@@cocofilms5524 sound reasoning. We would still have sci fi space dramas that have nothing to do with "Star Trek" after all. I just imagine some seriously freaked out elitist from the 24th century saying, "Oh my God! Oh my God!" as he tries to flee the scene 😂🤣😂
I found it kind of funny since Star Trek exists as our future so that means that Star Wars exists in Star Trek as a work of fiction so I wonder if they watched it on movie nights on Archer’s Enterprise. Lol
Wait a light-minute... was this why the class was dicontinued? - Because the pointy ears don't like it when u mix up distance and time (or make it seem so)?
It being called the "Falcata Class" is also inspired (the Falcata was a type of sword, which fits the role as a weapon ship, AND the term derivates from Latin "falcatus", meaning literally "falcon-shaped").
Hot take: the Star Wars franchise exists in Star Treks Future, and some future SW nerds actually build starships to look like sw ships. Imagine a reenactment group :D
Star Wars is actually the result of time travellers from Star Trek's Temporal Cold War, who all travelled back in time to a galaxy far, far away to defeat one another
It's looks like this Falcatta Class could also be a two vector vessel as it's own independent deep space operation ship. But with a modern, NX-02 neck, additional warp nacelles and engineering/crew sections. Now in this lower cost configuration, the Falcatta can detach from its lower hull and act as a stealth ship while it's lower engineering hull can either be hidden safely, or flown elsewhere fulfilling an additional mission. The Falcatta would magnetically be bound to a sort of landing pad which is attached to the characteristic "neck" found in the larger Starfleet ships.
This design and concept is really great! It not only just gives detail to a blurry ship, but it adds to the narrative of the Star Trek universe. Having said that... It's the Falcon. And Han and Chewie are flying it.
@OriginalTharios honestly it may be as cannon as star trek online is so idk lol at this point star trek cannon outside of the show(although even discovery is causing issues( I like the show it just causes issues with cannon) basically star trek cannon is like the zelda timeline lol)
After the Battle for Sector 001, Commander Steve Stark proposed an off shoot design as a way to save the overall project. A Falcota was built with the phaser dishes retasked as sensor and communications arrays and designated as a long range communications repeater and reconnaissance vessel.
You should really analyze the unidentified mon calamari ships from the canon Star Wars comic. The designs are really interesting and I’d love to see your take on them!
I know a lot of people (Who are wrong) dislike the Yeager class, but the concept and lore behind it fascinates me. I'd love to see you assemble, from whatever spare parts you'd like, your own Dominion War stop-gap combat vessels. Thanks for this video, never noticed the Falcon in the background but it got us two absolutely amazing ships out of it. The Falcata class looks like a much more sleek, refined, dare I say beautiful take on the Defiant and Saber classes of ships, and the Falconer was an unexpected treat, like desert after a fine meal.
I've seen the Curry Class explained as a carrier variant of the Excelsior made using Miranda nacelles, and the repositioning of the secondary hull gives the ship a shorter profile, making it harder to hit.
"Chewie, eject warp core!" *Growl* "I know we have a goddamm borgcube on our heels, but that won't matter if we blow into pieces in less then a minute." *Howl, whine*
If Solo would have stuck closer with the existing backstory of Han rescuing Chewie from the Trandoshian enslavers, there would have had a perfect opportunity amidst all those Trandoshians (Bossk people) to place a Gorn in the background.
This is some hardcore, well thought out fanfic right here, well done! Completely believable within universe and sticks to the old thinkers in Starfleet vs. those new visionaries brought to the front by the threat of the Borg.
Flawless... Absolutely flawless. If I had money I would definitely support on Patreon... This is the kind of content I desire! Theoretical designs based on "forgotten" background vessels.
Rumor has it one of the background ships flying past the windows in some scenes on coruscant in Star Wars Episode 1 is the Enterprise-E, I have looked closely and never seen it, think it's an urban legend
an additional flavor thing for the falconer/falcata combo is that a falconor can make use of phasers that would normally not have an optimal firing angle
It's fairly common knowledge that both the Serenity from Firefly and Original Series Enterprise appear in the 2004 Battlestar Galactica mini-series. We see the Serenity when Roslin is receiving her initial cancer diagnosis and the Enterprise appears later in the background of the civilian fleet, probably because of Ronald D. Moore's connection to the Star Trek franchise. Could you do these those two ships, but redesign them to fit the BSG universe? Otherwise I like the design here. Another variant could have been a torpedo boat with the central dish area instead being torpedo storage and the mandibles being where the launchers are housed. Like the original design for the Defiant in the Deep Space Nine Technical Manual that later became the Nova-class science ship. A high-warp, torpedo heavy combatant meant for hit and fade attacks.
Seconded, here! I'd love to see a series of this. If/when you run out of 'canon' on-screen material, maybe just transplant something iconic from one universe to another and attempt to "make it stick?"
BSG has at least three ships from Firefly (a second one which is similar to Serenity in fact) and one from Star Wars (and Firefly), plus Kodiak from Command and Conquer, and Sulaco from Aliens...so their canon style sorta encompasses all those universes already. Except Star Trek of course. :D
I was thinking the other way, of the central section actually being a giant big ass super mega kingu reactor like the orbital defense platforms around Cardassia or Babylon5 Earth, but with a pair of generic warp engines wrapped around it so it can at least zip from one end of a solar system to the other to meet threats head on. I remember somewhere about how generators and reactors in Star Trek actually being more powerful than pretty much most star ships.
@@andymac4883 There is also the lesser-known Mobquet-class transport, most likely remembered from the X-Wing pc games, landing in Shindig, spotted in the background towards the beginning of the episode.
I really appreciate the thought that went in to this concept and I love the designs of the ship that you came up with. I wish there was a way to make your idea cannon. That would be pretty cool.
I really like your render, I could be easaily convinced that this was a ship that was developed from the same line of thinking as the Pathfinder and Defiant line of ships; small, overpowered and able to fight ships many times their size. Love the back story you gave it as well, excellent stuff.
After the repeater was deemed outmoded by newer, more effective technology, Various hulls and pre-production units were stripped of their phaser-sink dishes and auctioned off to private parties , and the hull design was licensed out for a spec racing series. The now grossly over-engined and extremely lightweight spaceframes were decked out in various team liveries and raced by various teams in a sort of multi-system grand prix. Their large engines and extreme maneuverability made for entertaining racing across several systems, with the headline race being through the Sol system asteroid belt.
*question:* EC Henry, do you believe that the military version of the nebulon-b frigate is *physically capable* of holding 24 fighters like stated in legends reference material?
I guess it depends on how many attachment points it has and if they can attach to the sides and top of the spine as well as the bottom... Like if you wrapped the spine with A-wings it would probably fit 24 but who knows.
@@Ty-yt3lj if it's possible, then the entire forward swell of the frigate would have to be hangar space with fighters on moving racks and stacked vertically as well as along the entire floorspace. There could also be an elavator that runs up from the under-spire that brings fighters up from deep-storage.
The problem with Nebulon B is that its stats come from WEG game, something written by hacks who were not interested in game balance, and every single rebel ship was given absurd advantages over imperial one. See Y-wings, old, rusty bombers being actually faster and more agile than TIE Fighters (facepalm). The stat blocks also didn't match the ships at all (see 60 "batteries" of ISD instead of 8 heavy turrets it really has in the movies). They were also so bad at math they couldn't even be bothered to finish stat blocks and you often had "price - not available for sale" and "stat - unknown"...
It has been a LONG time since something new in Star Trek has made me deeply excited. And while this is ostensibly a fan work... still, it was really gratifying to feel so good about something in Trek I hadn't seen before. Thank you so much!
While I do like the design, I think the role is a little convoluted. Still, as it is the ship does also have value in it's ability to extend the firing arc of a much larger capital ship, letting it sit inside the shield of a larger capital ship and direct fire from weapons arrays that would otherwise be unable to fire at the target because of their orientation on the ship (Having good weapons coverage is extremely valuable, but if the enemy is directly in front of you then all those extra weapons aren't really doing anything at the moment.). Personally I think it would be better as essentially someone slapping engine nacelles on a galaxy class deflector array, a utility ship rather than a fighting one.
I have to agree on the convoluted nature of the role. I LOVED the design, but found myself shaking my head throughout the whole description. Honestly, at a glance it looks like a slightly lighter Defiant class, and I think it could excel in that role. The Defiant always struck me as intentionally being a brick with guns. Where most Starfleet ships have what I see as weak points in the nacelle and saucer mounts, the Defiant is more compact and defensively oriented. The Falcata could easily be Starfleet experimenting with similar designs. Maybe Falcata : Defiant :: Excelsior : Constitution, for example?
The only problem I have with that idea is that it has that it has that crazy huge dish in the middle, and it being a sort of light or proto-defiant is that it doesn't really make use of that very unusual feature for a federation ship. Buuut this is a star-trek vessel, so I'm sure that it can be technobabbled around.
@@kevingriffith6011 That dish in the middle could easily be used as a heavy phaser emitter, it would be the same power as the Defiant's phaser cannons, but more versitile.
Could be. I'm a little frustrated with people that focus on warp nacelles as tactical liabilities though. Even if it's true, it glosses over the many valid and varied reasons to design a ship that way even if it looks like a weakness in combat. (which it probably is). However, the vast majority of ships the federation has are not dedicated combat vessels. In that light given the likely benefits of distancing the nacelles from the main body of the ship, it also justifies why the defiant pulls them in close; Being a dedicated combat oriented design, it's willing to sacrifice performance (and arguably safety, given some of the stated reasons for nacelles being on pylons) to make them a less vulnerable target in a fight. You can see the same design reasoning as federation ships also showing up in Romulan (nacelles at the wingtips) and even klingon designs though (Vor'cha class with smaller pylons than a federation ship placed at the extremities of the ship) So, if even the Klingons accept a weak point in their warships, the upsides must be fairly significant.
STO-Player here. Specialized is Escorts (Destroyers). Thanks to this video, I want a Falcata-Class already -- Have my buddies shoot at me for that extra bang and make the scientists a litle more usefull while they're on Downtime (their weapons tend to be rather lame, but this way, they could contribute their own weapon outupt to enhace a Falc's DPS). Love the idea!
VERY nice storyline and theory for the Falcada class. One of my players in my Star Trek RPG game actually has a son who built a Star Trek version of the Falcon. This fits the bill perfectly. Nicely done!!
Hello. Cool! "Star Trek" and "Star Wars" are among my cups of tea. Thanks for sharing. Live long and prosper and may the Force be with you and yours. After all, without "Star Trek," "Star *Wars*" would have not existed.
Personally, I’d like to believe that the Palpatine’s [Seed Ships], what he sent out to conquer other galaxies with, was ‘Probing’ the Milky Way as inconspicuously as possible & such.
The Legendary Bill Cipher If you get bored there are 25 seasons across TNG, VOY, ENT and DS9, I’m not a fan of DIS, TOS or TAS, but there’s lots of content...
Great idea! Really impressed with the depth and scope of job concept. It reminded me of a conversation I had with a weapons engineer in a pub a few years ago. He told me, ‘we pay quite close attention to science fiction for new ideas’. Oh, and it’s ‘unfeasable’ not ‘infeasible’. I think.
Heck, I've never been that into Star Trek, yet I *love* this design! It's so unique and interesting I've never once thought "hey, what if we shoot our own ships for reasons *other* than boredom?", so the idea is, shall we say, most impressive?
1:56 And a Production Supervisor on Star Trek Disco cries out in terror as he is suddenly silenced... as you have a near perfect overlay of the Magee class
Auxiliary "Falcata" ship (or ships) deployed off the main ship seems more sensible. But I suppose that would basically evolve into a less versatile version of the whole Prometheus idea the "Falcata" is meant to replace.
I would have turned it into an automated gunning platform that changes its orientation and angle in relation to other ships engaged in combat. Having a crew on a ship you are planning to fire on sounds risky. What if the ship is damage and it fails to absorb the energy?
No wonder the Borg Cube explodes, Han&Chewie gives it a good pounding with the Quad Laser Cannons from the Falcon. Yieeeeehaaaaaa!!! Raaawwwwwrrr!!.... Or the Borg simple couldn´t handle with that "Force" of Weaponfire ;-) Or..the Borg Queen was "Forced" to evacuate the Cube. ;-) Captn Pun, signing off.
I'm sorry I missed this vid when you made it. As a fan of westerns as a kid, I had one immediate thought at first sight. The old western gatling gun. But instead of bullets it would launch a stream of photon torpedoes in rapid succession. The circular area in the middle is like a modern day drum magazine that just spits one after another torpedo out as long as you can remain on target.
Ya, no. Ya didn't sell me on the Falcata. It's just to ridiculous as an upjumped mirror. A better idea. would be to have a huge central capcitor of its own to power a few overpowered phaser arrays for a high alpha strike, then slip away into the shadows. Take the Deffiant's pulse phasers, stick them on an even smaller ship, but with oversized capacitors (relative) and send a few of those in at something. cheap, fast, and glass-cannon/10.
@aethertech I love the way you think. That's cool AF. But I still thinking Han and Chewie are in starfleet uniforms flying that ship with an Artoo aboard.
yeah I'm with you, my thought while watching was that it should have been wholly independent like an orbital defense platform with a giant big ass super-mega-kingu reactor/particle-cannon with generic warp engines to zip from one end of the star system to the other to meet threats head on. I remember from somewhere that reactors in Star Trek put out more power than most star ships do, so.
I think I just found my favorite TH-cam channel, I loved the model and the way you created a story. This is definitely the first of many videos that I will watch. The only thing I disagreed with the concept is that the question of designing a small ship is for it to be fast, maneuverable and difficult to hit so I think that the concept of the mother ship having to hit it would be counterproductive because if that is easy the enemy ship too will take advantage of these opportunities, perhaps if the shields channel the energy of the enemy ship to the deflectors and Falcata could use this energy to improve and supercharge the weapons the way you implied, but I loved the video Sorry for the "google translator" english.
The thing that always bothered me about the Prometheus... what happens if the middle section is destroyed in a fight? Also, I submit the name Ben Tussi class
Since i have not looked at 3d models of the Prometheus in a long time so this is only a guess. But I would like to think that the other two sections could still dock back up and gtfo. I would like to think they designed it in such a way that the top and bottom sections had at least a couple docking clamps.
Do the Crossfield. In my head, the Crossfield represents a proto Galaxy class; a large, modular starship capable of multiple missions but it didn't catch on because technology of the 23rd century wasn't up to the task of having a multimission ship of that size. I have an entire headcanon about it.
very interesting concept, but i have to compare that ship to a magnifying glass - you can get the magnifying glass to concentrate the suns rays but it cant produce any more energy than the sun would be outputting. furthering this analogy, the falcata class ship could redirect the phasers fired at it but wouldnt be able to give it any more power unless it came from the falcatas power source
In weapons it’s not strictly raw output. It’s that output over time and area. A bullet doesn’t carry much energy generally speaking but it applies it over a tiny area and over a brief amount of time. A basketball can conceivably hit you in the chest with the same force as a 9mm pistol round but we know the results won’t be the same.
@@DrewLSsix indeed true, thats why a bullet penetrates, because its applying that tremendous amount of energy on a small contact point... i jut went on to say its %100 feable to have the falcata class ship that absorbs and refires the phasers - i was just mentioning that phaser shot would be no more powerful coming out of the the Falcata - with newtons second law the phaser re-shot would actually be SLIGHTLY less energetic
I was about to say "kinda looks like Netflix's version of the Jupiter 2" then it hit, the Jupiter 2 is supposed to look like the Falcon, with a tamed down design while you embraced the Falcon's lines and ran with them. I think your lore though, that is Kriffing genius, a lower profile phaser relay is like a corner shot for starships, not only does it have great multi vector use, but it would be great for ambushes, a single large ship or space station could place a bunch of these in a debris feild and cover more than they could with conventional ships.
Facinating, An interesting twist on taking ships from other genre's and bringing it in, the only thing I have is the lack of the cockpit section being accounted for which is visible in that blurry image, but other than that you've inspired me to do something similar, taking my favorite ships and just adapting their design
Absolutely love this video!! Such a cool, genius in-universe concept to bring these two franchises together. Makes me wish there was a similar Star Trek Easter egg in a Star Wars movie that you could play around with. Not sure if it's worth it for you to make a video but here's a suggestion: how about an in-universe explanation for the R2 droids in the Kelvin timeline? You could even do a redesign to more closely match the Star Trek aesthetic like you've done here with the Falcon! Looking forward to your continued content, EC Henry!
This is such a cool design! I love the concept! Not to mention that the concept itself sort of reminds me of a Bit from Gundam, which were unmanned support units for Gundams, usually stored in them pre-launch, to later detach and provide a variety of tactical roles, the most common being fire support. Also, I love that the proposed mothership is the Falconer-class.
the lore you built was incredible i love how well you flushed it out and it fits perfect with the existing lore - im not a fan of the ships design for the profile but thats because im not a falcon fan for the design lol the designh you made still puts the accual falcon and alot of starfleet ships to shame it was done well although i would say the dish created a field that absorbed the directed energy to storage to be fired that way it doesnt seem as the dish must be aimed at to recieve
That's some incredible concept lore and designs! Now I want to see this ship on the big screen for real. I like how you came up with something truly unique but still Starfleet for what's ultimately an easter egg and I love the model design.
A few of these attached to a starbase could potentially extend the reach of a star base's power further than previously thought possible. A few of these at the battles of deep space 9 could've changed the course of the war. Good job on the model and the lore
You know what I’d love to see? Your 3D renders of the New Republic cruisers we see as “blobs” in The Force Awakens, in the scene where the Starkiller Base beam is about to hit Hosnian Prime... there are a few ships in the orbit.
Being a big fan of both Star Wars and Star Trek, I absolutely love the idea of a ship in one franchise based on a ship in the other. Also I thank you for pointing out those lovely easter eggs.
It's really neat. would require alot of coordination, and control of the battlefield. And many times in battle, its hard to get the right angle on things, witch this ship seems it would rely heavily on. After watching your vids, you make me really want to make more detailed plans of the ship I have designed in my books. So far I just have few drawings and a few specs of things.
Dang this was very well done, and makes me wonder if you would ever do a video or series where you just re-imagine your favorite Star Wars ships in Star Trek and vice versa, like for example what the Enterprise would look like in the Star Wars Universe or what a Venator or Providence Class would look like within the Star Trek universe or whichever ships are your favorites. Great video btw.
Cool stuff. Kind of like the Gamilon satellite cannon from star blazers. I could see this in use with the Prometheus, but the Prometheus would be the fleet ship, and these could be sector, or base picket ships, similar to the Mars defensive line but actually good. Love the models you make from Star Wars and Star Trek, keep up the good work
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"Congrats ensign, you've been assigned to a ship that our other ships will deliberately shoot at"
notablegoat haa
FYI wear a red shirt and don't expect a long career. You've been promoted to your funeral.
Looking like a toilet seat
Like in Russia "You don't shoot the ship,... The ship shoots you" literally
@@ahcokris Aren't red shirts command in this time period?
I like to think the "Falcon" was a civilian ship belonging to a huge Star Wars fan who got caught up in the battle near Earth.
I totally agree
Yes. Just like people build replica movie cars why wouldn't someone have a replica movie starship.
Huh yeah, the first Star Wars film would exist in Star Trek, cuz Voyager 1 existed and it was launched in 1979. (At least that’s my reasoning)
@@cocofilms5524 sound reasoning. We would still have sci fi space dramas that have nothing to do with "Star Trek" after all. I just imagine some seriously freaked out elitist from the 24th century saying, "Oh my God! Oh my God!" as he tries to flee the scene 😂🤣😂
I found it kind of funny since Star Trek exists as our future so that means that Star Wars exists in Star Trek as a work of fiction so I wonder if they watched it on movie nights on Archer’s Enterprise. Lol
Sir they’re ricocheting their shots off their own ship
WHAT
Nice PFP!
Better than an asymmetrical sublight tug when the DY-100 exists
BROTHER THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING.
Tf when Starfleet 360 noscopes your flagship
Love the pfp.
Rip to the crew of the Falcada:
Ahn Loso
Hewcbaka
Hans Duo
Charles "Chewy" Bacca
@Aesthetic Decision Remaking male characters to females? What are you, an actual movie director from Hollywood?
Second crew:
Andro Kalriksson
Einn Bunn
Lmao
HahHa
She completed the Vulcan run in under 12 parsecs.
Wait a light-minute...
was this why the class was dicontinued? - Because the pointy ears don't like it when u mix up distance and time (or make it seem so)?
*laughing hard*
The maximum hilarity is that Vulcan isn't even 12 parsecs away.
I mean, it's just under 5 parsecs away from Earth...
Oh, I love this. I love how specialized it is, and naming the carrier the Falconeer-class is brilliant. This is great
It being called the "Falcata Class" is also inspired (the Falcata was a type of sword, which fits the role as a weapon ship, AND the term derivates from Latin "falcatus", meaning literally "falcon-shaped").
Hot take: the Star Wars franchise exists in Star Treks Future, and some future SW nerds actually build starships to look like sw ships. Imagine a reenactment group :D
Now I just want a heavy Star Wars nerd in Disco.
Star Wars is actually the result of time travellers from Star Trek's Temporal Cold War, who all travelled back in time to a galaxy far, far away to defeat one another
@@afaultytoaster but by that logic the force would exist in star trek
OK, this is my head canon now.
@@Chillerll In Star Trek, some species do have telekinetic powers naturally, some can even kill with it.
Someone hit the STO developers up on this, I want this as a Carrier and Frigate system in game now.
It's looks like this Falcatta Class could also be a two vector vessel as it's own independent deep space operation ship. But with a modern, NX-02 neck, additional warp nacelles and engineering/crew sections.
Now in this lower cost configuration, the Falcatta can detach from its lower hull and act as a stealth ship while it's lower engineering hull can either be hidden safely, or flown elsewhere fulfilling an additional mission. The Falcatta would magnetically be bound to a sort of landing pad which is attached to the characteristic "neck" found in the larger Starfleet ships.
no
Well Henry does work at STO
"Chewie, make it so."
i'm disgusted
It doesn't have the same ring to it.
🤣🤣🤣
@@admiralsquatbar127 You gotta read it in Picard's voice. 🤣😅
Make it so, Number Wan.
This design and concept is really great! It not only just gives detail to a blurry ship, but it adds to the narrative of the Star Trek universe. Having said that...
It's the Falcon. And Han and Chewie are flying it.
Well according to star trek cannon before getting home after first contact they accidentally get sent to the X-Men universe.
Well there star teck conter parts
"I've got a BAD feeling about this" Han Solo
@OriginalTharios honestly it may be as cannon as star trek online is so idk lol at this point star trek cannon outside of the show(although even discovery is causing issues( I like the show it just causes issues with cannon) basically star trek cannon is like the zelda timeline lol)
Here's what happened. Han and Chewie got sucked through a time portal and ended up in our galaxy in the future where the Star Trek timeline plays out.
After the Battle for Sector 001, Commander Steve Stark proposed an off shoot design as a way to save the overall project.
A Falcota was built with the phaser dishes retasked as sensor and communications arrays and designated as a long range communications repeater and reconnaissance vessel.
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Don't you mean
**Falcon-eyed** viewers?
I'll see myself out
Indeed.
I see you're not too *eagle* to face consequences *beak*-ause of your joke.
be careful not to *choke* on your aspirations, youtube commentor's
Make it so.
You should really analyze the unidentified mon calamari ships from the canon Star Wars comic. The designs are really interesting and I’d love to see your take on them!
If comics fleets are your thing look up Wake (Sillage), it's has lots of them!
"canon" Hahahahahaha
90% of them are just poorly traced fan designs
I know a lot of people (Who are wrong) dislike the Yeager class, but the concept and lore behind it fascinates me. I'd love to see you assemble, from whatever spare parts you'd like, your own Dominion War stop-gap combat vessels.
Thanks for this video, never noticed the Falcon in the background but it got us two absolutely amazing ships out of it. The Falcata class looks like a much more sleek, refined, dare I say beautiful take on the Defiant and Saber classes of ships, and the Falconer was an unexpected treat, like desert after a fine meal.
THIS. YES. DO IT! PLEASE! We want your epic kit-bashes.
Agreed. That possible video (or more than one) is something I'd like to see.
And please consider my suggestion on it as a "hidden" smaller ship, mentioned a little farther down in the comments.
I've seen the Curry Class explained as a carrier variant of the Excelsior made using Miranda nacelles, and the repositioning of the secondary hull gives the ship a shorter profile, making it harder to hit.
Wonder if there are any Star Trek easter eggs in Star Wars.
Allegedly, there is in The Phantom Menace, but I’m not sure if it’s ever been confirmed. In that specific case, it might just be a coincidence.
I think the Enterprise was in The Phantom Menace on Coruscant.
I think the origional enterprise is in the original battlestar galactica in the ragtag fleet...
I remember the game kotor had a mission called "the trouble with gizka" or something like that
Probably. Remember that Star Trek was the biggest sci fi franchise in the world at the time of its release.
Princess Leia: Theres a warp core breach.
Han: I know
"Chewie, eject warp core!" *Growl*
"I know we have a goddamm borgcube on our heels, but that won't matter if we blow into pieces in less then a minute." *Howl, whine*
If Solo would have stuck closer with the existing backstory of Han rescuing Chewie from the Trandoshian enslavers, there would have had a perfect opportunity amidst all those Trandoshians (Bossk people) to place a Gorn in the background.
Omg yes!
EC, this is the most creative and out there idea for this and yet it still feels like something Starfleet would produce. Great job man.
A federation Falcon based ship with a death star superweapon.
Or maybe that Falcon has to do with this comic? th-cam.com/video/QG_-Q6rSjug/w-d-xo.html
The only reason how Falcon can ended up in Earth I think
Or Federation Prometheus/Enterprise in Star Wars style.
This is some hardcore, well thought out fanfic right here, well done! Completely believable within universe and sticks to the old thinkers in Starfleet vs. those new visionaries brought to the front by the threat of the Borg.
Flawless... Absolutely flawless. If I had money I would definitely support on Patreon... This is the kind of content I desire! Theoretical designs based on "forgotten" background vessels.
Yeah, this is great stuff! Salute
Damn now I kinda wanna see the Enterprise in the style of Star Wars.
Which one?
Rumor has it one of the background ships flying past the windows in some scenes on coruscant in Star Wars Episode 1 is the Enterprise-E, I have looked closely and never seen it, think it's an urban legend
@@acoote1701Its in Battlestar Galactica
Picard: "Fire all phasers"
Wesley: "Direct hit, sir"
Picard: "Great kid. Don't get cocky"
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PS yes I know Wesley was never at tactical but meh
Oh, but he was in an alternate timeline.
Remember the episode with the old Enterprise (Enterprise C, Ambassador class)
And the one where worf jumped through timelines
@@DunestrikeMorgan and the ep where picard was in 3 timelines i think
Damn you... I instantly heard Patrick Stewart's voice the instant i read those lines lol. One of the most iconic voices of all time imo.
on screen no...but did he take any night shifts we never saw... maybe
Just come from _Star Trek: New Voyages._
"Don't worry Jim: they've stopped painting targets on the Redshirts..."
And a Blue Shirt dies.
I'd love to see a carrier type mothership for this design. Nice work , and love the lore you crafted around it.
an additional flavor thing for the falconer/falcata combo is that a falconor can make use of phasers that would normally not have an optimal firing angle
It's fairly common knowledge that both the Serenity from Firefly and Original Series Enterprise appear in the 2004 Battlestar Galactica mini-series. We see the Serenity when Roslin is receiving her initial cancer diagnosis and the Enterprise appears later in the background of the civilian fleet, probably because of Ronald D. Moore's connection to the Star Trek franchise. Could you do these those two ships, but redesign them to fit the BSG universe? Otherwise I like the design here. Another variant could have been a torpedo boat with the central dish area instead being torpedo storage and the mandibles being where the launchers are housed. Like the original design for the Defiant in the Deep Space Nine Technical Manual that later became the Nova-class science ship. A high-warp, torpedo heavy combatant meant for hit and fade attacks.
Seconded, here! I'd love to see a series of this. If/when you run out of 'canon' on-screen material, maybe just transplant something iconic from one universe to another and attempt to "make it stick?"
I believe a Lambda-class Imperial Shuttle also shows up in Firefly, at the spaceport in the first episode when Inara is landing her shuttle.
BSG has at least three ships from Firefly (a second one which is similar to Serenity in fact) and one from Star Wars (and Firefly), plus Kodiak from Command and Conquer, and Sulaco from Aliens...so their canon style sorta encompasses all those universes already. Except Star Trek of course. :D
I was thinking the other way, of the central section actually being a giant big ass super mega kingu reactor like the orbital defense platforms around Cardassia or Babylon5 Earth, but with a pair of generic warp engines wrapped around it so it can at least zip from one end of a solar system to the other to meet threats head on. I remember somewhere about how generators and reactors in Star Trek actually being more powerful than pretty much most star ships.
@@andymac4883 There is also the lesser-known Mobquet-class transport, most likely remembered from the X-Wing pc games, landing in Shindig, spotted in the background towards the beginning of the episode.
I really appreciate the thought that went in to this concept and I love the designs of the ship that you came up with. I wish there was a way to make your idea cannon. That would be pretty cool.
I love this! If you and the Trekyards guys don't hate eachother ya'll should collab on a whole episode about this!!! Again, AWESOME WORK!
I really like your render, I could be easaily convinced that this was a ship that was developed from the same line of thinking as the Pathfinder and Defiant line of ships; small, overpowered and able to fight ships many times their size. Love the back story you gave it as well, excellent stuff.
that is the best "think outside of the box" remake I have ever seen
you did a really great job
I genuenly love this
looking forward to support you😊
Admirable work. This is the sort of thing I used to love to do for Robotech back in the day.
This was seriously awesome and I was impressed by the creativity in making the Falcon "work" within the context of Star Trek
After the repeater was deemed outmoded by newer, more effective technology, Various hulls and pre-production units were stripped of their phaser-sink dishes and auctioned off to private parties , and the hull design was licensed out for a spec racing series. The now grossly over-engined and extremely lightweight spaceframes were decked out in various team liveries and raced by various teams in a sort of multi-system grand prix. Their large engines and extreme maneuverability made for entertaining racing across several systems, with the headline race being through the Sol system asteroid belt.
*question:* EC Henry, do you believe that the military version of the nebulon-b frigate is *physically capable* of holding 24 fighters like stated in legends reference material?
Butter Hat not EC Henry But I’d be surprised if it can move 2
I guess it depends on how many attachment points it has and if they can attach to the sides and top of the spine as well as the bottom... Like if you wrapped the spine with A-wings it would probably fit 24 but who knows.
@@airsoftermatt22 The medical bay was a repurposed hangar.
@@Ty-yt3lj if it's possible, then the entire forward swell of the frigate would have to be hangar space with fighters on moving racks and stacked vertically as well as along the entire floorspace. There could also be an elavator that runs up from the under-spire that brings fighters up from deep-storage.
The problem with Nebulon B is that its stats come from WEG game, something written by hacks who were not interested in game balance, and every single rebel ship was given absurd advantages over imperial one. See Y-wings, old, rusty bombers being actually faster and more agile than TIE Fighters (facepalm). The stat blocks also didn't match the ships at all (see 60 "batteries" of ISD instead of 8 heavy turrets it really has in the movies). They were also so bad at math they couldn't even be bothered to finish stat blocks and you often had "price - not available for sale" and "stat - unknown"...
It has been a LONG time since something new in Star Trek has made me deeply excited. And while this is ostensibly a fan work... still, it was really gratifying to feel so good about something in Trek I hadn't seen before. Thank you so much!
While I do like the design, I think the role is a little convoluted. Still, as it is the ship does also have value in it's ability to extend the firing arc of a much larger capital ship, letting it sit inside the shield of a larger capital ship and direct fire from weapons arrays that would otherwise be unable to fire at the target because of their orientation on the ship (Having good weapons coverage is extremely valuable, but if the enemy is directly in front of you then all those extra weapons aren't really doing anything at the moment.).
Personally I think it would be better as essentially someone slapping engine nacelles on a galaxy class deflector array, a utility ship rather than a fighting one.
I have to agree on the convoluted nature of the role. I LOVED the design, but found myself shaking my head throughout the whole description. Honestly, at a glance it looks like a slightly lighter Defiant class, and I think it could excel in that role. The Defiant always struck me as intentionally being a brick with guns. Where most Starfleet ships have what I see as weak points in the nacelle and saucer mounts, the Defiant is more compact and defensively oriented.
The Falcata could easily be Starfleet experimenting with similar designs. Maybe Falcata : Defiant :: Excelsior : Constitution, for example?
The only problem I have with that idea is that it has that it has that crazy huge dish in the middle, and it being a sort of light or proto-defiant is that it doesn't really make use of that very unusual feature for a federation ship. Buuut this is a star-trek vessel, so I'm sure that it can be technobabbled around.
@@kevingriffith6011 That dish in the middle could easily be used as a heavy phaser emitter, it would be the same power as the Defiant's phaser cannons, but more versitile.
Could be.
I'm a little frustrated with people that focus on warp nacelles as tactical liabilities though.
Even if it's true, it glosses over the many valid and varied reasons to design a ship that way even if it looks like a weakness in combat. (which it probably is).
However, the vast majority of ships the federation has are not dedicated combat vessels.
In that light given the likely benefits of distancing the nacelles from the main body of the ship, it also justifies why the defiant pulls them in close;
Being a dedicated combat oriented design, it's willing to sacrifice performance (and arguably safety, given some of the stated reasons for nacelles being on pylons) to make them a less vulnerable target in a fight.
You can see the same design reasoning as federation ships also showing up in Romulan (nacelles at the wingtips) and even klingon designs though (Vor'cha class with smaller pylons than a federation ship placed at the extremities of the ship)
So, if even the Klingons accept a weak point in their warships, the upsides must be fairly significant.
But with the role it has now, it's a Millennium Falcon with a Death Star like superlaser.
STO-Player here.
Specialized is Escorts (Destroyers).
Thanks to this video, I want a Falcata-Class already -- Have my buddies shoot at me for that extra bang and make the scientists a litle more usefull while they're on Downtime (their weapons tend to be rather lame, but this way, they could contribute their own weapon outupt to enhace a Falc's DPS).
Love the idea!
Someone rewatched the Tholian web for this idea
VERY nice storyline and theory for the Falcada class. One of my players in my Star Trek RPG game actually has a son who built a Star Trek version of the Falcon. This fits the bill perfectly. Nicely done!!
Can you make a video about the Falconer-class as well?
Rahbar Al Haq His channel is about detailing low resolution background ships, I don’t think making original ships is his channel theme
@@cosmicmemer1611 A single click on his channel could have showed you that's wrong...
Hello. Cool! "Star Trek" and "Star Wars" are among my cups of tea. Thanks for sharing. Live long and prosper and may the Force be with you and yours. After all, without "Star Trek," "Star *Wars*" would have not existed.
Personally, I’d like to believe that the Palpatine’s [Seed Ships], what he sent out to conquer other galaxies with, was ‘Probing’ the Milky Way as inconspicuously as possible & such.
It also looks similar to the Shran Light Pilot Escort from Star Trek Online.
Honestly to me this ship seems like an interesting idea for a console or hangar pet.
Not even into Star Trek and even I think this is awesome.
Edit: And the outro ad is the Falcon ad for Galaxy's Edge. Wow.
The Legendary Bill Cipher If you get bored there are 25 seasons across TNG, VOY, ENT and DS9, I’m not a fan of DIS, TOS or TAS, but there’s lots of content...
Great idea! Really impressed with the depth and scope of job concept. It reminded me of a conversation I had with a weapons engineer in a pub a few years ago. He told me, ‘we pay quite close attention to science fiction for new ideas’.
Oh, and it’s ‘unfeasable’ not ‘infeasible’.
I think.
Love the rendering as well as the background story. Love the channel. LLAP. 🖖 Let's see it in STO. 😎
that would be awesome XD
You did such a good job that I forgot it wasn't canon about halfway through and wasn't reminded until the end.
The sub and like is strong with this one, Make it so.
Heck, I've never been that into Star Trek, yet I *love* this design! It's so unique and interesting I've never once thought "hey, what if we shoot our own ships for reasons *other* than boredom?", so the idea is, shall we say, most impressive?
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And a Production Supervisor on Star Trek Disco cries out in terror as he is suddenly silenced...
as you have a near perfect overlay of the Magee class
What I like about this. These ships with phaser satellites could defend a planet meaning you essentially gave the federation orbital artillery.
So you just reinvented the Andromedan Satellite Ships from SFB 🙂
The Falconer Class is gorgeous and quite frankly already one of my favorite federation designs.
Isn't it the Captain's launch from under the saucer of the Enterprise D, or similar class vessel?
You make these models yourself REALLY COOL KEEP IT UP!
The shape also lends itself quite well to an auxiliary ship (captain's yacht). I like the Runabout cockpit!
Auxiliary "Falcata" ship (or ships) deployed off the main ship seems more sensible. But I suppose that would basically evolve into a less versatile version of the whole Prometheus idea the "Falcata" is meant to replace.
This is cool. You should do a couple ships where you take a Star Trek ship and reimagine it as a Star Wars ship and vice versa
I'm impressed. Also, can you do the Starhawk-Class Battleship?
Hey this design is really cool, fantastic work! Extremely unique take on the Falcon!
I would have turned it into an automated gunning platform that changes its orientation and angle in relation to other ships engaged in combat. Having a crew on a ship you are planning to fire on sounds risky. What if the ship is damage and it fails to absorb the energy?
That is brilliant! I love both the concept and design. Plus how you worked it into the lore is perfect!
Here's a fun challenge try out making the ship from Ewoks: The Battle for Endor, Noa's (Wilford Brimley) ship from the oft overlooked tv specials
I love that you still kept similar design choices like the runabout cockpit.
No wonder the Borg Cube explodes, Han&Chewie gives it a good pounding with the Quad Laser Cannons from the Falcon. Yieeeeehaaaaaa!!! Raaawwwwwrrr!!....
Or the Borg simple couldn´t handle with that "Force" of Weaponfire ;-)
Or..the Borg Queen was "Forced" to evacuate the Cube. ;-)
Captn Pun, signing off.
I'm sorry I missed this vid when you made it. As a fan of westerns as a kid, I had one immediate thought at first sight. The old western gatling gun.
But instead of bullets it would launch a stream of photon torpedoes in rapid succession.
The circular area in the middle is like a modern day drum magazine that just spits one after another torpedo out as long as you can remain on target.
Ya, no. Ya didn't sell me on the Falcata. It's just to ridiculous as an upjumped mirror. A better idea. would be to have a huge central capcitor of its own to power a few overpowered phaser arrays for a high alpha strike, then slip away into the shadows. Take the Deffiant's pulse phasers, stick them on an even smaller ship, but with oversized capacitors (relative) and send a few of those in at something. cheap, fast, and glass-cannon/10.
@aethertech I love the way you think. That's cool AF. But I still thinking Han and Chewie are in starfleet uniforms flying that ship with an Artoo aboard.
yeah I'm with you, my thought while watching was that it should have been wholly independent like an orbital defense platform with a giant big ass super-mega-kingu reactor/particle-cannon with generic warp engines to zip from one end of the star system to the other to meet threats head on. I remember from somewhere that reactors in Star Trek put out more power than most star ships do, so.
I think I just found my favorite TH-cam channel, I loved the model and the way you created a story.
This is definitely the first of many videos that I will watch.
The only thing I disagreed with the concept is that the question of designing a small ship is for it to be fast, maneuverable and difficult to hit so I think that the concept of the mother ship having to hit it would be counterproductive because if that is easy the enemy ship too will take advantage of these opportunities, perhaps if the shields channel the energy of the enemy ship to the deflectors and Falcata could use this energy to improve and supercharge the weapons the way you implied, but I loved the video
Sorry for the "google translator" english.
Is the attacked Borg ship at time stamp 4:22 a Borg pyramid or a kind of Goa'uld ship? ;)
Pretty sure it was meant to be a very basic Diamond ship - like two 4-sided pyramids stuck together by their square base.
@@AlMcpherson79a diamond ship? then its the Borg Queen's ship
Assimilated Cheops-class warship?
@@jamescooper7878 The Borg queen has a pyramid on a rectangular solid, NOT a pyramid.
Damn, you just made all this up? I’ll admit, I’m impressed. That’s a new subscriber for you. Well done.
The thing that always bothered me about the Prometheus... what happens if the middle section is destroyed in a fight?
Also, I submit the name Ben Tussi class
Since i have not looked at 3d models of the Prometheus in a long time so this is only a guess. But I would like to think that the other two sections could still dock back up and gtfo. I would like to think they designed it in such a way that the top and bottom sections had at least a couple docking clamps.
@Thelondonbadger Nice Analysis of the Prometheus class.
Man I just love seeing all of these kinds of ideas and giving life and lore to starships that have been forgotten.
Do the Crossfield. In my head, the Crossfield represents a proto Galaxy class; a large, modular starship capable of multiple missions but it didn't catch on because technology of the 23rd century wasn't up to the task of having a multimission ship of that size. I have an entire headcanon about it.
Very nice work! It looks like an actual starfleet vessel. Also the story behind it sounds very plausibele
Keep up the good work
very interesting concept, but i have to compare that ship to a magnifying glass - you can get the magnifying glass to concentrate the suns rays but it cant produce any more energy than the sun would be outputting.
furthering this analogy, the falcata class ship could redirect the phasers fired at it but wouldnt be able to give it any more power unless it came from the falcatas power source
In weapons it’s not strictly raw output. It’s that output over time and area. A bullet doesn’t carry much energy generally speaking but it applies it over a tiny area and over a brief amount of time. A basketball can conceivably hit you in the chest with the same force as a 9mm pistol round but we know the results won’t be the same.
@@DrewLSsix indeed true, thats why a bullet penetrates, because its applying that tremendous amount of energy on a small contact point...
i jut went on to say its %100 feable to have the falcata class ship that absorbs and refires the phasers -
i was just mentioning that phaser shot would be no more powerful coming out of the the Falcata - with newtons second law the phaser re-shot would actually be SLIGHTLY less energetic
I was about to say "kinda looks like Netflix's version of the Jupiter 2" then it hit, the Jupiter 2 is supposed to look like the Falcon, with a tamed down design while you embraced the Falcon's lines and ran with them.
I think your lore though, that is Kriffing genius, a lower profile phaser relay is like a corner shot for starships, not only does it have great multi vector use, but it would be great for ambushes, a single large ship or space station could place a bunch of these in a debris feild and cover more than they could with conventional ships.
I love this idea. It really gives new life to the auxiliary ship idea that was saucer separation and makes way more sense than the Prometheus
Dude that design is epic truly got that Trek feel
Very interesting concept, I probably would have gone with something a little more traditional but this is cool too.
Facinating, An interesting twist on taking ships from other genre's and bringing it in, the only thing I have is the lack of the cockpit section being accounted for which is visible in that blurry image, but other than that you've inspired me to do something similar, taking my favorite ships and just adapting their design
It's just a runabout with a dish.
I love the Runabout style cockpit window.
Absolutely love this video!! Such a cool, genius in-universe concept to bring these two franchises together. Makes me wish there was a similar Star Trek Easter egg in a Star Wars movie that you could play around with. Not sure if it's worth it for you to make a video but here's a suggestion: how about an in-universe explanation for the R2 droids in the Kelvin timeline? You could even do a redesign to more closely match the Star Trek aesthetic like you've done here with the Falcon! Looking forward to your continued content, EC Henry!
What an unbelievable concept. Great work!
This is such a cool design! I love the concept! Not to mention that the concept itself sort of reminds me of a Bit from Gundam, which were unmanned support units for Gundams, usually stored in them pre-launch, to later detach and provide a variety of tactical roles, the most common being fire support. Also, I love that the proposed mothership is the Falconer-class.
Great graphics and concept story! Falcata Class and Falconner Class sounds cool. Maybe Millennium Projects can be referred too
Keep up the great work
This is actually amazing
Very nice! I dig the subtle Star Wars-style greeblies on it.
OK I loved the Prometheus reference, because the Prometheus class vessel is so underrated
the lore you built was incredible i love how well you flushed it out and it fits perfect with the existing lore - im not a fan of the ships design for the profile but thats because im not a falcon fan for the design lol the designh you made still puts the accual falcon and alot of starfleet ships to shame it was done well although i would say the dish created a field that absorbed the directed energy to storage to be fired that way it doesnt seem as the dish must be aimed at to recieve
Ingenious design! With a completely original idea as to it's function. Well done.
New temporal agent timeline that goes back in time.
I’d love to see you try and model up some of the ships from FTL and Endless Sky.
Great content as always dude.
Tough little X2 ! Nice take Mr. Henry !
That's some incredible concept lore and designs! Now I want to see this ship on the big screen for real. I like how you came up with something truly unique but still Starfleet for what's ultimately an easter egg and I love the model design.
A few of these attached to a starbase could potentially extend the reach of a star base's power further than previously thought possible. A few of these at the battles of deep space 9 could've changed the course of the war.
Good job on the model and the lore
You know what I’d love to see? Your 3D renders of the New Republic cruisers we see as “blobs” in The Force Awakens, in the scene where the Starkiller Base beam is about to hit Hosnian Prime... there are a few ships in the orbit.
I was unaware of the easter egg shown in this video. Your take on it, is really good. Great post. subbed
Being a big fan of both Star Wars and Star Trek, I absolutely love the idea of a ship in one franchise based on a ship in the other. Also I thank you for pointing out those lovely easter eggs.
It's really neat. would require alot of coordination, and control of the battlefield. And many times in battle, its hard to get the right angle on things, witch this ship seems it would rely heavily on. After watching your vids, you make me really want to make more detailed plans of the ship I have designed in my books. So far I just have few drawings and a few specs of things.
Dang this was very well done, and makes me wonder if you would ever do a video or series where you just re-imagine your favorite Star Wars ships in Star Trek and vice versa, like for example what the Enterprise would look like in the Star Wars Universe or what a Venator or Providence Class would look like within the Star Trek universe or whichever ships are your favorites. Great video btw.
Cool stuff. Kind of like the Gamilon satellite cannon from star blazers. I could see this in use with the Prometheus, but the Prometheus would be the fleet ship, and these could be sector, or base picket ships, similar to the Mars defensive line but actually good. Love the models you make from Star Wars and Star Trek, keep up the good work