The maternal side of my family settled in Frost around 1901; my grandparents and an uncle or two are buried in the municipal cemetery. When I was growing up we attended the annual “Homecoming.” The town was badly mauled in a 1927 tornado. I have an aunt and uncle buried on the Dawson Municipal Cemetery; so you were exploring my mother’s original stomping grounds. I enjoyed your video very much, thank you.
I'm in England. Love your videos. Great presentation and no nonsense. Video quality is very good. I've loved the 'wild' west and especially Texas since I was a kid reading those cowboy books and watching stuff like Rawhide and wagon train on TV. Love Nevada and Arizona too. Great areas to explore.
As kids growing up in the '50's when the series "Robin Hood" was shown on American television, we all wanted to be "Merry Men" and everybody wanted to be Robin except me, my idol was the Sheriff of Nottingham who was deliciously evil, self- centered, narcissistic and corrupt, all the virtues I embrace to this day. One fellow always wanted to be maid Marion, but that is a story for another day.
Drugs, guns, lack of policing and I notice the statistics are incomplete. The first town seems to be a "manufactured" poor town by that I mean the income does not reflect what you see. People have wealth that they are hiding behind a facade of decrepit front. That reflects on a dishonesty that doesn't add up in the data.
Actually looking at other States $950 dollars to get to a felony is low. My State of Pennsylvania is $2000. It's been that way since I was a kid. Anything under is a misdemeanor
When you have a very small population of less than 1k, one bar fight can raise the crime stats by a few percentage points. Also if you have one or two rich families in the town, it can raise the mean household income stats as well.
Just an FYI you described Prop 47 correctly except for one thing, the governor didn't sign it. It was a ballot initiative so the government had no choice in executing it. Propositions become part of the constituion and the legislature and the governor cannot reverse it. So another ballot initiative would have to be voted for to repeal it. In other words we did it to ourselves.
I'm a retired Los Angeles area cop ( 88 to 07). Grew up in Ft. Worth. The dollar amount for grand theft was about half that when I worked. The exception being avocados. Farmers have a lot of "juice" in the legislature. Crime reporting depends on what neighborhood you are in. Violent crime is widely reported. Theft depends on the neighborhood. Middle class and above generally report everything. Much of Los Angeles is occupied by people in the country illegally. They will report violent crime but tend not to report theft. People in Burbank, Glendale etc...will report property crime.
It's a shame , the police in Dallas Tx. Gets a call of a car theft ,they don't care anymore either !! Crimes over $25,000 maybe will get an officer to your door to take the report !! The judges are all democrats and city hall also
High income in that area is more than likely due to producing natural gas wells. Central N. Tx. has lots of producing wells. Raises that average quickly. That big bird was a Texas buzzard.
Another great trip through Tx. I love visiting these places with you guys since I will no longer be able to travel myself anymore. Thanks again for the great content!
Under Proposition 36, the theft of money or property worth $950 or less would be punishable as a felony for people who have two or more previous convictions for some theft-related crimes. Under Proposition 36, a person would still be charged with a misdemeanor for the first two simple drug possession convictions but on the third conviction, a person would be charged as a felony and qualify for jail or prison time.
In 1968, Braniff Airlines flight 352 crashed east of Dawson. The crash occurred during a severe thunderstorm and killed all 85 aboard. There is an historical marker near the site on FM 709.
Multiple cat sightings = "A Good Cat Day". I also noticed that the cat was getting along with all those chickens....probably due to the fact Mr. Rooster is there to provide protection! ...Happy Thanksgiving week to you and your family Joe. Stay safe. .....Russell D.
me & my wife live in Italy, TX! another small town not far from those you visited in this video. a bit shocked you did not pass by the domes in Dawson, a pretty unique housing option. the domes here are rad ! hope you enjoyed stopping by : )
I’m born and raised in Sacramento and this city has changed so drastically in just the last 6 or 7 years. Crime and homelessness is ridiculous! Can’t be mad when citizens start taking the law into their own hands to protect themselves and their property. I feel bad for the business. Lots of people here are starting to move out the city to nearby suburbs in neighboring Sacramento counties because they have their own police force and seem to enforce crime and homelessness
Most people go to stores and pay for the merchandise everyone is not thieves I assume and I think they don't want to tie up police with petty crimes to focus on more serious maybe
Is it a jail overload issue and they don't want to build more taking money out of their pockets or do they think they are doing them a favor!! Petty stuff leads to bigger crimes. Less tolerance and give them accountability and the community and their lives will get better. I would rather live in a law and order state runned by people with grit and integrity to protect our communities and families. The numbers speak the truth!!!
The cost to process the crime is likely more than the cost of "writing it off". However the hidden cost to the shopkeeper and society is another. Love the kitty sightings .
Cody & Kellie uploaded a TON of Terlingua, TX videos and yes, they talk to the locals. If you want any real objectivity, and the sights and the highlights of places WITH some of the locals it’s their channel to watch. 😊
It’s amazing how some of these small Texas towns are collapsing while other Dallas area towns are booming. The town I live (Fate, Tx) is exploding in population.
Too bad you never meet anybody to talk about how life is in these abandoned little towns, about what people do to work or get their groceries, about the community life, the security enforcement,...
@@StephenSellers-dr3qt New around here? They've been all over the country. They're probably a little Texas heavy right now as they're from TX and are here for family around the holidays.
My daughter lives in LA. Many crimes are not reported, even assaults when there is not a major injury. If you call and report it the police may not arrive for 1 - 2 days to get the report. They may not show up at all. Even if reported, the current (soon to be prior) DA's office would often not prosecute. My daughter was assaulted and ended up in the ER. A detective went to the assailant's apartment where she admitted it and her brother confirmed it - on body cam. The DA refused to prosecute. People walk into stores, grab an armload full, and walk out. No one stops them or reports it. The true crime rate in LA is at least twice what is reported.
As a resident of LA this is wildly untrue with police response time. Maybe it just depends on what station is dispatching? Also violent crime in the city has been down. Customers wouldn’t report retail crime but the stores sure do and police make arrests often not in public to make for a safer arrest (so bystanders aren’t caught in crossfire) Because of the security tags and serial numbers stolen merch can be easily trace when being sold.
@@nathan3595 retail stores don't report thefts unless the amount of goods is greater than $950 in value; tracking serial numbers for electronics, for example, is pointless unless there's a GPS tag is attached.
Great trip with you as usual, Joe & Nicole. With the topic of crime & other societal issues, I just have to say there's been a deletion of the word 'prevention' I surely must have been abducted & then placed into a totally different zone where things get more insane with each 24hr that passes. Dear Joe & Nic you have no idea how much you help me. Looking forward to seeing the deep south. Cheers. Be safe.
Probably a lot of people from the comments are wondering why you don’t occasionally interact with some locals to give your audience an insight into the culture of the towns you visit. Adds another dimension to your videos. You may have good reason and I as a subscriber would like to know. Many other TH-camrs that do the same thing do interact with the locals of the towns they visit. You may have already addressed this question as I imagine I’m not the first to ask or suggest it. This is not a negative criticism of your work just something that pops up in the comments often.
The only reason i support Prop 47 is so stores pay for their own security instead of off loading petty shoplifting to police and by extension the taxpayers. Additionally police have more important crimes to pursue, my taxes shouldn’t be going towards petty shop lifting cases. Most smash and grabs happen at major retailers, I guess the ones that don’t have security figure it cheaper to eat the cost. Alot of these thieves are stealing more than $950. Also the $950 limit is just for a felony, it’s still against the law to steal. (Edit: LA resident here) Great video as always btw🇺🇸😎
You wanted to know what the bird on the pole was there for. He was visiting all the states in America, and stopping off at every town to have a look round before taking his wife out to dine in the evening. 🤣
I'm always surprised how big some of these abandoned downtowns are for the original peak populations of 1000 people. Frosts downtown looked big for a small peak population back in the day. Frosts downtown also looked like a time capsule from the 1920's, and the 1930's. It is amazing that these empty down town buildings are still standing despite being empty for decades. I'm sure the small towns can't afford to knock them down.
I’m from California and I completely agree with you. Luckily my job is remote and I can move anywhere in America that I choose. I don’t plan on staying in CA much longer.
The crime issue is easy… The FBI made crime reporting voluntary so most big crime cities immediately stopped reporting crime- including LA & NY to name a couple. 40% of areas no longer report to the FBI at all. That is skewing the math.
We have made videos in all three places. When I think about the saddest place I've been, it's Coolidge, Texas. It just seemed like a sad and desperate place. We left $10 in a blessing box in Coolidge because it gave us those feelings. Great video.
I really like how he golden hour effect gives sort of an odd visual appeal to these storefronts on the empty main streets. There's a really interesting contrast between the brightly lit facades and the gutted interiors.
What Prop 47 did is increase the dollar amount by which theft can be prosecuted as a felony from $400 to $950 to adjust for inflation and cost of living. But most shoplifting cases are under $400 dollars to begin with, so before Prop 47 and after Prop 47, there isn’t any difference.
@@JoeandNicsRoadTrip: They're arrested in CA too. California Penal Code 459.5 - Shoplifting merchandise and it is valued at $950 or less under this statute is always a misdemeanor offense that carries a penalty of up to 6 months in a county jail and a maximum fine of $1,000.
Just for information, according to Google, In Texas, in general, it is considered a felony offense if you take any item valued at over $2,500. Any item between $2,500 and $30,000 is a state jail felony, with prison time lasting 180 days to two years. Felony theft is charged to those who take items valued between $30,000 and $150,000.Mar 12, 2024
Such sad little towns. It'd be interesting to know who is committing the crimes. Prop 47 is ridiculous! I liked seeing all the cats and dogs - even the chickens. Looking forward with anticipation to seeing the next trip's videos. There should be some good eating along that route. The plantations outside of New Orleans are pretty. Stay safe and keep adventuring for us!
Dear sir. May I know the camera you use for all your gorgeous videos pls. Your storytelling is such a nice and refreshing thing. No jump cuts no 10 thousand frame changes in a minute. It's Easy watch and sort of makes you calm.. hm
Bonnie & Clyde lived in the wrong era! I think their highest take was under $1.5k, they hit mostly gas stations and back country banks, of course that's in 1930s dollars so that would be about $28k today. But robbers and thieves can get a $950 deductible? Wow! I must not be understanding some of this, can a robber go to ten different stores and get $950 each, or $9,500 a day? If Joe and Nick's TH-cam earnings whittle they can always go the Bonnie & Clyde route or Nick & Joe in Cali. I don't think I would have the stomach to own a merchandise store there, blood pressure would get too high. One would almost have to sit on top of their store with a shotgun every night, or just let thieves take everything. I know I'm missing something legal element here.
I know I had mentioned something a number of months back while you were in Missouri, if you want historic and a pretty big city St. Joseph, Missouri but if you'd prefer small or dying towns, Dawn, Ludlow, Blue Mound, Utica, Gower, Easton, Stewartsville, Mooresville, Breckenridge, Sampsel, Lock Springs, Jamesport (great Amish stuff), Kidder, Trenton (railroad town with a museum), Nettleton, Wheeling, Meadville, etc. There isn't much left of these towns (the small ones); however, if you look up Livingston County Missouri history, these towns were booming for one thing or another. So if you want to provide the boom history and then compare that to what these towns are now, that may be of interest to some people. And depending, you may get a chance to talk to some very nice people who love to tell stories.
A midwestern town of 600 with a median household income of $78K would have a tiny but occupied and maybe cute downtown (see your vids from NE, ND, etc.). Texas small towns not close to a big city just hit different.
Hi boys just puzzled why there is no for sale signs on the buildings here in England it would be full of for sale signs keep up the good work really enjoying these ghost towns you go through all the best Mike Manchester England
Very good video. I have several comments. First, I wonder why Frost is not doing better due to its proximity to DFW? As to Dawson, I went through this town on my way to Kilgore, Texas a couple of years ago. Also, Braniff International Airways flight 352 crashed near Dawson on May 3, 1968 after flying into a thunderstorm. As to Coolidge, the poles with the bird on top reminded me what was done in Martindale, Texas during the filming of "A Perfect World". Martindale is now a suburb of San Marcos, Texas, but still has an old downtown. The movie producers did not think the downtown had enough old buildings, so they put up poles and wrapped material around the poles that looked like brick. They also built a frame and poured a very thin layer of concrete over it to look like the entrance. Of course, after the movie was filmed, this stuff did not last long. The movie was set in the 1950s and several cars of that era were used. The ones in the close ups had great paint jobs. The others had a "paint the bugs and all" paint job.
In 1930 a tornado killed twenty-two people in Frost and injured more than fifty. Much of the business district was destroyed. The town started declining during the Great Depression.
I have been watching your channel for some time and I love it! What site do you use to find the stats? You are the only channel I have come across that shows the stats and I find that very helpful. I am originally from Wisconsin but have been living in the Philippines for the last 6 years with my wife and our son.
I'm not really sure that comparing crime rates per 100K is 'fair' for these low populace towns, seeing as how the more people, the greater opportunity for crime may skew the formula. Don't take this as criticism! Thanks for the hours of pure entertainment y'all provide for us, your vicarious thankful passengers!
ye, it would have been more interesting to see their actual crimefigures...I mean; it's not really fair to inflate a town of around 820 to a 100 k city.
I nearly choked when I saw you were in Frost, their PD used to have a guy nicknamed Elvis, cuz he looked like Elvis and was an impersonator. I’m sad to see you missed Hubbard, it’s a cute little town, and I want to live there lol. My in laws live just east of Dawson by maybe 5 miles on Highway 31, Dawson just got a new Dollar General Market, I guess they didn’t like Family Dollar getting all the business. Mind your speed in all of those little towns, I fought a ticket in Blooming Grove for 7 YEARS lol. But I won eventually!
Here in California we passed Prop 36 this time around which changes elements of Prop 47. Nice to see a peaceful video without any backtalk or smart mouth. Y'all know what I mean.
From that time Jesus began to preach and say “Repent [change your inner self-your old way of thinking, regret past sins, live your life in a way that proves repentance; seek God’s purpose for your life], for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
“There is no way anyone lives in there.” That’s precisely where some people do live because they can do it for free and no one expects to find anyone there.
It seems like at some point there will be a lot of hungry people in the big cities of California as the trend in Oakland was in your Oakland video where they are losing many of their stores.
Prop 36: California voters overwhelmingly passed Proposition 36 to increase punishments for some theft and drug possession offenses. With the passage of Prop 36, California will now undo some of the key provisions from Prop 47, which voters passed in 2014 to address prison overcrowding by reclassifying some theft and drug-related offenses as misdemeanors.
It's always interesting to see the towns with high incomes that look abandoned, and the poorer towns that are well kept. Makes you think that the numbers that the government pulls aren't corect.
It's so funny going on a rant about deprioritization of petty theft prosecutions causing crime in big cities while you're driving through a tiny town in a state that loves punishing criminals with a drastically worse crime rate. Maybe the answer is that it's not so simple as just being tough on crime makes communities safer.
When it gets to the point where reporting a crime is not worth the effort....crime is not reported. In addition, when you legalize things like drugs...or de-criminalize crime......then that makes the crime figures look better.
The maternal side of my family settled in Frost around 1901; my grandparents and an uncle or two are buried in the municipal cemetery. When I was growing up we attended the annual “Homecoming.” The town was badly mauled in a 1927 tornado. I have an aunt and uncle buried on the Dawson Municipal Cemetery; so you were exploring my mother’s original stomping grounds. I enjoyed your video very much, thank you.
I'm in England. Love your videos. Great presentation and no nonsense. Video quality is very good. I've loved the 'wild' west and especially Texas since I was a kid reading those cowboy books and watching stuff like Rawhide and wagon train on TV. Love Nevada and Arizona too. Great areas to explore.
As kids growing up in the '50's when the series "Robin Hood" was shown on American television, we all wanted to be "Merry Men" and everybody wanted to be Robin except me, my idol was the Sheriff of Nottingham who was deliciously evil, self- centered, narcissistic and corrupt, all the virtues I embrace to this day. One fellow always wanted to be maid Marion, but that is a story for another day.
With crime rates like this, there must be a big drug problem in these little towns.
Drugs, guns, lack of policing and I notice the statistics are incomplete. The first town seems to be a "manufactured" poor town by that I mean the income does not reflect what you see. People have wealth that they are hiding behind a facade of decrepit front. That reflects on a dishonesty that doesn't add up in the data.
Actually looking at other States $950 dollars to get to a felony is low. My State of Pennsylvania is $2000. It's been that way since I was a kid. Anything under is a misdemeanor
Amazing video, just like I am walking and looking around in person myself.
@@ronniekubin1992 Awesome, thank you! Exactly what I’m trying to do. 👍
Enjoyed the ride! Happy Thanksgiving to you both.
When you have a very small population of less than 1k, one bar fight can raise the crime stats by a few percentage points. Also if you have one or two rich families in the town, it can raise the mean household income stats as well.
I agree. Stats can be very deceiving. I'll bet rapes and murders are way below LA's
I like this channel it reminds me of Charles Kuralt's On The Road segments. So thanks for taking us a long for the ride.
Just an FYI you described Prop 47 correctly except for one thing, the governor didn't sign it. It was a ballot initiative so the government had no choice in executing it. Propositions become part of the constituion and the legislature and the governor cannot reverse it. So another ballot initiative would have to be voted for to repeal it. In other words we did it to ourselves.
I'm a retired Los Angeles area cop ( 88 to 07). Grew up in Ft. Worth. The dollar amount for grand theft was about half that when I worked. The exception being avocados. Farmers have a lot of "juice" in the legislature. Crime reporting depends on what neighborhood you are in. Violent crime is widely reported. Theft depends on the neighborhood. Middle class and above generally report everything. Much of Los Angeles is occupied by people in the country illegally. They will report violent crime but tend not to report theft. People in Burbank, Glendale etc...will report property crime.
Property crime is all supposed to be "paid for" by insurance. What that means is everyone pays for it.
It's a shame , the police in Dallas Tx. Gets a call of a car theft ,they don't care anymore either !! Crimes over $25,000 maybe will get an officer to your door to take the report !! The judges are all democrats and city hall also
High income in that area is more than likely due to producing natural gas wells. Central N. Tx. has lots of producing wells. Raises that average quickly. That big bird was a Texas buzzard.
Another great trip through Tx. I love visiting these places with you guys since I will no longer be able to travel myself anymore. Thanks again for the great content!
Thank you Joe for recognizing the local fire departments. It is great to see the fire stations across America! Great job!
Under Proposition 36, the theft of money or property worth $950 or less would be punishable as a felony for people who have two or more previous convictions for some theft-related crimes. Under Proposition 36, a person would still be charged with a misdemeanor for the first two simple drug possession convictions but on the third conviction, a person would be charged as a felony and qualify for jail or prison time.
In 1968, Braniff Airlines flight 352 crashed east of Dawson. The crash occurred during a severe thunderstorm and killed all 85 aboard. There is an historical marker near the site on FM 709.
Multiple cat sightings = "A Good Cat Day". I also noticed that the cat was getting along with all those chickens....probably due to the fact Mr. Rooster is there to provide protection! ...Happy Thanksgiving week to you and your family Joe. Stay safe. .....Russell D.
Somehow some of these "abandoned towns" seem more beautiful than Gary Indiana & Camden NJ.
That's not a high bar to hurdle.
Pretty sure that was a black vulture you spotted. The featherless head is a big giveaway.
Yep, exactly like an image of one I found online.
I dont even wanna know what it looks like driving thru those towns @ nite😮. Great stuff Joe and Nicole. U guys stay safe and Happy Thanksgiving!
me & my wife live in Italy, TX! another small town not far from those you visited in this video. a bit shocked you did not pass by the domes in Dawson, a pretty unique housing option. the domes here are rad ! hope you enjoyed stopping by : )
I’m born and raised in Sacramento and this city has changed so drastically in just the last 6 or 7 years. Crime and homelessness is ridiculous! Can’t be mad when citizens start taking the law into their own hands to protect themselves and their property. I feel bad for the business. Lots of people here are starting to move out the city to nearby suburbs in neighboring Sacramento counties because they have their own police force and seem to enforce crime and homelessness
Nuts!!🤦🏾♂️
I live within Sacramento county, but my work is in Rocklin and most of my dealings are in Placer County. Much better there.
Love your vids and commentary, every Saturday morning coffee w/ Joe & Nicole! ❤🎉
Awesome!!
Your editing is perfect, loved it. Joe and Nic forever 🇺🇲
On the $950.00 for CA you just mentioned, I shake my head …… all you said is absolutely correct❤️
Keep shaking that head, lol
Most people go to stores and pay for the merchandise everyone is not thieves I assume and I think they don't want to tie up police with petty crimes to focus on more serious maybe
When you remove the P from preparation, you give it to the taxpayers right where the H goes.
Can't fix stupid.
Is it a jail overload issue and they don't want to build more taking money out of their pockets or do they think they are doing them a favor!! Petty stuff leads to bigger crimes. Less tolerance and give them accountability and the community and their lives will get better. I would rather live in a law and order state runned
by people with grit and integrity to protect our communities and families. The numbers speak the truth!!!
Always great content.
Id like to see you interview the locals, they could probably give you more insight of their community.
Nic Johnson does that. It seems to add equal amounts of insight and bias.
@@yeoldmetalhead6592So does Peter fantala
The cost to process the crime is likely more than the cost of "writing it off". However the hidden cost to the shopkeeper and society is another. Love the kitty sightings .
Whatever is going on in kooky California, it doesn't really explain the weird high crime rates in these bitty little places in Texas.
Cody & Kellie uploaded a TON of Terlingua, TX videos and yes, they talk to the locals. If you want any real objectivity, and the sights and the highlights of places WITH some of the locals it’s their channel to watch. 😊
Congrats on 500K Subs!!!!! happy to have been here since 2021!
Awesome, thank you!!!!
First! No zombies ever came, but everyone's gone.
It’s amazing how some of these small Texas towns are collapsing while other Dallas area towns are booming. The town I live (Fate, Tx) is exploding in population.
Outside the Texas Triangle - especially in the Great Plains - TX seems to be drying up and blowing away.
Its awesome how the vines are slowly painting those walls mother nature style!!
Also I liked the change of pace when your daughter was with you.
Hello Joe and Nic that is a messed up law this video I found to be quite interesting be safe guys.
I always look forward to your posts. Thanks for what you do.
Too bad you never meet anybody to talk about how life is in these abandoned little towns, about what people do to work or get their groceries, about the community life, the security enforcement,...
Good idea
Yes that's some good stuff right there, come on Joe!
I wish you would get out of texas thanks
@@StephenSellers-dr3qt New around here? They've been all over the country. They're probably a little Texas heavy right now as they're from TX and are here for family around the holidays.
@@johnb.7979adding how large the state is, more little abandoned towns
My daughter lives in LA. Many crimes are not reported, even assaults when there is not a major injury. If you call and report it the police may not arrive for 1 - 2 days to get the report. They may not show up at all. Even if reported, the current (soon to be prior) DA's office would often not prosecute. My daughter was assaulted and ended up in the ER. A detective went to the assailant's apartment where she admitted it and her brother confirmed it - on body cam. The DA refused to prosecute. People walk into stores, grab an armload full, and walk out. No one stops them or reports it. The true crime rate in LA is at least twice what is reported.
That’s what I hear happens most of the time.
Yes, George Cascon was voted out recently. Thank the lord. His policies sucked.
As a resident of LA this is wildly untrue with police response time. Maybe it just depends on what station is dispatching? Also violent crime in the city has been down. Customers wouldn’t report retail crime but the stores sure do and police make arrests often not in public to make for a safer arrest (so bystanders aren’t caught in crossfire) Because of the security tags and serial numbers stolen merch can be easily trace when being sold.
@@nathan3595just say you're a liberal
@@nathan3595 retail stores don't report thefts unless the amount of goods is greater than $950 in value; tracking serial numbers for electronics, for example, is pointless unless there's a GPS tag is attached.
Great trip with you as usual, Joe & Nicole. With the topic of crime & other societal issues, I just have to say there's been a deletion of the word 'prevention' I surely must have been abducted & then placed into a totally different zone where things get more insane with each 24hr that passes. Dear Joe & Nic you have no idea how much you help me. Looking forward to seeing the deep south. Cheers. Be safe.
Probably a lot of people from the comments are wondering why you don’t occasionally interact with some locals to give your audience an insight into the culture of the towns you visit. Adds another dimension to your videos. You may have good reason and I as a subscriber would like to know. Many other TH-camrs that do the same thing do interact with the locals of the towns they visit. You may have already addressed this question as I imagine I’m not the first to ask or suggest it.
This is not a negative criticism of your work just something that pops up in the comments often.
The only reason i support Prop 47 is so stores pay for their own security instead of off loading petty shoplifting to police and by extension the taxpayers. Additionally police have more important crimes to pursue, my taxes shouldn’t be going towards petty shop lifting cases. Most smash and grabs happen at major retailers, I guess the ones that don’t have security figure it cheaper to eat the cost. Alot of these thieves are stealing more than $950. Also the $950 limit is just for a felony, it’s still against the law to steal. (Edit: LA resident here)
Great video as always btw🇺🇸😎
Joe, I agree with you on Prop 47. I don’t understand it either.
You wanted to know what the bird on the pole was there for. He was visiting all the states in America, and stopping off at every town to have a look round before taking his wife out to dine in the evening. 🤣
I'm always surprised how big some of these abandoned downtowns are for the original peak populations of 1000 people. Frosts downtown looked big for a small peak population back in the day. Frosts downtown also looked like a time capsule from the 1920's, and the 1930's. It is amazing that these empty down town buildings are still standing despite being empty for decades. I'm sure the small towns can't afford to knock them down.
An awesome video, very interesting as always! Another great cat day, too!! Thanks so much, Joe and Nic.😊💚
Thanks!!!
It's a Turkey Vulture and is probably looking for dinner.
Interesting.
A Buzzard, looking for something dead!
That's close to my guess. Since turkey vultures typically have red heads, I'm guessing this one is a black vulture.
@@jenna-a-gogoyeah that what I was thinking either one.
We call them buzzards 😊. They only eat dead carcasses
I’m from California and I completely agree with you. Luckily my job is remote and I can move anywhere in America that I choose. I don’t plan on staying in CA much longer.
Why do i always have to think of the movie: Silence of the lambs?
All those "abandoned" houses gives me serial killer vibes like that movie did 🤣🤣
Thank you for taking us on your trips, cannot travel very much any more and your videos fulfill my travel bug.
The crime issue is easy…
The FBI made crime reporting voluntary so most big crime cities immediately stopped reporting crime- including LA & NY to name a couple. 40% of areas no longer report to the FBI at all. That is skewing the math.
Enjoyed this video! Agree with you re: prop 47. Lovely animal sightings throughout these towns. ❤
As always great content.... love what you guy's do....and happy thanks giving...from friesland/Holland....max😁👍😉😎
This content deserves an award!
We have made videos in all three places. When I think about the saddest place I've been, it's Coolidge, Texas. It just seemed like a sad and desperate place. We left $10 in a blessing box in Coolidge because it gave us those feelings. Great video.
Is amazing that Frost, Tx is only 1 hour south of Dallas-Fort Worth.
I live in SoCal. I had a job in security for a big name retailer. Because of Prop 47, I quit that job. Horrible policy.
I really like how he golden hour effect gives sort of an odd visual appeal to these storefronts on the empty main streets. There's a really interesting contrast between the brightly lit facades and the gutted interiors.
he does film at golden hour doesn’t he?
The money in Frost Texas is the Fracking and Oil production. They make a lick..as you can see
The leaded glass doors in that second building are amazing,worth a few bucks for sure.
What Prop 47 did is increase the dollar amount by which theft can be prosecuted as a felony from $400 to $950 to adjust for inflation and cost of living. But most shoplifting cases are under $400 dollars to begin with, so before Prop 47 and after Prop 47, there isn’t any difference.
What's interesting is the threshold for felony theft is $950 in California but it's much higher in Texas at $2500.
In Texas you'll be arrested, regardless. That's the difference.
@@JoeandNicsRoadTrip: They're arrested in CA too. California Penal Code 459.5 - Shoplifting merchandise and it is valued at $950 or less under this statute is always a misdemeanor offense that carries a penalty of up to 6 months in a county jail and a maximum fine of $1,000.
@@TaterTots380 Yeah, not really. Few are actually getting arrested and that’s why it’s in the news all the time.
@@JoeandNicsRoadTrip What data supports this? "In the news all the time" doesn't mean much.
Just for information, according to Google,
In Texas, in general, it is considered a felony offense if you take any item valued at over $2,500. Any item between $2,500 and $30,000 is a state jail felony, with prison time lasting 180 days to two years. Felony theft is charged to those who take items valued between $30,000 and $150,000.Mar 12, 2024
it's got to the point that business owners are closing their businesses because of crime in LA and other big cities
Safe travels Joe & Nicole, Happy Thanksgiving
You just get what makes good content!
Thank you!!
Such sad little towns. It'd be interesting to know who is committing the crimes. Prop 47 is ridiculous! I liked seeing all the cats and dogs - even the chickens. Looking forward with anticipation to seeing the next trip's videos. There should be some good eating along that route. The plantations outside of New Orleans are pretty. Stay safe and keep adventuring for us!
Thanks, gator!!
Holy moly, that first town with a high income level 🤦♀️
Dear sir. May I know the camera you use for all your gorgeous videos pls. Your storytelling is such a nice and refreshing thing. No jump cuts no 10 thousand frame changes in a minute. It's Easy watch and sort of makes you calm.. hm
Thank you!!
Thanks for sharing, Joe. All the best from Australia.
Thanks, Richard!
I reckon there are a few of us Aussies watching. Love the work!
@@MattsScaleModels Awesome. 👍😀
I love your videos but this one is probably the most interesting one you've done ❤
Wow, thank you!
Bedroom Communities of Waco/Corsicana. Cheap land with good access to amenities. Nearby lakes are a plus!
Bonnie & Clyde lived in the wrong era! I think their highest take was under $1.5k, they hit mostly gas stations and back country banks, of course that's in 1930s dollars so that would be about $28k today. But robbers and thieves can get a $950 deductible? Wow! I must not be understanding some of this, can a robber go to ten different stores and get $950 each, or $9,500 a day? If Joe and Nick's TH-cam earnings whittle they can always go the Bonnie & Clyde route or Nick & Joe in Cali. I don't think I would have the stomach to own a merchandise store there, blood pressure would get too high. One would almost have to sit on top of their store with a shotgun every night, or just let thieves take everything. I know I'm missing something legal element here.
Phenomenal episode ❤
Happy Thanksgiving 🦃
I know I had mentioned something a number of months back while you were in Missouri, if you want historic and a pretty big city St. Joseph, Missouri but if you'd prefer small or dying towns, Dawn, Ludlow, Blue Mound, Utica, Gower, Easton, Stewartsville, Mooresville, Breckenridge, Sampsel, Lock Springs, Jamesport (great Amish stuff), Kidder, Trenton (railroad town with a museum), Nettleton, Wheeling, Meadville, etc. There isn't much left of these towns (the small ones); however, if you look up Livingston County Missouri history, these towns were booming for one thing or another. So if you want to provide the boom history and then compare that to what these towns are now, that may be of interest to some people. And depending, you may get a chance to talk to some very nice people who love to tell stories.
A midwestern town of 600 with a median household income of $78K would have a tiny but occupied and maybe cute downtown (see your vids from NE, ND, etc.). Texas small towns not close to a big city just hit different.
Frost is probably filled with people commuting to Dallas
Hi boys just puzzled why there is no for sale signs on the buildings here in England it would be full of for sale signs keep up the good work really enjoying these ghost towns you go through all the best Mike Manchester England
Thanks, Mike!!
Happy Thanksgiving Joe and Nic 🦃
Thanks 👍
There is no respect for the law in California. Great video Joe and Nic! Thanks
Very good video. I have several comments. First, I wonder why Frost is not doing better due to its proximity to DFW? As to Dawson, I went through this town on my way to Kilgore, Texas a couple of years ago. Also, Braniff International Airways flight 352 crashed near Dawson on May 3, 1968 after flying into a thunderstorm. As to Coolidge, the poles with the bird on top reminded me what was done in Martindale, Texas during the filming of "A Perfect World". Martindale is now a suburb of San Marcos, Texas, but still has an old downtown. The movie producers did not think the downtown had enough old buildings, so they put up poles and wrapped material around the poles that looked like brick. They also built a frame and poured a very thin layer of concrete over it to look like the entrance. Of course, after the movie was filmed, this stuff did not last long. The movie was set in the 1950s and several cars of that era were used. The ones in the close ups had great paint jobs. The others had a "paint the bugs and all" paint job.
In 1930 a tornado killed twenty-two people in Frost and injured more than fifty. Much of the business district was destroyed. The town started declining during the Great Depression.
I have been watching your channel for some time and I love it! What site do you use to find the stats? You are the only channel I have come across that shows the stats and I find that very helpful. I am originally from Wisconsin but have been living in the Philippines for the last 6 years with my wife and our son.
The site I use is Census Reporter, which pulls the latest estimates from the U.S. Census. 😀👍
@@JoeandNicsRoadTrip Thank you! With that Census Reporter, it is what really pulled me into your channel. Keep up the great work!
With population of 600 I would imagine the crime is Saturday night fights in the local bar which repeat several weeks a year.
I'm not really sure that comparing crime rates per 100K is 'fair' for these low populace towns, seeing as how the more people, the greater opportunity for crime may skew the formula. Don't take this as criticism! Thanks for the hours of pure entertainment y'all provide for us, your vicarious thankful passengers!
Yes i think there are statistical problems when you get to towns of less than 1000. Probably need a different metric for low populatioin places.
ye, it would have been more interesting to see their actual crimefigures...I mean; it's not really fair to inflate a town of around 820 to a 100 k city.
You're 1000% correct!! Unrecorded crime is rampant in California, and the out of sight out of mind politicians there field ALL THE BLAME
I nearly choked when I saw you were in Frost, their PD used to have a guy nicknamed Elvis, cuz he looked like Elvis and was an impersonator. I’m sad to see you missed Hubbard, it’s a cute little town, and I want to live there lol. My in laws live just east of Dawson by maybe 5 miles on Highway 31, Dawson just got a new Dollar General Market, I guess they didn’t like Family Dollar getting all the business. Mind your speed in all of those little towns, I fought a ticket in Blooming Grove for 7 YEARS lol. But I won eventually!
Frost is a farming community with a lot of old money handed down over generations.
The streets are very clean, with no litter.
Here in California we passed Prop 36 this time around which changes elements of Prop 47.
Nice to see a peaceful video without any backtalk or smart mouth. Y'all know what I mean.
Good to see the people of California were listened to.
Yeah, we know what you mean, and no noisy, uncomfortable shoes, either.
From that time Jesus began to preach and say “Repent [change your inner self-your old way of thinking, regret past sins, live your life in a way that proves repentance; seek God’s purpose for your life], for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
@@salometipsandtricks2786 lol
@@mexicounexplainedDo not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. (Galatians 6:7 NKJV)
Loved that beautiful old gas station from the golden years of gas station design hidden behind that food trailer.
“There is no way anyone lives in there.” That’s precisely where some people do live because they can do it for free and no one expects to find anyone there.
Joe & Nicole, love your videos ❤. ps Cats too😺👍
It seems like at some point there will be a lot of hungry people in the big cities of California as the trend in Oakland was in your Oakland video where they are losing many of their stores.
That much income and high crime does not make sense. Thanks for the tour.
Prop 36: California voters overwhelmingly passed Proposition 36 to increase punishments for some theft and drug possession offenses. With the passage of Prop 36, California will now undo some of the key provisions from Prop 47, which voters passed in 2014 to address prison overcrowding by reclassifying some theft and drug-related offenses as misdemeanors.
Another interesting video. You should show the names of notable people who were born in these small towns, Wikipedia lists them.
Probably nobody.
He usually does.
So many places like this in the US where the downtown has no function.
I live on the west coast I took a trip to Louisiana to visit a friend It sure is different found out it has the highest crime rate in Louisiana
It's always interesting to see the towns with high incomes that look abandoned, and the poorer towns that are well kept. Makes you think that the numbers that the government pulls aren't corect.
I’m against it. Stealing is stealing regardless of the dollar amount.
Prop 47 is when the authorities give up.
It's so funny going on a rant about deprioritization of petty theft prosecutions causing crime in big cities while you're driving through a tiny town in a state that loves punishing criminals with a drastically worse crime rate. Maybe the answer is that it's not so simple as just being tough on crime makes communities safer.
When it gets to the point where reporting a crime is not worth the effort....crime is not reported. In addition, when you legalize things like drugs...or de-criminalize crime......then that makes the crime figures look better.