Ok so after a couple day of Reeeeeeee comments I’ll chime in. For starters, the customer said that the gauge intermittently works then quits. No! I won’t do this job without pulling the intake. I’m not risking straining or cutting my hands up, so I can charge 25% of the book time to do the work. I have to take care of my hands, they feed my family. If I strain a metacarpal or get cut I can’t earn. I didn’t decide to circumvent the process to “pay less” for a repair because google said so. I don’t own that. Others people’s decisions are not my problem.
While I agree with your logic, 2.6 hr's book time is a RIP. This job can be donen under an hour and that is with removing and reinstalling the intake and all the other goodies that have to be removed.
Yeah the rate is the rate. I’d take the short cut and charge the full time. The rate accounts for hand tools yet we(I’m a tech too) use some power tools like that electric ratchet to get it done faster. We bought the tools that made it faster but weren’t necessary for completion. We learn the tricks. We reap the rewards. I cut my hands every day and I charge for blood. I say reeeeee to the haters though because nobody will tell me how to do my job. At least not successfully. If you are a customer don’t get butt hurt about it, you get your vehicle back faster. And all you want is to get back on the road right???
I diagnosed my engine light with a 8 mm drill bit, had a Chevrolet dealership work on my truck, 60 miles later the light came back on. Then I'm told the light could mean 100s of different issues, well give yrs ago I drilled that dumb light out, truck still runs fine......
Remember in the 90s chevy put the fuel pressure regulator under the intake plenum lol, on the side of the worse fuel injection sender ever made and then made it stick up through the plenum with a gasket that barely sealed right under the best conditions. They do things weird sometimes but I wouldn't trade the old hunk of junk for anything.
No, you're correct, you don't "have to" , But that is the procedure a technician like myself or Ray HAS to follow in order to get properly paid for the job....
I'd have to say I've been pretty hooked on watching all your videos. The fact that you go through the care and process of ensuring crap doesn't get into the engine is great. Shows a great mechanic. I've experienced and seen way too many mechanics that just say "ehh, you should clean your vehicle more often. I don't get paid to clean your engine." . Keep doing what your doing. I only wish that I lived where you are cause I'd take every one of my vehicles that need work to you rather than trying to save money and do it myself due to incompetent mechanics around me. Screwed the haters. Do the job right or don't do it at all. Too many mechanics looking to cut corners to make extra money.
What kind of technician just accepts a part and says "ok, i'll take your money and install your crap when I doubt it'll work?" Everyone thinks they know about cars. I encounter this every day. Part of being a responsible and professional technician is saving your customer money over time. It pays in dividends as a professional, you don't need to milk your customer's ignorance for $100. What a morally deficient professional in my opinion. This guy that made the video basically at the end says, "ha. it wasn't my fault and it didn't work. This is why you don't try and diagnose your own car." Who's he talking to? Not the customer that needs his help! Some imaginary audience in his head that he'll never meet, the comments section on youtube. What a stain on my profession. I would discuss this with my customer and educate him or her and I always find the limit on how much they want to understand car wise, that doesn't take long when you start talking about how stuff works and their eyes roll in the back of their head. But a vehicle is the second largest investment most people ever make. And it takes more service than many people understand to make it last and to take care of that investment. A professional provides service with that point in mind, always. I just have one question. This "mechanic" was willing to spend the extra hour to pull someone's intake when it wasn't even necessary -- why in the world wasn't he willing to spend five minutes with a multimeter to avoid it all and make an immediate impression on his customer and lock that customer in for life? He would only have to give up this one time of stealing a quick and easy job and he would have EARNED a customer's respect for decades.
@@JohnDoe-lt9sg I appreciate how you feel here . But we are now in a world of buying our own devises for $50 to diagnose your own car and many how to TH-cam videos. So this customer felt he could save himself the diagnose charge . He will learn now why you technicians spend the time at school and courses then become apprentices and dealerships and independent garages spending 10s of thousands of dollars on diagnostic gadgets and databases. I too in the 80s before all this computer stuff thought I was able to twist wrenches but slowly learned the above, I didn't know shit and it was costing me more money and grief . Then you got to understand dealerships! As a customer you will never see or know who the technician was, nor would the technician know or see the customer. This guy just doing what he was told to do by a supervisor in a office who often hides in a closet so he can't be found . For this reason I only use independent shops who have the equipment and experienced techs that I speak with. Never ever tell them how to fix, just what is wrong and just open my wallet and hope for the best , never say do it as cheap as you can either. Works well for me anyways. And for the Love of Gawd I stay away from lube places. My mechanic finds and fixes any issues while he changes my oil.
@@epstein_isnt_dead7726 he did the right thing in that moment. put down the wrench and step away from the vehicle. and for the love of humanity never hire anybody to do anything for you ever.
I love the fact that Ray has proven the level of mechanical professionalism that he is. I would hope that other mechanics could aspire to his level of decency and talent.
My shop & me is pretty darn professional too except when we throw really heavy broken parts and our freshly broken tools at pictures of Biden and Pig Vomit Pelosi it gets a bit thick then...
Thank you for showing how real life works in the customer service field. You want to diagnose and tell me to replace something and pay for it, fine. There you go sir, did it, pay me and be on your way.
Yep. Honestly, we've all been screwed by shops before. I once dropped a 1990 1500 4.3L at a shop and told them "I'm 99% sure it's the fuel pump or fuel filter related". They said they would do a diagnostic and go from there. 2 days later they told me it was a faulty distributor and that I was good to go. I picked up the truck and broke down 100 miles away heading home for time off. They had to come tow it back and fix it. And GUESS WHAT? Fuel pump. Moral of the story: some customers just want the shop to do what they say, therefore the shop cannot screw up. All screw ups are on the customer then, so no bad blood. Customers, just like techs, are not made equal. Some know a thing or 2 and some can barely walk and chew gum simultaneously. Each customer has their own reasons for instructing the shop do as they desire. Customers should be advised on proper procedure initially, but if they insist, the shop should usually do it their way. Have them sign a waiver if need be, but even if you feel the customer is making a bad choice, what they say should never be ignored (like mine was).
If you've got the know know how to diagnose it then maybe you should fix it rather than trying to tell guy who been doing mechanics for 20 years whats wrong lmao
I do a lot of DIY automotive stuff. When I take my vehicles in to be repaired, it’s to be diagnosed by someone that ACTUALLY knows what their doing! Poor guy, but he brought it on himself.
Usually if I'm taking my vehicle into the shop it's because it's beyond my knowledge and expertise..... I may have an idea of what it is, but I'll let them check so they know it's repaired right...... I don't like having it in the shop multiple times because I told them something wrong
I do that also. If it's beyond my basic knowledge I take to a shop and have them run the diagnosis, pay the $50-$100 but now I know the problem and can fix it myself.
@@ahmadghosheh3104 sometimes I can, sometimes I can't, but yeah I do a buildup to attempt to diagnose it..... if I can fix it myself I do, but if I see it's beyond my knowledge it goes in..... but I rarely ever have it in the shop
I’m an engineer and it bugs me when I see infuriating engineering like making the oil pressure sender so inaccessible. I understand there are a lot of parts in the engine bay and they all have to go… somewhere. However I believe there could have been a little more thought given to making the oil sender more easily repairable, seeing as it is not unheard of for sensors to fail. I have a Tacoma 2TR-FE engine with 4WD, and needed to replace the A/C compressor which is in a pretty cramped location. I was wondering how I was going to unbolt the compressor, then I noticed that Toyota had placed holes in the frame rail to give access from the wheel well with a socket extension through the frame. There is an example where the engineers did a little something to make life just bit easier for someone fixing the product down the road.
@@Corvette.Ronnie I agree. Toyota/Lexus can be accused of moving technologically at a snail’s at times but Toyota generally makes a pretty solid product. I’m a one-person sample, but I am impressed byToyota’s customer support. I received a letter from Toyota in 2016 regarding excessive frame rust on my ‘05 Tacoma. Indeed, the Tacoma’s frame was a rusty disaster, truly awful. Toyota decided to replace the entire frame, leaf springs, bake lines and fuel lines on my truck even though it was 11 years old with about 120,000 miles of use. It took two service technicians two days to do the repair. Toyota apparently figured out the rust issue because the replacement frame is now five years old snd still looks great. What a turn-around. I was about ready in 2016 to dump my Tacoma on Craig’s List to get rid of it before it fell apart.
There was a lot of thought put into it, Its so you bring ur car to the shop to fix aka dealer lol. If you think this game is not rigged against u, u are naive my friend. There are a lot of simple things that could be done, and im sure an engineer will say but there were prob some unforeseen issues by u in recommending they should have done this instead of that. If this game was not rigged against u, then it would be more accessible software and such for repair urself. There is a reason that other manufactures of code scanner / diagnostic computers usually do not compare to car manufacture diagnostic computers, atl east they are behind the curve for a bit. That is why owners of john deer and all these other manufactures are bringing them to court for right to repair. Being forced to bring them into those dealer shops, for the simplest of fixes. On the other hand, i will say a lot of thought went into my bmw by the engineers, at how easy a lot of stuff is to do, not everything but somethings that take u hours on most other cars i can do in under 30 min.
@@wtmayhew We bought a new Chevy Silverado back in 2000 and it was our last GM. Every fluid carrying vessel made of steal was rusted out by the time it was 11 years old. That truck was nothing but a hobby. I'll stick with Toyota or Nissan trucks from now on. Much easier to work on.......when you do have to work on them.
I agree completely. I remember the days when the oil pressure sending unit stuck out of the engine above the oil pan. you could change is as easily as changing the oil.
I watch your videos all the time! I want to thank you. I'm seventy two years old and used to do all my mechanic work. The reason I watch you I learn things to keep from getting ripped off by crooked shops. I took my Lincoln towncar to get serviced at a drive thru oil change shop. The guy in the pit yelled up me, informing me I needed my CV joints to be replaced. It so happened they also had mechanic shop . After I quit laughing I asked him to see if my engine was sitting sideways under the hood, he said no it wasn't. I instructed him I wasn't a dumbass. I said son this is a rear wheel drive car and it doesn't have CV joints. I said the next time you try to screw someone, know what you're talking about and get your ass from out from under my car! I wish your shop was in Jacksonville Florida, I would be your customer, for sure! Thanks for the great videos!
I can't stand chops and try and take advantage of older people or anybody in general and I've I've quit jobs because the shops wanted me to do that and I'd say see you later bye hate to be that way but man I can't stand behind somebody's ripping people off have a good day
Always amazes (enrages?) me when I see how many different ways there are to lock an electrical connector in place! These injectors are way more difficult than they need to be, but at least they are accessible. So many connectors that are more difficult to reach, release the secondary lock, release primary lock tab, one small gravel stone in the wrong place really can screw up a guy's day!
@@drkastenbrot No doubt, assembly is simple, the disassembly after the vehicle has been in service for awhile is where the problems are, but that's not a consideration. Make one style universal locking connector, save $$$ on engineering, r&d, and manufacturing all these different styles, move on to bigger and better things. Sorry for the rant, figuring out how to access ,clean and unlock/disconnect components has caused me a lot of grief over the years ✌✌
@@Schmitty71 issue is some comnecrors are special for fitment or for sizing. Gm connectors are all fairly the same. VW likes to use many different styles. Computers on most cats use a cam style lock due to what they are, high amp connectors use certain style, and many others use different styling connectors to help with identifying reconnecting things.
That must have been sometime in the 1960’s! Starting in the 70’s they were covered with so many vacuum lines and other hoses you could barely find the wing nut on the air filter.
I enjoy your videos--- I spent my whole working life "on the tools" eventually specialising in diagnostics and transmission repair. Now I'm retired and I miss working and the background noise and your working environment evokes pleasant memories--- I also miss the sense of purpose and stimulation work gave me. Treasure your time and enjoy what you do in a demanding and difficult trade. Regards and respect from Scotland!
I wish we had gloves like that back in the 1980's/90's when I worked as a heavy equipment diesel mechanic. I used to 'wash' my hands with hydraulic fluid to get the imbibed dirt and grease out.
Ray, I’ve been watching many of your videos. I like the great detail you take in the care you take and ALWAYS trying to do the best for the customer. Some costumers are true Butt heard and others some just can not afford the expensive of some repair. I only wish I could find a Mechanic as good as you are in my area. Thank you RAY for being an outstanding Mechanic
Perfectly understandable. It was just a method on those guys I learned about and worked out for me pretty well. I do enjoy watching to see all the similar situations that occur in your shop compared to mine. Like the 5.4 3valve. We won’t touch em. Thanks for the entertaining and informative videos.
I think you are wonderful for not allowing a customers bad choices affect how you do your job. You still took care of that engine above and beyond what you had to. WTG Ray 👍😊
You are not in a bad spot. He said replace the oil sensor.. and that's what you did. I suspect he didn't want to pay for the diagnostic test? Well, now he will have to and also pay for the work you already did plus the real repair. Excellent job by you as always.
Ray, I've watched several of your videos so far, and you seem very knowledgeable and methodical. Well done. I've unfortunately grown suspicious of some service techs after a few botched diagnoses that I ended up fixing myself. Best one was the tech who figured that the reason the power mirrors weren't working was because the body control module was bad, and he couldn't identify the correct fuse for the power mirrors after I found the fuse was blown. After I got the Helm subscription to get the service manuals, found out he was full of it. The body control module didn't control the power mirrors at all! I had it narrowed down in 20 minutes: A bad mirror switch, $20. Cracked open the old switch, a contact had broken off and short circuited the traces on the circuit board, causing the fuse to blow. So glad I didn't pay them the $1500 to replace the perfectly good BCM.
And personally the sad part is they don't care it's on you or dime they get to learn something and if you go back if they make good on it you're lucky the thing that gets me I've end up in my driveway doing the same thing and been hundreds to have them play around and it ended up coming with me 20 30 bucks in a little bit of time to take a good look and think about it it ain't rocket science but it ain't easy have a good day guys
Ah, I detected a slight hint of sarcasm at the beginning, this was almost like a Portent of doom of what was to follow!😂, I like that. Good channel!. Love it.
@@BarryE48 Only reason I bought a set of torque wrenches to work on my stuff is because I don't have said feel, but seeing as I though it a good idea to buy a German car, it won't be long until I do :P
Back in the days that Classic Rock was written a oil sending unit change on a Chevy was a 10 minute job even for a shade tree mechanic. They should make the engineers work on what they design. Great videos,, thanks👍
@FlaBeardedOne Most of the engineers today at GM are "die-versity" hires and only have the job because they are a protected minority, not because they deserve the position.
Yeah...and you're also the guy who thinks all seats in a football stadium should be in the front row on the 50-yard line...you've never worked a design problem in your life, have no idea all of the dynamics involved in the design, but you're a self-proclaimed Internet expert...
@@buckhorncortez Some people aren't qualified or have the actual ability to be an engineer but they are hired anyway and these kind of idiotic issues are the result, it's DIEversity hires.
They did work on the design, it's as difficult as possible without pulling the engine and the tranny... 🤣 Gotta make them dollariedoos to feed them CEO folk their gold leaf cake... 🙄
I usually sneak the mid length oil pressure sensor socket with a universal and 6 inch extension to the back, never have removed the intake for an oil pressure sensor but I do believe that's the proper procedure.
@@fredted1611 nah, you shortcut everything when its flat rate. He either doesn't know the trick or he actually does things by the book, which is kinda weird😳
rutroh! My ss is having an oil pressure issue so its going to texas to get looked at by some good ppl. my area kinda sucks for fixing stuff up but on the bright side im pretty sure ill get a professional tune and i get to roadtrip outta the house after being trapped in here for two months lol. thanks for this. made me feel better when i said to myself ill just let these guys do their job and not think i can just google fix the issue. Big respect.
I've pulled an intake manifold on a 5.3 - compressed air never crossed my mind. I used the shopvac. Also, that wiring loom he was fighting with when pulling the manifold - I used a bungee to pull it out of the way.
Yeah that was a fail. "I don't want to get debris down in the cylinders"... Proceeds to blow junk in there. The rags aren't stuffed in tight enough to do the job either.
Ray.. I love your videos and would bring anything I own to you if I wasn't three states away, but every now and then it seems like a nice shop vac would be of great service to you.
Works the other way round too. Bought a car s/h from a main dealer here in the UK some 20 years ago. It was clear the auto-adjuster in the clutch cable was slipping so I asked them to deal with it under warranty. It came back with a new clutch fitted but still with the old cable and problem. Ended up fitting a new cable myself and found out it had to be fitted with the auto-adjuster oriented a particular way for it to work properly.
I wonder if that's the problem with my Saab 900 clutch cable. The old one failed but the new one just slips. I gave up on it for now. I've read you have to tug on it just right to get it "set". As soon as I find out what "just right" is, I might try again. 😂
@@aboyd1988 The '306 adjuster was square in section and sat horizontally on a crossmember (UK so RHD with clutch on the left). Can't remember how I found out or if there were any markings - this was >20 years ago now - but I do remember it would only slip if rotated 90° either way from an orientation that worked. It may have been by playing with it off the car. Didn't slip every time BTW.
I love this one! Do it exactly how they want it, then throw it in back his face and watch him change his demeanor. I can't stand that shit! Everytime I get told to change a part because someone else gets to troubleshoot it without getting dirty it just passes me off!
I’m glad to see there are more great mechanics then shady ones. One shop that I dealt with said that I needed a transmission rebuild. I wanted a second opinion. Turned out is was a disconnected sensor wire. Fix cost me a handshake and a thank you.
I'm still having trouble with having to remove a cover just to SEE the engine!! My 2010 van just told me that I needed an oil change, that I must CONTACT A DEALER, AND set the MIL! I like simple much better.
My daughter does that all the time. It amazes me how I wasted all that time getting a medical degree when I had her coming along. I should have just waited since she knows more than everyone.
I recently replaced the sender on my 2009 Yukon Denali which by default has the 6.2L engine. I have four comments relating to my experience. 1st, the sender part number changed with the 2009 model year to NOT include the screen. There was no screen inside the sender mounting column. I have no information as to other years and engine sizes. 2nd, I attempted to use the shorter method but ran into a roadblock when I could not fully seat the special socket or a standard 27mm socket on the sender. The upper portion of the socket hit the hard plastic sound barrier which is bolted to the rear of the intake manifold. Generally, the clearances were a lot narrower between the manifold and firewall compared to other vehicles so the successful completion of the reach-around procedure depends on the GM model and engine size. You have to remove several of the same hoses and connections anyway. 3rd, I found that you indeed have to reset the ECM codes before the gauge starts to work. Once the ECM detects the 5 volt reference being returned from the sender (which is equal to a pressure of over 200 PSI) the ECM tells the gauge via the CAN bus to indicate 0 PSI. It stays that way until the code is reset even over drive cycles. I found this in the live data. The failure in the sender appears to be a blown internal gasket which allows oil to get into the electrical portion of the sender causing a short between the 5 volt reference signal and the sender return line to the ECM (high voltage DTC code). The other code is just a red herring IMHO. And 4th, I recommend that you replace the intake manifold gaskets (about $27) as the old ones were distorted and compressed. They easily snap into place on the bottom of the manifold.
i mentioned that the gauge might not work if you dont reset codes. ran across this on a chevy. Same truck. you have to put the display on factory display on gauges if you want to reset the TPMS locations. weird huh?
Ok, those injector clips look like a dream compared to when I removed the intake off my ‘03 style 5.3 ones that it’s a miracle if you don’t drop, lose or break. 😂
I seen a friend try that too, he broke the top off installing the new one, the store did not have another one in stock and it was dark by then so he decided to just go home and deal with it in the morning, started his engine and oil shot all over the back of the engine bay. What a mess.
This mess reminds me of a time years ago working on a piece of equipment in a factory, spent hours removing things that almost NEVER go bad unless there is physical damage to replace a small sensor that requires replacement on average a couple times a year.
My attempts at googling issues and solving problems has been pretty spot on. Granted none of them were as serious as this issue, but my results have been nearly perfect so far. I also don't work on vehicles a lot.
wow--most would tape the valve holes, vacuum first, and THEN use a blow gun. Lots of "junk" getting blown into the air after he replaced the sending unit
When race car engine builders build their motors, I hear they do it in a "clean room." I think this means people come in with dirty old shop rags and shake them about, and use air guns to blow dust off of things, and clean things in there, since it's a nice quite place to clean things.
Great to watch someone do this crap. Makes me glad to have taken up a new occupation - Retirement. No more stress with the complexity of modern engines, AND NOT having to deal with dumbass customers. ( The latter being the most enjoyable )
Great the way you do you're own torque click 😀, love the biggie smalls tunes & also liked watching you're other channel the episode we're you do your water filtration you've sorted yourself.learning a lot from you as I only work on moto x & trial bikes etc.
What is scary is that I have watched several videos where : the injector harness had the connectors close to EACH OTHER and they were MIXED , DITTO on coils and they MIXED up the connectors on the PHASERS on a VVT system . Most of these were a disaster with numerous parts and a computer replaced and the customer told " the car can't be fixed " . What's wrong with it : " I don't know " . Anytime things are MOLESTED , it's OPEN SEASON ! Looks like you are focused and on point with the job . Unfortunately , there are too many hacks that cause issues .
Ford 5.4 in the e350 vans have 2 cool wires coming out of the loom but going to the wrong coils. They criss cross each other. One has a factory label, if you are lucky. Got to look up the color codes or remember the criss cross.
This is exactly why I told my wife No new cars they are all Junk. Speaking as a Retired Mechanic. So I bought her a restored 1966 Mustang Fast back and what do you know she Loves that Car. 🤟🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Yeah I really think I picked the wrong profession. My hands are small, they're just big because I did a lot of grip strength training as a kid. So for me getting stuff out of the way is a necessity.
Google mechanic eh!😂 This should be fun. Based on what you have to take off and put back on the labor is going to be a heck of a lot more than the part and he's still going to have zero oil pressure.
Ray you should have another channel at your own personal shop. Explaining how parts work like purge valve,injectors etc. , by showing the actual part and maybe like a drawing board . That would be very informative and entertaining✌🇺🇸
I've never in my life seen someone pull the intake to do this job. I've done it at least 4 times. To be fair, there are a lot of variations on the chevy v8s, many have a lot more plastic back there like my dad's suburban and doing the reach around is much more difficult than the others. It's imperative to let the engine cool down but a 3" extension and the sending unit socket you just feel back there and slip it over it and then put your ratchet on there and break it loose. then thread it out by hand. Never ever seen someone pull a manifold, we only charge 1 hour for the diagnosis and repair of this whole job. What is this guy charging 3 or 4 hours? Ridiculous.
I thought it didn't make sense to remove the intake for an oil pressure sending unit. I've done a lot of my own work and one time I needed to replace a $40 part and the dealer wanted $1,200 to replace it. I did it myself and didn't do it by their book. The book said dismantle car and then replace part.
I was 🤔 the same thing did mine like last week and I just reached back yes it was a bitch but the way he did it hell nah lol and the filter thing it didn't fit in mine either weird but I did mine in my yard
Pssst. Hey you. Come here. look here. 32:14 Google was right. The gauge is up. If google was wrong, why oh, why did he not give us a shot at the still nonworking gauge?
@@vilefly Yes exactly. I want to see the cluster with the engine on, raised RPMs, no engine light (after clearing the codes) and the oil pressure gauge clearly visible. He didn't get that shot for a reason.
@@vilefly Psst. Ray stated that the customer said the gauge was intermittent. Instead of letting Ray perform a full diagnosis, the customer said to just replace the sender. Just because you saw it function once in the video does not mean it is repaired. He followed the customer’s request.
@@MagnumOpusSRT Well, we can debate this all day long, but my experience with this particular situation in my shop tends to steer me here. The first diagnostic step would tend to be to replace the sensor anyways, due to the difficult location. Getting an oil pressure gauge in there and back out is a 1.5hr nightmare that doesn't cover intermittent faults. That part WILL scald your hands.
Difficult, nasty and dirty work required great diagnostic and mechanical skills made more difficult by customers who cannot be blamed for having enough cash to keep their ICE vehicles running. Then there’s the politics of dealing with the customers who have little appreciation for the difficulties a mechanic faces; a situation clarified by your videos done with a levity that keeps amazing me. Thanks.
Hi there. I enjoy your humor and always learn something. Thank you! Better watch that music playing in the background brother. That will get your stuff pulled for copyright laws. Take care and happy new year.
Whoever was on the impact needs to be in one of your videos Ray. He was right on the rhythm during Ice Ice Baby. Talk about stop collaborate and listen.
They're engineering vehicles like that on purpose. Making it harder to fix trying trying to promote buying new vehicles... GM and most other car companies are crooks
Great video , I was about to comment. But saw your ending and staring Diag is where it’s at. Customers and google 😂. Yes do the job right take off the intake it’s the right way and take care of yourself. Don’t listen to the Keyboard/weekend Warriors talk 😂!!
Great video, I have changed these without taking off the intake. It's not easy but easier than taking off the intake. Before putting it all back together, I would have checked the new sensor with my scan tool and a blow nozzle. Just because its new, doesn't mean it works. Especially if the part came from advanced auto.
That comment about Advanced auto hit me hard, got bit by one of their defective products. Worst thing is they wouldn’t warranty it! 😡 Never bought anything from them again.
Hi Rainman, wow it always amazes me the seemingly unstoppable desire for designers to drive mechanics crazy. Note; changed the oil sender on my 70' Chevelle 350 in about 4:00 min.
Everything goes through the first design department. When this is complete, they send it to the redesign department where they compete to redraw all the components from the original drawings into impossible to work on positions.
My son has a 68 Chevelle with a 327 motor I gave him the motor for when he graduated high school you're right about the time it's right all the way in the back right behind the distributor thank you have a good night enjoy that car I love them
Not using customer parts is a bad thing. Right to repair, look it up. Repair places are swindling people out of money for the same parts they could get from a direct supplier of the same exact quality part. It should be illegal to force customers to use the same parts they could get on Rock Auto, Summit, Jegs, etc., for 200% markup.
@@JosephArata No one is forcing anything. If a customer doesn't like the shop's policies, he can go elsewhere. You can argue about the wisdom of a given policy, but no one's rights are being taken.
@@JosephArata No reputable shop will install customer parts. The issue is warranty. Suppose you bring your own water pump to me to install on your car. Three weeks later, the cheap POS pump you bought at PepZone is leaking. If its the pump, I'm going to charge you to remove it, send you off to get another one, and I'm going to charge you to reinstall it. Am I ripping you off? Nope, I didn't sell you a defective part. If I screwed up the gasket on install, now it IS my fault, and have to redo the job for free.
@@JosephArata Using customer parts has nothing to do with right to repair. Professional shops take pride in knowing what parts to use and which ones to avoid to give the customer the best value. It's a buy once, cry once balance we do everyday in an ever changing market. This video shows a very unprofessional job from the moment the customer walked in the door until the vehicle was pulled out.
All these newer vehicles have those Jesus clips and parts! You know, those little clips that fly off and disappear in your shop and you say "Jesus where did that go?" And then the parts left over when done and ask yourself "Jesus where do you go?". So much to tear off just to get to that sending unit! Completely to many hoses and wires compared to say a 350 Chevy of 1972! Great videos!
I think the gunk that you talked about was preventing the screen from seating in its proper position.That also explains the intermittent gauge behavior.
The sad thing about this is that most shops roll the diagnostic fee into the repair (if you opt to do the repair). If that's what your shop does, he would have effectively paid nothing for a proper diagnosis.
The new filter did not fit because the old filter was not removed. The old filter was plugged by sludge. It is going to be painful to do the job again for free. The new filter ended up in the garbage, just clean the old one with break cleaner.
Ok so after a couple day of Reeeeeeee comments I’ll chime in. For starters, the customer said that the gauge intermittently works then quits. No! I won’t do this job without pulling the intake. I’m not risking straining or cutting my hands up, so I can charge 25% of the book time to do the work. I have to take care of my hands, they feed my family. If I strain a metacarpal or get cut I can’t earn. I didn’t decide to circumvent the process to “pay less” for a repair because google said so. I don’t own that. Others people’s decisions are not my problem.
I agree with you Ray..
While I agree with your logic, 2.6 hr's book time is a RIP. This job can be donen under an hour and that is with removing and reinstalling the intake and all the other goodies that have to be removed.
15 min job max just learn to use tools better lmao 🤣
Yeah the rate is the rate. I’d take the short cut and charge the full time. The rate accounts for hand tools yet we(I’m a tech too) use some power tools like that electric ratchet to get it done faster. We bought the tools that made it faster but weren’t necessary for completion. We learn the tricks. We reap the rewards. I cut my hands every day and I charge for blood. I say reeeeee to the haters though because nobody will tell me how to do my job. At least not successfully. If you are a customer don’t get butt hurt about it, you get your vehicle back faster. And all you want is to get back on the road right???
If you gonna do a job, do it right.. so im 100% with u
I diagnosed my own check engine light earlier today. Turns out I have "Internet Connectivity Issues."
Thanks Andy Dwyer!
Lol, that's funny.
I diagnosed my engine light with a 8 mm drill bit, had a Chevrolet dealership work on my truck, 60 miles later the light came back on. Then I'm told the light could mean 100s of different issues, well give yrs ago I drilled that dumb light out, truck still runs fine......
🤣🤣🤣
That's some well thought out engineering having to remove the intake manifold to change an oil pressure sender.
Remember in the 90s chevy put the fuel pressure regulator under the intake plenum lol, on the side of the worse fuel injection sender ever made and then made it stick up through the plenum with a gasket that barely sealed right under the best conditions. They do things weird sometimes but I wouldn't trade the old hunk of junk for anything.
That's. GM engineers being dollar driven by upper management
You don’t HAVE to remove it
I mean you don't have to remove the intake to do it
No, you're correct, you don't "have to" , But that is the procedure a technician like myself or Ray HAS to follow in order to get properly paid for the job....
I'd have to say I've been pretty hooked on watching all your videos. The fact that you go through the care and process of ensuring crap doesn't get into the engine is great. Shows a great mechanic. I've experienced and seen way too many mechanics that just say "ehh, you should clean your vehicle more often. I don't get paid to clean your engine." . Keep doing what your doing. I only wish that I lived where you are cause I'd take every one of my vehicles that need work to you rather than trying to save money and do it myself due to incompetent mechanics around me. Screwed the haters. Do the job right or don't do it at all. Too many mechanics looking to cut corners to make extra money.
You want to live in Florida! Shake your head, buddy !
I prefer to use a good shop vac instead of blowing the crap all over the place & possibly in the combustion chamber 🧹🧹
The customer is always right. Except when they're not.
What kind of technician just accepts a part and says "ok, i'll take your money and install your crap when I doubt it'll work?" Everyone thinks they know about cars. I encounter this every day. Part of being a responsible and professional technician is saving your customer money over time. It pays in dividends as a professional, you don't need to milk your customer's ignorance for $100. What a morally deficient professional in my opinion. This guy that made the video basically at the end says, "ha. it wasn't my fault and it didn't work. This is why you don't try and diagnose your own car." Who's he talking to? Not the customer that needs his help! Some imaginary audience in his head that he'll never meet, the comments section on youtube. What a stain on my profession. I would discuss this with my customer and educate him or her and I always find the limit on how much they want to understand car wise, that doesn't take long when you start talking about how stuff works and their eyes roll in the back of their head. But a vehicle is the second largest investment most people ever make. And it takes more service than many people understand to make it last and to take care of that investment. A professional provides service with that point in mind, always. I just have one question. This "mechanic" was willing to spend the extra hour to pull someone's intake when it wasn't even necessary -- why in the world wasn't he willing to spend five minutes with a multimeter to avoid it all and make an immediate impression on his customer and lock that customer in for life? He would only have to give up this one time of stealing a quick and easy job and he would have EARNED a customer's respect for decades.
when they're not right it means you are scamming them😆
@@JohnDoe-lt9sg He worked at a stealership for too long.
@@JohnDoe-lt9sg You are so full of it! If the customer says "this is what it needs," are you gonna stand there and argue with him about it?
@@JohnDoe-lt9sg I appreciate how you feel here . But we are now in a world of buying our own devises for $50 to diagnose your own car and many how to TH-cam videos. So this customer felt he could save himself the diagnose charge . He will learn now why you technicians spend the time at school and courses then become apprentices and dealerships and independent garages spending 10s of thousands of dollars on diagnostic gadgets and databases. I too in the 80s before all this computer stuff thought I was able to twist wrenches but slowly learned the above, I didn't know shit and it was costing me more money and grief .
Then you got to understand dealerships! As a customer you will never see or know who the technician was, nor would the technician know or see the customer. This guy just doing what he was told to do by a supervisor in a office who often hides in a closet so he can't be found . For this reason I only use independent shops who have the equipment and experienced techs that I speak with. Never ever tell them how to fix, just what is wrong and just open my wallet and hope for the best , never say do it as cheap as you can either. Works well for me anyways. And for the Love of Gawd I stay away from lube places. My mechanic finds and fixes any issues while he changes my oil.
Customer is such an expert, he should fix it himself..
No, No that would be funny video that he would never show - hehe
50/50 shot of being right not bad odds
Ha ha ha 😂
@@epstein_isnt_dead7726 he did the right thing in that moment. put down the wrench and step away from the vehicle. and for the love of humanity never hire anybody to do anything for you ever.
@@epstein_isnt_dead7726 some model years use the same sensor but don't have the screen, He was indeed doing the right thing by leaving it out
I love the fact that Ray has proven the level of mechanical professionalism that he is.
I would hope that other mechanics could aspire to his level of decency and talent.
My shop & me is pretty darn professional too except when we throw really heavy broken parts and our freshly broken tools at pictures of Biden and Pig Vomit Pelosi it gets a bit thick then...
That could be a step or two backwards for some of us.
@@thekingsilverado8419 mp
@@aeroflopper lol
That goes for anybody in any of the trades hey have a good day bye
Really enjoy your videos Ray. You show everything you do and explain why. 👍🏻
Thank you for showing how real life works in the customer service field. You want to diagnose and tell me to replace something and pay for it, fine. There you go sir, did it, pay me and be on your way.
Yep. Honestly, we've all been screwed by shops before. I once dropped a 1990 1500 4.3L at a shop and told them "I'm 99% sure it's the fuel pump or fuel filter related". They said they would do a diagnostic and go from there. 2 days later they told me it was a faulty distributor and that I was good to go. I picked up the truck and broke down 100 miles away heading home for time off. They had to come tow it back and fix it. And GUESS WHAT? Fuel pump.
Moral of the story: some customers just want the shop to do what they say, therefore the shop cannot screw up. All screw ups are on the customer then, so no bad blood. Customers, just like techs, are not made equal. Some know a thing or 2 and some can barely walk and chew gum simultaneously. Each customer has their own reasons for instructing the shop do as they desire. Customers should be advised on proper procedure initially, but if they insist, the shop should usually do it their way. Have them sign a waiver if need be, but even if you feel the customer is making a bad choice, what they say should never be ignored (like mine was).
Love it!, don't you? they get what they deserve ..😁
If you've got the know know how to diagnose it then maybe you should fix it rather than trying to tell guy who been doing mechanics for 20 years whats wrong lmao
The check engine light was off and the oil pressure was dead in the middle @32:10.
@@oceanwaves83 I think you have to reset the ECM codes before the gauge starts to work. Splice8 above remark.
I do a lot of DIY automotive stuff. When I take my vehicles in to be repaired, it’s to be diagnosed by someone that ACTUALLY knows what their doing! Poor guy, but he brought it on himself.
Usually if I'm taking my vehicle into the shop it's because it's beyond my knowledge and expertise..... I may have an idea of what it is, but I'll let them check so they know it's repaired right...... I don't like having it in the shop multiple times because I told them something wrong
I do that also. If it's beyond my basic knowledge I take to a shop and have them run the diagnosis, pay the $50-$100 but now I know the problem and can fix it myself.
@@ahmadghosheh3104 sometimes I can, sometimes I can't, but yeah I do a buildup to attempt to diagnose it..... if I can fix it myself I do, but if I see it's beyond my knowledge it goes in..... but I rarely ever have it in the shop
@@creamwobbly LOL. What a dork.
This!
I’m an engineer and it bugs me when I see infuriating engineering like making the oil pressure sender so inaccessible. I understand there are a lot of parts in the engine bay and they all have to go… somewhere. However I believe there could have been a little more thought given to making the oil sender more easily repairable, seeing as it is not unheard of for sensors to fail.
I have a Tacoma 2TR-FE engine with 4WD, and needed to replace the A/C compressor which is in a pretty cramped location. I was wondering how I was going to unbolt the compressor, then I noticed that Toyota had placed holes in the frame rail to give access from the wheel well with a socket extension through the frame. There is an example where the engineers did a little something to make life just bit easier for someone fixing the product down the road.
That's why Lexus/Toyota will someday rule the world. Tundra & RX350 in our family.
@@Corvette.Ronnie I agree. Toyota/Lexus can be accused of moving technologically at a snail’s at times but Toyota generally makes a pretty solid product. I’m a one-person sample, but I am impressed byToyota’s customer support. I received a letter from Toyota in 2016 regarding excessive frame rust on my ‘05 Tacoma. Indeed, the Tacoma’s frame was a rusty disaster, truly awful. Toyota decided to replace the entire frame, leaf springs, bake lines and fuel lines on my truck even though it was 11 years old with about 120,000 miles of use. It took two service technicians two days to do the repair. Toyota apparently figured out the rust issue because the replacement frame is now five years old snd still looks great. What a turn-around. I was about ready in 2016 to dump my Tacoma on Craig’s List to get rid of it before it fell apart.
There was a lot of thought put into it, Its so you bring ur car to the shop to fix aka dealer lol. If you think this game is not rigged against u, u are naive my friend. There are a lot of simple things that could be done, and im sure an engineer will say but there were prob some unforeseen issues by u in recommending they should have done this instead of that. If this game was not rigged against u, then it would be more accessible software and such for repair urself. There is a reason that other manufactures of code scanner / diagnostic computers usually do not compare to car manufacture diagnostic computers, atl east they are behind the curve for a bit. That is why owners of john deer and all these other manufactures are bringing them to court for right to repair. Being forced to bring them into those dealer shops, for the simplest of fixes.
On the other hand, i will say a lot of thought went into my bmw by the engineers, at how easy a lot of stuff is to do, not everything but somethings that take u hours on most other cars i can do in under 30 min.
@@wtmayhew We bought a new Chevy Silverado back in 2000 and it was our last GM. Every fluid carrying vessel made of steal was rusted out by the time it was 11 years old. That truck was nothing but a hobby. I'll stick with Toyota or Nissan trucks from now on. Much easier to work on.......when you do have to work on them.
I agree completely. I remember the days when the oil pressure sending unit stuck out of the engine above the oil pan. you could change is as easily as changing the oil.
I watch your videos all the time! I want to thank you. I'm seventy two years old and used to do all my mechanic work. The reason I watch you I learn things to keep from getting ripped off by crooked shops. I took my Lincoln towncar to get serviced at a drive thru oil change shop. The guy in the pit yelled up me, informing me I needed my CV joints to be replaced. It so happened they also had mechanic shop .
After I quit laughing I asked him to see if my engine was sitting sideways under the hood, he said no it wasn't. I instructed him I wasn't a dumbass. I said son this is a rear wheel drive car and it doesn't have CV joints. I said the next time you try to screw someone, know what you're talking about and get your ass from out from under my car!
I wish your shop was in Jacksonville Florida, I would be your customer, for sure!
Thanks for the great videos!
I can't stand chops and try and take advantage of older people or anybody in general and I've I've quit jobs because the shops wanted me to do that and I'd say see you later bye hate to be that way but man I can't stand behind somebody's ripping people off have a good day
Always amazes (enrages?) me when I see how many different ways there are to lock an electrical connector in place! These injectors are way more difficult than they need to be, but at least they are accessible. So many connectors that are more difficult to reach, release the secondary lock, release primary lock tab, one small gravel stone in the wrong place really can screw up a guy's day!
These connectors need to be cheap AND reliable AND easy to assemble (also optimized for automation). So OEMs always try to improve the designs.
@@drkastenbrot No doubt, assembly is simple, the disassembly after the vehicle has been in service for awhile is where the problems are, but that's not a consideration. Make one style universal locking connector, save $$$ on engineering, r&d, and manufacturing all these different styles, move on to bigger and better things. Sorry for the rant, figuring out how to access ,clean and unlock/disconnect components has caused me a lot of grief over the years ✌✌
And this is why I disagree with taking off the intake. To mach to go wrong.
@@Schmitty71 issue is some comnecrors are special for fitment or for sizing. Gm connectors are all fairly the same. VW likes to use many different styles.
Computers on most cats use a cam style lock due to what they are, high amp connectors use certain style, and many others use different styling connectors to help with identifying reconnecting things.
I miss the days when trucks didn't have half the motor covered.
Try working on a Honda Goldwing. 😂
@@Laun0218 I have. I pulled the motor out to work on it, then reinstalled it.
@@NOTSOSLIMJIM yeah you know what I’m talking about, then, 😀
@@Laun0218 the honda sabre v65 were not much fun either.
That must have been sometime in the 1960’s! Starting in the 70’s they were covered with so many vacuum lines and other hoses you could barely find the wing nut on the air filter.
as a certified torque spec engineer I must say, Your in/lbs calibration in your arm/wrist device is dead on balls accurate.
"balls accurate" is a large number of decimal places!
Ray,
You'r a joy to watch work.
Thanks
I miss the good old days when you could see the engine. Back in the 50s,60s,70
Yup back when engines put out 1/3 of the power for the same size and we're done for at a 100 K
I remember when the first " smog " pumps came out, we thought they were intrusive !!!!
its great listening to crazy town in the background while he works. keep up the gd work love ur videos
I'm learning a lot watching you!
Thank you
I enjoy your videos--- I spent my whole working life "on the tools" eventually specialising in diagnostics and transmission repair. Now I'm retired and I miss working and the background noise and your working environment evokes pleasant memories--- I also miss the sense of purpose and stimulation work gave me. Treasure your time and enjoy what you do in a demanding and difficult trade. Regards and respect from Scotland!
Setup a part time mobile service? :)
Hello from South Texas ✌️
I retired at 55. Don't miss work at all. Nope.
I am the opposite, also retired but hate working on cars now.
@Robert Brown>>> U R insane... Buy some Geritol next lunch okay. If U wanna work with this insanity get off the bench...
I wish we had gloves like that back in the 1980's/90's when I worked as a heavy equipment diesel mechanic. I used to 'wash' my hands with hydraulic fluid to get the imbibed dirt and grease out.
What kind of dirt?
Ray, I’ve been watching many of your videos. I like the great detail you take in the care you take and ALWAYS trying to do the best for the customer. Some costumers are true Butt heard and others some just can not afford the expensive of some repair. I only wish I could find a Mechanic as good as you are in my area. Thank you RAY for being an outstanding Mechanic
90% of us say the same thing we all do hey there aren't that many rays in the world I wish there were more hey have a good day
Perfectly understandable. It was just a method on those guys I learned about and worked out for me pretty well.
I do enjoy watching to see all the similar situations that occur in your shop compared to mine. Like the 5.4 3valve. We won’t touch em.
Thanks for the entertaining and informative videos.
I think you are wonderful for not allowing a customers bad choices affect how you do your job. You still took care of that engine above and beyond what you had to. WTG Ray 👍😊
You are not in a bad spot. He said replace the oil sensor.. and that's what you did. I suspect he didn't want to pay for the diagnostic test? Well, now he will have to and also pay for the work you already did plus the real repair. Excellent job by you as always.
Ray, I've watched several of your videos so far, and you seem very knowledgeable and methodical. Well done. I've unfortunately grown suspicious of some service techs after a few botched diagnoses that I ended up fixing myself. Best one was the tech who figured that the reason the power mirrors weren't working was because the body control module was bad, and he couldn't identify the correct fuse for the power mirrors after I found the fuse was blown. After I got the Helm subscription to get the service manuals, found out he was full of it. The body control module didn't control the power mirrors at all! I had it narrowed down in 20 minutes: A bad mirror switch, $20. Cracked open the old switch, a contact had broken off and short circuited the traces on the circuit board, causing the fuse to blow. So glad I didn't pay them the $1500 to replace the perfectly good BCM.
And personally the sad part is they don't care it's on you or dime they get to learn something and if you go back if they make good on it you're lucky the thing that gets me I've end up in my driveway doing the same thing and been hundreds to have them play around and it ended up coming with me 20 30 bucks in a little bit of time to take a good look and think about it it ain't rocket science but it ain't easy have a good day guys
Ah, I detected a slight hint of sarcasm at the beginning, this was almost like a Portent of doom of what was to follow!😂, I like that. Good channel!. Love it.
Watching the channel a couple weeks now on the home public account, today's soundtrack got me to log on and subscribe, keep up the good, honest work
When he says click while using a standard ratchet for torque 😆 lol
Competent mechanics have a very good feel for torque after a few tears of repairing cars.
@@BarryE48 Only reason I bought a set of torque wrenches to work on my stuff is because I don't have said feel, but seeing as I though it a good idea to buy a German car, it won't be long until I do :P
Yet another expert internet mechanic. The internet is OK for ideas as to what may be wrong buy never take it as Gospel.
Retired in March 2021. 48 years working. Man your videos bring back memories. Miss the actual work!
Damn, you got some real bangers playing while you work. Nice!
Back in the days that Classic Rock was written a oil sending unit change on a Chevy was a 10 minute job even for a shade tree mechanic. They should make the engineers work on what they design. Great videos,, thanks👍
@FlaBeardedOne
Most of the engineers today at GM are "die-versity" hires and only have the job because they are a
protected minority, not because they deserve the position.
Sending unit was around $20 and took 10 min to replace on my 97 Dodge Dakota. Might have only taken 5 if I didn't stop to drink a beer lol
Yeah...and you're also the guy who thinks all seats in a football stadium should be in the front row on the 50-yard line...you've never worked a design problem in your life, have no idea all of the dynamics involved in the design, but you're a self-proclaimed Internet expert...
@@buckhorncortez Some people aren't qualified or have the actual ability to be an engineer but they are hired anyway and these kind of idiotic issues are the result, it's DIEversity hires.
They did work on the design, it's as difficult as possible without pulling the engine and the tranny... 🤣 Gotta make them dollariedoos to feed them CEO folk their gold leaf cake... 🙄
I usually sneak the mid length oil pressure sensor socket with a universal and 6 inch extension to the back, never have removed the intake for an oil pressure sensor but I do believe that's the proper procedure.
Done the same. Sometimes though it was easier to yank the intake.
That's what I was thinking, I just gave my truck the old reach around and got to the sender. But yes removing the intake is the by the book.
Flat rate shop, that's why he pulled the intake out.
@@fredted1611 nah, you shortcut everything when its flat rate. He either doesn't know the trick or he actually does things by the book, which is kinda weird😳
@@Mondos2001
Well I do know, he keeps guessing torque values on plastic intakes is going to bite him in the ass soon
Loved it Ray! You are awesome!
rutroh! My ss is having an oil pressure issue so its going to texas to get looked at by some good ppl. my area kinda sucks for fixing stuff up but on the bright side im pretty sure ill get a professional tune and i get to roadtrip outta the house after being trapped in here for two months lol. thanks for this. made me feel better when i said to myself ill just let these guys do their job and not think i can just google fix the issue. Big respect.
I would have used a shop vacuum.
next time. Like tomorrow next time.
@@timewa851 rite on bro
I've pulled an intake manifold on a 5.3 - compressed air never crossed my mind. I used the shopvac.
Also, that wiring loom he was fighting with when pulling the manifold - I used a bungee to pull it out of the way.
Yeah that was a fail. "I don't want to get debris down in the cylinders"... Proceeds to blow junk in there. The rags aren't stuffed in tight enough to do the job either.
EXACTLY...
Follwed up by 2:34 "Little red Corvette! (Baby you're much too fast. Ohhh!) PRINCE!
I love this radio station. MORE!!
100% behind you Ray - you do it the way you gotta do it. Your way is the safe way, for you and the customer.
Ray.. I love your videos and would bring anything I own to you if I wasn't three states away, but every now and then it seems like a nice shop vac would be of great service to you.
Works the other way round too. Bought a car s/h from a main dealer here in the UK some 20 years ago. It was clear the auto-adjuster in the clutch cable was slipping so I asked them to deal with it under warranty. It came back with a new clutch fitted but still with the old cable and problem.
Ended up fitting a new cable myself and found out it had to be fitted with the auto-adjuster oriented a particular way for it to work properly.
Sounds like it was a Ford with that Dumb-Ass plastic ratchet type adjuster in the pedal........Designed To Fail.....
@@dondeserthead8538 Peugeot 306XSI. The one I put in was still working fine 90k miles later when I sold it.
I wonder if that's the problem with my Saab 900 clutch cable. The old one failed but the new one just slips. I gave up on it for now. I've read you have to tug on it just right to get it "set". As soon as I find out what "just right" is, I might try again. 😂
@@aboyd1988 The '306 adjuster was square in section and sat horizontally on a crossmember (UK so RHD with clutch on the left). Can't remember how I found out or if there were any markings - this was >20 years ago now - but I do remember it would only slip if rotated 90° either way from an orientation that worked. It may have been by playing with it off the car. Didn't slip every time BTW.
I love this one!
Do it exactly how they want it, then throw it in back his face and watch him change his demeanor. I can't stand that shit! Everytime I get told to change a part because someone else gets to troubleshoot it without getting dirty it just passes me off!
What fool this customer was.
Great job on the tear down and install.
I’m glad to see there are more great mechanics then shady ones. One shop that I dealt with said that I needed a transmission rebuild. I wanted a second opinion. Turned out is was a disconnected sensor wire. Fix cost me a handshake and a thank you.
I can tell you used a different torque wrench on the driver's side front manifold bolt. It had a MUCH higher-pitched "click" than the others.
Gotta say whoever’s playlist that was, it was pretty fire! For classics! Haha
That old school Eazy E!!!
Looked for a comment about the playlist before making my own 😂🤌🏼
Exactly! Felt like I was in high school and college all over again 😂
You do great work and produce great videos - thank you!
You do nice work. Enjoyed watching the video. Thanks!
My 61 Ford had the oil sensor in plain view. How times have changed!!!
Jeep 4.0s are like that - just reach down and unscrew it.
I'm still having trouble with having to remove a cover just to SEE the engine!! My 2010 van just told me that I needed an oil change, that I must CONTACT A DEALER, AND set the MIL! I like simple much better.
Like going to a doctor and telling him what to do because you looked up your symptoms.
My daughter does that all the time. It amazes me how I wasted all that time getting a medical degree when I had her coming along. I should have just waited since she knows more than everyone.
Unfortunately necessary these days. So many doctors are not current.
I have to do that with my local Doc. I have a rare condition that they read about once in medical school 40 years ago........They havn't got a clue.
Imagine knowing more about your own body than someone who read something from a book
Love the vids! and the person that plays the music in the shop nice touch!
There is no way would I ever get that thing put back together! Good man!
I recently replaced the sender on my 2009 Yukon Denali which by default has the 6.2L engine. I have four comments relating to my experience. 1st, the sender part number changed with the 2009 model year to NOT include the screen. There was no screen inside the sender mounting column. I have no information as to other years and engine sizes. 2nd, I attempted to use the shorter method but ran into a roadblock when I could not fully seat the special socket or a standard 27mm socket on the sender. The upper portion of the socket hit the hard plastic sound barrier which is bolted to the rear of the intake manifold. Generally, the clearances were a lot narrower between the manifold and firewall compared to other vehicles so the successful completion of the reach-around procedure depends on the GM model and engine size. You have to remove several of the same hoses and connections anyway. 3rd, I found that you indeed have to reset the ECM codes before the gauge starts to work. Once the ECM detects the 5 volt reference being returned from the sender (which is equal to a pressure of over 200 PSI) the ECM tells the gauge via the CAN bus to indicate 0 PSI. It stays that way until the code is reset even over drive cycles. I found this in the live data. The failure in the sender appears to be a blown internal gasket which allows oil to get into the electrical portion of the sender causing a short between the 5 volt reference signal and the sender return line to the ECM (high voltage DTC code). The other code is just a red herring IMHO. And 4th, I recommend that you replace the intake manifold gaskets (about $27) as the old ones were distorted and compressed. They easily snap into place on the bottom of the manifold.
i mentioned that the gauge might not work if you dont reset codes. ran across this on a chevy. Same truck. you have to put the display on factory display on gauges if you want to reset the TPMS locations. weird huh?
Very informative.
Only dod or afm use the screen
You can do any of them with the reach around method. I’ve probably changed over a hundred of these over the years.
I agree that the gaskets should be replaced whenever pulling an intake manifold like this. Just not worth the risk of future vacuum leaks.
Ok, those injector clips look like a dream compared to when I removed the intake off my ‘03 style 5.3 ones that it’s a miracle if you don’t drop, lose or break. 😂
whoever is in charge of the music in your shop needs a raise. always good tunes on!
I dig your shop’s music, kickin’ it old school baby!
I changed mine out in the Orielys parking lot. No need to remove the intake manifold.
I agree on the 5.3. Not sure about the 4.8, I have zero experience with that engine.
It can be done but it's a pain in the ass
Yeah I'd change these all day. Don't have to remove but two lines. Mechanic teck 45+years.
@@wilhampton7779
Yea but I miss the good old days when they were next to the oil filter.
I seen a friend try that too, he broke the top off installing the new one, the store did not have another one in stock and it was dark by then so he decided to just go home and deal with it in the morning, started his engine and oil shot all over the back of the engine bay. What a mess.
This mess reminds me of a time years ago working on a piece of equipment in a factory, spent hours removing things that almost NEVER go bad unless there is physical damage to replace a small sensor that requires replacement on average a couple times a year.
dang.
A lot of respect for mechanics. Ive learned a lot on how to diagnos an aito..
My attempts at googling issues and solving problems has been pretty spot on. Granted none of them were as serious as this issue, but my results have been nearly perfect so far. I also don't work on vehicles a lot.
How I love my 1970 Bronco. Can sit inside the engine compartment and change the plug wires if I want. Wiring is simple, plugs lights and smiles :)
Good for you Ma'am
The customer is always right. Even when they are wrong lol.
The customer is always right.
Fuck that.
Sometimes the customer is an asshole......
@@heyrod59 He is still right, a right prick.
"Where he belongs he's right, where he belongs" (John Lennon, Fixing a Hole)
@@Mauivegan67 Agreed lol
@@johnpalmer4425 lol
i'm surprised google didnt tell him the van had cancer too.
the biggie in the background was the best part of this for me lol.
wow--most would tape the valve holes, vacuum first, and THEN use a blow gun. Lots of "junk" getting blown into the air after he replaced the sending unit
When race car engine builders build their motors, I hear they do it in a "clean room." I think this means people come in with dirty old shop rags and shake them about, and use air guns to blow dust off of things, and clean things in there, since it's a nice quite place to clean things.
Great to watch someone do this crap. Makes me glad to have taken up a new occupation - Retirement.
No more stress with the complexity of modern engines, AND NOT having to deal with dumbass customers. ( The latter being the most enjoyable )
Yeah, me too.
Dude you just made my day I walked away back in 2007 and I don't give to schitt's about what customers think or have to say anymore
I took the same path you did , retired . Last job was at a Honda motorcycle shop .
My favorite part was when the sound of the tools was drowning out Vanilla Ice. Just kidding, excellent video as always!
hey that was good song..
🤣
@@DasShaten of corse.
Great the way you do you're own torque click 😀, love the biggie smalls tunes & also liked watching you're other channel the episode we're you do your water filtration you've sorted yourself.learning a lot from you as I only work on moto x & trial bikes etc.
Thank you for letting us watch
What is scary is that I have watched several videos where : the injector harness had the connectors close to EACH OTHER and they were MIXED , DITTO on coils and they MIXED up the connectors on the PHASERS on a VVT system . Most of these were a disaster with numerous parts and a computer replaced and the customer told " the car can't be fixed " . What's wrong with it : " I don't know " . Anytime things are MOLESTED , it's OPEN SEASON ! Looks like you are focused and on point with the job . Unfortunately , there are too many hacks that cause issues .
Bullshit pal... Those are pushrod v8's without phasers
I was asked to diagnose a Volvo with misfires that two shops hade given up on. Someone had swapped leads between two coil packs...
Ford 5.4 in the e350 vans have 2 cool wires coming out of the loom but going to the wrong coils. They criss cross each other. One has a factory label, if you are lucky. Got to look up the color codes or remember the criss cross.
That's why it pays to let a qualified, skilled technician such as Rainman Ray do the diagnostics, THEN do the repair! Great video as always!
It probably would have cost the guy less in the long run as far as comp says stupid is as stupid does
Butterfly? Now there's a song I haven't heard in 20 years lmao. That must have been out when you were starting your career as a mechanic, huh Ray?
What about Tha Real Muthaphukkin G’s?
This is exactly why I told my wife No new cars they are all Junk. Speaking as a Retired Mechanic. So I bought her a restored 1966 Mustang Fast back and what do you know she Loves that Car. 🤟🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I’ve done a few of these 4.8 sending units without pulling the intake, usually takes about 40 mins and it helps that I’m blessed with small hands 😂
On my 64 impala, it was near the front
Same spot on the 5.3, my hands dont fit though....
same
Yeah I really think I picked the wrong profession. My hands are small, they're just big because I did a lot of grip strength training as a kid. So for me getting stuff out of the way is a necessity.
did you have to reset the ECM codes before the gauge starts to work?
Google mechanic eh!😂 This should be fun. Based on what you have to take off and put back on the labor is going to be a heck of a lot more than the part and he's still going to have zero oil pressure.
Banger after banger on that playlist
Pac banhing on the stereo... workshop On some thugged out gangsta shit!!!🤣🤣
Love it..
Ray you should have another channel at your own personal shop. Explaining how parts work like purge valve,injectors etc. , by showing the actual part and maybe like a drawing board .
That would be very informative and entertaining✌🇺🇸
Brave is a great teacher and an environment like that you would do even better I really would love to see that hey have a good evening
Ray I was just about to say the shop has good toons and you beat me to it! Lol 😂
The shop has cartoons?
Props for the lil Troy beats!!
02:21 I love that song. Reminds me of my childhood and teenage days in Brooklyn ny. Radio in Daytona beach sux. We don’t get freestyle music here.
Doing job by GM manual instead of just reaching back and unpluging.
Add socket and wobbly bit remove.
Leave it to GM to make a 15 minute job 3 hours.
I've never in my life seen someone pull the intake to do this job. I've done it at least 4 times. To be fair, there are a lot of variations on the chevy v8s, many have a lot more plastic back there like my dad's suburban and doing the reach around is much more difficult than the others. It's imperative to let the engine cool down but a 3" extension and the sending unit socket you just feel back there and slip it over it and then put your ratchet on there and break it loose. then thread it out by hand. Never ever seen someone pull a manifold, we only charge 1 hour for the diagnosis and repair of this whole job. What is this guy charging 3 or 4 hours? Ridiculous.
I thought it didn't make sense to remove the intake for an oil pressure sending unit. I've done a lot of my own work and one time I needed to replace a $40 part and the dealer wanted $1,200 to replace it. I did it myself and didn't do it by their book. The book said dismantle car and then replace part.
It can be done without pulling the manifold most of the time but replacing the DOD filter is really awkward.
I was 🤔 the same thing did mine like last week and I just reached back yes it was a bitch but the way he did it hell nah lol and the filter thing it didn't fit in mine either weird but I did mine in my yard
He never took out the old screen before he tried to put the new one in. Remind me to never take my truck there! Lol
He should bill Google for the misdiagnosis.
Pssst. Hey you. Come here. look here. 32:14 Google was right. The gauge is up. If google was wrong, why oh, why did he not give us a shot at the still nonworking gauge?
@@vilefly
Yes exactly. I want to see the cluster with the engine on, raised RPMs, no engine light (after clearing the codes) and the oil pressure gauge clearly visible. He didn't get that shot for a reason.
@@vilefly Psst. Ray stated that the customer said the gauge was intermittent. Instead of letting Ray perform a full diagnosis, the customer said to just replace the sender. Just because you saw it function once in the video does not mean it is repaired. He followed the customer’s request.
@@MagnumOpusSRT Well, we can debate this all day long, but my experience with this particular situation in my shop tends to steer me here. The first diagnostic step would tend to be to replace the sensor anyways, due to the difficult location. Getting an oil pressure gauge in there and back out is a 1.5hr nightmare that doesn't cover intermittent faults. That part WILL scald your hands.
Difficult, nasty and dirty work required great diagnostic and mechanical skills made more difficult by customers who cannot be blamed for having enough cash to keep their ICE vehicles running. Then there’s the politics of dealing with the customers who have little appreciation for the difficulties a mechanic faces; a situation clarified by your videos done with a levity that keeps amazing me. Thanks.
Hi there. I enjoy your humor and always learn something. Thank you! Better watch that music playing in the background brother. That will get your stuff pulled for copyright laws. Take care and happy new year.
Whoever was on the impact needs to be in one of your videos Ray. He was right on the rhythm during Ice Ice Baby. Talk about stop collaborate and listen.
All that labor.. for an oil sensor? "engineering?" at its finest
They're engineering vehicles like that on purpose. Making it harder to fix trying trying to promote buying new vehicles... GM and most other car companies are crooks
You answered the question I was getting ready to ask. How do you remember whete every thing does. Good job!
Great video , I was about to comment. But saw your ending and staring Diag is where it’s at. Customers and google 😂. Yes do the job right take off the intake it’s the right way and take care of yourself. Don’t listen to the Keyboard/weekend Warriors talk 😂!!
Great video, I have changed these without taking off the intake. It's not easy but easier than taking off the intake. Before putting it all back together, I would have checked the new sensor with my scan tool and a blow nozzle. Just because its new, doesn't mean it works. Especially if the part came from advanced auto.
oooh meow ;)
they make new junk as well. 👍✌️
That comment about Advanced auto hit me hard, got bit by one of their defective products. Worst thing is they wouldn’t warranty it! 😡 Never bought anything from them again.
it was a carquest part did you not see it?
@@79tazman guess who supplies 90% of the Auto parts to Advanced auto parts? Carquest does so you decide?
14:36 "special sockets required for these sending units." ..yep! They're called channel locks. Lol
Bingo! I was thinking vice grips or a mini pipe wrench lol
Regular sockets do fit but need to be a quality socket and 6 point.
Man im jamming to all the music lmao 🤣 somebody's Playlist is stacked
Whoever had the aux on this day was killing the playlist 👌🏻
Hi Rainman, wow it always amazes me the seemingly unstoppable desire for designers to drive mechanics crazy. Note; changed the oil sender on my 70' Chevelle 350 in about 4:00 min.
Everything goes through the first design department. When this is complete, they send it to the redesign department where they compete to redraw all the components from the original drawings into impossible to work on positions.
My son has a 68 Chevelle with a 327 motor I gave him the motor for when he graduated high school you're right about the time it's right all the way in the back right behind the distributor thank you have a good night enjoy that car I love them
That's one of the nice things about the shop I work at, we don't use customer parts and we diag everything
Not using customer parts is a bad thing. Right to repair, look it up. Repair places are swindling people out of money for the same parts they could get from a direct supplier of the same exact quality part. It should be illegal to force customers to use the same parts they could get on Rock Auto, Summit, Jegs, etc., for 200% markup.
@@JosephArata No one is forcing anything. If a customer doesn't like the shop's policies, he can go elsewhere.
You can argue about the wisdom of a given policy, but no one's rights are being taken.
@@JosephArata No reputable shop will install customer parts. The issue is warranty. Suppose you bring your own water pump to me to install on your car. Three weeks later, the cheap POS pump you bought at PepZone is leaking. If its the pump, I'm going to charge you to remove it, send you off to get another one, and I'm going to charge you to reinstall it. Am I ripping you off? Nope, I didn't sell you a defective part. If I screwed up the gasket on install, now it IS my fault, and have to redo the job for free.
@@JosephArata Using customer parts has nothing to do with right to repair. Professional shops take pride in knowing what parts to use and which ones to avoid to give the customer the best value. It's a buy once, cry once balance we do everyday in an ever changing market. This video shows a very unprofessional job from the moment the customer walked in the door until the vehicle was pulled out.
All these newer vehicles have those Jesus clips and parts!
You know, those little clips that fly off and disappear in your shop and you say "Jesus where did that go?"
And then the parts left over when done and ask yourself "Jesus where do you go?".
So much to tear off just to get to that sending unit!
Completely to many hoses and wires compared to say
a 350 Chevy of 1972!
Great videos!
I think the gunk that you talked about was preventing the screen from seating in its proper position.That also explains the intermittent gauge behavior.
32:14, looks like the oil pressure gauge is up!
Yeah gotta agree on that
Yeah I saw that too at the end! Almost right in the middle
Good eyes!!! I went back and looked and 'sho-nuff! Saw the tip of the pointer showing. Either rainman didn't see it or we're being fed BS.....
It sure does. Ray?
He sure trying not to show that gage again 😂
The sad thing about this is that most shops roll the diagnostic fee into the repair (if you opt to do the repair). If that's what your shop does, he would have effectively paid nothing for a proper diagnosis.
Reading codes are not diagnostic.
@@pashko90 reading codes, researching, and using accumulated knowledge are.
@@jamieharris74 finding and confirming an issues is a diagnostic for me. This is what I do for living.
@@pashko90 cool. It’s also what I do for a living.
That's actually a very good point.
Like always Great Job RainMan Ray and listening in the background Compton City G's
The new filter did not fit because the old filter was not removed.
The old filter was plugged by sludge.
It is going to be painful to do the job again for free.
The new filter ended up in the garbage, just clean the old one with break cleaner.