Tesla Battery Degradation after 2 Years | Stop Killing Your Battery!
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In this weeks video I am going to be preforming and showing you How To Battery Health Test your Tesla Model 3, Model Y, Model S, or Model X. This Tesla Battery Health Test gives you a rough estimate of your Battery Degradation. Afterwards I will be Discussing Battery Tips for preventing Battery Health Loss and Increasing Range.
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M3 LR 2019
max range is now 245 miles at 100% soc
Total miles 270k. Orginal everything, car has been good to me.
nothing major replacement parts other than tires right? well congrats, i hope i get the same experience after i reach those mileage
over a quarter million miles? hell yeah
Yep. I have a 2022 Model Y Performance. 135,000 miles. No issues so far. I have been pretty much everywhere 😅
City driving or highway driving is a bigger differentiator
What level do you charge to everyday?
I think every Tesla owner need to take a chill pill about the battery. I also have a 2022 Model 3 Performance, and I barely look at the range I have. I go by the battery percentage, I I have never worried about battery degradation. I do take care of my car, I only use superchargers when I have no choice like going on a trip. I also charge up to 80% unless I am going on a trip. Only a few times I charge to 90% when I know I will be doing some extra driving. In general, my car sits at home at around 60% to 70%, I charge at work as we have free charging which is the same power as I have at home, so no stress for the battery. On the other hand, I do accelerate hard many times, but that is one of the reasons I got the Performance model so it is what it is. I live in Florida so no worries about cold weather, only have to watch for floods. My Tesla just turned 2 years old so I will do the test you did whenever I have the time just out of curiosity, but unless I see some red flags (which I doubt it as my range seems to be just fine), I will not be paying much attention to any small degradation. If I want to preserve the battery as new, then I would not be able to drive at all, so, no, take a chill pill and just do your best to treat your Tesla good, and enjoy driving it. I will probably sell my car in about 3 years or so and get the new Ludicrous or whatever it will be called... or maybe a Model S Plaid if I can. Still, i will enjoy the car and don't worry much about the battery. Cheers.
First time I’ve seen this battery health test done before in this way with going into the settings. Thanks for sharing it.
I have a 17 100D on 19 inch wheels that I bought used with 41,000 miles on it in December of 2020. Charge at home to 80%. Have lost just a little over 4% in range over the last 4 years and has leveled off and seems to be holding steady. Full charge gives me 320 miles under optimal conditions - at 80% the car still delivers 253 miles at 79,485 miles. No worries here.
How is your 100D doing so far? My 17 100D is at 247 for 80% with about twice your miles (93K). Haven’t topped it off lately but at this rate it’s about 308 full charge.
@@ElMistroFeroz after a 8924 mile trip around the country, and supercharging all the way, at 80%, or 248 miles. Some of the trip was in some extreme heat out west. Now at 91,591 miles
One of the best battery videos I've seen with good advice as well. Just short of 30k miles on my 2019 LR RWD Model 3. Basically I've followed your same routine. Locally I only charge to what I need. Rarely over 60 percent locally. Even on road trips I stay between 70-30. Store the car between 30-50% between drives. Supercharged 36% of the time due to road trips. Still around 305-310 miles of rated range. It was 325 when new. The BMS can swing pretty wildly when you keep to a low SOC regime.
You remind me of my little brother, and both of you are super smart. I respect the grind you got going for being a good knowledge source on Tessie’s.
He literally looks just like my baby brother. Crazy how it works.
Funny. He also looks like my 28 year old son.😂😂😂👍👍👍
I typically charge at home to 80%, and the car gets plugged in every night. I only charge to 100% for road trips, although watching your road trip videos I noticed you rarely charge to 100, instead opting for more stops, but shorter stops. Normally if I'm road tripping I've opted for fewer, longer stops. I've downloaded A Better Routeplanner since my next road trip will be from my home in metro Detroit to Chicago (my daughter wants to see the K-pop group ENHYPHEN) so it'll be interesting to see what Tesla's navigation recommends vs. ABR.
I have MYlR for 1 yr with 12k miles and still at 99% batt health.
I stay between 30-70% SOC for daily, as much as possible I always want the SOC closer to 50%. I charge at home level 2.
My advise is just charge when you need to. Dont leave it plugged in all the time sitting at higher SOC. Battery likes it best at 50% and anything closer to that is good
Leaving it plugged in is no problem. It stops charging at your set limit and only tops off after it’s dropped a bit. Also it will pull power from the cable instead of the battery if you use preconditioning etc.
Excellent approach to maximize your NCA battery. A youtuber got his hands on a tesla battery technician's paperwork and what the tech used was 30 and 80...anytime, within the car's life, the battery went below 30% SOC and above 80% SOC it was considered red- harmful...inside those percentages was considered green- good. This is what Tesla uses to determine why a battery degrades more than others. Tesla finally admitted to maintaining 80% max (lowering it from the typical 90% rule) for daily use but you'll never get them to admit the min 30% SOC....that means you can only use 50% of your NCA (LOng Range and Performance) Teslas...
22 3LR - 60,600 miles in 15 months. Tessie app reports 5.7% degradation. Great video!!
is that with the default 77.8 kWh capacity inside Tessie Battery health?
@@orihime15My Tessie app says it has a 73.3 kWh capacity. 292.9 charge cycles too.
@@TheDrivenDave that is weird, i have the same 22 3LR with 25k miles, when i click the kWh inside battery health, it says "The average original capacity of this Model 3 configuration is 77.8 kWh." so i changed the capacity to 77.8.
Yes, you’re correct. I guess my current available capacity is down to 73.3 from 77.8.
2023 February bought Lfp M3, 2,7% degradation as of now (13.03.24) according to Tessie app (which I know it’s not acknowledged by Tesla officially). Range was - when brand new - around 437-440 km, now depending on the weather it’s 425-430 km. What do you people think? I’ve driven 25000 km
Checking, worrying, estimation battery life at 2,3,4,5,6,7 years is ridiculously stupid... To do an actual battery degradation test you need a car that has 200 k miles and regardless of how many super or slow or whatever charges,, then you check it. The silly issues around charging are just that.. You'll see a degradation of about 10 to 13% over a 5 to 7 year period provided your car has been cared for properly and it has no unseen issues.. like factory defects etc.. there are Teslas right now with 300k miles original battery with more then 85% original range est.
Great advice, great testing, great information. Great video.
I have had my Model Y long range for 13 months and 33k miles. 100% was 330 miles. 100% now shows 303 miles or about 8% degradation. I charge to 80% every night and always leave plugged in. I tend to drive a little harder than most. 77 mph on highways and faster than average starts at red lights.
Driving your car the way it was intended. I like it. I do the same with charging. I have dropped mine down 75% now that it’s starting to warm up a bit. With the winter I would do 80 and some days I would lose 8-10% just sitting idle in my parking lot while at work so some days I would use 15% while other I would use 40+%. Lots of variety of miles driven per day so I leave me more options.
I think it’s probably because of winter which reduces your range or it could be you have some sett8n and technology turned on. I recommend just driving up to speed limit when you can and maybe turn off some Tesla features,probably like sentry mode, or maybe climate controls when you don’t need it. Those types of settings kinda drain battery so that could be the case. Either way, experiment a bit with settings that works for yo7 and that doesnt
You’ll have to go into service mode to measure actual degradation. What you’re referencing is just a range estimation based on your driving habits.
77 on the highway is fast? 😅
@@onwisconsin2362, so far, software updates have not changed the EPA range indicated by the vehicle for my 2023 Model Y. It appears it only applies to 2024 models.
My 2021 Model Y Long Range 320miles max range, after 3years and 70,000 miles lost 21miles range and that is about 7miles per year lost in the past 3years. It is driven almost 5 times a week around 100miles per day on regular days charged max to 80% every day before regular use. And it is almost taken to many long roadtrips charging at superchargers during holidays or family vacation trips.
My 2023 model 3 rwd only lost 4 kilometres of range after 35 thousand kilometres of driving. Never been fast charged and left plugged in each night. Its an LFP battery.
It’s amazing
Are you charging to 100% every time?
@@simonzeman6876yes 100% LFP batteries are recommended to fully charge
@@steadyeddi-yz3sy But when you leave it plugged in, do you also charge it, or you just leave it plugged?
@@gabornagy3888 charging is set to off peak times
3:00 Ultra wide-band support only applies to 2024 Model 3, Cybertruck, and newer S/X. Other models do not have the hardware to support UWB.
M3 LR (03/2022) - A little bit over 40.00 km (25000 miles) and instead of 576 km (358 miles) it now has 556 km (345 miles) on a full charge.
I guess this is pretty good , isen't it ?
2023 MY LR after 8 months and 20,000 miles showing me 325 miles at 100%. Been charging to 65% since about a month of ownership after determining that to be my sweet spot. Yet to charge the car to 100% so that could be skewing my estimate, but overall pretty happy thus far.
9000km and 0,8% battery degradation. I charged it mostly to 80% and never let it drop below 20%
Can you remove two of your back seats and put 18 inch tires on and do a range test?
Great video. Understand your question was fir EV'S. How bout doing a video on ICE car efficiency degregation so we have some comparison.
There seems to be some notion that this degregation only applies to batteries as it is brought up as a concern.
Curious to see a test comparing charging 110 daily vs charging 240 once or twice per week. My EV charges every single night because we only have a 110 outlet in the garage. I feel like long-term it would be better for all the various components if charged less frequently, albeit at higher voltage/amps. The sound of the charger, fans, etc going 7 nights a week seems excessive.
The new highland performance is coming to Australia first yay
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just got my new model 3 rwd and lost 6km/3mi in the first month, vehicle is at 5000km and yea not too proud of it yet
1 year old 23 MYP says around 292 to 298 mile range. (usually 148 miles at 50% soc) Only charge every 2 or 3 days and have less than 60 miles. going from 50 to 70%. However I've noticed the indicated soc going quickly down from 70 to 57, then slowly to 50 when I then plug it back in. I will try plugging in everyday to 60% and see if it improves the BMS.
I do have a 2023 MODEL Y after 1 year 4 months I drove 20k miles.. I lost 6% of my battery capacity.
I noticed that my 2022 long range with 28K seems to have a disproportionate miles / % range since the software update. I have 19” wheels and my range has always been the % bases off the 334 mile total range. Now my range is greater than 334 it seems. Right now I am at 68%/ 231 miles. 68% of 334 is 227 and 69% of 334 is 231. Things usually round up so I would expect to be at a higher%. It’s kinda weird. I will have to see what my estimated max is.
Total range based off my calc is 340 miles instead of 334 like it used to be. I will have to verify once I get to my car
Yeah the recent update adjusted my rated miles shown
Same here I have 2021 m3sr+ before the update I had it at 100 showed me 256 now with the new update shows me 246 sometimes 244 🤷🏽♂️
2022 model Y performance. rated 303 new showing 266 now, 58,000 miles. is this typical? almost a 13% loss
if you did primarily super charging yes. if you did mostly home charging then no. I would consult with tesla and ask them why the range is showing much lower now. it could be the new epa cycle which lowered the rated range for all of the tesla models. That drop would make sense if the new epa cycle is updated to the older models. (2023 and below) The new epa estimate is supposed to be closer to the real world ideal range you would get rather than the previous over estimated values. I would check to see how much range you end up getting real world and your efficiency. If you can accurately get around 250+ miles of range from the entire battery pack, I would say your fine. Ik MYP showed rated as 303 before. But the new MYP show as 279 when you buy them. It doesn't mean that the newer models lost range or have a battery composition change, they just changed the estimated range to be more realistic. So if that change was applied in an over the air software update, you likely degraded from 279-->266 which would indicate about a 4.66% degradation which is actually quite good after 58,000 miles. I would recommend to charge at home primarily vs supercharging when you can.
TLDR; Tesla likely incorporated their new epa testing to your range through an update so you're degradation is likely 4.66% (266/279 miles) and not 13% which would be quite concerning. Hope this helps.
My 2022 Model 3 Long Range with 28,000 miles shows a limit of 338 miles. I have 19” wheels. Does having the 19” wheels factor into the range limit. If it doesnt than that’s only 5.5% range loss.
2022 Model 3 rwd LFP now at 100,000 km current battery state of health 97%. I charge daily to 100% and drive it down to below 5% regularly. The only care concern with LFP is to not let the battery sit at below 20% SOC. So as soon as I get home I charge to 20% no matter what time it is and then stop charging until 11:00 pm so that at 6:00am I'm ready to go. BEST CAR EVER!!!
What range is shown on your screen when charged at 100% ?
@@pauld3327 416km was 428km when new.
My 2022 SR+ LFP model 3 with 40 k miles has gone from 270 to 258 max range.
I got a 22M3P with 29k miles with 9% battery degradation. Seems kinda high eh ? 😢
I have a 2023 TM3SR (LFP battery pack) and in the 6 months of ownership I have seen the max range even though the battery will read 100%. I will normally charge upto 80-90 daily and to 100 once a week. However, whatever I set my charge limit to, my range is always 1% less than the charge that I set. For example 100% should get me 272, however this is not the case. 100% will get me 269 miltes of range. If i need the extra e3 miles of range then I would have to charge to 101%
Down to about 71% on mine
I wish they can give all the model 3 performance a over the air ludicrous mode
Ok but range which is shown on the screen is EPA range and its calculating independentely on size of wheels... I have r18 and r19 and range shown on the screen is always the same
my batter is at about 91 percent degregation! my Nisan Leaf was only 4 percent after 8 years
2?years and only 20000miles and you talking about degradation 😂my Tesla 100000miles in 2 years, now we can talk👍🤦♀️
my MYLR came with 330 and now the full charge capacity is 315, I have 5000 miles on the car, is that normal?
So you have a performance model 3 but the TH-cam thumbnail is model y?
You've got me beat. I have a 2022 model 3 Performance on the 20-inch wheels and have only use my home charger. 100% charge only gives me 283 miles on the display.
How many miles?
@@michaelreda8447 17,500
how often do you plan to upgrade your tesla? every 5 years?
Major refreshes
I plan on swapping teslas when the battery technology changes majorly. In 2026 Toyota will introduce their Solid State battery to their EV fleet. It will have 640 range with about a 5 minute charge t0 80%. That's what tests show. And their higher trim models will have 995 miles range. Freaking nuts! WE are in the middle of a car technology revolution.
2018 performance. 190,000 miles. All supercharging. Around 10-12% degredation. Battery holds about 66 kWh vs 73 when new. What I want to know is what is the long term future like for this battery? Will it just keep working and losing tiny bits of range or will it suddenly break and need to be replaced?
Very good question. Hopefully someone knows
Most likely the latter…
Depends on how you charge - was just at dealer and they told me don’t charge at same state each time or it will damage battery. For example this guy would always charge his car when it got down to 50% and it carved a channel in the battery and had to be replaced. Other than that they couldn’t give number of life span for battery since model y is so new. I read online of a taxi driver that has one at 400k and still going strong.
Do you know the price of the new Tesla model 3 performance?
I have 2023 M3. 4k miles lost 11% battery. From 272 to 261. Why?🤷🏻♂️
Did you figure out why?
How bad does a Tesla battery have to be for replacement under warranty?
I believe you have to have 40% or more degradation
It can show you any number it wants. Bottom line how much were you able to drive when you got new car and now. Mine full range is 315mi. I could get 305mi. Now its 288mi but actual miles is 170. There is an "estimate fraud". Otherwise tesla would be packed w battery warranty replacement requests.
MY Standard range, 26K milage , always supercharge, i don't have home outlet(rental) and teslafi show 14.9% loss at 100% charge, Tessie app 14.6% loss! feeling bad for SR!
2018 M3 LR RWD 18" aero
131,000 miles
6~7% battery degradation
293 mi now was 310 mi new
PNW driveway never garage, ambient temps 35 degrees to 70 degrees
120 V 12 A home charge
~ 100+ SC sessions per year
People really need to stop going off of range to measure deg 😂😂
People worry too much about battery life. Whatever you do, these batteries in all EV's will eventually deterioriate. I say charge as needed and use it like a regular car. Having to put thought on when to charge at 80% or more, is just anxiety making. Charge and go. Worry later about a battery. If 100k down the line the battery has 50% less range, then sell it for what you can and get another car.
Dont not take this advice. Lol
yeah this guys kinda dumb lmao its a car average people keep it for atleast 9-10 years you kinda want your battery to stay fresh@@venap717
200k down the line tesla losses only 12%. 50% lol 😂
Why wouldn't you just pay the 10-15k and replace the battery?
My Model 3 LR has 80k and almost 3y(jun/24). I did my maintenance test and tested the battery last year when it had about 60k. It showed 3% battery degradation but today when I charge to 100 whenever I need, it shows 328-329 miles.... Go figure
2,1% battery degradation MYSR - berlin with BYD battery after 8000 KM
I have a Berlin Model Y Peformance 9000 km and 0,8 % degeneration so far
Does the rotation screen ruin any Tesla warranty?
94% after 10 months and 13000 miles
So much debate of what % to charge to. Who cares? Nobody is keeping a Tesla long enough for it to ever matter. I have a 2022 MYP with 50K miles and I charge to 100% all the time. NO ISSUES. And don't care either way because it two years I won't own it anyway. For 99% of Tesla owners it's completely MOOT. Do whatever the hell you want, drive it, and get rid of it like you do any other vehicle you've ever owned.
The only problem with your logic is that you won't get much for a EV with a shot battery, better off replacing the battery
china made - battery in the Australia market is better quality than the US market which is from Panasonic. Check your battery where it is made from. You are lucky if you got a LFP CATL battery or blade battery from BYD.
How can you fund out where the battery came from? Vin?
@@bobtruck1594 ask Tesla when you purchase the vehicle.