Elden Ring and the Seven Deadly Sins
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2023
- The Seven Deadly Sins is a concept that I think most of us are familiar with by now. The 7 sins are, in no particular order: Sloth, Gluttony, Lust, Envy, Greed, Wrath, and Pride. It's a common trope to try and insert these sins into media now, but I have a theory, that these 7 sins are very clearly represented in Elden Ring.
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You forgot the 8th deadly sin, Florida
Hm facts
Florida, AKA Caleid
@@dumpykonglive in Florida can confirm
Weeping peninsula
No that's just hell
It can be argued that Malenia is pride, or at least was pride. Milicent did mention how she tossed away her pride when she unleashed the scarlet rot. Also, she seems to take great pride in being "Malenia, Blade of Miquella" and not "Malenia, Goddess of Rot." Why else would she feel the need to tell you each time she kills you over and over and over and over and over again?
this was definitely my prediction upon starting the video
Canonically speaking, the tarnished never dies while we play as it and it's out first time encounter one another so it's just formality to inform one on who they are
No she's definitely delusional or her memory is slowly getting erased by the scarlet rot so she keeps repeating her name as to not forget it.
I do agree that Malenia should be pride. She's not showing any sort of anger, her combat moves are precise and she'd rather release the Scarlet Rot cursing the entirety of Caelid then risk loosing the Battle against Radahn, risk loosing her "never known defeat" status. Also a lot of the time Pride is usually depicted as the most powerful of sins like in FullMetal Alchemist. Dragon Age series also depicts Pride demons as the strongest of the sin related bunch, and Malenia Is a superendgame boss.
On the other hand it's not that easy to relate Wrath to Radahn as we don't know much about how he used to be. He is a pretty angry big boss now though.
In my opinion, Malenia bloomed the first time due to pride. She was Malenia, an undefeated swordsman.
Her whole life she struggles against her curse and this is the one purpose she has. Every bit of self worth she has is pinned on her ability with the sword. Her reputation, ability to protect her brother, to lead an army.
I believe she bloomed to keep her pride, and I love the irony that the very thing she trained to keep her rot in check leads to its release.
Love the video, and this fits really well. I always envisioned it as:
Rykard: Gluttony
Godrick: Greed
Rennala: Sloth
Mohg: Lust
Morgott: Envy
Malenia: Pride
Rhadan: Wrath
This is the correct assignment of the sins, the video got it completely wrong imo
Honestly my thoughts exactly. These all fit way better than what’s said in the video.
Yeah! A way better break down of sin to shard bearer.
@@ronaldobaci3188I was honestly thinking this the moment he covered Godrick. He isn’t lazy, he desperately and obsessively tries to be strong and prove himself capable as a demigod, which is the opposite of sloth. He didn’t even get the lore right, Godrick was hounded from Leyndell, forcefully kicked out, he never wanted to leave. Got his character terribly wrong
That's exactly what I was thinking too
"No one is trying to bone you mid-fight, i mean melania gets naked but thats not an invitation". One of the best lines i have heard. 7:12
I mean, Rennala keeps saying "come" in her second phase
@@duck7025she’s saying it to everyone but you
@@SorowFameOw 😭
It isn't an invitation to the cowardly, the rotussy calls only to the brave, and I have never known fear.
@@JudgeNicodemusMake sure to keep flame cleanse me at the ready
The game flat out tells you "radagon is marika" if you use the incantation law of regression in front of the statue with the message *regression reveals all" in pre ashen leyndell
Not to mention you see the transformation in the fight cutscene
everyone knows that radagon is marika, the big question is, was radagon always marika? or were they fused later on? personally i belive that they were always the same person but this is just me
@@jade-chan9122Never understood that doubt tbh, if Radagon was another person before joining Marika, how the hell are Rykard, Radahn and Ranni (an empyrean candidate no less) demigods?
@@EldenRingBuildsArchive maybe due to their immense power?
unsure too, but yes i also do belive that he was the same person as marika, it would make more sense like you said
@@EldenRingBuildsArchive The were risen to the status of Demigods through Marika becoming their step-mother basically.
I would watch the whole video but right now I'm busy committing the 8th deadly sin (panic rolling)
Jk it is a really good video though lol
Felt that
Not panic rolling, the true 8th deadly sin is fat rolling
@@user-lc9mm6zq2kboth?
@@user-lc9mm6zq2kblocking with a weapon is the real 8th deadly sin
Spongebob being Lust is crazy
SpongeBob is lust cause of a lust for life, according to the theory
Strong desire to live and have fun doing it _Shrug_
Lust can mean "passionate desire" and Spongebob is passionate about practically everything.
Ppl thinking lust is only sexual is crazy
@@m.r3052read the dictionary
@@taitherapper4949 words can have more than one meaning
This actually gave me some inspiration to create characters based on the sins
I feel you, I've been writing a book for some years that uses this premise, so any media or content with this concept I use as an ispiration as well.
Yeah those usually turn out pretty cool, make sure to make at 1 just some chill dude
wow cool idea .. maybe 1 character to embody all 7.. got me pondering
Good inspiration but take care and do not make the characters shallow, by making the sins their only characteristics.
I think Morgott doesnt envy his father, but the Tarnished as a whole. It implied that Godfrey is somewhat of an Abraham of The Lands Between, he was said to be the first tarnished after all and spread around the overall world of Elden Ring. Then we have Enia telling us that the Two Fingers are displeased with the Demi--Gods and are now turning their gaze towards the Tarnished. Morgott wanted to be given the chance that the Tarnished we're granted, but he couldnt bring himself to burn down the tree, that would be high treason and sacriledge. Tragedy comes from the nature of a character and that is Morgott, he just couldn't, loved it he did despite never been loved back.
This is why Morgott makes me cry. (And also you make a good point).
To be fair he may not have known that burning the Erdtree was necessary to pierce Radagon's brambles sealing the doors. He may have simply tried entering, found himself unable to despite being very powerful and holding a great rune, and determined if he couldn't at this point then nobody could.
@@kylegonewildi also find it quite likely that he accepted his inability of passage so eagerly based on his preconceptions of himself as a lesser, unfitting being from birth.
He’s not a tarnished, he’s a member of the royal family
@@iinfrunamii.Na i reckon morgott knew he never would be allowed to enter since he has no maiden and maidens are required as kindling to burn the thorns of the erdtree
Radahn was also holding back all of those stars while essentially brain dead, can you imagine just how powerful prime radahn with his brain unrotted and his body intact was
That's why so many people are hoping time travel is involved in the upcoming DLC
Tarnished: "I've beaten you before."
Radahn: "Congratulations. You've beaten a half brain dead animal whittled down by a flesh eating virus and occupied with holding back the stars. You've beaten me when I was hurt. You've beaten me when I was hungry, cornered, stupid, and weak.
Can you beat me when I'm READY?"
@@kingsadvisor18that's assuming alot
Even in a fantastical world like Elden Ring, brain rot is still a huge problem.
Not really evidence is he got bodied at his prime by Morgot who didn't even need his sword, failed to actually beat Godrick, and worked with Mohg to lure the increasingly weak Malenia into a stacked battle on his turf complete with getting help from his big brother, and still lost, Radahn is a Rommel a competent person elevated to godhood by propaganda,
"This man is skateboarding a horse while holding up the stars and killing everybody he comes into contact with, and he does it all *from the hospice."*
I think I would actually switch Renala and Godrick. After separating from Radagon she cannot bring herself to do a thing. Godrick lusts after the powers the other shard bearers possess and actively orders his servants to bring things to him to graft, the dragon being a recent acquisition. Rather than sit around and do nothing as Renala does he is actively but very slowly gathering power to himself. But thats just my two cents. The rest seem rather spot on.
I’d further switch godrick with mohg, making godrick greed and mohg lust. For one “greedy godrick” is too funny to ignore. And mohg should be lust for… pretty obvious egg-shaped reasons
@@mysteriousstranger5873 I can see the argumentation for it. On further inspection I'd also change Malenia and Radahn as Pride fits Malenia a bit better "I have never known defeat" even though she factually had to retreat from Radahn making it a defacto loss. And of course Radahn being pure wrath at this point attacking unblinkingly and consuming enemies and allies alike.
@alucardwesker6807 You are right. Remember, this is a japanese game made by japanese developers. In japanese pop culture the sin of wrath is understood as less about anger and more about violence. Radahn, in his maddened state, is definitely the most violent of the shard bearers; lashing out at friend and foe. Melania as an empyrean, goddess, strongest swordsman, and arguably hardest boss, stands on top. True she is subservient to Miquella, but her loyalty to him is its own form pride, bushido. She is metaphorically a samurai who takes great pride in her loyalty to her vassal lord, Miquella.
@@mysteriousstranger5873
Godrick- Greed
Renala- Sloth
Radahn- Wrath
Rykard- Glutonny
Mohg- Lust
Morgott- Envy
Melania- Pride
@@RealLifeIronMan I wholey agree
My guess going into this
Godrick: Greed, grafting, greedy for power (could also be envy for his grafting being a result of envy of the demigods power)
Malenia: Pride. This feels like a stretch but I feel like it fits better than any other. maybe she holds back the rot goddess in her vain perception of her own strength, and also out of pride for her brother
Mohg: Lust, for power and his gateway to power bring the... Stuff he wants with miquella
Morgott: Envy of the other demigods not being a castout of the golden order he loves
Radahn: wrath This is the biggest stretch, maybe wrath against the carians he was once allied with, then her held back the stars partly so as to diminish there strength
Rennala: sloth, having lost everything, she wallows in despair, slowing making sweetlings as a comfort habit.
Rykard: Gluttony CONSUME THE WORLD
This comment is correct. I would have used different, more elaborate detailed explanations, but the order is still accurate. The video mixes them up a bit.
This was my take, too.
Exactly, of course Mohg is lust
@@obscure_genesis How does this video mix it up?
I don't think Malenia as Pride is a stretch at all... she is constantly bragging about how she has never known defeat.
Oh, I get it. Radahn is pride, like a lion.
Just like Escanor.
Cannot believe I missed the connection, holy shit
is he really any more prideful than the others? I feel like pride is a sin anyone who claims to be a demi god is drowning in, that said, the pride motif along with red hair ect is fun, and the pride required to conquer the stars is mighty. But i feel its less him being more prideful in comparison, its just he was the strongest in comparison and knew it.
The biggest symbol of pride he shows is the subconscious usage of holding back the stars and protecting Leonard whilst he was going crazy from god cancer. The biggest external show is the pride everyone else has in him.
All the demigods have the same pride ingrained in them, its just his power let him take it the furthest. The pride of a lion is more obvious than the pride of a fox.
@@dumpykong I think he would be envy because he's like obsessed with Godfrey just my opinion
I would say malenia fits the pride spot way more, that's basically her whole character. That she's prideful and a little in denial
There's some speculations that Malenia went to fight Radahn to "unlock" the skies and, through it, allow an eclipse to happen - which would then allow Miquella to either revive or permanently kill Godwyn (some stuff in Castle Sol give credence to that).
And that Radahn was holding back the stars to prevent more Astels from crashing into the Lands Between (one Astel is even named "stars of darkness", and some descriptions imply it _is_ a star, iirc), one of which was apparently routed to destroy Selia, a town he was very fond of. So both had very high stakes in that fight (which makes it much sadder to see both end up worse after it).
I do agree with the comments who mention Malenia being closer to pride than wrath (though I believe she calls herself "the blade of Miquella" over and over to _remind herself_ of who she is, more than for being proud of it), but Radahn fits it all the more.
Great video nonetheless. When I saw the title, I thought you were trying some kind of "seven deadly sins playthrough", as in, beat the bosses using skills/weapons that might represent each sin
You don't need stars to create an eclipse, only sun and moon
Also in ranni's questline, it's made clear that the stars hold the fate of the carian royal, radahn's motivation or at least one of his motivations was to prevent the fate of his family and thus engaged the stars in battle and saved his family
@ashjose7973 There's two moons visible at the Cathedral of Manus Celes, and nowhere else. Ranni has a whole moon theme going around her, and maybe she needed the power from that second moon to kill the Fingers. Perhaps that second moon was also unavailable due to Radahn's tampering. He locked out the entire sky, not just the stars. Nothing in the sky changes position until you kill him.
Remember that Ranni's fate is to replace Marika as the Outer Will's main representative, and she doesn't want to. She needs to unlock the skies to defy her fate, not to fulfill it. Killing the Two Fingers is akin to a puppet killing its puppeteer and still living afterwards. Her goal isn't exactly easy.
There's a ghost in castle Sol lamenting that their predicted eclipse never happened, and it could've been precisely due to Radahn's actions.
Sure, Ranni needed Radahn dead, but I'm proposing that she wasn't the only one who did, and that Malenia had decent reasons for it.
@@ashjose7973 And would you like to remind me what the sun is?
@Fafniiir tbf the sun still moves normally in elden ring
@@NickMorales-wy3zh you mean the earth rotation ????
I'd argue that Godrick fits for Greed way more than for Sloth. He spends all his time gathering and amassing things to graft and increase his power. All so he could be equal to others of his kind. When he grafts the dragon all he cares about is approval of his line(Forefathers, one and all... bear witness!), especially from Godfrey(Great Godfrey, did'st thou witness?).
On the other hand the one who is assosiated with Sloth in my mind is Morgott. Sloth isn't exactly laziness, it's a refusal to take action, resistance to changes, preventing others from doing something and keep things the way they are causing stagnation. And this is exactly what Morgott does, he hunts tarnished, fights the player three times, prevents them from reaching frenzied flame and mountaintops, all with one goal - to keep things the way they are. He failed and gave up, so in his mind there's no hope and no reason to try anymore. "Put these foolish ambitions to rest", "thy deeds shall be met with failure, just as I".
Also his title of “godrick the golden”
I'm not sure Malenia set out *before* Miquella was kidnapped. By her dialogue -- "I dreamt for so long. Corpse after corpse left in my wake, as I awaited his return..."
It sort of implies Miquella was kidnapped, *then* she, perhaps enraged and lost to a fugue state, set out to whom she believed may have kidnapped him. If she wasn't doing just that -- why wouldn't she take the great rune from the helpless Renala, or the pitiful Godrick? She went to Radahn with a specific purpose in mind, and that purpose can't have been great runes.
true but if she was ay the haligtree when miquella was kidnapped how tf did mohg pull that off without getting absolutely annihilated
@@snakebiteonblitzmalenia is blind so he just crouch-walked
@@snakebiteonblitzshe was blind, half dead, and in a coma
If it's true then Malenia almost actually retrieved Miquella because Mohguin palace is directly below Caelid. Which means that she somehow tracked down his general direction but might not have noticed/known that he was in the underground, potentially assuming that Radahn(the nearest visible demigod) might've had some involvement with his dissappearance.
As far as I know she went to kill Radahn at Miquella's request. Radahn is holding back Miquella's fate (as well as Ranni's) by holding back the stars. For Miquella to continue his new Erdtree he needed Radahn dead so his fate could happen. In game after we kill Radahn, Ranni can fulfill her fate and bring about the age of stars. Presumably Miquella was kidnapped either during her battle with Radahn, or sometime after when Finlay was taking her back to the Haligtree.
I LOVE Mohg and Morgott so much, and i wish more people gave them the love they deserve.
Morgott and Mohg, inherently, symbolise two different responses to abuse. Morgott is desperate to prove that he didnt deserve it while Mohg is desperate to userp his abusers. I honestly think Mohg and Morgott are the most depthful of the demigods
To add to this excellent point, it's obviously a lot easier to feel like Morgott was the good brother of the two, in that his designs didn't involve kidnapping, the ruination of a very promising new world and possibly incitement of a battle that nuked a country, but Morgott's coping mechanism is still equally destructive to Mohg's, just in subtler ways. His whole lordship of Leyndell is predicated on the lie that Morgott, the Veiled Monarch, and Margit, the Fell Omen, leader of the royal guard, are separate people, because if anyone ever lived to find out, he'd be ousted by the very people he wants to protect for nothing more than what ultimately amounts to a birth defect he has. Leyndell is built on an foundation of civility and order, but they're as bigoted as anyone else when the chips are down. Morgott is ultimately perpetuating a system that, were he not cunning enough to circumvent it with his dual identity, would still have him locked in a sewer like a rat for the rest of his life, his parentage be damned, his contributions to keeping the Golden Order alive forgotten in an instant, just for being 'born wrong'. And this is just talking about Morgott himself, not even touching on the dogma that he inherited keeping countless other Omens in their squalid exile. Yeah, Mohg is going about his own plan in the absolute worst, if the most strictly pragmatic, way he can, but it's still trying, in Mohg's own effed up way, to change things for something approximate to the better at its core, because the current system is inherently unjust in a way the Fell Twins know all too well. They are both hurt people who coped with their abuse in completely opposite ways, and while Morgott may seem more noble on the surface, his insistence upon keeping the status quo, even when it would condemn him and others like him to a hellish fate, is no less flawed than Mohg's overly radical desire to tear the whole system down.
Sorry to burst your head canon but Morgott isint desperate to prove others wrong about himself.
Morgott despises himself and sees himself as Impure and follows to this day Golden Orders Teachings. Why do you think Omen are still locked away in the sewers? Why do you think the Omen Killers are on his pay roll?
Morgott agrees with Golden Orders views on him and other cursed, however his stockholm syndrome is causing him to still think its rightful.
I love mohg but only as a daddy, no other way.
Yeah, regardless of his past, mogh forsaked himself and any love he deserved when he stole miquella
I thought Lust would be Mogh, since he did want to bone his brother Miquella. He's pretty obsessed with becoming the consort to an Empyrean to ensure the coming of his *desired* dynasty, so it'd make a lot of sense for him to represent that sin.
Also a quick correction, Renala didn't gift the golden sword to Radagon, she gifted a Moon Greatsword that later Radagom himself reforged into the Golden Order Greatsword
I don't think Mogh loves Miquela like a person that you love its more of Mogh love's Miquela because Miquela is gonna be Moghs key for his era .
@@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051 Which is precisely what lust is, empty desire due to superficial reasons. He didn't love Miquela, he lusted after Miquela's potential.
He doesn't want to bone his brother, stop watching so many ai sketches
@@IchCharacterhe didn't love his brother, he wanted to use him to fulfill his selfish desires
Also Mohgs whole Blood lord arc started from him being finaly loved by someone. The formless mother. He also offers Love to all acording ro Varre so theres more evidence.
Also its not stated anywhere that Mohg boned Miquella. Its stated he Shared his Blood Bed chambers with him but that could mean he simply slept in the cocoon or that he boned him. We dong know. Tho granted the Branch does mention Miquella having a Constant aura that makes people love him so mayby mohgs under Miquellas spell.
Kinda thought lust would go to Mohg for well, obvious reasons, but this goes so in depth into the lore and made complete sense. Another banger Dumpy!
There's a lot wrong in the video, especially when covering Godrick. Lust does fit Mohg perfectly as well, not Rennala. There's a lot of misinterpretations in the video as well for the sins.
@@metaforeva3744mohg doesn't list for his brother, he wants to use him to fulfill his own selfish desires of power. Rennala went in a state of grief obsessing over her husband radogon
@@Devilspade true however Mohg serves Formless Mother because she *Loves* his cursed blood and Mohg Promises for everyone who follows him *Love*
Also Mohg embraced or should i say *Loved* his omen blood.
So Lust seems way more in line with him than Greed.
@@Devilspade Exactly why lust fits Mogh perfectly. Lust as a sin has nothing to do with love. It is all about selfish desire. Mogh is lusting for power, he desperately wants to have a mighty kindom for himself. His desire for Miquela is not because of love, but because by becoming his brother's consort, he might reach his ultimate wish. And he would use his brother to get what he wants.
Rennala, on the other hand, became totally apathetic after Radagon left her. She stopped living, instead spending the time after their seperation in a slumber. Sloth is much more than just being lazy. In this case Rennala represents sloth by being the headmaster unable to fight her dispirited mind. And instead withdrew herself in the school's library cradling her egg like a baby, while Raya Lucaria was crumbling around her.
Spongebob: Lust. 🤨
If you re-contextualize the sins in relation to the Golden Order, it might go more like this:
Pride - Malenia and Miquella building a new order in defiance of the established
Lust - Morgott desperate to be embraced
Greed - Mogh wanting to usurp the ascension of an empyrean, straight to the top, even by stealing it in the chaos of war
Envy - Godrick desperately envious of anything perceived as more powerful, despite being a demigod
Sloth - Rennala the original meaning of sloth was being insufficiently devoted to god, usually leveled against women
Gluttony - Radahn any means to get what he wants, even using gravity magic just to keep his horse (gaunt and emaciated to call attention to the disparity), then obv the cannibalism
Wrath - Rykard was the wrath of the Golden Order, then the avatar of wrath intended for the Golden Order.
Archetypes are everywhere
This was absolutely amazing. I’ve never actually played the game, but this made me feel like I know it so well now. You’re incredible!.
Do it dude.
You should play it
before watching the video
Godrick - greed "I will bathe in rays of gold"
Renalla - sloth "she sits the entire fight untill she cant"
Morgot - envy "he was born with a curse making him unable to be king until the kingdom is desperate"
Radahn - wrath "the rot has made him attack anyone friend or foe"
Rykard - gluttony "he eats people to gain their power"
Mohg - lust "lets move on"
Malenia - pride "she is Malenia blade of miquela"
This is the correct take
@@jakesteinberg5902buzz off, radahns rot is literally malenia's and she gives in to her destructive, chaotic powers even under miquela because of her wrath and anger. How is using the power of others to get what you want not sloth? Godrick has ambitions yes but he doesn't work for any of them, he doesn't seek improvement he just wants his power in the way that takes the least effort. Renala obsession over her husband drove her into a deep depression, before that she pioneered a new way of magic and became the queen of her little Harry Potters school she has going. Mohg doesn't want to bone his brother that's a common lie told, he wants to use his brothers powers to fulfill his own vision of power even his whimpering when he dies sounds like a spoiled kid going "mine mine mine" when he doesn't get what he wants
@@Devilspade "Mohg doesn't want to bone his brother that's a common lie told" I suggest you re-read the "Remembrance of Mohg" item description. It's commonly said, because it's common lore knowledge. That's not even a deep dive.
@@mayazeal3469 on the same par as mha shipping.
pride and wrath can be interchangable between malenia and radahn, 1-malenia nuked radahn because she wanted to keep her undefeated record and dit it as desparation and to protect her pride in her blade,2 radahn waited for malenia to put on her arm for a fair fight and he idolizes godfrey a guy whose whole thing is about strength and fair fight on the other had malenia has the scarlet rot something that literally decimates anything in its path, and her voice line "you will witness true horror, now rot" and mad radhan who eats friends and foes or fights them etc they both share the same amount of pride and wrath tho i'd argue malenia slightly more because she conciously does it and radahn is completely gone in the head and wrath isn't his natural personality
Very interesting and well presented thanks :) I would personnaly have chosen Rennala as Sloth, staying in the library as she is and failing her people, Mohg as Lust (his burning desire for power and Miquella feels like it), Godrick as Greed who never satiate and always wants more Tarnished to graft, Malenia as Pride being the Blade of Miquella/the Millicent line and Radahn as Wrath! But it still feels adequate now
Edit : After reading the reply to this message Radahn makes more sense as Pride and Malenia as Wrath indeed :)
I agree with most of this, but I don’t think Radahn suits wrath at all. He shows great restraint holding back the stars, I feel like to embody the actual *sin* of wrath he would need to sacrifice his restraint to throw the brunt of his power into destruction. Melania, meanwhile, abandons her vulnerable brother in the pursuit of war. She destroys her body, her own army, and an entire country in a moment of reckless combat.
@@tansywhisker2547 Oooh that's very true ! Definitely makes more sense to swipe these in my proposal :)
Very well made video! Does a great job showing even more comparisons and parallels you can pull from this immersive universe!
Idk man Malenia in second phase gives me a certain deadly sin
Lust should've been the mohglester himself
Rennala seems like a good candidate for Sloth as well, never leaving her Tower after Radagon left her for Marika. (Themselves) She’s so used to this state of waiting for her partner to come back that even when we fight her, she can’t stand up to fight us just like her children. I agree that Malenia is a great candidate for Pride as well, and I think that you could make a case for Radahn being Wrath, Godrick being Lust/Greed, this theory has a lot of potential and I’m curious to see what puzzle pieces can fit where
Yeah she doesn't leave cause she's in a great depression cause her husband left her. How is pioneering a new form of magic and being a leader of student's sloth?
You should make a video on characters who embody the seven heavenly virtues next. There are some who I believe just outright show these traits, like Godfrey showing humility when faced against other warriors, smaller and possibly weaker than him, but still showing them respect and fighting them with all he has.
I love these sort of videos, taking common ideas and concepts and applying them to stories or characters in my favorite games, and you certainly do it justice! another excellent video, sir Dumpy!
A lot of them can actually be argued to fit some or even all of the sins.
Sloth is a big thing for all of them, most are just literally waiting for you to walk up and execute them after all and it seems they've been in that state of stasis for a long, long time. Morgott is the only one actively doing things and his whole goal is to keep the others from doing things.
Pride is strong in Radahn, Malenia, and Godrick.
Envy is strong in both Morgott and Godrick.
Lust is an obvious motivator for Mohg.
Wrath is seen in Radahn, Rykard, Ranni.
Gluttony for Rykard, but also in Godrick.
Greed is seen in Mohg, Rykard, Godrick, and Motgott to various extents.
the variety and quality of your content is incredible
Great video! I have to strongly disagree. I think Malenia is Pride and Radahn is Wrath. You can argue that Radahn is only wrath-like after his fight with Malenia but whatever. Malenia cannot help but constantly remind everyone that she's "undefeated". She's so proud of this that she sacrificed the entire of Caelid so she could argue that Radahn couldn't win and she's still "never known defeat". If that isn't the most blatant act of pride in Elden Ring, I'll give a horned omen a big 'ol hug.
thank you
I do think the theory of the shardbearers being based on the seven deadly sins seems pretty on point and very symbolic in a way that seems to really fit Miyazaki’s storytelling but I feel like there are three here that need to be swapped and those three are Godrick, Rennala, and Mohg.
Mohg seems like the pretty obvious one to me that’s out of place. There are so many items like Rivers of Blood connected to the Lord of Blood that reference the word “bloodlust.” In fact, that’s kind of the entire purpose of Mohg’s character. He has a deep DESIRE to bring about his “dynasty” revolving around an outer god who craves wounds. In fact, Mohg’s entire driving purpose is an embodiment of bloodlust. Plus, red being a clear indicator of “passion” feels very symbolic.
Next, as someone else mentioned, Rennala is kind of an embodiment of Sloth herself. Once Radagon leaves, she is so wracked with grief that she can barely function anymore and obsesses about what once was in place of what could be. This is a very clear embodiment of laziness. The very fact that Rennala does not actively fight us is clearly representative of this. She doesn’t even actually fight us in her second phase, this is an illusion/spirit conjured by her daughter, Rani, to defend her mother’s former glory and show that she didn’t always used to just be a pushover. However, she still is even in the end, sat in the same position she began in.
Godrick, next, is definitely the one that requires a bit more thought but obviously, this leaves Godrick as Greed and I do really think this checks out. Godrick wants more limbs and more strength and continues to grasp and grasp and grasp (quite literally with his several hands which also serve as a great greed metaphor which we all know Miyazaki loves). Even with all the power he accumulates however, it both never is and never feels like enough for Godrick. Additionally, we have another good color metaphor like Mohg’s red, GOLD. Godrick is not referred to by anyone as Godrick the Golden though this is how he wishes to be perceived. He is obsessed with raising his power and status to position where he might be “bathed in rays of gold.” And something tells me that even with this achievement, Godrick would still not be satisfied, he wishes to be lord of “all that is golden” but it is something eternally out of his grasp because his greed is what keeps him from obtaining true strength.
Other than those three, I definitely do think the others are pretty spot on but those three are the ones that I do have to strongly disagree with.
This was really good! Your script naturally flowed with each boss OST.
I agree with almost every one of these except Wrath. I have never thought of Malenia as wrathful. However, the one that I always saw as the epitome of Wrath was Godfrey. I mean, just look at his boss fight! How can anyone else be Wrath with Hoarah Loux, Warrior stomping about?!
Watch the outro
It isn't implied that radagon and Marika are the same person...it is flat out stated as fact. Do the golden order quest and you find out and tell gold mask.
8:24 what she gave him was a moon greatsword, which is bestowed by a Carian queen upon her
spouse to honor long-standing tradition(taken partly from the description of the dark moon greatsword). after going back to the golden order, radagon changed the sword to fit the golden order
This was actually a lot more interesting than i expected it to be. god i love Elden Ring lore!
great video! :)
“Nobody is trying to like bone you mid fight, well Malenia gets naked, but that’s not an invitation.”
Well, I mean, sometimes you gotta risk it for the biscuit.
Hahahaha!!!!
There are plenty of indications that Miquella was actually kidnapped prior to Malenia's crusade... In fact, as the location of Malenia and Radahn's great duel happened straight above where Mohg was keeping Miquella, and the Heart of Aeonia itself appears to be a gigantic Sacramental Bud (plants strongly implied to have been watered with Miquella's blood) it can be inferred that Malenia might've tracked Miquella to Caelid and arrived at the conclusion that it was Radahn who had kidnapped her brother... It's also strongly implied that the Scarlet Rot corrodes an individual's mind if they do not have a strong sense of self to anchor themselves to, and Malenia has shaped her identity around being "the undefeated swordswoman" to such an extent that moments like Radahn being able to stalemate her, and the Tarnished being able to best her, shakes her so badly that the Scarlet Rot can break out again... Though wrath might've motivated her crusade, it's not what triggers her to bloom.
Also: If you're gonna go all "if Radahn hadn't been holding back the stars, then he might've crushed Malenia" on us, then you kinda also need to go "if Malenia was not holding back the power of a Fallout God so that it wouldn't erupt out of her body then she might've crushed Radahn" as well. Credit goes in both directions here.
Radahn simps are insane. Always creating headcanons that's not supported by the game. There's zero indication that Radahn holding back the stars nerfs him.
@@CalmingVisionary There's that, too, yes. And most people seem to just kinda go along with that argument, as if throwing Radahn a bone or something... By contrast, I don't see that many people (not even among the Malenia simps tbh) bring up the fact that the Scarlet Rot had claimed Malenia's dominant arm, both of her legs, and both of her eyes by the time she was finally weak enough for Radahn to be able to stalemate her... On one hand, we probably have to assume that being an Empyrean gave Malenia a hefty power boost, but on the other hand we've still got the fact that being the Empyrean of the Scarlet Rot was crippling and, by extension, presumably also weakening her...
@GrahamChapman I don't think being an Empyrean boosted her power. The game makes it clear that the Rot nerfed her potential. Her great rune should've been the "most sacred of all", but it's half-rotted and thus useless. Every mention of her rot frames it as a disability that she overcomes. She's strong in spite of it (her blade description: "Though she never knew relief from the accursed rot she was born into, her blade was forever beautiful and relentless"). Multiple item descriptions and her great rune emphasizes that she would've been stronger if she was not born with the rot. As for Radahn, nothing in the game says he was nerfed in any way. For example, the game makes it clear Malenia would've been stronger if she was not cursed, and Godfrey was being nerfed because Serosh was holding him back. But nowhere does it say that Radahn is nerfed by holding the stars, it's only a headcanon invented by his fans. Radahn was healthy when he fought Malenia and still couldn't kill her. One move from her Rot attack immediately put him out of the game lol. And the only reason he hasn't died to the rot is because of his great rune which is burning to resist it. Nothing about Radahn was nerfed, it's just his fans creating headcanons and being in denial.
@@CalmingVisionary I think being an Empyrean did boost her power, same as I think being related by blood to a God boosted the power of all of the Demigods. But, as you say, Malenia still wasn't as powerful as she could've been/would've been had the Scarlet Rot not been crippling her... It's a fair observation you make about Radahn, though: He's one of the few characters who didn't hold himself back or was held back in some capacity. Well, I mean, the Rot has gotten to him by the time we fight him, sure, but still: When he went up against Malenia, he was Prime!Radahn... Kinda makes you wonder what Prime!Malenia would've been like if she hadn't been an Empyrean, or at least not the Empyrean of an entity that weakened her so... Intact eyes, dominant arm still going strong, both legs healthy and spry, mind and body never weakened but only strengthened by her divine attributes and powers... Though, then again, if that had been her life then I suppose she wouldn't have had quite the same impetus to overcome her weaknesses and grow stronger, either... Kudos to Miyazaki who's out there giving us badass representations for handicapped people. Especially considering how badly stigmatized handicapped people normally are in Japanese society.
Naw fr the bias towards radahn was crazy
Really entertaining video, love seeing this kind of content
Dude that was one of the best descriptions of the lore behind elden ring. It was really exciting to hear all this too. Fantastic video
Great video, but at 8:25 you said Rennala gifted the Golden Order Greatsword to Radagon, but that isn't entirely true. She gave him a Dark Moon Greatsword like the one Ranni gives the player at the end of her questline, and then, after leaving her, Radagon made it into the Golden Order Greatsword, which is a massive betrayal against her.
Poor rennala… gave a man exactly what men want and then he turns around and makes it piss colored
No way Mohg isn't lust
I’ve thought of this before, this is what I came up with (haven’t watched the video yet)
Godrick: Greed. Always wanted more power, stole limbs from corpses to steal their power
Rennala: Sloth. Kinda just lays around all day, probably can’t even walk, she barely even fights back when we fight the real her (yeah I know she’s fucked up mentally but still, lazybones)
Radahn: Wrath. Is basically just a wild animal now due to rot. A little shaky on this one because pre-rot he does not seem wrathful
Rykard: Gluttony. The entire plan of Volcano Manor is to find the powerful Tarnished and feed them to Rykard. Also, the spirit guy who tells you about the spear calls him gluttonous
Morgott: Envy. Morgott hates his cursed blood and the fact he is an omen. He is born without grace, yet still defends the Erdtree that denied him grace. And when we fight him, he keeps talking about how we’re a graceless Tarnished. Clearly projecting, sounds pretty jealous that some random dude got grace, while he, the King of Leyndell, didn’t.
Mohg: Lust. The Maid of Miquella.
Malenia: Pride. The Blade of Miquella. The one who has never known defeat. Seems to be something she likes to say. Whenever she seems to be losing a battle, such as against Radahn or you, she pulls out the Aeonia card and absolutely fucking nukes the place to save face.
the maid of miquella hahaha 😭
Ive stumbled onto a treasure, hearing the lore about these characters was awesome, thanks man. ❤
Neat fact: after you beat morrgot, he no longer had horns, suggesting the erdtree recognized him in his final moments
Man, this video is a piece of art 👏👏🤩. I thought Mohg would be lust, Godrick would be greed and Rennala Sloth😅. You surprised me!
I think it’s interesting the miquella and malenia have curses or birth defects since their parents are the same person, is it incest?
It basically speedruns your homozygocity, meaning that any recessive traits you have are almost guaranteed to show up in your offspring.
The term is selfcest, though historically that has likely only ever been fictional
It's more complicated than that, becuse a) we don't know if Marika and Radagon are genetically identical and b) we don't know how exactly M&M's came to be. They could be Marika's creations like Radagon was.
Their children's state could as well be result of fell god's curse on Marika.
@@user-ke8ew3or5n yeah but malenia is cursed with rot. Just seems like a coincidence. But then again the other royal twins are cursed so who knows
@@marcuscallahan4645 true, might be a stretch, but i haven't found anything that connects outer god of rot and Marika/Radagon.
So that is one of my guesses - similar to how some diseases can attract other ones, fell god's curse attracted rot.
If you want an explanation for how radagon and marika can have children, and radagon can marry rennala while marika is doing her own thing, it can be inferred that they were originally different people. Marika and Radagon's people, empyreans, can become two people with different personalities, just sharing the same body.
Let’s go the thing I didn’t know I needed
Malenia and Radahn have pretty much interchangable sins, he is almost as angry as he's prideful, while she enjoys too much being the undefeated armed hand of the best empyrean
I don't think Marika and Radagon are the same person since the very beginning. I personally think that Radagon and Marika _fused_ after the shattering, or at least sometime around that, and that's why they could have children
Eh, duality seems to be a theme with many gods in Elden Ring. Dragonlord Placidusax's two remaining heads are in the internal files referred to as male and female respectively; Miquella and St. Trina were very likely one and the same individual; Morgott's projections go by "Margit"; Ranni goes by "Renna" when you first meet her. I see no reason to believe that Marika and Radagon haven't always been one and the same, but that they can split apart if they need to, and that they are separate enough to have conflicting opinions and perspectives on the world and their role in it. E.g., while Radagon is the loyal hound of the Golden Order, Marika is dissatisfied with it and wish to see it overthrown.
Always happy to see dumpy post video
Years ago, during a particular philosophy seminar which course name I can't quite remember, we were taught about some thematic connections being made across western (fictional) literature. Primarily, the focus was on vices and virtues, and how many stories, including shakespearean ones, have characters exemplify or be the engenderment of a certain vice or virtue.
We were then given the task of finding such similar thematic connections within any piece of modern literature. (I chose The Hunchback of the Notre Dame by Victor Hugo) I could actually find a lot of good examples.
What's both the tricky and fun bit is that in a way, you can apply many different vices and virtues to many different characters and come up with a reasonable explanation in a lot of cases for why this or that character exemplified the given vice or virtue. For instance; the hunchback represents loyalty and love, Frollo represents lust and wrath, the poet represents sloth and cowardice, Captain Phoebus represents pride, Frollo's little brother represents greed, Esmeralda represents innocence and beauty, Her mom represents faith and undying motherly love, Phoebus' wife-to-be represents envy, etc.... However, looking at things from a different perspective, you can also come to opposite conclusions. Phoebus is a coward in the end. Esmeralda's naïvité in the face of overwhelming evidence that she is being used by everybody around her leads her to her own death despite having a get out of jail free card at one point. The hunchback's unending loyalty to frollo and love for esmeralda leads to his own death, Esmeralda's mother, whose infinite devotion, faith and love for her child, leads her to leading a miserable life of an insane hermit, so she might as well represent madness, Frollo did not start out as a lustful, angry man, he was actually quite the devoted, virtuous and saintly man, but was plagued by shifting obsessions all his life, Esmeralda being his final one.
The poet (whose name escapes me), on the other hand, while being cowardly and slothful, is also the most likeable fellow in the story, not really having a bad bone in his body and ultimately just wanting to do what's right, ending up making the absolutely most selfish and wrong choice at the end that dooms Esmeralda, but we can feel for this choice, given the bad lot he was given in the story and how he ultimately had almost no choice throughout it.
This type of thing is a fun excercise and most importantly underlines a VITAL aspect of all storytelling: that of the flaws and virtues of mankind. It also shows how these things are connected with one another through the thread of a narrative or connected plotpoints, binding these characters together. It's also a fundamentally important thing to have in any story that is planned out to be a dramatic tragedy. (Something that unfortunately is missing from today's mass consumption hollywoodification of media. Good writers know when to have a bad ending, and unfortunately, the growing americanization of global culture means audiences are increasingly becoming less tolerant for it, preferring generic "the hero wins the girl in the end" stories instead. There is a reason Marvel is so huge, and there is a reason Marvel is so generic.)
In any case: a lot of GREAT stories have these underlying themes. The themes of the "seven deadly sins" are essentially very similar, boiled down to 7 traditionally christian thematic points. What's not so important is whether or not Fromsoft used the seven deadly sins as a direct reference or inspiration for their material in elden ring, but more so, it's important that fromsoft (miyazaki more specifically) understands what tragedy means, and how flaws in people and our empathy for their situation can improve upon a story. (Godrick the grafted might be a despicable person, but we might fully understand his evil when looking at it from his perspective and his past. He grew up in the shadow of infinite expactations, the mockery of his fellow people and within a violent, war-driven culture that at one point EXPECTED the lords to kill each other to claim the throne. That would make any person develop incredible insecurities, and for Godrick it's magnified just by the excessiveness of his situation. Godrick is fundamentally a tragic character, even if he still needs to go down.)
good video, the lore was great and I really enjoyed this
the writers and artists really make up for the creepiness with this beautiful story
I was a really big fan of this video. Keep up the good work.
Of all the tragic characters in Elden Ring, Morgott is one of the few I genuinely feel sorry for
Shunned from birth for the "sin" of being born an Omen, he never wavered in his loyalty to the Erdtree and it's Golden Order. The same Order that shunned him, the order he had every right to hate. When the Elden Ring was shattered, he didn't just nab "a" shard, he nabbed the *anchoring ring*, the part that above all other shards was needed to restore the Elden Ring.
And yet, despite his unwavering loyalty, despite his golden lineage, despite having the most important piece to repair the ring..... the Erdtree still spurned him. Denied him access the same it did us. Morgott had every reason to despise the Golden Order, yet he above all others was it's most staunch defender. A true tragedy.
Really interesting video. One note, which is just more of a personal interpretation than anything else, but I’m of the belief that Malenia had little to no control over her blooming, in both her fights with Radahn and the Tarnished. I believe it’s the scarlet rot in her system activating a last resort.
Yeah, it activates automatically when she's close to death I think. She is the vessel of an Outer God, I doubt that God would just LET her die like that. It makes sense that the Rot is trying to keep thriving through Malenia, forcefully.
@@shreksmeatballs9435 More-so that it activates when she cannot win. It's strongly implied that Scarlet Rot corrodes an individual's mind if they do not have a strong sense of self to anchor themselves to, and Malenia has shaped her identity around being "the undefeated swordswoman" to such an extent that moments like Radahn being able to stalemate her, and the Tarnished being able to best her, shakes her so badly that the Scarlet Rot can break out... This would also explain why she keeps repeating "I am Malenia, Blade of Miquella": She's trying to reaffirm her sense of identity.
Well, yes she *cant* control it but she can summon it when she wants to.
She summoned the scarlet flower by killing herself on top of Radahn
@@LegendaryBrah She didn't kill herself on top of Radahn, though. She braced the tang of her sword against her shoulder to give herself enough power to push the blade into Radahn's body and hold him in place like that. And that's what their stalemate was: Radahn being unable to move because he was nailed in place by Malenia's sword, and Malenia being unable to move because then Radahn would be able to start moving again, too... And, all things considered, it's more likely that the Rot broke loose because Radahn was able to shake Malenia's sense of identity as "the undefeated swordswoman."
@@GrahamChapman trailer shows that she does in fact stabs herself before the scarlet flower blooms
When you fight her, the scarlet flower blooms only after dying and being revived.
It’s safe to assume that she killed herself on top of Radahn in a desperate attempt to end the fight.
Keep up the good work bigman, quality content mate 👌👌
I just wanted to mention that malenia and miquella are cursed by outter gods not because Marika and raddagon are the same person, oh and after miquella gets kidnapped after malenias fight with radahn. She was there just slumbering as she was when we walk up on her
There's a piece of dialogue from melina that kinda hints at the fact that marika and radagon were once seperate beings and in order to be joined as one he'd have to become elden lord
I'm not sure when or at what points but I believe radagon WAS his own being until he left rennala then something happened and they became one
No definitive proof outside of that dialogue melina gives you in marikas bedchambers and idek how i got it but yk nice lore theory crafting
your videos are very good, keep going
Great video. I was taken by surprise on a few. Radahn was so prideful of being a Demigod that he admired Godfrey, who wasn’t even his father. While he was living as grandiose as possible, his siblings were plotting. He even held the stars in place, thwarting Ranni’s plan. It’s like he shunned his family to become as great as Godfrey once was.
Then came Malenia, to which I assume was pressed for time as the rot was eating her alive, looking to defeat the strongest to reassure the future unbeknownst to Mohg’s scheme. The perfect recipe for wrath. A blind rage.
I think this could be the dumbest take I have ever seen
Wow 👏 extremely well thought out theory and well done video
“Taking power from others”
Godrick is definitely greed. He is someone filled with empty ambition. Also he literally steals limbs.
Renella is easily sloth. She literally just floats around all day.
I would say Mogh is lust. He just for blood, and for Miquella (🤢)
And I think malenia and radahn should be swapped. Since malenia abandoned her pride to release the scarlet rot.
@@mysteriousstranger5873radahn didn't abandon his though. His refusal to let go of his pride seems to be what cost him his victory.
something to note is that Malenia doesn't control the blooms, those happen automatically when she dies or is close to dying, she didn't intend to nuke caelid it just happened due to her state, it is said that after her 3rd bloom she'd achieve godhood
That's why I think she fits better as Pride, she can't accept defeat to the point where she she's losing it pushes her to become better, to become stronger, to become a goddess
Malenia absolutely control the blooms, we are shown how she used the first against Radahn and when she uses it against us she is able to control were it happens.
@@hasturthekinginyellow5003 the main blooms and the scarlet aeonia incantations derived from them are differen't things, everyone could in theory learn to use the aeonia incant such as yourself and gideon and unlike the blooms it doesn't leave any physical remains like the solid blooms we find on the haligtree on that side room (not malenia's bloom but one of her fututre valkiryes alongisde Milicent) and like the one you can find on the arena after beating her and reloading the area
@@hasturthekinginyellow5003The bloom in caelid could just be that her impaling herself snapped the needle. Also note that Malenia is said to resist the rot basically by sheer will power to not succumb to it so could also be when she is dying and loosing hope she no longer has the will to stop it from happening
@@xlgapelsin6173 Radahn was a zombie and yet his will never failed and he kept holding back the stars.
Why is Radahn able to do that but not Malenia?
Dude, you should do this more. I loved it!
Videos of this Kind are exactly my Jam, and I appreciate that it taught me a little Bit of Elden Ring Lore in a Framing that resonates with me (I am not into the whole "read a bunch of Item Descriptions to get the Lore" Stuff, I hate it). While I'm not sure all of the Sins map onto the 7 big Bosses equally well, I would like to point out that Rennala's Desire is also framed in a Manner of Rebirth, giving Birth, continuously birthing, which in a literal physical Sense would be the Result of Sex and thus has sexual Connotations on some symbolic Level, albeit in a wholesome and dignified Manner, but this Connotation could none the less support Rennala's "Lust"-Aspect.
well now you gotta do one for the 7 holy virtues.
I was sure Mogh was gonna be lust
I didn’t know I needed this, but apparently I did.
imo malania should be considered pride
destroyed a whole area of the lands between because she didn't want to lose and keeps saying "i have never know defeat"
I think the fact that the comments are all debating which boss fits with which sin kinda proves the theory is false. These characters were clearly written without any intention to represent the seven deadly sins, it's a very tired trope after all, seeing as they are simply negative character traits that literally anyone could exhibit at any time, and these characters are shown to be a bit more complex than one-word descriptors.
Take Godrick as an example, he's interesting because he's the runt of the demi-gods, a feeble old man grasping at power, having to hide himself among women to flee from the capital during the war, while also being easily bested in battle by Malenia, forced to grovel for his life. He looks to his past, to the strength of Godfrey, his ancestor, and attempts to make himself worthy by grafting the bodies of strong warriors onto his own, in a perverse replication of Godfrey taking Serosh upon his back. He fails to see the irony in the fact that Serosh's purpose was to suppress Godfrey's might, not enhance it. Godrick even seemingly curses Stormveil, once the castle of Godfrey, through his constant grafting. Even with all his extra limbs, his huge ornate golden axe, a fucking dragon head for a hand, he's still a pathetic old man, because his power wasn't earned, and it wasn't his. No matter how much he took, he'd never be anywhere near the level of the First Elden Lord that he worshipped so much.
I think that's much more interesting than saying he represents sloth, or pride, or envy, or gluttony, because you could easily say he fits all of these, because he's layered and not written by a 14 year old that thinks the seven deadly sins trope is deep lmao
Right. There's also the fact that Rennala shouldn't be here since she's not a demigod, and Miquella, Ranni, and Godwyn are important demigods but they cannot make it to the list since it should feature only 7 characters.
The theory of characters representing the deadly sins is older than someone would imagine.
I've seen it in a lot of media far more than in videogames themselves.
(SpongeBob, Simpsons...)
The same kind of theory as everything is a dream or imagination for every midly fantastic story.
When you have such big variety of characters like those, each other having diferent personalities and each flaw for each personality, is easier to correlate some of this traits with something we know, or start to see things where they aren't.
"Marila, Is this, what it is, TO SIN?"
This is the elden ring lore content I've been waiting for 👏👏👏
8:25 Rennala didn't give Radagon the golden order sword, she gave him the moonlight sword given to the consorts of Carian Royalty.
Radagon forged it into the golden order sword
The way I was taught the sins
Pride - One will above all.
Greed - Inability to let go.
Wrath - Lack of patience.
Sloth - Ignoring responsibility.
Lust - Pleasure above all.
Envy - Spiteful longing.
Gluttony - Inability to control oneself.
Apathy - Lack of care.
Vanity - Apearance above all.
The last two were removed because people got them confused with sloth and pride respectively, but I still consider them separate sins.
But I'd like to think that the sins do not represent the shard bearers, but the demi-gods. So instead of Rennala, I think a better candidate would be Ranni. And the two cut sins representing our two deceased demi-gods.
But if I had to throw my quick synopsis...
Pride - Morgott
Greed - Radahn
Wrath - Ranni
Sloth - Malenia
Lust - Mohg
Envy - Godrick
Gluttony - Rykard
Apathy - Godwyn
Vanity - Miquella
I agree.
Rennala doesn't make sense as being on the list, as she's not a demi-God. If you take all of th demi-Gods who are still active, you have 7 (with Godwyn and Miquella being incapacitated in varying degrees).
Damn, that's quite unusual, but very interesting perspective, especially with Malenia being associated with Sloth this way
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Why I think Malenia is Sloth?
So a huge trope with Sloth is that they are often times the strongest, but ironically, due to their lazy nature, they do not act upon that power. Unless someone they care about inspires them to do so.
I think this fits Malenia pretty well.
Malenia is the reincarnation of the "Rot God" and is the most promising candidate to start a new age, but she rejects this responsibility entirely. Instead she devotes her life to her brother Miquella. But it is when Miquella disappears that Malenia falls back into Sloth. We find her sleeping in a chair, waiting for him to return, because she does not have the will to move without him.
It's also thematic that rot has been compared to a stagnant pool of water (Sloth). The best way to fight against the rot is to make the water flow (Diligence).
Of course, I don't know anything for certain. Just my interpretation. But given all the Christian references in the game, I would not be surprised if they were actually modeled off of sins.
@@soulstarved4116 Thanks a lot for reply and further explaining this trope! ☺
Not gonna lie I was really hoping for the others to appear like fortissax taking on wrath in some way due to him devoting his life to protecting godwin even at the cost of his own life or another sin that suits him better
You have done a absolutely outstanding job on these, though I could argue on a couple of things.
Godrick is greed he wants power and glory and gold. Some of his voice lines reflect this.
Mohg is lust since he desires nothing but power and even sacrifice his own brother for it and lust doesn’t mean it’s sexual it just a desire for something that was it’s original meaning at least
And the last one is moon mommy
After losing her love she went into a bit of a shock and decided to loss all motivation for anything on thing she would do usually and now does nothing but look at her egg that a past lover gave her she is sloth
But I could see going for either way on the sins I kinda just wanted to put my own input or idea for this idea
I did enjoy it, your video was excellently made
It’s actually implied that Morgott was out of the sewers before The Shattering bc of how he is the leader of the Night’s Calvary and the NC was used to hunt down the Black Knife Assassins after the assassination of Godwyn and the other unnamed demigods in the mausoleums
Malenia is definitely pride, she literally looks down on you when she prepares waterfowl dance, the reason the rot overtakes her is because she cannot accept defeat she is Malenia, the undefeated, she is Malenia, Blade of Miquella. Radahn is Wrath, he is literally driven by nothing but battle rage, to the point where he roars in fury, flies into the sky and proceeds to literally explode.
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Y'know I always thought Malenia's battle against Radahn came after Miquella got kidnapped, mostly cause Mohgwyn Palace is directly under Caelid, and because Malenia going after Radahn for no reason seems out of character, considering the only goal she's shown to have is serving as Miquella's blade and furthering his ambition.
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Bro doesnt have a babe 😔
In my opinion, Malenia bloomed the first time due to pride. She was Malenia, an undefeated swordsman.
Her whole life she struggles against her curse and this is the one purpose she has. Every bit of self worth she has is pinned on her ability with the sword. Her reputation, ability to protect her brother, to lead an army.
I believe she bloomed to keep her pride, and I love the irony that the very thing she trained to keep her rot in check leads to its release.
Also her brother is fighting for a new order vs Radahn was kind of fighting for things to stay the same (stopping the stars)
There's actually reason to suggest she is forced to bloom when almost dead. Malenia doesn't have control over the blooming, or at least not fully, especially since she is the vessel of the God of Rot. It's only natural both of her bloomings were a last resort by the higher being and not her to save their vessel. Plus, Malenia doesn't flex being undefeated in reality, and it seems she reminds herself of being the Blade of Miquella more than shoeing off because of the rot
@@soupgirl1871 She cheates both in game mechanics and in lore for me She Is pride full bitch and shit boss
The fact that pride is in the center at 0:21 is perfection 🤌
W bg classical music choice (also great vid)
I live my life with the 7 deadly sins in mind. I try to do all 7 of them each day. Life is too short.
Godrick: Sloth
Renala: Lust
Radahn: Pride
Morgot: Envy
Rykard: Gluttony
Mogh: Greed
Malenia: Wrath
Great video dude. But the music was a little bit to loud in a few places
Loved this video bro!
I would argue Malenia is more prideful on the sole fact that she obviously did lose to radahn being forced to basically suicide bomb and retreat, yet refuses to accept the fact of her failure.
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I was watching a vid from your channel for the first time, but that gluteus maximus DK packin in your profile caught my attention. Gaaaahh Damn!
12:06 Not correcting anything, just wanted to clarify for those who are unclear. As Morgott lays there dieing, he is refering to how his blood is now literally on the royal thrones. His entire life he was made to believe himself unworthy of a throne, so much so that he is ashamed to see his cursed omen blood has spilled onto them. I believe that this is what's meant when he uses the term "stained by my curse".
Great video bro! Amazing