We Need A Tractor Attachment For THIS!!
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- We haven't yet found a way to separate rocks from soil effectively. Skid Steer attachments are too large. We need something to fit a compact tractor!
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Build a screener with some 2x4s and small holed wire fence. Might take an hour or so but it will only take a few minutes to separate the rocks from the dirt. And you will always have the screen for your jobs if needed. I built mine with collapseable legs so it folds up and sores easily.
i fit mine over a wheel borrow
Great idea but I've seen them built out of steel framing with extremely heavy duty perforated metal
,Yep. Build a frame and use the heavy duty "square hole" hog wire. Something like 1/2" holes should work. Similar low tech solutions have been used for eons in mining and gravel pits. Set up at an angle. Larger roacks roll off front and dirt piles up behind it.
this^^ i had a similar issue and its exactly what i did except i use the 6" grid wich is much more sturdy then layed the 3/4 -1" screen mesh over. i had 3-4ft high post and just let the dirt pile under (it was dirt with branches and rocks i dug up for a a walkway and i wanted to reuse the dirt elsewhere on the property) and i didn't even have a tractor (shoveled it) upon retrospect i would have made an 45deg incline so that it clears up on itself . (i had to remove branches and rocks by hand) all the material where from hardware store and not that expensive. )
What you need is some 5 year old boys. My grandsons love to through rocks put about 5 in that bed and tell them to throw the rocks into the bucket. 25 min and it will be done. Give them ice cream
Titan attachments makes a 3 point adapter for the JDQA. Using one to mount a back blade would allow you to reach pretty close to the house and scrape/curl the material away. How tight you can get to the building depends on how the back blade is constructed. Also, I use the tailgate of my small trailer as impromptu grizzly bars. Prop the tailgate up at an angle with a couple 4x4s about 4 feet long and dump onto the expanded mesh of the ramp. Rock goes into the trailer, pull truck forward to grab the pile if need be. Its not perfect, but its better than nothing.
I’ve been a subscriber for nearly two years. I like this style of video better than tractor wars or attachment wars. I also like the path you’ve taken with Johnny X - an experiment until you ultimately break it in such a way you don’t want to fix. These spring videos have a different style and they seem better.
Agree with those who recommended a tipple ("Screener"). We raised sheep and I made a (manual) tipple of 1/4" welded mesh to seperate the rocks and roots so we could use the rich soil from the pasture/sheep shed in our garden. Mostly now we grow in raised beds. Not every job requires a tractor. ;-)
We had lava rock all over the place, and that stuff was down several inches. We made a sifting grill a little bit bigger than the bucket, just like you were making grate for a large BBQ. Just set it on a couple of saw horses. I dump dirt/rocks on it, then use the tractor bucket under the edge to raise/drop it a few times to shake and separate. Then I tip one end up to dump the rocks into a pile at one end of the setup. Once the pile of clean dirt below the grate gets large enough, I scoop it up with the bucket and pile it elsewhere for later distribution. (Same with the rocks, which will eventually get hauled to the dump if nobody wants them.) It's still a lot of work, but all the really heavy stuff is being done with the tractor, and it beats the hell out of picking them out by hand. But the dirt does need to be dry.
I have to do this very project at my house next year, glad to see the 1025r with 120r is the ticket!
I love the turbo whistle when you fire up Jonny X!
I got several steel screening grates from a local sand and gravel company. They are 3/4" and 1.5". The grates have to be replaced when a holes gets worn into them. It's time and labor intensive though! I also made a frame and attached 1/2" hardware cloth to it for smaller sized stone. I'd be real interested in an attachment you may find!
I think modifying a standard bucket would be the most cost effective and reliable method, any other attachment would sacrifice too much capacity from a compact/sub compact tractor. Make 2 very large holes to weld in the desired size of screen or make it bolt in so you can change screen size. Leave a strip of bucket in the center front to back for strength, add a bolt on cutting edge to the welded on cutting edge for rigidity and shake till your hearts content.
I like how you and your mom work together as a team. I am new subscriber
Nice job
Uh, my wife? She is younger than me!
Tim you have a small backhoe! Perfect job for a steady hand on the controls. Russ. Esko, Minnesota
I am currently doing some landscape work in front of my house (professionally done of course) and would like to use decorative stone but this video shows why your better off using mulch, even though you need to keep adding more over the years. I also have a retired friend that had a backhoe business, he said he uses a shovel just about as much or more than actually running the backhoe.
I have built a screening bucket for a tractor in the past. It "destroys" a bucket because it's only good for that from then on. But it held up to the digging force and did a pretty good job
Redline Systems makes a rock bucket, available with different spacing. the narrowest might work for most of that rock. I bought the 3 inch spaced bucket, not for rocks but for carrying firewood.
Also, I build a sifter out of screen. First one was sized for a wheelbarrow, then I built a larger one to fit the tractor bucket. a simple 2x4 frame and mesh. With only one tractor I need to shovel the material onto the screen, with multiple tractors you could scoop with one then sift into the other.
Expanded metal will work really nice
Tim one way you can do it is drop the rock and dirt on a screen over a trailer. I’ve done that in the past and it does work as a separator.
Do like the archaeologists do and use some 1/4" chicken-wire mesh as the bottom of a box, then hose the rocks down over the planter and let the dirt fall through.
I had the same situation you have there and simply dumped it all on the patio and then slowly raked the gravel away from the pile and the dirt simply falls to the bottom of the pile as you rake. As I got more clean rock, I scooped it up and into the bucket to haul to a storage area.
Keep up the great work. When your wife was saying you need these rocks for a attachment, sounds like its time to get a new one, hopefully fine the attachment your looking for separating the rocks and dirt.
you could build a screen that straps onto the front of the bucket. Then you can "dump" the bucket and smaller particles like dirt will fall through the screen. Then after multiple shakes of the bucket, you can unstrap the screen and dump out the rocks.
the other attachment could be an adapter Titan makes one to go from JD hook and pin to Skid steer. Then you could use one of the skid steer bucket screener buckets.
Tim your pretty handy with a welder. It'll mean cutting up a good bucket but I think you know where I'm going with it. They sale rock screen for the gravel pit industry. With a little planning I believe you could come up with a separator that'll work for you. Necessity is the mother of all inventions.
They make a front bucket with a hydraulic rake for removing rocks and dirt clods it’s called a rock hound been around since the seventies
Rock Hound 72 b Landscape Rake They should still make different sizes google it . I’ve had mine for over thirty years it’s more than just removing rocks it scarifies dirt
I have tried many methods to clear dirt from a rock bed. If its dry and the wind is blowing in the right direction a powerful leaf blower works fairly well.
Used an old wheel barrow and drilled holes in it for the gravel walkways on my house, I just scooped up the rock/dirt mix and ran a hose to wash the dirt through the holes, then I had a wheel barrow full of rock. Not efficient, but it worked great. I just moved the wheel barrow as I went. I should have tamped down the dirt better if I do it again someday.
Had the same problem throughout my yard! Old gravel parking lot was just covered up with a thin layer of top soil.
Built a 4'x8' shaker table using a sawsall for a shaker motor. You scoop up a load and slowly feed the table. The rocks shake down to one end and fall into a pile. The dirt goes through the screens, hits a sheet stapled underneath, and directs the dirt to a pile opposite your dump side.
For smaller jobs, you can use a drum-type compost spreader.
Mini skid steer Tim!!!! Bauma light has a nice one!!
Perfect job for a four in one bucket!
You need a 48' rock bucket. Also called a skeleton bucket. Titan attachments has one Corning to Google. I hope it helps!!
I picked some limestone mixed with dirt. I spred it out on a path I was making beside my house. After a few rainstorms, the dirt was gone, and the limestone looked good. I did the same thing where I park my trailer. After some rain the parking place looked good.
Looks like great back fill for the backyard....👍😏
lots of great ideas in the comments, what about a skeleton bucket and maybe a garden hose to wash the dirt you cant shake off? just throwing my thoughts to the wind
Fill bucket with rock dirt mix, Bolt/pin a screen to front of bucket, rock back and forth to remove dirt. Could have different screen sizes. Can also use water hose to rinse rock.
Love how well you two work together 🤠
I remember as a teenager separating rocks from around a big pool spent weeks doing it and made a lot of money also.
Here’s a thought. If you had kind of a grapple on top that was a landscaping rake with hydraulics where you can put the bucket down and sort of scoop it away from the edge of the wall into the bucket maybe just something that stuck out kind of far that you could adjust the tip of it angled like your landscape rake attachment and get right next to that wall from the top and then drag it back into the bucket. 🤔
Another I seen a snow pusher with a back drag attach ment on good work tractors that pulls snow away from edges that would work great especially since you have multiple tractors okay 👍
Loved the composite shoe story . lol
I welded a receiver on lower frame of my forks…..I long straight piece of square tube with a flat steel piece on end would allow you to reach, drop and pull.
Also let’s you push material with the FEL….you can search these that are used to push dirt/material underneath houses that are on pier and beam.
Great video Tim and I agree. That would be a great attachment. Seems like something could be done with a bucket. Maybe a removable bottom to a filtering screen below. Love your videos and your faith. Keep up the good work. Thanks Len.
Tim, I simply dug out the rock/dirt to an acceptable level and then added new black dirt. Best wishes.
@TTWT I can share what I did in 2003. One the first things I built when I got the John Deere 4100. Was a three-point adapter for the FEL. Which allowed me to put a rock rake on the front. And I used it to rake out an area like that.
Ya i ran into same problem. Need to build a grizzly screen plant. Do the screening off to one corner of property. Then pickup product. Takes more time, put easy solution. Take care, good luck
Well Tim, I share your pain. Unfortunately I don’t have any great suggestions, just the same questions you had. So, I guess I’ll just enjoy watching you and Christy work 😉 Blessings.
We use the mini ex with a grading bucket or exactly the same way you guys did it. Make sure you add soil to grade it away from the foundation for water drainage
You need a 4 in 1 bucket to pick up the stones and not have shovel them into the bucket.
A bucket without a spill guard would allow you to get closer to the wall to drag the stones away.
I love my Burder MSL loader and 4 in 1 bucket on my 1025R
Regards John
Tim,
Rhinos sells a riddle bucket for Casey
You can weld on traction steel to create smaller spaces for rocks to pass through
Cindy and Mark
Build a Grizzle..I made one for my Kubota BX and it works great
Titan Attachments makes a skeleton loader bucket designed to sift dirt, sand, etc.
Flat headed shovel are a blessing for jobs like this! Great video. There's nothing the crew and I hate more than having to hand rake and shovel Riverstone and other aggregate out of a garden!
I could be wrong here, but wouldn't the back-drag of the HLA snow pusher have made it way easier to pull the rock away from the house? Maybe not go as deep, and make several lighter passes to pull the rock back. Then you could just come back with the bucket and scoop it all up.
thats what we use our good hla blade we use it for snow removal,grading,dozing and back draging dabre wich we turned our hla pusher into year round multi purpose tool
Old fence / gate cover with mesh pour bucket of the mixture thru mesh into a container. Stones will stay on mesh. Tilt into other container.
Build a sieve. Simple to do with a few 2x4s and some wire mesh. Grab a load with your bucket and dump on the sieve, dirt will fall through and rocks will roll off the front.
A rockhound is made for that we have one on the golf course and it can be used with skid steer quick connect or 3 point hitch
Harbor Freight makes a nice little wagon with mesh sides & bottom. Wood vertical sides box built in it. Throw the stuff in it & drive around on rough ground. You lose all the dirt & keep the rock. Ooops. Never mind.
Chicken wire on a steel frame that you can connect to the bucket, flip up scoop dirt to sift, raise bucket, flip down the chicken wire sifter and shake away. Easy peasy
Hey Tim Great video! I have watched your videos on an off for a few years now as I was searching for a tractor. I settled on a 1025r and quickly realized that while the 1025r is amazing with the hills on my property it is a bit small to do the work I need to do so I ordered a 3046r that will be here in August. Any way I have always noticed your attention to Technical detail and determination to use the machine to do the work when jumping off and quickly using a hand tool would probably be faster in the long run. This was slightly puzzling to me until I went into your archive of videos and sorted them from oldest to newest and watched some of the older ones and found out you have a CS degree from Indiana (I think that is the school) and suddenly it all made sense. I also have a CS/Mathematics degree and in our line of work there are 2 number 1 and n and if you have to do it more than once why not automate it lol. Anyway, I thought that was funny how it seemed to click in my brain once knew that one little fact about you.
BS CS from Illinois. Oh, and I'm also lazy! :-) Thanks for the kind words.
@@TractorTimewithTim Keep up the good work. You are living out the dream of farm boys everywhere that went into IT and sometimes need a little tractor therapy.
You two are an awesome team, just know the lord has blessed you richly!!
I was thinking maybe that (HLA?) snow pusher with back drag you had at one point might have been able to sneak up to the house and pull the rock back. Mostly. I'm sure anything would still need final clean up with a shovel and rake.
So Christy found the bigger problem that I run into all the time. I need a bucket with a top scraper like the snow pushers for pulling material back from what ever its against. Maybe even hydraulic movable like a grapple so when you scoop up to the wall, you can drop it down to contain it in the bucket.
concrete hand come along works great when doing it by hand.
If your handy with a welder or know someone that is take and old bucket cut the middle out keep 4 inches in the front then that’s like 1 1/2 flat bar and weld in slots at whatever spacing you need
Good job old boy looking great. I'm sad my Johnny is in the shop 😢
Tim I have gone through that once and never again. Its always mulch from now on!! Only way I have ever figured out how to seperate rocks and dirt is fill the dump truck raise the bed and wash it out with a fire hose.
Front wood bucket with a smaller screen bolted on it. So you can change screen sizes.
For that size, my leaf vac does a great job, run at reduced rpm, back door open. Dirt goes flying, rocks come tumbling out the open back door.
Interesting! I would think the poor impeller would take a beating!
Tim I see you have the lights up and are ready for Christmas early this year 😅
I built a rock screen out of old lumber and wire fencing that works fairly well at separating dry dirt. The rocks will still have sticks and other large debris but the dirt is good. The big trick is making it low enough for a full bucket to dump over it and still have enough rock storage height at the low end.
There are a lot of tow behind separators designed for beach cleaning. There are also screens that you can put between the jaws of a 4 in 1 buckets to make it into a rock separator.
Get a firewood bucket attachment and wire some 1-2 inch hardware cloth on top of the grates and sift it right there. just a thought
Hey Christy, Hosta grows excellent in the shade. We live in central Maine and have Hosta on three sides of our house. It does better on the northern side versus the southern side. So tell Tim to get you some plants and plant them. Keep videos coming.
I agree with you about wanting a attachment like that. I've been trying to find the same thing for say compost or just dirt I seem to collect up from just out playing.
I am running into the same problem when I flattened the old farm land. I used my trailer with a grate and raked out the debris, rocks and the dirt goes on the ground. I remember at the old house I use my neighbors big steel grate washed the rocks but the dirt was on the drive way. My co worker came by and took all the rocks. I ended up putting mulch in
One way I would think to separate those rocks would be to take your grappler and put some hardware cloth or some thing on it or just build a toupee for a box that’s a sieve and use your bucket and dump loads of the rock and dirt in it and let the dirt fall out the bottom and then spread it out. For that small space that’s what I would do but as far as an attachment I would think for a compact tractor just a screened bucket, maybe you could even get something that attaches like pallet forks. I will probably just make my own but I’m sure they’ve got a screening bucket somewhere. Lol it’ll be awesome if you had an old bucket it was all rusted out or bent up, I could just cut a couple strips of it out and put some heavy screening in there.
You could find a hole in your driveway and fill it in, those are some good thick rocks, scrape off some of the finer gravel fill in the holes with that and then spread the fine gravel back over it. Maybe under a gas tank or were you put an implement outside or something like that.
As far as getting it away from the wall you could dig a hole in front of it and let it fall in the hole and then just fill it in. 😂
I’m waiting for the part of the video where you introduce some magic implement that can do it all. 😂
My father did this job with some home made screens (of varrying sizes) a wheel barrow and a hose, little by little it eventually got done. The only suggestion i have is to make your own or find a manufacturer who would be willing to help you create what you need.
Y'all didn't know Tim and Christy are volunteers in a top secret Deere-Pentagon project to develop a Luke Skywalker-like cyborg pedal foot, and Ariat boots offer the most compatibility with their 'upgrades' lol. I would've been into that brick wall for sure!
Sounds like you need to make something,I am sure that there’s a video or two about a home made dirt separating.
Use or build another bucket, cut the bottom out and weld in some rock screen. Or, make a frame where different size rock screen can be slipped in and bolted down. Scoop out the material, give it a bucket shake and the dirt will fall out and the rocks will be in the bucket.
You could even use a bucket with a rounded back. I have a JD400 with a Brantly 420 loader that would be perfect. Form the rock screen (or rock screen frame) so it forms the rounded back of the bucket, that way when you give it a shake, the ricks are more contained and won’t fall out the front into your work area.
Using the 4-1 bucket , open then back drag from the house..but use the gravel for the trail is great 👍
What i wish i could build is a "rock screening seperator bucket" for the 1025R using some screening grate or trash can grate! ive been wanting this idea for the past 3 yrs cuz ive had the same problem & i have bout 3 huge piles of dirt & gravel mix that i wannuh seperate! I do have a couple smaller pieces of this grating, but not enough to make a loader bucket with. ive taken these grates that i have & placed em over the top of my wheel barrow, then ive taken the dirt/gravel mix & dumped on top of the wheel barrow. This does work, but its a little time consuming because then i have to shut the tractor down, git off, & then use "manual" shaking action by grabbing ahold of the wheel barrow handles. Like i said. . . . it works. . . . .but it sure is time consuming to say the least!!!
Landscape rake in the receiver on the fork attachment would help
I had a similar problem with a flower bed at my house. I put a landscape rake on my front loader to loosen and drag everything out without taking out too much dirt. Then it was far away from the house to just use the bucket.
Your Hosta’s will grow just about anywhere except in direct sunlight. So they should thrive in this newly prepared shaded area. Nice job of repurposing the rock/dirt combo…it was an easy; and probably the most cost effective solution for your dilemma.
Maybe you can get another bucket for the loader, and drill holes into the older one but some screening material over the holes
Both of you did a great job
We use a wooden frame with screen stapled to it,with a HAND shovel
Grader blade, bucket and pull on concrete and use the power broom to finish clean. Add dirt if needed. That’s what I would do because that’s what I have.
The shovel works good . I haven't seen anything that would work in that small area.
Sometimes you need to use the non hydraulic powered tool.
I built a small grizzly for this type of work (all of the commercial ones were too tall for my tractor to dump onto). I use a screen on top that has 3/4” openings. I pick up the rocks and dirt with my tractor bucket - dump it on the grizzly - which separates the dirt (works best with dry dirt) from the rocks.
I use a square point shovel and not a spade. To be more exact, I use two hired teenagers with two square point shovels. Builds muscle and character. And way faster as my work/gripe ratio is 5 min/55 min an hour. 😀
Great video guys and I was wondering what is the point of those blue tape x’s
An empty dump trailer slightly tilted, a landscaping rake and a water hose work good in a pinch.
Rock bucket with some hardware cloth in bottom. Scoop up and shake a little to sift the dirt through. Needs to be pretty dry.
You should get a ditching wrist, if available, for your backhoe so that you can turn the bucket sideways to pull the dirt and rock away from your house. Then you would just need a flat bit for the bucket and that might help save a lot of foot work. Could of also dug out the front with the tractor bucket and then lay a heavy tarp or other fabric to take the rock from up against the house on to. Then fold and lift the fabric out with the tractor. Maybe a little less labor. Thank you for all the great content!
4ft rebar make a mesh to size bend up 6 in (bucket side) for a stop have it clamp on the bucket and an arm on each side and the middle that clamps the top of the bucket .. scoop sift tilt back let it fall in the bucket and depending on the loader capacity can probably fill the bucket and try and take less trips... Or get a used bucket and start drilling
Grapple with additional bars set so the gap is correct, or screen attached to it. Could make it removable.
🤣🤣🤣Crack me. Hilarious!! I can't imagine your going to do much with that big shovel. WOW HE SAYS !! love this episode. That rock is def a pain. Nothing easy about it. Think what you did with it was the best. It's like like you done a great level job with it with the drive curb there. Thanks for for ariat discount code. I wear those boots as well. Work hogs.. thanks for the entainment
I agree with multi biker mike. You need to build a softer out of 2x4’s and hardware cloth. Large enough to handle the width of the bucket but small enough to handle with just two people. You can dump the dirt and rock into it over the bed and then dump the rocks back into the bucket to put somewhere else you may need them.
A rock hound attachment it rakes the rocks into a bucket I modified mine with a fine heavy screen in the bucket portion lose dirt falls out and only hold the rocks an larger dirt clods
I built a chicken wire screen, attached to a wagon tractor cart and found a used vibrate motor from a salt spreader. Works great. Scoop a bucket full onto the screen and turn it on.
Well, as some have commented on the 4 n 1 I'm also thinking about two things. First thought was about the landscape rake from Heavy Hitch, could it have placed at an angle to avoid the hose bib also or just used to scrape up the rock material. Then the second thought would be an attachment for the 4 n 1 bucket, that Heavy Hitch or Bolt on Hooks make you to use as a screening device. Something like steal grading for support with a finer cover on top. This would then fit at the back of the 4 n1 front lift section, allowing the dirt to separate into the smaller bucket section when the bucket is at a lifted angle. The 4 n 1 using the hydraulics could be jostled back and forth to loosen or separate more material from the rock. Was thinking of that back in the video "4 in 1 Bucket, First Use, First Impressions" in 2019. Just a thought.
Spartan equipment has a bucket for skid steer with 3/8 inch spacing it's a little pricey at $1,900.00 maybe they could adjust it to fit Johnny's quick attach on the loader arm