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Let's be real, a large chunk of people aren't Digimon fans because of the games, they are fans because of the show.
Facts, watched the show when I was itty-bitty and LOVED it
True. I remember getting a Digimon game for PS1 as a kid and I hated it. Really wanted to like it because I loved the show so much but it wasn't for me
Yeah, I love the anime but I never liked any of the games
well... there is another option to being a fan of digimon... honestly sometimes i forget that digimon other than renamon exist...
Or they found the Angewomon fan art
I love how Jaiden came out of this being like "I hated this so much, it was agony! But Digimon's kinda cool." which apparently is every Digimon fan's opinion on it.
Stammer, lol autocorrect .
I personally never really played any Digimon game ( I guess except for Digimon rumble Arena 2, basically a smash bros version, which was really fun) but most of them looked rather boring to me. But I really enjoyed the TV series of them. I would guess that's from where most the Digimon enjoyers come from, not from the games.
Basically yeah 😂
Yeah she's a true fan now, we're all so proud of her
As a Digimon fan. Yes.
"Big Worm starts off as a lizard! That is the opposite of how evolution works!" Wait until she finds out where snakes came from it'll blow her mind.
Where?
@@zsigmondfeher4624 spoiler:
lizards
I came here to say this exact thing. 😂
Snakes were lizards first so she is true
It’s Digimon!
I will say, 'landing in a mysterious land and fighting for you life while strangers who love you cheer you on' is more or less how the digimon show starts
Jaiden went from being an animator who likes pokemon to a pokemon player who likes animation
@DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE ok i wont
Yes
@@tallerfrodo1262 🤓
yeah, and we all have too. 😂
@@tallerfrodo1262 Exactly.
As a Digimon fan, you have no idea how right you are about the "fandom that has been hurt over and over, trying to hang on to something good"
aww hope u guys get a decent game soon
@@Akitsuki20_21 i mean, Digimon Cyber sleuth complete edition is posible The Best thing on The serie and it was out less than 5 years
I'd tell you about one, but is againts the rules.
V-pets: are we a joke to you?
@@Akitsuki20_21 For now it's just very thought provoking emotional animes.
Man, after working so hard to learn how this game worked, it sure is quite a thing to see someone experience THAT FEELING OF "WHAT IS HAPPENING, WHAT SHOULD I DO?!"
As a fan of both pokemon and digimon they are very different in my opinion. Id say give digimon survive a chance. Its an amazing game but mostly a visual novel. It doesn’t require any prior knowledge of digimon and is an incredible story. Though my advise is if you do play it avoid any spoilers. Its a one of a kind experience
Yeah I'd only really recommend survive to people that like visual novels. I was excited for the tactics rpg aspect of the game, and it turned out to be a lot more sparse than I was hoping.
But shockingly I really enjoyed the visual novel aspect, I usually hate dialogue heavy rpgs but I actually liked survive and its story.
Digimon Survive is just Devil Survivor 3 it's so funny
The story, the characters and the dialogues of Digimon Survive was actually funny and relatable. The only thing that I hated was the battle, it was so long and boring, also lack of Digimon choices 😭
Honestly, I couldn’t stand that game, only because of the visual novel aspect. It’s not that I dislike reading in my games, it’s that I didn’t want a monster fighting rpg (ideally) to be a picture book.
"I played the game, hated it but somehow still like Digimon" is honestly a great summary of what it's like being a Digimon fan.
i see myself in this comment and i dont like it.
me replaying digimon dusk for the fourth time lol
Played with speedup functionality, the DS games SLAP
@@joemitchell1796 It's the only way I can play these games anymore...
quite literally because my cartridges keep crashing lol. at least it makes the grinding in the late game less painful, especially in World DS- like why is Chronomon so beefed up compared to everything else beforehand?
That... Is genuinely beautiful.
You've learned the real lesson of Digimon games: You don't *find* a Digimon game you like playing, you *allow* a Digimon game to rewire your sense of fun until you're the kind of person who likes the game that's been driving you mad for hours.
Honestly the Dawn/Dusk games ruined my brain because the grind was just so good. Now i need to grind
Like league of legends?
@@NG-gy6iv in a sense but i think you still keep your humanity
@@thelittlestkovo8990 yeah that’s one thing about this game grinding feels rewarding when you get to evolve your digimon although one thing that I hated was when my digimon didn’t have enough IQ so I had to devolve it again to then evolved again to then grand more XP to finally get the evolution I wanted to evolve it into but couldn’t because it didn’t have enough IQ or whatever is called what you needed for your digimon to reach higher levels.
@@thelittlestkovo8990 as a big dawn player… I also played Runescape
I really hope you give this series another chance with games like Cyber sleuth, and digimon survive.
I also agree with the guy suggesting Shin Megami Tensei.
I mean, agree on the SMT recommendation in general, but…that’d be a WILD Jaiden episode.
Kinda want that, now, actually. Would love to drop her into Nocturne and see what she takes from it, would make for a fun episode.
I recently played Digimon Survive, that was a good one. I would like to see Jaiden react to that one.
The show is the one true thing that holds the fandom together, I never even looked into the games because I just knew they were terrible after one itsy bitsy look at them
I think the biggest problem is the games are clearly designed for a predominantly japanese playerbase, so they tend to lean in to the grindiness and weird jrpg plots.
Which sucks because the underlying game mechanics are actually SUPER fun. You just gotta suffer through the other stuff to really get to enjoy them -_-
Is the opposite of pokemon fandom in that sense. While pokemon fans are all about their favorite generation referring to the games and merchandise, maybe recalling that the anime was not terrible then. Digimon fans will go gaga when discussing their favorite anime seasons and maybe know about the games, but they are rarely passionate about them
@@flashfreak62 Nah, the main problem people disagree is that the games are a large variety of genres. The same people who are into tamogachi games are often not into RPGs and vice versa even though there will some overlap. Pokemon and other game series don't usually face that issue because if anything they are often too much the same.
Cyber Slueth and Survive are pretty good
Games are great, Its a bit of a grind, but thats what makes it fun for me. You will like you actually know the digimon personally by the end of the game,
as someone who grew up with this game, i went from “oh she didn’t like it?” to “yeah i remember that…oh yeah i remember that too…” amazing what the child brain puts up with
Most kids never had the chance to explore lots of options cus money.
Seriously! I 100%ed my file of Digimon World Dusk and I look back on it with nostalgia glasses as my favorite game ever but if I tried playing it again today I think I would put my head through a woodchipper
Yeah... I could even forgive the use cheat codes, with the me now, for Dawn and/or Dusk. The grind is much more maddening now that I'm an adult, compared to when I was a kid.
I think a lot why we put up with this kind of shit a kids, is that (if you were lucky, like me) we just had soooo much time to kill, and it didn't matter that much if the game wasted a lot of it with grinding or pointless fetch quests. I played a lot of Runescape, WoW, early Pokemon games, etc growing up, but I wouldn't consider touching those as an adult with a full time job - my free time is more valuable than that now. I still occasionally play Pokemon Showdown, though, because I can just do the actually fun parts for me: build teams, then fight strangers with them!
Lol yeah if you liked a particular franchise even if the game was terrible you somehow found things to like and look back on with nostalgia.....just dont replay it lol
I love how presumably, before this game Jaiden never had any experience with Digimon, she managed to get the joke of Leomon always dying in there
Maybe the storyboarder actually played digimon?
To be fair that’s like the most surface level Digimon Joke.
Digimon cybersleuth and hacker's memory are both good digimon games. I would love to see and animashion of you playing cybersluth and your reaction to the story. 10/10 good game.
Recently just replayed cyber sleuth and I forgot how much I liked it
I suspect they started off a new IP that they just slapped some Digimon into for brand recognition.
Cyber Sleuth is a good game, particularly on the switch where you can cheese XP by leaving your system on. The only complaint I had about it was some very spotty localization. The Golden path through the story is fine but any side road you travel, and you have to travel on a lot of them, get very "all your base are belong to us" very fast.
To be fair the reason for that was because Cyber Sleuth was never meant to come to the states. It was originally Japan only until a massive petition came out.
Bandai Namco saw how big it was and said alright and released a, admittedly very rushed english version.
But because it sold so well in the states that it's "sequel" had an actual localization budget behind it.
also Digimon Cyber Sleuth is kinda challenging, so I think Jaiden would get through but.. she would have get used to the difficulty the bosses throw at her to properly enjoy it. Kinda wonder why people didn't recommend her that game in compare.
@@Evilriku13 Not to mention dark. the game tackles some serious issues in some of the side quests and I love that. Great game for sure.
I agree with you and the previous comments. Cyber Sleuth is great, but not without its flaws.
However, I still say the positives greatly outweigh the negatives. It's a good starting Digimon game IMO.
1. I love that Jaiden seems more expressive in this animation.
2. The game broke her so much, she actually cursed in an animation.
Surprised me too
yeah that was weird
she said "bitch lasagna" in Japan Trip outro (I think it was that one), and has been known to swear frequently in collabs. I'm glad she feels more comfortable doing it
At the beginning of the video, when I was trying to think of what the best Digimon game would be, having played Digimon World 2, 3, Championship, Dawn and Dusk and knowing stuff about 1, I was thinking that Dawn/Dusk would be the best choice, because they don’t get out of control as easily as 1 and Championship do, and they’re more fun than 2, and they’re not a hellscape like 3. I remember really enjoying playing through both Dawn and Dusk-I played Dusk with an Action Replay when I was a kid, and then I played through Dawn without any hacking just a couple of years ago-so I was really surprised that someone who seems so much more experienced with gaming than me would have such a bad reaction to it...
@@autumnphillips151 you also have to remember Dawn and Dusk were made with Digimon fans in mind. If you know how evolution works in a general sense in the franchise(as an example) then the evolution trees and stat requirements might not be as daunting as to a new player, but if your new then without a proper tutorial it could come off as tedious since it could get very confusing.
The fact that she finished the whole game and didn’t just give up and switch to a different one earns all my respect cuz I got a headache just imagining playing that
The funny thing is the game is intended to be played far beyond what she did
aha, YOU HAVE NO IDEA 🥲🥲🥲
I love digimon but man that game, i rage quited like 1 hour into it
Agreed. I have that game and I had to take a week-long break from just the first hour of playing!
You are damm right! I tried to play digimon world 4 (i guess it was?) with my 2 cousins for like 3 years before we gave up! AND WE DIDN'T EVN GOT THE CHANCE TO EVOLVE ONE DIGIMON NEITHER GET TRHOUGHT THE FIRST ACT OF THE MAIN STORY! The only good memories I got from a digimon game is fightng one wich name I can't recall... rumble arena maybe? I don't know and I don't want to bothr google with that
Jaiden, if you haven't been completely put off of Digimon, I would suggest watching a season of the show, any season will give you the base concept well enough, though there is story so you may be lost if you start later, although Digimon Tamers is my favorite series. Either way, watching some of the show should give you a base concept of digimon as a whole so you're not going into a game completely blind.
Or she plays that Digimon Adventure PSP game that came out in 2012 or so which is based on the anime's first season.
@Evilriku13 I never played that one, I didn't know it existed. Sounds spot on though.
the digimon tamers series is really good imo
Digimon World is a chill game. It is an accurate representation of the Digimon concept. Everything you do in the game does advance your progress. A mon dying is a part of it. The cycle of raising a mon effectively is the main gameplay loop. Then there's exploration that results in getting things that make raising a mon much easier. I would recommend going in blind, but having a guide ready if you ever feel a little stuck or confused. In general the game gives you a lot of info if you talk to everyone in the city. The slow upgrading of the city is also really rewarding. Raising mons may feel like a bit of a grind, but you get into a comforting daily routine.
World 1. World 2 and world 3 are different
@@HazeEmry Was only talking about world 1
I'm glad to know that Jaiden had a great time and is completely mentally sound after completing this game.
Reminds me of myself before I became a digimon fan.
@@valdish9620 lol
I'm not mentally sound after this game so imma stick to extremely hard hard-core randomizer nuzlockes,
@SkySartix Digimon kinda mid tho
but its an easy game
Jaiden discovers that old jrpgs are hell. I applaud her for her grand efforts
not all of them. This one though....
1:98 whats th is theme called?
HOW DID YOU GET SO MUCH LIKES IN 2 HOURS???
@@danielrivas2560 why did this sound like a very bad mobile game ad when i read it 🤣
This is a DS game,wtf are you talking about
I watched the show when I was a kid and loved the 3 season but this game sounds like torture. Jaiden I am so sorry for what you went through :/
I liked and enjoyed your video a lot.
Your review was quite entertaining to watch the summary. Your animations are funny.
I’m sorry you had to suffer through that game.
You had quite hints that Digimon World or Cybersleuth, but you choose a random game hehehe
I hope you make a review of another of the two above mentioned good games.
2 videos in a month? Jaiden is truly a gift giver
Honestly! She’s amazing
and my gift, is getting the top comment
Thanks for reminding me, I completely forgot to watch the other video
YES
I knew it seemed rather quick that a new video was out! At first I just thought I was late to the last video and didn't realize it when I watched it, but naaah, two whole videos in a month! Jaidon's on a roll!
when she said that the Digimon fandom is just hurting and desperate for a good video game, i felt that way too much
as a digimon fan yeah all of our games suck
As a digimon fan, same.
@@m.o.d.ethegod4182 survive is pretty good.
Ya my personality problem with the digimon game is that most have a good concept, but they always add that one mechanique that makes game way to over the top grindy and drags it down way to much.
*cries and sobs while nodding*
Can I just say that the animation she makes is amazing 🤩 and I’m so impressed by her talent
Definitely play Digimon Cyber Slueth and Digimon Survive! Both are AMAZING stories!
Love how despite she not knowing anything about digimon STILL MANAGED to make a joke of Leomon dying.
this is the choice of he Steins gate
Don’t the animators choose what goes in the animation?
leomon literally has to die every time he appears, no one can stop it from happening it's just destiny
@@seveneyes77
Just in case you're not aware, it's a pretty common trope in Digimon for Leomon to die.
@@seveneyes77 Nope. Their Will Is Bound By Corporate Overlords Seeking Personal Profit At The Expense Of Their Animator's Health And Sanity.
Jaidens Channel is just slowly turning into let's play animations and I'm here for it
I mean when you’ve pretty much told every family or friends experience that was considered funny, gaming seem to be the ideal path
sheen this is the 7th week in a row you made this comment
Yeah I like this style of content of stuff, but I kinda miss the old style of content lol.
Bro, she’s been making gaming videos consistently for like 2 years now.
@@ante6892 okay? So like I said
Yeah... A lizard turning into a sea snake isn't the weirdest digivolution you can see...
Great video! You really should have played Cyber Sleuth though hahaha
"When it comes to monsters and creatures, I must admit, I am an edgy b**ch" is the best quote in this whole video. God, I love Jaiden 😂
And one I can absolutely relate to
It caught me so off guard lmao 😭
agreed
I swear to God the first minute and 30 seconds of this video perfectly captures the Digimon fan experience. It has been a *_rough_* decade imo
Yep exactly.
i seriously love digimon and every one of their games but they definitely aren't for everyone😭if anyone wanted to get into digimon id recommend watching the anime first and foremost
TBH at this point I know I ONLY like World 1 and Redigitize, the others are either generic JRPGs, or experiment with the gamedesign so hard, they are riddled with waaaaay too much bs.
Also the combat in World1 and Redigitize are exactly what I always wanted to combat in pokemon to be
@@onlineskitty watching this video made me really wonder if Pokémon fans really have it all THAT bad when you take a look at Digimon games lol! Only game there that sounded appealing was cyber sleuth
@@animationdude9 honestly yeah. i see pokemon fans complaining about their games and then looking at digimon and going "this is the innovation the franchise needs!!" but honestly that just isnt true. i think pokemon fans need to realize that no matter what GF does there's never really going to be the "perfect game", someone's always gonna be unhappy. i'm just an optimist who happens to like everything. pokemon has it's faults but there are good things about it too, same with digimon.
I think data squad is actually a good entry point for the world games. Easy digivolution mechanics, not a giant power curve, maps are easily laid out, and a decent story if you watch the anime.
At 2:00 When the things are shown, I see a familiar sword. Is it the "meow menar" from Terraria? Love your content!!!
as a digimon fan who’s been wanting to play a digimon game , the feeling of spending days and days researching which one is good to start with is 100% accurate 😭
Start with a v-pet 😂 I feel like it really is one of the best ways to dip your feet
I think an important initial step in the research is if you are looking to have limited party members you keep the whole time like the Digimon World games or if you want pokemon with extra steps (and guns) where you can grab yourself a whole zoo of monsters which Cyber Sleuth and Dusk/Dawn find themselves in.
Cyber Sleuth has given me the closest pokemon experience. I played pkmn since gen 1 and only found Sleuth to be more pkmn than the others. I spent hours getting all the mons due to my pokemon habbit and keep forgetting what to do next. I actually love the game enough that I got both the digital and physical copies for switch.
Try digmon next order I played it with no previous digimon experience and found it quite fun so try that
Cyber Sleuth is something else.
"When it comes to monsters and creatures, I have to admit, I am an edgy bitch" that's it, Jaiden's greatest quote.
She’s training for scribble after dark
Yeah!
I think this might be the only time we’ve gotten to hear Jaiden actually curse in a video, and I’m so proud of her for it.
“OmG jAiDeN sWoRe!!1!1!”
ikr
I Love this game, I've played it at least 2 times legitimately. I totally understand this assessment thought, I feel like I have a pretty good sense of direction, never use repels in pokemon, and do side quests all the time in games that have them, but that isn't for everybody and this game can be seriously bogged down by those factors for someone who doesn't like that sort of thing.
9:00 the mechanicus lol! Love the reference❤⚙️
When i understood the weakness of my flesh...
Little does Jaiden know that reading through endless digivolving charts, getting lost in straight line dungeons and sometimes shit stories IS OUR THERAPY!
Exactly, how much time I have spent making the stats to my mon perfect in world or getting each member to have x scissor in world 2. Both those games had maxed time saved in multiple play throughs
@@CorruptionAura exactly!
Digimon dawn is what got me to learn all of them
What the fuck is wrong with you guys
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I feel the reason it was so difficult to find a game people unanimously liked is because Digimon has a record of changing up the formula with almost every new game. So you'll get people that love the tamagotchi like experience of Digimon World or those that like the traditional JRPG style of Cyber Sleuth. While some variety is nice in a franchise on occasion, the level Digimon has taken it to fans don't know what to expect so there are many folks with strong opinions on what makes a good Digimon game.
Pokemon doesn't change the formula enough while Digimon doesn't have enough consistency to stick. Figures.
That's why it's hard to get in on the fandom, it's hard to find a game as is but the learning curve is even greater. For example she didn't mention digiconvertion and digievolution. Which has many a branching paths. etc
Street Fighter series kinda has a similar problem but to a lesser extent. 2 is a game balanced around extremely powerful tools that check each other (mostly), 3 is all about parry, 4 is dominated by setplay and option selects, 5 is mostly a frame trap game. They’re all 2D fighting games but all feel radically different
@@mollywantshugs5944 Whereas the Digimon games are like if Street Fighter 3 was a turn-based tactics game and 4 was a dating simulator.
I'm out here way in left field clutching my Digimon World Championship, evolving every way that I can, shunned by all around me.
Digimon World 2 was my favorite digimon game as a kid. It's pretty straightforward
Cybersleuth is the fit for what you are looking for. It has a story but it is the most similar to a mainline pokemon game. You 'capture' digimon and you level them, you evolve them, you battle, you grind. It has everything a digimon game should have. It does feel a little bland compared to pokemon games, but it is the best. By bland I mean it seems very mechanical.
As a ginormous Digimon fan, this video was pretty eye opening. She’s right, there is no one perfect Digimon game to jump into. I can only conclude that maybe the reason we love the games stems from our love for the show.
I would honestly say to a pokemon fan that Dusk and Dawn are the most pokemon like of the games.
Definitely pick up and put down type games, similar to how pokemon could end up being a grind fest before exp share was a thing.
However, I'd reccomend the Switch bundle of Cyber Sleuth and Hackers Memory. I'd bought the latter on ps4 because it looked like a 3d Dusk (and was on sale). But the pick up and put down part makes it more palatable than, say, a full blown video game (if saying that even makes sense, they're not a six hour session, more a, couple of hours before work the next day, kinda pace.)
Cyber sleuth takes the DS game and makes a lot of it better. Sure it can get repetitive, but at least it's far less frustrating. Hackers Memory gives new side quest mechanics too.
I watched most of the first run on TV, quite a lot of the second, and some of tamers. Had the clip on digivice with renamon on it in high-school, it went off a few times at almost the worse times haha.
But like, I honestly prefer the games after playing them. I think the translation of the anime was aimed at younger kids and the age demographic never went up.
Tried to watch the ghosts season and couldn't get past three episodes.
Probably why my mother couldn't stand digimon as a whole and always changed the channel xD
I disagree, I love the games and only watched the show after playing them. So many options and so many cool stories... sure it's not as kiddie friendly as pokemon and deciding where to start isn't as easy as picking up ANY game but that's part of the fun to me.
@@zz7073 interesting perspective, what was your first entry then, and do you think that’s the best one?
I grew up with both and honestly, I always thought that Digimon excelled at the show, but was poor with games- and Pokémon was meh in the show but excelled with its games.
Nope, I started with the games and only tolerate the shows because of the games.
The minute she said she was going to avoid the Cyber Sleuths and dive into World game of any kind, I felt nothing but pity.
XD RIP
i remember liking digimon world 3 as a kid
in fact... time for a rom dig
Cyber sleuth, cs hacker's memory, next order, rumble arena 1 and 2 are the only ones worth playing and I say this as a Digimon fan since I was a child.
I guess Survive is ok too if you're into visual novels, although it's a hard sell.
Bandai doesn't seem to know what direction to give Digimon games which is unfortunate. I think Cyber Sleuth was in the right direction imo.
You sound like you have the experience
I only watched a few let's plays of different digimon games and decided to get cyber sleuth without really knowing what kind of game it was
Because I really got to love digimons regardless
For me I’m a Pokémon fan and liked the digimon fusion anime as a kid and everything made sense and I was always on the edge of my seat wanting to see more. The characters are lovely, the story makes sense, and the show stays fresh and not very repetitive.
Such a rollercoaster and funny experience. In my personal opinion the best way to experience Digimon is by watching the original anime series instead of playing a game. In addition, it seems Pokemon is deep within your heart since some comments seem a bit too biased: Seadramon is not a worm is a sea snake (I guess?), digimon can speak as any other weird animal in other franchices lol Would be good to debiase those feelings so you can experience adn embrace the next franchise!
Looking forward to your next rollercoaster :D
If jaiden ever played cyber sleuth, she's gonna have some trouble drawing all the mega form digimons. Their designs get complex af
I really hope so it's such a good game too
She did draw Gaioumon lol
The world design is also a little bland.
Imagine drawing the royal knights💀
She'd probably get bored after the first hour. They both REALLY drag on a lot in large segments. And SO MUCH BACK TRACKING
I like how that specific Digimon game caused her so much pain she went “welp, who needs a G rating anyway” and it became #1 on trending
#5***
This delights me, dusk is my favorite video game of all time, and this is very much the experience! It’s got some flaws! But the music and settings make it worth it for me!
... Wait how did I not notice the Adeptus Mechanicus randomly in there?! LMAO was that always there?!
as a digimon fan, your description of how the fandom seems like it's grasping to hope after being hurt over and over is 100% accurate. I love digimon but instead of having any consistency they rebuild everything from the ground up and I'm convinced kBandai Namco doesn't give a shit about the western side of the fanbase at all
It's the Bandai side of things that's the issue. They're basically Japanese LJN - sometimes they'll put out a great game, but they'd just as happily create three terrible or just painfully mediocre games instead.
Seriously, trying to get into their work is designed to be as confusing as possible to anyone outside of a hardcore fanbase.
Nah don't worry, they don't give a shit about the japanese side either. China has the best exclusive shit but that's the thing, because of chinese legislation they probably don't get a lot of the console games either. (I don't actually know tho I haven't looked into it)
they dont, their bandai
Digimon is like Marvel and DC in terms of how big their Verse is. It. Every verse and version is Canon and their worlds connect in a large multiverse. Every experience isn't meant to be exactly the same and expands a bit more and more.
Bandai Namco makes so many weird decisions that make it seem like they doesn't like money sometimes
For someone who played Digimon Dawn and seeing Jaiden losing her mind over Digimon Dawn, I can totally relate.
Saaaame. Fuck their dungeon design hardcore
Same. My first digimon game after loving the tv series, I kept wondering if it was my fault I was getting so horrendously lost.
I played both Dawn and Dusk. They taught me that Digimon teaches you nothing... ever
@@thompolamar8076 so very true. You just wake up with several baby digimon and its your job to learn how to parent them.
@@Wasabi-rs5lv And the one at your desk yells at you and calls you an idiot often
I watched the show as a kid and loved it. I was considering playing the games for a while. Thanks for forewarning me.
Watching this... third... forth time I think... because I decided to get Cyber Sleuth, mainly because of this video Jaiden, and I can understand what you are trying to do, bridging the gap between both worlds isn't easy, it's easier if you think of it like straightforward evolution (Pokémon), and skill tree evolution (Digimon), all and all, I'm enjoying Cyber Sleuth so far -w-
When I saw the beginning of this video I immediately thought "OH! She should play Cyber Sleuth then!" But then she chose the grindiest, fetch questiest, Digimon game. She didn't even mention the biggest perk of Digimon, which is de-digivolving and going down all the different digivolution paths. That's my favorite part.
That's my favorite part, too. I love the mechanics of digivolution so much. I'm currently playing Next Order on steam, and despite it having some quirks, it's all I've done this week and I'm in love.
I debated playing it bc it’s on the switch lol
I dunno if the game explains that mechanic, but since she didn't watch the shows either (which is the main focus of the series, let's be honest here), not only she doesn't know what a Digimon is, she also doesn't know the main mechanics associated with them, including de-digivolution.
...I feel like Digi-devolution kinda sounds better....
That was majestically explored in Digimon World 5! Such a fantastic hidden gem of a game :)
I mean
She made an attempt
It's the internet's fault it didn't work lol
I like the fact that she turned from a storytime animator to a gamer documenting what they played, and I'm kinda fown for it
I, too, am fown for it.
And it is a bit better than shy-nervous-person storytime.
You sort of need a lot of interesting stories for something like that which are harder to come by when you don't interact with people a ton.
This is a lot more sustainable, stories are on demand.
I love it!!!
what SHE played she is a fucking girl
only so much stories to tell
A year later there's answers....FOR WESTERNERS
Cyber Sleuth for Traditional RPG as in NOT PERSONA
NEXT ORDER(SWITCH) for TAMAGOTCHI without 1's "WHAT AM I DOING?!" Because the SWITCH has the most difficulty options
Y'all are welcome! 😅👍
Digimon World for PS1 is a misunderstood classic and I’ll die on that hill
“When it comes to monsters and creatures, I have to admit, I am an edgy bitch” that’s it, Jaiden’s greatest quote.
She always was until now.
She is I guess
No, she has swore before
Honestly same
@@AgapeYeshua Dude Shut up
Jaiden went through arguably one of the more painful games, start to finish, and came out more of a fan of digimon. Absolute chad.
agreed
I'm concerned that this is "arguably" one of the "more painful" games. How do digimon fans function?
@@FlashStatic It's more painful in how much you have to grind to Digivolve your Digimon. The mechanics are a lot more straightforward when it comes to how to get the Digimon you want (it's all linear evolution trees that you manually choose what you want to get instead of 'Oh, you accidentally let this Digimon's Speed stat get too high, so now when you Digivolve it you'll get something completely different from what you were trying to get'), and the combat is that nice, simple, turn based format.
She probably won't listen to some random dude online but can you please try Earthbound?
Digimon cyber sleuth isn't at all like persona 5... I'm offended
Funny enough Digimon World Dawn was my first Digimon game and I absolutely loved it. But after seeing Jaiden's issues I'm like "oh yeah forgot about those parts". I do hope you play cyber sleuth at some point because that is a good time.
Digimon needs to do a whole breath of the wild style game, I would ADORE running around with agumon fighting for the digital world, no matter what grindy stuff I'd have to do I'd play that game for years
As a brand new fan, I just want to say that animating an entire game review like this is really impressive. The amount of effort YOU AND YOUR TEAM are putting into your content is not going unnoticed.
You don’t know what she can do
bruh, she doesn't do everything by herself obviously
She has a team that helps :)
Imbecile... Give a penny's asss for the animators presented at the end panel... They do all the work she is just the front face
I just gotta love how Jayden learns about the fact that Digimons got back and forth from big to small. It's a normal thing lol
Dude her name is literally the channel how did you spell it wrong
@lily I HATE AUTOCORRECT!
@@haydensfamilytv3397 same its the worst
As a fan of the Megaman battle network series and a childhood digimon fan, this couldn’t have been a better sell of the game lol
As a Digimon fan myself, I can definitely relate.
Digimon games aren't exactly easy to get into compared to Pokemon. And yeah I feel you, the mazes are super frustrating!
But I still love Digimon regardless. IMO, Cyber Sleuth and Hackers Memory are my recommended starting games for newcomers.
It's really interesting how Jaiden's experience shows that digimon is not a videogame franchise. It's a tamagochi franchise that has a lot of anime adaptation, most of them completly independent from each other, and sometimes gets some games, most of them in different genres.
Well the one she is playing is a part of the Digimon story series a long chain of loosely connected games. Typically connected by character cameos or the plots of Yggdrasil/king drasil and are all rpg style games. The World games are traditionally an open world breeder game closer to a console tamagotchi. Then you have rumble games which are the fighting game of the franchise. Then you got survive the first visual novel. Trouble is these games are not like Pokémon and usually can’t be beaten without grinding and planned and raising for certain evolution paths. You will have maxed out Digimon by the end.
Yea
@@kingvire dear god, I watched the first series anime of these games where did it all go wrong this sounds like a dystopian monster
@@loganjoyce5045 when the digital world began expansive lore that isn't in any anime
@@loganjoyce5045 The Digimon Story games are connected.
But yeah, the problem with Digimon games is how it's VERY varied. That being said, that is thankfully being (somewhat) managed now in terms of consistency.
EX: Story games are traditional rpgs, while the current World games (Re:Digitize, Next Order) are related to the original Digimon World.
As for Survive, it was supposed to be a side project.
*Also, the Digimon lore will continue to be insane with or without the Digimon games. Even in the first series, the lore is a lot, especially if you go through the Adventure Light Novel.*
I didn’t expect the 40k reference in a video about digital monsters but I’m glad it’s here
Decided to rewatch this video and I did not notice the tech priest cameo the first time. Fantastic.
Digimon dusk was my first digimon game as a kid and Jesus christ playing that as a kid changed me, the hours I spent playing it trying to finish it I can feel deep within my soul to this very day. I remember being stuck in the Macro sea as well and ended up drawing a map of it when I first played. Lord help us.
I freaking love Lunamon, yo
Yeah, buth dusk/dawn and digimon world ...dats? I believe was the other ds one, have both that really anoying, really dificult wather maze, I remember losing miself while playing it and just doing all other missions just because I didn't want to go there again... wich is a shame because I actually love digimon and like both games a lot T-T
I only played Digimon DS as a kid but had so many fond memories of it that I replayed DS and played throw Dusk and Dawn about a year ago.
And yes, Marco sea was a nightmare the first time, but it was way easier the second time.
What's really funny is that I think she still chose the best Digimon game. Once you get used to the idea that your Digimon can, with the right work, turn into literally any other Digimon...it's fun.
I also played world DS, but I only got to play Dawn. What I loved is that my first born digiscaned was a pagumon and I made him go threw the Demidevimon route I was so hyped to get a Lilithmon but when I evolved to Myotismon I saw that I needed another Lilithmon. So I went backwards to use the impmon route and boy when I made Mummy boy that he was broken, he literally had the highest stats I ever saw in my team and his skills were amazing everything I had in his roster went from high AoE damage, or effects like HP, MP drain or paralyze.
Does anyone else love the fact that Jaiden’s channel is slowly becoming an animated story time gaming channel or is it just me
honestly it’s great. i still love her regular storytime animation content, but i really like this recent direction that her channel’s been taking
yep and it’s fucking phenomenal.
Didn't she get big from her Nuzlocke video? Maybe I'm not remembering correctly 🤔
I like watching gaming videos
@@poopikins nah, she had like 5 million subscribers at least before the nuzlockes. Obviously the nuzlocke videos are massive but if you look at any of her other storytime videos they have like 20-30 million views too which is insanely good
dusk & dawn remains the only staple ♥️ try out the v bracelets, postgame dusk/dawn is purely dedicated to breeding digieggs like Chao garden , etc.
I played digimon world championship a while back, and I remember never EVER having the right guys for the job when the time came around... but I remember grinding that game like crazy and still loving it hahahaha!
As a huge Digimon fan.... Nothing Jaiden said was wrong.
And honestly just seeing her draw mons like Gaiomon was worth it.
I'm not trying to insult you or start a fight, but why are you a fan? Is their some great game hidden in this series, just buried under decent at best game? Was the cartoon that good that it kept people on it for decades? What is it?
@@Enchie im just gonna say it, Digimon learned to evolve with his audience and the time passed more and more mature games came out with their own gameplays, like digimon Regiditalize and cyber sleuth, what we adore about of digimon is the that they take to talk with the audience and evolve with them like they most recen game Digimon survive.
@@Enchie Probably the series.
I enjoyed Digimon world 4, digimon rumble arena 2 and cyber sleuth. FYI... each of those is a completely different type of game.
@@kayletwain4492 Digimon were like actual people if they looked like monsters
@@Enchie She literally said in the video Cybersleuth was a good game and she decided not to play it? Its not a hidden good game its out there
This game only came out in the US and Japan, and not in Europe but I wanted it so desperately. My grandma was going on holiday to the US, so I asked her for one thing- if she could find it at a used games store over there could she get it for me. She found it on the last day, after calling around several stores, and driving all over Florida to find it. That was the best birthday gift ever and I played it for MONTHS SOLID. I loved it. I loved the art style, I loved the story, even the little fetch quests. I got so good at memorizing the maps out of muscle memory. Now that she's no longer with me, I hold this game, box, manual very dear to my heart... partly for the countless hours of joy it gave me, and partly for the effort my grandma went through to get me a copy. It holds a very very special place in my heart...
Super cool memory
Repent to Jesus Christ “Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.”
Colossians 3:2 NIV
@@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3 i'm gay and transgender nice try goodbye
@@catboysforcats2717 awesome response
@@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3 don’t care. You’re not a good person.
9:00 "From the moment i understood the weakness of my flesh"
Remember playing digimon champions on my only ds as a kid and that is what separated the good pet owners and the bad and was also a really fun game
Yeah if you're coming from a Pokemon background I think Cyber Sleuth is a good starting point, it's easy to wrap your head around with a Pokemon mindset. Digimon World Next Order is a good example of what I consider a more "traditional" Digimon game, where the focus is more on raising and bonding with your Digimon and the fighting is kind of secondary, but it's a very specific type of game that if you aren't sure what you're getting into will probably be frustrating until you get the hang of it.
Agree with the Cyber Slueth recommendation. But yeah, there's a lot of story.
as a digimon fan. the whole "fandom that has just been hurt over and over" is all too accurate.
Couldn't agree more
I knew we were constantly being kicked in by Bandai but I never realised how much until I watched this video. Like... we got two amazing games, some cool monster designs and only half of the anime series are good, we are eating GOOD (lies)
Facts I just want a good game on all consoles
@@familyofgames1878 I was gonna say Cyber Sleuth but I forgor that's not on Xbox lol
All I wanted was more Cybersleuth but apparently thats asking for too much
you should have gone with cyber sleuth. i picked it up on steam sale one day and its kinda like a 3d pokemon game with some very interesting mechanics.
This makes me want you to play Spectrobes
Yes, its actually really fun, and the only downside is that if you want to find your perfect team it can be kinda grindy. Though, I enjoy the grind since it feels the same as pokemon grind despite being different.
(It has a minimap)
I remember enjoying those games as a kid, but I don't see them talked about anywhere.
@@danielbernhardt1327 Right? I still have them in my ds bag, they're still super fun.
Only thing is: I don't know how to 100% it
Like, I've beaten the story and after story so many times its ridiculous but I don't think I've ever gotten every fossil and evolved everything, nor do I know where to find what I haven't seen.
I should probably just look it up but I feel like that would be boring
@@xxdagrimreaperxx5803 I didn’t 100% any of them, I looked everywhere on every planet and eventually just stopped and got the next game. I think the last one I played was the one on the Wii.
Possible hot take: it's understandable she tried to get into Digimon via the games because, in the case of Pokemon, people love it because of the games and tolerate the lukewarm anime. It's sadly the other way around with Digimon: we love Digimon because of the anime and tolerate the lukewarm games.
I don't even play or watch pokemon yet I still would rather be forced to play pokemon over digimon any day of the week
@@darianbarber3763 Fair and if i had to watch the first season of one, it'd be digimon.
@@darianbarber3763 pokemon have the better games while digimon is the better show
@@fajarwinmoney Except for Pokemon that's now reversed too, with how... unpolished the recent games were (and because the Pokemon anime actually became really, really good starting with Sun & Moon).
@@fajarwinmoney Digimon anime has a special place in my heart and I love it's uniqueness every season too!(Frontier is amazing, Tamers too, Adventure 1 and 2 is also amazing(that's where my love for Digimon started)
"It seemed like I walked in on a fandom that has just been hurt over and over, and they're really trying to hang on to something and believe in the good of the franchise... but they've just been put through a lot." Excellent summary of the Digimon fandom. We are constantly looking for any scrap of content we can find, but a lot of the games we're given are confusing at best and deeply flawed at worst.
As a Digimon and Sonic fan that comment hit me hard, at least she knows Sonic is like that too.
Incorrect. It’s deeply flawed at best and proof God has abandoned us at worst.
The digimon games are evil….
agreed. For now the most fun I have been having with Digimon is the VB and other vpet stuff. The anime is like the games too, they try some new gimmick and that could be a hit or miss.
That is if we even get them in the first place its gotten so bad we're now fully translating them ourselves
No its not...
I know tamogachi isnt everyone's thing, but thats why me (and most of my friends) love digimon. Digivices (the vital bracelets line especially) are the best ways to experience digimon in my opinion.
The most real thing about being a digimon fan is honestly just enjoying the designs. It's a very cool concept with some of the coolest looking creatures in the genre. But we have just come to accept that there will be no perfect game. Every iteration has some great things about it, but there's always a part of it that'll drag it down. (Usually the confusing/grindy story progression)
I was only exposed through the shows (which are surprisingly great, better than pokemon shows imo), but I got the feeling no one really understands how digimon are supposed to work, and everyone, fans and creators, are just in it for the cool monsters.
At least for the time being, I've seen basically nothing but praise for the TCG. That said, it's still new compared to MTG, Yugioh or Pokemon. So, there's still plenty of time for it to take the same path of power creep that those did.
Out of what I played, Cyber Sleuth is the closest, but it has some growing to do.
Yeah. I'm always going to love Digimon for what it is, but sometimes I do wish it could have a game that isn't rough in some capacity.
cyber sleuth was a great game though
As an actual fan of both franchises, I 100% recommend Cyber Sleuth, even if you're just going to play it for yourself. It's really fun and the story is pretty neat. You're like a digi detective in modern Tokyo and it's kind of noir in a fun way.
Omg I love Cyber Sleuth. It’s honestly great. The story is good but the battles are what really make me love it. They are so immersive and not even that easy all the time. The only thing is, it’s a long ass game… like I am at over 120 hours and just finished the first one. I’m now on Hacker’s memory and already spent hours upon hours on it.
Personally i found it boring pretty quickly
Well she did point out how iy wasn't the channel content. Then again, maybe she can make a seperate video and play that, from what I hear it's really fun.
Was personally put off by Cybersleuth basically SMT with tons of fanservice
@@mariustan9275 She did say it was a great casual playthrough, so there's that.
Recently played again dawn and took me 30 hrs to finish main story, to be honest I spent some time looking for some of my fav digimon Dorumon and Gaomon. So the grind was basically a the start just to get 100% data of armadillomon and goburimon. But have to say, totally worth it. Starting the adventure with your favorite partners make the experience way more satisfying. Also the game is actually very easy to break XD. Just keep creating digimon and DNA evolve your mains to those just created to improve their stats. You can easily get a rookie way stronger than a champion or even ultimate/perfect.
I know that the game NEVER explains anything but as long as you can discover the mechanics and some secret tips, the game is quite easy.
Last boss was easily defeated by my Dorugoramon, MirageGaogamon and Apollomon. I finished the main story as a gold rank tamer even.
Now that I watched this, I legitimately cannot believe that I played this as a kid and loved it LMAO how freaking strong was I to get through all that... And enjoy it... And replay it not once, but multiple times across both Dawn and Dusk... Adult me could never. I would've gone crazy with the mazes and grinding (which despite everything, I do not like the mazes and going back through them in even Cyberslueth where there is a map) It's still a great game though, I feel so nostaglic, I kinda wanna replay dawn and dusk after watching lol
I was like, "She didn't mention cybersleuth, she didn't mention cybersleuth," then she mentioned it and that the community agreed it's good. Then she said it wasn't what she was looking for and a figurative table flipped in my brain
I'm fairly certain that what she was looking for didn't exist. But I mean at least there was some positive to it
I'm not an animator, but I imagine that there are some games that just don't have the type of playthrough that lends itself to Jaiden's style of animated storytelling. Like there's a lot less Pokémon Colloseum content around than a lot of other games that are objectively worse/less loved, and there's probably a reason for that. She did say that she would probably enjoy playing cybersleuth for fun in her free time.
It’s understandable from her perspective. No knowledge of Digimon besides that it’s like Pokemon. She expected a game like Pokemon.
@@Jeshiae Yeah I agree like cyberslueth even if you do the bare minimum is still a big time investment. My first playthrough was like 55ish hours but it was even longer in real time because i decided to do the whole “tactician usb” save scumming because even that would have been shorter than just flat out grinding. Granted if you dont really care too much about what team you take to the end game you can probably cut it down to 30-40 hours because there is just so many cutscenes. But honestly the story and twists including hackers memory I really didnt expect to be so damn good like most games dont have that good of story telling and characters you end up caring about damn sure not a monster collector game. I remember after finishing it my first time I just sat there like…damn pokemon will never come close to this level of story or gameplay/building which is sad i love pokemon but the closest they have gotten to cyberslueth good was arceus which is honestly the direction i wished they continued in.
Saaaaaaame
Jaiden: "I don't know what Digimon is and I hated playing the game."
Also Jaiden: "I think Digimon are cool now."
Yes, that sounds about right.
Gotta love that clickbait, eh?
She thinks that Digimons look good, but she hated that game and still doesn't know what they are
Good franchise, bad game.
Kinda like BDSP.
@@cookie_jar706 No she makes sense, She hated the game, likes the design of some digimons lol
Just started playing Dusk, which is the game from nightcrow's perspective, I like it, I somehow just roamed into all the right spots so that helped. Also, the only thing a digimon fan consumes regularly is the show, the original even got a remake in like 2020 on Crunchyroll.
I know you don't really do show reviews, and I'm 100% sure that people have suggested this to you already, cool to see you review the original anime.
As a Digimon fan, I've never been so offended by a video I 100% agree with. This hurts how true it is.
Im so sorry
I know right? I've been with digimon from the beginning, never stopped loving it...except Xros wars...that annoyed me, and Frontier was..well..Frontier. but the games are usually ok. Dawn was a bad choice to begin though
My condolences, Digimon will someday get a completely good and fun game, everything will be ok bro
@@Catto_Ninja Digimon got a good and fun game already, twice, Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth Complete Edition.
More like 93%. I remember these games, and there is a cutscene after login mountain directing you to the quests.
Jaiden and her team must really be going to their limits, I mean 2 videos a month is absolutely insane. Animation and all that is not an easy job so I’m so impressed and grateful that they’ve somehow managed to pull this off. Keep up the good work you guys. :)
lmaooooo I laughed so hard at this Im a huge Digimon fan but not because of the games. I never played this game so Im not attached to it and this analysis straight out made me roll over laughing my ass off. Do more please I need more of these videos 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Really should have played next order on the PS4. It has the Tamagotchi thing but they made it a lot easier to deal with by increasing the lifespan and giving you more hints on how to overall play the game. It's really fun you should give it a shot if you ever get around to trying a Digimon game again
"Do you know how many layers deep this agony cake goes? You want more?" Is the perfect sentence explaining how the entirety of the digimon fandom is feeling at least 200% of the time.
I really like Cybersleuth, Hacker's Memory because it scratches the specific itch I have, though it probably isn't the best representation of the series "vibe". Finding a game for that in this franchise is really difficult for some reason. That said the old Data Squad game for the ps2 did a good job of making your digimon feel like characters while giving them lots of room for digivolutions so...maybe Data Squad? Maybe? I don't know, I enjoyed it anyway.