A Forgotten Marvel Fighting Game | Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects | Retrospective Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- In 2005, Marvel and EA signed a multi game deal with EA to produce a series of Marvel fighting games. The result was Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects. Marvel Nemesis included characters such as Daredevil, Iron Man, Spider-Man, Venom, and Human Torch against original EA characters named, "The Imperfects." Marvel Nemesis received both poor critical and financial success, causing it to be the only game to release within the Marvel/EA contract. But was it really that bad though? In this video, we'll go through every detail of Marvel Nemesis and discuss where it went wrong, as well as what it did right.
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This is one of those games that makes you feel like you’re from a different timeline because nobody I ever speak to remembers this game
my fav game
I remember I got this game for my birthday and I remember I first played it and really loved it
Big facts...but me and my friends would...we used have 1 to 5 dollar matches so pretty much a weekend fight club...shit would go down on Friday nights into Saturday..I remember when I realized they added continuity to the game mid fight when I web yanked a car and tossed it quick as hell at Venom...like that stopped the whole fight for about 5 secs..like everyone was like ooOoooooo yoo...hold tf up... me: ohhh yeahhhh! it's spider man!! I started throwing everything at my friend..cars, light poles, cans, mailboxes, a stray dog. Then madd fists. I didn't give af and ended it with a web swing kick to a rage finish for a legendary spiderman comeback.. im talking damn near no health! Added with the flute sounding theme song when the battle picked up...and it was just so epic!! Felt like a comic book Hahaha I believe it was over 65 dollars on the line..so this was a big fight haha and with spidermans quote you know what we call that? we call that a web slinging ass kickin'..... everyone just lost it hahaha super hot fire crew style lmao..So yeah only that crew remembers...anyone else nah...😆 🤣 but damn...man good times...😔
I second that. Pretty weird how unique of a Marvel game it was and yet it didn't have much time in the sun. Fucking awesome game.
I played this game at McDonald’s back when they had it. Bought it as a kid, but felt kind of uncomfortable by the language so I had it returned for something else.
Nothing screams more 2000’s marvel than this game. The Ultimate/2000’s film inspired look, the edgy aesthetic, and the all around feeling that they kinda just didn’t really know fully how this project was gonna go or really what to do with it.
Pretty much.
Marvel was pretty awesome 2000 to 2010 though. A lot of classic looking hero designs.
This game seems like the last gasp of the 90’s.
perfectly sums up licensed ea games from that era
Storm's costume just really made me double take 😂😂 trying to imagine them making a game today with a belly top, thong, thigh-high six-inch heel boot wearing storm just made me laugh
@@Doddser I actually cringed at Elektra’s costume
I remember a match where you had to beat Elektra as Daredevil while you're 'bleeding out from a knife wound' so you lose health constantly and quickly. It was hard af.
There was also a level with Paragon where you had to go through the level without taking a single hit, that shit used to make me rage as a kid lmfaoo
@@literallyonlyfanz2308 same.
@Hitchcock Mason the ability to brag about it on TH-cam several years later 🤣
It was poison
That's the level that made me rage quit the game lol
I remember playing this all the time on GameCube and trying to beat the game for hours and hours in one sitting because I didn’t have a memory card
Hands down, this was my one of my favorite marvel games to ever exist 🙌. I just never knew how to do the "fatalities". I'd just button mash and sometimes it'd work lol
You use enhanced throw while their heath bar blinks and says and the animation begins
Same here, at first I used to press everything but then figured out how it was done. That was at least 15-14 years ago though.
I had a lot of fun playing with my brother but the game was not balanced 😂
Spider-man's and venom's corrupted skins imo were some of their coolest designs ever
I agree. There is just something about that black and green aesthetic on Spider powered characters that is so unnerving. I often use to play as normal Spider-Man and mirror matched just so I could see both Spider-Man and his corrupted self in the same room. Not to mention the fact that Spider-Man sounds evil as hell with the creepy voice overlay corrupted characters got.
You can't call it an opinion when you're speaking straight facts!
I think that was probably my favorite part about unlocking new characters in the game, seeing their corrupted skins
Fucking yes! So fun to play as venom
I just realized, venom got into a fight with someone who uses fire as hot as the sun.
I would absolutely LOVE a revamped or a remastered version of this game. I remember playing this everyday I got home from school with my brothers.
Definitely agree! I wouldn’t mind if another developer took a crack at this style of fighting game either. A 3D map with a larger roster of marvel characters would be a lot of fun
@@alwaysnerdyretros If you've never played Spider-Man: Friend or Foe, you might be happy to learn that there's an optional versus mode in that game that's a 3D arena fighter like you see here in Marvel Nemesis.
@@alwaysnerdyretros I would like how those developers update the look of the Imperfects as they are very early 00s looking
@@alwaysnerdyretros Marvel Arena fighter a-la Jump Force would be so cool
@@alwaysnerdyretros so do you have this gsme on ps2 or xbox
The game where I first heard Spidey curse. "You know what we call that, we call that a web-slingin ass kickin!"
“time to open a can of whoop ass”- the thing XD
I remember being like maaaaa Spider-Man cursed and she’s like bih u lying
Spidey was hilarious in the dark mode or whatever tf that was.
"What a great day, for kicking ass" - Ironman
🤣🤣🤣 yess
If I recall, Marvel ACTUALLY does own the rights to the Imperfects.
It was discovered when an Artist for "Marvel Universe vs Avengers" accidently put the Imperfect Hazmat in a groupshot instead of Hazmat from Avengers Academy.
I think that since the game was contract work with a copyright, any new characters automatically went to the copyright holder and not the game publisher. If EA wanted to own the characters, then they would've had to produce something involving them in a standalone product prior to Marvel Nemesis
U are correct I believe
I see. I was actually going to comment that if EA does own the characters, I wouldn't mind seeing a new game starring them. I heard that they actually wanted to a story driven single player game but were contractually required to make a fighting game. They could make a more story driven game with the Imperfects, flesh them out more. I actually did really like their designs and backstories. If Marvel owns the copyright though, then that's too bad. We'll probably never see them again.
"If I recall" even though there's never any reports on what you so called "recall"
"EA-created "Imperfect" comic book characters, oddities as The Wink, Niles Van Roekel and Brigade -- gamers hated the game's unbalanced fighting system, as it was clear that some characters had a far bigger advantage than others. On top of that, bad graphics and poor AI bugs plagued the release.
Shortly thereafter, EA and Marvel's partnership fizzled, coming to an official close in 2008 without seeing the release of any further games. This wasn't for a lack of trying it would appear, as earlier this week, Siliconera ran across newly released concept art and a short video for a follow-up that was never released, with only the occasional glimpse of it surfacing in various gaming media outlets over the years. By looking at the concept screens and video clip released by one of the EA Chicago artists involved with the Marvel project, we can glean a few details details about the potential sequel to "Nemesis."
Judging from one concept screen, it appears that the game featured a Campaign mode, similar to the one featured in "Nemesis." Even more intriguing is the mode sitting next to it, titled "What If?" which may have mixed things up significantly between the Marvel characters and the batch of Nemesis freaks, or even possibly presenting alternate realities based on the classic Marvel series of the same name.
In addition, a My Collection option appears on the main menu, presenting the possibility that characters and maybe even virtual comic books could be unlocked over the course of the campaign, for the player to root through in their own free time.
Two more screens illustrate the likelihood that the game would have stuck with the 3D combat of the original "Nemesis," including the ability to run around freely on a stage while holding down a trigger to keep "locked on" to an enemy, so all attacks could be focused on him or her. Other offensive controls included the ability to mix up weak and strong strikes, as well as item interaction (possibly with items to pick up within the stage, such as crates or lamp posts to be used as projectiles) and running tackles.
One other notable feature in the gameplay is the addition of a Super Power Modifier, which would have probably taken advantage of each character's ability. For instance, Spider-Man would have been able to use his webbing to some capacity, while Captain America could easily throw his shield to some degree, or maybe even use it in a super-charging attack. And who knows what kind of damage Hulk or Wolverine could have wreaked.
In addition to Captain America, Hulk and Spider-Man appearing in the screenshots and video, the lesser known US Agent also appears as a playable option, hinting at a potentially larger pool of characters to choose from than the original "Nemesis." Indeed, the sole trailer for the game from 2007 showed Spidey facing off against Doctor Doom, while Cap went toe-to-toe with the Juggernaut.
Beyond the screens and video, a commenter on the Siliconera story claiming to have been an EA game tester who worked on this particular project bolsters our read on the screenshots. He describes the game as taking a "psuedo-sandbox" approach to the gameplay, featuring interactive, destructible environments, civilians running around as you battle other characters and and an open city to explore. This is further supported by another video from 2007 showing gameplay footage while the developers brag about "every square inch" of the environment being destructible, damage appearing on the characters and working hard to emulate look of Marvel's comic book offerings.
Again, it's all concept-stage art and footage, but you can see where EA Chicago was doing its best to improve upon "Nemesis." It's incredibly unlikely we'll ever find out, however, leaving the fate of the Imperfects -- whom Marvel owns the rights to as part of the original partnership deal -- in limbo."
this is the official report for the game so what u "recall is inaccurate" ea's created characters the imperfect is what they own just like nba street's drake, Stretch and etc just like the other ea's created characters like def jam fighting series like d-mob and more. so stop ur bullshit
so no there's never been any reports of ea losing rights to their own created characters it doesn't even make sense either with that logic
2:54 I love how they start off the game by showing off characters that we might've actually wanted to play as getting killed off right infront of us.
When I was little I was just under the impression that they were kidnapped or knocked out but realizing that Cap, Punisher and Hulk were straight up killed is fucking terrifying. Not so much Cap and Punisher but the fact that the aliens managed to kill The Hulk means they’re not to be fucked with.
All those charachters were Dumb Op tho LUL i think they were going for a story for a more balanced cast of fighters
@@freshtodef123456789 Yes because that stopped these characters from being playable in other fighting games before, right?
@@GenericProtagonist118 True lol well magento in theory should be wiping the floor with all of those characters
@@freshtodef123456789 magneto can literally metal bend the fucking core of the earth like he is fire lord montezuma or whatever the fuck his name was from avatar the airbender tv show (it might've been ozai)
I remember showing this game to my friends and none of them knew what it was but they were in love with it. They’d beg to come play after school. Still to this day they talk about that game
Bro I thought this game was perma killing the heroes when you fought them as the imperfects so I strategize which heroes I would try to keep alive. Those cards you got after battles and character infos were misleading because it seemed that the Character was killed.It turned out they weren't full on killing them as much as they imprisoned them and used them on their side.
that honestly that would be a cool mechanic for a remake
i thought this too!
Ya dude I thought that too as a kid and did the same exact thing lol
Elektra's whale tail and boot-cuts bring back a hard wave of awkward fashion nostalgia.
I always wondered exactly what that particular look for her was. But yeah it didn’t look entirely out of aesthetic or whatever concerning her. Would be lying if I said I didn’t exactly like it lol.
@@TH-camPredalien slightly based off the crappy Garner movie, which came out the same year
@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 Yeah…. That and Daredevil just wasn’t made well at all. The earlier marvel films aside from a few just didn’t get a solid grasp on their content.
@@TH-camPredalien daredevil '03 was made well it was just fox that ruined the movie but the director's cut redeem the film but the damage was already done. this was pre snyder and pre david ayer which happened the same with them with studio meddling. there's a whole horror story and a 10 year development hell multiple directors before mark steven johnson landed the job and how fox didn't want daredevil to look like daredevil trying to compete with raimi's spider-man sub plots and alternate 15 costumes cut from the film there's so much that went on behind the scenes. fox rushed out the cut that had more scenes of garner to cash in on her rising popularity at the time with alias for the theatrical cut that ruined the tune and plot by making it inconsistent. it's funny bcuz right after daredevil '03 fox forced garner to do the elektra movie, a movie that she didn't want to do and trash it before it's release. she was contractually obligated to do the elektra movie due to daredevil '03. i'm glad she's finally getting the redemption comeback with deadpool 3 that she rightfully deserves & earned bcuz fox was trying to sabotage her career.
I was an audio tester for the console versions of Nemesis at EA in Burnaby. This video brought up some bittersweet memories for me. As a huge Marvel fan back in the day I was so excited about the potential only to be disappointed with with the result. (Why create Imperfects when there are perfectly fine Marvel characters to use???). This was an end of 6th gen console lifecycle game release and I remember after the game came out loads of people from the team and company wide got laid off(including myself) in order to cut down on overhead during the console transition period. Put me off of gaming for years, until I got a Switch and have been making up for lost time! Thanks for the retrospective!
Thank you for sharing your experience! Although, it sounds like you don’t have particularly good memories associated with this game. It’s a shame things didn’t turn out better for everyone involved. It sounds like things are much better for you now though! It’s nice to hear your passion for gaming has been reignited :)
@@alwaysnerdyretros thanks it's been cool to pick it up again after a hiatus. Loving the indie scene! Also creators like you are doing a great job documenting the industry and the games. It is a bit of a golden age right now.
the amount of times ive thought about this game but not been able to remember the name of it is astronomical, thanks so much for making this video
Always Nerdy? More like “Always Delivering Quality Content”
Another great review! I remember playing this game with my dad during visitations and loving it. A recent playthrough left me feeling kind of meh, but it will always have a place in my heart.
Keep up the awesome work!
Hahaha thank you 😆Thats awesome your dad would play it with you! I imagine it’s a lot more fun co-op. I’ve only played it solo though
Your profile pic tho
@@alwaysnerdyretros can you do a retrospective on X-Men Mutant Academy 1, 2, & 3
@@Mextlatec yes definitely at some point! Idk how soon they will be, but I plan on covering more fighting games
@@Mextlatec I miss the ps2
Finally someone is talking about it. This game used to genuinely scare me. But I loved this game to death, the art direction, the UI, and Johnny ohm 😎
I really love Jae Lee's art for Iron Man something about it is so cool the red and silver looks great and seeing 2 glowing eyes on the helmet of the armor is genuinely great and kinda scary
Ikr, it's like a great combination of the Ultimate Iron Man art style and the classic one, really gives him a unique and cool look
His art with The Imperfects made me such a fan of his. I thought his work was badass.
I like how angular he is, very intimidating
I normally hate Jae Lee’s art.
This doesn’t change my opinion.
I was born in 02’ and I remember playing this game on my PS2, I was so young that I can barely remember anything about it. Honestly thought it wasn’t real, glad this came out to confirm my sanity and give me major nostalgia.
You were 3 years old when this dropped, who gives a 3 year old a PS2, stop lying.
@@theoutlawking9123 I wasn’t aware the only point in time you could play this game was 2005. This would be such a weird thing to lie about lmao.
@@Jake0205literally in the same boat lol, parents got it for my GameCube when I was like 5 or 6 and I was an 03’ baby lol
@@theoutlawking9123 I was born in 1987 and my first introduction to Spider-man was the 60's cartoon and my first video game was Super Mario Bros on the NES. Media doesn't stop exiting a year after release.
@@darrenmacqueen9884 That's crazy knowing your first introduction to Spider-Man was the 60s cartoon. You would think that you would have grown up with the 90s Spider-Man cartoon since it was right around the corner. A few years later.
I actually remember having a love-hate relationship with thus game in my childhood, the story mode could be really frustrating and repetitive to the point where it felt a lot longer to what it is, but i also remember having lots of fun in the versus mode, the character i think i used the most was venom on his transformed form, which i found badass.
I thought the soundtrack for this game was pretty cool and different from something we were used to. It reminded me of Danny Elfman’s Batman score but more fitted for edgy 2000’s Marvel.
Exactly! The music really set the tone for the story and made it to where it gave me chills everytime I played it.
This video has definitely brought a smile to my face cuz I used to be obsessed with this game when I was a kid with a childhood friend and whenever Spider-Man made his first appearance in the story mode. Beating one alien enemy after another & only making him out by his fist & leg kicks just filled me with excitement when he showed up & given the fact that his costume in game looks very inspired by the Tobey Maguire costume with the silver webs and the eyes very slightly along with Venom being included it made for great childhood conversations of what Venom could have been &/or looked like for Spider-Man 3 since the movie did not come out yet.
(Plus as another interesting tidbit from me, the game also gave me a lot of vibes for what a Killer Instinct 3 game could have been like at the time before the 2013 Xbox reboot, since the human torch and a few resemble the cast you would see in a Killer Instinct game along with the daily bugle representing the iconic 3D rooftop stages)
Gotta give props to EA for designing very unique characters. I would petition them to officially join Marvels cast tbh.
Hazmat is gross and really clever, paragon is badass, and wink would be sick to fight Nightcrawler.
That Black and Green Spiderman costume still is my favorite skin ever in a game.
Wink always struck me as being like Nightcrawler with more of a Mystique vibe about her, which I guess tracks, since the two blue mutants are mother and son.
What about my boy Johnny Ohm?
@@woopdashoop9860 That name goes so hard
These characters were generic AF
@@jediknightgeo Generic? A gigantic Frankenstein that can topple buildings with rocket arms. A slithering hazmat suit with no bones that swings with slime like Spiderman...a tribal woman with blades on her arms who teleports and causes electric surges every swipe...those are generic to you?
9:59 That wallrunning animation is too good wth
I NEVER forgot this game! 🥺😖😭😭😭 one of my all time favorites!! Wish they would remaster it already 🤧🤧
This literally was one of Marvels greatest games ever made ..from the variation of characters in story mode ! To the VS features , throwing cars and throwing dudes thru pillars !! the fact they are not smart enough to release a second is insane !
They had EA Chicago developing an indirect sequel back at the start of the PS3 era but EA Chicago got shut down after that crappy Def Jam Icon game.
Do we really want modern EA to make a sequel to this game? Hell do we really want modern EA to make anything for that matter?
@@Dreeza68955 EA can sign the rights over to someone who can really make this game better
@@BlackOmEga_2099 Yeah that'd be cool, but at the same time you're asking EA not to be the greedy, greasy, and shady.
Hulk dying like that is so laughable today, considering the Imperfects intro is basically just the first Avengers MCU film finale. The dude fell out of the sky through a builidng and was fine. Here, he gets killed by one of his main attacks: jumping through heavy objects and breaking them on everyone.
I’ll never forget this game I remember being 10 when it came out I was obsessed with it
I loved this game so much. Also the quote un-quote "fatalities" you could do in the game.
Hmmm I am a grown adult I have two children I’m behind on a work project deadline I have chores to do at home but when I thought of, “hey what was that one marvel fighting game called that I ran my PSP into the ground with?” Find this video, “yeah I’m going to watch all of it”
I grew up with this as my favorite game on my Uncle's PS2 and was elated when I found copies of it for myself on DS and GameCube this year. I mained Venom, so going through the story with some characters is harder for me, but I love to hear I'm not the only one who remembers this game.
Oh, damn. This is the first time I had memories rushing back from a game I thought I've totally forgotten.
Trying to unlock everyone, Venom vs Spiderman, Johnny Storm vs Johnny Ohm, those marvel heroes deaths, and that linkin park color grading.
I wouldn’t mind a reworked version of this game. Making the story more engaging with a larger scope, some more diverse gameplay, incorporating a larger cast of characters and more focus on the Marvel universe, making the Imperfects and their leader more mysterious and straightforward villains with more conflict with the Avengers themselves. I wouldn’t mind having the final battle Iron Man vs The Creator(I can never remember his name)
I used to play this game on my uncle's PS2 back in the day. Crazy to think how this game basically got me into gaming but it's forgotten by the general public
Bro, I didn't even know I still remembered Spidey saying, "You know what we call that? We call that a web slingin ass kickin." I WAS LIKE, 8 YEARS OLD! WHY DO I STILL REMEMBER THAT?!
This game is so underrated. It's actually a great fighting game based on Marvel. I remember playing this the very first time with no practice and I did well as Spider Man, somehow.
Is not
34:04 I laughed tooo hard at that tone of voice of how you delivered that line of Hazmat falling off the map lol
Pretty good retrospective, and since I never bothered to look it up I always assume the Imperfects
were obscure or new Marvel characters made for this, like Firestar was. My experience was different however,
only played the PSP version yet remember it looking darker, might be 'cus of the menus. Definitely will check out
both versions though. Having fallen in love with Daredevil because of the Netflix show it sucks he's not
in the PSP one. And just like you, I remember the music too. Excellent stuff! Game's moody, gritty, it's own beast.
Both an encapsulation of, and a perfect example of early 2000s superhero stuff
Used to play this game with my friend for hours back in the day. I remember Magneto and Iron man being super OP
Me and a close friend used to fight religiously on here.
Paragon, Iron Man, and Magneto were some of the best characters in this game. Venom was pretty OP too.
This was such a good game for its time. “I’m here to open a can of whoop ass!”
I loved playing versus with my friends. The story might have been boring, but it was fun as hell.
I just like how they made this games atmosphere dark and gritty and not all bright and cartoonish
I just started thinking about this game again and all the fun I used to have just having Spider-man and Venom face off. Really well done review!
A challenge mode would’ve been great. Honestly, that’s what keeps me into games that I have beaten with such a long story. I’ll hop into the four unleashed or X-Men origins Wolverine just so that I can feel OP and have fun destroying enemies that fear me
I did not expect to find a nice long video about this game and dang I'm so glad I did
finally, i waited a long time for this retrospective. i used to play this when i was a kid on the ps2. despite the gameplay not being perfect, you can say it was IMPERFECT ha ha, i would still play it for hours. i even loved the new characters, especially Johnny ohm and the wink, THE FACT THAT JOHNNY OHM AND THE WINK NOT MARVEL CHARACTERS ARE ABSOLUTY CRIMINAL IMO. the game was not perfect overall and i can understand why so many people dislike it but Marvel Nemesis will always have a special place in my heart. great video always nerdy
Haha sorry for the long delay 😅 Even though I wasn’t a huge fan of the imperfects, Johnny Ohm and Wink were definitely the 2 most badass. I also like brigade just because he’s so creepy lol.
I’m glad that others still remember this game fondly. For a flawed game, it’s surprisingly enjoyable.
Yeeeah?
Ookkay?
Man I can just imagine doom amazing dialogue like” Foot Dive! Foot Dive! Foot Dive! Foot Dive”
This game was a big part of my childhood, as of just throwing cars at the imperfect characters because I didn’t like them
This is the only game with Norman Reedus as Wolverine
Wait what? He didn’t voice him did he?
@@kevinpauly6342 nah just looks like him lol
Johnny Ohms is still one of my favorite characters. I remember finishing this game when it first came out and wishing they had a spinoff more focused on the imperfects team
I loved playing as Paragon. Her teleporting and like shock lines were so much fun to play together
I swear I was just talking about this yesterday.
But the idea of the x man, fantastic 4,daredevil all in one game kinda was dope doing hopefully avengers can pull something like that off.
I loved this game as a kid, and watching this retrospective makes me appreciate all the aspects of it much more
This shit was so gas, memory unlocked bruh. The art style too 🥵
loved the detail that one of Spidey's missions is focused on protecting evac attempts
Both this game and Avengers: Infinity War understand the ultimate truth: When the bad guy K.O.'s the Hulk in the first five minutes, you have yourself a very terrifying villain.
I never knew this game had so many Ocean Group voice actors.
I wonder if it had anything to do with X-Men Evolutions airing around this time. That show also had a lot of Ocean actors as well.
Game was fun af I put so many hours into it. Some of those story missions made me want to destroy my console though. Really hate it never got a sequel. the roster was nice but i Wanted to see more characters.
honestly i always really loved the imperfects i find them just as intersting as the marvel characters and i really wish we coulda have more fleshed out stories for them because their concepts are really strong imo
I suggest that this marvel game be turned into a movie to restore the dignity of marvel. The storyline of this game also has no lgtq elements and no stupid jokes.
@@mugiwarafishing588 im LGBTQ yo lmao i hope theyd make it gay the premise is good for ot they dont gotta make everyone gay tho lol i could do without the shit marvel writing has tho lmao
@@GigaGom If you are that group, I think you can put aside the immoral element to elevate the game to a movie. This is because minors can watch it safely. Marvel becomes dishonorable because of the intended element. I'm sure if Stan Lee was alive, he also does not agree with LGBTQ elements being included in the Marvel franchise.
@@mugiwarafishing588 Being LGBTQ doesnt inherently make it unsafe for minors. its good to learn that there are many paths one can take in life. Being LGBTQ isnt inherently about sex its about being yourself and finding your own idenitity whether it be finding what gender you prefer to be or not to be or who you find yourself attracted too either romantically platonically or otherwise. Which is something Stan Lee would agree with and has on multiple occasions over the years.
@@mugiwarafishing588 j7
BROOOO this is how this game is called. I played so much, loved the atmosphere! Holy shit, what a flashback
I am the only person who loved this game and wanted more. All my friends hated this game
I always remembered in the back of my mind a marvel fighting game that for the life of me I couldn't remember the name of. I didn't even realize this was it until you got to the part with Elektra at the daily bugle, I only vaguely remember that map and it being my favorite one. Thanks man for helping me😂
As a kid, this game was fun. As an adult who loves fighting games, yeah this doesn’t do it for me anymore. Kudos to you doing a review of this forgotten game!
I will never forget this game
This game was so sick for its time, I remember having my twin friends had this when I came over, they struggled on one boss and I remember beating it feeling so cool.
This is the game I think of when I think of “Gritty Dark Superheroes”
It was also pretty clear that it was gearing towards adding characters that had movies out (like X-men, fantastic four, daredevil and Electra and yes even Spidey.) though props for them to include the likes of Iron man, as his movie hadn’t even started preproduction but given how iron man is cherished, going back and getting to play him was quite a treat. Good on EA making the bold choice to include him
This games was the epitome of early 2000' Edgy's, I enjoy the game for what it was, I think in this case they change the Marvel Characters so they can fit better in this universe but they also more inspire by the Ultimate Universe (I also hate the Ultimate Universe because was just an excuse to make Edgy characters and make them act like Watchmen characters because Edgy and "Adults") but I like the Character overall, my problem with the Imperfect's is I don't think they fit so well in the Marvel Universe, they feel more like a DC Characters not because DC = Edgy, is more because how they manage the back-stories, but for the game they work enough.
Except for Wink she Fit Well, also I don't know why but back on the day I find her really attractive XD I think was his voice because she sounded really sexual talking with Wolverine.
Also Remember when this game came out an Iron Man wasn't everywhere?
Also it would be interesting seeing a Review of Batman Begins PS2 and Superman Returns also Ps2
2005 is mid 2000s.
R/Engrish
I really quite enjoy Brigade. A Frankenstein's Monster of Soldiers. Perhaps inspired EA's own shooters.
Holy shit. So a happy you made this video and there’s so many positive comments. Such a forgotten game that got barley decent reviews .. I loved it. The style of fighting/gameplay, story, original characters. Would love a remaster or part 2.
I used to play this game a lot when I was like 7-9 I remember loving being Spider-Man and daredevil
This is such a weird game, but I loved it.
Really sad we never got that second game. It wasn't a sequel, but I believe was part of the same deal with EA, and would have featured big open maps with destructible environments. Much more colourful and comic book-y than Imperfects.
There's footage online of a super early build. Would have been fun if it worked out.
Edit to add: whoops, spoke to soon, our boy talked about it at the end.
That game looked like so much fun. I’m still bummed it never came out. It probably would have played a lot better than imperfects. I also really liked the roster they were assembling for that cancelled game
@@alwaysnerdyretros Yeah, roster was looking rad. I know "Marvel Vs" type fighting games are so common, but I really want more Marvel fighting games that have full marvel rosters.
I basically never played as the Imperfects in this game, except when you have to. Would have rather seen the entire roster be Marvel folks.
@@kellymccabe9154 lol meanwhile I only ever played as Solaris and that grill that teleports
@@Juanmaligno hey that's fair. I'm not saying they're not cool! Just that, as a Marvel fan, I was there for Marvel characters, ya know?
I did the exact same thing. I never really played as the imperfects, but I definitely fought them with the marvel characters lol
I had so many great moments with this game.
I played it so much that I knew by memory every iconic intro for every character.
My friends and I had a lot of fun with this one because of how chaotic it was. Does anyone know what determined how damage to the second health bar inside the first was applied? My friends and I could never figure it out, and it always seemed to swing wildly up and down.
Man this game was my fucking childhood, I love this game so much. I'm so happy seeing someone mention this game thank you 🙏 ❤
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT!!! SUCH A HIGHLY UNDERRATED GAME MAN I MISS THIS SO MUCH!!! 😭😭😭
I actually love paragon's final cutscene. The revelation as to why the antagonist looked so weird being because he's actually an alien is amazing. And on top of that he created paragon to retake his homeworld and free his people is outstanding. He's an alien but ultimately he's only doing this to save his own people. Beings who suffered because others took advantage of their compassion to conquer their world and enslave nearly every member of his race.
THE GAME OF MY CHILDHOOD!!! I fell in love with Daredevil thanks to this game!
I had this game as a kid and I hated the gameplay. It just was so flat and seemed unfinished. With that said, I did have fun playing as Storm and Magneto.
Thanks for doing this retrospective ! I totally forgot there was even a story mode.
Paragon is such a slept on character. I'd love to see a game about the imperfects. It's amazing because a unfortunate event would later shape their powers.
My friends and I would have the most intense fights on the weekends.
When 2 players are good enough with their block and dodge moves, fights get soooo intense. This style of flighting game with interactive environment needs to be brought back!!!
i fucking loved this game. as a kid this was my first introduction to a darker super hero story
Oh yes let’s freaking go ! I was just playing this on my ps2 the other night
Oh awesome! Do you return to it often?
@@alwaysnerdyretros ahha yeah tbh man I like to fight in VS mode
@@blue_ex3852 It’s easy to get hooked on vs. mode. I’ve sunk plenty of hours there too. I still wish they had implemented a way to do team battles or a 4 player free-for-all
@@alwaysnerdyretros agreed that would be amazing
I've been WAITING For this retrospective for SO LONG!! I Grew up with this game and I'm so happy to see it still being recognized! 😍🤩
But in terms of reviewing it, I Agreed with this, the MARVEL aspect of this game just felt like a doorstopper for these imperfects guys to step in. If I were to rate it, I'd probably give it a:
7/10
"GREAT gameplay for it's time, but it needs more MARVEL if it's gonna be a MARVEL game."
Hahaha I know 😅 I wanted this to release months ago lol. I think you summed it up perfectly btw. It definitely needed to lean into the marvel aspect more. I still think this game had so much potential
@@alwaysnerdyretros the best part is that it came out before EA's dreaded Micro-Transaction fetish! 😂
@@DiamondBatToons hahaha that’s so true 😂 You know this game would be so microtransaction heavy if it was made nowadays. Although, we’d probably get some extra characters and skins though 🤔
@@alwaysnerdyretros true, all of the characters you mentioned in this, such as Cap, Hulk, and Punisher, they would SO be behind a pay wall if EA made this today
The bad thing is I would buy them IMMEDIATELY
Knowing EA, this was probably rushed to make *some* money back that was lost from making the engine for Starcraft Ghosts. I remember this being a fun game for what it was but it needed a stronger roster and story mode.
I agree with everything you said except for taking out the Imperfects. I love cross over characters, because they feel very niche. If Marvel somehow goes the rights to them and continued their stories I'd be on board. There's a lot of potential in them.
The best fighting game of my childhood. I always loved it the most, because of the 3D fighting style. It was the first fighting game I've seen that introduced that sort of thing to me. Majority of the other fighting games, like the Capcoms or the Mortal Kombats, were all 2D, side-scrolling type games. I wasn't a huge fan of that--still kinda not, even today. There was just something about MN:ROTI that caught my eye. I can still remember buying it for the first time at the OG Walmart as a kid for the Ps2. I was wondering "wtf did I buy" when I first started playing, bcz I didn't know what to expect, but the more I played, the more I fought, the more I fell in love, and slowly became one of the most OP fighters in that game, as just a KID!
I was capable of beating pretty much everyone who ever faced me in that game. _(Except for maybe one...)_
I remember playing it with some boys my age when we had a sleepover together. We played MN:ROTI, and since the (local) multiplayer was only 2 players, they decided to make a rule where the loser has to give up his controller and pass it on to someone else--BIG mistake on their part... I absolutely kicked their butts and won so many matches back-to-back, that they were forced to keep passing over the player 2 controller around to each other, because they couldn't beat me. They had to literally keep taking turns until someone was finally able to defeat me. Hahaha
That game became my life. I've been saying for so many years how it would be a lifelong dream for there to be a REMASTER (Or Remake) of Marvel Nemesis: ROTI!!!! With online multiplayer ofc! I swear I'd actually cry if that would really happen! 😭😭😭😭❤🔥
I remember seeing the trailer for the marvel chaos game and being so excited to see Spider-Man fight doctor doom also seeing cancelled unfinished gameplay on TH-cam makes me want a game like that a 3d fighting game in open world fully destructible environments is such a great idea I think for balancing gameplay they should have limited certain characters to certain areas like for example street level characters like daredevil, elektra can fight characters like bullseye, kingpin and punisher as well as characters like captain america, jessica jones, luke cage, iron fist, and spider-man but they can't fight characters like hulk, Thor, scarlet witch, vision, doctor strange, iron man etc like having different classes of characters where you can only have characters fight each other based on their classes my ideas for characters classes are like
street level for characters like daredevil
citywide for characters like Spider-Man
international for characters like Iron Man, Captain America, Black Panther and Wolverine wtc
Interstellar for characters like Captain Marvel, Thor Odinson, silver surfer, thanos, Adam Warlock,
And the final class is Mystics
For characters like Doctor Strange, Scarlet Witch, Loki, ghost rider, mephisto
I'd prefer it without classes and everyone can fight everyone. Injustice had the solution if a pill that increases the strength of the user, so it's how batman was allowed to fight superman.
I don't want a fighting game to say "no, this character is too strong, you have to fight someone else." Stan Lee said "when people ask who would win between this guy or that, the answer is always the same. Its whomever the writer wants to win." In your list, daredevil and Wolverine can't fight each other as Daredevil is street level, but Wolverine is international. However daredevil has beaten Wolverine before in a daredevil comic, showing that power levels really don't matter in a fictional setting too much.
This is one of those games that I wish would be remade for newer devices and of course with better controls & animation
Oh, I haven't forgotten this piece of art.
Game was freaking phenomenal def needs reboot
The best one liner you didn't even include was the thing where he says 'look who just sprayed you with a can of whoop-ass' lol, I would play the thing just for that line
I never forgot it. I used to play it with friends at sleepovers a lot and it's definitely a lot of fun especially the versus mode. It's also cool how grim and serious it is considering how rare that is for Marvel especially these days.
This game could be frustrating at times. I liked the Daredevil levels tho.
I actually loved this game. The soundtrack was intense and settings and vibe reminded me of Dark City. The story was interesting and voice acting was good. The fighting and gameplay was fast and fluid. Kind of like power stone. Overall it's underated and wish it got a sequel.
playing this in my ps2 while listening to Hybrid Theory with my little brother, damn. The memories are vivid
I loved this game. Sad to say that I never completed it. Was very close to it, though. I think I completed 80-85% of the game. Any chance for a remaster?
I wish!!! I learned about Johnny ohm here and also how much marvel loves the name John lol
Probably not, especially since EA owns the rights to the characters. I’d buy it in a heartbeat though!
Probably very low.
Just download it on Mac or pc TH-cam it pretty easy
Forget a remaster I wish theyd do a full on remake. Some of the designs would look crazy on next gen graphics
God, I remember playing this game over and over on my ps2.
I always wanted a remake of this game, this is my childhood game on psp
I've never forgot it we need this on the switch for this marvelous masterpiece
Uncle bought this for me for the xbox loved this game