it should take... and how gradual it should drop. But the mechanism to DO that is broken... because we fckd Mother Nature into submission, for the sake of convenience and consumerism. I mean.... there is NOTHING we can do about it now. But I bet our descendants are going to think we were pretty selfish and shtty to them... even though we didn't learn about this problem until Al Gore told us. (we did learn about it then right? and not decades before, when the oil companies covered it up with money?) long story short? I am smart enough to know that We did not do for the kids what was best for them out of selfishness...... So they will do to us what they need to out of selfishness. They will break Society's back over their knee... and create what we write about in satire and political horror stories because it is the most convenient way to kill us all, and take our stuff away. I really hope I live long enough to see the first few hundred CEO's get their heads cut off on live TV. I truly am alive during a very interesting time for Humanity.
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Ice age termination event wtf man! We are going extinct!!!!!
No 'official' scientist includes the mnp movement factor in their public debate. Might lose their jobs. It could be the final nail. Methane turning to co2 after 10yrs also can easily account for that increase.
Is the Earth flat too?
Could you please make a video about this paper?
Nikolov N, Zeller K (2017) _New Insights on the Physical Nature of the Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect Deduced from an Empirical Planetary Temperature Model._ Environ Pollut Climate Change 1:112.s
I'm very surprised TH-cam allowed an actual scientific discussion of a controversial topic. Well done, sir.
It's almost like youtube doesn't care at all. Crazy.
TH-cam hasn’t got an algorithm for you yet.
He did not mention the dreaded words and has produced an intelligent reason for the Ice Melts.
So very true. youtube/google doesn't like people presenting alternative thoughts/theories. They only allow what fits the narrative of the day. Such a very dangerous time we live in when the most powerful information brokers on the planet control what information you are allowed to consume or even view.
@@willdeit6057 If you actually watched the video you would realize that he is explaining why we are even more screwed than we originally determined since we have not only increased the global atmospheric content of CO2 by over 50% in a couple hundred years, we did it on top of of what would already be a natural ice age termination event. It's a bit like turning the furnace on full blast for a week only to find out the weatherman is predicting there is going to be a natural heat wave on top of it.
Glad you mentioned that we're STILL in an ice age and made the distinction between ice ages and glacial periods. So many people just skim that entirely.
All the climate activists and scientists especially
No, it happens regardless of political leanings, especially with people who aren't geologists or climate scientists.@@WhiteCheddar.
the mere fact the doc thinks the idea that humans as are today, can control climate and nature which existed several hundred million years if not couple billion is hilarious to say the least 🤭, we are inconsequential to the planet, can merely try to understand it nothing we do or try can remotely shift the planets predestined cyclic nature.
The UN climate committee is only allowed to consider CO2. That do not look at other variables.
This always gets my goat 🐐
I am an 80's baby. The entirety of my schooling, we were taught that we are in an ice age and are coming out of it. This isn't new information, they just quit teaching it in school.
That is very interesting. I did not know that
Just like they stopped teaching cursive and started teaching "gender identity studys" ... They are failing our children
Same here. Heck, I even remember the "coming ice age" was featured on the TV series " In search off" starring Leonard Nimoy. I was in grade school at the time.
The permafrost melting explains the methane spike. I don't understand why this wasn't mentioned at the outset of this video. It was predicted decades ago and is happening now.
They already to at least a degree accounted for that.
From NASA:
"Methane comes from both natural sources and human activities. An estimated 60% of today’s methane emissions are the result of human activities. The largest sources of methane are agriculture, fossil fuels, and decomposition of landfill waste. Natural processes account for 40% of methane emissions, with wetlands being the largest natural source. (Learn more about the Global Methane Budget.)"
And:
"These aircraft and satellite instruments are finding methane rising from oil and gas production, pipelines, refineries, landfills, and animal agriculture. In some cases, these measurements have led to leaks being fixed, including suburban gas leaks and faulty equipment in oil and gas fields.
The Arctic is a source of natural methane from wetlands, lakes, and thawing permafrost. Although a warming climate could change these emissions, scientists do not yet think it will drive a major increase. To this end, NASA’s Arctic Boreal and Vulnerability Experiment, or ABoVE, has been measuring methane coming from natural sources like thawing permafrost in Alaska and Canada."
Wetlands are still the majority natural contributor. I recall the permafrost research being talked about as well even as early at the 2000s. Its part of the issue, but something more is going on and I cant find good research that pins this down yet.
Yep
Because lying to people on youtube gives you $ for 0 consequences
MSM isn't reminding of this though. They have marching orders from politicians with an agenda. They would rather climate change be the fault of human behavior, so that they can go about controlling that behavior.
yes lots of methane lakes now in Siberia. Putin failed to act to contain the vast forest fires so now theres brown earth which melts perma ice much quicker. that produces its own micro climate, Scientists visited the area and lit plumes of fire from the holes where methane leaked. over my age of just 70 we have lost the easterly winds that uk had in summer and winter, in sussex gentle east wind on a hot day. cooled us lovely, that dont happen now. our winters on sussex coast were brutal. snow, frost ice, all drivers had chains sacks blankets and a shovel in the boot. taxis ran on chains a week at a time. my fathers milk float was also fitted with them. The "beast from the east "we used to get every couple of years is long gone as regular. i don't think anytime soon there will be a 1963 freeze event again, unless the AMOC actually stalls, which of course was the driving point of the "Day after Tomorow".
Science has been so tied to politics people have all but forgotten what a real scientific demeanor is. A breath of fresh air.
Yep. Most scientific organizations are largely government funded, or they receive a portion of their funding from the government. So the agenda becomes less about working to understand reality, and more about working to secure more funding. And notice anytime something happens that doesn't fit or threatens the political narrative, research groups jump into action to force it to fit the narrative.
It is because genuinely curious studies do not get funded. The science funds are tied to political outcomes. It's about as far as you can get from genuine science.
Yes, have seen others just label this as caused by human generated climate change.
But, but, the liars have a mortgage !!!
Here is very careful to present data only. He leaves it to you to draw your own conclusions. I believe he hinted at it near the end. There are non-natural sources at play also.
Nice. I remember people talking about the methane issue 20 years ago. There's ungodly amounts of methane trapped in/under permafrost. As the planet warms, that ice melts, it releases enormous amounts of methane, and this makes the warming even faster, and this releases even more methane. The next few centuries should be interesting.
And the amounts of methane hydrate that are at the bottom of the oceans are just waiting calmly for a shift in temperature and pressure to be released upward and join the party.
@@romeufrancisco7041 Frank Schätzing describes this in his Novell "The Swarm"
It'll be extremely lucky if we even see the end of *this* century. From diseases to the high likelihood we'll extinct ourselves, chances aren't great.
You will not need to wait a few centuries for things to get 'interesting'; the next 2 or 3 decades will more than suffice. There are several enormous positive feedback elements in play .. methane from multiple sources, loss of reflective ice, wildfire emissions, cooking biomass emissions, reduction of ocean CO2 absorbtion, reduced vegetation cover, increased carbon based energy use by humans, etc.
they talk of this methane as being much older than the current interglacial which beggars the question 'why hasn't this supposed methane escaped before now?'. The artic was ice free according to proxy data for thousands of years peaking about 6000 years ago. Tree stumps and human settlement ruins indicate much warmer climate further north during this period so why now when temperatures are cooler are you worried about permafrost methane escaping?
Thank you for taking me back to my teenage years when scientists and researchers could have intellectual conversations with data and existing evidence.
Yeah it has slowly been getting easier for scientists to talk like scientists again. Still a lot of threats that come if you do too much critical analysis, but for sure better than last year
Yes, I remember "The Coming Ice Age" was the big scare tactic when I was a teenager. Guess that one didn't work.
@@lindaabernathy4876that was the scientific consensus in the 70’s. Guess the “science” is wrong when you don’t have or understand the data.
They always do what they are told, it has nothing to do with science, Galileo demonstrated this well, even Giordano Bruno's stubbornness became common knowledge when it turned out to be useful, but not because Giordano was right...
@@lindaabernathy4876 That seems to have been a media invention - the BBC in particular.
I really appreciate the recap of the various climate cycles. Your recap seemed specially clear and understandable
Hey! Thanks so much for your support!
Yes cycles. Universe runs on cycles. Nothing to fear. Our Mother Earth and Our Father Sun know what they're doing
Thank you for reminding people that we’re still in an ice age. I’ve been trying to explain this to people for over a decade.
My fear is a new ice age with Arctic ice expanding and driving Canadians south. Dallas would be overrun with curling rinks - a fate more horrible than I can imagine.
Yeah cold here at the moment .
I've been saying the same thing for years too thanks your not the only one
Not only are we still in an ice age, we are only just recovering from an almost catastrophic fall in Co2 levels, if the Co2 had dropped any further we would not be here now! because ALL plant life would have died, followed closely by ALL herbivores dying and finally ALL carnivores Dying, We might have survived(barely)by creating individual grow areas, I.E. greenhouses where we artificially increase the Co2. The Dutch already enrich their greenhouses with Co2 to get larger yields and better quality produce. Scientist know this, but still go along with the Co2 is evil so must be reduced mantra, mainly because research money is only available for any research that fosters the Global warming/Climate change narrative. The only scientists that speak out against Climate change are either retired(not dependant on grants)scientists, including Nobel prize winners, or Scientists and researchers who are of independent means.
Me too. Climate science is so complicated that it cannot be explained simply like political leaders would have you believe.
I've personally felt as though winter has been taking longer to arrive, but staying for the same amount of time once it does. I remember back in the mid 90s that we would reliably get the first snow in late mid October, and we would get the first real storm in late November or early December. I also remember that in 1995, we got a blizzard in April that was considered unheard of. Now almost 30 years later we often don't get our first snow until January, but now it's not uncommon to have snow in may.
Summer has also felt shifted. I remember as a kid June and July were swelteringly hot, whereas August and September had a break in the temperatures. Now June and July are temperate, August and September feel like an oven, and there isn't a break in the temperatures sometimes until early December. Just what I've personally observed, with all the pitfalls of memory and perception.
THANK YOU I've been saying this for about three years now. I've been saying that the seasons are shifting over but their length is the same!
I live in the northeast USA and have noticed the same exact thing!
I have been commenting for years, it is astro-physics.
Now and then, I have mentioned actual climatologists around the world who disagreed with the official version of climate changes had their grants defunded and lost their jobs.
re: Food I have mentioned look at world microclimates to see what thrives, and do that.
re: Shelter I have mentioned what ingenious things people have done in different climates around the world to be comfortable in that climate.
Since about 2000 we've been in a drought and at the same time our skies are full of "contrails" that never evaporate, a white hazy sky like 1970s Popular Science Geo - engine - earing article mentioned. Even in winter with low humidity, the sky is a HAZE when in low humidity "water vapor" trails don't evaporate.
Yeah Same here from the east coast as well.. Not sure about else where but that's definitely what's happening here..
I like how he admits that we still don't know. A sign that he is really an expert in this subject matter.
Uhmmm but we know more than we don't so don't get all Denier on us here bud ~ Sincerely, also a former scientist.
Exactly. Been crying the end of the world for 30 years now. Always. We have 5 years left....6 times now
@@MrMawnster if you were a scientist, then you know that we know NOTHING.
He is no "expert" on the subject matter.
@@MrMawnsterwhy are you a former scientist? Did you forget science ?
10:52 correction: cow BURPS. cows don't fart methane. if you know how a cow's stomach works, there's 4 compartments (rumen, reticulum, omassum and abomassum); as part of their digestion process, their food which is grass, has to get processed by phases, and during each phase, the cows will burp their cud and it goes into another compartment for further processing and digestion. it happens four times, and each time produces methane which the cows will burp as it goes into the next phase. so while cows _may_ fart, it's nothing next to the volatility of their burps.
Im having trouble determining if you are being pedantic or just missed the memo. We know that. That is why its referred to as cow FARTS, as in the offensive hot gas expressed by rubes that have bought into the anthropogenic gobal warming bullsh... ahhh...bullgrift. Wait until the next video covering this where he will probably have to go into things like the nonsensical belief that carbon can be permanently locked up in the soil and will have to comment on the fact that every time a volcano farts it expresses more CO2 than humanity produces over the course of several years. (Yes, we know volcanos dont actually fart either...)
So why then do bio reactors produce methane from cow shit ? 🤔
The same amount of methane is released if that plant material were to decay naturally. Same amount of carbon too.
@@jennacoryell4160Yes, we know that. The problem is the number of cows and how we keep them. And that we have to use fossil fuels to grow their feed. People often misunderstand the problem. The problem is not the natural digestion process of cows, the problem is always humans. By growing their food with artificial fertilizers that are made using a lot of fossil fuels, we basically turn fossil fuels into methane.
@@viragkaroly2949 we fertilize our own food crops with the same methods, and the number of cattle we have today is lower than it was in the 1960's. Why the focus on eliminating beef specifically?
Back in the early 90’s my Dad and his friend started using landfills to generate electricity. They had wells placed all over the landfill and burned the gas on two giant Caterpillar engines that powered a big generator. They sold the power to the City. The first one they did was in Burlington, Vermont. I remember my dad taking me there when I was a kid.
Now it's nor profitable to burn landfill gas for electricity, rather to refine the LFG to cleaner natural gas. Amazing how far we've come in the waste industry in just a few decades.
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Interglacials are caused by LOW CO2.
Low CO2 causes plant-death and CO2 deserts.
This causes dust.
Dust on ice sheets causes warming.
Thus low CO2 causes interglacial warming.
Every interglacial is preceded by 10,000 years of dust.
Interglacials are NOT caused by increasing CO2.
The feedback is ice sheet aIbedo.
See paper ‘Mod.ulation of I.ce A.ges by D.ust and A.lbedo.
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Similar thing here in UK, old coal mines vent methane which is being used to generate power using IC engines.
that’s pretty neato
When I was in highschool in the 90's my teachers told me that we are in the tail end of an ice age and that in my lifetime I should expect an increase in temperature, sea rises and better farming
You had a sensible teachers who knew their facts , unlike the woke , believe anything the government paid scientists tell today’s teachers , who then try and indoctrinate the children.
Yeah snowbunny the question is if we've been at the tail end and are facing the sudden reversal to the start of the next Ice age....and been experiencing better farming and higher sea levels for the past several thousand years.
...also, if these are correlated to solar cycles or polar shifts and are we due for another.
Disrespect off the jump... smh@@robh467
@robh467 given that Ice age cycles are in the thousands of years time range even if we started a global cooling event leading to another snowball earth level Ice age our childrens great grandkids wouldn't see snowball earth short of some kind of global disaster such as a super volcano eruption accelerating cooling with a global cloud of fly ash.
Same for me in the 80's. This is proof that education is becoming more political and less scientific.
The discovery of the elevated methane levels correlate precisely with the expansion on earth of a mexican fast food franchise that is known as the Taco Bell. The numbers are irrefutable and sometimes quite delicious.
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Taco Bueno also has a hand in that.
But not as much as Taco Bell.
Also my cats would occasionally like to report me.
We'd like to think that the patterns we see will always repeat themselves. But other factors come in to play like large pockets of organic Matter that were Frozen and now are being released. And of course, the large amounts of carbon that we are extracting from the Earth and putting into the atmosphere.....
Great presentation of what's known and yet unknown. No political double-speak. I was starting to believe this was not possible in todays world. Thank you.
It's not two-sided in this case. There is the science and then there is the pseudoscientific conservative narrative.
and there is also the lefitst authoritarian nonsense that tells us to eat bugs and cut our nuts off to save the whales
@@mian6788 I was majorly disappointed that I wasn't instructed to stop eating rice and meat. Looking forward to eating the bugs to save the planet. Glad you see that anyone that disagrees with us is simply wrong.
@@jdwyer4851 Indeed, people that 'disagree' with basic facts are 'simply wrong'. Well said.
@@mian6788 , or there is data people like you like, and data you don't like. I like seeing all the data, and hearing different interpretations of it, to see which one makes the most sense to me.
I always try to tell people we are technically still in an ice age, we're just at the tail end of it that's why it's been so nice and livable for us
As long as Antarctica is at the southern pole, the Earth will experience periods of extreme glaciation. Plate tectonics says that will be at least another 80 million years before the cycle of glaciation will end with Antarctica moving north into the Atlantic Ocean. Then, when Europe finally gets into the Arctic Circle, it will begin again. Antarctica has occupied the south pole region for about 300 million years, and it and its ocean currents are a major player in the onset of global glaciation events (as is Northern Canada).
@@johnhenry3536 No, john. That's not what the video is about. It is about the real global and cosmic processes that periodically put the Earth into periods of glaciation, followed by rather short periods of receding ice sheets.
I guarantee you'd rather live in a warm planet than one half covered with 5 kilometer deep ice sheets. And I can just about guarantee, based on past cycles, that the Earth will once again enter into a period of glaciation that covers the majority of the Northern Hemisphere, and that is made possible, in part, because of plate tectonics and the movement of continental land masses over the past half billion years.
Where do you think the Atlantic Ocean came from, john? What effect do you think a land mass the size of Antarctica, with its ice cover and low albedo, has on retention of solar heat? What do you think happens when, because of oceanic current and weather changes, northern Canadian Plateau gets a permanent snow and ice cover? How many decades would it take before the Canadian ice sheets made their way south of the 47th parallel (hint: less than 10). What do you think the effect of a new period of glaciation would have on the civilizations north of the equator?
John, when the people who have convinced you that AGC is a real thing stop buying beach front properties, then you should worry. Until then, maybe you should increase the amount of salt in your diet.
@@johnhenry3536 Well, one thing is certain; whatever so-called hellish climate is in store for us all… There’s not a damn thing anyone can do to prevent it happening.
Human beings are clever and powerful, but not more powerful than the Sun or the earth’s changing trajectory around the Sun.
@@johnhenry3536He's making a correlation between the periods and how the glacial and ice ages compare to the plate tectonic movements. It was a comment explaining the belief of where the continents will be located when another cycle begins.
So how long does the interglacial period last ?
It's irrefutable that the death of the megafauna was caused almost exclusively by the spread of Sapiens. Every new land mass or island that was ever settled by humans followed the same script. The first evidence for Sapiens correlates perfectly with the rapid extinction of the megafauna at too many locations to be climate driven. Also, there isn't the same extinction of the megafauna in the oceans, which are typically more sensitive to climate shifts than terrestrial animals.
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I'm an old retired undereducated woman with an interest in meteorology and natural sciences. This video popped up after a different (unrelated) video, so I watched it. I really, really enjoyed it. I've not encountered Dr. Ben Miles before, but I think I'm in love. Thank you!
I just found him tonight as well, and this is a fantastic video. 🙂
@@blucat4 Me too. Loved it. I have researched this for years and found this to be very refreshing.
Since you seem interested, look up what will happen to the Earth when its orbit about the sun goes to circular. (The present-day orbit is not circular which produces winters and summers.). The circularization of Earth's orbit will happen in about 25,000 years as it did happen roughly 100-million years ago.
@@walshrd The (very slight) elliptical orbit is not what produces winters and summers. It's the 23.5 degree tilt of the Earth.
@@walshrd You absolute cretin.
The Sub-Permafrost Methane Bubble is leaking now that permafrost is thawing
Which drives marine temperature increases, leading to marine methane clathrate deposits (which are highly sensitive to both pressure and temperature changes) to destabilise en masse. This will fully move the planet into an ice free Interglacial. Therefore it's not the Holocene, it's the Flandrian. We should expect to see a normal interglacial temperature profile of around +3-5°C and no land ice outside of Antarctica and the highest altitudes with the consequent sea level rises reflecting levels in the Ipswichian (the last full interglacial) when there were hippos frolicking in Trafalgar Square. Humanity will have to adapt rather than attempting to act like King Canute and hold back the tide.
- Interglacials are caused by LOW CO2.
Low CO2 causes plant-death and CO2 deserts.
This causes dust.
Dust on ice sheets causes warming.
Thus low CO2 causes interglacial warming.
Every interglacial is preceded by 10,000 years of dust.
Interglacials are NOT caused by increasing CO2.
The feedback is ice sheet aIbedo.
See paper ‘Mod.ulation of I.ce A.ges by D.ust and A.lbedo.
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@@Kadath_Gamingwe can adapt but there haven’t been any sea level rises recently. If Antarctica doesn’t melt the sea doesn’t rise
@@MrLuckyMuffin- why don’t you Google ‘Antarctica melt research’ and see what you find?
@@MrLuckyMuffinit'll rise, just not as much. There is a lot if ice on Greenland
What a fantastic presentation. In this period, it is borderline miraculous to find a video on this particular subject that cares to give HISTORICAL CONTEXT. I am grateful.
Yes it was a good overview. There are plenty of other videos which cover this long-term context if you look (strictly speaking not 'historical': that applies to human timescales since written records - hence 'pre-historic' for the first 240,000-odd years of human existence). I'm not sure what the right general word for everything before that is. 'Climatic' or 'geological' context would work.
@@xxwookey I´d really appreciate that you mention one that stands out in your opinion.
We’re living through an unprecedentedly rapid climate event, so the big picture actually proves the OPPOSITE of the video’s premise.
@@ericskelton8368 Did you watch the whole video? The title is potentially confusing. The information is accurate to the best of my knowledge and the presenter agrees that we in a very rapid climate-change event which might be sufficient to move us out of the somewhat irregular oscillation that has been going on for about the last million years. So I'm not sure what premise you think the big picture is the opposite of?
@@xxwookey The video seems to gloss over the Tipping Point hypothesis whereby an increase in human-caused CO2 triggers a (my emphasis) self-reinforcing methane release causing further warming. Our current climate change is exponential, not linear, not gradual, not naturally caused and not just another blip in a long geological record of climate variations. As much as science can know something, climate urgency is established. The foreseeable consequences are dire. Unfortunately, this video looked forward instead of only backward, possibly inducing complacency in its viewers when it’s urgency that’s warranted.
The video observes the rapid increase in CO2 and observes the spike since just 2006 in methane release. Then, strangely, the video pivots to reassure us that the Earth has an ability to engage negative feedback loops to respond to climate change and establish a new equilibrium. That glosses over the initial dramatic loss of habitability for life forms that exist today as we sleep our way into a climate catastrophe and then wait for a millennia-long correction.
The video skips over the damage the initial positive feedback loop will cause.
The result is a video that, intentionally or not, has the effect of making an oncoming train with us tied to the tracks, seem like just a morning commute.
Science and its methods don’t exist only to direct humans to wise choices. But the « sapiens » part of Homo sapiens does mean wise. We should be using our wisdom to detect and avert crises, not to minimize them.
Thank you for being responsible and not fear mongering about climate. Saying "we don't know" means we can look for answers. Saying "we have all the answers" means we stop looking at new ideas and box ourselves in.
Enjoyed the content-refreshing to hear “we really don’t know” for a change.
Yep the oil companies spend billions every year to say it.
No no no, we do know! 7 years ago AOC said we have 12 years to turn this around or we're all doomed. Anyways, I don't have time to chat, I've got to get to the bank to sign my new 30 year mortgage!
Yeah a refreshing change from the "the science is settled" chant, as if.
@@freddexta3363 yep the oil companies could be wrong, climate change could be fake.
@@freddexta3363build a boat
It's so refreshing to hear well explained, well reasoned and insightful commentary. The subject is somewhat depressing but the video was spot on.
depressing why? because Earth self regulate?
Eve. Though most of the conclusions drawn are misplaced. Level of methane in atmosphere is in the teens of ppm, and he’s wrong about the length of time methane stays in our atmosphere, it’s about a week before it decays and not a decade. Getting to the broadly correct answer but by mostly incorrect methodology.
could you cite relevant papers please?@@freeforester1717
@@freeforester1717 Nope, methane last for about a decade in the atmosphere, CO2 for centuries.
@@tylovset 🤣🤣👍🏻
A breath of fresh air to have the climate debate presented with significant research and justification. Dr. Ben, you have brought together much of the various arguments into a concise summary of what we really need to track. I found the global methane release map extremely fascinating. Thank you. This deserves wide viewing.
but he presents everything as facts instead of as theories. Sloppy at best.
@geraldbennett7035 thanks for adding this 👉 "but he presents everything as facts instead of as theories. Sloppy at best."
@@geraldbennett7035 Most of his comments are bots. Thankyou Dr Ben, I'm grateful for this Dr Ben, Great words Dr Ben.. I wonder how much he's paying for fake subs, comments and likes? From a video I watched recently about a guy showing the packages and prices to get bots, It isn't cheap especially the package that he's paid for..
@@GoGreenHub You are a wise and inciteful bawt.
@@larrym2434 We appreciate the "wise" but not sure about "inciteful bawt"? Explain?
I wrote a paper like this in college in like 2008 and i have wanted to blow my brains out every day since. The sad part is it feels like we are further from a solution now than we were 16 years ago.
Well, first we have to laboriously analyze the problem to death before we even start to endeavor a solution.
We certainly have the science and most of the technological solutions. The problem has been waking media and politicians up to the urgency of the crisis and approaching tipping points. COP29 is not looking up to the task, but if it is complemented by a Fossil Fuel Treaty involving workers and stakeholders, real progress will be made.
Don't worry - science is too corrupted by government money to be able to find any true solutions.
Please don't blow your brains out. We need more people like you, not less.
@@kurchakit was a figure of speech 🙄
You have explained this perfectly! Thank you for making this video.
I'm grateful for having such high quality educational content for free. Thank you Dr Ben. 🍻✌️
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Not really- we're here in 2024 and his most recent data is from 2006.
It's all false.
OMG, I hate people.
hey bot. this moron is dead wrong. Are you woke or just a bot ?
Just took a free class on cycles of climate changes and termination events while under my warm covers on this frosty morning. Thanks for this learning opportunity!
and its wrong because he talked only of methane, just one side of the problem, the heart of problem is the 13km3 of carbon on gas/oil/coal we release yearly in air dont return underground, the glaciology give us data for millions years and we know for sure that co2 lvl are lot higher in ppm than during all glaciations periods. that mean you cant see it like if we were still post glaciation cycle...we ar eina different cycle a cycle where man create a carbon crisis,.and if you think temperature is the biggest threat you are wrong, co2=acid sea=no plancton=no fish =mass hunger. the other risk is runaway climate who mechanically cna kill all life on land in centuries...hollywood maybe, but look in the sky, venus could be as cool than earth, but with climate heating she is 400°c.
so for our criss, the closest match is devonien/carboniferus crisis, precisely the period where hydrocarbur form..1/3 of sea animal died, and no animal bigger than mice survived it on land with 6%o2.. it took 15.000year for plant to bury enough co2 without herbivor to give back normal lvl of o2 and millions year for land animal life to restart...we wont see this scenario, but our kid great kid etc will see lot of change for sure.
@@eriklerougeuh5772Well carbon emissions are most likely going to peak between 2023-2025 and then significantly drop after. So good news we may be on the verge of getting rid of carbon emissions entirely by 2050 across the globe starting the onset of sucking back in all the co2 we emitted.
@@Robweisenhowser I would disagree with this for one simple reason. India. India is a underdeveloped nation. However, due to its cheap labor it will become the next china which means a rapid rise in pollution production until they have industrialized.
Sooooo taxing the piss out of already struggling people won’t change the weather?
Nope. But politicians don't really care about anything other than increasing budgets. If they can't tax the weather, they'll just tax hot air instead.
Throwing money at every problem is always their answer, because that thrown money ends up in their friends' pockets as well as their own.
They never planned on it, even if they could. People are just gullible.
Not people, corporations. Individual contributions pale in comparison to the manufacturing processes.
@orpheuscreativeco9236 Taxing corporations is taxing people. Corporate taxes, payroll taxes, capital gains, etc are paid by consumers through higher prices for products.
@orpheuscreativeco9236 more taxes will not save the environment, nor will the government. The gov has never fixed anything outside of basic social issues, and even that is rocky.
Well for example Estonia is 23% wetlands. During the past 50 years, there has been enormous growth of digging trenches to dry out wetlands for pine wood monoculture production. Also peat mining has played a key part. As the wetlands dry out, the organic matter stored there starts to continue to decompose, releasing methane into the atmosphere. I don't know about much rest of the data, but I'd guess its important to point out that some of the natural cycles are triggered by human activities. Great video though, an interesting new perspective for me.
Only if you are so uneducated as to believe that humans are God, as many woke EU fascists and socialists currently do
That is "sub-Human", what is "less than" Truly~Human*!* OK, @increator1 ?
@@Daniel-i8u4l What?
This video is full of speculations built on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without knowing. Vain mention of permafrost melting to explain the methane gas, while Russia keeps releasing such gas into the air and into the sea & ocean while is isolated by the embargo. Russia still extracts petrol & sells some, but not as much the gas present with it, which is released into the air.
I was looking at the ice core temperature scale of the last 800,000 years a few years ago. Every temp spike they projected was followed fairly closely by a coresponding methane spike.
Well observed and you are right. Higher temperatures cause the release of more methane, mainly due to melting permafrost regions and to a lesser extend due to melting polar ice caps.
At 6.19 why is there no mention of the 26/12/2024 tilt increase?
It's obviously relevant to the termination event timescales.
This video is full of speculations built on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without knowing. Vain mention of permafrost melting to explain the methane gas, while Russia keeps releasing such gas into the air and into the sea & ocean while is isolated by the embargo. Russia still extracts petrol & sells some, but not as much the gas present with it, which is released into the air.
Yeah, recently they discovered that the Earth Tilt n Magnetic North is actually abnormally large, so the exposed surface to the Sun’s radiation would melt the polar ice n glaciers in a big way
@@MasterCommander. ok spamtard
Melting permafrost causes frozen organic matter to decay, releasing more CO2 and methane. Changing thermoclines on continental shelves cause methane hydrates to destabilize, releasing more CO2 and methane.
Thank you for all the information clearly presented. I have long been interested in the factors that contribute to climate and how it changes over time on earth. It's a very complicated subject with many many variables affecting climate and I don't think people realise this. Having said this... The impact we humans have had on climate have been dramatic causing severe warming and poor environmental practices, land and sea pollution etc. So we are seeing results in the increase in global weather changes and disasters. But it's not all the story.. Planet earth has its own cycles in nature. We are affected by events related to our planet's place in solar system, by way chemicals and systems on earth work. We need to keep open minds, keep learning and developing understanding, keep working to reduce our negative impacts, keep sharing knowledge. Thank you for your presentation
And it seems massive melting interferes with ocean currents and in the end leads to gulf stream weakening. Which in the past likely started a reversal process. It will be crucial to understand if our emissions have the potential to mess this natural "switch" up.
Well, the trees and plants should be quite happy since that is plant food, right?
But as the map shows, methane do not appear in permafrost regions. It's connected to dense populated areas.
@@bjorngve it’s modeled, not measured.
Thank you for creating and sharing this. Now I can share with friend's that just clearly do not get it. Well Done!!
I believe the sudden increase in methane can be correlated to the summer taco bell promotional event.
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I have done my part in that event.
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That's just as plausible as anything else these knuckleheads come up with. How many times has "science" changed their theories. Science is actually on the side of Creationist if you'll take the time to investigate it all. Good luck when you have to give an answer when you're standing before God on your judgement day. And oh ya, we're all going to make it to that day. Jesus is your hope.
Why am I just now learning that we are currently in an ice age? School has let me down
Sure did
School's have a shared agenda with big Govt and therefore with big Corp/Industry. It's always about $$$🧐
Because you cant freak out about global temp increase and support billions of tax dollars going between the hands of well paid administrators... if you had too many facts that didnt cause fear based actions.
They chose to reach you about feelings rather than facts. The education I got from 1988 through to 2003 was based on logic and fact. They didn't set your generation up for success and we will all suffer for it.
There is currently Ice at the poles, so an Ice Age.
What is the methane emissions from melting permafrost in northern Canada and Siberia? As much as I love the archeological discoveries from the permafrost my concern is the massive release from permafrost? The slumping in the north is drastic visually but does that correlate to modern volumes?
Yes, to a large extent - look up "Methane Clathrate gun," basically there is a precursor to gaseous methane locked in much of the northern permafrost. Siberian infrastructure is already crumbling as their 'ground' gives way to mud and methane...
Last report i read on methane increases, much of the study came from ocean methane releases. Mass bacterial growths from ocean matter decay was producing a huge increase in methane, that report came out like 5-6 yrs ago.
@@timothymckee7693 that's not how science works, a reactor uses about 500KG of Uranium and the Pacific weighs a lot more than 500KG.
A lot is coming from the permafrost areas thawing, marshland / peat bogs close to the Arctic circle.
@@timothymckee7693Keep pumping.......? Right.
@@timothymckee7693 The trivial amount of tritium (which is a natural product already found in all water) that they are releasing from Fukushima has exactly zero effect on climate.
@@keithj6251yes they are still dumping radioactive water into the ocean from fukushima due to a badly built nuclear reactor built by either ge or westinghouse. The oxygen levels are dropping in these areas due to die off of krill and plankton.
In Siberia massive frozen lakes are unfreezing and producing methane. Nova did a special about that. Permafrost is unfreezing around the world.
The 'Chasing ice' documentary mentioned the methane being released in 2012 so hardly unheard of. Also, anyone talking about cows and methane knows they don't fart it but burp it. These obvious omissions or incorrect statements makes me question the validity of the rest of it.
@@hotblack1166 Not just lakes but also much CH4 from the bottom of the shallow seas North of the great river mouths of Siberia which sea bottoms contain 100 's of times more gas than we could ever emit...
This video is full of speculations on top of speculations, on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without even realizing. There is no need of permafrost melting mentions since there is a lot of methane , the gas that Russia keep releasing into the air and into the sea since keep extracting petrol but the gas which is with it is not as much sold but released in the air.
absolute bollocks it is.
Methane cannot build up in the air because it oxidises readily when exposed to UV light.
More panic about non existent problem from limp wristed soy eating liberals.
I remember a show about large amounts of frozen methane under the north Atlantic coming to the surface as we get warmer. What an amazing balancing act the earth has
That's what I was thinking about. Warming oceans make the methyl hydrates less stable and prone to releasing the methane.
Imagine what wholesale ocean floor mining and oil extraction could release! Kinda pushing the car over the cliff.
I'm going to check on this, but am throwing it out here now: I thought that the methane was being released from the oceans because of rising tempritures. Methane also causes the Earth to increase in tempriture, which is why scientists have been concerned about "runaway globalwarming."
Yes, it can be both
Mainly the Arctic ocean and melting arctic tundra - there is a lot of methane that can be released up there. Note that "runaway global warming" wouldn't runaway forever as the spectral graph of the earth shifts slowly toward higher energy wavelengths that go around the absorption bands of GHGs. But certainly it can runaway from our ability to stop it if we don't like what is happening. This is essentially what a tipping point is - we get to a point and we will get 3 or 4 (or more) degrees of warming no matter what we do to emissions after that point - the warming is locked in out of our control. e.g. We can't control the methane coming out of the Arctic tundra or Arctic ocean. This is why reducing emissions drastically before the tipping points is so important.
And they called that Methane, Sulphur Di Oxide, Carbon Mon Oxides & Water Vapour CO2/Carbon Di Oxide, which they still do by the news broadcasters DWNews & France24.
I am impressed with the way Dr. Ben presented this information; it felt way less political than one normally encounters on this topic. Bravo.
Show of hands. How many people here are sick to death of TH-cam putting their 2 cents worth post under any video they don't like?
Absolutely. These clowns at TH-cam need to keep their nose out of content.
Yep I'm sick of their crap too, as they a totally woke organisation and should be held accountable for lying to us about everything especially covid!!
and stating it in their words. The 'Climate Change' babble on this one is absolute rubbish
I'm sick to death of arrogant, science-denying morons who can't even put their own trousers on without a manual.
I like it because that's how I know a video is speaking truth.
My electronic principles lecture taught me this cyclic theory whilst learning satellite orbits and calculation position to signal strength.......that was early 90s and I've never heard of it discussed since....when ever I explain it to people I literally see there jaw drop....I worked for ESA on sat coms and literally nobody had heard of these cycles..... i will sendcthis video to people in future because I'm done explaining 😊
This video is full of speculations on top of speculations, on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without even realizing. There is no need of permafrost melting mentions since there is a lot of methane , the gas that Russia keep releasing into the air and into the sea since keep extracting petrol but the gas which is with it is not as much sold but released in the air.
trouble is - very rich people started paying directly into universities and pushed their own personal favourite 'cause' through this. In the past, very rich people doing this were after knowledge and truth. These days they are after more money and power without having to go through a ballot box!! There is the difference I believe.
Very interesting and easy to understand. Thank you for laying out the details.
JUst so incredible all the discoveries and corrections to previous amazing finds that ae being made across all sciences every day and I'm so so glad I came across your channel and a family of amazin subscribers that all have fascinating inputs to make and if not then at least are interested and have something to say and want to learn all these things, its weird as already I feel so much less depressed and alone as none of my friends are into the things I am which are exactly the things you make videos about! Your love of ALL sciences is so refreshing and just easier all round knowing I don't have to search through different channels when i fancy learning a bit more about a particular subject as you have it all, a bit of everything! :D
So: I’m not sure how your video found it’s way into my algorithm, but I’m glad it did.
It’s informative, and not overly filled with jargon that will turn kids away!
Thanks!
Subscribing. 😊
This video is full of speculations on top of speculations, on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without knowing. There is no need of permafrost melting mention to explain the methane gas, since Russia keeps releasing such gas into the air and into the sea while is isolated by the embargo and manages to sell some of the petrol but not as much the gas present with the petrol.
@@MasterCommander. So you refute the data collected by in-situ and remote satellite probes ? The analysis of that data ? The conclusion drawn from that analysis ? If you're gonna go against a scientific paper's conclusion you better have more than conspiracy musings.
If Washington was still under a kilometre of ice the world would have far less death and destruction
@@phillipwilliams3544 Your words: "If Washington was still under a kilometre of ice the world would have far less death and destruction " are deceit and lies. The Truth which has testified, is that imperfect humanity after the fall from Eden Ganbe, have created all the destruction, all the evil and death, releasing "The Snake" when were thrown out of Eden Ganbe together, "TheDeceiver" / "TheDestroyer" (biblically written "HaSaataan", has caused the death and destruction that you mention. We know and have already seen that even if none of
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so called Western nations were to exist no more, and without Europe, North American and South American and without any English speaking, French speaking, Spanish speaking, and any European speaking languages, ALL THE OTHER NATIONS OF THE EARTH WILL STILL HAVE AS MUCH DESTRUCTION AND DEATH AS IS TODAY, BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEY HAD AS MUCH DESTRUCTION AND DEATH WHEN THEY WERE FEWER ON EARTH WHEN NO
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NATION EXISTED DURING NOAH, AND EVEN AFTER NOAH UNTIL ABRAHAM. Therefore we correct you and advice you to stop deceiving , because through fake repentance, by sins such as lies and deceit, you made the divine protection which was set above you, to be greatly LESS, and due to have less protection, TheDeceiver-
Lucifer
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Word that took human form under the name of YHWH Savior (YahShua), and toward some of your own relatives and friends, a evil practitioner headed toward the isolation zone toward agony and despair (if you continue to walk the path that you are in, right now). The Eternal Lord 'EL' YHWH due to EL 's love even toward you, had prompted me (after I said: "Lord he is not worthy"), nevertheless it appears that He has insisted since
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his imperfect (therefore corrupt) so called "science" turned as an idol for very many, or other personal idols like money, a position of power, or fame, or toward a star of some kind, or toward an object, system, movement, or a pet, or toward a fake prophet, or toward anything and anyone (whether family or not) trust and love set above YHWH or YHWH Savior, such criminally directed (according to YHWH),
greater
trust and love directed toward a creature or created thing than toward The Divine Creator, ... is idolatry, therefore a personal insult or blasphemy against YHWH and YHWH's Eternal Word that took the human form "YHWH Savior" titled MessiYah and EmMan[u]EL (AmongMen[the]EternaL). YHWH and YHWH Savior, alone could save you into eternity's paradise of The Eternal, when the ancient miraculous gift "power to ascend" becomes visible to touch you to get empowered with it so that at the exit of your self awareness energy made copy
from
your mind and called "soul" set free at the death of the carnal body, get it's eternal destiny sealed with the already in the soul >power to ascend< (if getting it before death), to be able to ascend since without it you won't be able to ascend but descend toward the judgement for sentencing into eternal separation and damnation, away from YHWH and into the isolation zone of all corruption, sins (evil) and evil practitioners and demons in agony and despair for tens of thousands of years that will feel as if is "an eternity"
due to
the agony existent there in the isolation zone. You have a free will and is your life, your choice to make. You have been informed so that you won't have any valid, legal excuses during the judgement process when YHWH Savior "YahShua" (Judge over the human race, justified justly so, since that day of the divine sacrifice payment made), yet He won't represent you if you die without trust and love toward Him in your soul to have the power to ascend and to be justified free to ascend, having Judge's sacrificial payment made in your behalf.
TO @phillipwilliams3544 Your words: "If Washington was still under a kilometre of ice the world would have far less death and destruction " are deceit and lies. The Truth which has testified, is that imperfect humanity after the fall from Eden Ganbe, have created all the destruction, all the evil and death, releasing "The Snake" when were thrown out of Eden Ganbe together, "TheDeceiver" / "TheDestroyer" (biblically written "HaSaataan", has caused the death and destruction that you mention. We know and have already seen that even if none of
the
so called Western nations were to exist no more, and without Europe, North American and South American and without any English speaking, French speaking, Spanish speaking, and any European speaking languages, ALL THE OTHER NATIONS OF THE EARTH WILL STILL HAVE AS MUCH DESTRUCTION AND DEATH AS IS TODAY, BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEY HAD AS MUCH DESTRUCTION AND DEATH WHEN THEY WERE FEWER ON EARTH WHEN NO
WESTERN
NATION EXISTED DURING NOAH, AND EVEN AFTER NOAH UNTIL ABRAHAM. Therefore we correct you and advice you to stop deceiving , because through fake repentance, by sins such as lies and deceit, you made the divine protection which was set above you, to be greatly LESS, and due to have less protection, TheDeceiver-
Lucifer
"Shiny", (HaSaataan'a-Lah) beeing "A Great Deceiver" as he claimed those titles in his own quran, deceived by "Shining" as an 'angel of light' deceived of being "GabriEL-JibrieEL, he (Satan) and his evil spirits (demons) gain access (due to weakening the divine protection above you from YHWH) The Deceiver and
his
demons are able to come closer to you, to whisper into your brains or mind, DECEIT, to keep you enslaved to them through deceit, so they could keep you as a slave and have you on the other side, either to feed on you, or to rape you in the isolation zone of all corruption, sins (evil) and evil practitioners (such as you are, a sinner practitioner of all kinds of sins including betrayal and no loyalty toward The Eternal and Eternal's
Divine
Word that took human form under the name of YHWH Savior (YahShua), and toward some of your own relatives and friends, a evil practitioner headed toward the isolation zone toward agony and despair (if you continue to walk the path that you are in, right now). The Eternal Lord 'EL' YHWH due to EL 's love even toward you, had prompted me (after I said: "Lord he is not worthy"), nevertheless it appears that He has insisted since
has
prompted me to write those words which I wrote to you, yet without thinking because are not my words but His, trying to provide one more chance for your own good and salvation. Unless you truly repent and truly spiritually born again (not like the 95% of the fake and so called "Christians" but like the under 5% which truly have repented and truly have spiritually born again, where true Christians, babies in the sense of knowledge
and
trust in the Holy Scriptures, but that have become mature and are now MessiYAH'nic people of "Yah" , of YHWH, YHWH Savior certified according to Bible's 2 Chronicles 7:14 which testifies the words of YHWH (YaHWeH) short said "Yah" that: His people are called with Yah 's name, (later used for the Lamb of YHWH the Savior). They are MessiYah'nic due to their Savior The Divine MessiYah. It is up to you to repent and spiritually
born again
away from any religion including away from that of Atheism and of "is slam" and of Judaism, Buddhism and Hinduism ...etc, religions due to idol worshiping. Idolatry is religion according to The Eternal 'EL' YHWH, which defines religion as being idolatry worship through trust and love set above YHWH and YHWH's Word that took human form "YHWH Savior"), a trust and love toward the imperfect human Charles Darwin
and
his imperfect (therefore corrupt) so called "science" turned as an idol for very many, or other personal idols like money, a position of power, or fame, or toward a star of some kind, or toward an object, system, movement, or a pet, or toward a fake prophet, or toward anything and anyone (whether family or not) trust and love set above YHWH or YHWH Savior, such criminally directed (according to YHWH),
greater
trust and love directed toward a creature or created thing than toward The Divine Creator, ... is idolatry, therefore a personal insult or blasphemy against YHWH and YHWH's Eternal Word that took the human form "YHWH Savior" titled MessiYah and EmMan[u]EL (AmongMen[the]EternaL). YHWH and YHWH Savior, alone could save you into eternity's paradise of The Eternal, when the ancient miraculous gift "power to ascend" becomes visible to touch you to get empowered with it so that at the exit of your self awareness energy made copy
from
your mind and called "soul" set free at the death of the carnal body, get it's eternal destiny sealed with the already in the soul >power to ascend< (if getting it before death), to be able to ascend since without it you won't be able to ascend but descend toward the judgement for sentencing into eternal separation and damnation, away from YHWH and into the isolation zone of all corruption, sins (evil) and evil practitioners and demons in agony and despair for tens of thousands of years that will feel as if is "an eternity"
due to
the agony existent there in the isolation zone. You have a free will and is your life, your choice to make. You have been informed so that you won't have any valid, legal excuses during the judgement process when YHWH Savior "YahShua" (Judge over the human race, justified justly so, since that day of the divine sacrifice payment made), yet He won't represent you if you die without trust and love toward Him in your soul to have the power to ascend and to be justified free to ascend, having Judge's sacrificial payment made in your behalf.
Thank you for explaining this with actual science based on common sense and careful observation.
Thank you for a well produced and highly informative presentation. Isn't it true that there are two more major factors which contribute even more to release of methane?
Solar cycles of increased and highly variable radiation levels in which we are currently reaching an 11 year maxima (remember also that our earth is miniscule in comparison to our Sun).
Secondly there have been many academic papers exhibiting significant evidence that approx every 12,000 years , a Geo Magnetic Excursion event (GME) takes place on earth (a pole shift). The reduction in earths magnetic field due to the GME also greatly reduces our protection from our Suns increasing radiation. These two factors may sugnificantly disrupt our Earths albido, perhaps with even greater effect than methane alone.
Would these be interesting subjects to consider in one of your videos?
Keep up the great work.
I - as a physicist would expect the 11 year solar cycle (which goes along with a net increased energy flow when there is more solar activity) is not playing any big role in general climate (as in long term trend) but rather in cylclic weather phenomena. Simply put: 11 years cylce is most likely too short compared to the long term changes we are observing to effectively drive / support those processes.
You can understand this as with a pendulum having a resonance frequency. If you are at the resonance frequency, you pump a lot of energy into the pendulum and always increase it's motion. If you are far off resonance there is not much energy gain. It's like with a swing, you always push your child on the swing when the swing arrives where you are and thus match the frequency and effectively get it higher and higher. If you'd just push it randomly (either just once at the start - much lower frequency - or erratically all the time even when the swing comes your way, you will get a much worse experience).
@@DerKiesch There is actually LESS solar radiation reaching the surface of the earth right now than there was 100 years ago. There simply is NO WAY the sun is having any effect on the global increase in temperature we have seen over the last several decades. no. way.
I hope it happens sooner than some 100-200 years .
Thank you for having a real talk about what is actually going on with our planet.
Yes man made climate change
We mess up so bad it might not be easily stopped anymore
you mean .. anthropogenic climate change ?
and as we can see it's not a people's fault
@@TheEryk03
Wth are you insane it’s almost certainly our fault
@@palebluedot7435 almost XD so what should we do? burn all the Amazon forest? keep all iceberg frosted XD?
you are so delusional
As a geologist I am fascinated by the fact that, in any case, no one of us will see another ice age, for sure. But in the future this will be something humans will deal with , and there is no anthropic global warming that could avoid this 🤣
How dare you! 😉🤣
@@PawełJakubowicz🤣🤣🤣
So wrong as we head toward Venus-like earth with 'Runaway Greenhouse Effect'. Won't happen in mine or your lifetime but over a very short timeframe in Geological timespan terms!
We already see the early effects of this happening on a global basis currently! 😂😂😂
@@rossmcpherson4998 Are you for real? I think you've had a bit of an overdose of ipcc propaganda and those doomsayers....
@@rossmcpherson4998 We cannot compare the earth with Venus which is outside the sun's habitable zone.
Venus' atmosphere consists of over 960,000 PPM CO2 which means over 96% CO2.
Venus' atmosphere is so thick that the pressure on the surface of Venus is like 900 meters deep in the ocean.
The Earth's atmosphere consists of around 420 PPM CO2 which is 0.042% CO2.
There were 7,000 to 8,000 PPM CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere 540 million years ago.
The lowest CO2 in Earth's atmosphere ever recorded over hundred of million years was 180 PPM around 20,000 years ago during the last ice age.
At 150 PPM CO2, all plant life begins to die out due to photosynthesis stopping.
The average temperature on Earth is now 15 degrees Celsius (59 °F).
The Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum (PETM) about 55-56 million years ago had an average temperature on Earth of 27.2-34.5 °C (81.0-94.1 °F).
Around 90% of the time in the last 250 million years, the Earth has been so warm that the Arctic and Antarctic have been ice-free.
About 2.7 million years ago, the Earth began to experience ice ages. They typically lasted 30,000 years with a 30,000-year warm period before another ice age.
In the last 500,000 years, we have had ice ages that lasted an average of 90,000 years, followed by a warm period that lasted an average of 10,000 years.
Large parts of North America and Northern Europe were covered by a 3km-thick ice cap. The ice went so far south that even New York and Manhattan were covered by it.
Did you know that for no more than 10,000 years ago the sea was so low that you would have been able to walk from England to France without getting your feet wet.
There is always climate change on Earth. Either it moves towards colder times or it moves towards warmer times.
We are now in a warm period after a long cold period from around 1200 to around 1900 called the Little Ice Age.
I will also include the atmosphere of Mars where it is freezing cold. CO2 is almost as high as Venus with over 95% CO2.
The atmosphere is so thin that it has a density of less than 1% of the Earth's atmosphere.
I’m convinced that the people commenting here as if this video is arguing against the idea of anthropogenic climate change either didn’t understand the video or didn’t actually watch it all the way to the end.
I, for one, welcome an end to the ice age. I like forests and prefer them to glaciers on an aesthetic level. It doesn't really bother me that coasties might have to move in a few centuries. I'd just think it was funny if places like New York and LA were submerged by the ocean. It's what I like to call "Not my problem."
I'm not sure the video made it totally clear, but that was my sense also.
Hard to watch it to the end when the wool is pulled over our audience eyes from thee beginning ...
I find that these yt documentaries from "scientists" search bars tend to omit the billions & turf squabbles invested in melting the Arctic, which is the driving force behind the excess release of major greenhouse gases and compounds, including METHANE, CO₂, nitrous oxide, and mercury. These emissions accelerate due to China-EU new Silk Road shipping routes-aka the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). These gases and chemicals released from melting permafrost and glaciers contribute heavily to the acceleration of toxins, geo-shift (your "climate change"), with methane and CO₂ being the most mentioned of toxicity... but yeah- keep bypassing corp biz-gov't culprits & blaming cow farts and "natural" planetary events??
To me it seems the opposite…
The vast majority of people commenting didn't watch the video, this is simply statistics.
Thanks for discussing complex issues without the usual breathless hype.
You went past permafrost melting quite quick, I think it’s worth exploring that deeper. The tropics have been producing methane for a very long time already but the permafrost melting is very recent.
agreed - permafrost melting & releasing methane thats been trapped for thousands of years should be more alarming than the wetlands
You’ve identified the fatal flaw in the video. The speed of climate change suggests a cause other than the gradual changes of past geological history. Such a basic error suggests either ignorance or worse on the part of the video maker.
There is no speed and no it wouldn't even entirely proof the point. It would still be a working hypothesis with lots of anti thesis like the global greening effect of co2.
And what people like you don't understand is that nature isn't that harmonic thing that only moves slowly. Nature comes with huge events that impact the whole globe faster than what humans are doing, with the very same atoms: co2.
In other words: at some point permafrost will become water. With or without humans. Just because a human activity correlates to an event in nature doesn't prove anything. Correlation is not causation. We had a mass die off of correl reefs just 10 years ago. No one really knew why but scientists had all kids of speculations from global warming, to chemicals in the water. We didn't do shit but the coral reefs have began to regenerate by themselves and science found out that sometimes, on really rare occasions, coral reefs get ill and die of to 80-90% of what they were just for the surviving 10-20% to regenerate. You can try to stabilize the climate all day long. The climate is going to do what it is going to do and the best scientists of the planet can't predict the next 2 weeks. Welcome to reality.
@@Noqtis « What people like you don’t understand » is a little condescending, don’t you think? Rather ad-hominem when we should be discussiing the merits and effects of a real problem. And « welcome to reality » is another slur to justify bias. Clearly this thread has degenerated.
@@Noqtis "What people like you don't understand." Condescending much?
Thanks for such an informative video - you help to make complex science accessible.
In 2023 it's getting more and more rare for people to be able to say those all important words, "We don't know." People have gotten so damn terrified to admit they don't know something. Everything thinks they know everything. It forces everyone to pick a team and fight fight fight! Ignorance has become an insult, and it shouldn't We should embrace it. The first step to solving any problem is admitting there is one. You can't stop being ignorant on a topic until you admit you don't know.
It's refreshing as hell to hear someone say the truth...... we don't know what this path of climate change is going to lead to. We have guesses. We don't have answers. Yet, anyway.
No one knows anything at all no matter what they say. Not one thing.
-Socrates
We have guesses that are akin to watching a car speed towards a cement wall. In other words, anything could technically happen, but the outcome looks to be pretty certain that we're melting off our ice caps, which doesn't bode well for where we've built most cities, and doesn't bode well for where we grow most crops.
We don't know everything about human bodies either. Doesn't mean we should stop treatments until we understand them fully. Same with climate change, it is better to be safe than sorry. And the correlation found between humans accelerating climate change is very heavy, so it would be a very low chance for it to be something else than us causing the spike.
@@philosophist9562 It's like our doctor is telling us hey so your diet combined with lack of exercise, lack of good sleep, too much exposure to chemicals and air pollutants, and your general overall health are not looking super good for your overall outcome, would you like to maybe do something about all that, and climate deniers are like nah I think we're good, I googled it, I think I know my health and human health in general better than you or any doctor (who've spent their careers studying and practicing the art and science of trying to keep people healthy). We can pretend like we know climate science better than climate scientists, and we can pretend like the things they're telling us are simply not the truth, but one way or another, the truth is catching up to all of us, and it will only continue to get worse for a lot of people on our planet until we drastically reduce our fossil fuel consumption, as a species. Nature doesn't really care what we do or what we think. Nature is a feedback system. No one is outside of it completely.
Thoughtfully constructed info. Great video!
I noticed you make zero mention of the solar cycles which definitely must be part of the process in the warming/cooling of the earth. (How much radiation is even sent our way, BEFORE we're even talking about absorption/reflection)
Solar forcing is important, but on time scales relevant to human history solar irradiance is practically constant. Even near solar minimum, when galactic comic rays have easier access to Earth, and during the solar maximum, their spectrum remains relatively constant in energy and composition, varying only slowly with time. Just as the solar cycle follows a roughly elven year cycle, so does galactic cosmic rays with its maximum.
No mechanism has been discovered for variations in the solar wind or magnetic field to affect Earth's climate significantly. It's a red herring when folk claim these forcing do; popular on "climate skeptic" pseudoscience blogs, but we know once a talking point gains inertia in the "skeptic" echo chamber, it never dies. The steady decline in energy output, the 11 year cycle in sunspots, and the variations in the solar wind shows no correlation with climate on annual, decadal, nor century scales.
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@@rps1689
I seriously doubt that the Sun 🌞 which is 98 or 99% of the mass of the solar system has minimal influence on planet Earth.
I'm pretty sure its impact is way more than just being a constant.
Likely it determines the entry and exit from ice ages, tectonic shifts of the planet, orbital distance, volcanism, irradiance...etc.
@@mtrest4 No one said it has a minimal impact on Earth.
Solar energy output is highly predictable, on time scales relevant to humans. Total solar irradiance (energy output) varies one part in a thousand on an eleven year cycle. Another part in a thousand when there's a pause in sunspots.
These well known variations have no correlation with climate.
@@mtrest4 For starters, Look up “Solar Cycle: and “Introduction to Solar Radiation”
I'm a big fan of studying how natural causes climate changes. I'm also big on "don't make a mess in the nest".
Agree on the "don't make a mess in the nest". But even if we would have lived like people did in the preindustrial periods, (without any kind of thechnology), this global warmup still would have happened.
@@pepita2437 So you're saying that the burning of fossil fuels has zero impact on the global temperature?
The currently warming climate is not natural. It's anthropogenic.
No. It would not have happened without fossil fuel emissions. @@pepita2437
@@mcgruffallo You are addressing a crowd that has not progressed above "ditto".
When discussing obliquity at about 6:20, the graphics show melting north polar sea ice. This perpetuates the incorrect conclusion that floating ice that melts will contribute to sea level rise. Generally, only melting land based glaciers can contribute to sea level rise.
Wouldn't most of it just seep into the ground or end up making lakes, streams, and rivers in that land anyway?
The Antarctica and Greenland ice sheets hold massive amounts of water ice that would lead to significant rises in sea level, were they to melt. Other land based glaciers such as those on mountains, if melted, would add a comparatively insignificant amount to sea level rise. Don’t worry though. It would take an enormous amount of energy to melt those ice sheets, especially that in Antarctica.
False, if glaciers melt from ice caps those ice bergs aren't tied to the ice caps any more, which inevitably means they'll drift around until they melt.
Volume displacement. Correct.
How about a termination of the climate hysterics?
What is "normal" climate?
The climate our civilisation has been enjoying for 10000 years.
Thank you for explaining this in an understandable and engaging way.
Dear Dr. Ben, Thank you for this. I have an observation. Those, like me, who are a little slower in our thinking than you (well, probably a lot slower) would be much more able to grasp the import of the graphs which you present, if you were to show them on-screen for a little longer and sometimes with more informative labelling. Best wishes.
This relative speed can be Modified by pausing the video.
pause
I thought I read the methane was outgassing from tundra as the permafrost was melting due to rotting biomass - that is why there is more methane in the arctic. Also, with the warming oceans there is the Clathrate Gun Hypothesis. Even if we stop all emissions right now there is a couple of degrees c of increase already baked in. With 38c events in Siberia the tundra is definitely melting. Areas of the Canadian arctic are falling into the water as the permafrost melts.
That is one source among many. Some of these sinkholes that have been found are also producing far more methane than just the degradation of the permafrost can account for. i.e. underground methane sources.
Theoretically, there is only a finite amount of methane under the frozen tundra, yet to be released. Lets say that all of the tundra melts and all the methane gets out. In that scenario all the methane released will break down within 10 years, as mentioned in the video. So the impact of tundra methane may be large but only very briefly, meaning in terms of the equation of the contents of our overall atmospheric system, that methane is not important. It will be released and then break down. What's far more important however, is finding the sources of methane that keep pumping into the atmosphere for years on end. So abandoned natural gas and oil wells, for example, will be pumping methane for years and years to come. These are the sources to focus on. Another reason to put focus there is that it's a source we can stop. We can't stop the tundra from melting, it's too late for that, but we can cap off an abandoned oil well.
He said that. "Released" was the term...@tundra permafrost etc.
@@Fishpizza1212Except if it causes a vicious cycle, due to crossing a tipping point.
Wonder where I heard those terms before 🤔
@@Fishpizza1212 er, methane's high warming effects may last only a (relatively) short time, BUT methane degrades into co2 which has a smaller warming effect but lasts a very long time + water vapor
ch4 + 2*o2 = co2 + 2*h2o
This is gaia theory in practice. I try explaining this to my mates down the pub😂
Wow. Just noticed the "Context" warning. Disappointing but not surprising. All the more reason to watch this and share it with as many people as you can. Thank you Dr. Ben Miles for putting this out there.
They do that on any video
@@asddfasdqwe7389 I am noticing it more and more. Bizarre. Just one more silly thing to ignore!
I love the "Context" the youtubes felt obligated to tag this video with. I'm not sure I'm entirely comfortable thinking for myself and feel better now that I have this correction from a highly reputable organization, in this case the UN, to tell me how to do it.
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You're not the only one thinking the same about stinky TH-cam "context", to me it's only climate propaganda to sustain the climate fraud.
The UN 🤣🤣🤣
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🚨🚨Independent thought alarm!! Independent thought alarm!!🚨🚨
12,000 years ago was an anomaly, the Younger Dryas. The last glacial max was 130,000 years ago. The next ice age will occur after global warming leads to the cessation of ocean currents and the equatorial currents no longer warm the polar regions, which will in turn lead to snow and ice raising the reflectivity of those polar regions, and subsequently rapid global cooling.
Glad I won’t be here for that.
There's drop stones in Central Park from 20000 yrs ago that were left behind due to retreating glaciers.
You are a fool if you think you can ever be clever enough to understand the climate.
This bloke is just someone bigging up there magic graph .
This video is full of speculations on top of speculations, on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without knowing. There is no need of permafrost melting mention to explain the methane gas, since Russia keeps releasing such gas into the air and into the sea while is isolated by the embargo and manages to sell some of the petrol but not as much the gas present with the petrol.
@@LarryEllis-z1f The AMOC (Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation), which circulates water from north to south and back in a long cycle within the Atlantic Ocean, and thus is _vitally important_ - and I'm not exaggerating here - for the continuance of life on this planet (please read up on it) is *already* compromised and seems to be slowing down quite a bit faster than previously predicted. If/when it comes to the proverbial standstill, it will be catastrophic...for us, that is.
The planet itself will simply continue. We won't.
The every 12,000 year cycle is actually upon us. We are about to experience it. Also known as a Galactic Magnetic Reversal.
Well, they were warning us about the coming Ice Age back in the 70's.
Thank you for explaining things in a manner that many should be able to understand. For years, since I was at an event hosting Patrick Moore and based on various lectures I have attended I have attempted to explain the various cycles and events that have had a dramatic effect on how this planet developed. Now I just need to point them here.
I still however find it difficult to get some to undertsand that just about everything on this planet is carbon based.
The expression, "until I was blue in the face or if the cow jumped over the moon, when hell freezes over comes to mind. I, like you point out to people that a train is about to hit them unless they get off....
@@AndrewCharnley .......and yet still you present no argument based on objective reason...............
0.2% of things on earth are carbon based its more silicon based in fact.
@@Madmanrealmad Define "things on earth". Define "carbon based" and "silicon based".
Describe, succinctly, how in the context of this video, your comment is not utter idiocy.
@@jwilliam2255 It was in reference to the end of the comment. Nearly everything on earth is not carbon based.
Very informative with great graphics. Your commentary is a pleasure to listen to. Looking forward to watching more of these kinds of videos.
I just saw a new-ish episode of NOVA about Arctic Sink Holes. Massive amounts of methane are leaking out of holes in the tundra.
This video is full of speculations built on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without knowing. Vain mention of permafrost melting to explain the methane gas, while Russia keeps releasing such gas into the air and into the sea & ocean while is isolated by the embargo. Russia still extracts petrol & sells some, but not as much the gas present with it, which is released into the air.
The point that may be missed here is accelerated forest and range fires is producing more CO2 instead of microbial decomposition which produces more methane. There is an ecological positive to wildfire. There is another great benefit from animal grazing as well, but society is largely not being informed of this benefit.
But CO2 only makes up 0.04% of the Atmosphere. So other gases make up the rest 99.96%..
I keep thinking that is a feedback loop, frozen underwater methane hydrate is melting due to hotter underwater temps, which in turn helps rise temps.
Yeah there are many feedback loops, there's also many many other factors, humans are a tiny fraction of the equation..
@@WSmith_1984 Humans are the independent variable that causes the equation to change. Nature typically doesn't pump 100 million barrels of carbon out of the ground per day, and the time when it did it do that it almost killed all life on earth. Other species have changed the atmosphere before us too for better or worse. Just because the fountain moves so much water doesn't mean dripping water into it wouldn't cause it to overflow.
the methane ice deposits are deep under water while there is no real change in temperature below 200m, now. This will be a massive problem when the heat reaches these deposits but currently this isn't the case, thanks god.
@@WSmith_1984 NO we are not, please actually listen to the video. Yes half of it is produced naturally, but it is produced naturally due to the rising temps, which are vastly human influenced, and the other halof is purely human produced
utter bollox, brainwashed mug!!@@daftwulli6145
What a great video. I'm really happy I found this rather than the usual partisan views on this subject. Ultimately we don't know what the future holds, but we can always do our best to consume responsibly and care for what we can with diligence.
Basically you're saying we can burn as much coal, gas and petroleum as feel like and not feel guilty about doing it. Of course those resources are finite and will run out.
Of course they're finite.... thus they need to be managed.... that does not mean stopped completely.... also what is still available ! Noone seems to know.... completely stopping research and use is completely redicoulous when you do not have an alternative.. we need to he integrate into an energy system. This will never happen because of the climate change fanatics... they are not open to debate... they are not open to reason.... they only have one stupid agenda and that's.. STOP...
All reason has gone out of the window to be replaced with rhetoric... what's the point of the human race if we do not have reason...
Our powers of thought are be replaced with agenda....
That's total stupidity
@@donadams8345 not sure exactly how you read and comprehend, but to me it reads quite differently "do our best to consume responsibly" seems a long way from "consume with reckless abandon"...
When the carbon based fuels run out in thousands of years, unless we have previously found and implemented a cheap and effective alternative, we, too, will run out.
Windmills will never replace carbon fuels. Maybe nuclear though.
@@edwardcoulter9361 There are a lot of developments, cheaper, production line style thorium reactors which are far less dangerous than current style.. free energy is with SAITH technologies and Maxwell Chikumbutso and last i saw 6 countries were franchised to build free energy generators and cars... others have the same tech now too...carbon based fuels don't actually run out, that is just a marketing ploy, the biggest markup for any commodity is scarcity... so that is simply a value added market manipulation based in false assumptions... and of course the invested parties will do what is needed to stay in business as long as they possibly can.... including assassination... which is why we don't have water cars (Fukushima was just nearby a water car factory that somehow became defunct shortly after...) and free energy tech... however, they do know it's unstoppable so are pushing profits as hard as they can, while they can...
Very informative, actual scientific discussion without the blame game. Great work and content on the video.
Can we add geoengineering into the equation? I think its being sped up.
wait, i thought it was all settled science?
one thing i don't hear about much is the marine CO2 sink. many people hand wring about CO2 causing acidic seas, but, planktonic life is a huge fixer of CO2 in the form of calcite tests. so i figure a lot of CO2 will be fixed in the sea as plankton thrives in warmer water, such as during the cretaceous.
enjoyed the video. especially the clear explanation of the orbital and rotational cycles and how they relate to glaciation events.
The reefs were starving the world of co2 12 thousand years ago, co2 was 15 ppm away from photosynthesis stopping all over the planet co2 gets a bad wrap but is the planet actually better off with more of it ?
What? Warmer water means less CO2 dissolved in the oceans.
The role of oceans in absorbing CO2 is a well studied part of environmental science. You realize that one of the results of those studies is that the oceans are not keeping up with the rising CO2 production.
Many natural sinks for CO2 have increased the amount of CO2 they absorb as human production of CO2 has increased. However, the result is CO2 levels are rising in the atmosphere despite this. We have over 70 years of direct measurement showing this.
Using 70 years of data is great, but there’s data showing hundreds of millions of years that CO2 levels now are lower than they’ve ever been in the history of the planet for at least the past 300 million years
@ManofLetters Someone has lied to you.
There are data for CO2 levels for up to 800,000 years. There estimates CO2 levels that go back about 50 million years. The 70 years I referred to are only direct measurement of the atmosphere on an ongoing basis.
Geologists first made the connection between past CO2 levels and Earth's average temperature towards the end of the 19th Century.
Earth's CO2 levels have been much higher millions of years ago.
But, before the 18th Century, CO2 levels were stable at 280 ppm for around 10,000 years. At no point in the last 400,000 years has CO2 levels exceeded 300 ppm. Since then, CO2 has been rising, and is over 420 ppm currently. The last time there was this much CO2 in the atmosphere was about 800,000 years ago.
All of human history and civilization has been in a world with a much lower CO2 levels.
Great work. Keep it up. Love from New Zealand....
Judging by the amount of precipitation we have gotten so far this year...Midwest will see the worst coming winter it has never seen.
No mention made of the rapid movement of the magnetosphere (magnetic north pole) these past 130 years and how this also plays a role in the sudden natural changes of this planet. Industral revolution just coincidental in the time line of natures cycles. A better integration of other major componants need to be inserted into the equation. This is also a component to consider. Good video.
No mention of the solar cycle either. I would have liked to know more about this.
That is because the changing poles has not been shown to be a major Milankovitch driver in the past. And those past changing poles history changes is well documented and known. Could it be a factor, I have no clue. But what I do know is that it is not a major factor. This was a short video trying to cover all the important factors ... not an all inclusive to cover the entire details of everything related. That would entail an entire (and am sure rather long) series.
Can’t imagine how shifting magnetic poles influence climate.
@@kevinfisher1345 Basically the answer right there.
@@edwardcoulter9361 There could possibly be more volcanism activity during poles shifts ... which will influence weather and climate patterns.
Earth's magnetic field protects Earth, and possibly during a shift that could weaken and allow more radiation and solar winds. Which again will influence weather and climate. There has also been suggested theories that high energy particles trapped in the Van Allen Belt could be released.
Again I do not know if this actually is the case or if so, how extreme or minimal it would be. What we do know is there is nothing to suggest it has been a major factor. But there is definitely a possibility it could potentially be a likely more minor factor.
Well, that's it then. I'm not painting the house!
1:28 That very funny quote comes from the Douglas Adams classic, "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy."
This video is full of speculations on top of speculations, on top of more speculations, spreading deceit or misinformation probably without even realizing. There is no need of permafrost melting mentions since there is a lot of methane , the gas that Russia keep releasing into the air and into the sea since keep extracting petrol but the gas which is with it is not as much sold but released in the air.
I just remembered that I was in the same place on May 11th, 2001 when I heard Douglas died as I was when September 11th, 2001 went down. Huh, 4 months to the day. That was not a good year.
@@MiloDebuque Are you really comparing a terrorist attack that killed over 6,000 people to the death of a second rate author who had one cult classic?!
@@wayneyadams What? Of course not. Simply stating the fact that I was at the same job, in the same building when both of those things occurred. I didn't compare anything to anything. Not sure how that was your takeaway.
@@MiloDebuque When you said you remembered where you were when both events happened giving the impression that the death of Adams had the same memorable impact as 9/11. You then went on to state the similarity in dates, adding that it was a bad year all around. The whole message implied, whether you meant it or not, that the death of Adams had the same impact as 9/11.
Enjoyed this. Thanks for explaining with the use of data and for keeping the typical fearmongering on the shelf. I found this both interesting and educational
The information provided does not reduce fear about human-caused climate change.
Nice job presenting the science!
Well put together thanks for sharing
Everything we know about climate change is a small piece of a big puzzle.
What are you trying to say? How does that change what we should be doing?
@@incognitotorpedo42 Oh it changes it, because if it does come out true that man-made CO2 is just a tiny fraction of the puzzle, then radical shifts to new energy forms that are expensive would wipe poor people out. Poor people, especially in 3rd world countries, rely on fossil fuels the most
@@incognitotorpedo42 It shows that there is more to understand about climate. Climate change is bad is such a misleading take. Climate change is a natural process, but our contribution to pollution, greenhouse gas emissions, and other negative factors may be impacting that natural process in some ways. In other words, we still have a ways to go in understanding what is dying as a result of us, and what is changing because of the natural process of earth changing.
Climate change is a new industry
Alot people making alot money
@incognitotorpedo42 in the 1700s the Thames River would freeze over in summer. I believe it was 1741 that was called the year with no summer across the northern hemisphere where there was massive crop failure due to lack of sunlight/warmth. Now I'm fairly sure this natural climate change/fluctuation happened before the industrial revolution
Appreciate expressing the uncertainty properly. The truth is, there is a LOT to learn.
Its probably china bro. Their lethane excaping from their cheap corner cutting containment
Wow , hearing a scientist saying that honestly they do not know something is refreshing ! Thank you for this video and I have to say it was definatly interesting and educational . I'll be following and sharing this channel thanks again
You'd love the scientists that study consciousness then
Of course there are plenty of creationists who use that knowledge (or lack of thereof) to prove that scientists don't know anything and the truth is written in a holy book.
He is not a climate scientist but a has a Ph.D. in nano-physics and worked on synthetic human insulin creation!! He is a scientist of very small things and his climate opinion half-truths are shameful as he can't see the Big Picture in Biosphere terms that we've experienced to allow human species development which have only existed for some several million years with us in the "Goldilocks Zone" which we have almost inexorably altered to now having to face an existential crisis!
He ignores the difference 9Bn. people NOW using over 60% of earth's natural resources exclusively, at 150% of replacement rate! Totally unsustainable as we rape and loot our 'free good' natural environment which has produced us, naturally!!! Good luck for the future! 🤣🤣🤣
@@fabianmckenna8197Yes, how can there have been an ice age 12,000 years ago when the earth is only 6,000 years old lol!
He's not a climate scientist.
Nature has a way to deal with changes.
CO2 increase leads to increased plant growth, which consumes the CO2 and controls it. Which is why they're more trees and plants growing at a more rapid rate than before.
Methane doesn't last long in the atmosphere due to our relative high O2 content, breaking it down into water vapor and CO2, which is just more plant food.
That's why i don't fully follow the "runaway greenhouse" models.
Nature does. The Earth's climate is an output of a thermodynamic system which seeks thermal equilibrium with surrounding space. Any change in the factors which determine the equilibrium point causes the system to seek a new equilibrium point. For example, a change in the thermal impedance of the atmosphere due to added greenhouse gases. Basically; the adding of CO2 to the atmosphere changes the thermal equilibrium point between the planet's climate system and space. "Returning" the system to equilibrium manifests as global warming.
Small increases in CO2 concentration has major effects. A key reason is the length of time CO2 remains in the atmosphere. Like Methane and carbon, CO2 does not condense, and like methane and chlorofluorocarbons it isn’t particularly chemically reactive or easily broken down by light in the troposphere. For these reasons, they all remain in the atmosphere for anywhere from years to centuries or even longer, depending on the gas. In contrast, a molecule of water vapour stays in the atmosphere just nine days, on average. It then gets recycled as rain or snow. Its amounts don’t accumulate, despite its much larger relative quantities.
CO2 is not only a life giver, it is also a waste product from fossil fuels that has made some ecosystems, agricultural zones, and feeding grounds we depend on not adaptable enough to the current climate change trend.
How about the hydrated-methane at the bottom of the ocean? The carbon content of this hydrated methane is greater than all the hydrocarbons in all the rock (reservoirs) in the earth. One place where this has been detected is the shallow sea north of Russia, now that the sea ice has melted.
Two questions come to mind: How accurate is historical data, and how different is our data collection today than it was, say, 50 years ago?
It's interesting a person with your avatar name - a character of a con man from the film Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, be asking about the "validity of the data" - yeah we noticed.
It's certainly a LOT More accurate than the people running about claiming "people are boiling to death in their own sweat !!!! " - ANY person who give those crazies even the merest shred of validity deserves to mocked forevermore.
@@rafezetter8003 My questions were mostly rhetorical, but thanks for the reply! Are we allowed to question "climate science" at all?
@@rafezetter8003 it's far less accurate. Most of the data is basically useless. Temperature stations cover maybe ten percent of the planet. And most of those are intentionally placed near heat sources to make everything seem warmer. Plus we have more than enough proof scientists are modifying the data to make it look like the planet is warming.
Science fact constantly changes, therfore where is the final truth that they claim to possess? Who knows? Next year, there will be data that throws their old conclusions out the window. Hubris prevents most people from seeing this simple fact. How dare someone not buy into their "facts" 100%.
Dinosaur’s Kept very detailed Records!!! Yes I Know it’s ice core samples. Although having a Bureaucratic Scientific class of Dinosaurs sounds pretty Cool!! 😂😂
I am curious. You stated the last termination event occurred around 11,000 years ago. If you factor in the possibility of a younger dryas impact. That could explain the short gap between events. As the impact would have made a drastic change to the atmosphere and environment, releasing more gases and melting glaciers. That would then make the current event we are seeing more in line with normal cycles.
Curious your thoughts
The most noticable evidence of an upcoming ice age is the fact how cool everybody are nowadays
The dumb jokes are the best.. good one~ 😅
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Sure, purple and green hair, no bras, mini skirts, plenty of drugs, free sex changes and no need to work for a living!
I would correct that finding, as a peer review, to ‘how fool every one is nowadays’. I call it ‘The Snakeoil Era’. How easily it’s purchased in a data-driven world.
The difficult part about having this kind of discussion is people automatically make it seem like you are in favor of polluting the world.
Hello! How exactly?
@@kayurien845because the politically manipulated drones can do the mental gymnastics to make any information that doesn’t fit their narrative suddenly all the evil they’ve been trained to identify. They’re insane. Like, I wouldn’t be surprised if they claimed this is racist. They’re that manipulated.
Completely agree! it's so nice to actually see real science being done on the subject and not being scared into fitting the narrative.
@@theclinchmma4126 except it fits narrative quite well; there is feedback loop mechanism explained in this vid, where by incerasing co2 level you raise overall temperature, hence increase growth and decay of plants which increase methane levels, which increase overall heat and so on...its also worth noting, that methane increase curve neatly follow curve of co2 levels increase during industrial era (as graph of metane increase at 15:15 shows)...same mechanism apllyies for water vapor, which is by far "best" greenhouse gas and works in same symbiosis (these are very basic and general informations which you can found at wikipedia)...all that said i would like mention, that this research isn´t done by some "guerilla-indenpendent truth seekers", this is possible only due to massive cooperation of world-wide data collecting by...guess who; mainstream, government funded, scientists who generaly agree on human impact to global worming...and here is other thing; there is always green lobby implied in "green lunacy" debates...i dunno, by how does this powerfull green lobby overpayed oil-industrial-agro lobby?
@@theclinchmma4126 except it fits narrative quite well; there is feedback loop mechanism explained in this vid, where by incerasing co2 level you raise overall temperature, hence increase growth and decay of plants, which increase methane levels, which increase overall heat and so on...its also worth noting, that methane increase curve neatly follow curve of co2 levels increase during industrial era (as graph of metane increase at 15:15 shows)...same mechanism appllies for water vapor, which is by far "best" greenhouse gas and works in same symbiosis (these are very basic and general informations which you can found at wikipedia)...all that said i would like to mention, that this research isn´t done by some "guerilla-indenpendent truth seekers", this is possible only due to massive cooperation of world-wide data collecting by...guess who; mainstream, government funded, scientists who generaly agree on human impact to global worming...and here is other thing; there is always green lobby implied in "green lunacy" debates...i dunno, but how does this powerfull green lobby overpay oil-industrial-agro lobby?
Yes, we are currently still in the Holocene epoch. The Holocene began approximately 11,700 years ago, following the end of the last glaciation. It is the current geological epoch and is characterized by relatively stable and warm climatic conditions, which have allowed human civilizations to flourish.
Nope. Anthropocene started in the 50's.
@@camojoe83 delusional?
@@aaronjennings8385 not at all. There's some doubt as to whether to call it at point of ignition of the first atom bomb in NM or in the 50s/60s like the Canadian paper just released put it.
But no delusions. We're most definitely in a new epoch.
@@aaronjennings8385 hidebound?
@@camojoe83 According to the International Union of Geological Sciences (IUGS), the professional organization in charge of defining Earth's time scale, we are officially in the Holocene epoch, which began 11,700 years ago (after the last major ice age).
This is one of the few pieces I have seen touching on Milankovitch cycles, or really any factor other than CO2 in earth’s warming/cooling cycles. Thanks!
Fun fact: Milankovitch cycles don't change the Watts/square meter enough to account for ice ages. But the difference is enough to trigger increased CO2 release, which warms the planet.
@@nedames3328more heat, more energy. All we gotta do is ride the temperature gradients straight into technological utopia
And violate the second law of thermodynamics, cool. @@nedames3328
I mean.... I might be just a dummy... certainly am not a rocket therapist!.... But isn't the problem that Mother Earth needs to put away CO2 somewhere temporarily to help lower the climate... and release it to warm things up again.
But like.... because we fcked her into submission... there is no where for Mother Earth to put the CO2, at a time when YES, she should be putting it away somewhere naturally right about now. But not only is there no where to put this stuff... because it is time for it to not be here so much.... but the places she used to store it... like SIberia, Canada.... are releasing it because its full, and too warm to keep putting it away.
SO?I mean.... yes.... we should be about to enter a period of climate cooling..... the current measurable temp records are as high today as (sciency words inbound!) the lower range of the plateau reached for highest temp since right after the end of the last glacial period..... so like... when things naturally warmed up, that max temps wobbly but very tight and flatish line on the graph? yea the bottom of that line is where we are now.....
things SHOULD be getting colder. It is just time... we even know how long it should take... and how gradual it should drop. But the mechanism to DO that is broken... because we fckd Mother Nature into submission, for the sake of convenience and consumerism.
I mean.... there is NOTHING we can do about it now. But I bet our descendants are going to think we were pretty selfish and shtty to them... even though we didn't learn about this problem until Al Gore told us. (we did learn about it then right? and not decades before, when the oil companies covered it up with money?)
long story short? I am smart enough to know that We did not do for the kids what was best for them out of selfishness...... So they will do to us what they need to out of selfishness. They will break Society's back over their knee... and create what we write about in satire and political horror stories because it is the most convenient way to kill us all, and take our stuff away.
I really hope I live long enough to see the first few hundred CEO's get their heads cut off on live TV. I truly am alive during a very interesting time for Humanity.
@@JohnnyTrombonerFantasy.