The Definition of a Sport Tour...FJR1300. I’ve ridden everything available in the US from Aprillia to Zero electric. I’ve owned my gen 1 FJR for 19 years and 80k flawless miles now. It’s watched several other bikes come and go in my garage over the years. I’ve never once considered selling or trading this bike off. It’s as reliable as the sun and it’s extremely easy and inexpensive to do maintenance on. I’m also not a fan of any bike that has a chain to maintain while out crushing big miles.
As a lover of sport tourers the new Suzuki hits all the right notes for me. I must mention that I also like the look of the Aprilia and the Moto Guzzi.
Two REALLY stand out this year. The Guzzi and the Suzuk - heart or head? - are the picks by far. Just impatiently waiting for the pricing on the Guzzi. And hard not to like the FJR.
6 gears, shaft drive, heated grips, cruise control, adjustable windscreen, preset suspension choices on the fly, large tank. This bike is good for 1k days or all day twisties. Definitely my choice.
Had the DCT. That is a tricky one. It is really cool - and first time out, you quickly think, this is where it is at. And for many, they continue to feel that way. For me, I came to hate it after a month. Always in the wrong gear, never liked how it approached / slowed down / stop lights. But I think it is a brilliant implementation and I can see why some are so sold on it.
What bike and year did you have the DCT? Its vastly improved now that the bike is fitted with a six Axis IMU. Its hard to find fault with it on the 2020 MY Africa Twin
A great vid as usual. It's good to see a gentle resurgence of the sports-tourer after a few years in exile. I don't have an issue with adventure bikes, like I do with SUVs, but it is obvious that the tall bikes did push out the pure road machines for a while. I think that for traditional sports-touring, with the emphasis on sports, it would have to be the new Suzuki GT or the Kawasaki SX GT. Personally, I like things a little bit different, so it would be the MG V100 or the BMW RS. I think that people can be a bit silly, the RT is the kitchen sink tourer in the R lineup. Thanks again, for another great video.
Nice vid and a great conversation starter! I have an R1250RT, which I love. But if I was to get rid of it, my first pick would be the Multistrada V2S Travel... great looking bike, comfy riding position, excellent build quality, plenty of performance, and almost as many goodies as the RT. Pricier than the competition, but well worth it in my book.
The Tiger 660 has lowered the pegs compared to the Trident which makes for a comfortable perch. It's load capacity is also a massive 223kg, just one less than a Tiger 1200XCa, incredible, that subframe design is something else for such a small bike.
Good video, thanks. l hope if you ever do this again you would include the fuel capacity and range. At the end of the day if you are touring especially in some places where garages (fuel stations) are few and far between, its a very important consideration which can break or make a roadtrip.
The rocket 3 gt is actually a genuinely great tourer. Hi tech, comfortable with all the features. Personally I’ve used it for many tours. Good fun and fuel efficient with 48mpg….
And the FJR is designed to run on regular gas. It even runs quite happily on the 85 (US) octane gasoline that you find out in the western USA when you are waay off the beaten path.
Nice round up and yes to all of these but the Honda DCT is my pick followed by the Triumph. For now I'll stick with my Suzuki Van Van 125 with top box and lots of bungee leads, got me to my campsite in Devon last summer from Essex and back again, with some off road and beach riding, woo hoo!
CFMoto are a company to watch. An acquaintance rode a CFMoto from China to England years ago. It didn't break down. He reckoned they are now as good as Japanese bikes. I used the past tense because he was killed on his CRF1000L last year in Thailand. Going too fast. The NT1100 looks awful to me. I'd rather have a CRF1100L. Good video.
I've yet to get my hands on one, but I hear good things. Sorry about your friend, never nice to hear. I still think the Africa Twin is the best looking adventure bike on the market
It shouldn’t have broken down anyway. I’ve bought lots of Chinese products from HiFi bits, to machines and kitchen equipment and CCTV. They have a long way to go to rival anything made in Japan and are nowhere near the same level of safety. I’ve worked in China. Ten years I’d say for the basic products. I took out a Benelli TRK502 and it was just itching to rust as well as riding very poorly. I’d advise the public to stick to Japanese bikes and let the third world test out Chinese bikes first
I wish someone made a sports tourer with sportier bar position and decent power. The only options I've seen are the under-powered Ducati 950 Supersport or over-powered H2 SX. Sadly there us no sports tourer out there for me. Like the look of the new Guzzi though.
Don't forget, BMW invented sports touring in 1970's with their boxer engine...There's nothing that RT can't do compared to FJR. Or even K16 GT, or R1250 RS. They deserve their spot :) ...being mentioned.
@@mancavemoto I saw that one first, I did the honorable mention :). I know it's about "motorcycles to watch ..." I just wanted to mention - not to forget about the founding fathers :)
@@NoWay-xu1ie it depends where you live. In Europe we have no problems dealing with German motorcycles. We have much more dealers for EU motorcycles than Japaneese. We have one every 30-50 km radius here in Slovenia, even two or three in bigger cityes. But we have only 1 dealer in Slovenia, Ljubljana for Harley ...So HD is same her as BMW in USA (?) ...
Sure there are a lot of great motorcycles. I've owned over 50 and to be honest I've put a lot of miles on KLRs and never had a problem. I trailered my dirt bikes behind a 2002 kawasaki voyager for many miles. But I've road the crap out of my 2013 FJR without an issue. I've had my share of airhead also. And soon as we see the 2022 BSA GOLDSTAR In the USA I will own one or a 650 RE if the BSA doesn't get here soon.
Why did Aprilia kill the Futura??? I, absolutely, love mine, BUT, having moved onto the southeastern U.S. family farm, I have to travel three hours to the nearest Aprilia dealership for service and IT is leaving the Aprilia network on January 1, 2024, due to poor factory support; finding parts for my 2001 RST1000 Futura is high-stakes treasure hunt. Dang it, Aprilia!!!
After 12 seasons with my RT, I must say it is difficult for me to imagine a bike that symbolizes the words sport tourer more than my bike. At 58.46 inches of wheel span and now at 135 HP., and with all the protection and accessories...But I say this from this side of the pound ...(Québec).
Yep its a hard one to beat, I'm hoping to spend some time on one soon. Over here I guess they are seen more as a touring bike than a sports tourer, but we'd just be spiktting hairs to argue over that.
Hi T there is such a great choice of bikes nowadays Am hoping to change in the new year. To a versys 1000. Enjoyed the video. As with all your Videos.hope you and your family have a great Christmas and a happy New year
Thank's for a great run down on some truly amazing motorcycle's. How to choose? You couldn't go wrong with any of these bike's. I want to wish my British friend a joyous Holiday Season & great health for the New Year!!! Keep those marvelous video's coming as I enjoy them & your time so much. Your friend from across the pond!!! Illinois, USA
While I agree the BMW R1200RT is more of a touring than a sport-touring motorcycle, you should have included the BMW R1200RS which is without a doubt a sport-touring motorcycle and one of the best.
That is advertised hp. On a dyno, it will produce just under 130 hp at the rear wheel on regular 87 (US) octane gas. And more importantly, the mildly tuned engine produces over 80 lb-ft (about 105 n-m) of torque from 3000 to 8000 rpm, again at the rear wheel.
The versus 650 and the cf moto mt 650 are the same bike btw.. cfmoto make them both and only the plastics are different.. That v100 is just the best designed bike ever!
Like your video and it was very informative. I never thought I would see the day when a motorcycle would be designed purposely to operate a cell phone that cemented my view LOL I already knew it, that cell phones are like toilets they're not going anywhere soon. Obviously the sport touring Market and the hardware are both growing and diversifying. By the way I agree with you on the big Beamer it's an all-out Tour Bike. Just my opinion
As I mentioned 26 seconds into the video, this is a follow on from the 2021 roundup. As the majority of those bikes are still relevant I didn't feature them again, but concentrated on some of the new and notable models coming to the market in 2022. The Super Duke GT even appears at 00:33. You can see the 2021 roundup video here th-cam.com/video/qc8KRIiZzaw/w-d-xo.html
my pick of sports tourer - a road bike with panniers(?) designed to be easier on the legs for grandad? would be the busa and a credit card. and ruck sack. So no need for panniers and ugly boxes a wallet and credit card and off we go. travel light.. or speed of light what ever gets you there. wishing everyone a seasons greetings, or merry Christmas and may the life treat you well
Big mix...i just saw 3 Sport-Touring bikes the aprilia tuono, the ducati v2 and the GXS 1000GT...all the rest are touring bikes, no power or handling to make them a SPORT-Touring bike!
and thats one of the points of this video (and the 2021 roundup), The 'traditional' sports tourer as I see it seems to be a dying breed? Check out the 2021 video to see where I was coming from th-cam.com/video/qc8KRIiZzaw/w-d-xo.html
@@mancavemoto I completely agree...there aren't a lot of bike for us that came from RR bikes that just want somenting to go for some trips to have fun! also agree that you went more the tradicional way on your 2021 round up.
Excellent video! Sport touring bikes are my favorite category of bikes but it seems like this segment doesn't really exist anymore or it has vastly changed. But, the bikes presented here the ones that I would check out are the Triumph Tiger, Suzuki and the motoguzzi. The Moto guzzi is the one that I really like and I am waiting on it to come out. I would like to see you do a ride and review or present that when it comes out maybe even compare it to the Triumph 900 and Suzuki that you presented in this video. I use to have a Ducati ST4 and a BMW R 1110 RS I think was the number. Those to me were sport tourers it seems like adventure bikes or something has taken over this segment. What do you think and what bikes do you like in this segment? Thanks
Thanks, I'm looking forward to the Moto Guzzi launching too. I agree more upright 'adventure tourers' are taking a grip of the sector. I dont know if thats because they are more practical? or if its just that the average rider age is higher? It'll be interesting to see how it develops
Living in the USA it be great to have the NT1100 come here but the dealers here not want as there is no market for it. The market is the high powered sport bikes for curves that not for long rides. I am using my AT with street type tires. And my CB500X tricked out as adventure bike. Will not ride an European bike as if parts are available they are very expensive. NT1100 market is only for Europe.
New Suzuki Sport Tourer or even a leftover (RF?)previous model. Price, that Suzuki gearbox, anvil like reliable and a dealership on every corner. Game over.
Good video had to watch it again you got my like And subscribe I do wish you would hell if each bike had a chain or shaft final drive it's important to those of us that don't want to screw with a chain and the maintenance. It appears the DCT is the coming thing. My question is a standard regular good old clutch and transmission going to always be an option for motorcycle riders and which motorcycles have lean angle sensors that's fairly new isn't it? If you convert pounds to dollars and liters to gallons you would probably pick up more subscribers just my opinion
Thanks Gary, fair comments and its always a toss up as to how much detail to include without going over the top and bombarding the viewer with facts. In my standalone bike reviews I tend to offer both metric and imperial measurements, but I don’t convert the prices as thats not a fair reflection. The bike are priced differently by market and a straightforward currency conversion wouldn’t be correct in most cases. I assume that anyone really interested in a particular bike will go away an look at the website anyway. Thanks for the subscribe, its very much appreciated.
Looks like Honda have made the same mistake with the cruise control on the right hand side bar like the gen one KTM superduke gt. I have one of these and trying to operate it is impossible to do smoothly as you have to take your grip off the throttle, try doing that at any time especially with a pillion and you’ll see why KTM switched it to the left hand side for the gen two 😩😩😩😩
@@mancavemoto it was more about trying to press the set button at the current speed without altering that set speed by moving the throttle as you did so. Not a major biggy but it makes sense to position on the left if you can.
I can't stand the transformers design of the new sports tourer. It had to be looking god, remembering VF1000F2, GS1100EF and so on. Only bike in 2022 is Guzzi, that I can trade my Ducati ST3 for.
This is a follow up to the 2021 video, and so i didn't cover bikes i'd featured in that video (which I explain in the first 35 seconds), you can see that here - th-cam.com/video/qc8KRIiZzaw/w-d-xo.html
@@mancavemoto You can't call the RT a full dresser when there is the Goldwing, HD Ultra and the K1600. Those bikes outweigh the RT by 200 lbs.(90kg.) at least. I live on the west slope the Rocky Mountains. The RT keeps pace when the roads get twisty. Peace.
The Definition of a Sport Tour...FJR1300. I’ve ridden everything available in the US from Aprillia to Zero electric. I’ve owned my gen 1 FJR for 19 years and 80k flawless miles now. It’s watched several other bikes come and go in my garage over the years. I’ve never once considered selling or trading this bike off. It’s as reliable as the sun and it’s extremely easy and inexpensive to do maintenance on. I’m also not a fan of any bike that has a chain to maintain while out crushing big miles.
Another Series III owner.
As a lover of sport tourers the new Suzuki hits all the right notes for me. I must mention that I also like the look of the Aprilia and the Moto Guzzi.
The Suzuki looks like it could be a winner
Somehow missed the Aprilia's launch
I think it's becoming clearer and clearer to manufacturers that they've sounded the death knell for the Sports Tourer prematurely!
Really enjoyed this video - all the details, no 'opinions', no fluff. Just the facts, perfect. 👍
Much appreciated!
I'd go with the Guzzi by virtue of its shaft drive alone.
@scottloftin1730
Plenty fast for me,but I get what your saying.
Two REALLY stand out this year. The Guzzi and the Suzuk - heart or head? - are the picks by far. Just impatiently waiting for the pricing on the Guzzi. And hard not to like the FJR.
Great roundup as usual, must admit i am really interested in the Suzuki gt.
Cheers, me too
Just ordered mine, can't wait
The FJR is clearly the winner; it checks all the boxes!
There are no winners or losers, just different choices ;) Thanks for watching
6 gears, shaft drive, heated grips, cruise control, adjustable windscreen, preset suspension choices on the fly, large tank. This bike is good for 1k days or all day twisties. Definitely my choice.
Had the DCT. That is a tricky one. It is really cool - and first time out, you quickly think, this is where it is at. And for many, they continue to feel that way. For me, I came to hate it after a month. Always in the wrong gear, never liked how it approached / slowed down / stop lights. But I think it is a brilliant implementation and I can see why some are so sold on it.
What bike and year did you have the DCT? Its vastly improved now that the bike is fitted with a six Axis IMU. Its hard to find fault with it on the 2020 MY Africa Twin
I test rode a VFR1200DCT and hated how it rode, but put it on the NC750 and it was like it was meant for that bike.
Hoping for more tourers with shaft drive
A great vid as usual.
It's good to see a gentle resurgence of the sports-tourer after a few years in exile. I don't have an issue with adventure bikes, like I do with SUVs, but it is obvious that the tall bikes did push out the pure road machines for a while.
I think that for traditional sports-touring, with the emphasis on sports, it would have to be the new Suzuki GT or the Kawasaki SX GT.
Personally, I like things a little bit different, so it would be the MG V100 or the BMW RS.
I think that people can be a bit silly, the RT is the kitchen sink tourer in the R lineup.
Thanks again, for another great video.
Cheers Neil, yes maybe its a sign of a revival in the sector
Nice vid and a great conversation starter! I have an R1250RT, which I love. But if I was to get rid of it, my first pick would be the Multistrada V2S Travel... great looking bike, comfy riding position, excellent build quality, plenty of performance, and almost as many goodies as the RT. Pricier than the competition, but well worth it in my book.
Thanks, I really like the V2, it does pretty much all you’d want on the road
The Tiger 660 has lowered the pegs compared to the Trident which makes for a comfortable perch. It's load capacity is also a massive 223kg, just one less than a Tiger 1200XCa, incredible, that subframe design is something else for such a small bike.
Yet it has a horrible windscreen, no cruise control and no centre stand oh and an absolutely appalling display
@@raulmorell7540 lucky no one will force you to buy it or the other bikes that size without cruise control.
That Honda NT1100 looks really good! My favorite of this video. But that Kawasaki is really nice too…a hard choice maybe.
It really is!
My money would go to the Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX
Good video, thanks.
l hope if you ever do this again you would include the fuel capacity and range. At the end of the day if you are touring especially in some places where garages (fuel stations) are few and far between, its a very important consideration which can break or make a roadtrip.
A good point, thanks
The rocket 3 gt is actually a genuinely great tourer. Hi tech, comfortable with all the features. Personally I’ve used it for many tours. Good fun and fuel efficient with 48mpg….
Thanks to Suzuki for restart to make true Sport Tourer bike. Little expensive at all but not an enduro👌
Sometime i regret my CBF...
If I was to choose one for me I’d go with the Yamaha.
and how is that a SPORTS-touring bike? XD
FJR blows all the others away, literally
And the FJR is designed to run on regular gas. It even runs quite happily on the 85 (US) octane gasoline that you find out in the western USA when you are waay off the beaten path.
in 2-3 years I'd probably like to upgrade my cbr650r for a tuono, that machine looks so good
Nice round up and yes to all of these but the Honda DCT is my pick followed by the Triumph. For now I'll stick with my Suzuki Van Van 125 with top box and lots of bungee leads, got me to my campsite in Devon last summer from Essex and back again, with some off road and beach riding, woo hoo!
Cheers, and I bet you had a blast on it too!
Beautiful suzuki 🔥
It sure is!
CFMoto are a company to watch. An acquaintance rode a CFMoto from China to England years ago. It didn't break down. He reckoned they are now as good as Japanese bikes. I used the past tense because he was killed on his CRF1000L last year in Thailand. Going too fast.
The NT1100 looks awful to me. I'd rather have a CRF1100L.
Good video.
I've yet to get my hands on one, but I hear good things. Sorry about your friend, never nice to hear.
I still think the Africa Twin is the best looking adventure bike on the market
@@mancavemoto I agree about the AT. Stunning bike.
It shouldn’t have broken down anyway. I’ve bought lots of Chinese products from HiFi bits, to machines and kitchen equipment and CCTV. They have a long way to go to rival anything made in Japan and are nowhere near the same level of safety. I’ve worked in China. Ten years I’d say for the basic products. I took out a Benelli TRK502 and it was just itching to rust as well as riding very poorly. I’d advise the public to stick to Japanese bikes and let the third world test out Chinese bikes first
@@grahamhiggins1 That's probably very good advice.
Very much looking forward to the Guzzi V100, beautiful, practical and (for a Guzzi) modern. Price tbc
Enjoyable review Tony. I'd rank my faves as the V100, Tiger 660 and GSX1000S GT in that order. I may leave BM next year!
Cheers
Good video as usual, appreciated. I'm in the market for a Sports Tourer next year - Triumph 660 and Suzuki GSX1000 from your list are on my radar.
Cheers
I wish someone made a sports tourer with sportier bar position and decent power. The only options I've seen are the under-powered Ducati 950 Supersport or over-powered H2 SX. Sadly there us no sports tourer out there for me. Like the look of the new Guzzi though.
Have a look at the Kawasaki Ninja 1000 SX (not the H2)
Outro music? 😁
Great video btw, thx for taking the trouble. 👍
I'd need to look it up, but its a piece of royalty free music i've used on my outro for a while now.
Don't forget, BMW invented sports touring in 1970's with their boxer engine...There's nothing that RT can't do compared to FJR. Or even K16 GT, or R1250 RS. They deserve their spot :) ...being mentioned.
Check out the 2021 Round Up 👍
@@mancavemoto I saw that one first, I did the honorable mention :). I know it's about "motorcycles to watch ..." I just wanted to mention - not to forget about the founding fathers :)
Except for price dependability and dealer network.
@@NoWay-xu1ie it depends where you live. In Europe we have no problems dealing with German motorcycles. We have much more dealers for EU motorcycles than Japaneese. We have one every 30-50 km radius here in Slovenia, even two or three in bigger cityes. But we have only 1 dealer in Slovenia, Ljubljana for Harley ...So HD is same her as BMW in USA (?) ...
Sure there are a lot of great motorcycles. I've owned over 50 and to be honest I've put a lot of miles on KLRs and never had a problem. I trailered my dirt bikes behind a 2002 kawasaki voyager for many miles. But I've road the crap out of my 2013 FJR without an issue. I've had my share of airhead also. And soon as we see the 2022 BSA GOLDSTAR In the USA I will own one or a 650 RE if the BSA doesn't get here soon.
Why did Aprilia kill the Futura??? I, absolutely, love mine, BUT, having moved onto the southeastern U.S. family farm, I have to travel three hours to the nearest Aprilia dealership for service and IT is leaving the Aprilia network on January 1, 2024, due to poor factory support; finding parts for my 2001 RST1000 Futura is high-stakes treasure hunt. Dang it, Aprilia!!!
After 12 seasons with my RT, I must say it is difficult for me to imagine a bike that symbolizes the words sport tourer more than my bike. At 58.46 inches of wheel span and now at 135 HP., and with all the protection and accessories...But I say this from this side of the pound ...(Québec).
Yep its a hard one to beat, I'm hoping to spend some time on one soon. Over here I guess they are seen more as a touring bike than a sports tourer, but we'd just be spiktting hairs to argue over that.
Looking forward to your reviews of all the new “sport tourers” 🏍😃👍 !
You and me both!
It is sad to see the FJR1300 and bikes in its category are disappearing. My question is : What is the replacement for this bike from Yamaha's behalf?
Hi T there is such a great choice of bikes nowadays
Am hoping to change in the new year. To a versys
1000. Enjoyed the video.
As with all your Videos.hope you and your family have a great Christmas and a happy New year
Hi Gary, there certainly is, we are kind of spoilt now. Good luck with the new bike search. Merry Christmas to you and yours
Where is the Kawasaki Concourses 14. It's been around for a while but that's because it's a GREAT bike !!!
That hasn't been available in the UK for sometime now, thats why i didnt include it
Thank's for a great run down on some truly amazing motorcycle's. How to choose? You couldn't go wrong with any of these bike's. I want to wish my British friend a joyous Holiday Season & great health for the New Year!!! Keep those marvelous video's coming as I enjoy them & your time so much. Your friend from across the pond!!! Illinois, USA
Thanks Larry, and I hope you have a great Christmas and all the best for 2022!
Surprised that the BMW R1250RS isn’t included, IMHO a superb bike.
It was in the 2021 round up, so I wanted to concentrate on different bikes for this video
While I agree the BMW R1200RT is more of a touring than a sport-touring motorcycle, you should have included the BMW R1200RS which is without a doubt a sport-touring motorcycle and one of the best.
Check out the 2021 round up video 👍
Being an older design should not exclude the Kawi GTR 1400/Concours 14. It ticks every box, well.
It didnt exlude it, this video was aimed at bikes that are availble to buy new in 2022.
The fjr is supposed to have 145hp and a whopping 136nm
Almost as much torque as a superduke
That is advertised hp. On a dyno, it will produce just under 130 hp at the rear wheel on regular 87 (US) octane gas. And more importantly, the mildly tuned engine produces over 80 lb-ft (about 105 n-m) of torque from 3000 to 8000 rpm, again at the rear wheel.
You get my Thumbs Up for the "Beyyyyyy" at the end of your videos! :)
(The content is great also)
Ha! Cheers
The versus 650 and the cf moto mt 650 are the same bike btw.. cfmoto make them both and only the plastics are different.. That v100 is just the best designed bike ever!
The engine in the CF-moto is a copy of the Kawasaki unit, but they are not the same bike. No denying that the Moto Guzzi is a splendid looking bike
Like your video and it was very informative. I never thought I would see the day when a motorcycle would be designed purposely to operate a cell phone that cemented my view LOL I already knew it, that cell phones are like toilets they're not going anywhere soon. Obviously the sport touring Market and the hardware are both growing and diversifying. By the way I agree with you on the big Beamer it's an all-out Tour Bike. Just my opinion
Glad you liked it!
Nicely edited👍
Thanks 😁
I'll take one of those Motto Guzzi, please.
They do look lovely dont they?!
How can you overlook the KTM 1290 Super Duke GT? Glaring omission in this piece.
As I mentioned 26 seconds into the video, this is a follow on from the 2021 roundup. As the majority of those bikes are still relevant I didn't feature them again, but concentrated on some of the new and notable models coming to the market in 2022. The Super Duke GT even appears at 00:33. You can see the 2021 roundup video here th-cam.com/video/qc8KRIiZzaw/w-d-xo.html
I can't afford a V2s so I have the new 2021 Honda NC750x DCT. No regrets so far.
A cracking bike
my pick of sports tourer - a road bike with panniers(?) designed to be easier on the legs for grandad? would be the busa and a credit card. and ruck sack. So no need for panniers and ugly boxes a wallet and credit card and off we go. travel light.. or speed of light what ever gets you there. wishing everyone a seasons greetings, or merry Christmas and may the life treat you well
Excellent review
Thank you! Cheers!
Thanks for this informative rundown, Tony. I shall look more closely at one or two on your list ASAP.
Now see what you've done!
No problem, and sorry!
Big mix...i just saw 3 Sport-Touring bikes the aprilia tuono, the ducati v2 and the GXS 1000GT...all the rest are touring bikes, no power or handling to make them a SPORT-Touring bike!
and thats one of the points of this video (and the 2021 roundup), The 'traditional' sports tourer as I see it seems to be a dying breed? Check out the 2021 video to see where I was coming from th-cam.com/video/qc8KRIiZzaw/w-d-xo.html
@@mancavemoto I completely agree...there aren't a lot of bike for us that came from RR bikes that just want somenting to go for some trips to have fun! also agree that you went more the tradicional way on your 2021 round up.
Excellent video! Sport touring bikes are my favorite category of bikes but it seems like this segment doesn't really exist anymore or it has vastly changed. But, the bikes presented here the ones that I would check out are the Triumph Tiger, Suzuki and the motoguzzi. The Moto guzzi is the one that I really like and I am waiting on it to come out. I would like to see you do a ride and review or present that when it comes out maybe even compare it to the Triumph 900 and Suzuki that you presented in this video. I use to have a Ducati ST4 and a BMW R 1110 RS I think was the number. Those to me were sport tourers it seems like adventure bikes or something has taken over this segment. What do you think and what bikes do you like in this segment? Thanks
Thanks, I'm looking forward to the Moto Guzzi launching too. I agree more upright 'adventure tourers' are taking a grip of the sector. I dont know if thats because they are more practical? or if its just that the average rider age is higher? It'll be interesting to see how it develops
@@mancavemoto Thanks
The BMW R1250RS is a sport touring bike
and its in the 2021 sports tourer round up video
Living in the USA it be great to have the NT1100 come here but the dealers here not want as there is no market for it. The market is the high powered sport bikes for curves that not for long rides. I am using my AT with street type tires. And my CB500X tricked out as adventure bike. Will not ride an European bike as if parts are available they are very expensive. NT1100 market is only for Europe.
New Suzuki Sport Tourer or even a leftover (RF?)previous model. Price, that Suzuki gearbox, anvil like reliable and a dealership on every corner. Game over.
I'm picking one up in March for a review
How do you feel about the Aprillia Touareg? Looks like a good rival to the Tenere.
I really like it, I think it’ll pull some sales away from the Yam for sure
Good video had to watch it again you got my like And subscribe I do wish you would hell if each bike had a chain or shaft final drive it's important to those of us that don't want to screw with a chain and the maintenance. It appears the DCT is the coming thing. My question is a standard regular good old clutch and transmission going to always be an option for motorcycle riders and which motorcycles have lean angle sensors that's fairly new isn't it? If you convert pounds to dollars and liters to gallons you would probably pick up more subscribers just my opinion
Thanks Gary, fair comments and its always a toss up as to how much detail to include without going over the top and bombarding the viewer with facts. In my standalone bike reviews I tend to offer both metric and imperial measurements, but I don’t convert the prices as thats not a fair reflection. The bike are priced differently by market and a straightforward currency conversion wouldn’t be correct in most cases. I assume that anyone really interested in a particular bike will go away an look at the website anyway. Thanks for the subscribe, its very much appreciated.
I am not so sure. DCT *sounds* like a great idea, and I think it work maybe 98% of the time. But that other 2% . . .
What about the Kawasaki 1000SX?
Check out the 2021 video
th-cam.com/video/qc8KRIiZzaw/w-d-xo.html
@@mancavemoto The H2 is a completely different bike to the Ninja 1000SX (which is not supercharged)
Looks like Honda have made the same mistake with the cruise control on the right hand side bar like the gen one KTM superduke gt. I have one of these and trying to operate it is impossible to do smoothly as you have to take your grip off the throttle, try doing that at any time especially with a pillion and you’ll see why KTM switched it to the left hand side for the gen two 😩😩😩😩
The first release Tiger 1200's were like this too which wasn't popular with owners, they changed it on the next version aswell.
Interesting, it’s the same on the Africa Twin, but it’s within reach of my thumb and I’ve never had a problem with it.
@@mancavemoto it was more about trying to press the set button at the current speed without altering that set speed by moving the throttle as you did so. Not a major biggy but it makes sense to position on the left if you can.
I have a 21 AT DCT , the cruise is no problem at all. I can ride it as far in a day as my 2019 Goldwing I sold.
I can't stand the transformers design of the new sports tourer. It had to be looking god, remembering VF1000F2, GS1100EF and so on. Only bike in 2022 is Guzzi, that I can trade my Ducati ST3 for.
Suzuki 👍👍👍
BMW s1000xr
Watch the 2021 video……. th-cam.com/video/qc8KRIiZzaw/w-d-xo.html
I have agen 1 gsxs. The new gt still gas an awful pillion position.
Honda Rebel 1100T bagger with DCT looks like the touring bargain of 2023 at £11.500
The Ducati multistrada is a nice az bike but sounds like a tractor v2 no good
You must have some pretty refined Tractors! th-cam.com/video/8bYLtbNXTCk/w-d-xo.html
Where is the Ninja 1000SX ?
Check out the 2021 sports tourer video…
No BMW S1000XR ??
Check out the 2021 roundup 👍
MV Agusta TV?
Check out the 2021 video - th-cam.com/video/qc8KRIiZzaw/w-d-xo.html
THe Suzuki should have shaft drive with that HP level.
The Suzuki leans toward the sporty side of sport tourers and shaft is not the best for that.
thank god gave us two kidneys ....
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ill never touch a chinese bike
Ya china just tried to kill everyone.
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The Suzuki needs more suspension travel from=nt and rear.
for what? it's a true SPORT-touring bike...needs a better one but not more travel!
No Kawi Ninja 1000SX but Chinese CMoto? Epic failure mate.
This is a follow up to the 2021 video, and so i didn't cover bikes i'd featured in that video (which I explain in the first 35 seconds), you can see that here - th-cam.com/video/qc8KRIiZzaw/w-d-xo.html
nt1100 is a dissapointment
CFMoto ripped off kawasaki er6f parallel twin engine.
They did yes
I didn't like the sickeningly rapid succession of pictures when you got to the Kawasaki, so I stopped watching.
Its a shame that three seconds of a thirteen minute video put you off, but at least you got halfway through!
It amazes my how many people poo poo bikes with "only" 100 HP. Another area in which people have lost their minds.
I tend to agree, on the road 100hp is about the sweet spot.
Left field is where you belong if you can't see the RT as a sport touring machine, but the Tuono with no bags is. Stick with your Chinese junk.
I mentioned the RT in the 2021 roundup. The tuono does have optional bags
@@mancavemoto You can't call the RT a full dresser when there is the Goldwing, HD Ultra and the K1600. Those bikes outweigh the RT by 200 lbs.(90kg.) at least. I live on the west slope the Rocky Mountains. The RT keeps pace when the roads get twisty. Peace.
The Honda is a little ugly.
What about the Ninja 1000?
I’d consider that an out and out sports bike, not a tourer
@@mancavemoto The ninja 1000 sx?