Jean Alesi spectacular qualifying monza 1993
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2017
- Check out this superb piece of driving by Jean Alesi in the awfull F93A Ferrari, at Monza.
In a really crappy car, with a heart as big as the world and moved by the tiffosi, Alesi did the unthinkable, taking the whole track (and even more - see 1:55!) and reaching an unbelievable 3rd place on the grid, only behind the two Williams-Renault.
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O mais espectacular piloto que já vi correr.
Forza Jean!!!
Estabanado demais, espalhava p todo lado, perdendo tempo demais. Legal de se ver, mas muito pouco eficiente. Seus números na f1 falam p si.
A fond A fond et bac à sable🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cara correu em equipes de ponta, e só 1 vitória na carreira, não vejo nada de espetacular nisso !
Takes me back. Wonderful era for F1, still had some of the magic back then.
80 - 90 , the best years of motorsport .
absolutely
late 90’s early 2000’s were the dying breaths of the golden age
Nothing else to add
Alesi is driving the car so hard that the F93A's dismal active suspension can't produce its calculations fast enough to pitch him off the track.
AlD72 truth! That car’s active suspension was just diabolical most of the time.
What is active suspension? And it didn't have the same suspension as the other cars at the time?
@@andrewally3570 active suspension is a computer controlled suspension. it was banned at the end of 1993 as part of a move to get rid of all the driver aids. until then anyone who could afford the huge expense developed their own systems(many smaller teams didn't have it because of this reason). And while the Williams system was outstanding and the Mclaren and Benetton systems were quite good, the Ferrari system was just awful in every way and a menace to its drivers safety.
That car was so bad it was the same as the one in 1992 .
1:57 This illustrates how dangerous it was to ride up the kerbs in an actively-suspended car. If the system happened to take its samples at just the wrong time -when the rate of change of roll, pitch, and/or yaw were at their maximum - the system would make ridiculous adjustments and the driver would likely lose control. Incredible effort by Alesi here to maintain control.
That’s absolutely fascinating
The system was safe on the McLaren and Williams, but the Ferrari system had lots of problems. Mansell in 1992 put virtually the whole car over kerbs, that weren't even meant to be used. Check out his Adelaide qualifying.
Today he would be pusnished because of track limits
@@kbst8411 No. Drivers still allowed to go wide outside of Ascari nowadays
What a great observation
Pure passion...this is 100% Alesi, especially with his Ferrari in the early 90's...Fantastic to watch!!! ❤❤❤
An interesting point about Alesi's driving style which many people do not know about. Alesi would carry his neck at a lateral tilt which resulted in him using the sides of the cockpit to support his head ever-so-slightly. This enabled him to get a bit of extra chassis feedback from the flexing of the monocoque. As far as I know, he is the only F1 driver in the modern era who thought to exploit that. Unfortunately, Jean lost this subtle advantage because: a) He damaged vertebrae in his upper spine after a testing accident at Mugello in early 1994 - and the resultant neck stiffness prevented him from carrying his head like that afterwards b) Higher cockpit sides were mandated, anyhow, for 1995 after the terrible Senna and Wendlinger accidents.
What a spectacular pilot he was!
The shape of the old Lesmo curves was great.
So fast.
Fantastic to watch when Jean Alesi driving Ferrari.
Um perito no controle de carros tão potentes e instáveis.
Alesi was a beast.
The key moment explaining Alesis lack of success in F1 beginns at 2:55. Niki Lauda explaining they had to watch the tv broadcast to learn about the behaviour of the car as alesi couldn't express what's going on. What a pity for this incredible talent.
They way his career went it's a chicken and egg case. Yes Alesi was more of a feel driver in the mold of Gilles and never very good at developing a car. But whatever car you gave him you could be sure he'll get 100% out of it, like this godawful 1993 car in which he simply destoyed Berger who simply was too scared of pushing its limits because of the terrible active ride it had. Had he made a better career choice and went to Williams I believe he could be as fast there as Mansell was, who was also a feel driver not good at development. So even without tech acumen a driver with his level of talent could've become World Champion. But since throughout his career he was given only crap cars to drive which needed developing it was never a good fit for a driver of his type and the results predictable.
@@Montreal95that’s true. Berger destroyed Alesi in 94 with a passive F1 car. Berger was a better thinker and helped a lot on the car with his feedback. He was close to Niki and Barnard. On sheer speed Alesi was faster and better in wet conditions. But Berger was a more complete driver. Berger was also in the lat 1/3 of his career while Alesi in the first 1/2 of his. Last but not least Berger had a colossal crash at Imola in 89 and like Piquet back in 1987, he said he never went as fast as before after that. I really like both these drivers. Old school, great fun and so much more natural than what we see these days...
@@alexandreknapen946agreed, Berger was extremely fast in his early F1 years, but lost a bit of edge with his scary 1989 Imola crash.
Limite extremo e absoluto coisa linda de se ver.
Brings back memories of watching F1 on Eurosport when they had the rights on the old Astra analogue service. The only problem with their F1 coverage was that they would put adverts on the live races, meaning you could miss any crucial moments. I remember one being Damon Hill retiring from his home Silverstone GP in 1993. Before the adverts he was seen challenging for the lead, then when it went back to the live coverage he was seen already retired with the car stopped on the side of the circuit due to a mechanical issue. Apart from that, Eurosport had great coverage & would put on the full three days of a race fixture live starting with Friday practice. Best thing was no subscription was required for this channel.
Jean always gave 110% especialy with a Ferrari under him, even if that car wasn’t up to it, he was! The 93 Ferrari was not their best, and I remember him retiring the car on at least one occasion, due to the poor handling. Ferrari never seemed to get the active ride suspension right, so lost ground to Williams and Benetton. Never stopped Jean having a go though!
It was an awful decent car. Not enough to compete with the Williams.
Alesi was unlucky to arrive in Ferrari when Ferrari had got that gap from Williams and Benetton.
With a better car, he could win the Championship.
"Lola are looking for a partner to run a F1 team" haha
You know you're good when John Watson's praising your driving. He was also fearsome and unrelenting.
Boa noite !!!!
Lindo demais.
Que saudade dessa época fantástica da Fórmula 1.
Muito bom mesmo.
Obrigado pelo vídeo e parabéns pelo canal.
Grande abraço......
Miss Monza old first chicane 😭🤧
I didn't like it as a spectator back then, and was wishing it to be changed exactly in the way it had been later, but when I started to play on sims that old double chicane became my preffered part of Monza together with Ascari. Now I regret it
There was a difficult car to driving , three busy laps in a row despite a brilliant driver.
F1 back in the old days
I miss the old Lesmos.
Ele foi um piloto excelente o quê ele fazia nas pistas também não está no GiB não ele era fera no volante quando ele pegava na quela volante ele não tinha outra ele botava pra quebrar e não era pra menos não detonava muito vi que show de pilotagem que ele tinha todo mundo que estava lá viu
1:55 similar bowel loosening moment Alesi had at the same corner as in 1990!
Can you believe this guy only ever won one single GP?
1 secondo al giro a Monza. La differenza che passava tra la Williams di Prost e questa cariola con la striscia bianca.
Com o carro certo na hora certa, sem as porcarias politicas jogadas pela Ferrari e Prost, ele poderia hoje ser um dos melhores pilotos da história reconhecido por títulos.
Kkkkk... A "porcaria política" que o Prost jogava nele era 1 segundo por volta. Comparar o Alesi com o Prost parece aqueles débeis mentais que dizem que o Rubinho perdia sempre pro Schumacher por questões "políticas". Só rindo.
perde oltre mezzo secondo alla parabolica, l'unica curva del circuito in cui c'è da guidare e parzializzare, il che è tutto dire sul fatto che la Ferrari ai tempi in quanto a motore e penetrazione aerodinamica ci fosse, mancavano il carico e le sospensioni attive, fattore in cui la Williams era imbattibile.
Esatto. Nel 93 la Ferrari pagava ancora il gap tecnico causato nel 90 con la cacciata di Fiorio ed altri tecnici..grazie alle porcate combinate dai vertici Fiat (sponda Prost) per far saltare l'ingaggio di Senna. Il progetto sospensioni attive era già in via di sviluppo per il 91 ma saltò tutto per via di quell'evento. Chi è causa del proprio mal, pianga se stesso.
Sul fronte aerodinamico e delle sospensioni la F93A pagava un distacco enorme dalla Williams, ma pure da McLaren e Benetton. Fortunatamente ad Hockenheim debuttò il motore a 4 valvole, che diede alla rossa quel boost in più, insieme ad un minimo sviluppo. Infatti da li iniziarono a cogliere dei buoni risultati, come il secondo posto di Monza e la bella prestazioni in portogallo.
Luca Rinaldo, ricordo ancora le prime qualifiche in cui usavamo il 4 valvole, salvo poi tornare al 5 per la gara poiché non c’erano garanzie di affidabilità. Nel 94 quel V12 scavò un solco netto rispetto agli altri propulsori: a Hockenheim e Monza eravamo inavvicinabili in qualifica
@@antoninoagostini6320 Ricordo bene che Berger ad hockenheim fece saltare il motore a Schumacher che faceva i salti mortali per stargli dietro.
Grande Ing Lombardi
Alesi' non andava confermato per il 1994 con Senna libero.
n1
F93A
史上最高にかっこいい
フェラーリマシン
遅かったけどね…
フェラーリ史上最高にかっこいい
特に白いライン
よく壊れたし、遅かったけどね
よく壊れたし、遅かったけど、鈴鹿では一時的だがベルガーが予選でトップタイムを出したり、エストリルでオープニングからトップランを見せたり、見せ場は作ってくれた。エンジンもいい音してた！
This driver was a little less than regular 😮
1993頃かな
3
Sempre rotta ma una potenza
ダメじゃないですよ、そうわたしは彼らに言ったんだ
MDR. M BAC A SABLE 😜
😂👍👍 la réf. A fond, à fond, à fond.... 😅
Pauvre Jean.. 😊😂
どうにもならない、ホンダの速さに手も足もでない、そういう時代でしたクルマも売れない→オレたちはなにをやってきたんだ？そういう心情かなぁ
Get rat burguer
What’s spectacular about that?
It's Monza, Italy. It's Alesi. He's in a Ferrari. He's laying everything everything out to try to even get close to the Williams Renaults who were in a different universe in 1993. One man's sheer determination is the spectacular part.
The lack of appreciation borders on arrogant
Cameron and ignorance...
prolly a senna guy
The active suspension in the F93A was just plain diabolical most of the time, bucking the car all over the place, in comparison to gliding along in the Williams Renault FW15.
Overrated driver
Care to elaborate?