Nigel Mansell on the McLaren Disaster in 1995

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  • @Matthew-bu7fg
    @Matthew-bu7fg หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    wonder if he'll announce his retirement this year or whether Haas will offer him a drive

  • @NicotineRosberg
    @NicotineRosberg หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    He was right to leave. He had no interest in toiling at the back or even the mid field

  • @parallaxview2143
    @parallaxview2143 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    Ron Dennis and Nigel Mansell was never going to work. Nigel was too prickly and Dennis a giant twat.

    • @timakimat
      @timakimat หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      That has to be the most accurate and compact analysis I've ever seen on this matter.

    • @timyo6288
      @timyo6288 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes, you would know right?/
      just like I know the inside of Ur Mom

    • @jarekaugustyn4598
      @jarekaugustyn4598 หลายเดือนก่อน

      quite the opposite in fact: Nigel was crying twat and Ron was giant prick 🤪

    • @trappenweisseguy27
      @trappenweisseguy27 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I met Mika and Ron at a sponsors event in Montreal in the mid 90’s and Mika was a humble gentleman and Ron exuded arrogance.

    • @marks7197
      @marks7197 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Remember that allegedly according to Max Mosley the $100m fine for spygate was $5m for McLaren's actions and $95m for Ron Dennis being a...

  • @smith2781
    @smith2781 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    It was a shock to Mansell when he got to McLaren according to Mark Blundell. McLaren had fallen far behind Williams with facilities. Senna could see it that they were falling behind Williams too as he said since 91.

    • @donotevenbegintocare
      @donotevenbegintocare หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Correct. And ironic since many of the best engineers had left precisely because of Senna. Apart from his behavior over the years in general, the last straw for many of them was when he intentionally crashed at Suzuka T1 in 1990, with over 20 cars behind him all loaded up with fuel. So many people could have died.

    • @smith2781
      @smith2781 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@donotevenbegintocare Suzuka 90 was one of my first memories as kid. I remember watching it with my dad and he went crazy “ shouting he did that on purpose “. I never had seen react to anything on TV like that before which is probably why I have this memory so clearly. This and also World Cup 90 when England lost to Germany. I remember his reaction to Gazza crying when he got sent off he clapping saying “ you played your hesrt out son “. Then Stuart Pearce missing the penalty that broke his heart as he’s originally a Nottingham man. But I struggle to remember what I did at work yesterday 😂.

    • @arendeepropertymaintenance
      @arendeepropertymaintenance หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@donotevenbegintocareI don't think many people share your view. Senna won the world championship the very next year.

    • @alexshank1414
      @alexshank1414 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now look at Williams compared to McLaren. Excel sheets.

    • @Bennyboy1985
      @Bennyboy1985 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@donotevenbegintocare
      James Hunt gives a good analysis of Senna here:
      th-cam.com/video/UPXZyj8DpV8/w-d-xo.html

  • @detonator2112
    @detonator2112 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    That really was one pig of a car. Hakkinen still took two 2nd places with it. Could have taken one or two wins but had 9 DNF's. Mika was one hell of a driver. He had a competitive, winning car only for 3 years 1998-2000, took 2 WDC's, 26 poles and 20 wins from that... after coming back from the dead (he almost died at Adelaide 1995).

    • @theiceman7590
      @theiceman7590 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Well said. People always ask where was he earlier in his career well he was driving midfield Mclarens for half his career. Even Senna and Prost would struggle to win in those cars which is why the former left and the latter refused to comeback.

    • @detonator2112
      @detonator2112 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@theiceman7590 Even Prost (who I consider the GOAT overall F1 driver) couldn't win even one race with 1991 Ferrari. When the car is bad enough there is no chance. On top of that McLaren 1994-1996 was very unreliable. A HUGE amount of DNF's. Hakkinen had a lot of DNF's from 1st place. That Peugeot engine deal was a disaster. McLaren 1994 was almost as bad. Hakkinen took six podiums with that one.

    • @simonkevnorris
      @simonkevnorris หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was at Barcelona for the race that year sitting in the stand on the outside of the entrance to turn 1. The McLaren was an evil handling car and you could see it wobble through the turn.

    • @he1ar1
      @he1ar1 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ilmor engine played its part at Monza, as did Schumacher and Hill taking each other out. And Hakkinen's skill in the wet got success at Suzuka.

    • @alexlazebat839
      @alexlazebat839 หลายเดือนก่อน

      but the latter success was with adrian newey

  • @donotevenbegintocare
    @donotevenbegintocare หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Several of the McLaren engineers have spoken about this over the years, they have all confirmed that Mansell was not too fat to fit the car at all. Simply, he drove with a tiny steering wheel very close to his chest so his elbows were farther out than other drivers. The McLaren MP4/10 had a slightly narrower cockpit, which meant Mansell's elbows would hit the sides. It only took widening it by less than 2cm to solve the issue. It was not a fitness problem
    At the same time they have all confirmed that Mansell was an impossible asshole they all hated, on a level only reached by people such as Ron and Senna. Nigel's departure was due to doing things such as throwing a tantrum because a fan had asked him for an autograph. Apparently this was unacceptable and according to Nigel the team should've prevented it. Among many other tantrums.

    • @pher38
      @pher38 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The same Nigel who claimed he loved the fans. Also heard he had a tantrum because he had to sign for a hire car on the way to Imola

    • @carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977
      @carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wtf

    • @mustangecoboosthpp3869
      @mustangecoboosthpp3869 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Try again skippy, even Mika was an extremely tight fit in the McLaren, face it the car was a dog. McLaren redesigned the car making the cockpit larger, further Nigel was not one of the smaller F1 drivers at the time, he carried more weight than other drivers and weight hurts lap times. While Mika could squeeze into the McLaren it was even a very tight fit for him as well.
      The McLaren engineers screwed up and instead of just admitting it they blame Nigel Mansell for their failed engineering decisions.

  • @saippuakivikuappias
    @saippuakivikuappias หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I couldn't stand "Our Nige" as a kid. This video reminds me that I wasn't too far wrong. But let's be honest, he could drive. Christ, he could drive.... shame his character was more about hubris than humility.

  • @jimw6659
    @jimw6659 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Great find. Thank you!

  • @thatguyfromcetialphaV
    @thatguyfromcetialphaV หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    That 95 McLaren was a dog. Mika literally dragged that car to decent results before it nearly killed him.

  • @davidlawlor4317
    @davidlawlor4317 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    He is such a dose. His attitude time and again let him down. He should have been a 3 or 4 time champ

  • @davidpfleming
    @davidpfleming หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was in the paddock during that British GP 1995. I was walking past the McLaren hospitality unit which had the sides all open and there was a huge crowd of media people listening intently. Ron Dennis was speaking and from his tone of voice I thought something massive had just happened like Hakkinen had just dropped dead or something. Turns out he was just answering a question about why he wouldn’t confirm Mark Blundell as a permanent replacement for Mansell.

  • @SDK2006b
    @SDK2006b หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Dropped by F.Williams right before the start of the '95 Season for DC 🙄 It would have been amazing to see Nigel battling Schumacher for the Championship in '95.

    • @The-Tall-Photographer
      @The-Tall-Photographer หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes I wonder if Nigel could have shown his former magic. When he stood in for the team during 94 he was no match for Damon, certainly not during the race.

    • @spillage9392
      @spillage9392 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@The-Tall-Photographer Yeah, sadly I think his best days were behind him by then. He wasn't quicker than Hill at the end of 1994 or Hakkinen at the start of 1995. Given that in the end Schumacher won the '95 title pretty easily it's hard to see Mansell winning another title.

    • @carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977
      @carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@spillage9392girls?

    • @carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977
      @carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He won races tho.

    • @jamestrimbee8278
      @jamestrimbee8278 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@The-Tall-Photographer On the other hand, his stint for the team at Magny Cours really elevated the whole team, and he finished the season on a high. I think he would have given Damon a lot of support when Damon badly needed it, because in '95 he really lost the mental battle with Schumacher.

  • @Charles010
    @Charles010 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Nigel came back from the States in late 94, after Ayrton's death with the assumption of completing the 94 season for Williams, which he did, but also have a full season drive for 95. Mansell was just fantastic behind the wheel, one of only a few to go wheel to wheel with Ayrton and was a deserving 92 World Champion. What never stacked up for me was why Williams chose to sign Coulthard instead of Nigel for 95. Damon deserved the seat, but DC above Nigel, come on. Something just didn't sit right with that decision. Nigel does come across resentful in this interview. I believe he had every right to. He'd given up his US home and his Indycar career to come back, taking his children out of school aswell, to return to the UK assuming he'd drive for Williams in 95. The fact Frank and Patrick chose DC over him and with limited options on the table, he drove for McLaren, all but briefly and that was the end of his F1 career. Remember DC crashing out on the formation lap at Monza or shunting in the pit entrance? Then balance that with Nigel's passing of Berger on the outside at Mexico or that sublime move on Ayrton at Hungary when he went from 12th to first in the Ferrari. There is no parity between DC and Nigel, hence he has good reason to be bitter.

    • @pher38
      @pher38 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Money was the main reason. Coulthard was a similar level and was much cheaper

    • @stevekearey6462
      @stevekearey6462 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thus began Coulthard's fraudulent career stealing top f1 drives

    • @pher38
      @pher38 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stevekearey6462 the amount of testing miles practice cannot be underestimated. Some drivers were thrown into harder cars to drive with no testing at all.

    • @josiewallace7968
      @josiewallace7968 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@stevekearey6462 Coulthard fraudulent??? His F1 career was perfectly fine, might not have been champion but on his day he was a superb driver. When he joined McLaren the 96 car wasn't much better than the 95 car yet Coulthard dragged some solid performances out of it, and almost won THAT crazy race in Monaco. Oh, and when he joined Red Bull he played a part into turning them into a winning machine. Guy deserves some respect

    • @brandspro
      @brandspro หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Coulthard’s management team conducted a very classless smear campaign against Mansell throughout ‘94. One of the reasons I’ve had no use for Coulthard ever since.

  • @PlaidPenguinGaming
    @PlaidPenguinGaming หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Great driver and that 95 car was bad but Mansell loves blowing his own trumpet.

    • @andrewswatland4622
      @andrewswatland4622 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Confidence can often be confused with arrogance.

    • @TheBroz
      @TheBroz หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@andrewswatland4622In Mansell’s case it was both

    • @andrewswatland4622
      @andrewswatland4622 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@TheBroz It would be difficult to reach such levels of excellence without some arrogance

    • @PlaidPenguinGaming
      @PlaidPenguinGaming หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@andrewswatland4622that’s true and it’s not like anything he says is false. To be fair to him, given his talent a second title would have been deserved. But by 95 his time had gone, 86 being the one that truly got away.

    • @danielainger8666
      @danielainger8666 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yep people forget he was about 42 at this point only so much you can go on for.

  • @brendanmccallion2350
    @brendanmccallion2350 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    3:41 And people question Hamilton going to Ferrari who have a better car than Mercedes lately. Great perspective from Mansell.

    • @cardiffgiant9406
      @cardiffgiant9406 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree to an extent. But it also stinks from both Mansell and Hamilton of not wanting to work to develop a project or car. Granted, they are/were both towards the end of their careers at this time but look what Schumacher did with Ferrari. Mansell and Hamilton are world champions and their reputation would not be detriment-ed driving an uncompetitive car as much as getting beaten by your team mate in said car, which both Hamilton has been consistently by Russel,, and Mansell consistently was by Damon Hill and Mika Hakinnen in 94/95

    • @sabataskull9661
      @sabataskull9661 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@cardiffgiant9406 You are right. Well , Rosberg beats Hamilton with the same car too.
      Hamilton in Ferrari seems a lot like Prost in Ferrari in 1991.
      Worse, because only Senna as teanmate beat Prost...

  • @blackflagqwerty
    @blackflagqwerty หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    IMHO Williams should have pushed DC back to test driver and given Nigel a contract for 95' I think he would have beaten Michael to the title. Nigel was a total whining boofhead, but he was totally fearless and was awesome to watch.

    • @alexlazebat839
      @alexlazebat839 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Coulthard would of gone to Mclaren, Blundell was a race by race driver

  • @jakubkrcma
    @jakubkrcma หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nigel won the British GP *four* times (Brands Hatch 1986, Silverstone 1987, 1991, 1992). In 1985, he won the *European GP* in Brands Hatch. He also had 3 consecutive pole positions (1990-1992) and *SEVEN* consecutive fastest laps (1986-1992) in the British GP (which may be the all-time F1 record).

  • @bfc3057
    @bfc3057 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I saw Mansell speak at his golf clubhouse in the end of 1990s. I can confirm that he is as rigidly paint drying boring in real life as he is on TV. He just kept going on endlessly about the importance of golf etiquette.
    Fortunately for Mansell his skills lay elsewhere.

  • @Keithhundt
    @Keithhundt หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Nigel, Never short on ego

    • @turboman6680
      @turboman6680 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mostly justified though

  • @Dking863
    @Dking863 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I watched Mansell racing in the rain.. greatest drive I've ever seen.. unreal speeds on a wet track.

  • @TheLondonPhoto
    @TheLondonPhoto หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I mean Frank Williams chose DC over Mansell for 1995, what on earth was he thinking?? 😂

    • @josiewallace7968
      @josiewallace7968 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Coulthard did a sparkling job as test driver for Williams, and his stand in performances in 1994 were admirable given the circumstances, so imo it was only fair he got the 1995 Williams drive. Mansell was a great driver in his time, but oh lordy did he love to whinge and moan

    • @captainmagenta899
      @captainmagenta899 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Money.

  • @roddlecoddle
    @roddlecoddle หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One of my childhood heroes

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think Mansell should have taken part fully in BTCC. I dont mean just for one or two races for the year... i mean the whole season.

  • @dazcouz
    @dazcouz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have the mini review they did of the season so far on Grandstand at the 1995 British GP. I have been looking for that footage for years. Thank you.

  • @user-ei9bv8ku5n
    @user-ei9bv8ku5n หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nigel mansell,Legend

  • @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
    @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah Mansell had to give up racing after the Spanish Grand Prix in 1995 due to his car being undrivable and he couldn’t fit in the car to begin with that cause him to miss out the opening two races and then came back for imola which he finished a disappointing 10th just out of the points

  • @AnimaLBlundetto-
    @AnimaLBlundetto- หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've heard that Nigel's mustache gave him some sort of advantage over his opponents . It's pure speculation but certainly some truth to it 😅

    • @puckletruscot7562
      @puckletruscot7562 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Mansell, Graham Hill, Keke Rosberg... I think there's something in this moustache theory.

    • @AnimaLBlundetto-
      @AnimaLBlundetto- หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@puckletruscot7562
      I'm gunna guess maybe the moustaches have a hidden Aerodynamic factor to them 😂😆

    • @sabataskull9661
      @sabataskull9661 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The moustache gives you a bonus of 50 horse power 😂😂😂.
      And porn actor bonus in the bed😅😅😅

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mansell loves his golf

  • @sabataskull9661
    @sabataskull9661 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The mistake was made by Ronny Dennis. Bad cockpit and worse car. It is a miracle that Mika Hakkinen ( a future 2 times champion, no less) could score points with that fucking disgrace of car. I don't blame Nigel at all.
    They try a central wing to correct that junk "car". 😂😂😂

  • @lukemallory7832
    @lukemallory7832 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He was offered the drive at Jordan for 1996 - Benson and Hedges wanted him. When Nige said no, they went for Brundle. His appearances in the BTCC showed he still had 'it'.

    • @alexlazebat839
      @alexlazebat839 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ah but that was mclaren 3 year deal. the btcc was in 1998 when the 3 years was up

    • @lukemallory7832
      @lukemallory7832 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alexlazebat839 Yes but contracts are only worth the paper they're written on, as the saying goes...

    • @alexlazebat839
      @alexlazebat839 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lukemallory7832 but then why did it take nigel 3 years to race again marlboro wanted a world champion

    • @lukemallory7832
      @lukemallory7832 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alexlazebat839 Matey, if you google 'Mansell Jordan 1996' you'll see him testing the Jordan 196 (not in Marlboro colours) in late 1996. He apparently was offered the drive in 1996 and 1997. I don't know why he didn't accept only that he was out of shape and 43 years old by then, and probably was not going to win the championship. Williams should have kept him on for 1995 in my view.

    • @alexlazebat839
      @alexlazebat839 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lukemallory7832 ah yes testing is different i know and its 97 as you see ralf schumacher there. Prost tested the Mclaren MP4/9 despite having a williams contract for 94

  • @mitchdaytonam3
    @mitchdaytonam3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Nige was his own biggest fan wasn’t he.

  • @krisverstraelen9774
    @krisverstraelen9774 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    A giant ego with white socks

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Ron Dennis's management of Nigel Mansell was disrespectful.

    • @theiceman7590
      @theiceman7590 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Showing up too overweight to fit the car is pretty disrespectful tbf

    • @smith2781
      @smith2781 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      It was always going to be a toxic relationship. Ron is very serious no nonsense. Mansell is a drama queen and complains a lot.

    • @uv77mc85
      @uv77mc85 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@theiceman7590 He always needed a special tub to fit in. They should have known that

    • @simonkevnorris
      @simonkevnorris หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I believe it was his shoulders and elbows that did not fit not his arse.

    • @pbysome
      @pbysome หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@theiceman7590mansell was never fat he has broad shoulders (one of his strengths) the car was a pig no one did any good in that car.

  • @cdname47
    @cdname47 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    At the same time Frank Williams was disrespecting Damon Hill, Ron Dennis was disrespecting Nigel mansell
    What have the British guys in the 90s gotta do to get a break lol

  • @captainmagenta899
    @captainmagenta899 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "I haven't retired." Bold words from a man who had twice announced his retirement from F1 previously.

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had Mansell did drive for Williams for 1995, who would have been the number 1 driver?
    Mansell or Hill?
    Who would have had 5 or 6? 🤔

    • @chrisbowgett5835
      @chrisbowgett5835 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I also think this aswell... surely Mansell Red 5 again and Hill White 6

  • @tomcharlton586
    @tomcharlton586 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i knew before even watching this that it would be 8 minutes of nigel talking himself up and blaming everyone else for his failure. had to laugh at his comment about being commited. behind the wheel maybe so, but his attitude to testing and stuff like that was abysmal. theres a reason that ferrari favoured prost over him, and it wasnt because of skill.

  • @blahblahwhatblahblah
    @blahblahwhatblahblah หลายเดือนก่อน

    Steve Pising rides again

  • @lachmack8967
    @lachmack8967 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    so rather than help his team develop the car into a competitive one, he bailed..yeah some dedicated driver he was in 95. comes across as a twat.

  • @Eat-MyGoal
    @Eat-MyGoal หลายเดือนก่อน

    Winningest, though...

  • @mansellracing8690
    @mansellracing8690 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a true legend, there will never be another Nigel, they broke the mould when
    he was born, Not to mention what a true gent he was to, Always has time for his
    fans, One race stands out from all the other races he ever raced has got to be
    when his Tyre Exploded at Australia trying to get past Alan Prost was it, OMG
    goose Bumps is all i can say, I really felt bad for him, I was only 15 years old
    when i watched this race, But my heart was in my mouth, i felt so bad for him.
    Like Mansell once said, It's the one that Definitely got away. Oh Oh It's Mansell
    His tyre has completely exploded, and He's banging his wheel in frustration,
    Gotta Love Mansell, He's a one off is our Nigel. he is MR F1. Love the video
    My friend very nice footage of our Champion, Grate stuff mate.

  • @davissi
    @davissi หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 'royal we' all the time I find very irritating and that time was probably where the dislike of that phrase started.

  • @The-Tall-Photographer
    @The-Tall-Photographer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He was too fat to fit in the car I recall.

  • @JamesC1981
    @JamesC1981 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    wasnt it partly because mansell was too fat and couldnt fit in the car lol

    • @simonkevnorris
      @simonkevnorris หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It was his shoulders and elbows that did not fit not his arse.

    • @pbysome
      @pbysome หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Mansell was never fat and in fact still isn't.
      Can't beat understeer.

    • @_Ben4810
      @_Ben4810 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Adrian Newey was at fault for designing a car that one of his team's contracted drivers simply could not fit-in let alone complete race distance in.

    • @davidjones5684
      @davidjones5684 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​​@@_Ben4810 Adrian Newey was still at williams then.

    • @CharlesDarkson
      @CharlesDarkson หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No because Hakkinen seriously struggled to fit into it as well.

  • @asdf2593
    @asdf2593 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:35

  • @alexguerrazzi
    @alexguerrazzi หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After Senna dead and Mansell Prost Piquet retired F1 next yeras over 94 for me is the worst I have seen, until rough 2002-2003. Williams could have Mansell forr 95 and choose Coulthard

    • @lucianstefanboros6661
      @lucianstefanboros6661 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Quite the contrary, F1 was better from 1995 onwards.

  • @SDMotorsports
    @SDMotorsports หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Never missed an opportunity to talk himself up did he

    • @randomcamerajunk6977
      @randomcamerajunk6977 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Give the man a break he was an actual living legend even back then. 😂