@yammie noob can you do a video on upgrading from an old motorcylce. i ride a lowered cafe style 1980 sazuki gs750 and i have no idea where to go from here, i want a sport bike but im scared of the power band since im not used to it i was thinking either a yamaha r7 or gsxr750 for my next bike
@tomarctb Maybe look into 600s to start with..? I have a '99 ZZR600, and for only 600cc, it still has plenty of go for me to have loads of fun on. So maybe you could try out say a Gixxer 600 to start with, get a feel for that style of super sport, then maybe step up to say a Gixxer 750..?
I think since he mentioned the Yamaha FJR, he should have mentioned as a parallel equivalent, the Kawasaki Concours. Both a great powerful and reliable bikes. The same with the Suzuki Hayabusa, and the Kawasaki ZX14R. Both bikes have the same virtues so picking one or the other is just a matter of personal opinion. Neither one is really significantly better then the other.
I'm 27 now and I purchased a F800GS at the age of 25 as my second bike and if anyone has seen my videos on my TH-cam channel, you can see it's kitted out
Love it so much I bought a k1200s……….really fell in love with the beamers man and I didn’t expect to as I bought it as a project to make it a cafe racer but bmw brought me over to the dark side from being a Yamaha fan
My thoughts exactly, it’s a big tourer bike with shaft drive, 6th gear overdrive for highway miles, loads of power because of the ZZR1400 powerplant, in short the ultimate middle aged tourer bro bike.
I rode mine yesterday and was reminded of how scary it is to open up. In the blink of an eye you can be doing triple digit speeds on a 700lb bike. If it were an athlete, it would be a offensive lineman.
Kawasaki is still in business? Oh yeah, there’s a single shop 150 miles from here. You know, past the 3 Honda, 3 Yamaha and 2 KTM are along the way. Honestly, there are better coverage around here for Sherco, Beta, Suzuki and AJP than there is for Kawi
Im 58, i just traded in my 09 C14 for a 24 Ninja 1000sx...it fits my riding needs way better & its like 180 lbs less, performance is almost identical & it handles way better. Been riding for 47 years.
At the age of 85 I class myself as a mature rider, most bikes are way too heavy for me now to be mauling around, so I opted for a Yamaha MT-03. Very light at a kerb weight of 168 kg fast enough at 100 + MPH, 90 MPG (imperial) ridden gently, (which it isn't) cheap to buy, run & maintain. What's not to like😃
I'm 31 and going to my msf course in a couple weeks, I hope to be doing the same. When my dad passed from cancer, the last thing he did was take his bike on a cross country road trip. I cant wait to feel what he felt. Keep trucking and do not go gentle into that good night, Rage rage against the dying of the light
The older I get (I’m 54), the less I care about performance numbers. Now it’s all about comfort. I’m on a 2022 Versys 1000 right now and it’s a comfortable commuter that I can take on a day trip without aggravating my bulged L4/L5. Many of us “mature riders” have aches and pains that require either a neutral riding position, or a back rest. I’m thankful to still have the ability to ride, even if it’s on a nerd bike.
I feel ya. The more I approach 50, the more I know I won't be able to daily drive that H2SX. I give it 1 or 2 years, and then it will either be a Versys or the GS
I'm 65 and retired in the Philippines. With the exception of the scooter this country doesn't have the infrastructure to make a single bike on his list enjoyable to ride. 400 cc is a "big bike" here. I recently finished a road trip on a 150 cc Chinese knock off of a Honda CG125. On the best roads here traffic flows around 80 kph (50 mph). I clock more miles in the 40 - 60 kph range and spend at least half of my drive time under 40. Urban traffic close to home is so constipated I'm more likely to hop on a bicycle for local errands. It's literally a different world from where Yammie rides.
I grew up on and around motorcycles. At 57 years young and being a "mature and experienced rider" I finally own my dream bike, a ZX10R. I am a bit "weird", (and my wife will agree) not one of those bikes in the video interest me at all. 🤷🏻♂Everyone is different and has different and unique likes and dislikes. I don't have one single thing against any one of those motorcycles. As long as you are out riding on 2 wheels life is good. 😎👊 Keep yourself safe! 😃👍❤🏍 Randy
I'm 76 years. I ride a 2023 BMW R1250rt because of the comfort, versatility, power, relatively light weight (615lbs), handling and features. It is equally happy doing in town run-arounds or going a thousand mile loop around West Virginia.
As a 40 something rider who has been riding for 20+ years, and has not been on a sports bike in 10 years, the spot on description of the Ninja 1000 was great. The CALL of the in-line four cannot be denied and my most recent purchase was the Ninja 1000. My next will probably be a goldwing 😂
I can't stress how amazing my ST1300 feels to me. I get rediculous range so I don't have to stop unless I want to, so far it's been. Very reliable, amazing storage capacity, great headlights, doesn't eat tires. It's just a good bike and feel like it should have a spot in the "mature rider bike" category.
I feel like the Pan European ST1300 would be on the list if Honda didn’t drop them ages ago. It’s a hella comfy ride with a great engine, better then the VFR1200 that ‘replaced’ it.
@@SephiMasamune you have to be the 3rd person to write that to me. And I've heard quite a bit of people say that to me. I was thinking.....man imagine if Honda detuned the fireblade RR-R's motor and gave it more torque. Then adjusted the seating position for sport touring riding, gave it all the SP RR-R's tech along with cruise control and heated grips and seat and called it something like.....ST1000-R Fireblade. If it was 30k, I would buy it in a heartbeat!!! However....Honda has to keep that 7.7gallon fuel capacity. I still need that 360-400mile range depending on elevation. And we are cooking with money!
Staring at 4 on this list right now in my garage - near same as you and still smile looking at each one - hunting for one other on the list . I got 4 bikes for the price of 1 . That’s wisdom of being mature I guess
However, you can tell it's an American list. European one would be a bit different with GS as number one, number two and the number three. Also, the bikes not mentioned here but strong in Europe are GSF, Transalp, TDM and Fat Boy
I'm a young guy who rides a BMW GS, and I love it. I actually think its a very underrated bike for younger folks because it embodies the do everything life style that many young people live. I commute it daily, and its great because its an ultra comfortable commuter, that I can do light off roading, and some twisty roads on. I am a young guy, and I can not afford 2 bikes, so I need something that will do it all, and the GS just does. The reason I chose a GS over other adv bikes is because I am a very tall, and large man, and feel cramped on many bikes, so I wanted a full sized adv, but most of the other offerings are too expensive; the GS has been around so long that they are actually surprisingly cheap for a higher mileage used example. For anyone curious why someone under 25 might buy a GS, I hope this gives you an answer.
75 now. Ugh, (but still immature). Your insights are hilarious and spot on. Love them. You clearly know motorcycles, motorcycling and the people who ride them. Believe you inadvertently forgot the V-Strom- specifically, the wee-storm and its cult following. I am still working on finding my finishing bike. Keep up the good work!
Yeah, a lot of older riders like the Vstrom650. Decent at most everything, and not fast enough to get you killed in a week - though definitely fast enough to get you killed someday.
@YammieNoob He's here!! 😜JK. I'm kind of the other way around. I got my license at 30 and got a naked 4cyl Honda Hornet. Yes, I miss my twenties... but I love that screaming engine!
@@attilacooper5837 I'm 31 and my msf course is in 2 weeks, basically never ridden a motorcycle. Going back and forth between a sv650, an old monster 796, xsr700, Cb650r, or a triumph trident 660. Depending on what I can find around me haha. May also end up with a 400 size, but I'm a cautious person so I'm pretty in it. How do you like the hornet, ive looked at it a lot too.
Great touring bike, love the engine and I have to admit I have spent a ton of hours offroad on mine having a ton of fun. . . The GS confuses people. It is as he says, but so much more. . .
@@somedude9378 600 hornet was my second bike after a ninja 500. First time I actually opened it up I was heading to the liquor store to buy a 6 pack and I was shaking from all the adrenaline when I gave the cashier my money. I probably looked like an alcoholic lol.
58 year old rider here. Bought my first V-max 1200 way back when they first came out in 1985-86. Had a short squid period riding Interceptors, Ninjas and Gsxr's around the late 80's to early 90's. Still riding my 2001 V-max 1200 and can't imagine riding any other bike.
I had a 90' Vmax from 2000-2009 and I had plenty of fun rides on her. I sold her with 50K and got a Warrior. Still think I'll get another Vmax one day, maybe a 2005 anniversary model.
This mature rider rides a '14 Monster 1200s (red). It's my daily commuter across one bridge in the SF Bay Area. Absolutely love this bike. It's a little wide, sometimes, for lane splitting but it turns a 60 - 90 minute commute into 30 minutes on average. The HOV discounted bridge toll is also a plus.
I'm an old HD evolution engine rider, but still have a 2001 Honda st 1100. Carburated v4 that doesn't red line till 8k. The bike flies and can do it all day. Can't make myself get ride of it. It's worth more to me than what it's worth to ever sell.
Hi Yammie, I had an R1200gs at age 21. A Goldwing GL1800 at 27. Then a R1200GSA at 29. Now have an interceptor 650 at 33. I’ve had R6s ,Ninjas 600, Fazer 1000 and more in between. I wish I could have kept them all. But I’ve learned that the best bike in the world is the one you’re riding. So it doesn’t really matter 😊
I can only speak from my experience as riding is so personal to anyone riding on 2 wheels, regardless of age. 64 years old, started riding QA50's and SL70's in the desert north of Reno. Bottom line, as other older riders have commented, comfort has a huge portion of the decision making at this age. I get on my '86 K75S, and after an hour everything aches except for my smile. Get on my RT, and I can literally ride all day without too much discomfort. Love your videos, and there is no substitute for horsepower until the years start creeping up to match the horsepower specs on the bike!
I'm 29 and have both the K1600GT and an R1250GS Adventure as my second and third bikes. The refinement and sound of the 6 cylinder makes for a great riding experience. The 1250 boxer is so torquey and entertaining to ride. I like to go camping with the bikes and the usability of these bikes is hard to beat.
Riding any bike older than when you first got your licence, marks you out as a mature rider... Born in '68, full licence in '83, now riding a GPZ 750... and lovin' it... It's about the bikes we dreamed of... Those aspirational bikes are not as cutting edge as they once were, but nostalgia counts when your 55 and your back, knees and wrists, can't cut it anymore... Live Right, Ride Free....
I’ve been riding motorcycles since I was 14 and I’m now 56. Out of all the motorcycles I’ve ever ridden there was only one that I literally could not wait to get off of and that was the Suzuki Hayabusa. At the time I was driving a 2008 Versys 650 and swapped out with my friend’s Hayabusa. I lliterally drove the Hayabusa about 2 miles, and could not wait to get off of that pig fast enough. It felt like going from a jet ski to driving a cruise ship. That’s the only bike I’ve ever driven that I never want to drive again.
I own an '09 Yam FJR1300AE and I love it. I am aged 71. For long rides I've found nothing better. It east miles in comfort and speed in all kinds of weather. That said, my 2nd bike is a '13 Suzuki Burgman 650, the largest "scooter" made, and I ride it more than I ride my FJR. The Burg is MORE comfortable, does 80 on the highway, with gear, loaded and still has passing revs, and is easier to handle than the FJR.
My Ninja 1000 was for sale used at a dealer for $9,500. The dealer had 8 younger riders try to buy the bike, and they could not get approved for the loan. They sold it to me for $8500 cash for a 3 year old bike with 2,000 miles. They had to fight off another Ninja 650 rider wanting to upgrade while I was purchasing the bike. I am upper 40's, but not that experienced (12kmiles in 2 years)...but I had to have the scream of an inline 4, so you got it right.
I like this style of video much better than the other yammi videos with the random clips in it. I honestly had to stop watching but I can do this any day! Thanks yammi
You mixed up the road king and road glide, understandable. However, they now come with either the 114 or 117 Milwaukee 8 engine. Much bigger and more powerful than the 103.
I've been riding since I was 16 and I found my ideal bike at 38. It was a low mileage 1978 Triumph T140V Bonneville 750, and I still have it 30 years later, so I think I count as a mature rider. I still love riding it, the sound and the feel of it, and will keep it as long as I'm capable of kickstarting it (starts first kick). A couple of years ago, after I retired, I added a 1980 Suzuki GS550L to use as a winter bike (weather not too severe here in southern England, but loads of salt on the roads at this time of year). I'm not keen on modern bikes, too much complication (and expense). I prefer the simplicity of air cooling, carburettors and kick starters (even the GS550 has a kickstarter as back up for the electric start). Both of them together weigh less than one Road King, so they are easy to handle.
Mature rider here, 64. Been riding sine I was 12. Enjoyed your video. Have a few bikes on your list - FJR13ES, K16GT, & R1259GSA. I must be a tweener cause I also have a 1290 Super Duke, R1, and a GenII VMax. Still play in the dirt as well - 690R, 500EXC, & 300XCW when I'm really in a dirty mood.
37 years old now, been riding for 18 years and i settled on the Kawasaki Z900rs. Maybe i’m a modern retro hipster but i feel like bike gives me everything i would need.
I’m 45 and only been riding for a year, but an FJR1300 and a Goldwing are both on my radar once I’ve been riding for a decade. The police in my state in Australia ride FJR1300’s as they do in most our states and they look awesome
I been riding since 1973 started with a Honda Z50, then 125 and 250. In 1983 went to street bikes with a Honda CB900C custom. I have always had a some type of bike since. I am 58 years old and just purchased a 2022 Triumph T120 1200cc Bonneville. I love this bike it reminds me of the old bike we use to ride, but it also rides great.
DR650 ..you're spot-on. I commute 200mi/wk on it and can still play off road. I've put enough money into jetting, opening up the airbox and piping it, that I could've bought a KTM ..Unlike the KTM, it won't leave me stranded.
30 year old fully kitted out BMW GSA 1250 2022. 4th bike, Ninja 250 > Ninja 300 > Indian Scout Bobber > GSA. I live down the road in San Antonio if you want to interview lol
I'm an older rider and here in merrie old England there is a definite trend towards smaller displacement bikes for us oldsters. Royal Enfield have sold a LOT of 350s!!! I love trundling round on my Classic 350. Still got my Dad bike Triumph Trophy 1215 though, for those long two up tours. And an XR400. And a VFR750. Got to love a NACA duct. Oh, and a Dorsoduro 750 for the odd hooligan day out. My finisher bike will be the ultimate Dad brand, a Guzzi. But I have a feeling the 350 will be the one I'm riding in my 90s 😎
I had this family across the street from my childhood home back in the early 80's. He had some 400cc UJM and then moved up to a 750. Hadn't seen him for years and a year ago he became a Facebook friend. He is now 80 and is riding a Goldwing Trike in NC. It seemed that after the 750 he moved onto Goldwings and belonged to Goldwing specific clubs in NJ and NC for at least the last 30 years. Well one day on FB he commented on something I wrote and my aunt commented on his comment. She too lives down south and was curious how they knew each other. Turns out they both belonged to the same Goldwing club in NJ. Now here is the kicker. My aunt was put up for adoption when she was 3. Maybe back in 1951. My mom (the oldest of 6) passed in 1989 and hadn't seen here sister since the adoption. We found my aunt and her twin brother only a couple of years ago, and for a time they were only minutes apart and didn't know it.
@@CB500Xoo7 I wish. Just that the guy across the street was friends with my aunt via a motorcycle club. My aunt was put up for adoption in 1948ish. This guy lived across the street from us in the early '80s. My mom pasted in 1989. We found my aunt only four years ago.
@@raddrider4466 ah ok. What a small world. Sorry for your loss and happy that you got to meet your aunt. That’s pretty cool. I’ve got a brother somewhere in Germany but thus far unable to track him down.
Yammie, this vid is hilarious. I’ve been a rr rider for years & about to order the 2023 CBR500r. Been on bikes ever since I could. Had a 250r for 4 years & absolutely loved it. Only complaint was it’s lack of power.
I am in your target age group. i ride a GSX1250FA (A fully faired Bandit). Probably a bit old to mention on the clip, but it is the spiritual father of the GSX1000GT. Love it to bits, torque all day, good at touring, all day rides and the twisties.
I’m the old dude you are speaking of. Fifty one years of making mistakes and a few good decisions here and there. Totally recently bought a BMW R 1200RT and freaking love it. Not ashamed. Easy maintenance. It heats my hands and my butt. Massive TORKS. Previous bikes were Honda Interceptor, GSXR 750 and a Ducati 900 SS. You nailed it!!
I am a retired GSXR rider, had three. As far as sport bikes my heart is with the GSXR. I am tall and needed the extra frame length. But now I ride a Multistrada 1200 and MAN what a great bike. Fun for spirited rides but comfy enough for all day rides with ample room for storage of drinks, snacks, clothes etc. My crew and I pack up the bikes and ride the most rural parts of NH that we can find and have a friggin blast. I have lived in NH for more than 30 years and still am riding thru towns that I never knew existed lol. When the time comes and if I can I will definitely buy another Ducati!!!
You nailed it. I have a dr650 in my shed, my dad has a fj1300, I’ve been riding a bmw k1300 for the last 10 years (and it shits in hayabusers). I’m 49,been riding dirt bikes for 33 years and I’m about to by a new r1250gs. Love your work.
I'm 74. -Started riding when I went away to college since my parents were a solid no for me to go riding out from their home with a gas tank between my legs. I've looked at most of these bikes with considerable interest but with each new purchase I defer to power-to-weight-to-dollar spent when the time comes to pull the trigger. -Current immature granddad bikes: MT-10 and Husky 701 SM.
The Road King you have in the picture is a 2017 to current Milwaukee Eight 107 as it clearly says on the air cleaner. You're rattling off stats for the older twin cam.can. Also at 4:50. What batwing fairing are you talking about?
I’m 35 and was actually looking at the 1250 gs as my 2nd bike for touring and hit some dirt trails nothing too off-road but CO has a lot of gravel and dirt roads
I am 57 and have been riding for almost 35 years and own a 1974 CB360 T a Suzuki Bandit 1250s a Honda blackbird, a Honda vtx 1800 and a VFR 1200 X and aYamaha VMax 1700 ,I am currently restoring a 1978 CD 200 and a Yamaha fj 1200 . You are spot on in your selection but I think as time goes on you realise what works best almost always .
Man call me odd, I am 57 and started on the street on a RZ350. Fourteen bikes later I grew up to a Tuono 1000. and now I am on a Tuono 660. I am looking forward to the release of the Kawasaki 400r inline four. Maybe looking fondly at the years I rode my 1989 CB1 400 for 80,000 miles. After 35 years I have found bigger is not better, maybe the technology has caught up to some of us old guys.
57 Y/O rider, loved this video!!! My stable, BMW K1600GTL (yes had a FJ1300), Ducati ST3s, and Husqvarna 701(never a DR). Your take on each bike was pretty spot on! Obviously there are exceptions, but I worked in M/C for 15 years and found it hard to argue with almost all of what you had to say! Keep up the great work! I really enjoy your channel!
I’ve had 2 FJRs and at age 56 graduated to a BMW R1200RT. I plan to ride this until I can’t balance, see well or fit into my gear. Then I’ll get a Goldwing.
I'm a 60+ rider and my 2006 FJR1300-AE (no clutch, paddle shift) is superb. Yammie will be riding an FJR in the future. The shaft drive is smooth as melted butter and rarely needs service.
How about a Yamaha FZ1! It's decently comfortable with it's upright riding position. It's super fun and powerful ! Can easily mask as a touring bike! You must see a bunch of old guys riding a first or second gen FZ1!
Pretty damned accurate...I'm 47 have a dr650 with modified suspension as the factory bits just plain suck. I primarily use it offroad, but it isn't my primary bike. I think a honorable mention for the list, Gen 2 Yamaha VMAX. I have never seen anyone under 40 have one. 1 because it is a powerful bike that can get away from an inexperienced rider very quickly and new they are, or were as Yamaha discontinued production, very expensive.
on my 50th I sold my busa and bought A Honda VTX 1800c and this is my last bike and i love it its a narly , powerful and A riders bike and you really have to be A mature rider to respect this beast.
32 here. First bike purchased last month (12/2022). 2013 ninja 1000. More sport tour-ey than supersport. All the torques all the time. 91 in 1st gear if I feel the need to squid. Great all around bike. If you're afraid of throttle control or a baby squid, definitely dont recommend starting on it, especially with its 503lb wet weight.
Soon to be 51, have been riding since 1992. bought a Ducati 999 this summer, yeah my back, knees, arms, ankles, hands hurts like hell after a couple of hours in the seat, but the smile on my face is all the pain worth. Stay safe fellow riders.
51 yrs old/young (riding since childhood) love your list and caught myself appreciating these type bikes more in the last 2 or so years...own a crf 450x for lighter off road (use to be 2 strokes only) BMW k1300s for comfortable flying with luggage and a BMW R1200r naked for town and traffic...I also hated the boxer motor when I was 35 ...now I just love the way it makes power ....wishing everyone a safe ride...😉
I'm 76 now and on a year old SuperDuke. My youngest son has a Road Glide and he's a natural with a motorcycle and makes that bike move much like mine. I only envy him when we're on large freeways or interstate roads where he moves around with such comfort while additionally having his amazing road skills. I started out late in life to bicycling and loved it. Motorcycling was an embellishment of the good of bicycling plus the feeling of flying. That's why it's just bar-end folding mirrors and a tail tidy today so I can maintain that ghostly idea of moving at speed through the environment . . . that and a reminder of my teenage power and athleticism. The wind rarely is even a thought although there would be on occasion an appreciation for an invisible bubble of protection from the elements. So, your essay does cut at the predictability that can come with age and income. Me throwing up my, "We'll I avoided all this. I'm special. I'm what you might imagine yourself to be as a rider at my age." has a note of smug and posing. I did see an Instagram reel from a young lady decked out in leathers on a 600 commenting on how an older guy in the video just came up to her and said he rides/owns a SuperDuke. I can see that - wanting to be part of youth and beauty - sharing for a bone of acknowledgment to be returned. But I know I'm not alone for I've seen a number of snow caps or baldies like myself on sporty rides removing their helmets and looking serious and fit . . . confident. It is a way: choosing a motorcycle that is consistent with one's personal values that go logically back to that first taste of freedom of movement and territorial access experienced with our first 10 speed bicycle (12 speed as is now common and still in my possession). I can see that and maybe you can too.
So, let me start by telling you how much I enjoy channel. Now, I notice that you totally blew off Triumph! I'm 55, and I've spent the last few years riding a T120 Bonneville Black around. I got lots of love and respect for doing so. Now, I traded that in for a Tiger 660 Sport. I love the Tiger, it's light, has a fair amount of power, for sane people, and the only drawback is that it's a little tall. The tallness is necessary, it's a really nice little road bike, up until about 100 mph. I commute on it (too often), and take it out to the country, and ride on weekends. It does keep up on the interstates, but not my fave place to ride. So, Daytona Dude, please go ride a Tiger 660, and tell us all what you think! People need to know how much fun that bike is, and it's just Dandy for Geezers like me, that have ridden since back in the UJM days. Do it. 🙂
This whole "getting older" thing is absolutely hilarious. Young, naive Yammie Noob is talking about a 45-year-old's "finisher" bike, LOL!!!! It's really not that bad, Yammie! I don't feel old. Would I want my 30-year-old body back? Yeah, but only because it looked better ;). My 30-year-old brain? No way! Everybody ages differently, though. One of my students in class today was just a year older than me, and he was old! Could barely swing his leg over the seat and a bit of a "know-it-all" attitude. Me: 62, 2005 Kawasaki ZZR 1200, carbureted, never any problems, more comfortable than a ZX-10R, better handling and performance than an FJR 1300, a little heavy at 600 lbs wet, 6.1-Gal tank. Take it on a trip, take it to the track just for fun. 0-60 in 2.6 sec with a skilled rider (tested in MOTORRAD magazine #22/2002). Total sleeper. Have been eyeing the H2 SX SE, though. But my "finisher" bike probably hasn't been designed yet.
A more mature rider in his early 70s here who went from the Yamaha FJR (that my wife and I loved) to a Harley Davidson Tri-Glide a couple years ago. The Tri-Glide has extended our riding lives for many years to come and we are grateful for that. The trike community is growing in our region as the riding population continues to age. Three wheels now provides a new level of confidence and comfort on the road and made our touring adventures even more enjoyable but at a higher cost. So I would give the Tri-Glide an honorable mention as a "motorcycle" for your most mature riders only.
I'm 67 now. I've had Dirt bikes (first was an Ossa), Rice Rockets & everything in between. I have no clue as to why you "Hate" the BMR R engine. I got a1983 R100RT from my buddy who had bought it brandy-dandy. 2 years ago I sold it at 208,000 miles and someone else is riding it now. It has never been apart & only required Gas, Oil, Tires, a couple of Batteries & Spark Plugs & Light Bulbs. The Valves are soooooo easy to adjust. No bike disassembly or tank removal. I picked up a 1999 BMW R1100R with 34k on the clock for a steal. It's a naked bike as I no longer do distance touring, but I'm fully confident I could take it to Alaska & back from Connecticut without issue. It's chipped so delivers about 100 Hp and (tested twice) does 0-60 in barely over 3 seconds. At only 518# it's excellent in the twisties and my neighbors never hear me coming or going. Not as comfortable as (but close to) the R100RT or my all-time favorite I got when I was 21, the Suzuki GT 750 (Water Buffalo) which I could ride forever & year round in total comfort. I think you underestimate how many "Old" guys go for the Beemer R with it's unmatched longevity, reliability & no stinking chain. I see plenty every day. Barely ever see the bikes you mentioned, except the Harleys (swarms of them) and the Gold Wings. Being only 160#, those are too annoyingly heavy for me, and they don't handle, perform or brake. P.S. The BMW Ks suck. All of them. I rode a 1200. Total dog. Felt like a wheelbarrow. I had better performance from my '73 Honda CB 350 twin.
I suspect I fall under Yammie's "mature" rider category at 43 years old and about 22 years of riding. I am actually about to pick up a Honda VFR1200F and also have an Indian FTR 1200S and an Indian Challenger. I won't say I didn't consider an FJR, though. lol........
The Busa, the ZX-14r, and K1300S are pretty much sportbikes/sport touring bikes for mature riders. Hell, I bought my ZX-11 from an 82 year old man who rode it to deliver it.
57 years old, 35 as a rider. Honda 919 (main bike), KLR 650 (gravel and mild dirt) and a 1985 Nighthawk S (resto project). Those cover my needs for now.
I think the one thing you got wrong about the dr650 is it is not about how exciting a motorcycle is. The KTM might be slightly better but if the dr650 is 98% there and will run for 100k+ miles where the ktm might be in the salvage yard before 15k. These older guys just don't care and want to ride and not work on there bike anymore.
I’m about to hit 70 years old this year. Owned 3 bikes. 1976 Kaw 900 LTD, Kaw 1000 ST and a Kaw 1000 Ninja. I stick with a brand that never breaks no matter how hard you ride it. Currently have 74,000 miles on the Ninja. It does everything well. With the Akro exhaust and intake howl it’s always ready for more!
Great video. Loving my FJR1300. Spec is off. “Mature and experienced” 68yo here and had a good laugh at myself as I watched this. Today my dreams have caught up to me. Sold the 03 R6 last year when I retired, and looked for my next bike. Not my dream bike to kill the world or make a statement, but rather a performance bike that will help me experience the world. This statement doesn’t sell alot of bikes but it is a reality. Thanks for making room in the lineup of killer bikes, for a back to basics riding machine. I have moved from “riding a means to an end”, to “riding the dream”. The weight is 650 lbs wet with bags. Without 630 lbs. The torque on the gen 3 2014 is 101 ft lbs at crank. :-)
So... I am the person who is 21 years old, and bought a GS1250 as my third motorcycle! 🤣😂 I bought it because I got married early, and my wife loves to ride with me, she is always on my back traveling, we live in Brazil and before the GS, we had the Ninja 400 and the MT07, and we traveled over 9K miles in Brazil, and being honest , it was not comfortable at all. So we decided to buy a new GS and enjoy more together. It is not fully equipped, because I use as my daily too, but I have backpacks that are easily removable.
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At the age of 57 i am the guy that rode sport bikes while i was young so i have ridden the Honda ST1300 and this year i have replaced it this year with the Suzuki gsx s1000gt. Its 200 lbs lighter and am enjoying this bike. I comute to work and the bags do a great job holding my computer and my lunch. Highly recommend it for any old sport bike rider. I enjoy your vids. And oh yeah i am lucky enough to be able to have several bike so my cruiser is an Indian Chieftain elete...so many bikes out there
After spending many hours pouring over specs and videos I determined that the DRZ400 was the ideal dual purpose bike. Being 64 years old, 5 ft 4 in short, and owning over 30 bikes, I must confess I own a DR650 which I picked over the winter on paper DRZ400, and over the KLR 650 which I sold. And while we're at it I might as well confess that my other favorite dual purpose bike is a TW200. 🥴
Just turned 69 yo. I have a 2010 Triumph Rocket III Touring. I remapped the ECU to eliminate the factory restrictions, added a ram-air filter and got rid of the cat pipes. Just can't let it go even though it's getting a bit heavy. The 2nd bike I bought was a brand new 1978 Honda CB 750K. Loved it, but now I will not get anything with spokes or a chain. Just don't want to mess with those. I'll probably downsize in the next 5 years or so. I'll see what's out there then.
Sorry Yam, but your Road King bit got me. The Road King is like the entry-level touring bike from Harley. You then get into all the Road Glide and Street Glide variants. And they haven't made the 103 since 2016. Bikes in your listed price range will be M8 engines, that start at 107ci and range up to the SE 131ci. All of which make more power than the 103 (from 80hp/100 lb/ft to 120hp/130 lb/ft, all at the wheel). I know those aren't super impressive numbers (I came from sportbikes, like a lot of non-boomer Harley owners) but people are usually misinformed that HD's are super low powered pigs. The cool thing is, they're very similar to old big block v8's. A simple cam swap and tune, and you can easily add 40% more power and still get 40 mpg for the next 40k+ miles.
I owned a 2017.5 1200GS as my second bike at 30 years old. Bought it to put the wife on the back (classic mistake) and for low depreciation. She decided she didn't want to ride, so after 1 year I sold it to a recent retiree for more than I paid for it and picked up a Z900RS cafe.
Notable mention for “Sportier” dad bikes are the Honda VFR800 5th gen to 8th gen. The Suzuki GSF1250fa (bandit with fairing), the Triumph Sprint series, the Triumph Rocket, Indian Scouts. Kawasaki Z800, Z900 & Z1000 with handle bars not clip ons. I’m 36 and I have Suzuki SV1000s and no one ever seems to know what that even is😂
74 yo here. The Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Classic LT woohoo! Beautiful retro classic styling. A very comfortable inexpensive extremely reliable lighter weight cruiser (at about 625 lbs) Agile enough and light enough for effortless city driving. And this bike will go 65 happily all day long. Very low center of gravity and seat position, about 27inches as I recall. The LT trim includes a windscreen and studded seat with passenger back rest. I love this bike!
You might need to give me a call. I am 27 and bought a 07' R1200GS @ 95k for my second "street bike", after a 18' Grom. I have put 15k on the bike in the last 3 months, now touching 110k. It is a fully kitted ready to rally rig. I've ridden MX almost my entire life for preface, but only decided to start riding on road in 2021.
I have to comment! I actually know a 26 year old girl who owns a BMW R1200 GS. She takes it offroad, sometimes with her father who rides a 1100 GS and a Honda 600 Transalp. The girl was a car fanatic, tuning and styling her own car. I often found her at car meetings or at work when she came to visit her dad who was my colleague. She has outgrown cars, the 1200 GS is her second bike and on it she is a free spirit.
56 years old, 2013 KTM SXF350, 2016 Victory Vegas 8 ball 106, 2022 Harley street glide ST Always safe, geared up and always riding like I stole it. Awesome channel. Appreciate it!
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ZZR1100..
@yammie noob can you do a video on upgrading from an old motorcylce. i ride a lowered cafe style 1980 sazuki gs750 and i have no idea where to go from here, i want a sport bike but im scared of the power band since im not used to it i was thinking either a yamaha r7 or gsxr750 for my next bike
@tomarctb Maybe look into 600s to start with..?
I have a '99 ZZR600, and for only 600cc, it still has plenty of go for me to have loads of fun on.
So maybe you could try out say a Gixxer 600 to start with, get a feel for that style of super sport, then maybe step up to say a Gixxer 750..?
I think since he mentioned the Yamaha FJR, he should have mentioned as a parallel equivalent, the Kawasaki Concours. Both a great powerful and reliable bikes. The same with the Suzuki Hayabusa, and the Kawasaki ZX14R. Both bikes have the same virtues so picking one or the other is just a matter of personal opinion. Neither one is really significantly better then the other.
I'm 27 now and I purchased a F800GS at the age of 25 as my second bike and if anyone has seen my videos on my TH-cam channel, you can see it's kitted out
Smart, experienced riders know that on the street, midrange torque is infinitely more important than peak power. And comfort really counts...
That’s why you turbo the busa
Raymond is right
speed triple all day
Maybe this is just because I’m young but I’ve always said “if you want comfort, drive a car”
@AtlanticSquib thats what I say to all my bagger friends who don't actually tour anywhere ! 😆
65yrs old. I ride a 1984 BMW R100 RT. A bike with plenty of character from a golden age of motorcycling and still a great touring machine.
I have an 88 k100 love it
Love it so much I bought a k1200s……….really fell in love with the beamers man and I didn’t expect to as I bought it as a project to make it a cafe racer but bmw brought me over to the dark side from being a Yamaha fan
Haven’t owned an R bike yet…….key word yet……..love the look I bet yours is sick
62 already and riding an 85 BMW K100RT. Lovin' every minute of it!
I’m pretty sure Yammie lives in an alternate dimension where the Concours 14 does not exist
My thoughts exactly, it’s a big tourer bike with shaft drive, 6th gear overdrive for highway miles, loads of power because of the ZZR1400 powerplant, in short the ultimate middle aged tourer bro bike.
I rode mine yesterday and was reminded of how scary it is to open up. In the blink of an eye you can be doing triple digit speeds on a 700lb bike. If it were an athlete, it would be a offensive lineman.
They still make this bike? Honest question wasn't in my radar! lol
Kawasaki is still in business? Oh yeah, there’s a single shop 150 miles from here. You know, past the 3 Honda, 3 Yamaha and 2 KTM are along the way. Honestly, there are better coverage around here for Sherco, Beta, Suzuki and AJP than there is for Kawi
Im 58, i just traded in my 09 C14 for a 24 Ninja 1000sx...it fits my riding needs way better & its like 180 lbs less, performance is almost identical & it handles way better. Been riding for 47 years.
At the age of 85 I class myself as a mature rider, most bikes are way too heavy for me now to be mauling around, so I opted for a Yamaha MT-03. Very light at a kerb weight of 168 kg fast enough at 100 + MPH, 90 MPG (imperial) ridden gently, (which it isn't) cheap to buy, run & maintain. What's not to like😃
Awesome!
I’m only 40, but I hope to be 85 and riding one day! Amazing.
I'm 31 and going to my msf course in a couple weeks, I hope to be doing the same.
When my dad passed from cancer, the last thing he did was take his bike on a cross country road trip.
I cant wait to feel what he felt.
Keep trucking and do not go gentle into that good night,
Rage rage against the dying of the light
MT-03.. Nice Choice.. Your Grand Kids can learn on it too! Try that with a Villages E-Bike!
You’re probably the oldest living R3 owner in the World ! 🌎 👍
The older I get (I’m 54), the less I care about performance numbers. Now it’s all about comfort. I’m on a 2022 Versys 1000 right now and it’s a comfortable commuter that I can take on a day trip without aggravating my bulged L4/L5. Many of us “mature riders” have aches and pains that require either a neutral riding position, or a back rest. I’m thankful to still have the ability to ride, even if it’s on a nerd bike.
I feel ya. The more I approach 50, the more I know I won't be able to daily drive that H2SX. I give it 1 or 2 years, and then it will either be a Versys or the GS
I bought a vstrom dl1000 for similar reasons,
55 here ,vstrom 650 generation2 a comfortable commuter thats all i want
I'm 65 and retired in the Philippines. With the exception of the scooter this country doesn't have the infrastructure to make a single bike on his list enjoyable to ride. 400 cc is a "big bike" here. I recently finished a road trip on a 150 cc Chinese knock off of a Honda CG125. On the best roads here traffic flows around 80 kph (50 mph). I clock more miles in the 40 - 60 kph range and spend at least half of my drive time under 40. Urban traffic close to home is so constipated I'm more likely to hop on a bicycle for local errands. It's literally a different world from where Yammie rides.
With you all the way, I'm 62 with a knee replacement, versys 1000 is comfort and enjoyment
I grew up on and around motorcycles.
At 57 years young and being a "mature and experienced rider"
I finally own my dream bike, a ZX10R. I am a bit "weird", (and
my wife will agree) not one of those bikes in the video interest
me at all. 🤷🏻♂Everyone is different and has different and unique
likes and dislikes. I don't have one single thing against any one
of those motorcycles. As long as you are out riding on 2 wheels
life is good. 😎👊
Keep yourself safe! 😃👍❤🏍
Randy
Good chance my next bike will be a ZX-10R or Yamaha R1
Am 50, currently riding a Kawasaki ZZR 600 with most all the mods.
@@rowdybroomstick6394 😎👊
this comment made my day, have fun and stay safe randy❤️🙏
When I bought my RR at 41, the dealer said I was the youngest guy to buy a RR in many years. Oldest was close to 70.
Randy you’re a legend nobody on TH-cam signs off comments with their name
I'm 76 years. I ride a 2023 BMW R1250rt because of the comfort, versatility, power, relatively light weight (615lbs), handling and features. It is equally happy doing in town run-arounds or going a thousand mile loop around West Virginia.
As a 40 something rider who has been riding for 20+ years, and has not been on a sports bike in 10 years, the spot on description of the Ninja 1000 was great. The CALL of the in-line four cannot be denied and my most recent purchase was the Ninja 1000. My next will probably be a goldwing 😂
I can't stress how amazing my ST1300 feels to me. I get rediculous range so I don't have to stop unless I want to, so far it's been. Very reliable, amazing storage capacity, great headlights, doesn't eat tires. It's just a good bike and feel like it should have a spot in the "mature rider bike" category.
I feel like the Pan European ST1300 would be on the list if Honda didn’t drop them ages ago. It’s a hella comfy ride with a great engine, better then the VFR1200 that ‘replaced’ it.
@@SephiMasamune you have to be the 3rd person to write that to me. And I've heard quite a bit of people say that to me. I was thinking.....man imagine if Honda detuned the fireblade RR-R's motor and gave it more torque. Then adjusted the seating position for sport touring riding, gave it all the SP RR-R's tech along with cruise control and heated grips and seat and called it something like.....ST1000-R Fireblade.
If it was 30k, I would buy it in a heartbeat!!! However....Honda has to keep that 7.7gallon fuel capacity. I still need that 360-400mile range depending on elevation. And we are cooking with money!
I had a ST100 that was hot as hell on my legs, great bike lots of Tupperware...
@@Bud_51 Did you mean ST1100?
@@OneStepBeyondu yes
I laughed my way through this whole thing. I have two of these now, used to have two others, and I'm buying one soon. Half the list!
agree, have a busa and a 1200GS. made me laugh also!
Staring at 4 on this list right now in my garage - near same as you and still smile looking at each one - hunting for one other on the list . I got 4 bikes for the price of 1 . That’s wisdom of being mature I guess
However, you can tell it's an American list. European one would be a bit different with GS as number one, number two and the number three.
Also, the bikes not mentioned here but strong in Europe are GSF, Transalp, TDM and Fat Boy
I'm a young guy who rides a BMW GS, and I love it. I actually think its a very underrated bike for younger folks because it embodies the do everything life style that many young people live. I commute it daily, and its great because its an ultra comfortable commuter, that I can do light off roading, and some twisty roads on. I am a young guy, and I can not afford 2 bikes, so I need something that will do it all, and the GS just does. The reason I chose a GS over other adv bikes is because I am a very tall, and large man, and feel cramped on many bikes, so I wanted a full sized adv, but most of the other offerings are too expensive; the GS has been around so long that they are actually surprisingly cheap for a higher mileage used example. For anyone curious why someone under 25 might buy a GS, I hope this gives you an answer.
75 now. Ugh, (but still immature). Your insights are hilarious and spot on. Love them. You clearly know motorcycles, motorcycling and the people who ride them. Believe you inadvertently forgot the V-Strom- specifically, the wee-storm and its cult following. I am still working on finding my finishing bike. Keep up the good work!
Yeah, a lot of older riders like the Vstrom650. Decent at most everything, and not fast enough to get you killed in a week - though definitely fast enough to get you killed someday.
Expected to see the Kawasaki C14 Concours on this list. Pretty much interchangable with the FJR1300 (one of which I own).
Better not interchangeable
Hey I’m 27 on my second Connie 🤣 it doesn’t belong (bought both of mine off retired fellows)
I've had three of them 08/09/11 top heavy bikes but loads of fun...
I'm 19 and my second bike is the 1150 GS Adventure with all the accessories, and I'm absolutely loving it!
@YammieNoob He's here!! 😜JK. I'm kind of the other way around. I got my license at 30 and got a naked 4cyl Honda Hornet. Yes, I miss my twenties... but I love that screaming engine!
@@attilacooper5837 dude, a 600 Hornet was my first bike!
@@attilacooper5837 I'm 31 and my msf course is in 2 weeks, basically never ridden a motorcycle.
Going back and forth between a sv650, an old monster 796, xsr700,
Cb650r, or a triumph trident 660.
Depending on what I can find around me haha.
May also end up with a 400 size, but I'm a cautious person so I'm pretty in it.
How do you like the hornet, ive looked at it a lot too.
Great touring bike, love the engine and I have to admit I have spent a ton of hours offroad on mine having a ton of fun. . . The GS confuses people. It is as he says, but so much more. . .
@@somedude9378 600 hornet was my second bike after a ninja 500. First time I actually opened it up I was heading to the liquor store to buy a 6 pack and I was shaking from all the adrenaline when I gave the cashier my money. I probably looked like an alcoholic lol.
58 year old rider here.
Bought my first V-max 1200 way back when they first came out in 1985-86.
Had a short squid period riding Interceptors, Ninjas and Gsxr's around the late 80's to early 90's.
Still riding my 2001 V-max 1200 and can't imagine riding any other bike.
I had two of those Vmax's a 1985 and a 1987. the 85 was faster. They handled like shit in the curves at speed but I still liked them.
Bro, I'm 56 and own a 1985 and 1994 Vmax 1st gen. Also have a 2014 cb1100f. It's not how fast you go, it's how long you can go fast.
I had a 90' Vmax from 2000-2009 and I had plenty of fun rides on her. I sold her with 50K and got a Warrior. Still think I'll get another Vmax one day, maybe a 2005 anniversary model.
Got my 95 Vmax at 51. Still got her at 65. I can't see myself with another, feels like I'd be cheating on her.
This mature rider rides a '14 Monster 1200s (red). It's my daily commuter across one bridge in the SF Bay Area. Absolutely love this bike. It's a little wide, sometimes, for lane splitting but it turns a 60 - 90 minute commute into 30 minutes on average. The HOV discounted bridge toll is also a plus.
I'm an old HD evolution engine rider, but still have a 2001 Honda st 1100. Carburated v4 that doesn't red line till 8k. The bike flies and can do it all day. Can't make myself get ride of it. It's worth more to me than what it's worth to ever sell.
Hi Yammie, I had an R1200gs at age 21. A Goldwing GL1800 at 27. Then a R1200GSA at 29. Now have an interceptor 650 at 33. I’ve had R6s ,Ninjas 600, Fazer 1000 and more in between. I wish I could have kept them all. But I’ve learned that the best bike in the world is the one you’re riding. So it doesn’t really matter 😊
I can only speak from my experience as riding is so personal to anyone riding on 2 wheels, regardless of age. 64 years old, started riding QA50's and SL70's in the desert north of Reno. Bottom line, as other older riders have commented, comfort has a huge portion of the decision making at this age. I get on my '86 K75S, and after an hour everything aches except for my smile. Get on my RT, and I can literally ride all day without too much discomfort. Love your videos, and there is no substitute for horsepower until the years start creeping up to match the horsepower specs on the bike!
I'm 29 and have both the K1600GT and an R1250GS Adventure as my second and third bikes. The refinement and sound of the 6 cylinder makes for a great riding experience. The 1250 boxer is so torquey and entertaining to ride. I like to go camping with the bikes and the usability of these bikes is hard to beat.
Riding any bike older than when you first got your licence, marks you out as a mature rider... Born in '68, full licence in '83, now riding a GPZ 750... and lovin' it... It's about the bikes we dreamed of... Those aspirational bikes are not as cutting edge as they once were, but nostalgia counts when your 55 and your back, knees and wrists, can't cut it anymore... Live Right, Ride Free....
I’ve been riding motorcycles since I was 14 and I’m now 56. Out of all the motorcycles I’ve ever ridden there was only one that I literally could not wait to get off of and that was the Suzuki Hayabusa. At the time I was driving a 2008 Versys 650 and swapped out with my friend’s Hayabusa. I lliterally drove the Hayabusa about 2 miles, and could not wait to get off of that pig fast enough. It felt like going from a jet ski to driving a cruise ship. That’s the only bike I’ve ever driven that I never want to drive again.
BTW you forgot the most important bike of them all and the one that I’ve kept coming back to….my one and only KLR 650
I own an '09 Yam FJR1300AE and I love it. I am aged 71. For long rides I've found nothing better. It east miles in comfort and speed in all kinds of weather. That said, my 2nd bike is a '13 Suzuki Burgman 650, the largest "scooter" made, and I ride it more than I ride my FJR. The Burg is MORE comfortable, does 80 on the highway, with gear, loaded and still has passing revs, and is easier to handle than the FJR.
I'm 62 have the same bikes, Burgman 650 and FJR 1300 plus a vstar 950, and 2 other scooters, got to have variety, like women ❤😂😂😂
My Ninja 1000 was for sale used at a dealer for $9,500. The dealer had 8 younger riders try to buy the bike, and they could not get approved for the loan. They sold it to me for $8500 cash for a 3 year old bike with 2,000 miles. They had to fight off another Ninja 650 rider wanting to upgrade while I was purchasing the bike. I am upper 40's, but not that experienced (12kmiles in 2 years)...but I had to have the scream of an inline 4, so you got it right.
Great bike… careful when and where you point it while twisting the throttle! Ride Safe!
I like this style of video much better than the other yammi videos with the random clips in it. I honestly had to stop watching but I can do this any day! Thanks yammi
You mixed up the road king and road glide, understandable. However, they now come with either the 114 or 117 Milwaukee 8 engine. Much bigger and more powerful than the 103.
I've been riding since I was 16 and I found my ideal bike at 38. It was a low mileage 1978 Triumph T140V Bonneville 750, and I still have it 30 years later, so I think I count as a mature rider. I still love riding it, the sound and the feel of it, and will keep it as long as I'm capable of kickstarting it (starts first kick). A couple of years ago, after I retired, I added a 1980 Suzuki GS550L to use as a winter bike (weather not too severe here in southern England, but loads of salt on the roads at this time of year). I'm not keen on modern bikes, too much complication (and expense). I prefer the simplicity of air cooling, carburettors and kick starters (even the GS550 has a kickstarter as back up for the electric start). Both of them together weigh less than one Road King, so they are easy to handle.
Mature rider here, 64. Been riding sine I was 12. Enjoyed your video. Have a few bikes on your list - FJR13ES, K16GT, & R1259GSA. I must be a tweener cause I also have a 1290 Super Duke, R1, and a GenII VMax. Still play in the dirt as well - 690R, 500EXC, & 300XCW when I'm really in a dirty mood.
What about the Concours ZG1400GTR? It should be here for sure.
37 years old now, been riding for 18 years and i settled on the Kawasaki Z900rs. Maybe i’m a modern retro hipster but i feel like bike gives me everything i would need.
I’m 45 and only been riding for a year, but an FJR1300 and a Goldwing are both on my radar once I’ve been riding for a decade.
The police in my state in Australia ride FJR1300’s as they do in most our states and they look awesome
Get an FJR. You will not regret it.
If u only been riding for 1 year do not get an fjr1300 it will kill u
At 71 I’ve been riding for over 50. years. I have a Honda NC700X DCT and a Suzuki Burgman 650. No shifter on either one.
VFR 800 would also be worthy of this kind of list i think
Basically all of the BMW R1200 K1200 / 1300 family too!
I been riding since 1973 started with a Honda Z50, then 125 and 250. In 1983 went to street bikes with a Honda CB900C custom. I have always had a some type of bike since. I am 58 years old and just purchased a 2022 Triumph T120 1200cc Bonneville. I love this bike it reminds me of the old bike we use to ride, but it also rides great.
DR650 ..you're spot-on. I commute 200mi/wk on it and can still play off road. I've put enough money into jetting, opening up the airbox and piping it, that I could've bought a KTM ..Unlike the KTM, it won't leave me stranded.
30 year old fully kitted out BMW GSA 1250 2022. 4th bike, Ninja 250 > Ninja 300 > Indian Scout Bobber > GSA. I live down the road in San Antonio if you want to interview lol
I'm an older rider and here in merrie old England there is a definite trend towards smaller displacement bikes for us oldsters. Royal Enfield have sold a LOT of 350s!!! I love trundling round on my Classic 350. Still got my Dad bike Triumph Trophy 1215 though, for those long two up tours. And an XR400. And a VFR750. Got to love a NACA duct. Oh, and a Dorsoduro 750 for the odd hooligan day out. My finisher bike will be the ultimate Dad brand, a Guzzi. But I have a feeling the 350 will be the one I'm riding in my 90s 😎
Guilty! I'm in my early 40's and JUST picked up a DR650 as my 3rd bike.....and I love it!
I had this family across the street from my childhood home back in the early 80's. He had some 400cc UJM and then moved up to a 750. Hadn't seen him for years and a year ago he became a Facebook friend. He is now 80 and is riding a Goldwing Trike in NC. It seemed that after the 750 he moved onto Goldwings and belonged to Goldwing specific clubs in NJ and NC for at least the last 30 years. Well one day on FB he commented on something I wrote and my aunt commented on his comment. She too lives down south and was curious how they knew each other. Turns out they both belonged to the same Goldwing club in NJ. Now here is the kicker. My aunt was put up for adoption when she was 3. Maybe back in 1951. My mom (the oldest of 6) passed in 1989 and hadn't seen here sister since the adoption. We found my aunt and her twin brother only a couple of years ago, and for a time they were only minutes apart and didn't know it.
So he was your uncle and lived across the street from you back in the days right?
@@CB500Xoo7 I wish. Just that the guy across the street was friends with my aunt via a motorcycle club. My aunt was put up for adoption in 1948ish. This guy lived across the street from us in the early '80s. My mom pasted in 1989. We found my aunt only four years ago.
@@raddrider4466 ah ok. What a small world. Sorry for your loss and happy that you got to meet your aunt. That’s pretty cool. I’ve got a brother somewhere in Germany but thus far unable to track him down.
Yammie, this vid is hilarious. I’ve been a rr rider for years & about to order the 2023 CBR500r. Been on bikes ever since I could. Had a 250r for 4 years & absolutely loved it. Only complaint was it’s lack of power.
I am in your target age group. i ride a GSX1250FA (A fully faired Bandit). Probably a bit old to mention on the clip, but it is the spiritual father of the GSX1000GT. Love it to bits, torque all day, good at touring, all day rides and the twisties.
I’m the old dude you are speaking of. Fifty one years of making mistakes and a few good decisions here and there. Totally recently bought a BMW R 1200RT and freaking love it. Not ashamed. Easy maintenance. It heats my hands and my butt. Massive TORKS. Previous bikes were Honda Interceptor, GSXR 750 and a Ducati 900 SS. You nailed it!!
I’m 40 and absolutely love my BMW K1200 GT . I just got back into riding last year after a 20 year hiatus 😂
I am a retired GSXR rider, had three. As far as sport bikes my heart is with the GSXR. I am tall and needed the extra frame length. But now I ride a Multistrada 1200 and MAN what a great bike. Fun for spirited rides but comfy enough for all day rides with ample room for storage of drinks, snacks, clothes etc. My crew and I pack up the bikes and ride the most rural parts of NH that we can find and have a friggin blast. I have lived in NH for more than 30 years and still am riding thru towns that I never knew existed lol. When the time comes and if I can I will definitely buy another Ducati!!!
What about the reliability ?
I can honestly say that I haven't had a single problem as of yet@@konliner9286
You nailed it. I have a dr650 in my shed, my dad has a fj1300, I’ve been riding a bmw k1300 for the last 10 years (and it shits in hayabusers). I’m 49,been riding dirt bikes for 33 years and I’m about to by a new r1250gs. Love your work.
I’m thinking about stepping up to the K1300 I have a 2003 K1200 GT and it’s a fun bike and keeps me happy for now haha
I'm 74. -Started riding when I went away to college since my parents were a solid no for me to go riding out from their home with a gas tank between my legs. I've looked at most of these bikes with considerable interest but with each new purchase I defer to power-to-weight-to-dollar spent when the time comes to pull the trigger. -Current immature granddad bikes: MT-10 and Husky 701 SM.
you have good taste, and like to have fun ...
Respect to the Huski😎
The Road King you have in the picture is a 2017 to current Milwaukee Eight 107 as it clearly says on the air cleaner.
You're rattling off stats for the older twin cam.can.
Also at 4:50.
What batwing fairing are you talking about?
I’m 35 and was actually looking at the 1250 gs as my 2nd bike for touring and hit some dirt trails nothing too off-road but CO has a lot of gravel and dirt roads
I am 57 and have been riding for almost 35 years and own a 1974 CB360 T a Suzuki Bandit 1250s a Honda blackbird, a Honda vtx 1800 and a VFR 1200 X and aYamaha VMax 1700 ,I am currently restoring a 1978 CD 200 and a Yamaha fj 1200 . You are spot on in your selection but I think as time goes on you realise what works best almost always .
I’ve had eK1600GT and currently ride a 1250GSA. The GSA is way more comfortable for multi state trips. I’ll be 57 next month. Still not mature 😮
Man call me odd, I am 57 and started on the street on a RZ350. Fourteen bikes later I grew up to a Tuono 1000. and now I am on a Tuono 660. I am looking forward to the release of the Kawasaki 400r inline four. Maybe looking fondly at the years I rode my 1989 CB1 400 for 80,000 miles. After 35 years I have found bigger is not better, maybe the technology has caught up to some of us old guys.
Once I’m older, I think I’ll settle on a Z900RS. They seem comfy yet fast and fun
I'm 56. Love my Z900RS. Comfy, fast, fun. And a fantastic symphony of sounds as you ride, fast or slow.
I'm 63 and love mine. I'd say an almost perfect bike for riders 'of a certain age'
@@sjk8273 I’m happy to see some more mature riders attest to its comfort and fun factor! I’ve always loved how they look
You forgot to mention Kawasaki concous and BMW k1200 LT which I owned I also have BMW R1100 RT very smooth bikes to Ride
57 Y/O rider, loved this video!!! My stable, BMW K1600GTL (yes had a FJ1300), Ducati ST3s, and Husqvarna 701(never a DR). Your take on each bike was pretty spot on! Obviously there are exceptions, but I worked in M/C for 15 years and found it hard to argue with almost all of what you had to say! Keep up the great work! I really enjoy your channel!
I’ve had 2 FJRs and at age 56 graduated to a BMW R1200RT. I plan to ride this until I can’t balance, see well or fit into my gear.
Then I’ll get a Goldwing.
The Rocket III would deserve an honourable mention.
I'm a 60+ rider and my 2006 FJR1300-AE (no clutch, paddle shift) is superb. Yammie will be riding an FJR in the future. The shaft drive is smooth as melted butter and rarely needs service.
Me too. I've had a range of bikes and keep coming back to the FJR.. This is my 4th and my second AE.
Friend of mine (F32) got her license last year and her first bike was a BMW 1250. But I don’t think it counts since she bought it from her dad😂😂
How about a Yamaha FZ1! It's decently comfortable with it's upright riding position. It's super fun and powerful ! Can easily mask as a touring bike! You must see a bunch of old guys riding a first or second gen FZ1!
Pretty damned accurate...I'm 47 have a dr650 with modified suspension as the factory bits just plain suck. I primarily use it offroad, but it isn't my primary bike. I think a honorable mention for the list, Gen 2 Yamaha VMAX. I have never seen anyone under 40 have one. 1 because it is a powerful bike that can get away from an inexperienced rider very quickly and new they are, or were as Yamaha discontinued production, very expensive.
on my 50th I sold my busa and bought A Honda VTX 1800c and this is my last bike and i love it its a narly , powerful and A riders bike and you really have to be A mature rider to respect this beast.
No! I can't believe he didn't mention Z900rs Cafe.. Its a senior citizens moped! Lol I own one, its fantastic daily machine
32 here. First bike purchased last month (12/2022). 2013 ninja 1000. More sport tour-ey than supersport. All the torques all the time. 91 in 1st gear if I feel the need to squid. Great all around bike. If you're afraid of throttle control or a baby squid, definitely dont recommend starting on it, especially with its 503lb wet weight.
V-stroms and klrs are pretty popular with us old guys too. The new ones are pretty nice.
I don’t know about klrs but V Stroms absolutely.
Soon to be 51, have been riding since 1992. bought a Ducati 999 this summer, yeah my back, knees, arms, ankles, hands hurts like hell after a couple of hours in the seat, but the smile on my face is all the pain worth.
Stay safe fellow riders.
I could have sworn the V-Strom would be on that list. -signed, a 46 y/o V-Strom owner.
I’m 25, bought v-storm as a first bike, don’t wanna sell after buying second one and I’m happy that it’s not on that list XD
@marcintumulski5825 I bought my first V-Strom at 38 so you are way ahead of me. Keep the rubber side down. 🏍
Likewise dl1000 at 54
51 yrs old/young (riding since childhood) love your list and caught myself appreciating these type bikes more in the last 2 or so years...own a crf 450x for lighter off road (use to be 2 strokes only) BMW k1300s for comfortable flying with luggage and a BMW R1200r naked for town and traffic...I also hated the boxer motor when I was 35 ...now I just love the way it makes power ....wishing everyone a safe ride...😉
Here a 29 Year Old Guy with a 2011 R1200GS and it is my second bike!
First bike was Virago 535!
😂😂😂😂
Love your videos !
Greetings from Portugal! 🇵🇹
Really loved the background work.
I'm 76 now and on a year old SuperDuke. My youngest son has a Road Glide and he's a natural with a motorcycle and makes that bike move much like mine. I only envy him when we're on large freeways or interstate roads where he moves around with such comfort while additionally having his amazing road skills.
I started out late in life to bicycling and loved it. Motorcycling was an embellishment of the good of bicycling plus the feeling of flying. That's why it's just bar-end folding mirrors and a tail tidy today so I can maintain that ghostly idea of moving at speed through the environment . . . that and a reminder of my teenage power and athleticism. The wind rarely is even a thought although there would be on occasion an appreciation for an invisible bubble of protection from the elements.
So, your essay does cut at the predictability that can come with age and income. Me throwing up my, "We'll I avoided all this. I'm special. I'm what you might imagine yourself to be as a rider at my age." has a note of smug and posing.
I did see an Instagram reel from a young lady decked out in leathers on a 600 commenting on how an older guy in the video just came up to her and said he rides/owns a SuperDuke. I can see that - wanting to be part of youth and beauty - sharing for a bone of acknowledgment to be returned.
But I know I'm not alone for I've seen a number of snow caps or baldies like myself on sporty rides removing their helmets and looking serious and fit . . . confident. It is a way: choosing a motorcycle that is consistent with one's personal values that go logically back to that first taste of freedom of movement and territorial access experienced with our first 10 speed bicycle (12 speed as is now common and still in my possession). I can see that and maybe you can too.
So, let me start by telling you how much I enjoy channel. Now, I notice that you totally blew off Triumph! I'm 55, and I've spent the last few years riding a T120 Bonneville Black around. I got lots of love and respect for doing so. Now, I traded that in for a Tiger 660 Sport. I love the Tiger, it's light, has a fair amount of power, for sane people, and the only drawback is that it's a little tall. The tallness is necessary, it's a really nice little road bike, up until about 100 mph. I commute on it (too often), and take it out to the country, and ride on weekends. It does keep up on the interstates, but not my fave place to ride. So, Daytona Dude, please go ride a Tiger 660, and tell us all what you think! People need to know how much fun that bike is, and it's just Dandy for Geezers like me, that have ridden since back in the UJM days. Do it. 🙂
This whole "getting older" thing is absolutely hilarious. Young, naive Yammie Noob is talking about a 45-year-old's "finisher" bike, LOL!!!! It's really not that bad, Yammie! I don't feel old. Would I want my 30-year-old body back? Yeah, but only because it looked better ;). My 30-year-old brain? No way! Everybody ages differently, though. One of my students in class today was just a year older than me, and he was old! Could barely swing his leg over the seat and a bit of a "know-it-all" attitude. Me: 62, 2005 Kawasaki ZZR 1200, carbureted, never any problems, more comfortable than a ZX-10R, better handling and performance than an FJR 1300, a little heavy at 600 lbs wet, 6.1-Gal tank. Take it on a trip, take it to the track just for fun. 0-60 in 2.6 sec with a skilled rider (tested in MOTORRAD magazine #22/2002). Total sleeper. Have been eyeing the H2 SX SE, though. But my "finisher" bike probably hasn't been designed yet.
I had one. Toured Europe on it. Did track days on it. It was a blast. But I prefer my Honda CBF1000FA.
A more mature rider in his early 70s here who went from the Yamaha FJR (that my wife and I loved) to a Harley Davidson Tri-Glide a couple years ago. The Tri-Glide has extended our riding lives for many years to come and we are grateful for that. The trike community is growing in our region as the riding population continues to age. Three wheels now provides a new level of confidence and comfort on the road and made our touring adventures even more enjoyable but at a higher cost. So I would give the Tri-Glide an honorable mention as a "motorcycle" for your most mature riders only.
I'm 67 now. I've had Dirt bikes (first was an Ossa), Rice Rockets & everything in between. I have no clue as to why you "Hate" the BMR R engine. I got a1983 R100RT from my buddy who had bought it brandy-dandy. 2 years ago I sold it at 208,000 miles and someone else is riding it now. It has never been apart & only required Gas, Oil, Tires, a couple of Batteries & Spark Plugs & Light Bulbs. The Valves are soooooo easy to adjust. No bike disassembly or tank removal. I picked up a 1999 BMW R1100R with 34k on the clock for a steal. It's a naked bike as I no longer do distance touring, but I'm fully confident I could take it to Alaska & back from Connecticut without issue. It's chipped so delivers about 100 Hp and (tested twice) does 0-60 in barely over 3 seconds. At only 518# it's excellent in the twisties and my neighbors never hear me coming or going. Not as comfortable as (but close to) the R100RT or my all-time favorite I got when I was 21, the Suzuki GT 750 (Water Buffalo) which I could ride forever & year round in total comfort. I think you underestimate how many "Old" guys go for the Beemer R with it's unmatched longevity, reliability & no stinking chain. I see plenty every day. Barely ever see the bikes you mentioned, except the Harleys (swarms of them) and the Gold Wings. Being only 160#, those are too annoyingly heavy for me, and they don't handle, perform or brake. P.S. The BMW Ks suck. All of them. I rode a 1200. Total dog. Felt like a wheelbarrow. I had better performance from my '73 Honda CB 350 twin.
I suspect I fall under Yammie's "mature" rider category at 43 years old and about 22 years of riding. I am actually about to pick up a Honda VFR1200F and also have an Indian FTR 1200S and an Indian Challenger.
I won't say I didn't consider an FJR, though. lol........
good job! Need to include the Honda ST 1300
That’s funny. I’m mid 40’s, been riding 25+ years and own 2 of the bikes on this list. I’d say you nailed it. 👍🏼
The Busa, the ZX-14r, and K1300S are pretty much sportbikes/sport touring bikes for mature riders.
Hell, I bought my ZX-11 from an 82 year old man who rode it to deliver it.
57 years old, 35 as a rider. Honda 919 (main bike), KLR 650 (gravel and mild dirt) and a 1985 Nighthawk S (resto project). Those cover my needs for now.
I am restoring the 1983 Nighthawk 650sc. Shaft drive is wonderful!
I think the one thing you got wrong about the dr650 is it is not about how exciting a motorcycle is. The KTM might be slightly better but if the dr650 is 98% there and will run for 100k+ miles where the ktm might be in the salvage yard before 15k. These older guys just don't care and want to ride and not work on there bike anymore.
Don't forget the VMAX1700. Gotta have a beast paired with the 'Wing in the stable.
I’m about to hit 70 years old this year. Owned 3 bikes. 1976 Kaw 900 LTD, Kaw 1000 ST and a Kaw 1000 Ninja. I stick with a brand that never breaks no matter how hard you ride it. Currently have 74,000 miles on the Ninja. It does everything well. With the Akro exhaust and intake howl it’s always ready for more!
The Road King Does not have a Batwing Fairing! It has an optional detachable windshield.
Great video. Loving my FJR1300. Spec is off. “Mature and experienced” 68yo here and had a good laugh at myself as I watched this. Today my dreams have caught up to me. Sold the 03 R6 last year when I retired, and looked for my next bike. Not my dream bike to kill the world or make a statement, but rather a performance bike that will help me experience the world. This statement doesn’t sell alot of bikes but it is a reality. Thanks for making room in the lineup of killer bikes, for a back to basics riding machine. I have moved from “riding a means to an end”, to “riding the dream”.
The weight is 650 lbs wet with bags. Without 630 lbs. The torque on the gen 3 2014 is 101 ft lbs at crank. :-)
You're right! I bought my 1200GS when I was 45 yo. But now I enjoy more my SV650.
So... I am the person who is 21 years old, and bought a GS1250 as my third motorcycle! 🤣😂
I bought it because I got married early, and my wife loves to ride with me, she is always on my back traveling, we live in Brazil and before the GS, we had the Ninja 400 and the MT07, and we traveled over 9K miles in Brazil, and being honest , it was not comfortable at all. So we decided to buy a new GS and enjoy more together. It is not fully equipped, because I use as my daily too, but I have backpacks that are easily removable.
At the age of 57 i am the guy that rode sport bikes while i was young so i have ridden the Honda ST1300 and this year i have replaced it this year with the Suzuki gsx s1000gt. Its 200 lbs lighter and am enjoying this bike. I comute to work and the bags do a great job holding my computer and my lunch. Highly recommend it for any old sport bike rider. I enjoy your vids. And oh yeah i am lucky enough to be able to have several bike so my cruiser is an Indian Chieftain elete...so many bikes out there
I’m 26 and in December of 22 got my second bike, 02 Goldwing!
Started on a 98 Suzuki savage and it was a hell of a perspective shift
After spending many hours pouring over specs and videos I determined that the DRZ400 was the ideal dual purpose bike. Being 64 years old, 5 ft 4 in short, and owning over 30 bikes, I must confess I own a DR650 which I picked over the winter on paper DRZ400, and over the KLR 650 which I sold. And while we're at it I might as well confess that my other favorite dual purpose bike is a TW200. 🥴
61 with gen 2 Busa with RCC Turbo stage 1 kit , great daily rider with no problem keeping up with traffic,
"with no problem keeping up with traffic" -no shit? 😂 A klr650 has no problems keeping up with traffic.
Just turned 69 yo. I have a 2010 Triumph Rocket III Touring. I remapped the ECU to eliminate the factory restrictions, added a ram-air filter and got rid of the cat pipes. Just can't let it go even though it's getting a bit heavy. The 2nd bike I bought was a brand new 1978 Honda CB 750K. Loved it, but now I will not get anything with spokes or a chain. Just don't want to mess with those. I'll probably downsize in the next 5 years or so. I'll see what's out there then.
Sorry Yam, but your Road King bit got me. The Road King is like the entry-level touring bike from Harley. You then get into all the Road Glide and Street Glide variants. And they haven't made the 103 since 2016. Bikes in your listed price range will be M8 engines, that start at 107ci and range up to the SE 131ci. All of which make more power than the 103 (from 80hp/100 lb/ft to 120hp/130 lb/ft, all at the wheel). I know those aren't super impressive numbers (I came from sportbikes, like a lot of non-boomer Harley owners) but people are usually misinformed that HD's are super low powered pigs. The cool thing is, they're very similar to old big block v8's. A simple cam swap and tune, and you can easily add 40% more power and still get 40 mpg for the next 40k+ miles.
I owned a 2017.5 1200GS as my second bike at 30 years old. Bought it to put the wife on the back (classic mistake) and for low depreciation. She decided she didn't want to ride, so after 1 year I sold it to a recent retiree for more than I paid for it and picked up a Z900RS cafe.
At 64 i still prefer my 2004 fzed 6..love that screaming 4..second gear is all i need to make me happy
Notable mention for “Sportier” dad bikes are the Honda VFR800 5th gen to 8th gen. The Suzuki GSF1250fa (bandit with fairing), the Triumph Sprint series, the Triumph Rocket, Indian Scouts. Kawasaki Z800, Z900 & Z1000 with handle bars not clip ons. I’m 36 and I have Suzuki SV1000s and no one ever seems to know what that even is😂
74 yo here. The Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Classic LT woohoo! Beautiful retro classic styling. A very comfortable inexpensive extremely reliable lighter weight cruiser (at about 625 lbs) Agile enough and light enough for effortless city driving. And this bike will go 65 happily all day long. Very low center of gravity and seat position, about 27inches as I recall. The LT trim includes a windscreen and studded seat with passenger back rest. I love this bike!
You might need to give me a call.
I am 27 and bought a 07' R1200GS @ 95k for my second "street bike", after a 18' Grom. I have put 15k on the bike in the last 3 months, now touching 110k.
It is a fully kitted ready to rally rig.
I've ridden MX almost my entire life for preface, but only decided to start riding on road in 2021.
48YO here, I had a 2018 Ninja 1000 (Z1000SX in the UK) for about a year - hated the riding position! Sold it and bought a ZZR1400. MUCH happier!!! 👍
I have to comment! I actually know a 26 year old girl who owns a BMW R1200 GS. She takes it offroad, sometimes with her father who rides a 1100 GS and a Honda 600 Transalp.
The girl was a car fanatic, tuning and styling her own car. I often found her at car meetings or at work when she came to visit her dad who was my colleague. She has outgrown cars, the 1200 GS is her second bike and on it she is a free spirit.
56 years old, 2013 KTM SXF350, 2016 Victory Vegas 8 ball 106, 2022 Harley street glide ST
Always safe, geared up and always riding like I stole it. Awesome channel. Appreciate it!