2024 Ford E-Transit electric van gets 32% more range & 50% faster charging
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- 2024 Ford E-Transit electric van gets 32% more range & 50% faster charging
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One with more range would be great for camper conversions.
I was contemplating this option but the regular base van starts from EUR 32k, while the E-Transit van starts from EUR 60k, both for the Trend trim. That's prohibitively expensive (and that's the price of the 64 kWh one) not to mention that it doesn't come with AWD nor with the Trail package, both of which would be important for at least half of the campervan world. You also lose the ability to use a gas/diesel heater which complicated things even futher (you would need space for an LPG/propane tank and a full caravan heater). Sure, there are some benefits but I think efficiency would be abysmal when loaded (and possibly towing) so the fuel cost savings would be minimal, if any. And you would have to stop to re-charge every 100 miles on the highway.
@@szabiszekely Yeah, but I am from Florida. I would love EVs for camping because then I could just sleep at a rest stop or camping site with no power. That would save me a lot of money. But yeah, I see your point.
@@jlamm2223443 where would you save money? By using the onboard heat pump instead of the gas /diesel heater at night?
@@jlamm2223443 I have one and converted it to a camper. I find free ac plugs all over the place at parks and public buildings. I stealth camp at the airports etc. No more dirty hotels. I have a shower, toilet and queen size memory foam mattress
Range should be plenty for most tradesmen and parcel deliveries,in urban areas,especially.
Ford needs to do what the leading car manufacturers are doing. They need to build an EV only Transit on an EV chassis with structural batteries, thus have a practical range and weight. And the charge speed needs to be much higher, this is a commercial vehicle and time is money.
As a nitpick: SAE J3400 (NACS) allows up to 277V AC L2 charging - this may not seem like much, but it will make it much simpler and cheaper to install L2 chargers at commercial, industrial and dense residential locations which usually have power coming from the grid at 480V/3 phase. Any single phase to neutral is 277V, so you can hook in directly. Dropping to 208-240V requires the customer to operate one or more additional transformers - which often don't have much (if any) spare capacity even if the 480V/3phase does have plenty of capacity.
Level 2 is 240 v 100 amp max 208 & 277 v is 3 phase.
@@sparkysho-ze7nmAnd J3400/NACS specifically allows 277V. The car only sees one phase (one leg to neutral) - sure, it's tapped off a 3-phase supply, but that's irrelevant to the car. 208V L2 charging is already widely implemented. Just like 277, the car never sees the 208, it sees one leg and neutral (ie one phase) from the 3-phase supply. Username does not check out. Any "sparky" should have learned this way back as a helper.
Ford E-Transit electric van gets 32% more range & 50% faster charging
great so it will now do 110 miles and charge in 7 hour's
now this has made me cry with laughter... we had one on loan to use as a parts delivery van once loaded up it managed 59 miles and we had he L2 H2 variant
😂 exactly
We desperately want electric vans for our business, but none have the range we need. We have to drive gas and diesel machines. We have orders in for several Cybertrucks to haul custom trailers, but we really need an electric van with 300 mile range. Just nothing available yet. I would change my ICE Ford Transit vans to electric in a heartbeat. I just can't yet.
Every one who doesn’t count has an opinion.
Amazing how few miles a van does every day and so while the improvement is worthy, the old one will be perfect for many users.
160 isn’t bad. It would be an acceptable, but just barely, range for an RV version since you’d be able to drive for 2h between charges. 2-3 hours is the typical time between stops in an RV. Bump it up to 200 miles and we’re good.
Big improvement but I hope they upgrade yearly
Keep going Ford that's all I can say cheers mate
The ICE Ford transit were great, so hopefully their electric version will be good at some point.
we had one on demo for 2 days..... it was terrible
We had quite a few issues with the 2015-17 or so turbo diesels, the turbos would go on them prematurely. But they were massively more reliable than Mercedes Sprinters
@@jasonquaile2492 the newer sprinters are just made of chocolate these days
Ford is late but OFFICIALLY a ev PARTY participant whoop whoop whoop
Just wait another 5-10 years.
is there an AWD version? That is when id be all over a van for work and play.
@ 1:13 , When Ford first introduced the Transit EV van, Ford’s webpage said its staff had conducted a comprehensive research as to the typical range needed by van owners. Ford concluded that about 75 miles range is typical, and hence, the 100 miles battery range is more than sufficient. On the other hand, the same van but powered by an ICE has a 27 gallon fuel tank giving the van about 350 miles range. Ford is either scamming you or its right hand doesn’t know what its left hand is doing. Very troubling.
Would Ford do that???
Very true. If 100 miles is enough, why bother a as fuel model has so big miles range.
EVs are a no brainer for local delivery businesses. All about efficiency and running costs.
If you have to deliver small, low weight packages: yes. Otherwise: NO.
Wondering if Canoo will make it. Not everybody needs a van as big and heavy as E Transit. A Tesla with a shell and higher roof would be nice! Camping mode! Even the E Transit for a van lifer who stayed 99% in one county seems like a winner, and be able to draw from the HV or use heat pump for comfort also necessary.
How long would the battery last if towing 1 ton weight?
Less then 100 km, probably. That's the main reason these vans don't sell well. The idea is good, but they are not practical in use.
Morning mate
Still not good enough for many fleets /vehicle operators. Charge speed is fine. Battery capacity needs to double again. We use E-350 or E-450, dully axle in the rear with an ambulance box on the back. Average truck does 150-175 miles per shift, and then goes right back out again for another shift. Vehicles have GVWR in the 12K lbs range.
Sam I would like one .....when do they come down to OZ
They should’ve started with 100kwh for the battery pack and put that same pack into their other big vehicles
Since the battery is now bigger, does that mean the loading weight restriction is now also lower?
Depends on the country in some eu countrys if you can prove the weight comes from the drivetrain (BEV or Hydrogen) and doesnt add stupid amount of tourghe which dmg the roads more it does not
The 2023 model cost $105K plus on roads in Australia- how much is this one ? My 12 year old diesel Hiace cost me $30K when it was a year old, has a range of 650km, and “recharges” in 5 minutes. When it’s a like for like equal comparison give me a call.
You don’t a massive range for local delivery vans. There’s a lot of stop start driving which works well with the battery. Most cities have have pollution charges so you’d save money running this
Most local delivery doesn't need a lot of range.
The thing is when you need it you need to buy a second car.
Trouble is if you limit charger state to between 20% and 80% as many experts recommend for battery life you are back down to about 100 miles of useable range. Still pretty poor.
A lot of vans do more than 200 miles in a normal working day. With that in mind, a minimum battery capacity of 100 kWh is more realistic for those drivers. Of course, if more White Van Drivers®drove within the speed limits, then that would help to improve driving range significantly...
specs are one, software and reliability is another.
It Could open up other markets in diy recreational vehicles for van life mobile homes…
Electric vans are dc distribution lines w/out sun stations every 1 1/2 mile
No, the range is too small. Most of these recreational vehicles are diesel, for that specific reason.
Hopefully commercial EV’s will charge at their home base and not at public chargers. Here in the NewYork city area many ride share drivers are driving Tesla’s creating wait times at superchargers. It would not be good having a line of E-transits hogging all the Superchargers. There is a Tesla location in Brooklyn that has Magic Docks and there always shows a wait on my Tesla app.
Lightning and mustang get lfp. What about this van?
👍😁
Why can't Ford just buy those CATL batteries that have a 620mile range? now that would be good!!
They increased the range by doubling the battery, but did they decrease the price and reduce the production time? Will Ford be able to make a profit on them?
Probably not
All that room in the van. They couldn’t give it more range? Even as an add on option?
Can't wait for VanLife in an EV.
It needs a 40pc price reduction, even Ford ICE vans costs are spiraling out of control.
159 miles minus 40 miles for heating or AC....
Need 150kwh battery ..minimum!
Ford could use 89 & 120 kwh battery for ford connect...
distance is rubbish (Range) my 2001 transit fwd mk6 2.0l diesel doese 50mpg on a run at 56mph (Range 600 miles ) Non stop NO FILL UPS
159 miles isn't enough to go over to next county and back especially with the ac running all day.
Depends how close you live to the county line, could be a 30 second trip in the best case scenario.
@metricstormtrooper I live in a large medium population county. It would be at least 1 hr to get to the next county where the work is.
Ac on, weight of the cargo, maybe towing something, etc. At the moment these vans are still a "no go" for most of the small businesses and/or for recreational purposes. They use diesel vehicles.
I drives my transit every day around 80 miles but someone i drive 140 and more . I haul tools and windows for installation. So what i will do if my job is out my van range 😂
Buy another Van. So they can sell you 2.
Now if they could just get their Home Integration Kit to work.
Where's the Tesla van?
Elon said it's something he can do now. It's in production, it's better than sliced bread, and you'd be stupid to not buy it. No, wait, he said that in 2010, 2011, 2012....
Ford needs to increase the battery pack to over 110kwh and make it structural in the platform. JMO.
43600 is ok but could really use a 120kwh battery.
Soon you may be take over the number one position of electric jesus.
Only good within city
The previous 100 miles is perfect to deliver groceries, or for the plummer or the cable guy.
With some cargo/weight, the range is much lower than 100 miles. That is why they don't sell well.
Imagine what your videos will.sound like in 20 years.
ive gone from a ev van that got 75 miles....back to a petrol that just got 440 miles....and yes I love it....not going back....the ev was amazing to drive....but bad degradation..range...and resale
... that's what happens when you cannot buy a Chinese transporter because your government decides for you. Have fun being put back financially because your government dictates so.
A bit underwhelming going from 60 kWh to 80 kWh.
Why are you keep talking about Tesla SC?
The OLD Transit had access to Tesla SC network, so does Volkswagen E-Up.
Notice that ALL the videos clips of the charge uses the Type-2 connectors, because this is NOT a US vehicle....
There are EV outside the US...
The EV revolution slowly creeps in the back door ...
People who drive courier will either LOVE these or hate these, based on the interviews I saw with Amazon drivers. But companies .... COURIER and LAST MILE companies? Oh, they were good with the old one, shut up drivers and drive! The NEW ones ... even better TCO and ROI. Less than TEN years for the courier business to "flip" to EV, just because of better financials (unless Ford or Rivian or Brightdrop ALL screw up).
And once the courier drivers get used to EVs? THEIR personal vehicles are going to be EVs ...
It’s still great to drive under 45 mph so if ford ceo gets stuck driving behind enough e transit vans going no more than 45 mph he might see the light! Yes I own one and don’t drive very fast on about half of my trips. I also have diesel vans and use them when I know E transit won’t make it. Amish transportation. So getting started with E- transit because of benefits. Ready to expand to more e vans as soon as range is close to 300 miles. By the way getting 140 miles or more in good weather. 22 E transit.
3:33 What do you mean the Ford Transit started production in 2014? They've been made since 1965! It was originally only sold in Europe and Australia, then expanded to the whole world minus North America. Only in 2013 did they introduce them to North America replacing the Ford E-Series. Your claim they started production in 2014 sounds like you're only talking about it's introduction to USA and Canada.
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One more general thing:
Batteries do not get charged and discharged but charges are getting separated...and when people " speak of the batteries getting used and "discharge" it's just that the charges re-unite.
Today we still have a highly primitive form of charge separation - and it's notveven parallel but a sequential act. That's like not having a Gigapress but using a hammer to form the body of a vehicle.
Partially sequential we also brush out teeth. There were some attempts like the Amabrush to do it more parallel...but the dudes didn't continue to improve that.
In fact: all the money lies in doing things more parallel instead of doing it sequential.
The more parallel you achieve to create a product or give a service the more you will be an industry leader. It can even be as good as a sequentially generated product or service...but you can do more in the same time. Therefore you win.
Yes. exponentail growth compared to linear growth.
@@stvybabyExactly. You can pick up every single particle of dirt on the floor by hand...or you can use a broom.
Current electric Vans is a Mega Joke , most of them with real loaded range 150-170km :)
Very nice but way to much for me. Id rather make my own vehicle at this point like an ebike with 1000km range that could tow a trailer with the same cubic capacity as this van and i could probably do it under 20k... Just ridiculousely priced but who am I to say? Im sure it cost them alot to built, but thats the problem, they should be aiming to build EV's cheap , the motors are simple compared to gas engines, sure the battery is expensive but thats should be the majority of the cost, Way to much on everything else it feels like we're being gouged for wanting to go green and not surprisingly its by companies who also sell gas cars so they wont ever try to make an EV for $10k, Why should clean transportaion be for the super rich or lifelong in debt? Ridiculous.
If 100 miles range and low capacity is good enough for 95% local delivery, why no gas van has smaller fuel tank and very small capacity edition? Because when you need it, you can do nothing. you have to buy another backup car. That is very expensive.
Hay why don’t you sell the picture behind you on the wall the elephant make a link so we can buy one
Thanks
JR
Tesla is the best car company ever no gas stations no oil changes no smog check no corrupt dealerships no catalytic converter no dealer mark up above MSRP!
everyone copied their interior design with the tablet
Yeah their vans are superior!
This van allegedly gets 32% more range and 50% faster charging. So what are we comparing those numbers to, what did this van originally achieve.
You remember the toddler merry go round in the shopping mall that you put a quarter in and holds 4 toddlers?
Compare it to the new Ram, Sprinter and Rivian delivery van...👍
Biggest negative is depreciation....all EV'S
Yes pissed about MYLR DEPRECIATION could have bought 10mpg truck instead. One year it drops 20k so everyone is stuck unless you eat it. So how are the mfg going to help incentivize all the EV owners who are upside down. I read 80% of current Tesla owners are stuck with whatever model they got and will most likely not upgrade until they are closer to even. It looks like I'll own MYLR for 5 years plus before I can upgrade.
Elon, please offer special trade in offer for current MY owners if they purchase MS or MX. Maybe $7500 off ?? Any X or S
Depreciation, higher insurance cost and cost for new tires every 10-12K miles, kills all the financial advantages of driving an EV.
What does this beast weigh? The huge weight chews up tires and brakes and creates lots of extra pollution. Not to mention the effect on the roads and the need to upgrade and replace the crash barriers.
Bit of a cheerleader, not a balanced discussion.
Wonder if he gets paid by the ev industy.
Still not usable. Needs at least 250mi range or it is just not acceptable. You can't even drive it to the next city with any load at all, so still not good enough. This is an example of Ford telling us what to do with their cars instead of listening to us and what we need.
Sam published four videos today, all about 4 hours apart. I think the EV lobby keeps him prisoner in that room and shove food and drink in through a grill every now and again.
He is making money on all of these. A good market, in my view.
Ford is going cheap. Still, has a too small battery. Need 120kwh battery, 250 miles range.
I would never buy an electric van that looks similar to the ICE version. i own a transit diesel that i bought used with a very low milage for 10000 euros 7 years ago. when i buy a electric van in the future, than it should look like a modern electric vehicle, hs a good range for a reasonable price. 55000-70000 euros is absurd.
You won’t buy an electric anything period! Hope u don’t choke on your diesel fumes!
@@skepticalmechanicIt has to be financially viable to by one, especially for small businesses. EVs are still very expensive!
I’ve noticed over the past 3 or 4 months there is a growing change in the sentiment of the replies to these videos. There is an increasing number of people questioning the authenticity of the pro EV data that Sam constantly pushes out. Sam is a social media influencer and salesman, he uses a formula to push his messages across. He would apply the same formula to selling tomatoes.
There is also a tendency in America to increasingly push back against EVs. China is an aggressively growing international competitor, with the Chinese government always on the Chinese side. America will adopt an ever- more aggressive stance right back. This is new.
Sam takes the manufacturer's blurb as gospel; I have warned him about it before, especially the tripe being pushed by the Chinese EV makers/CCP.
People who have actually done proper reviews and real life driving tests of EV vans report the range often reaches barely 40% of the claimed range; the same is true to an extent, of EVs, LOTS of manufacturers are making up range claims that the cars cannot get anywhere NEAR in real life.
It must be a total coincidence, that most of these manufacturers are the same ones implicated in "diesel-gate".
Speaking as an EV enthusiast.
You typed something but typed nothing at the same time. Show other data if you have some. Otherwise you are just a joke...and most likely paid by the ICE industry. Probably a worker who doesn't want to lose his job...because you losers have no chance against China, Tesla and South Korea.
@@ianemery2925my Tesla model 3 range is about 256 miles.. in summer it’s actually more than the rated 270 miles range… u don’t have one and don’t know what your talking about! Get back in your gas guzzler!
Great for the tradesman but not worth a dam for those of us that tow travel trailers. We need 250 miles when fully loaded and towing a trailer.
Sry, this is just unusable . 256 km is nothing :D and in winter or with some load / hills ? it will not do even that LOL + Crazy price. Bul$$it product.
Its a Joke
This never happens in ICE vehicles, 32% more range 50% faster to fill up...... The future is electric 100%.
Really not sure you thought that through.
Lol unlimited range with 1 minute fill ups
@@christopherj2231 my hybrid gets 640 miles to £48 worth of petrol less than 10 minutes if i pay at pump (timed it yesterday took 8 minutes open flap to pressing start) from compared to my old ioniq which took just over an hour to charge and only did 260 at best so i get 245% more range and 743% quicker to run my hybrid
...an it is just the beginning. BEVs and autonomous driving as well as batteries are still in their baby shoes. What's already top notch is: the electric motors. But even they will improve.
I personally don't have a vehicle any more. Taxis, rent-a-car and public transport (which is the safest mode of transportation). Robotaxis will be the real disruption because they will lead to an overall shrinkage of vehicles on the streets and parked.
@@beavcleav3086If you would have an education in electronics as I do you would know that charge separation isn't equal to filling something up.