Customer States: I Think I Need Brakes!?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ย. 2022
- Turns out the customer is correct. This cream puff 2016 rust belt driven GMC Sierra 1500 does need brakes. All the way around as a matter of fact. Oh and I hid a high speed exhaust job in the mix too.
-Enjoy!
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The video shows Super Lube silicone brake grease. The link in the comment is to regular synthetic Super Lube which is less suitable for caliper pins.
Thanks!
@@jptrainor He uses both I think. When he is greasing up the caliper brackets for the pads, he uses the CRC lube, spreads it with an acid brush. Same with the caliper itself.
Nice catch about the Amazon link. The various SuperLube labels can be confusingly similar.
what happened to the purple brake lube ?
Actually the rotor "Keeper clips" is so going down the assembly line they don't fall off and someone gets hurt. I worked at GM for a few years. When I do brakes now, I just toss them away. Why am I watching you do a brake job? Because I love your videos my friend.
Eric: "If I recorded everything that came in you guys would be bored."
Us: "We watched you solder wires for three hours."
Well said
Lol
Could not agree more, and in addition learn something more about soldering in the process!
I can't believe you sold this man a brake job when you could have just turned his radio up and sent him on his way! Lmao, excellent job as usual.
Exactly!
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That would be mostly women drivers, re: my wife and my mother! Lol
My radio quit working and I could hear everything wrong with my truck.. I installed a new radio with louder speaker's.. A cop tried to pull me over for having no rear view mirrors, but I couldn't see or hear him behind me! 😂
I grandma had a bad wheel bearing on her car she took it to the dealer to have it replaced and they told her turn up the radio and you won't hear it. That was before i started working on cars
For some reason I never get tired of watching you do these brake jobs. I think it’s because how detailed you are in every step of the process. Thanks for another great video!!! 👍🏻👍🏻
After watching Eric O. do these brake jobs, I have improved my own brake service procedures. If ever there was a mechanic whom was worth emulating, Eric O. has to be at the top of the list.
Detailed to perfection and that is the HIGHEST compliment to South Main. Went to an online auction in Indiana PA and another guy was wearing a SMA T-shirt ♥️♥️♥️ We all agree Eric O is the best and his family.
Detailed but also fast and smooth
@@jtjones4727 completely agree, some of my methods and products etc have changed for the better after seeing Eric's brake jobs, in the UK we have a very similar rust situation so many of those techniques have been a blessing too
Same here. I thought I was good as a dyi but I am still trying to improve after watching EricO. Drums and shoes are still my favorite puzzle to solve!
I had squealing issues on two or tree cars I owned but they stopped as soon as I got divorced.
Came for the commentary, stayed for the processes!
In America at the time of this video it is refreshing and peaceful to watch someone work who has self-respect and honor.
As a Southerner, I've only seen/heard of rustjacking on TH-cam. But I have NEVER seen it on a brake pad. With the glues used between the backing and friction material, I didn't even think it was possible. Mad respect to those who work on rust belt cars!
Yeah I'm from South Texas and it's rare but if they live in the coast or the cars are from the coast, you'll see it. Also if they were serviced before at a cheap tire shop that has 30 USD and axle brake jobs with poor quality pads. Only it wont be rust it will be brake dust build up. Or from pad slapping on worn or mad groved rotors as well. Good video though.
I get it in Tennessee, but it's not between the pad and friction material. Usually shows up under the pad shims on the caliper mount causing the pads to NOT slide back to release completely and/or stick in the fully applied position. Causes excessive pad wear and hot spots on the rotors.
Seems like a normal daily thing where I'm at, for the pads to fall off the backing the second I touch them
Choose riveted pads (instead of bonded) if you live in the rust belt. If you go with the bonded you need to seriously keep an eye on them...
Those pads..as are most pads now are IM , integrally molded, where the friction material is pressed into holes in the backing plate to help anchor it.
I will never understand how you haven't made it to multimillion subscribers. Mr O, you really are the best.
I’ll never understand how Scotty Killmenow has as many subscribers as he does. That guy is one of the most annoying so-called mechanics on ewetoob.
Eric? I’d love to have a beer with Eric and be his apprentice for free, if I could afford to.
I know, right! At least a million. Matt, at Matt's off-road recovery has over a million subscribers.
As a southerner; I appreciate the defining of rust jacking. I'd never heard of it. Good job Mr. O!
I ran into rushjacking when I used to maintain large rubber molds didn't realize what the name was called but we took the molds apart and all the plates I'd have to clean out between the inserts because it would throw the tolerances off and then the molds will go haywire make bad parts have a good day thanks you
Customer states “car’s on fire, see the flames?”
Eric: let me take it for a rip.
Great to see a man who takes such care in doing his work. Whether it's a "simple" brake job or a complicated diagnosis. You inspire us to be better.
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@@paulheshka7065 ???
It's great to see the care given to all components. It's almost a shade-tree enthusiasts approach, where time isn't important. I paint the carriers, as he suggested and try to get it all looking factory new. Can't do that 'on the clock' in a commercial setting.
The attention to detail means the difference between the adequate job and the complete job. 👏
Another SMA job done right / If all mechanics were this good what a better world it would be 😀
If all mechanics were this good I'd feel better about taking my car to the shop rather than DIYing it. But finding a good shop with a good mechanic is such a crap-shoot.
@@JimBronson Exactly
@@bowdoin5063 and when you find that shop, the guy turning wrenches on Your car is a new guy with 3 more jobs to work on today. They have a lift. You have a short ceiling in your garage. It takes them 3 days to fit your truck in, you get it back in 4 or 5, and $500 or more over parts. If you could get This guy (Eric) to do the job, it would be worth it.
After watching this procedure, I think I needs a sand blaster, a compressor, Mr nasty, a car lift, and someone to supervise for at least 5 years. Nice job Erico. Welcome to the rust belt. Josh is one busy mechanic.
If you don't want to invest in a sandblasty you can get rustlick at the local automotive parts store all you got to do soak your parts in it and it will dissolve the rest have a good day
So trustworthy and fair. I wish all repair shop were like you. You always do the right fix. Not trying to over sell, but fixing what needs to be fixed. Great job once again.
Eric has the Dad attitude of doing his thing while explaining you the how and why he does it that way. I sit here and watch him for hours non stop. One of the best TH-cam channels in my opinion.
Nothing like watching a relaxing brake job on the internet.
By far one of the Best mechanics on the internet. Note the detailed prep work and that he does not rush the job. Great videos for the weekend warriors out there. Thank you Eric , you have saved me thousands of dollars in labor costs.
The last part of putting the wheels on and tightening the lug nuts needed to be done with 'Yakety Sax' playing in the background like the old Benny Hill closings... 😂 😅 😂
Letting the brake caliper hang in the air was priceless! LOL
Maybe not every single day, but I enjoy watching a brake job being done correctly and well. Living vicariously through Eric O.!
I love that you mentioned Fluid Film to coat unpainted metal. Very underrated step. I work on trucks and farm equipment. Fluid film, Blaster, and anti-seize are good for vehicles you plan on having around a while. 👍
Cosmoline is way messier but I will insist it's better!
@@Ariccio123 yeah, I've heard that said, but never tried it. I've hade luck with the fluid film, my grandfather just sprayed everything down with diesel fuel! That sounds crazy, but we still have running 1950"s tractors in good shape. No matter what, something is better then nothing it you live in the northeast! 😉👍
I always use antiseize on the hat even if it's incorrect or overkill. Rotors glide off at next change it seems.
I looked up Fluid Film here in the UK, and it's available (many times USA products are not ) and it's £15, $20 for an 11oz can..
"If you don't gave a sandblaster......" this is why you have apprentice's. They need to learn how to clean things manually like I did 40 years ago.
My brother as a auto mechanic with 15 years of experience said : Try turning the radio up! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The sign of a good customer who trusts you. You call them and tell them what's going on and how much it's going to cost and they say, "Sounds good. Just do it."
Ohhh nooo… a brake job, without the famous “brake cleaner”. Say it ain’t so😢😂😂😂
I bet he cleaned the rotors without us. This is what it sounds like when doves cry.
8:23 I was actually asking myself what rust jacking was, then you explained it. You know us too well
Yep, being from the south I've never encountered rust jacking before but it seems to be a thing in the PRNY.
I learned something thanks
@T.J. Kong I think I remember hearing somewhere that 1 mm of steel expands into 8 mm of rust or something along those lines, so an amazing increase in volume!
Last winter I actually found a brake pad on the side of the road, without any traces of friction material and obvious wear marks where it should have been. After watching this video I suspect the pad failed from rust jacking. The one thing I still wonder is whether someone replaced the pad and then dropped it for some reason or whether it actually managed to fall off of a car while driving. The latter would be quite shocking!
I live in Vienna, Austria, and rumour has it we're Europe's biggest single buyer of road salt. Cars are not quite as bad as rural NY ones because we don't have any dirt roads but bad enough. Every time temperatures drop towards freezing the city will cover everything with salt and brine, just in case. Considering how little snow and ice we've had in the last few years we've had more white winters with salt than snow.
Should the pads cover the whole disk area out past the edge of the disk ?
@@peterwill3699 not really, there is usually a little lip of just the backing, then the friction material
Pride in your craft Sir, it's so obvious to those of us who watch you work.
You're the button in the cap of HONEST AND HARD WORKING!
I used to get customers that would come in and say the car is grinding. I'd ask how long it's been grinding. Usually they say a day or two... upon taking the tire off, the brake pad is gone and the rotor is worn down through the fins and half the piston is eaten away. Early lesson learned, customers sugarcoat it figuring it will make it better. At that point, I have to sell them pads, caliper(s), rotors and new hardware. If they catch it when the wear tabs start making noise it would save them soooo much money. I kinda miss doing this work for customers, but now I work on locomotives, fortunately, they font have rotors and calipers 🤣🤣🤣
Great video from a pro. That small community reminds me of where I grew up in North Georgia. That would be considered going to town though, where the post office, hardware store, and gas station would be located. Along with several flavors of Church houses to choose from. Just a perfect place to grow up. Thank you.
Sounds like where I grew up here in central GA, 30 minutes to a small town for gas or the post office, an hour or more to a large enough town to buy groceries. I absolutely loved it.
this guy never cease to amaze me
Yeah but now I have to buy a sandblaster.
Awesome to see another "like minded" technician out there when it comes to thoroness and attentiin to detail. Thanks for sharing man!
Eric when you make a mistake it makes us all feel human again. really enjoy the videos, I may never catch up to the present day until I get through all the past videos. You have made a bunch.
THANK YOU !! I've been doing brake jobs on family vehicles for many years and thought I was doing OK. After watching this video I learned a lot. I can do an even better job from now on. I appreciate the way you explain and show how and why you do every little detail. Keep putting out these great videos.
Thanks for taking the time while running your business to record this for us, I find it entertaining and oddly relaxing at the same time, I've learned a lot too, regards!
Dido !
I’ve never thought of using an air hammer before to break rust! That was impressive 😄
Winter is like a magician, you wake up one day and *poof*, fall is gone.
ahh nothing like a fun brake job in the morning to start the day
The way this guy works, you know he has probably just about seen it all. Thanks for all your hard work.
Another comment too, Most of us here enjoy watching your videos, but realize you ultimately have a job to do. Don't worry about camera angles or time spent on other jobs. You do what you got to do. We appreciate the effort you make into these videos.
I just wonder what it's like working around someone who talks to himself all the time? ;)
Man I like the way you clean up all your work - I was taught that many years ago but I notice a lot of mechanics just put things back together again rust and dirty - not my idea of quality work. This makes for a lot of repeat customers !
Eric O is probably in the top 10 mechanics in America. Hats off to you Eric.
Always love the brake jobs how many of those have you done seems effortless but then that’s how professionals always make it look.I haven’t seen you beautiful dogs lately hope their all ok.
Always appreciated are the new set of gloves when assembling the pads on the caliper brackets and rotors onto the hubs.
Folks really should appreciate a decent brake and rotor replacement process that is done in full and correct. You will most likely get a 50,000 mile smooth worry free experience every time.
I must say, watching you grind the rust off of those hub faces is always the most satisfying part of these brake job videos. And when you sprayed the fluid film I almost lost it LOL. It's the rust belter in me
Just came from a Ray Raiman Chevy brake video to this.... its a good week...
same
@@mrmustangman ARH ARH ARH *insert Tim Allen grunting*
There's something Zen going on, even when you do a simple brake job, Eric. Thanks!
love the air hammer trick to the rotor before taking it off....i have pounded on those things for 10 minutes before they freed up....see, even an old dog can learn a new trick
That ol' roll the tire up to your knee and kick it up is universal
I just watched Ray do a brake job video. You guys don't realize that there is a certain satisfaction watching even something as routine as a brake job. Hey, Eric, you know Ray had the audacity to mention rust on a car he was working on? I told him you were on the floor laughing. RUST?
There's nothing a classic brake job video to bring comfort and joy into one's day. Love every one of them. Thanks as always Eric!
Although it went by at super speed, I did see you use a torque wrench on those wheel lug nuts. That's what I see as a pro move; rarely done in most shops where they just turn up the impact to high and hammer them home. Thanks!!
I noticed that tire stores had started using torque wrenches at some point during the early 80s. Back in the day if a flat repair was done at a gas station it would be hammered on with an air wrench. I think as alloy wheels became more common the use of torque wrenches became more common.
Yes Eric, the rear rotors are worn right down to metal! We know what you mean, I think you do a fantastic commentary as you are working. You know your trade and do an awesome tutorial of maintainance proceedures. Great humour added as well, and this is your income so well done, very watchable and informative, best wishes from New Zealand...
Nice. There's something about a brake job that brings some level of satisfaction.
Good job Mr. O. Just in time for the snow, ice, sleet, hail, freezing rain, salt and all them fun winter things!
Not just a brake job Eric. Looks like a work out . Then a rest on the 10 minute road test.💪💪👍🛠
Great work and fantastic attention to detail. I've learned a lot about getting brakes to last due to working on a lot of dirt road vehicles in Michigan.👍🏻
Part of it is letting road friction be a part of the stopping process. When I see a light red I will not drive and then brake just to sit and wait, I try to judge when the light might change within reason considering traffic. Any friction you can utilize that doesn't come from the brakes is money in your pocket.
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Mr. O, I'm drunk as ph*ck right now at 1:30am Friday "morning" watching another of your fine vids!!!! PLEASE, keep your vids coming to us!!!!! God continue to bless you and your fantastic family!
Thanks Eric 0, I've been doing my brakes on all my cars for 50 yrs, but I've learned a lot watching your videos. 👍
A thorough brake job with a brake test afterwards is always welcomed. Good job.
Nice job. Thanks for all the diagnostic videos, helping me with all the snowblowers and wiring issues with lights, heated handlebars etc. Traced a short yesterday on a buddy’s snowblower last night, thought, I’d better thank Eric, lol.
I miss the brake clean and fluid film sound effects!
Just make it in your head...
I'm always amazed at the attention to detail on something as mundane as a brake job!! Granted, brakes are very important, but I can imagine so many other folks/shops would not spend near the time/care in doing this job. Top shelf as always Eric O!!
This is the most manic ive seen you in all the videos ive watched so far, super high speed brake job no time to stop for a chat or a brew, then you speeded up the video, hilarious and great to watch.
I was waiting for the 'brake cleaner' segment with the rotors! no show! great videos as always Eric.
with so many interruptions on a job I would forget what I said about the things I pointed out earlier and would be repeating myself or I would talk about it and then forget to do it. I appreciate the not only the "what" of the job but also the "why" that others leave out. I like that you do quality work, making the best of what you are given to work with and my kids can watch too. great job.
I learned a long time ago on GM's, if you're doing them at home and you don't have any loc-tite available, NEVER clean off the old loc-tite and never use ANY kind of anti-sieze . Those bolts will back right out if you do, especially on the rears. Just put them back in with the old loc-tite still on them and they will stay tight just fine. I know that's not professional, but hey, I'm not stating that to you as a professional either, actually kinda back yardigan. Though in my capacity as a professional, I would take them to the wire wheel on the bench grinder, clean it all off and reinstall them using blue loc-tite only. Thank you for your forum, Mr. O.
I've been wire brushing for years....never thought of that, thanks. Never to old to learn.
Always enjoy watching a job done right. Good to see you torquing the lug nuts after you set her down. Glad I don’t have to deal with rust-jacking and all the other rust you have to deal with. Keep making great videos and we’ll keep watching!
Thank you Eric O for another great video. Man I can't believe how layed back that town is, the whole test drive had maybe 6 cars.
it was rush hour in Avoca
CMON MAN ......
@@ccole9080 lol 😂
I've found that the rust jacking is not only between the pads and backing plates, it also happens between the pad clips and mounting brackets. I use a file to clean the rust from the mounting brackets and put a little brake grease between the bracket and the clips before installing them. Only takes a few minutes if you have the brackets off. It keeps the pads from seizing up in the brackets. Also, a little silicone spray behind the dust boot around the piston helps keep the piston from sticking. I never had a come back on brakes that were done this way....NE Ohio rust belt. Still a great video for someone doing their own brakes for the first time. Thanks for your diagnostic intellect.....learned a lot here!
Eric, I would love to see a REAL “Day in the life” video of a typical full 10-12? hr day in whatever speed you used to put the tires back on in this one (3x, 5x, ?x). Just mount the camera above the corner farthest from the office door to see most of both bays and let it roll with no commentary. Maybe a clock in the shot so we can gauge the time passing. Minimal processing so it’s easier on you.
Just an idea. Always love to come along with whatever you’re willing to share. Happy Thanksgiving.
Watching you with the torque wrenches reminds me since I work on airplanes I have to get mine in to get calibrated per the FAA
ONES of the best and through jobs i seen in a long time. Slow down, cleans things up, and a little lube. A ONE
I love the trick of the C clamp to compress the piston. Never thought of using it for that.
I did a couple of brake jobs for friends recently, and the lessons I learned from your videos were immensely helpful. Thanks for all you do, Eric!
Edit: I used a C clamp and the old pad to push the pistons in. I think I learned that from you or Wes. Saved me from buying a fancy brake compressor.
I always use a C clamp as well. Works just fine for us DIY'ers. And on the dual piston calipers, just put an old brake pad in there to push the two pistons in simultaneously :)
@@brianm9007 yep, that's exactly what I did on my buddy's Ram.
Thats how I did it for years until I saw someone use the Lisle piston push tool and decided I had to have it. I still use an old pad on top of the piston but using the tool is so much easier and faster. I also have the dual piston version of the tool too.
I did a front brake job will pads and blood all my lines made sure everything was free and clean and painted have a good day thank you for all your information
@@brianm9007 you gotta be careful on some vehicles (like my Ford) in the rear that have plastic caliper pistons. A c-clamp will crack the plastic and then it has to be replaced. I still use the C-clamp but I use it on the outside before taking the caliper off, that seems to work pretty well.
I must say the first video I watched of yours was the one where you showed us how to do u-joints with a hammer and a socet 5 years ago!!! Been teaching me ever since. Appreciate the videos they help more than you know !!!👍👍👍👍
AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A $50 BRAKE AND AND THE $150 BRAKE JOB, GREAT JOB MAN WOW. IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU DETAIL A CAR PAINT WELL WELL DONE, THANK YOU FOR SHARING
pretty thorough brake job there . super video .78 years old and still doing my own servicing .
As always, another great video. Appreciate the commentary, skill set, confidence and attention to detail. Nice work!
You always do a awesome job on everything you work on and I know that your customers appreciate it a lot
He "thinks" it needs breaks? 😲
Not a motion wasted. 😊
Good educational video. Thank Eric .
Came here for the repair, stayed for the brake bracket painting.
Hey always look forward to a video, whether a brake job or an engine change. Thanks as always, Eric!
Hey man, love the channel and all your content - you seem like a honest, down to earth, and all around great mechanic i wouldn't hesitate taking my personal cars to _(if i cant do it myself haha)_ and that says alot!
You make me thankful to live in the south. My girlfriend’s truck just rolled over 300k miles and it’s just starting to rust in a few places.
"Is that how you use an Airhammer!"
C'mon Eric, you know the rules by now!
Every Tool is a Hammer ⚒️.......But not every Hammer is a Screwdriver 🪛 😎👍🏻
15:55 Take note, Ray. Never tap the pads in or grind down the ears. They have to go in schmoooth.
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the way he does things. I won't go so far as to call him a hack but I will say he seems to have hack-ish tendencies that puts me off from watching him.
But Ray says that you should never hang the calipers by the brake hose, yet Mr O repeatedly let the heavy hunk of metal hang freely on that poor piece of rubber. I grimaced each time he did it.
I gotta say this, and it’s meant as a compliment. You and Rainman definitely hit the lottery in the marriage department. I’d probably still be married if I had found such a woman.
I thought you were going to say that they watch each others channels😉
Take your point on two beautiful ladies putting up with the antics tho🤣
All the TH-cam garage car guys have great other half's
It's called team work.
And the other thing is when you point a finger at someone you have three pointing at you!!!
theres a sobering thought rainman and eric o at the same shop ......wow what a franchise that would be ....
@@TheOriginalDaveJ I'd say the antics are the key to their success.
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I suspect not all shops are good about removing all the rust like Eric does.
love the 'simple brake job' with the sandblasted brackets and mirror polished hubs... 👍
I cannot imagine what questions are left to ask after such an elaborate detailed brake job video. These are the best!
Use OEM rotors and pads. The cheap ones will warp quickly. I try to find the original OEM parts when I can. They cost a little more, but you don't have that particular problem again for a lot of years.
"How much do I owe you?"
Eric O, I happened to watch a very similar Brand X TH-cam video and figured seeing grinding the pad frame to fit better was questionable but your excellent work ethic about how to solve the problem vs grinding a brand new part was a class act. There are many that try to emulate the best but fall short. Your a class A technician and a class act on your work ethic. Hopefully the brand X creator will see this video and mentally note the recent failure to emulate the best. BTW I know brand X watches SMA. Lastly the fore mentioned is a great guy and does a lot of great work that I respect hopefully it will get better. Thanks for what you do for everybody.
Keep warm and have a Happy Thanksgiving.
Now I have seen really crappy pads not fit even a clean bracket but I am talking like the dollar tree brand pads.
That truck sounds like my GXP when I bought it lmao. Nothing like metal on metal baby!
Every time the phone rang I found myself "Doodly doodly doo"ing - Missing it on the Rainmans channel. I was surprised again how rust free this one was - but a nice easy job here for you.
You make it look sooo easy. King of multi tasking! Stay warm and Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
Great Job as Usual! Best Mechanic work as usual that I personally have ever seen! Have learned tons watching your videos; Please Keep-em coming! Many moons back worked in parts sales and did basic mechanic work and diagnostics; have learned tons watching your methods and also the tools used. Since retiring from public service, slowly pursuing getting diagnostic equipment myself to do some small jobs; enjoy the challenge of properly diagnosing and repairing a vehicle that stumps everyone lol. Bout to purchase my first Autel. Btw, got my first SMA shirt and the quality is Excellent! My family and I always enjoy watching the videos! Your the Best mechanic I've ever seen and its also great to see a great family! You have the upmost respect and support from me and the Family! Keep the great videos coming; especially enjoy the diagnostic videos!
Try a gun style needle scaler on the hub faces. It knocks off the rust, leaves a truer flat surface, gets right in around the studs, takes way less time, shot peens the surface so it won't rust as bad and doesn't kick up dust to breathe in. Plus roloc discs are expensive. I also use it on the brackets, it's much quicker than anything else.
The old homestead at 27:23. Always like the rides up Maple Ave.
Again a great video…..I appreciate you giving the odometer readings. I’m always working on old high mileage cars and like to see how long certain parts last. Thanks
Excellent informative job once again Eric thank you! I noticed you put a lot of time in editing the videos also. I wonder how long that takes for you or if you have someone else do it? I appreciate the cool fast forwarding jobs, that was funny! Learned a couple things also, thank you again and hope you and your family are doing well... many blessings!
Some say it can take a few hours depending upon the program used.