I really loved Norm MacDonald...it was the first time I ever cried when a celebrity died. I used to listen to him every morning on the train to work. I wish I had a chance to meet him ❤
I was lucky enough to get to meet him once. I went to a taping of his short-lived TV show called "Sports Show with Norm Macdonald" back in the day. As with any taped show, there are many pauses in filming for one reason or another, and on some of the more lengthy filming breaks that Norm wasn't personally involved with, he would invite random people from the audience to come up and put with him on his little putting green that he had right in front of his desk on the set. I was one of the lucky putters on the day that I went. My meeting with him was very brief, but I at least got to tell him how big of a fan of his comedy I've always been. He was very humble and appreciated my comment, and made sure to have a few quick words with everyone he invited on stage. That's my "I met Norm one time!" story. I will certainly never forget it :)
I'm a Mexican from a different generation than his. I was nowhere near knowing him, but I watched every piece of video and audio of him that I could find on the internet. I'm not particularly sensitive, but the day he died, I cried inconsolably, and I cried a few more times throughout that week. To this day, his final appearance on Letterman still makes me cry.
I saw Norm live, he was great for an hour but then he just rambled on forever, no real jokes or anything. He must've done close to 3 hours. We all just sat there and took it to the face. I had to piss so bad but I didn't want to miss anything. I think he knew we all had to piss and was trying to make us piss our pants, that was probably the real joke. RIP Norm, shine on you crazy diamond
HUGE Norm fan, but I gotta say, Anthony's been very honest and consistent in discussing his and Norms relationship. He deserves some credit for taking on an icon, very few comediens would ever do that, its to be commended
I like Jeselnik and appreciate his admiration of Norm. However, it depends very much on the type of battle he was fighting with Normie and what his motivations were. I can imagine at the time - young and trying to prove himself - that Anthony was maybe not picking the right battles for the right reasons but that’s just an assumption.
I don't know Norm personally, but from what I've seen I get the feeling like he respected people who don't back down from what they believe way more than someone who would just kiss his ass because he was an idol of theirs. He may have even found whatever disagreements he and Jeselnik had to be annoying, but kowtowing and being spineless was probably less of a likeable trait.
@@qbf4128 To be forgotten, you first must have existed. Let's be kind and say he's ahead of his time; people will discover and appreciate him in 20 years after he's Van Gogh'd.
So in the end they are both right - they did have genuine philosophical differences, and as you say Norm never took Jeselnik serioulsy and trolled the entire time.
@@philoneussquire3877 Okaaayyy...... so much for two intelligent people just having different world views, I guess. I love norm, but maybe you want to go easy on the idol worship there, mate.
It’s gonna be very difficult for him to go to long form, but as he runs out of steam with what he’s always done, and he finds his long form skills, he’s gonna be a legend
Norm is probably the most authentic comedian I've ever come across. He couldve had fame and fortune but never compromised to please anyone. He was loyal and had some piccadillos but it helped add to his true character. Suffering through terminal cancer without telling anyone so they don't feel pity or detract from the laugh in any way is the ultimate testament to the art form.
This guy is pretty good compared to a lot of guys these days, but Norm and Patrice we're on another level. No political correctness. Just stating the obvious, and both with a sharp tongue and wit. Norm is my absolut favorite comedian
The irony is that Norm has never wasted any of our time; listening to him ramble on about anything has been an absolute gift. It's the reason I listen to everything Harland Williams has to say now, as I believe he's the spiritual successor of Norm. You don't truly appreciate the legend until they are no longer a living legend, so try your best.
Gotta love videos that mention Norm where it's not pure idol worship because it brings out the portion of his fanbase that he would 100% despise and they don't even realise it. 😆
I'm not a stand up comedian. But once people use you as a surrogate. Then it does feel like purposefully self sabotaging would be the way to get people to otherwise not do that.
@@CaptainCologne I've been working with the definition of a hack joke as meaning the subject has been done to death. "my wife can't cook" would be a hacky premise.
Sounds like Norm and Anthony wanted to do Kill Tony but the network wanted them to do "reality" TV garbage. They should have listened to the talent. Also, is Anthony Patrick Bateman?
Wading through jeselnik talking about writing jokes was really a bummer. He talked about the words brilliant and hack in the same sentence and connected it to comedy no less.
I don't like Anthony in interviews or how he portrays himself as a person. But I appreciate he is a decent comedian. He seems like a very unlikeable person and is constantly saying negative things about other comics and it's the only reason he shows up on my TH-cam feed. That and anytime someone mentions Norm you have my click.
Sounds like Last Comic Standing was just kind of a shitty job for them. They weren't allowed to really do what they were good at, and they took the frustration out on each other because they were literally parallel situations.
You can not be a successful comedian unless you are REALLY smart. Every good professional comedian is also incredibly clever. You can't be one without being the other.
I'm a huge fan of both guys, they are both extremely funny. But I think you are wrong, at least not in all cases or anything approaching all cases. Norm, god bless him, was kooky, there is no way around it, and he would pick fights sometimes not on principle but just to pick fights and see what happened. Norm wasn't a god bucko.
Norm would've disagreed with this sentiment, he said on Stern or alluded to it other interviews that nobody is a "sacred cow" in comedy. Norm's whole thing was pushing buttons & challenging power just to see what would happen
Anthony Jeselnik is a freaking assassin… These other guys like Legion of Skanks and Tony Hinchcliffe don’t like him because they are intimidated by him and they suck
@@MrCBTmanyou spelled complainer wrong? All I see of this guy is bitching and reels about him talking about better comedians. The hair cut is fitting.
Just butt hurt cause he doesn't like the basic, lowest common denominator comedians that are part of the Rogan universe. Not everyone is as boring and stupid as you "alpha males." Haha.
It was never his show and he should have bowed down and been more gracious. That was the issue. Norm should have hosted. Norm is funnier. He’s not in Norm’s league.
Anthony catching a lot of heat lately but it really just comes down to how he views comedy. To him it's an art and therefore there is responsibility for the artist, as opposed to comedy being just a job or "silly". You can't really say there is a right or wrong perspective, since humor is so subjective BUT if you try to actually understand how Jeselnik perceives stand up, you would understand why he is criticizing comics that put out so much daily or weekly content that 98% of it is total dogshit brain rot. I was fortunate enough to see him in November 2023, which was basically his current Netflix special and then some. He is a true professional and takes what he does seriously. It's ignorance that is making these Tom and Bert fan boys attack him in every comment section. He isn't jealous, he clearly just thinks people are taking advantage of the art form for the sake of money/face time and he disagrees with that approach. He puts out a special every 4-5 years, (Bert has 4 in the period of Anthony's last 2) talks about retirement, is not obsessed with his podcast, stopped doing the roasts, which everyone wanted him to keep doing, and refuses to recycle topics. Compare that to the Roganshere comedians
If you're philosophical difference, as comedians, is that one of you wants to be the smart guy and the other one is actually the smart guy who prefers to pretend he's not smart, then the wannabe smart comedian has the wrong philosophy.
@@MrFtge I grew up with Norm and I'm very similar in thinking and degenerate gambling. Norm was much easier to relate to. Jeselnik only cares about money and his image. Norm didn't give a Fook.
Talk shows are weird people reacting with fake laughs fake etc to fake conversations. Hosts fake interests and bring up rewritten topics and set up comics to repeat old jokes he was trolling the host the audience and the platform overall. While simultaneously making old short jokes everyone knows and turning them into long stories where the punchlines are unpredictable or when the setup / wordplay is so funny the whole anticlimax distracts you and the punch line is exactly what you thought it was in the beginning 😂😂😂 --- a norm fan this guy was not !!
I think TH-cam comments are weird. It's a place where know-it-all losers and post repeatedly on the same video sharing their wrong opinion nobody cares about.
Oh, so this last hour was a bunch of subpar jokes to get one joke out. Thats That'sa perfect summation of this new special. It wasn't bad but it wasn't great.
I really loved Norm MacDonald...it was the first time I ever cried when a celebrity died. I used to listen to him every morning on the train to work. I wish I had a chance to meet him ❤
I actually patted him on the ass when he played my city a few years ago (he didn't react)
Norm was watching you cry and laughing while making jokes about you crying for someone you never knew.
I was lucky enough to get to meet him once. I went to a taping of his short-lived TV show called "Sports Show with Norm Macdonald" back in the day. As with any taped show, there are many pauses in filming for one reason or another, and on some of the more lengthy filming breaks that Norm wasn't personally involved with, he would invite random people from the audience to come up and put with him on his little putting green that he had right in front of his desk on the set. I was one of the lucky putters on the day that I went. My meeting with him was very brief, but I at least got to tell him how big of a fan of his comedy I've always been. He was very humble and appreciated my comment, and made sure to have a few quick words with everyone he invited on stage. That's my "I met Norm one time!" story. I will certainly never forget it :)
@@gustafsone I love this story so much. How lovely.
I'm a Mexican from a different generation than his. I was nowhere near knowing him, but I watched every piece of video and audio of him that I could find on the internet. I'm not particularly sensitive, but the day he died, I cried inconsolably, and I cried a few more times throughout that week. To this day, his final appearance on Letterman still makes me cry.
I saw Norm live, he was great for an hour but then he just rambled on forever, no real jokes or anything. He must've done close to 3 hours. We all just sat there and took it to the face. I had to piss so bad but I didn't want to miss anything. I think he knew we all had to piss and was trying to make us piss our pants, that was probably the real joke. RIP Norm, shine on you crazy diamond
This interviewer is amazing. Asks really good lines of questions to keep the conversation going.
Couldn't agree more - such insightful questions
The Norm stuff starts at 4:20 btw
Thanks mate
I read this while I was at 3:50 😅
Babylon!
Ty!
Lights up perfect 😂
Love listening to Anthony discuss process.
Norm Macdonald had something no other comedians have.
Or so the Germans would have us believe
@@pedrosimas2642 🤣🤣🤣
HUGE Norm fan, but I gotta say, Anthony's been very honest and consistent in discussing his and Norms relationship. He deserves some credit for taking on an icon, very few comediens would ever do that, its to be commended
I like Jeselnik and appreciate his admiration of Norm.
However, it depends very much on the type of battle he was fighting with Normie and what his motivations were.
I can imagine at the time - young and trying to prove himself - that Anthony was maybe not picking the right battles for the right reasons but that’s just an assumption.
I don't know Norm personally, but from what I've seen I get the feeling like he respected people who don't back down from what they believe way more than someone who would just kiss his ass because he was an idol of theirs. He may have even found whatever disagreements he and Jeselnik had to be annoying, but kowtowing and being spineless was probably less of a likeable trait.
I made it to the semi finals on the season of Last Comic Standing that he hosted
My brother committed a suicide because of your performance
Did you see any head butting?
@@stephenbarone4053 there were some small funny arguments between the host contestants and judges that they cut out
Anthony must really respect Norm because he is really tip toeing here and that’s not what I expected.
He is tip toeing because Norm's greatness is undeniable and Jeselnik will be forgotten in 20 years
@@qbf4128 To be forgotten, you first must have existed. Let's be kind and say he's ahead of his time; people will discover and appreciate him in 20 years after he's Van Gogh'd.
Jeselnik thought him and Norm had genuine philosophical differences, while Norm never took Jeselnik seriously and was trolling the entire time
He recognized commie "goobly-goo" when he saw it.
Best part about this lol why do modern “comedians” take themselfs so seriously
So in the end they are both right - they did have genuine philosophical differences, and as you say Norm never took Jeselnik serioulsy and trolled the entire time.
@@JacquesduPlessis11 they had genuine philosophical differences in the way one might disagree with a toddler
@@philoneussquire3877 Okaaayyy...... so much for two intelligent people just having different world views, I guess. I love norm, but maybe you want to go easy on the idol worship there, mate.
Jeselnik has begun the Timothy Busfield transformation phase
Lol
Norm macdonald is my hero...since comedy central played snl reruns
We saw him, funny as fuck, the whole show. His warm up music was insanely good.
It’s gonna be very difficult for him to go to long form, but as he runs out of steam with what he’s always done, and he finds his long form skills, he’s gonna be a legend
ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS. 🐕🐾🐾🐾🎤
💪🦾💪🦾💪🦾💪💪💪🦾💪
So bad they don't know that you finished the joke
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💞💞💞
Priceless
Norm is probably the most authentic comedian I've ever come across. He couldve had fame and fortune but never compromised to please anyone. He was loyal and had some piccadillos but it helped add to his true character. Suffering through terminal cancer without telling anyone so they don't feel pity or detract from the laugh in any way is the ultimate testament to the art form.
Watch his new special Bones and All. Great special. A lot of jokes as always. He’s different than a lot comics nowadays just up there telling stories.
it was a fantastic special. I can’t picture anyone else doing that type of comedy
@OrangeJuicePapi his misdirections at the end of the joke is very Louis CK. He's darker but some similarities.
Jeselnik really seems like he has his head on right.
Damn I’d love to see the footage of anthony and norm roasting the shitty comics
This guy is pretty good compared to a lot of guys these days, but Norm and Patrice we're on another level. No political correctness. Just stating the obvious, and both with a sharp tongue and wit. Norm is my absolut favorite comedian
I've heard Rogan say that 200+ times!
If you think Anthony jeslnik is PC you're lost
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq I just described Norm. Don't take it personal. Jeselnik is absolutely pushing boundaries, he's just not as funny as Norm.
@#$& the Snider cut. I want to see the Jeselnik cut of Last Comic Standing.
The irony is that Norm has never wasted any of our time; listening to him ramble on about anything has been an absolute gift. It's the reason I listen to everything Harland Williams has to say now, as I believe he's the spiritual successor of Norm. You don't truly appreciate the legend until they are no longer a living legend, so try your best.
He doesn’t even criticise Norm.
Gotta love videos that mention Norm where it's not pure idol worship because it brings out the portion of his fanbase that he would 100% despise and they don't even realise it. 😆
Skip to 5:00 if you want to actually hear about norm
You’re a real one.
Anthony is going through his Johnathan Taylor Thomas phase.
RIP Norm The GOAT; is it just me or has Anthony transformed in to Seth Green?
He’s a pretentious pr*ck who thinks he’s smarter than everyone else
Jeselnik has 10 inches on Green…. And he’s taller.
He's a douche
@@crazykbsplus Seth green exclusively likes women😊
@@crazykbs wooo got eeem
Anthony jeselnick sounds like he’s constantly about to start doing an Arnold Schwarzenegger accent 😂
“Oh, it’s harder. It’s absolutely getting harder.”
This guy has been in the same position for 20 years
He is my favorit❤❤❤
I'm not a stand up comedian. But once people use you as a surrogate. Then it does feel like purposefully self sabotaging would be the way to get people to otherwise not do that.
Covid really did a number on this guy. Homie aged 15 years since 2020 😂
Yeah…he grew his hair…real magical. Great eye.
Ruined your man crush?
@ your. Mom did
Why does ButTard still exist? Also, Norm is the GOAT
NOW GO GET ME MY GIANT TURKEY LEG, YOU NOTHING 😂
Great interviewer.
when does he start talking about norm
what does hack mean exactly? Sometimes I think it means "trite". And other times I think it means "cheesy."
Trite though some trite jokes are also cheesy.
@@CaptainCologne sounds right
@@ph8768 I also took his use of a “hack” joke to mean simply amateurish and weak.
@@CaptainCologne I've been working with the definition of a hack joke as meaning the subject has been done to death. "my wife can't cook" would be a hacky premise.
@ You’re right. I looked it up and it comes from “hackneyed” which is your interpretation.
2:03 describes Bryan Callen in ivry facit.
Thought of Russell Peters, Seen it from a few different comedians don’t think it’s Callen since he was never a funny stand up lol
Norm talks about it in his book. He said the concept of bombing is funny. Trying to make people laugh and people aren’t having any it.
Who are these guys
If a comedian tells a joke and nobody laughs, THAT’s funny-Norm
My perspective is very different
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If Norm didn’t like you, then your a guaranteed POS… Their was nobody funnier than Norm and his charisma and courage were unmatched
That's stupid lol he didn't like a lot of people. He preferred sitting at home eating Count Chocula
I'm only 50% sure this is satire lol
I love Norm, but you talk about him like he was Jesus LOL
Weirdo
He was the funniest man to ever live. Yeah it’s weird
Sounds like Norm and Anthony wanted to do Kill Tony but the network wanted them to do "reality" TV garbage. They should have listened to the talent. Also, is Anthony Patrick Bateman?
He kinda set himself by doing A ton of Dark Jokes.
It reminds me of that tragedy...
People dont understand the psychological challenges of creatives. What makes us, breaks us.
Wading through jeselnik talking about writing jokes was really a bummer. He talked about the words brilliant and hack in the same sentence and connected it to comedy no less.
Find someone that treats you the way Dan treats shock jock comedians.
Norm was the GOAT
So, it's FINALLY OUT...He IS a MUPPET
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Dude looks like my recovering alcoholic father in law.
Message for Jeseldick that was Norms way of letting you know you're not a good comic.
Well. That's your opinion. Shrug. I love them both.
Then Norm was wrong. Being an icon doesn’t make you always right
AJ is funny as hell!
Norm as a judge and that show was the worst point of his career. He wasn't funny, he wasn't pleasant, he was just bad to watch. And he's my favorite.
The joke is having to listen to his nonsense until 4:23 to hear about the real icon of comedy
Its called a push up
I don't like Anthony in interviews or how he portrays himself as a person. But I appreciate he is a decent comedian. He seems like a very unlikeable person and is constantly saying negative things about other comics and it's the only reason he shows up on my TH-cam feed. That and anytime someone mentions Norm you have my click.
Sounds like Last Comic Standing was just kind of a shitty job for them. They weren't allowed to really do what they were good at, and they took the frustration out on each other because they were literally parallel situations.
You can not be a successful comedian unless you are REALLY smart. Every good professional comedian is also incredibly clever. You can't be one without being the other.
...why is Anthony morphing into YOUNG Seth Green?
Jeselnik is aging in dig years. LaBastard is too
So. Someone thought it would be funny to waste Norm McDonald's time. That's some good irony
I really appreciate Jeselnik's honesty about that old lump of coal. I never liked that Norm fella either.
The worst part about Norm was the hypocrisy.
Jeselnik is such a bloated hack compared to Norm. Norm couldn't bear not being humble and modest. This guy is the total opposite.
Jeselnick occasionally sounds likes Arnie
If you're butting heads with Norm just realize you're in the wrong
I feel like Norm would have hated sycophants who say things like that
@JamesMorris84 your right arrogant anthony is much more likable, dummy
And you'll get played. ❤ Norm
I'm a huge fan of both guys, they are both extremely funny. But I think you are wrong, at least not in all cases or anything approaching all cases. Norm, god bless him, was kooky, there is no way around it, and he would pick fights sometimes not on principle but just to pick fights and see what happened. Norm wasn't a god bucko.
Norm would've disagreed with this sentiment, he said on Stern or alluded to it other interviews that nobody is a "sacred cow" in comedy. Norm's whole thing was pushing buttons & challenging power just to see what would happen
Comedians aren't the only people who complain when their jobs get harder, they're just the least believable
Funny you can talk about anything but bash people that talk about anything on their podcast 😂
Not sure Jeselnik knows comedy, he thinks Amy Schumer is funny.
Anthony Jeselnik is a freaking assassin… These other guys like Legion of Skanks and Tony Hinchcliffe don’t like him because they are intimidated by him and they suck
He immediately thinks his own new joke is brilliant
I clicked this video because of Norm’s name. I don’t care about this guy at all.
Still waiting for his first great special. Best of luck Anferny
Huh? He’s easily the best comic out there right now.
@@MrCBTmanyou spelled complainer wrong? All I see of this guy is bitching and reels about him talking about better comedians. The hair cut is fitting.
@@huntingChains That’s okay, I can see why a genuine conversation would trigger your jealousy.
Anthony's said & done more funny things in a day, than you'll ever do in a lifetime. Stay salty & jelly
Just butt hurt cause he doesn't like the basic, lowest common denominator comedians that are part of the Rogan universe. Not everyone is as boring and stupid as you "alpha males." Haha.
It was never his show and he should have bowed down and been more gracious. That was the issue. Norm should have hosted. Norm is funnier. He’s not in Norm’s league.
The guy he called “his hero and one of his idols”?
I miss patrice
when he was really cooking, I don't think there was another funnier comedian out there.
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@@sliceserve234Norm Macdonald
@@bigmoose99 Norm is one of my favorite comedians, but when Patrice was on he was even better than Norm imho
@@sliceserve234also that could completely dominate an argument or room.
Anthony catching a lot of heat lately but it really just comes down to how he views comedy. To him it's an art and therefore there is responsibility for the artist, as opposed to comedy being just a job or "silly". You can't really say there is a right or wrong perspective, since humor is so subjective BUT if you try to actually understand how Jeselnik perceives stand up, you would understand why he is criticizing comics that put out so much daily or weekly content that 98% of it is total dogshit brain rot.
I was fortunate enough to see him in November 2023, which was basically his current Netflix special and then some. He is a true professional and takes what he does seriously. It's ignorance that is making these Tom and Bert fan boys attack him in every comment section. He isn't jealous, he clearly just thinks people are taking advantage of the art form for the sake of money/face time and he disagrees with that approach.
He puts out a special every 4-5 years, (Bert has 4 in the period of Anthony's last 2) talks about retirement, is not obsessed with his podcast, stopped doing the roasts, which everyone wanted him to keep doing, and refuses to recycle topics. Compare that to the Roganshere comedians
Jesus, Jeselnik has let himself go
Jeselnick should work on being funny. Good change of pace for him.
Dude's hilarious! 🤣 What the hell?!?
@@roar4393 A lot of the self-called """anti woke""" crowd likes to performatively vice signal lol
Jeselnik looks different. Does he have cancer?
Le Chubby’s voice alone is grating
and the balding head prominently displayed as he leans it forward and down is also disgusting
I attended one of his shows. It was awful.
Norm’s better …
It's kind of lame how he thinks he's soooo edgy but he's too chickenshit to tell real jokes
jeselwhack
Anthony looks bad
Norm was the jazz of comedy, everybody genre snob talks about how refined and sophisticated they are but I find them both terribly uninteresting
If you're philosophical difference, as comedians, is that one of you wants to be the smart guy and the other one is actually the smart guy who prefers to pretend he's not smart, then the wannabe smart comedian has the wrong philosophy.
This guy is way too confident
that's the thing, I think it is well earned. I think he is a subtle genius.
And your jealousy speaks more about you than it ever will anyone else
He's really funny in small doses, like the comedy roasts and his tv shows. But his stand up specials are meh.
Nah horrible take, you just don't get it
What? Quite the opposite!
Norm was a real person... Jeselnik is a phony.
You never knew anything about Norm as a real person lol
@@MrFtge I grew up with Norm and I'm very similar in thinking and degenerate gambling. Norm was much easier to relate to. Jeselnik only cares about money and his image. Norm didn't give a Fook.
It's only harder if you're trying to be politically correct
Talk shows are weird people reacting with fake laughs fake etc to fake conversations. Hosts fake interests and bring up rewritten topics and set up comics to repeat old jokes he was trolling the host the audience and the platform overall. While simultaneously making old short jokes everyone knows and turning them into long stories where the punchlines are unpredictable or when the setup / wordplay is so funny the whole anticlimax distracts you and the punch line is exactly what you thought it was in the beginning 😂😂😂
--- a norm fan this guy was not !!
I think TH-cam comments are weird. It's a place where know-it-all losers and post repeatedly on the same video sharing their wrong opinion nobody cares about.
This guys hates on all these so so comedians but there all still beter than them
Anthony J blows
Oh, so this last hour was a bunch of subpar jokes to get one joke out. Thats That'sa perfect summation of this new special. It wasn't bad but it wasn't great.
Jezzledik is weak
So this guy is thinking about retiring? From what? From no one ever hearing of him?
You don't know who Jeselnik is then you didn't know comedy.
@@Moses771he sucks. Norm is the king. This guy is a hack. Patrice is still waiting on that giant turkey leg.
You're out of touch
@@patrickhynes2937 ooh, bootlicking Norm MacDonald. How edgy
@ Only NPCs like Jeselnicks. Can’t recall a single bit he’s done that has made me laugh. Guy talks like a Muppet being voiced by Jim Henson.