Never keen on Giants Live giving too much focus on the record chasing stuff, takes away from the main show. With those jumps after one event we'll have two or three groups of athletes all equal from the split points. Was saying over on Loz's preview that the "three attempts, slightly limited options" idea is a good one. I reckon they should offer the athletes 400, 415, 425, 435, 445, 455... ...495, 505 - it's better for points separation, better for individual athletes looking for PBs, AND for the record chasers it would give them flexibility to ramp up to the big one
I'd say best shot is Graham for 505 and I really hope he does but I don't think it's likely. Luke and Eddie at 400kg, Oleksii and Tom at 425kg, Evan and Trey and Biby at 454kg but no more (Biby maybe not even 1000), then Mitch and Ragg and Andrade could potentially get the 470 but again not likely.
Would love to see you and Alec doing reaction and commentary videos to the craziest and weirdest events in strongman history Murder ball, pole push, wrist rolls And maybe what weird ones you'd want to bring into modern strongman. Another one would be what goes into event selection and event creation as a organizer and maybe as you get more plugged into the organizer scene you could interview Slater or Jan Todd on how they think up events. It'd be cool to hear how the machine runs cause some events are really weird and some are new and awesome! Videos like what is your idea of what strongman is and what you'd want it to ideally be. What SHOULD strongman test. I'd just love videos of you guys breaking down game film of older strongman clips. Maybe also react to 19th and 20th century strength feats of circus strongmen and which ones you think should be included in modern strongman. Same thing with weird stone lifting from different places and history Punjabi stone lifting, basque stone lifting, Indian Clubs, Highland Games, japanese stone lifting etc etc. Basically any weird new stone lifting that Sean Urqhart has unearthed on his Instagram lol Arm lifting and grip and bend stuff too There's such a vast world of strength out there it'd be cool to see too strongmen who are so good at breaking things down to think about how they might be integrated into strongman. Feels like new things haven't been added since the early 2000s so it'd be cool to see you guys discussing different strength feats and sports and how they might fit in
Sadly, I feel Wrecking Ball is here to stay. They’ve invested in making the equipment so want to get as much use as possible, and it’s an event that guys will keep chipping the record on every show. Same as how there was always a Hercules Hold in any GL that Felix was competing in. It’s a nice draw from a promoter’s point of view. I don’t think 505kg will happen (which means the record chasing will persist unless Thor can put it to bed at another show). Hooper will take another 1st place relatively easily. Deadlift should net him good points (or at worst it’s a void event like you said), yoke is his to lose (and cancels out Tom’s likely stone win), he will do well in DB, will hold the WB for as long as he has to, and is decent at stones. Singleton and Tom will probably round out the podium but it’s hard to look past Mitch. He’s doing what Novikov did a few years back before he fell off slightly.
I'm a complete nerd and I train for Strongman and I absolutely love the ball hold (second to the Hercules hold but that's just peak awesome and impossible to beat). Maybe it's because my grip is the only elite thing about me and I like to imagine how I'd stack up but I love all static grip events (I know the ball's not just grip, but general pain tolerance, but so are half the freaking events anyway). And yes, I watch with my girlfriend and try to get friends to watch as well and they all LOVE the ball. it's easy to understand the competitive aspect (why they also have the stones in most shows).
Your take on Williams wasn't far off, just looking at the spreadsheet he really impressed at World's Strongest Man. The guy deserves his Giants lives invite
Seeing Graham´s deadlifts from month-ish back, I thought that he for sure has 485 in him no matter what, and I think "the body" may be good enough for just under 500. 485-494 on the day is what I thought after "sending the raven" into the future, a bit more if great shape and superb execution of monstrously well done hitching take place. I don´t put it past him to be good for close to 500, but I don´t quite see 505 right now. Eddie was monstrous and it flew without issue. It looked like he could do 12kg more "god willing". I really think Graham looks good for 495 ish strengthwise at most, and that ship has been sailing towards the destination at a good, and steady, but insufficient pace to do it "today", I´d say, and, Eddie is just stronger. The last 505 attempt was Very far from completion. He might have had 485 in him, but if it could have happened after the 470, IDK. I think in a perfect would, he had 485-487 in him theoretically, and might be good for close to 500 now, but that is theory, and doing the best lifting you could wish for in the best shape and mindspace. If Graham of today could hitch "even 498" I would feel some extra bowel movements.
Ended before Graham could score a lift. He was definitely a good bit stronger as indicated. Did he get injured, or was it balance only? I think seeing 505 was indeed very rosey, seeing how his lockouts seem to go. It´s a LoooOong Way from 470 to 505. Multiple guys pulling 470, and Rauno had a really good 470 aswell, looked stronger than ever. Mitchell has given a taste on how to pull 505 while under 400lbs. Seeing how Eddie Hall went from 463(?) to 500, Mitchell being capable of a pretty good looking 470 while competing, and being a lifter with good hitching chances, he must be a focused season away, or 2/3 with a less steep build up away from doing it.
@@ThorsHammer88 for max I may agree with you, but look at the 275 for reps Novikov did at the Arnold or his Cyr dumbbell ladders from rogue invitational. I do not believe Mateusz could match those performances.
@@HattonStrengthnovikov destroyed that db for reps and even took a water break in the middle lol his performance that whole weekend was beyond inspiring
I think Graham will pull it. Makarovs lockouts in training are far too soft imo. If I have to predict the podium for the whole show it’ll be 1. Hooper 2. Singleton 3. Iron Biby
With those events, i would put evan over tom, as long he is in shape Evan is better than tom at max deadlift, Evan is also very fast at yoke walk, I think the dumbbell is evan's best over head events and possibly tom's worst over head event
Trey is actially great at wrecking ball hold. At worlds in 22 he did 122 seconds with 230 kg. Only person who beat him across all groups was Mark Felix.
I stillt think Hicks has the highest chance, Makarov a little bit, Rauno no way. My predicted podium for this one, Hooper, Singleton and Stoltman. Though it depends, if Evan makes a mistake and is discouraged he misses the podium and Trey Mitchell is up there. Edit: Also, if you were in this event you might also make it to the podium.
No one will hit 505 simply because none of the guys are willing to do the damage Eddie did to himself. Until Thor (or another freak) wants to break it, it’ll sit at 500
This is why i didn't go to Vegas its the same old giants and its gonna be the same winner hooper kinda gets boring watching same guy win everything people been saying they quit watching strongman because of him not that hes a bad guy its just boring
Great thought out analysis, fast becoming one of my favourite strongman’s
Upvote this for Braden as co host. Down vote this for Alec as co host. 😂😂😂
The only person who's going to break a record is Lucy.
Hell, if the guys don't pick up the pace she may get to the 505 first.
Never keen on Giants Live giving too much focus on the record chasing stuff, takes away from the main show.
With those jumps after one event we'll have two or three groups of athletes all equal from the split points.
Was saying over on Loz's preview that the "three attempts, slightly limited options" idea is a good one.
I reckon they should offer the athletes 400, 415, 425, 435, 445, 455... ...495, 505 - it's better for points separation,
better for individual athletes looking for PBs, AND for the record chasers it would give them flexibility to ramp up to the big one
I love these. Please keep doing them.
I'd say best shot is Graham for 505 and I really hope he does but I don't think it's likely. Luke and Eddie at 400kg, Oleksii and Tom at 425kg, Evan and Trey and Biby at 454kg but no more (Biby maybe not even 1000), then Mitch and Ragg and Andrade could potentially get the 470 but again not likely.
Nobody will there doing same stupid jumps and it hasn't happened before 25 percent chance hixy gets it
Would love to see you and Alec doing reaction and commentary videos to the craziest and weirdest events in strongman history Murder ball, pole push, wrist rolls
And maybe what weird ones you'd want to bring into modern strongman.
Another one would be what goes into event selection and event creation as a organizer and maybe as you get more plugged into the organizer scene you could interview Slater or Jan Todd on how they think up events. It'd be cool to hear how the machine runs cause some events are really weird and some are new and awesome!
Videos like what is your idea of what strongman is and what you'd want it to ideally be.
What SHOULD strongman test. I'd just love videos of you guys breaking down game film of older strongman clips. Maybe also react to 19th and 20th century strength feats of circus strongmen and which ones you think should be included in modern strongman. Same thing with weird stone lifting from different places and history Punjabi stone lifting, basque stone lifting, Indian Clubs, Highland Games, japanese stone lifting etc etc.
Basically any weird new stone lifting that Sean Urqhart has unearthed on his Instagram lol
Arm lifting and grip and bend stuff too
There's such a vast world of strength out there it'd be cool to see too strongmen who are so good at breaking things down to think about how they might be integrated into strongman.
Feels like new things haven't been added since the early 2000s so it'd be cool to see you guys discussing different strength feats and sports and how they might fit in
Sadly, I feel Wrecking Ball is here to stay. They’ve invested in making the equipment so want to get as much use as possible, and it’s an event that guys will keep chipping the record on every show. Same as how there was always a Hercules Hold in any GL that Felix was competing in. It’s a nice draw from a promoter’s point of view.
I don’t think 505kg will happen (which means the record chasing will persist unless Thor can put it to bed at another show).
Hooper will take another 1st place relatively easily. Deadlift should net him good points (or at worst it’s a void event like you said), yoke is his to lose (and cancels out Tom’s likely stone win), he will do well in DB, will hold the WB for as long as he has to, and is decent at stones.
Singleton and Tom will probably round out the podium but it’s hard to look past Mitch. He’s doing what Novikov did a few years back before he fell off slightly.
I'm a complete nerd and I train for Strongman and I absolutely love the ball hold (second to the Hercules hold but that's just peak awesome and impossible to beat). Maybe it's because my grip is the only elite thing about me and I like to imagine how I'd stack up but I love all static grip events (I know the ball's not just grip, but general pain tolerance, but so are half the freaking events anyway).
And yes, I watch with my girlfriend and try to get friends to watch as well and they all LOVE the ball. it's easy to understand the competitive aspect (why they also have the stones in most shows).
Your take on Williams wasn't far off, just looking at the spreadsheet he really impressed at World's Strongest Man. The guy deserves his Giants lives invite
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13:43 This isn't actually the first time Giants Live has been in the US. Giants was at the Mohegan Sun, Connecticut in 2009 🤓
Are you gonna make a recap of the U.S. Open? Ps keep up the good work
@@michaelscaramellino743 Alec is out of town and Braden is moving this week, so I don’t think I’m going to get to it
🦖 needs to show me. I know he can! BUT WILL HE
505 we could see it🧐 Gram has been hiding he could!
Hell yeah!
I would rather see a steeple chase than the wrecking ball hold. 3 300lbs samdbags
3 lifts, choose own weight, 4 th lift for anyone going for WR would be better
I want Rauno just cause it would be crazy for a 40+ to do it, and Lucy might break her record by a solid 10-20lbs
Seeing Graham´s deadlifts from month-ish back, I thought that he for sure has 485 in him no matter what, and I think "the body" may be good enough for just under 500. 485-494 on the day is what I thought after "sending the raven" into the future, a bit more if great shape and superb execution of monstrously well done hitching take place.
I don´t put it past him to be good for close to 500, but I don´t quite see 505 right now. Eddie was monstrous and it flew without issue. It looked like he could do 12kg more "god willing".
I really think Graham looks good for 495 ish strengthwise at most, and that ship has been sailing towards the destination at a good, and steady, but insufficient pace to do it "today", I´d say, and, Eddie is just stronger. The last 505 attempt was Very far from completion. He might have had 485 in him, but if it could have happened after the 470, IDK. I think in a perfect would, he had 485-487 in him theoretically, and might be good for close to 500 now, but that is theory, and doing the best lifting you could wish for in the best shape and mindspace. If Graham of today could hitch "even 498" I would feel some extra bowel movements.
Ended before Graham could score a lift. He was definitely a good bit stronger as indicated. Did he get injured, or was it balance only? I think seeing 505 was indeed very rosey, seeing how his lockouts seem to go. It´s a LoooOong Way from 470 to 505.
Multiple guys pulling 470, and Rauno had a really good 470 aswell, looked stronger than ever. Mitchell has given a taste on how to pull 505 while under 400lbs. Seeing how Eddie Hall went from 463(?) to 500, Mitchell being capable of a pretty good looking 470 while competing, and being a lifter with good hitching chances, he must be a focused season away, or 2/3 with a less steep build up away from doing it.
Mateusz is the best dumbbell presser in history 😊
@@ThorsHammer88 for max I may agree with you, but look at the 275 for reps Novikov did at the Arnold or his Cyr dumbbell ladders from rogue invitational. I do not believe Mateusz could match those performances.
@@HattonStrength I guess we may never find out
@@HattonStrengthnovikov destroyed that db for reps and even took a water break in the middle lol his performance that whole weekend was beyond inspiring
I think Graham will pull it. Makarovs lockouts in training are far too soft imo. If I have to predict the podium for the whole show it’ll be
1. Hooper
2. Singleton
3. Iron Biby
@@PaulFellourisStrongman I need to edit my podium:
1. Hooper
2. Singleton
3. Tom
I flipped my 2 and 3
With those events, i would put evan over tom, as long he is in shape
Evan is better than tom at max deadlift,
Evan is also very fast at yoke walk,
I think the dumbbell is evan's best over head events and possibly tom's worst over head event
I heard Austin will be attempting the 505
Trey is actially great at wrecking ball hold. At worlds in 22 he did 122 seconds with 230 kg. Only person who beat him across all groups was Mark Felix.
@@Mikespower99 interesting how his grip limitations vary from event to event. I stand corrected!
I stillt think Hicks has the highest chance, Makarov a little bit, Rauno no way. My predicted podium for this one, Hooper, Singleton and Stoltman. Though it depends, if Evan makes a mistake and is discouraged he misses the podium and Trey Mitchell is up there. Edit: Also, if you were in this event you might also make it to the podium.
Mitchell will podium if Evan or Tom aren't clean..
No one will hit 505 simply because none of the guys are willing to do the damage Eddie did to himself. Until Thor (or another freak) wants to break it, it’ll sit at 500
Mitch hooper 1st tom 2ed
We'll see 1000lbs, but no 505kg
I'd love to be proven wrong.
No one pulls 505 unfortunately, mitch, evan then tom podium tom will drop points on the wrecking ball
This is why i didn't go to Vegas its the same old giants and its gonna be the same winner hooper kinda gets boring watching same guy win everything people been saying they quit watching strongman because of him not that hes a bad guy its just boring