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Yes, when you consider the preplanned ambush covered three sides of the stagecoach and the two survivors who escaped were on foot in the middle of the desert. So presumably you’ve got two on foot with one wounded, escaping in the dry heat of the desert, with 30 or more armed attackers presumably on horse back chasing them doesn’t provide any probability for a successful escape. Whether the attackers were Indians, renegade settlers, Mexican bandits or a mixture of all the fact that nothing supposedly was taken is puzzling at best to me. The wild west of the 1870’s was hard on everyone and the fact that nothing was taken just doesn’t fit with me. However if a strong box of money being transferred to a bank which was common practice of the day, was taken that could be the reason the dead weren’t robbed but leaving the firearms would be even more puzzling. Thank you for this interesting piece of history. I happen to be a new follower and subscriber of your channel and believe you do an exceptional job in presenting the information especially your voice and clear pronunciation of words. This makes everything easy to understand as well as heightens the interest thank you. Wishing you and family a Happy Thanksgiving.
I just have to comment, don’t often, but after a lot of stories about scams and nefarious influencers being the majority of what I’ve seen today, watching this channel is always refreshing, enjoyable, and educational. It’s great to see someone just trying to tell an interesting story and show us places we might never think about or even know existed.
As a native Prescottonian, I’d like to thank you on behalf of every local for saying Prescott the proper way. Artfully crafted video, too. Well chosen images and photographs, with straight to the point and informational dialogue.. you’ve gained a new subscriber!😊
If I may... you are correct . I moved to prescott in 1995... from Mesa AZ and if you dident pronounce Prescott correctly.. you were corrected... I remember that .. But not as much these days in 2024 .. a lot of that generation has passed.. but your comment ... encouraged my comment.. Haven't heard that in a long time.. thank you .
Wickenburg....awe, i was raised there 50s-60s family were pioneer Sheep and Cattle from Spain...we also owned the famed La Cabana cocktail lounge which my grand father built in early 40s..
I did the same trip you recorded about 15 years ago, and it all looks the same. Another sight down the road, a bit southeast of Salome, was the true start of the western Indian wars, when a small wagon train of people going to California for the Gold Rush, where attacked while camped by a water hole in 1849. The Yavapai were blamed for that as well.
Good morning Steve.....watching your video. Just fyi that I am promoting your site to family and friends. They are very enjoyable and informative episodes! Thanks Steve.
From a motive standpoint, the most likely people to engineer something like this is people who wanted the land and had a motive to make sure that the Indians were pushed off of their land onto the reservation. Agree that the passenger who just suspiciously left may have had something to do with it. An investigation into who benefited from the land transfers that came later would probably be worth a look.
I believe your theory about considering Who Benefited (or thought they would) from the removal of the Yavapai, might be behind the massacre. Although, I doubt "they" would hire a Dozen, let alone 35 men to commit murder. Too many "loose ends"... More likely the Mining Interests, and others, just Exploited the event. While not common, there were at least several incidents a year in the region. So, exploiting one or more of them is far more practical than "Scheming" an incident from scratch. Most likely it was a group of "road agents" bandits who targeted stage coaches and other travelers. White, Mexican, and tribal peoples, were all part of such gangs. My guess is the attackers anticipated that the stage was carrying a "strong box" or other valuable cargo. Murdered the unfortunate driver and 5 of the passengers. They were disciplined enough to go after only what they thought was valuable. Not bother searching for the two survivors. If there was a strong box, they took it. Not bothering with personal items, even the firearms or horses, that could be identified. There were some "road agents" who knew that taking personal items was the most likely way to get caught, and convicted. Many local folks didn't care as much about "Wells Fargo's money" but a criminal in possession of Mr. Smith's engraved pocket watch, or Mr. Jones' nickel plated revolver. Horses, even those belonging to a stage line, were Branded. As for the guy who got off the stage, I doubt he was involved. Even if he learned something, how would he have communicated it to the ambushers? It seems they had trackers (mentioned in the video that they discovered "moccasin prints" and an estimate of how many attackers). How could a man on foot go Faster than the stage coach. There was a Grand Jury, so they must have been able to verify the approximate time he left the stage and got back to town. How could he Know there would be Survivors to testify about when he got off the stage coach? I think the man who got off the stage, is similar to the stoker who stayed to finish his beer, and missed the Titanic by a minute! An assistant Purser hired another man standing by, and the tardy drinker lost his job, but Saved his Life!
I found the same thing when investigating the massacre for the book I'm writing about it. It's the second biggest event in Wickenburg history, after the discovery of the Vulture Mine, yet almost no one knows anything about it. Strange, considering even the town's garbage cans depict the Wickenburg stage coach.
Thanks for clarifying. I pass that marker at the entrance of Flying E Ranch road every time I go to the airport. I read the sign once about 40 years ago, never explored it further. This was fun !! You did a great job Mister.
My 2 great aunts were born in Ash Fork, AZ in the late 1880's. My Aunt Jenny told me when I was 10 (in 1969) how afraid she was of the Indians as a little girl. I'm sure she heard plenty about these sorts of killings growing up, from both sides. Eventually my great grandpa moved on to San Diego. But old Arizona and its shaky start wasn't forgotten by all those who were there at the time. My money is on a revenge type of killing, possibly involving Mexicans too. Before the whites showed up, there was a lot of theft and murder between them, and the natives. As a trucker, I passed thru Wickenburg hundreds of times over the decades. Thanks for the reminder, Steve!😊
I am also a truck driver, and have been through Wickenburg many times. I’ll think of it a little bit differently now whenever I drive through there. LOL! I wonder if there’s anywhere to park my rig so I can check out that museum…🤔
Wife and I passed by here on our 2012 cross country trip from Virginia on Route 60. At the time, it was way too hot to venture out to the exact spot so thank you for doing it for us! 😂 As always, love to watch your adventures! Keep safe and looking forward to your next video!
8:31 Hey Steve, I know what you did here, even if you're not aware of it. The last video was a trip to "Sad Hill," the movie cemetery in Spain where the "The Good, the Bad & the Ugly" was shot. We last see the tombstone of the "Unknown" there. In THIS video when you're walking these rising grounds (8:18) it seems it's almost looks like an Arizona "Sad Hill" with its own Unknown tombstone. Back to back graveyard stories--each across the pond, how cool is is that! This video reminds of the movie "Hombre" with Paul Newman and Richard Boone (anybody remember Paladin?). They were two of a group on a stagecoach in Arizona, including two women-one gritty and the other a socialite who was the wife of a man that headed an Indian agency, and was stealing from them. Riding with them, Richard Boone was really part of the murderous gang that would attack the stagecoach. Boone was a really great bad-ass in this one. Newman's character was raised by the Apache and it was a significant element in the movie. I wonder if this movie was based on the incidents in today's video? Sounds like it might.
Yes, I remember Paladin. I was an avid fan of "Have Gun..." Even as a child, I really appreciated the moral ambiguity that was the show's hallmark. Very few situations are ever black-and-white. Life is almost always shades of gray. And Richard Boone was such a great actor!
yes Paladin! i never knew of the tv series untill just now lol but discovered the radio version with john dehner and alot with jack pallance a couple years ago, putting on my headphones to do yard work with old radio programs like paladin was my addictive ritual! lol last year i saw the movie you wrote sbout here hombre? and i saw it again a couple months later only it stared john wayne same movie different stars but no mistaking the beautiful country shown in both versions while traveling on that coach! awesome!
A lot of history of Arizona that I did not know until I found this channel . Thanks ,I can not wait to tell my AZ friends .When we were young, we used to hang out in the Northern tip of the White Tanks Mts. Wickenburg was not far from there.
Thank you for a great video and historical review. I love watching your videos. You do an excellent job of researching and explaining the history of your adventures. In addition, your story telling and voice are easy to listen to, not so much with other "Adventurers". Thanks again
Wickenburg is a bizarre place. Damn near the whole towns basically in a big wash and every few years parts of it flood and wash away and horses die. But people continue to build in the wash.
As a retired criminal investigator, that was my first thought as well. It is difficult to envision how the passenger could have been in cahoots with the attackers, as he was on foot then he left the stage several miles from the ambush site, and the attackers were also on foot. I believe that one or more white men were involved with targeting the stage, but my chief suspect was the one who swore he was told about Mexicans planning the robbery, and who provided alibis for the Yavapai spending money in Ehrenberg after the robbery, vouching that he was paying them to build a road. FWIW, he was paying them $0.50 per day, and they were observed spending $50 and $100 bills. 🙄
I think I read somewhere, but don't quote me, that the guy who got off the stage was later on the grand jury investigating the attack too. That seems awfully convenient, but it seems like no suspicion was ever cast on him, even at the time, so probably just amazingly good luck.
@@garygriffiths6998 At that time, $100 (or even $50) was a considerable fortune. Very few had that kind of money. Few merchants would have been able to even make change for a $100 bill.
Thank you for another American history lesson Steve. Sad that native American Indians always got the blame for such things like that massacre. With what you were saying, it sounds more like a set up by the person who got off the coach just after it left town. Or, he knew about it before the coach left town and used the excuse he forgot something just after leaving town.
I'm so glad I found you. You've rapidly become one of my 'go to' channels. I'm loving watching your videos telling the history of the old west. Thank you.
Been watching your videos for awhile now. Always enjoyed them. This one is no exception! Love the jail tree. Definitely interesting! Love that model of Wickenberg. Thanks for pointing out the book. You cover events in history that not too people hear about. Love that! That is a mystery about whether bodies were buried there. Thanks for the details of the attack. Interesting theorys!
I just noticed you now have over 200K subscribers! Wow! Congrats! I hope I added at least 10 people to that number. :) That looks like a great museum, and an interesting town. The problem with dry washes in the desert is that they can fill with water quite suddenly from rain miles away in the mountains. I would assume stage drivers would know to consider this. As a long time fan of mysteries, I do like the story that the courtesan and the other man who survived were in cahoots to steal some secret gold/cash, though the idea that the land the Yavapai were moved from having value is interesting to consider. In the case of the Oatmans, their brother survived only because he fell down a gully from high ground, and the Yavapai thought he was dead. With that flat terrain, I do wonder how two injured passengers escaped so many attackers to walk miles back to the town. Your adventures are always fun. History has left us so many puzzles. Happy Turkey Day to you and your family.
Love your approach to providing interesting and thought-provoking events. Nobody else does it as far as I know. In any case, love your approach. Often filming dirt and sagebrush!! Who knew that could grab anyone?
If you haven't already, a video on the dynamiting of Hassayampa Lake dam near Waggoner. High loss of life. Thank you for your wonderful stories of Arizona history ! Another story worth looking into was the killing of the Indian Agent at Camp Date Creek. Gruesome !
Very good presentation. I read this book about six years ago after I moved out here to the area and always wanted to visit Wickenburg and this site, too.
Another great presentation about something in my area that I didn’t know about. Steve you need to get a vehicle with four wheel drive so you don’t have to walk so much😊
Steve, wherever you go, I am there with you! I've been having a problem focusing all day long with all the political turmoil. I had one of your videos saved and it really did the trick! I forgot about reality for 20 minutes! Thanks pal, wish I was with you
Thanks for this story - a new one to this Limey Western aficionado. The business about looting the mail does add an odd dimension to the story - During the Irish War of Independence (1919-21) it was common for IRA soldiers to hold up or wreck trains and steal the mail sacks, going through them for any military letters they could find. (One lovely story relates how 'the boys' returned any private money they'd found to the stationmaster's office, and put a letter in the local paper telling people where to reclaim it!) That makes me wonder if the 'road agents' or natives were looking for something like that. The way some folks tried to blame the survivors adds another odd twist to the tale as well. As you say, though, I doubt now we'll ever really know the truth.
Thanks, Steve, appreciate the effort to bring us this little piece of little-known history. Also liked the backstory, all too often this context to events gets ignored.
Kroegen and Sheppard....and some Indians who wanted revenge. The mail is the give away. And the buried gold in the desert is always a great idea! Love your channel !!!!
I used to drive by Wickenberg on my way to and from horse shows. I couldn’t stop because of the horses in the trailer but always wondered what the history was. Thanks for the video!
It felt like they were trying to bring that Jail Tree back by locking you in with that slow and dull recording! You made it about as far as I did, Steve, before I said how long is he gonna stand here listening to this?! Lol
It goes on for quite awhile. I actually heard the whole thing right before I started filming because someone was standing there listening to it while I waited to record. I think it was at least 2-3 minutes long.
Channels like this are the reason TH-cam was invented!!
It's like you've not heard of money? You Tube is definitely handy & entertaining at times, but the creators & now the current owners are in this rodeo for $$$$$$s my friend, clear + simple!
Thanks.
That and 😺 videos.. it sure was not for civil rights and other ideas.. screwtube shadowbans you.. deletes your comments
@@russell-di8jsscrewtube is making it harder for content creators to make $$$
Amen!
It is hard to believe 35 people would not see two people getting away, especially not seeing a woman running away.
They apparently chased them for a bit but you'd think that many attackers could get two injured people.
Great theory, makes sense 👍
I also wonder if Barnett was involved somehow 🤔
Yes, when you consider the preplanned ambush covered three sides of the stagecoach and the two survivors who escaped were on foot in the middle of the desert. So presumably you’ve got two on foot with one wounded, escaping in the dry heat of the desert, with 30 or more armed attackers presumably on horse back chasing them doesn’t provide any probability for a successful escape. Whether the attackers were Indians, renegade settlers, Mexican bandits or a mixture of all the fact that nothing supposedly was taken is puzzling at best to me. The wild west of the 1870’s was hard on everyone and the fact that nothing was taken just doesn’t fit with me. However if a strong box of money being transferred to a bank which was common practice of the day, was taken that could be the reason the dead weren’t robbed but leaving the firearms would be even more puzzling.
Thank you for this interesting piece of history. I happen to be a new follower and subscriber of your channel and believe you do an exceptional job in presenting the information especially your voice and clear pronunciation of words. This makes everything easy to understand as well as heightens the interest thank you. Wishing you and family a Happy Thanksgiving.
It's a conspiracy, I tell ya.
I just have to comment, don’t often, but after a lot of stories about scams and nefarious influencers being the majority of what I’ve seen today, watching this channel is always refreshing, enjoyable, and educational. It’s great to see someone just trying to tell an interesting story and show us places we might never think about or even know existed.
Check out Trek Planner and Desert Drifter. Good stuff. Also Unworthy History.
Your journeys are easy for people to follow....good job thanks
Thanks.
I’ve been through Wickenburg dozens of times and never knew about this. Thanks for sharing, Steve!
Hehe, I muttered the same thing as I started this video. This guy does a great job with the history lesson.
Your're right Steve, Wickenburg itself is a neat little town with a well organized/curated small museum too. Fun to see!
Not if you live there only for tourists
As a native Prescottonian, I’d like to thank you on behalf of every local for saying Prescott the proper way.
Artfully crafted video, too. Well chosen images and photographs, with straight to the point and informational dialogue.. you’ve gained a new subscriber!😊
If I may... you are correct . I moved to prescott in 1995... from Mesa AZ and if you dident pronounce Prescott correctly.. you were corrected... I remember that .. But not as much these days in 2024 .. a lot of that generation has passed.. but your comment ... encouraged my comment.. Haven't heard that in a long time.. thank you .
Wickenburg....awe, i was raised there 50s-60s family were pioneer Sheep and Cattle from Spain...we also owned the famed La Cabana cocktail lounge which my grand father built in early 40s..
I think I just saw your name in my father’s 1957 yearbook. I’m hershkowitz/macias
... Another Wednesday with Steve, spectacular...
Glad you are here.
I love these tales of the old west, complete with monuments that maybe only Sidetrack Steve has seen in years!
Really enjoy going to Wickenburg. You’ve got a great channel.
Thank you very much!
Your voice is very calming and easy to listen to. I enjoy hearing about western history and seeing the places events actually occurred. Good work!
Another great video. Thank you, Steve, for teaching me more about Southwestern history. you really do have very interesting videos.
I did the same trip you recorded about 15 years ago, and it all looks the same.
Another sight down the road, a bit southeast of Salome, was the true start of the western Indian wars, when a small wagon train of people going to California for the Gold Rush, where attacked while camped by a water hole in 1849. The Yavapai were blamed for that as well.
Its nice that some places never change. It hard to get to so not a whole lot of visitors I guess.
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Good morning Steve.....watching your video. Just fyi that I am promoting your site to family and friends. They are very enjoyable and informative episodes! Thanks Steve.
Thank you, I really appreciate that!
Thanks!
Thank you, I really appreciate it.
From a motive standpoint, the most likely people to engineer something like this is people who wanted the land and had a motive to make sure that the Indians were pushed off of their land onto the reservation. Agree that the passenger who just suspiciously left may have had something to do with it. An investigation into who benefited from the land transfers that came later would probably be worth a look.
I believe your theory about considering Who Benefited (or thought they would) from the removal of the Yavapai, might be behind the massacre.
Although, I doubt "they" would hire a Dozen, let alone 35 men to commit murder. Too many "loose ends"...
More likely the Mining Interests, and others, just Exploited the event. While not common, there were at least several incidents a year in the region. So, exploiting one or more of them is far more practical than "Scheming" an incident from scratch.
Most likely it was a group of "road agents" bandits who targeted stage coaches and other travelers. White, Mexican, and tribal peoples, were all part of such gangs.
My guess is the attackers anticipated that the stage was carrying a "strong box" or other valuable cargo. Murdered the unfortunate driver and 5 of the passengers. They were disciplined enough to go after only what they thought was valuable. Not bother searching for the two survivors. If there was a strong box, they took it. Not bothering with personal items, even the firearms or horses, that could be identified.
There were some "road agents" who knew that taking personal items was the most likely way to get caught, and convicted. Many local folks didn't care as much about "Wells Fargo's money" but a criminal in possession of Mr. Smith's engraved pocket watch, or Mr. Jones' nickel plated revolver. Horses, even those belonging to a stage line, were Branded.
As for the guy who got off the stage, I doubt he was involved. Even if he learned something, how would he have communicated it to the ambushers?
It seems they had trackers (mentioned in the video that they discovered "moccasin prints" and an estimate of how many attackers). How could a man on foot go Faster than the stage coach. There was a Grand Jury, so they must have been able to verify the approximate time he left the stage and got back to town. How could he Know there would be Survivors to testify about when he got off the stage coach?
I think the man who got off the stage, is similar to the stoker who stayed to finish his beer, and missed the Titanic by a minute! An assistant Purser hired another man standing by, and the tardy drinker lost his job, but Saved his Life!
Wickenburg is a great little town. Across the street from the museum is a place called Rancho Bar 7. A lot of good food with excellent service.
Glad to see you got 200k subs love the content😊
Thanks. Its hard to believe.
I always like seeing a good TH-camr reaching another goal!
Another interesting story. I’ve been through Wickenburg many times and have never heard of this before.
I found the same thing when investigating the massacre for the book I'm writing about it. It's the second biggest event in Wickenburg history, after the discovery of the Vulture Mine, yet almost no one knows anything about it. Strange, considering even the town's garbage cans depict the Wickenburg stage coach.
Highly reminiscent of the western magazines of my youth, much appreciated and keep up the good work 🏜️
Top Notch as always Steve....cheers.
I agree! You do a great job!
I have no idea who's to blame but this was another stimulating vid and I appreciate the effort it took to produce it. Thanks Steve!
Thanks for clarifying. I pass that marker at the entrance of Flying E Ranch road every time I go to the airport. I read the sign once about 40 years ago, never explored it further. This was fun !! You did a great job Mister.
My 2 great aunts were born in Ash Fork, AZ in the late 1880's. My Aunt Jenny told me when I was 10 (in 1969) how afraid she was of the Indians as a little girl. I'm sure she heard plenty about these sorts of killings growing up, from both sides. Eventually my great grandpa moved on to San Diego. But old Arizona and its shaky start wasn't forgotten by all those who were there at the time. My money is on a revenge type of killing, possibly involving Mexicans too. Before the whites showed up, there was a lot of theft and murder between them, and the natives. As a trucker, I passed thru Wickenburg hundreds of times over the decades. Thanks for the reminder, Steve!😊
I am also a truck driver, and have been through Wickenburg many times. I’ll think of it a little bit differently now whenever I drive through there. LOL! I wonder if there’s anywhere to park my rig so I can check out that museum…🤔
? You were there in the 1800’s
@ConsciousConversations President Tyler still had living grandkids a while back
Thank you Steve and family for another fascinating episode, absolutely love your background music, see you next week ❤ ❤
Very Interesting.
Glad you think so!
Thanks, Steve. Interesting historical incident.
Wife and I passed by here on our 2012 cross country trip from Virginia on Route 60. At the time, it was way too hot to venture out to the exact spot so thank you for doing it for us! 😂
As always, love to watch your adventures! Keep safe and looking forward to your next video!
Thank you, I appreciate it.
Always enjoy your adventures into little known history! Beautiful blue sky & nice warm desert! Out east, we're wishing for that! Safe travels!👍🙏🙏
Born in Mesa. Currently living in Tucson.
Wishing for the deep woods!🤣👍
Love your history videos! Thanks for all the research you do to bring your viewers facts that you find. You are appreciated!!
8:31 Hey Steve, I know what you did here, even if you're not aware of it. The last video was a trip to "Sad Hill," the movie cemetery in Spain where the "The Good, the Bad & the Ugly" was shot. We last see the tombstone of the "Unknown" there. In THIS video when you're walking these rising grounds (8:18) it seems it's almost looks like an Arizona "Sad Hill" with its own Unknown tombstone. Back to back graveyard stories--each across the pond, how cool is is that!
This video reminds of the movie "Hombre" with Paul Newman and Richard Boone (anybody remember Paladin?). They were two of a group on a stagecoach in Arizona, including two women-one gritty and the other a socialite who was the wife of a man that headed an Indian agency, and was stealing from them. Riding with them, Richard Boone was really part of the murderous gang that would attack the stagecoach. Boone was a really great bad-ass in this one. Newman's character was raised by the Apache and it was a significant element in the movie. I wonder if this movie was based on the incidents in today's video? Sounds like it might.
Yes, I remember Paladin. I was an avid fan of "Have Gun..." Even as a child, I really appreciated the moral ambiguity that was the show's hallmark. Very few situations are ever black-and-white. Life is almost always shades of gray. And Richard Boone was such a great actor!
Yup. Loved Boone's character Paladin.
yes Paladin! i never knew of the tv series untill just now lol but discovered the radio version with john dehner and alot with jack pallance a couple years ago, putting on my headphones to do yard work with old radio programs like paladin was my addictive ritual! lol last year i saw the movie you wrote sbout here hombre? and i saw it again a couple months later only it stared john wayne same movie different stars but no mistaking the beautiful country shown in both versions while traveling on that coach! awesome!
A lot of history of Arizona that I did not know until I found this channel . Thanks ,I can not wait to tell my AZ friends .When we were young, we used to hang out in the Northern tip of the White Tanks Mts. Wickenburg was not far from there.
Another great video Steve! And another place on my 'go-to' list. Thanks for taking us along!
As a docent at the museum in Wickenburg, I did extensive research on the massacre. You did a great job on your video and narration. Thanks.
Thank you, that means a lot.
This was one of your best! Thank you for always educating us with so much history!
Thank you for a great video and historical review. I love watching your videos. You do an excellent job of researching and explaining the history of your adventures. In addition, your story telling and voice are easy to listen to, not so much with other "Adventurers". Thanks again
Wickenburg is a bizarre place. Damn near the whole towns basically in a big wash and every few years parts of it flood and wash away and horses die. But people continue to build in the wash.
Poor horses.
Are the people heartless?
Thanks again, Steve. Your videos help me immensely.
Great content - Thank you for all the effort you put into this
I'm suspicious of the guy who left the stage because he "forgot something " 🤔
As a retired criminal investigator, that was my first thought as well. It is difficult to envision how the passenger could have been in cahoots with the attackers, as he was on foot then he left the stage several miles from the ambush site, and the attackers were also on foot. I believe that one or more white men were involved with targeting the stage, but my chief suspect was the one who swore he was told about Mexicans planning the robbery, and who provided alibis for the Yavapai spending money in Ehrenberg after the robbery, vouching that he was paying them to build a road. FWIW, he was paying them $0.50 per day, and they were observed spending $50 and $100 bills. 🙄
I think I read somewhere, but don't quote me, that the guy who got off the stage was later on the grand jury investigating the attack too. That seems awfully convenient, but it seems like no suspicion was ever cast on him, even at the time, so probably just amazingly good luck.
@@garygriffiths6998 At that time, $100 (or even $50) was a considerable fortune. Very few had that kind of money. Few merchants would have been able to even make change for a $100 bill.
Yeah, the guy thought it was a better idea to walk back to town on foot by himself than it was to proceed with the party. Obviously he knew something
Being afoot by oneself out in the lawless desert wilderness was a risky proposition in those days, and still is.
Thank you for another American history lesson Steve. Sad that native American Indians always got the blame for such things like that massacre. With what you were saying, it sounds more like a set up by the person who got off the coach just after it left town. Or, he knew about it before the coach left town and used the excuse he forgot something just after leaving town.
Awesome channel!!
Thank you.
I'm so glad I found you. You've rapidly become one of my 'go to' channels. I'm loving watching your videos telling the history of the old west. Thank you.
Just found this channel.
Love you clear voice.
Perfect timing. I need this next 15 minutes of adventure.
You do a real nice job with these videos.
Thank you.
Good stuff MrSteve😎
Thank you.
Another wonderful video from Steve and I wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving, especially to Steve and his family!!
Your shows are great. Keep it simple and great narration
I've been here 2 mins and I already know this Channel Rocks 😊
Thank you STEVE I really enjoy your channel bud! Keep it coming please!
Always great content in your videos! Keep up the good work, these stories need to be told!
Very interesting story,thanks for another outstanding video and Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family🤗😎🤗😎
I appreciate the history lessons that you provide, and also your professionalism...
Well done an great job. You are always outstanding in your field.
This is one of your best videos. Thank you.
Been watching your videos for awhile now. Always enjoyed them. This one is no exception! Love the jail tree. Definitely interesting! Love that model of Wickenberg. Thanks for pointing out the book. You cover events in history that not too people hear about. Love that! That is a mystery about whether bodies were buried there. Thanks for the details of the attack. Interesting theorys!
Great history lessen Steve, will patiently wait for the next video...
I just noticed you now have over 200K subscribers! Wow! Congrats! I hope I added at least 10 people to that number. :) That looks like a great museum, and an interesting town. The problem with dry washes in the desert is that they can fill with water quite suddenly from rain miles away in the mountains. I would assume stage drivers would know to consider this. As a long time fan of mysteries, I do like the story that the courtesan and the other man who survived were in cahoots to steal some secret gold/cash, though the idea that the land the Yavapai were moved from having value is interesting to consider. In the case of the Oatmans, their brother survived only because he fell down a gully from high ground, and the Yavapai thought he was dead. With that flat terrain, I do wonder how two injured passengers escaped so many attackers to walk miles back to the town. Your adventures are always fun. History has left us so many puzzles. Happy Turkey Day to you and your family.
Love your approach to providing interesting and thought-provoking events. Nobody else does it as far as I know. In any case, love your approach. Often filming dirt and sagebrush!! Who knew that could grab anyone?
Thanks, mister. Love your work...
If you haven't already, a video on the dynamiting of Hassayampa Lake dam near Waggoner. High loss of life. Thank you for your wonderful stories of Arizona history ! Another story worth looking into was the killing of the Indian Agent at Camp Date Creek. Gruesome !
Nothing is better than a good mystery.
Yep.
Thanks for sharing.
Very good presentation. I read this book about six years ago after I moved out here to the area and always wanted to visit Wickenburg and this site, too.
Even as a youth my favorite subject was history. This was so interesting and well done. New sub.
It is great to be able to see all the countryside you show.
4:58 Thank you sir! I really respect that, and your commitment to the right kind of visitation to lands in the west!
Oh wow! I have drove through Wickenburg dozens of times and stayed overnight in 2016. They have a hangmans tree downtown still
Another great presentation about something in my area that I didn’t know about. Steve you need to get a vehicle with four wheel drive so you don’t have to walk so much😊
I'm an Arizona native and I have never heard of this. Great video, thanks.
Our pleasure!
Thank you for your channel. I look forward to every episode!
Fantastic!! Another great episode! Good job 👍 and thanks for the effort.
Target shooting is not allowed, with bullet holes in the sign! Seen many of these in my day!
Techncally the shooter stood outside, where the rule did not apply.
Yep that kind of senseless and unsafe property destruction by firearm mostly by irresponsible firearms owners is still a problem everywhere.
I enjoy your adventures. I'm just an old broad and my adventure days are done. I appreciate you for sharing your travels, thank you
another good, well researched, video...... thx Steve.....
I'm going with someone knew there was something of value onboard.
INTERESTING VIDEO SIDETRACK...YOUR HARD WORK IS MUCH APPRECIATED !!
Steve, wherever you go, I am there with you! I've been having a problem focusing all day long with all the political turmoil. I had one of your videos saved and it really did the trick! I forgot about reality for 20 minutes! Thanks pal, wish I was with you
Thanks for this story - a new one to this Limey Western aficionado. The business about looting the mail does add an odd dimension to the story - During the Irish War of Independence (1919-21) it was common for IRA soldiers to hold up or wreck trains and steal the mail sacks, going through them for any military letters they could find. (One lovely story relates how 'the boys' returned any private money they'd found to the stationmaster's office, and put a letter in the local paper telling people where to reclaim it!) That makes me wonder if the 'road agents' or natives were looking for something like that. The way some folks tried to blame the survivors adds another odd twist to the tale as well. As you say, though, I doubt now we'll ever really know the truth.
Haven't watched you in a while, this video just happened to pop up on my suggestion list. Hope you had a good thanksgiving.
Love your work and really enjoy the history lessons.
Thank you for my weekly history lesson! Happy Thanksgiving 🍁🦃
Great episode Steve!
Thanks, Steve, appreciate the effort to bring us this little piece of little-known history. Also liked the backstory, all too often this context to events gets ignored.
Great content! Very interesting. I have been to Wickenburg several times but had no idea of this history mystery. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing with us. Great job and very interesting.
Kroegen and Sheppard....and some Indians who wanted revenge. The mail is the give away. And the buried gold in the desert is always a great idea! Love your channel !!!!
Thanks for coming to my hometown, Steve!!!!
Thanks for a great video, from Mira Mesa!
Another great video Steve.
The three “E’s”
Educational, Entertaining
Enthralling!
I just made that up !
But I have watched a good handful of your videos. Very good !
I enjoyed this history lesson. Thanks!
Wickenburg native. Well done! Thank you!
Hello from Upstate NY in the Hudson Valley. I love this channel ❤
I used to drive by Wickenberg on my way to and from horse shows. I couldn’t stop because of the horses in the trailer but always wondered what the history was. Thanks for the video!
Thanks Again Steve!
It felt like they were trying to bring that Jail Tree back by locking you in with that slow and dull recording! You made it about as far as I did, Steve, before I said how long is he gonna stand here listening to this?!
Lol
It goes on for quite awhile. I actually heard the whole thing right before I started filming because someone was standing there listening to it while I waited to record. I think it was at least 2-3 minutes long.
Desert Caballeros Musem is my favorite in all of Arizona.
It's a great museum. Amazing art collection in there too.
@@SidetrackAdventures One of the best western historyand art museums anywhere.
That was really interesting. Thanks for another great adventure