Exactly...if you watch their podcast you would know that whenever there's a Hazard debate they will always disrespect Hazard but here there's no other choice since City don't really have that great lw
@@DS-dw3pzfunny how they put Sterling in a top 10 but leave off mane, if Sterling didn’t go Chelsea I feel like Rory would’ve allowed him to be in the list
Kdb and rodri have to be in, both best in their respective positions, it's lampard Vs yaya. Yaya had the bigger peak season in 13/14 but overall lampard better. Do think yaya gets slept on for how his career ended.
@tuneswarriors5874 Makelele over Rodri tbh. Rodri scores more from DM but with this combined XI you won't need those goals. In terms of the traditional responsibilities of a holding midfield player, Makelele was better for me. Those Chelsea defences in the mid 2000s were so good not just because of the backline and keeper but because of Makelele. And can you imagine if Makelele was coached by Guardiola? That would've been an unbelievable midfield.
@tuneswarriors5874 Prem legacy sure. Maklele's overall football legacy is difficult to beat when you consider his impact on all the clubs he played for.
People will disagree with rory but hes right. Carvalho was a way better player than kompany. The most disrespected and underpreciated player in premier league history. I never see him even in conversations when discussing the greats.
Tbf I think stones or dais or even both could easily eclipse both of them by the end of their Man City careers if they continue at this level. Even right now it’s a debate between the 4 in terms of their PL careers
@@kingkwakster501Man City Clean sheets is not the defense but possession football. Chelsea it was more down to their tough defense. Look at the two at International Level then realize how at times they concede cheap goals
Drogba was a big part of the reason why Chelsea conceded so few goals when Mourinho came. In an era where everyone was playing with strike partnerships up front, Drogba had the presence, power, and pace to lead that Chelsea line alone, which gave them an extra body in midfield and made the 1-0's and 2-0's possible. Plus can you imagine Drogba on the end of those KDB crosses 🥶
@@MohammedArif-rn5cu and how many prem Drogba won 🤔 , jokes aside Drogba was nightmare in corners tbf , Chelsea and Liverpool were the teams I used watch during our rough City times in 2000 & 2007 .
Drogba could score all sorts of goals, bully the defenders etc. Goals to game ratio is meh, since Aguero played in a way more attacking team, whereas Drogba played under some mega defensive managers.
sergio had to adapt himself in order to play for pep he scored tons of goals playing in counterattacking style and adapted possession and still was a beast
@coreyblakee332 The big game thing was a bit of a myth, Chelsea's biggest games in the league every season were against United, and his record against them was awful
I could argue Aguero could score a greater variety of goals than Drogba. Aguero was a very physical striker and was very good in the air and could also bully defenders. One thing Drogba couldn't do is dribble past a defence, which is what Aguero could do and did so on multiple occasions.
@@rohithraman6488 regardless hazard was never even close to balon dor contention like the OP mentioned, carrying a mid chelsea dosent make you better than neymar, bale. hazard gets to get compared to salah for the rest of his life that’s his level.
@@raymondflores1583 hazard was one of the best talents of his generation and that won't change. Many people have said that he was a top 5 player in the 18/19 season considering how good he was whilst carrying a mid chelsea team. That season he got 2nd highest motms behind Messi and highest assists in Europe's top 5 leagues. He has 3rd highest motm awards from 2009 to 2019 behind messi and ronaldo. This revisionism on hazard is a joke just cause of his struggles at Real madrid. People appreciate Neymar's time at Santos but very few people talk about hazard at lille when he carried them to a double aged 20. He helped them win their first title since 1954, carried chelsea for years, and for Belgium he put in top class performances at the 2018 world cup and was voted 2nd best player behind modric. Longevity isn't just about what you do in your 30's, players who peaked early can also count towards longevity. From 2008 to 2019 he had 10 great seasons out of 11. The amount of individual accolades he picked up in his career is crazy. Let's be real, in Hazard's prime, the top 2 were definitely Messi and CR7. But on the tier of players below, Hazard was most certainly there when at his best. Lots of pundits and football experts and rival fans believe that. He finished 6th in UEFA player of the year in 2015, and 7th in FIFA best player in 2018. In the UEFA award only 5 players were voted best player in europe ahead of hazard in 2015 (Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Ronaldo, Buffon). That speaks volumes as to how good he was
not no more i used to think the same but if you put rodris position as holding mid no way. idk if rodri is holding, box to box or attacking mid but he is amazing.
@@Cdlee-oo9hn Rodri has to do less. He's won more because he plays for City under Pep. And he's very very good at what he's asked to do. But Pep's one of the greatest managers ever and he's created a system in which Rodri has a very specific role. Kante was someone who didn't benefit from being in a perfect system and having a specific role. He just had crazy individual ability and raised the level of every team/midfield imhe played in. Ranieri's Leicester, Dechamp's France, Conte's Chelsea, Tuchel's Chelsea etc. Different managers, different teams, different systems. Doesn't matter who he played for or with the guy just mopped everything up in midfield and made the jobs of his teammates so much easier. That's why Pogba looked like a completely different player for France and United. It's all about Kante's individual ability. With Rodri at City you just have to remember he's playing for one of the greatest managers ever, in the perfect conditions in a safe 433 alongside other players that know their roles inside out too. Still a world class player but Kante was another level.
@@Cdlee-oo9hn tbh i think rodri isnt better than rice f.e. but kante at his prime was by far the best dm in the world and also overall i would say he is a better technical player or dribbler.
The midfield for this is insanely difficult in fairness. Rodri, Kante, Yaya, Lampard, KDB, David Silva, Bernardo would all be completely reasonable shouts. You could probably even make a case for Essien and Ballack as well.
Wouldn't say there's a case for Ballack purely because he doesn't even get in a Chelsea all time midfield. I'd have Lampard, Makelele, Kante, Essien and even Fabregas over him. Ballack was unreal but he was only with us for 4 seasons and I'd say his peak was at Leverkusen and Munich. He's a victim of not playing for 1 club for most of his career. So he may not get in many combined 11s.
Rodri/KDB/Lampard for me. I hate it when people do these and don't pick a team that makes some level of tactical sense. If it's a 3 man midfield you need a holding midfielder not 3 number 10s.
@@darcy5754that’s recency bias. Rodri has been good for less than 2 years. He was not that good in 2021 season. Kante and makelele were fantastic for few seasons.
@rockymaniaster last season rodri is arguably the greatest season for a dm ever, only busquets comes close and is probably the only one ahead of him. Kante was good but he doesn't come close to rodri
Moments are what define a player, doesn't make them a better footballer technically but it does change peoples perception. I doubt you can remember Kompany's tackle success rate or pass complete percentage, do you do remember his goal against Leicester
Buvey literally said in terms of goal scoring trying to convince toure is better than lampard when lampard has scored the most goals for a midfielder in the entire prem
@@Deathmare235 i would’ve argued better than him. Drogba was not only big game player, he used to lead the line alone most of the times. He used to hold up alone against 2-3 defenders, even the best ones. Piques literally said that drogba was the most difficult one to deal with.
Oh ya, arguing stuff not related to the premier league should get him in a premier league XI. Anyways you shouldnt need an argument to know Aguero was better
@@ajinkyakelkar9983yeah but who would you rather have at a cup final? Because it wouldn't be Aguero. It's a tough one tbf Aguero the better striker vs Drogba the bigger player
It's not really, more goals, more assist, more goals per game, more titles, and one of the most iconic moments of premier league history; Drogba is top class but it's not close
@@kwameg23 don't think you even watched him play...Azpi was one of the most underrated defenders ever... defending wise at his peak no one could get past him
Kante barely getting a mention but trying to put in Rodri is madness to me. Never let this man on the show ever again for trying to suggest Grealish over Hazard
@@jackninetynine5036 Kante was class ever since Leicester lol...and if your definition of having good seasons is having more league titles means even I could have won the league with City so means I had more good seasons than Kante? Lmao
@@DS-dw3pz he was class for about 2 years after Leicester. Was in the French 2nd division before & injured/ Saudi after those few good seasons. Rodri’s been at a world class level for 5 years & is only 27
@@jackninetynine5036 so you are gonna just forget that UCL run where without Kante there's no way Chelsea would have won it lol...he even pocketed KDB lol...I'll give it to you that Rodri has more clutch moments that's it but other than that no way
@@DS-dw3pz i said he had a few world class years (like that year) Rodri was just as, if not more integral last year for city but also in the league year after year, their peaks are comparable but longevity Rodri is gonna be miles clear
I've seen players like Matic dominate Yaya Toure in a midfield battle over multiple games. I've never seen a player dominate a fit Ngolo Kante. Kante replaces Toure in that midfield for me.
Carvalho won back to back league titles with Porto. Culminating in a famous CL victory against all odds. He then goes on to dominate the PL for a few years as part of an elite defensive unit, but we're going with Kompany. That adds up.
Oh wow he won the Portuguese league with Porto. Oh wow he was given a CL medal for winning a EuropaLeague pathway after cheating ManUtd in R16 with the Scholes offside yer played ONside by 4 Porto players. Oh wow he won PL's with Chelsea who bought the league yet still lost it 3 should've been 4 years in a row and he never won CL with Chelski or RealMadrid etc...
@FootkerSnookball And yet, despite all that, he achieved more than Kompany. If you're gonna say that Chelsea bought the league, then you have to say the same for City and by extension, Kompany, so my point still stands. The numbers and the trophies still put Carvalho ahead of Kompany. Your observations don't negate my point, but you'd have to be smart to notice that. Lastly, how many CL titles did Kompany win again?
@multikaspergaming2348 Did he do well at RealMadrid?? 1 LaLiga in 3 seasons especially with Cristiano in the team is the bare minimum RealMadrid expect. As a defender you only have to concentrate on that when you've got the attacking players they had so he obviously didn't do his job that well plus he lost 5-0 to Barca and like with his time at Chelsea he didn't win the CL there either.
Before watching I’d go (cheating a bit but I’m gonna play a 3-5-2 to get my favorites in) Cech Carvalho Terry Kompany Kante Lampard KDB Hazard David Silva Drogba Aguero Special shout to Yaya but have to have Kante and Lamps in Edit after watching: I cannot believe they rate Bernardo Silva over David Silva. I think Bernardo is class, but that’s just so recency driven. David Silva was one of the top 5-10 players in the world for a time when city were far less dominant
@@rebelspoonyes. Not a lot of city fans would pick Haaland over Aguero. Nevermind city fans, not a lot of football lovers would do so either. Aguero was one of the best strikers of this generation. Haaland lacks a lot of qualities, still. Aguero was way more complete. And he has the best EVER record against the PL big 6.
Aguero was a much better goal scorer than Drogba and fair enough he had the big moment scoring that goal in the 90 plus minute to win the prem but Drogba could play against a back four on his own. Took his opportunity to score in clutch moments every time he could. Was a leader who stepped up at every opportunity. Still got 2 golden boots in the prem, agueros only got 1 and I don’t care what anybody says Drogba played in an era with some of the best defenders we’ve ever seen and bullied everyone. Other fans could only dream of what Chelsea fans got with Drogba, he scored 10 goals in 10 finals. Always turned up in big games in the champions league, aguero never done it in Europe. Football now days is all about stats but you had to be there to witness it. The guy was a beast
Maybe Drogba once rescued Rory's family from a burning building or something; Or maybe Aguero was the one that lit that building on fire. That's the only rationale I can come up with for the last 2 striker debates I have seen from him. His 10 other shouts were pretty good. Rodri close to eclipsing Yaya potentially, but Lamps is nailed on. Final combined team was probably as close to "correct" as they could have gotten.
not really, Aguero get many hattrick and is main penalt taker in City. whereas Drogba scores when it matters and Lampard takes all Chelsea penalties, and he scored when it matters in finals, Aguero was invisible in UCL final vs Chelsea to prove he useless when it matters
Lmao one off game is what you see and not the 10 years of consistency? I'd rather have a striker that scores 20+ goals consistently than have one that touches 13 goals twice lmao Drogba was mad average smh Aguero was way more complete and twice the player Drogba was. Best EVER record against the BIG 6 PL teams also shows that he was a big game player. Hat-trick against Neuer in CL too. The QPR goal? He has way more iconic moments than Drogba, and you're stuck on the CL final lmao just shush.
GK: Petr Cech LB: Ashley Cole CB: Vincent Kompany CB: John Terry RB: Pablo Zabaleta CM: Frank Lampard CDM: Yaya Toure CM: Kevin De Bruyne LW: Eden Hazard ST: Sergio Aguero RW: David Silva Manager- Pep Guardiola
I'm surprised nobody mentioned how bad the Bernardo Silva take is. A very good player, but honestly a little overrated- especially when you see him play for Portugal. David Silva was a much better player for club and country.
Kante should be one of the first names on the sheet. People forget he was integral to Leicester winning the league. Put David Silva or Rodri in that Leicester team & they don’t have the impact kante did. Sure he won the league the next season with Chelsea
I would put kdb - kante - lampard even though I know kante wasn't a CDM and kdb/lampard have similar roles..they are just the best players. Rodri comes close but kante's workrate puts him a level above
Yaya and Rodri seems to have more natural talent than Makelele and Kante. When they mention Chelsea in PL era it really means after Abramovich takeover.
Rodri and Bernardo ahead easily. This City side is the best team in prem history. The disrespect that this team gets from opposition fan is unreal. Treble, 100 points, domestic quad, broke so many team based PL records. Might do the 4 peat. If they get the 4 peat this city side should be the best ever no debate.
Chosing Kompany over Carvalho is the definition of insanity. Kompany is nowhere near the level of Carvalho. And to be fair, as a footballer Carvalho is the best center back of all time in the Premier League. Terry is just iconic because of his leadership. To me, it is abstolutely disgusting the way Carvalho is so underrated in England.
Drogba 254 pl appearances 104 goals Aguero 271 pl 181 goals Not even close. And Drogba scoring a header from a corner (and a penalty in a shootout) is the most overrated performance in football history. If Montiel played for Chelsea they'd be calling him the greatest right back in world cup history
Drogba was in the most defensive team of the prem and did not take the penalties for Chelsea (5 in total). Aguero was in the most attacking team of the prem and took 33 penalties in prem alone. And Drogba scoring a header from a corner (and a penalty in a shootout) is the most underrated performance in football history. Edit: I can understand if you can only look at g/g stats because it's the first year you are watching football that you would think Aguero was better, but look a bit further (afterward you can edit your answer)
@kenlauwaet5193 Chelsea used to get loads of decisions and also got easy cup draws and suspicious refereeing appointments all the time for their must win games. They also spend loads every year with money they never earned so he had good service and his cup games are overrated because they wouldn't beat mediocre teams convincingly with rich teams. Given all that, Drogba's numbers are poor.
Because when they think of Chelsea in PL era all they remember is Abramovich takeover. Most Chelsea fans especially internationally became fans in early 2005.
As a man city fan I apologise for his actions.Firstly Rodri has not eclipsed lampard yet.Then a possible arguement for the lw would have probably been sterling or even david silva as a false winger.Sterling does have more ga then hazard.But I would just edge it to hazard.But grealish in his 2 years is an absolute joke.
cech walker , terry & carvalho(kompany might have been the better player but as duo no) , cole KDB, rodri , lampard bernardo silva , haaland(i believe he's gonna surpass augero and drogba),hazard
Tbf if you say Carvalho over Kompany because of the duo with Terry, shouldn’t you put Gundogan or Bernardo over Lampard? Because that treble winning midfield trio is one of the best midfields in the history of football
Sterling over Zola is insane. David Silva was brilliant but there were a few midfielders I'd take over him. Makelele, Kante, Toure all for me. By the time he retires Rodri too but obviously people won't like it because of Silva's legacy. If you ask me who I'd rather take in my team I'd honestly take Rodri. And he's still got years left. Silva was a beautiful footballer but he gets overrated because he was one of City's first World class players. There's really not a huge difference between him and Bernado. But Bernado gets compared to all the world class players in City's current squad. Lampard and De Bruyne are shoo ins. 3rd pick is probably Kante for me.
Accept the facts dude. As an Arsenal fan KDB is the nightmare all I experienced these all years of my life. Don't be nostalgic. He is miles ahead of Steve G and 2nd best player after Henry. @@zisolo4283
I love Jack Grealish one of my favourite players in the league but Buvey trying to get him in this is embarrassing
🤣🤣
I can't believe he was even mentioned
Extremely embarrassing 🤣🤣🤣
Sane is so clear
He definitely didn’t believe it he just did it for drama
Is buvey right in the head trying to even suggest grealish over hazard
Exactly...if you watch their podcast you would know that whenever there's a Hazard debate they will always disrespect Hazard but here there's no other choice since City don't really have that great lw
@@DS-dw3pzfunny how they put Sterling in a top 10 but leave off mane, if Sterling didn’t go Chelsea I feel like Rory would’ve allowed him to be in the list
He’s quite clearly winding Rory up
He's actually an idiot
How these ret*rds on sky
I’m more than confident Buvey has watched football after 2016
Why do you think he supports city🥲
So like every city fan then?
@@klassed234 Exactly💀
no ways, he started watching football in 2020, after Hazard left, cause no ways this man said, Grealish > Hazard.
Best comments in here
Leaving Lampard out is just 0 ball knowledge
Before clicking to watch the video, I said to myself, if they don't mention Lampard, it'd be a NONENTITY !
And Salah
@@fluff5 for Liverpool, barely played for Chelsea. Not a chance
Kdb and rodri have to be in, both best in their respective positions, it's lampard Vs yaya. Yaya had the bigger peak season in 13/14 but overall lampard better. Do think yaya gets slept on for how his career ended.
@@fluff5Salah didn't play his prime at Chelsea
No manager in history will leave out a midfielder who scores 20 goals every season, goals win games
And no manager in history would leave out a midfielder who provides 25 assists per season and scores in big games
@tuneswarriors5874ball knowledge
@tuneswarriors5874 Makelele over Rodri tbh. Rodri scores more from DM but with this combined XI you won't need those goals. In terms of the traditional responsibilities of a holding midfield player, Makelele was better for me. Those Chelsea defences in the mid 2000s were so good not just because of the backline and keeper but because of Makelele. And can you imagine if Makelele was coached by Guardiola? That would've been an unbelievable midfield.
@tuneswarriors5874 Prem legacy sure. Maklele's overall football legacy is difficult to beat when you consider his impact on all the clubs he played for.
@tuneswarriors5874He’d be going back to Spain. He’s not going to Real. So it’s either Barca (no money) or back to Athletico.
When Buvey revealed Jack Grealish as his left winger I literally gasped.
We just witnessed something incredible. Rory Jennings was actually the most sensible person in the room. Quite an achievement
How Kante didn’t even get a mention is absolutely baffling. He’d be my number 1 midfielder from the selection there after Lampard
Do you seriously put Kante over KDB and David Silva
I for one am shocked you have a chelsea profile picture.
Lol kante over david silva any day
@@thomastuchel1726 absolute delusion that
would you take kante over rodri?
Buvey had a mare here. A joy to be on. Thanks for having me.
There's bias, and then there's just BS! Grealish over Hazard? He's having a laugh
I have to say Rory your obsession with Bernardo Silva is becoming a bit boring now.
@@AdrianaGrande It's a bit of a laugh, mate. Chill out.
He's spot on
Buvey please stop lampard is better than rodri and de bruyne combined
People will disagree with rory but hes right. Carvalho was a way better player than kompany. The most disrespected and underpreciated player in premier league history. I never see him even in conversations when discussing the greats.
Yeah, that's actually true coming from an Arsenal fan
Tbf I think stones or dais or even both could easily eclipse both of them by the end of their Man City careers if they continue at this level. Even right now it’s a debate between the 4 in terms of their PL careers
I’d argue that Carvalho was better than Terry.
this city lose title when kompany left not silva not aguero that show u how important kompany is
@@kingkwakster501Man City Clean sheets is not the defense but possession football. Chelsea it was more down to their tough defense. Look at the two at International Level then realize how at times they concede cheap goals
Drogba was a big part of the reason why Chelsea conceded so few goals when Mourinho came. In an era where everyone was playing with strike partnerships up front, Drogba had the presence, power, and pace to lead that Chelsea line alone, which gave them an extra body in midfield and made the 1-0's and 2-0's possible. Plus can you imagine Drogba on the end of those KDB crosses 🥶
Honestly drogba is a beast but there are few season where he’s wasn’t up there. Aguero was more consistent
@@Iam_andredanwhat Colour was agueros champion league cup
@@MohammedArif-rn5cu Umtiti>Vidic… World Cup?
@@MohammedArif-rn5cu and how many prem Drogba won 🤔 , jokes aside Drogba was nightmare in corners tbf , Chelsea and Liverpool were the teams I used watch during our rough City times in 2000 & 2007 .
@@MohammedArif-rn5cu Stevie G has no epl. So drink water is better??? Trophies are won collectively
Grealish over hazard? 😂
Injured Hazard over Grealish.
@@kuhen25 real madrid hazard over grealish
@@kuhen25retired hazard over prime grealish
@@kuhen25dead harzard over grealish
A-yoooo, this comment thread is craaazy
Drogba could score all sorts of goals, bully the defenders etc. Goals to game ratio is meh, since Aguero played in a way more attacking team, whereas Drogba played under some mega defensive managers.
Drogba prem record wasn’t that great he was just lethal in finals and big games
sergio had to adapt himself in order to play for pep he scored tons of goals playing in counterattacking style and adapted possession and still was a beast
@coreyblakee332 The big game thing was a bit of a myth, Chelsea's biggest games in the league every season were against United, and his record against them was awful
I could argue Aguero could score a greater variety of goals than Drogba. Aguero was a very physical striker and was very good in the air and could also bully defenders. One thing Drogba couldn't do is dribble past a defence, which is what Aguero could do and did so on multiple occasions.
taking anybody over hazard is WIILLLD. that man was a Ballon Dor contender at Chelsea. one of the last Top 3 Contenders out of PL
highest he ever finished was 13th 💀💀 neymar finished 10th at santos
@@raymondflores15838th actually.
@@raymondflores1583 Highest hazard finished was 8th twice actually not 13th
@@rohithraman6488 regardless hazard was never even close to balon dor contention like the OP mentioned, carrying a mid chelsea dosent make you better than neymar, bale. hazard gets to get compared to salah for the rest of his life that’s his level.
@@raymondflores1583 hazard was one of the best talents of his generation and that won't change. Many people have said that he was a top 5 player in the 18/19 season considering how good he was whilst carrying a mid chelsea team. That season he got 2nd highest motms behind Messi and highest assists in Europe's top 5 leagues. He has 3rd highest motm awards from 2009 to 2019 behind messi and ronaldo. This revisionism on hazard is a joke just cause of his struggles at Real madrid. People appreciate Neymar's time at Santos but very few people talk about hazard at lille when he carried them to a double aged 20. He helped them win their first title since 1954, carried chelsea for years, and for Belgium he put in top class performances at the 2018 world cup and was voted 2nd best player behind modric. Longevity isn't just about what you do in your 30's, players who peaked early can also count towards longevity. From 2008 to 2019 he had 10 great seasons out of 11. The amount of individual accolades he picked up in his career is crazy. Let's be real, in Hazard's prime, the top 2 were definitely Messi and CR7. But on the tier of players below, Hazard was most certainly there when at his best. Lots of pundits and football experts and rival fans believe that. He finished 6th in UEFA player of the year in 2015, and 7th in FIFA best player in 2018. In the UEFA award only 5 players were voted best player in europe ahead of hazard in 2015 (Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Ronaldo, Buffon). That speaks volumes as to how good he was
how Kante or makelele isn't in there baffles me
Ye kante is the best CDM in his prime
@@RyanMaparaRodri surpassed him.
Also Kante had a short prime. Where as the others had a longer prime.
@@RyanMaparaRodri 22/23 might be the greatest ever for a Dm
@@BigSmoke2.20busquete plays golf
I’m the biggest city fan but how dare he mention grealish before hazard wow
Ricardo is definitely one of the best defenders to ever grace the pitch... He was the genius in that Mourinho's side alongside Terry
The disrespect on d.silva😢
kante is probably the best DM to grace the premier league. There shud not even be a discussion. He goes into the team straight away.
not no more
i used to think the same but if you put rodris position as holding mid no way. idk if rodri is holding, box to box or attacking mid but he is amazing.
Kante plays better in a 2 man pivot, Rodri can sit as a lone 6 and has better distribution than Kante.
@@Cdlee-oo9hn Rodri has to do less. He's won more because he plays for City under Pep. And he's very very good at what he's asked to do. But Pep's one of the greatest managers ever and he's created a system in which Rodri has a very specific role. Kante was someone who didn't benefit from being in a perfect system and having a specific role. He just had crazy individual ability and raised the level of every team/midfield imhe played in. Ranieri's Leicester, Dechamp's France, Conte's Chelsea, Tuchel's Chelsea etc. Different managers, different teams, different systems. Doesn't matter who he played for or with the guy just mopped everything up in midfield and made the jobs of his teammates so much easier. That's why Pogba looked like a completely different player for France and United. It's all about Kante's individual ability. With Rodri at City you just have to remember he's playing for one of the greatest managers ever, in the perfect conditions in a safe 433 alongside other players that know their roles inside out too. Still a world class player but Kante was another level.
@@Cdlee-oo9hn tbh i think rodri isnt better than rice f.e. but kante at his prime was by far the best dm in the world and also overall i would say he is a better technical player or dribbler.
@@dasurmel1424Kante a better technical player than Rodri 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣not a chance. Rodri technically is clearrrr
Buvey tried to put Jack grealish over the player with the most motm awards in pl history 😂😂😂
4th highest motm awards behind Messi, ronaldo and Zlatan since 2009
@@rohithraman6488 only Messi and Ronaldo are the real ones...Ibra was playing since my grandpa was still alive
Cmon Buvey man! We have Sterling and David Silva who can play on the Left but you are putting Grealish?????????? 🤦♂️
rory has aged abt 5 years
I had no idea he was 40!
The state of Chelsea atm I can see why
Beard and leaving your hair longer can do that
He's 40
His hair is shorter, just a different style@@MateChocolate94
The midfield for this is insanely difficult in fairness. Rodri, Kante, Yaya, Lampard, KDB, David Silva, Bernardo would all be completely reasonable shouts. You could probably even make a case for Essien and Ballack as well.
Wouldn't say there's a case for Ballack purely because he doesn't even get in a Chelsea all time midfield. I'd have Lampard, Makelele, Kante, Essien and even Fabregas over him. Ballack was unreal but he was only with us for 4 seasons and I'd say his peak was at Leverkusen and Munich. He's a victim of not playing for 1 club for most of his career. So he may not get in many combined 11s.
Missing out makelele is crazy too
@@natsemor4256 proves my point I even forgot Fabregas and Makekele 😂😂
Rodri/KDB/Lampard for me. I hate it when people do these and don't pick a team that makes some level of tactical sense. If it's a 3 man midfield you need a holding midfielder not 3 number 10s.
KDB, Yaya, Lampard, Rodri, Kanté, Fabregas, David Silva - what a debate…
No DM when we have seen Kante, Makelele and Rodri is a bit mad. And Kompany is not better than Carvalho I promise
for me rodri and kante better than makelele, but either kante or rodri should be in the midfield.
@@darcy5754Kante is definitely better than rodri
@@darcy5754that’s recency bias. Rodri has been good for less than 2 years. He was not that good in 2021 season. Kante and makelele were fantastic for few seasons.
@rockymaniaster last season rodri is arguably the greatest season for a dm ever, only busquets comes close and is probably the only one ahead of him. Kante was good but he doesn't come close to rodri
@@Deathmare235 not even close
Why does Kompany having more iconic moments i.e. goals make him a better centre back???
Moments are what define a player, doesn't make them a better footballer technically but it does change peoples perception. I doubt you can remember Kompany's tackle success rate or pass complete percentage, do you do remember his goal against Leicester
because they dont watch the games, they watch highlights on youtube
@@QuinasGaming yep not wrong or go off fifa ratings
i remember that Ricardo Carvalho is one of the best defenders i ever watched. @@EthanG298
people forget how injury prone he was
Buvey literally said in terms of goal scoring trying to convince toure is better than lampard when lampard has scored the most goals for a midfielder in the entire prem
I don't support Chelsea but thought the drogba arguement was better
Not really, Rory was just saying one moment with great detail while buvey was saying stats
yeah I watched Drogba lift Chelsea out the dirt in Munich
@@Deathmare235 i would’ve argued better than him. Drogba was not only big game player, he used to lead the line alone most of the times. He used to hold up alone against 2-3 defenders, even the best ones. Piques literally said that drogba was the most difficult one to deal with.
@@rockymaniaster same goal to game ratio as Yakubu. Stop Drogba is not better than Aguero
Oh ya, arguing stuff not related to the premier league should get him in a premier league XI. Anyways you shouldnt need an argument to know Aguero was better
I loved how there wasn't an argument over Hazard's position. An absolute legend of the game🔵💙
Buvey doesn't know his own manager. "Would guardiola take anyone over yaya toure" 😂
At 18:20 Rory screaming that the Saturday Social is corrupt, followed by silence, is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen 😂😂
Picking Grealish over Hazard is one of the most insane football takes I have ever seen
Rory made a much better argument for Drogba. I feel like he's been done dirty. Drogba and Agueto is close to be fair
Stupidest thing ever said, Agro is probably top 5 pl strikers ever
Aguero**
@@ajinkyakelkar9983yeah but who would you rather have at a cup final? Because it wouldn't be Aguero. It's a tough one tbf Aguero the better striker vs Drogba the bigger player
It's not really, more goals, more assist, more goals per game, more titles, and one of the most iconic moments of premier league history; Drogba is top class but it's not close
@@jackbunn7249That isn't a thing. There's no such thing as a big game player
14:33 im a city fan but buvey that was not at all needed 😂😂 hazard all the wayyy
Picking Grealish over Hazard is an insult to football. Almost like comparing Vazquez and Neymar.
hazard with no legs > that pass back merchant
Azpilicueta not being mentioned is mental.
Arguably the best right back in Premier League history, let alone combined City/Chelsea XI
Cap😂😂maybe top 5....trent walker n phil are ahead of him
@@kwameg23 don't think you even watched him play...Azpi was one of the most underrated defenders ever... defending wise at his peak no one could get past him
If Drogba took penalties, Haaland would have the second best goal scoring season in the Premier League btw.
I love Buvey a lot, but today i think he was very biased. A unusual off day. Rory was very rational today, cant believe im saying it.
He was being a bit bias too with the way he climbed on carvalho
@@Deathmare235because carvalho is miles clear of kompany 🤣
@@jamaalbof8875bro what did I just hear 😂😂
@@jamaalbof8875rubbish opinion u man hate man city so much what is this nonsense
Thr grealish was a bit trolling . He usually does it to bait reaction 😂
Cech, Cole, Terry, Kompany, Walker , KDB, Kante, lampard, hazard, drogba, Robben only right answers
Kante barely getting a mention but trying to put in Rodri is madness to me.
Never let this man on the show ever again for trying to suggest Grealish over Hazard
Kante had 2-3 good seasons at Chelsea, Rodri has had 5….
@@jackninetynine5036 Kante was class ever since Leicester lol...and if your definition of having good seasons is having more league titles means even I could have won the league with City so means I had more good seasons than Kante? Lmao
@@DS-dw3pz he was class for about 2 years after Leicester. Was in the French 2nd division before & injured/ Saudi after those few good seasons. Rodri’s been at a world class level for 5 years & is only 27
@@jackninetynine5036 so you are gonna just forget that UCL run where without Kante there's no way Chelsea would have won it lol...he even pocketed KDB lol...I'll give it to you that Rodri has more clutch moments that's it but other than that no way
@@DS-dw3pz i said he had a few world class years (like that year) Rodri was just as, if not more integral last year for city but also in the league year after year, their peaks are comparable but longevity Rodri is gonna be miles clear
Cech
Walker-Terry-Kompany-Cole
Essien
KDB-Lampard
Silva-Aguero-Hazard
Sub: Ederson, Carvalho, Ivanovic, Rodri, Ilkay Gundogan, Kante, Drogba, Mahrez
I've seen players like Matic dominate Yaya Toure in a midfield battle over multiple games. I've never seen a player dominate a fit Ngolo Kante. Kante replaces Toure in that midfield for me.
Lampard, De Bruyne and Kante would never pass to each other but would get 150G/A assists a season lol
Having Aguero over Drogba and Bernardo over Robben is actually INSANE
Rodri has ONE great season:
Best CDM of this generation
How’s David silva not been mentioned
Overrated Santi carzola was better
@@markhadden1397 Nice joke 😂😂
@@markhadden1397😂😂😂
He was mentioned briefly when they asked who’s the best Silva
He was
Trying to debate Grealish with Hazard with a straight face is just pure delusion.
Carvalho won back to back league titles with Porto. Culminating in a famous CL victory against all odds. He then goes on to dominate the PL for a few years as part of an elite defensive unit, but we're going with Kompany. That adds up.
Yeah and he also did well at Real Madrid….He is truly underrated
@@multikaspergaming2348 Exactly. He was an elite defender who did it in multiple leagues.
Oh wow he won the Portuguese league with Porto.
Oh wow he was given a CL medal for winning a EuropaLeague pathway after cheating ManUtd in R16 with the Scholes offside yer played ONside by 4 Porto players. Oh wow he won PL's with Chelsea who bought the league yet still lost it 3 should've been 4 years in a row and he never won CL with Chelski or RealMadrid etc...
@FootkerSnookball And yet, despite all that, he achieved more than Kompany. If you're gonna say that Chelsea bought the league, then you have to say the same for City and by extension, Kompany, so my point still stands. The numbers and the trophies still put Carvalho ahead of Kompany. Your observations don't negate my point, but you'd have to be smart to notice that. Lastly, how many CL titles did Kompany win again?
@multikaspergaming2348 Did he do well at RealMadrid?? 1 LaLiga in 3 seasons especially with Cristiano in the team is the bare minimum RealMadrid expect. As a defender you only have to concentrate on that when you've got the attacking players they had so he obviously didn't do his job that well plus he lost 5-0 to Barca and like with his time at Chelsea he didn't win the CL there either.
Drogba vs Aguero isn't a debate for me. Drogba all day every day. More trophies for his club. That simple.
Enjoyed this show. GREALISH GETS IN 😂
disagree on the grealish part but glad u held it down because rory's delusion might've gotten worse ever since the haaland take.
Man City Real Madrid all time combined XI
Buvey: I'll take Grealish on the LW over Cristiano for sure, no debate, Jack is magic!!
You need to step it up, your gas is getting lazy.
Before watching I’d go (cheating a bit but I’m gonna play a 3-5-2 to get my favorites in)
Cech
Carvalho
Terry
Kompany
Kante
Lampard
KDB
Hazard
David Silva
Drogba
Aguero
Special shout to Yaya but have to have Kante and Lamps in
Edit after watching: I cannot believe they rate Bernardo Silva over David Silva. I think Bernardo is class, but that’s just so recency driven. David Silva was one of the top 5-10 players in the world for a time when city were far less dominant
I know Aguero has more goals but Didier Drogba was just a majestic finisher
yeah but that is as irrelevant as titles to that debate. aguero is just the better player and it isnt really close.
@@dasurmel1424no way. Aguero has a way better team around him. Ofc he's going to score more goals. Imagine drogba in cities xi, would smoke him
@MCFCReacts so just like haaland yesterday
@@rebelspoonyes. Not a lot of city fans would pick Haaland over Aguero. Nevermind city fans, not a lot of football lovers would do so either. Aguero was one of the best strikers of this generation. Haaland lacks a lot of qualities, still. Aguero was way more complete. And he has the best EVER record against the PL big 6.
No, he bloody wasn't. He was an average finisher, and not consistent.
You can’t say Benardo Silva is better than David Silva
‘Iconic moments’ is an absolutely horrendous metric
Yeah you could argue Origi over most strikers on that basis
Aguero was a much better goal scorer than Drogba and fair enough he had the big moment scoring that goal in the 90 plus minute to win the prem but Drogba could play against a back four on his own. Took his opportunity to score in clutch moments every time he could. Was a leader who stepped up at every opportunity. Still got 2 golden boots in the prem, agueros only got 1 and I don’t care what anybody says Drogba played in an era with some of the best defenders we’ve ever seen and bullied everyone. Other fans could only dream of what Chelsea fans got with Drogba, he scored 10 goals in 10 finals. Always turned up in big games in the champions league, aguero never done it in Europe. Football now days is all about stats but you had to be there to witness it. The guy was a beast
Truer words have never been spoken, unfathomably BASED take
The fact this man tried to get Grealish in over Hazard and not have Lampard in his team is absolutely shocking. What is he playing at?
Eden hazard and Jack grealish should not be mentioned in the same sentence.😂😂
Maybe Drogba once rescued Rory's family from a burning building or something; Or maybe Aguero was the one that lit that building on fire. That's the only rationale I can come up with for the last 2 striker debates I have seen from him. His 10 other shouts were pretty good. Rodri close to eclipsing Yaya potentially, but Lamps is nailed on. Final combined team was probably as close to "correct" as they could have gotten.
“There’s something about jack grealish” incredible ball knowledge
Im a city fan and I would have lampard and hazard in this team over rodri and grealish any day of the week
I agree with the hazard point but Rodri nope, I'd actually drop Yaya for Rodri & let Lampard & KDB be the number 8s /10s
Aguero over drogba is -0 ball knowledge
Essien, Makelele, Kante all deserve mentions and the shouts in this video are ridiculous
They literally all got mentions. How are you putting them in over KDB, lamp and yaya?
In homage, the defensive midfield position is sometimes colloquially known as the "Makélélé Role"
Eden Hazard with one leg is better than Jack Grealish.
David Silva on the left side would be a much better shout than Grealish
@@Mcbikey24 Even Sterling is a better shout than Grealish
@@Mcbikey24 Silva over Hazard is only a slightly less ridiculous shout.
Buvey just said Rodri is the best DM of our generation. How can anyone take this man seriously
To not have kante in this team is absolutely mad
Carvalho was the best CB out of them all.
Cech
Walker Terry Kompany Cole
Yaya Kante
Lampard DeBruyne Hazard
Drogba
Thats complete now.
Shite team
The fact the holding mid position is called the makelele position speaks volumes
As much as I detest Rory, he did actually make the better argument on Drogba Vs Aguero 😂
I'm telling you 😂😂😂
But Aguero is simply better
not really, Aguero get many hattrick and is main penalt taker in City. whereas Drogba scores when it matters and Lampard takes all Chelsea penalties, and he scored when it matters in finals, Aguero was invisible in UCL final vs Chelsea to prove he useless when it matters
Lmao one off game is what you see and not the 10 years of consistency? I'd rather have a striker that scores 20+ goals consistently than have one that touches 13 goals twice lmao Drogba was mad average smh Aguero was way more complete and twice the player Drogba was. Best EVER record against the BIG 6 PL teams also shows that he was a big game player. Hat-trick against Neuer in CL too. The QPR goal? He has way more iconic moments than Drogba, and you're stuck on the CL final lmao just shush.
GK. Cech
Rb. Zabaleta
Cb. Terry
Cb. Kompany
Lb. A.Cole
Dm. Rodri
Rcm. De Bruyne
Lcm. Lampard
Rw. Bernardo Silva
St. Agüero (Slightly edging Drogba)
Lw. Hazard
Manager: Pep
GK: Petr Cech
LB: Ashley Cole
CB: Vincent Kompany
CB: John Terry
RB: Pablo Zabaleta
CM: Frank Lampard
CDM: Yaya Toure
CM: Kevin De Bruyne
LW: Eden Hazard
ST: Sergio Aguero
RW: David Silva
Manager- Pep Guardiola
bro said zabeleta 💀💀💀💀
@@ddddd8503 I prefer him over Walker for now, don't see how that's controversial in any way 🤔
Drogba in and we good. Drogba would score more goals in a better attack.@@HaydenTaylor-qs1si
I'm surprised nobody mentioned how bad the Bernardo Silva take is. A very good player, but honestly a little overrated- especially when you see him play for Portugal. David Silva was a much better player for club and country.
Kante should be one of the first names on the sheet. People forget he was integral to Leicester winning the league. Put David Silva or Rodri in that Leicester team & they don’t have the impact kante did. Sure he won the league the next season with Chelsea
Different playing styles, different needs. Regardless let's just appreciate what all of these players are offering & offered to the football game
I would put kdb - kante - lampard even though I know kante wasn't a CDM and kdb/lampard have similar roles..they are just the best players. Rodri comes close but kante's workrate puts him a level above
These two together are pure class, great work guys
Grealish over hazard is just embarrassing to say that and Drogba >aguero
Yaya and Rodri doesn’t get in over kante or makelele and Zola over Bernardo
Rodri is the best central midfielder the prem has ever seen
@@plm6523 nice joke
@chaps2253 its true, 3/3 premier leagues and a treble and possibly 4/4.
Yaya and Rodri seems to have more natural talent than Makelele and Kante. When they mention Chelsea in PL era it really means after Abramovich takeover.
Rodri and Bernardo ahead easily. This City side is the best team in prem history. The disrespect that this team gets from opposition fan is unreal.
Treble, 100 points, domestic quad, broke so many team based PL records. Might do the 4 peat. If they get the 4 peat this city side should be the best ever no debate.
Chosing Kompany over Carvalho is the definition of insanity. Kompany is nowhere near the level of Carvalho. And to be fair, as a footballer Carvalho is the best center back of all time in the Premier League. Terry is just iconic because of his leadership.
To me, it is abstolutely disgusting the way Carvalho is so underrated in England.
Stop watching when Ricardo Carvalho was left out....
How does David Silva doesn’t get into this team and to then Say that Bernardo is better than him without even a second thought is insane😅
Genuinely the first video I've seen where Rory didn't come out with a bad take
thiagho silva for chelsea over kompany for city was pretty shocking
Saying Bernardo was comfortably clear of David? Saying Carvalho > Kompany
Goalkeeper: Cech
Defence: Walker, Terry, Kompany, Cole
Midfield: KDB, Rodri, David Silva
Forwards: Bernardo, Aguero, Hazard
Drogba 254 pl appearances 104 goals
Aguero 271 pl 181 goals
Not even close. And Drogba scoring a header from a corner (and a penalty in a shootout) is the most overrated performance in football history. If Montiel played for Chelsea they'd be calling him the greatest right back in world cup history
Very dumb statement you making
no knowledge stat merchant
Drogba was in the most defensive team of the prem and did not take the penalties for Chelsea (5 in total). Aguero was in the most attacking team of the prem and took 33 penalties in prem alone. And Drogba scoring a header from a corner (and a penalty in a shootout) is the most underrated performance in football history.
Edit: I can understand if you can only look at g/g stats because it's the first year you are watching football that you would think Aguero was better, but look a bit further (afterward you can edit your answer)
@kenlauwaet5193 Chelsea used to get loads of decisions and also got easy cup draws and suspicious refereeing appointments all the time for their must win games. They also spend loads every year with money they never earned so he had good service and his cup games are overrated because they wouldn't beat mediocre teams convincingly with rich teams. Given all that, Drogba's numbers are poor.
Put assists now
Cech
Walker, Kompany, Terry, Cole
Kante, KDB, Lampard, Hazard
Drogba, Aguero
How on earth is zola not in the convo ?
Why would he be??? 😂
Because when they think of Chelsea in PL era all they remember is Abramovich takeover. Most Chelsea fans especially internationally became fans in early 2005.
@@jacob4690 zola gets ahead of any player on that sheet, and he played with this geezer called Diego in Napoli.
@@sandrofarrugia9214 how does he? Those players are all league winners
Cause he’s not good enough, he’s Rory’s favourite player and when he’s up against buvey he knows he can’t bs zola in it
As a man city fan I apologise for his actions.Firstly Rodri has not eclipsed lampard yet.Then a possible arguement for the lw would have probably been sterling or even david silva as a false winger.Sterling does have more ga then hazard.But I would just edge it to hazard.But grealish in his 2 years is an absolute joke.
Prem watchers forgetting Marcelo exists lmao
How many goals has aguero have? Okay drogba got a league, well aguero won a league with his goal. Drogba will never on aguero's level.
cech
walker , terry & carvalho(kompany might have been the better player but as duo no) , cole
KDB, rodri , lampard
bernardo silva , haaland(i believe he's gonna surpass augero and drogba),hazard
haaland 😂
@@echoes1250Haaland broke the prem record, he's valid.
Tbf if you say Carvalho over Kompany because of the duo with Terry, shouldn’t you put Gundogan or Bernardo over Lampard? Because that treble winning midfield trio is one of the best midfields in the history of football
That’s my team too.
People give Rory stick but Buvey has just god awful takes 😂
Rory is box-office material!
Cech
Walker
Kompany
Terry
Cole
Rodri
KDB
Lampard
Bernardo
Kun
Hazard
there u have it
If u talking bout Premier League era:
Cech.
Walker, Terry, Kompany, Cole.
Lampard, KDB, David.
Hazard, Aguero, Sterling.
Cech, Cole, Terry, Carvallho, Walker. Midfield Makelele, Lampard and KDB. Attack Hazard, Drogba and Aguero.
Sterling 😂😂😂😂
Sterling over Zola is insane. David Silva was brilliant but there were a few midfielders I'd take over him. Makelele, Kante, Toure all for me. By the time he retires Rodri too but obviously people won't like it because of Silva's legacy. If you ask me who I'd rather take in my team I'd honestly take Rodri. And he's still got years left. Silva was a beautiful footballer but he gets overrated because he was one of City's first World class players. There's really not a huge difference between him and Bernado. But Bernado gets compared to all the world class players in City's current squad.
Lampard and De Bruyne are shoo ins. 3rd pick is probably Kante for me.
@MCFCReacts why have Yaya when there is Essien
leaving kante out is a disgrace
That dude saying KDB is head and shoulders above Lamps, Gerrard and Scholes probably started watching football since 2016 or smtg
KDB is miles clear….People tend to hype up players that played back in the days…
@@multikaspergaming2348 miles better? Bro u tripping
Accept the facts dude. As an Arsenal fan KDB is the nightmare all I experienced these all years of my life. Don't be nostalgic. He is miles ahead of Steve G and 2nd best player after Henry. @@zisolo4283
IMO - Cech, Walker, Terry, Carvalho, Cole, Kante, Lampard, KDB, D Silva, Hazard, Argero/Drogba coin toss.
Front 3 should be Mahrez, Hazard and Aguero no debate
proof city fans started watching the prem in 2017
Joe and Rory’s trims are shocking
Cech
Walker-Terry-kompany-cole
Lampard-Toure(or kante)-KDB
Hazard-Drogba(or aguero)-David Silva