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Marvels Avengers: The Disgrace That Was (The Jimquisition)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ม.ค. 2023
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    Marvel's Avengers is finally closing its doors after failing to make waves as one of Square Enix's many "live service" games. Let's look back over the broken promises, financial losses, and assorted failings of Crystal Dynamics' busted cash cow.
    #Marvel #Avengers #SquareEnix #CrystalDynamics #Microtransactions #LiveService #JimSterling #Jimquisition #JamesStephanieSterling #StephanieSterling #Games #Gaming #Videogames

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  • @Mojomoud
    @Mojomoud ปีที่แล้ว +785

    I’m convinced that Final Fantasy XIV is basically the reason Square Enix hasn’t burned to the fucking ground yet.

    • @originalscreenname44
      @originalscreenname44 ปีที่แล้ว +211

      It 100% is. It's exactly why Yoshi P gets to avoid all of Squenix's corporate bullshit because they know if they fuck with him they will cease to exist.

    • @StormsparkPegasus
      @StormsparkPegasus ปีที่แล้ว +105

      @@originalscreenname44 He will fight the con artist CEO for as long as he is able to. At some point I have a feeling that guy is going to try to force NFT's into the game...at which point Yoshida will resign rather than do it, and the game will die overnight. I have a feeling Sony is waiting for Square-Enix to go bankrupt so they can pick and choose what they buy. Because buying the entire company outright would be a bad business decision since they are so poorly run, by a con artist.

    • @EvilPikachu
      @EvilPikachu ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Well, Yoshi P and the nostalgia stranglehold they have on FF7 Remake Part 2/3. That's all that's holding Square Enix together any more. They went from true legends to a disgrace in just a couple of years. Whoever has taken the helm recently has wrecked the company almost beyond repair with their avaricious live service obsession.

    • @WolfKitOF
      @WolfKitOF ปีที่แล้ว +46

      I started playing FFXIV mid 2022, and I've really been enjoying it so far.
      There's a definitely a part of me that's terrified Square Enix will ruin it before I'm done enjoying it.

    • @StormsparkPegasus
      @StormsparkPegasus ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@WolfKitOF I can guarantee they will ruin it, it's just a question of when. Yoshida will absolutely fight for as long as he's able to. And I have no doubt he would resign rather than allow the game to be ruined under his watch. But he's only one guy, and while he is on the board of directors he is not the CEO.

  • @GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm
    @GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm ปีที่แล้ว +1396

    When I heard that The Avengers game was shutting down, my first thought was: "Can't wait for The Jimquisition on Monday."

    • @CaptainRed1000
      @CaptainRed1000 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exact thoughts.

    • @joeavreg2254
      @joeavreg2254 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you not see the bit where all the cosmetics and shit will be free but no refunds if you bought them? Cause fuck you for paying.

    • @chwenhoou
      @chwenhoou ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here.

    • @eckerama
      @eckerama ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exact same thought I had lol

    • @useraccount333
      @useraccount333 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm waiting for the Stadia episode. Yeah, that got officially shut down the other day.

  • @LieseFury
    @LieseFury ปีที่แล้ว +181

    "DK's in this is gonna be bananas" is better than any fake dialogue from a Ubisoft trailer

  • @5TailFox
    @5TailFox ปีที่แล้ว +127

    "The EA of Japan" might just be the most apt description of Square Enix I've ever heard.

  • @Dantes38
    @Dantes38 ปีที่แล้ว +535

    "Don't trust them. They haven't earned it." Seriously good advice.

    • @Lectrikfro
      @Lectrikfro ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I think they have earned the distrust at this point

    • @abadenoughdude300
      @abadenoughdude300 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The sad part is that even the ones that were pretty trustworthy in the past have squandered all of that trust by now.

    • @hazukichanx408
      @hazukichanx408 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "No pay-to-win stuff! Yay! Clap and cheer, simps, CLAP AND CHEER!!"
      "We're reducing XP gains because players are just getting so overwhelmed and confused by levelling fast!"
      "We're now selling XP boosters, yay!"
      The timeline very clearly tells the story of a pack of liars and the insultingly obvious scam they were clearly planning all along.

    • @kosmosfan01
      @kosmosfan01 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hazukichanx408 Whenever I read that excuse for lowering XP, I think they're not real or they really thought they're core audience was gonna be casuals 😆

    • @Tanesis
      @Tanesis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abadenoughdude300 'You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain' seems appropes bearing in mind the vid content

  • @chantolove
    @chantolove ปีที่แล้ว +655

    “I’ve been wearing an incorrectly fitted bra” never say we don’t come to this show for relatable content. this is a mood

    • @KabbalahSherry
      @KabbalahSherry ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Very relatable 😭💀 lmao

    • @Tardisntimbits
      @Tardisntimbits ปีที่แล้ว +16

      100% relatable. > .

    • @magicrainbowkitties1023
      @magicrainbowkitties1023 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Binders for me, but phat mood nonetheless

    • @donaldotrumpo828
      @donaldotrumpo828 ปีที่แล้ว

      If he needs a bra it’s most likely cause he has a bad case of gynecomastia

    • @magicrainbowkitties1023
      @magicrainbowkitties1023 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donaldotrumpo828 Or maybe they have tits bc they want them and literally took hormones in order to acquire them just throwing that out there

  • @maxpower1232
    @maxpower1232 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    About 11 years ago when I was hired at Square-Enix Montreal... I listened to a speech by the head of the studio about how they would continue to focus on what they were known and loved for... Single player games. Shortly after some really important overpaid suit from Japan came to the studio to announce that SE was going to focus more on mobile gaming and multiplayer because it was what everyone was doing. Shortly after the head of the studio quit... And Tomb Raider got a multiplayer mode... and everything just got stupider from there. Its ridiculous when I think about how a low level employee like myself was able to predict with 100% accuracy ever single bad decision... And yet millions are being paid to idiots who don't understand anything and who produce nothing... These shitty AAA companies are on life support, with their inferior products being propped and hyped up by their PR and Marketing departments.

    • @anonymousfwefwefwefweff
      @anonymousfwefwefwefweff ปีที่แล้ว +5

      well, at least they hired you! they did not hire me.

    • @cyniccinny
      @cyniccinny ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@anonymousfwefwefwefweffdon't worry, you're not missing much.

    • @jgn
      @jgn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dawg NEO TWEWY got negative marketing

    • @Sonichero151
      @Sonichero151 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The top of the game industry is run by business majors who never even touched a video game. The problem is the game industry is run by non game industry people...... *so the answer is kinda obivious*

  • @xGamermonkeyx
    @xGamermonkeyx ปีที่แล้ว +85

    As I feel everyone else felt at the news this past week of Marvel's Avengers being culled, I had a profound sense of "Wait. . . that hadn't happened already??"

    • @amberbaum4079
      @amberbaum4079 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, I forgot it even existed. Who are these lunatics who kept playing?

  • @LordHonkInc
    @LordHonkInc ปีที่แล้ว +220

    Man, who'd've thought that your live service "forever games" would turn out to pull the emergency brakes the second they weren't profitable. If only somebody, maybe even a buxom video producer and professional wrestler, could have seen that coming OH WAIT

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby ปีที่แล้ว +23

      yeah, this has never happened except several times before, but this one was gonna be different...........woda thunk a studio that sells the tomb raider ip to buy nfts would fall for get rich quick schemes.

    • @rhaeven
      @rhaeven ปีที่แล้ว +6

      While Fortnite continues to exist they will keep trying and trying and trying and...

    • @bobbybeard1497
      @bobbybeard1497 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@rhaeven the same way every game publisher tried to make MMORPGs because WOW was profitable without realising the market wasn't big enough for another one

    • @hannahvickery4683
      @hannahvickery4683 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@bobbybeard1497 ironically the MMO is the one they got right and is single-handedly keeping them afloat (maybe hyperbole but not by much)

    • @ince55ant
      @ince55ant ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i didnt know Accursed Farms done wrestling...

  • @resileaf9501
    @resileaf9501 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    James Stephanie Sterling: "Let's make this quick because it gets very hot in the studio"
    Also James Stephanie Sterling: *Spends several minutes in the intro going on random tangents*
    This is why you're my favorite :D

    • @GeoNeilUK
      @GeoNeilUK ปีที่แล้ว

      They are awersome... and I'm not just talking about the boobs!

    • @EmeraldLavigne
      @EmeraldLavigne ปีที่แล้ว

      ADHD is a motherfucker like that.

  • @baconlabs
    @baconlabs ปีที่แล้ว +98

    I sincerely hope the "LOOK AT THE *_SIZE_* OF 'EM!" clip comes back to haunt us when we least expect it

    • @chaoslab
      @chaoslab ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Massive!

    • @jadefalcon001
      @jadefalcon001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m here for it. That was fantastic.

  • @MsKnowItAll26
    @MsKnowItAll26 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    “Plus the 12 people who played Babylons Fall” 😂🤣 I laughed way to hard at that one.

  • @andrewdickson1556
    @andrewdickson1556 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    "The cold kiss of the Tonberry's knife" genuinely belly laughed at that!

    • @AerinRavage
      @AerinRavage ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You'd think Square-Enix would know about the Tonberry hate reset quest...

    • @rcblazer
      @rcblazer ปีที่แล้ว +16

      At this point, the Tonberry knife should be Square-Enix's official mascot. Not the Tonberry itself, just the knife.

    • @Tardisntimbits
      @Tardisntimbits ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AerinRavage I guess they just try to avoid the Temple of Uggalepih instead.

  • @benking3647
    @benking3647 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    i'm glad you mentioned the whole "wrong fit" debacle because i remember over on Twitter multiple influencers coming out to try and defend Square's comments like, "hey, Crystal was the wrong fit. that's OK to say!" but really the broader issue is that Square believes in failing live service models no matter the studio, it appears, and the weirdos who came out to defend Square seemed to miss the whole point as to why people were justifiably frustrated by their comments.

    • @unnamedenemy9
      @unnamedenemy9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      there's always some idiots who will uncritically swallow and repeat what corporations peddle

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Square Enix seems to cling to business models proven to be misguided. Live services, NFTs. In addition to being greedy liars, they're also the ultimate marks for grifts.

    • @mediumvillain
      @mediumvillain ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Crystal Dynamics wasnt the the wrong fit, they designed a fun superhero combat system and the campaign was alright. a live service game was the wrong fit. trying to shove that superhero combat system into a live service loot collection game ruined it in basically every other way, even trying to fit the campaign into the live service model made it worse.

  • @TheGrifCannon00
    @TheGrifCannon00 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    To quote Yahtzee, "let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything...tee, hee, hee."

    • @paultapping9510
      @paultapping9510 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was funny ten years ago, it's starting to get old.

    • @joeschmoe2843
      @joeschmoe2843 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@paultapping9510 I disagree. Tee hee hee

    • @The_Dragon_Tiamat
      @The_Dragon_Tiamat ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paultapping9510 It's never not funny to laugh at Capitalist and Capitalist supporters or the actual name for then Liberals. Yes that's right Liberal doesn't mean someone on the left side of a political party but instead a person who isn't a Capitalist yet supports the system anyway.

  • @mylabot
    @mylabot ปีที่แล้ว +53

    stephy discovering theres no such things as cute bras past D cup. I felt that.

  • @Wynntersenk6017
    @Wynntersenk6017 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    I laughed so hard when the person behind the camera started listing off games they’ve canned and then number 5 was marvel avengers. 5 live services being canned is truly abysmal.

    • @kosmosfan01
      @kosmosfan01 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Big yikes when you hear them listed like that.

    • @MrYago-xd7um
      @MrYago-xd7um ปีที่แล้ว +9

      At the end of that list I thought,"Enix trying to rival america in mass shootings this month?"

    • @AceStrife
      @AceStrife ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Isn't even all of them in just the last year. FFRK happened in September, one of their longest running mobile games (with the best music of all of them). Current DFFOO players are expecting it to be the next game shuttered, and it's had Mobius FF and FFRK converts, so we'll really be hurting once it happens.
      SE have become one of the worst gaming companies on the planet. And when reading this sentence out I read "EA" in my head.. really shows their atrocity now.

    • @hazukichanx408
      @hazukichanx408 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Remember when a video game was just a thing you bought, played whenever you wanted to, and then stuck in a bookcase or a Steam library or whatever until you felt like playing it again? Instead of a second job you have to keep showing up on time for in order to get your Goodie Tickets for that one cosmetic you want? And then they shut it down and you're like "What was all of that for? Why did I give them money for that experience, and for my hard-earned goodies that are now grains of sand upon the wind?"

    • @kosmosfan01
      @kosmosfan01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hazukichanx408 Those people that put money into Marvel's Marketplace are taking a big L right now with it being free to everyone since they're no longer gonna update it. Sometimes the writing is on the wall immediately that a live service game is gonna flop quick. Good thing we still have some good games that we can play without all the live service stuff, new and old.

  • @Nemzal
    @Nemzal ปีที่แล้ว +332

    I take a kind of sick thrill in seeing these things happen to these things.

    • @gManGabe
      @gManGabe ปีที่แล้ว

      Schadenfreude. Yes, the germans have a word for everything.

    • @SalinaBabba8343
      @SalinaBabba8343 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Same, same. It's a sweet sense of justice in a world mostly deprived of it. I do feel for anyone suckered in though

    • @neithermanc1
      @neithermanc1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      although the publisher is the only sick one here

    • @shindean
      @shindean ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why is it sick? This was a terrible game meant to take advantage of the unearned fandom from marvel supporters.
      I am thrilled that this dies, while Marvel Snap excels.

    • @Redsandjunkie
      @Redsandjunkie ปีที่แล้ว +11

      There's a German word for it. It's called "schadenfreude," which means to derive pleasure from someone else's misfortune.

  • @snugasapugonarug
    @snugasapugonarug ปีที่แล้ว +46

    You know what's a good live service?
    Any game with an active modding community. Like the original Doom games. Came out in the mid-90s, and they're still thriving.
    Edit: Just got to the Tamagotchi part with Doom noises. Prophetic.

    • @Sonichero151
      @Sonichero151 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So Skyrim and most open world Bethesda games then?

  • @gamepapa1211
    @gamepapa1211 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I still remember when the name "Squaresoft" was synonymous with ingeniousness and quality. And then they decided to make a Final Fantasy movie that has nothing to do with Final Fantasy. And that's where the dream ends.

  • @NateMcBrady
    @NateMcBrady ปีที่แล้ว +124

    The level of psychic satisfaction with this announcement was…-chefs kiss-

    • @SalinaBabba8343
      @SalinaBabba8343 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was a near orgasmic catharsis of complete predictability

    • @ince55ant
      @ince55ant ปีที่แล้ว

      its like getting a wood splinter out or taking a long held in dump

  • @The_Blackshield
    @The_Blackshield ปีที่แล้ว +205

    Monday is never complete without a Jimquisition. :)

    • @klisterklister2367
      @klisterklister2367 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @bleh329
      @bleh329 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just keep checking and refreshing until the video is here.

  • @Nyahahameha
    @Nyahahameha ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It was definitely a bold architectural decision to form the primary load-bearing columns comprising Square Enix's headquarters out of giant Jenga towers.

  • @micheljavert5923
    @micheljavert5923 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This is a hilarious coincidence for me because somewhere around the end of December I was thinking how remarkable it was that the game was still going (ie, the servers were still on). I just figured Disney was making sure the lights stayed on since its tied to their tentpole movie franchise.

  • @chwenhoou
    @chwenhoou ปีที่แล้ว +26

    When the death of Marvel's Avengers dropped, I immediately thought of a delivery man telling James Stephanie Sterling they won a pony.

  • @Amialythis
    @Amialythis ปีที่แล้ว +147

    I love when your intros are YTPs. Even when they're underwhelming it's nice to see the genre represented. As dathings sometimes says, people will often say things like "I miss YTPs" even though a lot of people still make them.

    • @CheeseHenderson
      @CheeseHenderson ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Kinda reminds me of Brutalmoose's videos. Not YTPs, but he'll just throw YTP techniques into his videos

    • @ianv.1470
      @ianv.1470 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ah King of the Hill YTPs, where have you gone?

    • @Amialythis
      @Amialythis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ianv.1470 i made one like a month ago

    • @Amialythis
      @Amialythis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CheeseHenderson yeah. YTP has been very influential to modern memes as well.

    • @InfiniteAnvil
      @InfiniteAnvil ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Check out Very Tall Bart. He's been making great YTPs of conservative media figures. Leans a little too hard on "this homophobe just said he's gay lol" but the constraint of having each character only ever speak in their own voice maintains the flow, and leads to some hilarious moments where you realize there hasn't actually been a cut in a few seconds.

  • @Tothro
    @Tothro ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi, I'm just here to remind that whenever companies report "losses" it's the unachieved revenue from the projections done during inception of a project, not the actual paid cost that was not regained. Those are usually met within the first two to four Qs.

  • @TheGreatSquark
    @TheGreatSquark ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Given how Wizards of the Coast's disaster appears to have been rooted in trying to quash competition for their own future live service video game, following your last video up with this is quite fitting, really.

    • @kevinbayu7621
      @kevinbayu7621 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wizard of the coast are making video games now? That's odd, I thought they focus on tabletop gaming.

    • @DestroyYouAlot
      @DestroyYouAlot ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kevinbayu7621 They're attempting to tie in an upcoming edition of the TTRPG with their new virtual tabletop solution, and attempting to go back on a 23 year old license (that was intended to be perpetual) to cut out their competition (i.e., existing virtual tabletop solutions).

  • @Timmzy27
    @Timmzy27 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    I must say, I’m actually really excited for Square’s “Big NFT project” to launch whatever it may be,
    As that will be the reason WHY they sold off a bunch of studios and IP… to fund the biggest failure they’re going to have of 202X.
    When the NFT “game” flops and blows up in the executives faces, imagining them saying “Why did this fail? And why wasn’t there a warning?” and watching them scramble to make/release actual content whilst waiting to see what dribble of excuses they spit out, I mean it’s going to be entertaining watching them fall.

    • @arturoreyes2119
      @arturoreyes2119 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      To quote a Sterling tweet from when Digital Homicide was eating itself: not enough popcorn in the world

    • @shadowsonicsilver6
      @shadowsonicsilver6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Any way we can get rid of these CEOs?

    • @3Rayfire
      @3Rayfire ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's going to be so damn entertaining. It'll be like a Lonely Island Song.

    • @RAHelllord
      @RAHelllord ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@shadowsonicsilver6 Nope! The board of directors and / or majority shareholders would have to hold a vote to oust them, but that only works if they can get a majority of votes going, iirc.
      If the leaders want to sink that ship they can, and by the looks of it they will.

    • @nobodyinparticular9640
      @nobodyinparticular9640 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@shadowsonicsilver6 lots of napalm could be one way to do so

  • @masontthompson81
    @masontthompson81 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Jim's reaction to this game at E3 is an all time highlight.

  • @daiakunin
    @daiakunin ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I'm truly impressed that square enix was able to take one of the most popular franchises in the world and find a way to make it fail.
    Something that never fails is the Cassandra of videogames.

    • @kneau
      @kneau ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yet here I am, hoping Cassandra's 2023 run in London goes well!!

    • @cleanearth6238
      @cleanearth6238 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like all the other 20 woke games that failed...

  • @Rita3500
    @Rita3500 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Whenever people talk about corporations caring about art, I always think about this quote from Micheal Eisner, the former CEO of Disney,
    “We have no obligation to make art. We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make a statement. But to make money, it is often important to make history, to make art, or to make some significant statement. We must always make entertaining movies, and, if we make entertaining movies, at times, we will reliably make history, art, a statement or all three."

    • @emperorfaiz
      @emperorfaiz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At least he was honest

    • @Sonichero151
      @Sonichero151 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lindsey ellis fan?

  • @Will-o-Wisp
    @Will-o-Wisp ปีที่แล้ว +204

    I must say ever since you came out Steph I must say it’s so lovely to see you become so much more confident and comfortable with yourself strut your majesty with your peak makeup game

    • @g0mikese
      @g0mikese ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I'm right there with you on this. It's so nice to see Steph happy and doing well with their wrestling and personal life. It sucks that they have to deal with so many transphobs though.

    • @TOSkwar22
      @TOSkwar22 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Also, while the old outfit was banger in its own way, the sheer style Steph's displayed since coming out has been spectacular. Genuinely fantastic.

    • @bemysty
      @bemysty ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Steph has the sort of style I want to have when I grow up.

    • @michimatsch5862
      @michimatsch5862 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They truly have mastered the art of non-binary finery.

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Honestly been watching the Jimquistion for years and Steph coming out has made no difference to me personally really and yet its made Steph so obviously more comfortable in themselves and so infectiously happy in all the videos since. The fact so many unsubscribed is fucking pathetic. Always loved the Jimquistion and always will and honestly Steph seems happier than she ever has.

  • @Finvaara
    @Finvaara ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Those 12 people who played Babylon's Fall have been burned so hard at this point, there are scorch marks in their underpants.

    • @KSignalEingang
      @KSignalEingang ปีที่แล้ว +4

      To be fair, that was probably true before they started playing.
      To be even fairer, those aren't scorch marks.

    • @kneau
      @kneau ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let's not perpetuate this myth of "underpants."

  • @shrimpisdelicious
    @shrimpisdelicious ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've been following the D&D Open Game License story, and something that's I've realized is that Wizards of the Coast wants to turn D&D into a Live Service Video Game of sorts. Because as James Steph (thank God for them) has shown us that this is a business model that guarantees infinite money.

    • @paultapping9510
      @paultapping9510 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yes. 100%. Just look at Beyond. Buying access to Skills one at a time? Ffs.

    • @razzledazzle6739
      @razzledazzle6739 ปีที่แล้ว

      A live service D&D just sounds like it'd work better as a D&D mmorpg, which already exists. That's probably just me misunderstanding what the heck makes a game live service though.

  • @ShadowsAndScience
    @ShadowsAndScience ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All of this stuff regarding Square Enix shuttering all of these games reminds me of a recurring thought line I keep having:
    How much of the future's lost media will exist not because it was actually "lost" but because whatever corporation owned the intellectual property rights decided that they no longer had a financial incentive to keep it around?

  • @PerpetualNoob
    @PerpetualNoob ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "The fox in the yen house." *slow clap* Well played.

    • @kneau
      @kneau ปีที่แล้ว

      *standing ovation*
      I'm having a slow day.

  • @JRay80
    @JRay80 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    James Stephanie, you've been banging the "it's just cosmetic" drum for years and years and years. You've been the tip of the spear on this one forever. Avengers was just so goddamn blatant. Anyway, hilarious edits and great commentary, my friend. Thank GOD, for you! Hope you're healing up and will be able to wrestle again soon!

    • @mikoto7693
      @mikoto7693 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well said. Thank god for them.

  • @SquackSpencer
    @SquackSpencer ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I still remember how awkward the reveal trailer "Meet the Avengers!" was. They hyped it like they were bringing the MCU cast to play the heroes, then they brought to the spotlights a bunch of unknowns (which, granted, some of them were probably known if you're into USA's VA scene).
    THAT was the moment I was like "Ooooh boy, this game smells of broken promises, better stay clear of it.".
    The roadmap right after only solidified my feelings.

    • @Sonichero151
      @Sonichero151 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You really expected Square to spend the billions it would have taken to use the faces of the actors from the massive gross profit making movies?

  • @weisenbergphoto
    @weisenbergphoto ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm surprised Steph didn't mention how WB and Rocksteady are inevitably going to make the same mistakes with their upcoming Suicide Squad game.

    • @jackcoleman1784
      @jackcoleman1784 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I've been telling people everywhere this since they unveiled Suicide Squad and noone wants to hear any of it.

  • @linkhidalgogato
    @linkhidalgogato ปีที่แล้ว +14

    i love the idea that square inex just doesnt remember outriders is still out there and thats the only reason it still exist.

  • @BeechcroftDowding
    @BeechcroftDowding ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Seeing how much fun you are having with these now is genuinely a bright spot I look forward to every week. The news is bad, but Steph? Steph's doing very very good, and we love to see it.

  • @smokeyeo
    @smokeyeo ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I was actually expecting a video about the tech layoffs but considering that's STILL happening and will probably require a longer script... well, this is already plenty and excellent

  • @mialemon6186
    @mialemon6186 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    One thing, it took me 26 years of my (admittedly cis) life to get a damn bra that fits. You're doing great!
    Also, what we call "sister sizes" that are one band size up or down and a cup size up and down actually have about the same cup volume (the important part). Depending on brand you might have three different sizes. I'm either an DD/E, F, or G. There's no such thing as a damned standard size it's a goddamn joke.
    They're still the same size though, so flaunt with pride.
    Thanks for coming to my useless bra Ted talk

    • @mattkuhn6634
      @mattkuhn6634 ปีที่แล้ว

      I swear that clothes for women is a conspiracy to keep you all so uncomfortable you can't overthrow the patriarchy. Jokes on them though, cuz we're gonna take it down from the INSIDE *lights molotov cocktail*

  • @christineherrmann205
    @christineherrmann205 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Also, I feel bad for all those employees who were told to make these live service, pay to win nightmares, and what will happen to them post-acquisitions. I sorta hope we end up with a ton of small indie studios again, and programmers working on their own game ideas.

    • @gwen9939
      @gwen9939 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Crystal Dynamics is clearly a competent studio. The Guardians of the Galaxy game that followed was actually solid with better combat and writing all around, and microtransactions were a thing entirely separate from the gameplay unlike Avengers where it's literally multiple in-game NPCs selling you junk. Same with Babylon's fall. We know Platinum can make great games when they're able to, but as soon as Square is involved they're barely a shadow of their best selves.

  • @legomaniac213
    @legomaniac213 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    As your former colleague would say: "Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything, tee hee hee!!"

    • @MH-hu5pi
      @MH-hu5pi ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's right!
      On both counts

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 ปีที่แล้ว

      But then thats just capitalism :(. i hope ther can b learned

  • @tenyokensekia8088
    @tenyokensekia8088 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    With your closing line: "The fox in the yen house" (really good line, I like that one) I'm just imagining a Anthropomorphic fox dressed up like Goemon, just walking into Square Enix HQ and just grabbing loads of yen and stuffing them in a bag. And nobody can see him because they are all focused on the wall instead of whats outside the wall. Does that analogue work? I'm not great at them.

    • @goodpeople25
      @goodpeople25 ปีที่แล้ว

      I understood it was an analogy even though you said analogue so I think if an autocorrect/typo that was after the actual analogy was the most off-putting part to me you're good.

    • @tenyokensekia8088
      @tenyokensekia8088 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goodpeople25 Actually, I just didn't know how to spell Analogy to be honest!

  • @jellyface401
    @jellyface401 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it me, or does "Jim" Looks Happier than ever?
    I'm Glad.!

  • @kexiusfray9950
    @kexiusfray9950 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I’ve never been this early but
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ETERNAL FIGHT AGAINST MICROTRANSACTIONS ♥️♥️♥️

    • @TheAxeLord47911
      @TheAxeLord47911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @colebennetofficialll Piss off, bot. Couldn't even get the name right.

    • @TheNefastor
      @TheNefastor ปีที่แล้ว

      @colebennetofficialll nobody gives a shit about that guy.

  • @probablythedm1669
    @probablythedm1669 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    A new video from Steph and dad just called to say surgery went well and he's been cured of cancer. It's a good day! 😄

    • @yukaiyami
      @yukaiyami ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Congratulations!! That’s fantastic news!

    • @Irisedpig
      @Irisedpig ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hell yeah!! That's wonderful ♡

    • @NFM1337
      @NFM1337 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow, that's amazing!

    • @LexYeen
      @LexYeen ปีที่แล้ว

      Hell yeah for kicking cancer's ass! Tell your dad that the internet is stoked for him.

    • @TransientWitch
      @TransientWitch ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, don't leave us in suspense...
      You're Definitely the DM now, right??

  • @stephenwakeman3074
    @stephenwakeman3074 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like that the gameplay reel has the mission “sabotage the servers”. No need guys, they’re just going to turn ‘em off!

  • @keremozturk4134
    @keremozturk4134 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved the editing this time even more than usual! Well done, Incredible work!

  • @ShadeOfDead
    @ShadeOfDead ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise. Honestly I expected it earlier. But then, like you Stephanie, I forgot about the game.

  • @RosaHernandez-ql8nu
    @RosaHernandez-ql8nu ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Thank you James Stephanie sterling for your integrity as a reporter with regard to the bust size correction it was definitely the most important correction and I imagine one if the most difficult and scary things that could be reported on. Bravo! True ethics in gaming journalism right here folks. 11/10

  • @mirrorocean
    @mirrorocean ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The editing on this channel is just *chef’s kiss*

  • @EdyGlockenspiel
    @EdyGlockenspiel ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I never even know what day of the week it is until these get uploaded with me never going to sleep at the same time or getting up at the same time every day. Or those times I sleep for 24 hours at a time. If it wasn't for you, Steph I literally wouldn't know that today is in fact Monday.

  • @DomyTheMad420
    @DomyTheMad420 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "it actually WAS supported for yearS"
    *proceeds to explain how that is technically true*
    *me just laughing constantly at this bit*
    classic.

  • @devilmikey00
    @devilmikey00 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ok, the Tamagotchi ad with doom noises made me giggle more than it should.
    The thing that blows my mind is that despite this nonstop cavalcade of failure from SE over the last few years, their stock between 2020-2022 is the highest it's been since the turn of the century. Like, at some point failing this hard for this long has to have a consequence right? The whole company can't continue to exist on the back of FFVIIR and FFIXV while the rest of it is just SE throwing NFT's at wall.

    • @MrSoopSA
      @MrSoopSA ปีที่แล้ว

      FF7R is keeping Square Enix’s stock prices on life support the most, IMO. I’m sure they make bank from FF14, and the FF series in general sell well, but FF7 has always been the goose that laid the golden egg for them. Issue is nothing else comes close, ain’t nobody clamoring for more Marvel’s Avengers or the Mana series or even any other FF title like they do for FF7.

  • @GreenEarth20
    @GreenEarth20 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The Doom Tamagotchi edit was a masterpiece.

  • @EmeraldLavigne
    @EmeraldLavigne ปีที่แล้ว +3

    13:18
    Remember when Bill Hicks opened one of his specials with like almost 10 minutes sincerely telling anyone who works in advertising to off themselves?
    I miss him.

  • @DrAnarchy69
    @DrAnarchy69 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I’d love to hear JS Sterling’s opinions on Microsoft’s massive layoffs and specifically the ongoing failure of Halo Infinite’s live service model.

    • @jadedheartsz
      @jadedheartsz ปีที่แล้ว

      eh Infinite's not really a failure per se, it got great reviews and sold well enough.

    • @Phoenix2312
      @Phoenix2312 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh I am sure they will do a video later this week about that!

    • @daryno9048
      @daryno9048 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want to hear their opinion on MS trying to acquire Activision after all of the news that came out about them

    • @jackswanson7742
      @jackswanson7742 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that'd be a good one.

  • @SuperRodimusPrime
    @SuperRodimusPrime ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The real surprise comes from how long it took for the game to get to this point.

  • @benhensley3621
    @benhensley3621 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love a good post-mortem episode, and this sure is a called shot.

  • @weisenbergphoto
    @weisenbergphoto ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The disastrous commercial performance of Marvel's Avengers is also partially why we might never get a sequel to Eidos Montreal's Guardians of the Galaxy, a game that I really liked.

  • @scaper12123
    @scaper12123 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Square be slaying its games while Steph be slaying her looks. You’re doing amazing!

    • @pnksounds
      @pnksounds ปีที่แล้ว +5

      literally thinking the same thing

    • @fredwood6107
      @fredwood6107 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      So true! (Also, they use they/them pronouns just so you know for next time. 👍)

  • @TheAxeLord47911
    @TheAxeLord47911 ปีที่แล้ว +333

    I'd genuinely say I'm "surprised", but that'd be a disingenuous assertion to make with these kinds of wannabe cash-cows.
    As Steph has said repeatedly on this show, "companies don't want just money, they want ALL of the money". They won't settle for an ethical, stable income that increases in the long-run through consumer trust, even though they should, because they'd rather humiliate themselves a 100 times with a 100 scammy failures for the chance of getting that 1 game that gives them "all the money". In a way, Square-Enix was just playing loot boxes to get that one game they wanted, even after they discarded thousands of people's money and effort for it. This is what capitalism has boiled down to.
    *_NEVER_* forget what these companies want. There's a reason why even the one's that I genuinely like -- Nintendo, Atlus and Sega -- I'm still willing to take the piss out of them, precisely to prevent them from getting on level to Squeenix.
    Thank God for you, Steph!

    • @jamesrule1338
      @jamesrule1338 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I remember when Braverly Default first came out and SQUEEnix was shocked that a back to basics turned based RPG was as popular and sold well. It was at that moment I knew they were lost.

    • @luketfer
      @luketfer ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Wow that's...actually an apt metaphor, the whole 'Squeenix just playing loot boxes' angle. Yeah they're just trying to gamble on getting 'the next game'.
      Meanwhile the game that is propping up the company at this point, FF14, seems to get largely left alone purely because the lead designer is also one of the higher ranking members of the company and even HE has to answer to the 'monetization people' who decide what should and shouldn't go into the cash shop (which is entirely seperate from the design team according to him, the monetization people say "oh we should have X type of cosmetic in the cash shop for X event" and then pass that along to the designers to make).

    • @AbsoluteSkycaptain
      @AbsoluteSkycaptain ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I agree with everything except genuinely liking Nintendo.
      What an absolute dumpster fire of a company.

    • @benedictrogers1478
      @benedictrogers1478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Atlus, which at this point we should admit is a sub-brand of Sega, is interesting because some of their biggest disappointments stem from seemingly trying to make better games. Or rereleased I suppose, but everybody I know who expected the rerelease of P3P to just be P3P has been completely fine with what was delivered/
      Not that I don't expect a Persona Online at some point though. But at least that cash cow is currently being milked honestly.

    • @TheAxeLord47911
      @TheAxeLord47911 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@AbsoluteSkycaptain I totally get not liking Nintendo, but I personally do, because as a Fire Emblem fan they *really* have yet to disappoint me. Nevermind the fact that just about all of their products (especially Mario and Zelda) are top-notch polish sans Pokémon (which I truthfully blame TPC more for, given it's a joint share consolidated into a single company than any one of the shares having power). NOT saying they're perfect or *anyone's* friend (how Nintendo goes nuclear with fangames is proof of that, alongside their shit policy with emulation), but to me they're too _weird_ with their toy maker's approach to games to necessarily be outright evil, especially when said toy maker approach has proven with as many upsides (extremely high quality standards for their games) as they do downsides (guards IP as viciously as Games Workshop, a far worse company in my book but still worth the comparison).
      Again, not defending them, I just think they have a *far* better track record compared to something like Squeenix, so it's why I'm willing to tolerate the Big N by comparison. A company should only be acceptable if the transaction goes both ways, and there's benefits to the *customer* than said customer being seen as a *consumer* or such. See Jim Sterling's video on "I Hate The Word 'Consumer'" for more info on that.

  • @riddypr
    @riddypr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have to say, I do appreciate hearing the Grange Hill theme in this video. Classic stuff.

  • @mimielleuse
    @mimielleuse ปีที่แล้ว +4

    lmao, the doom-agotchi achieved me, in tears !

    • @Gledster
      @Gledster ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. Genius idea.

  • @joschisaurus182
    @joschisaurus182 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    22:33 (volume warning) the interaction between you and Pheonix was really adorable, thank you for keeping it in the video. after watching yet another frustrating Jimquisition on Squeenix this brightened my mood a lot.

    • @joschisaurus182
      @joschisaurus182 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      also at 11:00 this remix was fantastic, well done Justin

  • @V0idedOut-E33
    @V0idedOut-E33 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The search for immortality kills. The best part is that it always ends up as a petulant wet fart of a death too.

  • @atlantiswolf
    @atlantiswolf ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No joke, I heard about the Microsoft layoffs and thought that was going to be the episode this week. I imagine we'll get more stories from people inside or formerly a part of Microsoft in the coming week, so theres still plenty of time for that.

  • @1IGG
    @1IGG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol the Doom noises over the tamagotchi footage was effing funny.

  • @Jackalblade9
    @Jackalblade9 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I really, really fear for Final Fantasy 14 at this point. The game's never been especially fun for me, but it's got such a robust, healthy and friendly community around it, and it's a community treated with something vaguely resembling respect by the devs. If Squenix decides it's "undermonetized", all of that good will is going to burn...

  • @assanchop1574
    @assanchop1574 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I saw all of this coming when the horse armor DLC in Oblivion made bank. Hell, as soon as the internet wriggled it's tendrils into gaming this was an inevitably...

  • @2kool4skool6734
    @2kool4skool6734 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Loved your point about ff14 at the end. It's what I've felt for a while and why I've been actively enjoying it right now as I see it like it's in a temporary "golden age". I fear/know that at some unknown point in the future, Square Enix will start muscling in on the development team to do who knows what. The second it stops being a cash cow

  • @Matizicov
    @Matizicov ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The B-roll of the rta bus downtown from me got a double take. You truly pull these clips from anywhere for almost any reason.🙂

  • @JoseRuiz-yh2eh
    @JoseRuiz-yh2eh ปีที่แล้ว +18

    0:37 Actually, from now on, every time I play any game that has DK as an option, I’m gonna pick him just to say “DK is in, this is going to be bananas”

    • @kneau
      @kneau ปีที่แล้ว +1

      B A N A N A S

  • @MoondropValley
    @MoondropValley ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love your YTP segments ☺️
    Glad you got a proper fitting bra. Those things are life-changing when they are comfy

  • @PrismaticAngel
    @PrismaticAngel ปีที่แล้ว

    Must say I didn't know that "Tamagotchi commercial with Doom monsters SFX" was a thing I needed, yet here it is.

  • @animosity9197
    @animosity9197 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so glad you opened this video talking about how good your jumper is, the very first thing I thought when you came on screen was "omg I love that sweater"

  • @christineherrmann205
    @christineherrmann205 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The editing around 11:30 is _legendary._ Bravo.

    • @gamewrit0058
      @gamewrit0058 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👏👏👏👏👏

    • @MH-hu5pi
      @MH-hu5pi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We need to know who's responsible for this bit

  • @Zetasphere
    @Zetasphere ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The more I learn, the more astonished I am that Final Fantasy XIV exists as it does. Someone please get Yoshida Naoki some help! The man (and his teams) are carrying the entire company.

  • @zach-rac
    @zach-rac ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I laughed SO hard when I saw the title of this.... After I remembered the game even existed.
    Thank the gods for you Jim Stephanie Sterling~!! 💞💞

  • @seraphinw1
    @seraphinw1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always comforting when a publisher considers not including a pay to win scheme for a premium game to be an earth-shaking announcement

    • @Feasco
      @Feasco ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the bar: so low you have to dig for it

  • @JackXombi
    @JackXombi ปีที่แล้ว +17

    HOW AM I LAUGHING SO HARD ABOUT DOUBLE D BREASTS!? I don't even give a shit about Square Enix's anything at this point, but god damn you're fun to watch. Thanks :)

    • @Lectrikfro
      @Lectrikfro ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How can you resist the schadenfreude of Sqeenix being profitable if it hadn't been for the live service games though?

    • @michimatsch5862
      @michimatsch5862 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because Double D Breasts.

  • @thomasgiles2876
    @thomasgiles2876 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Square Enix has become the Konami of video games

  • @matthewboehler2540
    @matthewboehler2540 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man this was a great episode. Also thanks for the good news DA4 is going to be singleplayer, never knew there could have been live service elements in it.

  • @c2gsovermind
    @c2gsovermind ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I walked away from the computer for a minute, then all i could hear were the DOOM sounds. I giggled heartily, thank you! also, SHAMELESS!

  • @withhazelnuts2108
    @withhazelnuts2108 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'm so glad you didn't lose Jim on the way, much love!

  • @daryno9048
    @daryno9048 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hearing all of these terrible things about live service games really does make me concern about PS future as Jim Ryan have consistently mention that he want more live service games and have their studios working on them.

    • @paultapping9510
      @paultapping9510 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      consoles are a lost cause and a sinking ship, get out while you can!

  • @konradzukowski213
    @konradzukowski213 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The first thing I thought when I've heard Avengers is getting closed was "How did it not happen sooner?"

  • @monsterislandradio
    @monsterislandradio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the only video required to dissuade any from ever even thinking about dropping a penny into any more live service trash. Surely this has to be an end to this bullshit?
    Great video JSS

  • @ALWTunes
    @ALWTunes ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The silver lining in all this is that Dragon Age has a chance to be good now.

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Again! Hopefully.

  • @AphroditesCrush
    @AphroditesCrush ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Square Enix had the Infinity Gauntlet and then…….SNAPPED

  • @idealirreal
    @idealirreal ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder if there will be always people like jim, or if when our generation dies, people will forget how real games are, as nobody will remember old games to criticize the flaws in corporative monetization.

  • @Aogami20
    @Aogami20 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    man do you remember when Squaresoft and Enix were the darlings of game development, pumping out the best single-player experiences year after year?

  • @raistlinmajere7149
    @raistlinmajere7149 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    That Smash Bros commercial felt like a fever dream

  • @livelongandtroll9108
    @livelongandtroll9108 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *Thank God for those huge...tracts of land... whatever their size is.*

  • @Morgannin
    @Morgannin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is much like Netflix's reflexive cancellation of any original series that doesn't bring in big numbers: you're ensuring that nobody will get invested, because they're going to assume it's gonna get cancelled and never be worth getting into. As a result, they'll only perform worse and worse.
    Although in this case that's probably a good thing, because it may help this entire concept of Live Service games bite the dust for good.

  • @Interesting_Failure
    @Interesting_Failure ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This has become much funnier to me since I started playing Phantasy Star Online II (the original, not New Genesis) which doesn't receive content updates at all but still maintains a robust community.
    Probably because the game is actually fun to play in a vacuum and when it WAS being updated the focus was on actually adding new content and stuff that improved it...