As a former HVAC tech, my guess is that the compressor had a mechanical breakdown that led to debris circulating through the refrigeration lines. This would be the main reason to replace the AC lines. The original estimate was pretty much in line with what other manufacturers would charge to replace similar equipment, but the supermanifold added a lot of complexity and cost. I think your video just sold some extended warranties.
I drive a 33 year old car that has working heated seats & HVAC system. No downtime because of charging, no software updates and only 3 control modules... ECM, ABS & cruise control. I love it!
@Del_987 pretty much. In the last 6 years, nothing but oil changes. Plugs, air filter, brakes etc. all have been fine. Why would you want to buy an EV at $40k+ (USD) when you will NEVER recoup the "savings" of cost of fuel. LOL Keep it long enough and you need a battery worth more than the car is worth. LOL Yeah, trade it in for a new EV... and scrap the old one. Who's polluting more now?
@@funnyguy1487 that 40 plus k ev will smoke everything under 100k lol boomer. Even the model 3 dose 0-60 in 4 seconds. some of us want to have fun and don't care about oil or the planet lol. i am just don't with 90 bucks at the pump i know that much.
@alexanderkennedy2969 same for me but 2020 since I wasn’t old enough in 2016. The current nation surprisingly reminds me of California where the majority of the country vote red (like the majority of California), but the few places with so many people vote liberal and ruin it.
2015 Mazda, 159 k miles nothing but brakes oil changes. Tires. find me a Tesla with 150,000 miles with the same battery and drive electric motors. It will never happen. They are junk. Most Teslas become paper weights after five years 75,000 miles if you go on the out of warranty tesla forums you’ll want to kill yourself. Some of these people are regular blue-collar people cabdrivers etc who bought Teslas for $50,000 thinking it would save them so much money on gas then the battery goes up and it’s $25,000 to repair
I just sold my 2018 Model 3 Performance after buying a new Model Y. It has 97,500 miles and has no significant issues since the warranty expired. Those that want to use anecdotal stories about their gas cars not having issues, well, here's my anecdotal story about one with very few problems. :) Another anecdote: A friend with a 2020 GMC Terrain with 90,000 miles that has been religiously maintained with service records needs a new engine at a quoted cost for a rebuilt engine of $10,000. Cars break. Sometimes at inopportune times.
I am going to keep my old Toyota Camry. Last year all I did was an oil change, and that was it. It's nice to have a car that doesn't eat you alive and take your hard-earned money because EV's are so new they are still in the experimental phase and using unsuspecting people as guinea pigs.
@@jq3mjqi546I've had more than one chevy go well over 200,000 miles with minimal maintenance. My brother had a Honda that went over 375,000 miles. EV apologists are pathetic.
@@jimfarmer7811 The only ICE vehicles I've had over 200,000 miles are Toyota Prius. My wife's love of trucks and F150 wasn't that great. My current little BMW i3 electric is at almost 100,000 miles and the "annual service" is filling up the windshield washer and changing the wiper blades. Every 3 years I bleed the brakes but apart from that 2 hour jaunt it's maintenance free so far. The maintenance schedule says 5 years for the brakes but I figure the brakes rarely get used so the fluid doesn't get a chance to get warm. I used to race cars (SCCA) so bleeding the brakes and understanding brake fluid and what works is second nature.
Yeah b/c one bad incident automatically negates all the other Tesla owners' good experiences. And I'm sure no other cars out there have ever needed repair after 50k miles.
@@davidhouston5783 Never is a long time unless you're as old as I am, but EVs are not yet ready for general use. They need more time to deal with battery safety, charging time and driving range, and there need to be public chargers readily accessible throughout the country. While they're at it, cars need to be repairable again. Right now, all they can do is to replace entire modules or systems because they can't repair them.
I have watched many Tesla videos. I went from really wanting one, and attempting to justify the high cost, to being glad I kept my 2004 Buick Park Avenue. I keep the Buick in perfect condition. It has 145,000 miles drives, and runs perfectly.
Have a 2013 Scion tC, 160k miles on her, runs like a clock! The range doesn't magically go down every time I fill up too.. cold doesn't cause my car to shit itself, unlike EVs. Just look at Chicago 😁
2004? Christ. Treat yourself with a new car. You only live once. We could all buy old basic cars for next to nothing but some ppl like new cars. Why not go even further and sell your 2004 car and catch a bus everywhere and save more money and make life even more miserable
It's amazing how close your situation is to a situation I had with my 2014 GMC Sierra 2500HD. At about 2,000 miles over the factory 36,000-mile warranty, my truck died on me and left me stranded on the side of the road. First time something like that has ever happened to me and I was NOT happy about it. Luckily I wasn't too far from home at the time, and I was not far from my buddy's towing company. Called him up and he sent a truck over to where I was and towed my Sierra to the nearest GM dealer. My truck was out of warranty, but the dealer still gave me a loaner car, sent me home and told me they'd call me when they figured out what the problem was. They called me later that day, told me it was the ECU, which had fried itself and was a "known issue" with those trucks, and said it would be about $1,000 to fix it. I was pretty mad, and I let her know that, but I didn't get all worked up about it over the phone. I figured it would be better to get worked up about it in person at the dealership when I was actually standing in front of them and they had no choice but to listen to me so they couldn't brush me off like they could on a phone call. My intent was to go to pick the truck up when it was done and raise hell in person about them charging me $1,000 to fix a "known issue" when the truck is barely past the 36,000-mile warranty limit. So I drove the loaner car back to the dealership the next day (or whenever it was...a day or two), walked into the service center and the lady handed me the bill that had all the itemized repairs listed out, which came to a little over $1,000, and next to "amount owed" it said $0. She told me GM took care of it and I was good to go. Gave me the keys and off I went...I didn't even have to cause a scene. Haven't had any problems with the truck since...although now at nearly 100,000 miles the little screen on the OEM radio is starting to fail, but the radio still functions. And one of the speakers recently died. But other than minor stuff like that, which is easily fixed by myself, I've had no problems at all with the truck. Your car was further out of warranty than my truck was at the time I had my issue, which is certainly something that has to be considered, but I think an important aspect of both cases is that the issues were KNOWN, MAJOR PROBLEMS to both manufacturers. And the fact that Tesla had already "fixed" the system on your car that eventually failed entirely makes this much worse IMO. They could've replaced your compressor during the recall, but instead they probably just put a Band-Aid on it...and I'm willing to bet they were just hoping that the entire compressor would hold on long enough for your warranty to end. That way they wouldn't have to pay to replace the entire thing like they would have if your car WAS still under warranty. And Tesla sure won, didn't they? The compressor held on long enough for them to steal over $2,300 from you, rather than them having to eat that cost themselves. They got you good...but something tells me you're the type of fella whose next new vehicle will probably be another Tesla anyway.
I had a 1986 GM car. I ended up knowing the mechanic on a first name basis. I would call, and he’d say “the GM again”, and I said “of course”, I traded it in for a 1990 Camry, and have never known another mechanic’s name since. We recycled every Camry through every young driver, until about the 300,000 mile range. All were extremely reliable, when old, rode hard and put away wet by college students. Yet, every time you put the key in, they run. (unless you never change the oil or get a new battery and new tires😁) And that’s why we buy Toyota’s. They aren’t the flashiest work horses, but they are so reliable and last so long, they become like family. Hard to see them go (we name them by size and color). Right now the Prius C is little blue and the Tundra is big red. They have different purposes, and they faithfully fulfill every request, without any problems, at all.
The ECU is the engine control module. This has 8 year, 80,000 mile federal emission coverage. They should have told you this rather than letting you think that they did this as goodwill.
I keep driving my Lexus, dealer a few miles away from my house. Ten years, never ever gives me any problems. Both Lexus and 2010 and a 2013, tires, breaks, gas and some maintaining…. Love them
Yep. 3 Lexuses in my household. Our 2008 RX350 just hits 160k miles and costed me less than $3k over the last 15 years in repair/maintenance. My 2017 ES350 had not a single issue. Just bought a new NX350h a few money ago.
Insurance companies in the U.K. are refusing to insure Teslas due to the cost to repair simple fender benders, and the problems storing and working on the cars.
I'm guessing you heard that someplace. In the U.S. it cost the same, generally;except when you get gouged by the shop. Some shops assume you can afford more if you have a T. Most insurance companies love to insure Teslas because every model has the highest safety rating on the planet, especially model S and Model X which use airplane quality materials for the frame. Also because the battery is bottom heavy it's nearly, nearly impossible to rollover in an accident. More people survive and even walk away without a scratch from some very 'unsurvivable' accidents; the Tesla actually saved their life. I'm saying that I wish I would have written down the many stories I heard from ppl in accidents that came back into our Tesla dealership to buy another, after their old Tesla was totalled. Two elderly sisters who were T-boned by a drunk driver grateful to be alive because of their Model X. A guy who fell asleep driving went off a ramp in Los Angeles, walked away. A family of 5 whose driver, a doctor drove off a cliff in Malibu intentionally and he with his family survived. A couple who were on the Los Angeles 10 Freeway at night, poor visibility and a black Mercedes was stalled (parked) in the center lane they were coming at about 70 mph and didn't have time to stop, but the Tesla slammed on it's brakes after the car in front of them veered around the stalled vehicle which wasn't visible until that car swerved. They slammed into the back of the stalled car. They were walking into our dealership to buy another since, that Tesla was totaled but saved their lives. I could go on and on with these stories told to me by first hand witnesses. A Tesla needs little to no repair maintenance, generally speaking; all car factories on the planet can put out a bad part or something, but the Warranty is awesome. Shop for insurance. Also the car has a monitoring and rating system built in for drivers to evaluate speed, unsafe passing and so forth which lowers your insurance cost if you keep a good driver rating. Tesla is a unique driving experience, no longer a 'luxury' car but for many drivers, it's actually a money saver!
Any time an EV has been in a collision, there is a high risk of compromised battery integrity. It is difficult to identify damaged batteries that will ultimately self-combust. The problems with storing EVs is that the damaged batteries self-combust consuming everything in flames (repair shop, other vehicles, and all shop equipment). With regard to Tesla's, their batteries are integral to the frame of the vehicle and involve extensive labor and time to remove and replace. Three days ago, an EV parked in a garage at Rosemont, IL, shopping mall burst into flames.
@@dudley269 All those incidents are probably more because of luck than any other reason, and what about the people in the other vehicles hit by these behemoths? I believe you will find insurance on those vehicles will become more and more expensive as more of them get on the road, and reality sets I'm. I hope, for the sake of all those who fell for it, that isn't the case, but I have neither the desire, or the finances, to buy one of those.
Thus is very true but I have noticed that's the case with many modern vehicles not just ev. Nissan is absolutely horrible on that one this also falls true on the transmissions. So many poor quality vehicles now days is just crazy to see the amount of broke down vehicles during summer on the side of the highway.
57000 miles is not uncommon. They don’t build like they used to. My Suzuki compressor failed around that mileage. Should have been covered by warranty, but Suzuki pulled out of the country and left many of the owners high and dry.
@@alexp.6406 I have. So I looked up the cost for a heat pump replacement on a Mercedes and Google is saying it's around $1,700. It's $1,600 for a Toyota, so you're really not saving much. This guy says he negotiated a 50% discount, so it would have cost him around $4,600 instead of $2,300.
As a BMW/Benz driver I always trade my cars in a few months to a year before the warranty expires, learned my lesson years ago, just past warranty they never fail to act up
Same here. My wife’s 2015 328i transmission went out 5k miles after warranty. BMW actually stepped up and covered the $8k repair. We got rid of the car right after.
Nothing to brag about. While you lessen the risk of getting stranded, you pay through the nose with those enternal car payments, sucking up the depreciation.
ehh i beg to differ from many owners. I’ve had 16 total German cars with no issues. Currently have a w212 with 166k miles, a 328i with 120k miles with the early N20 with no issues at all.
My 2021 Model 3 Performance heat pump went out at 13,000 miles. Took Tesla about 4 days to repair. Basically they just pulled the old out and put in a brand new pump. On a side note: I noticed you mentioned AAA. If you have the top membership, I think you would have been covered to tow the distance. If not, then at least the first 100 miles for no charge, then work out the rest. If I were tasked with paying $700 plus to go 2 hours away, I would have rented a U-Haul pickup for $19.95/day plus the $.079/mile, and a U-Haul car hauler for another $65.00. That would have run about $275.00 round trip. Just an idea!
Exactly the options that I was thinking. U-Haul on long hauls can be expensive because of per-mile pricing. Plus, those trucks are not really fuel-efficient. I would add 60-80$ fuel cost to the estimate. The worst part is you have to do the work and spend time to drive there and back. AAA top-tier membership on the other hand is a good option. In my area, AAA says 200mile towing is free. I would just get a yearly subscription. It has other benefits as well.
Hey, yeah, I had not thought of that. I just commented another idea as well, and that was to have scheduled the car to be delivered with a car transport company. Since he had the time and they could drive the car to get it on the transport... I had a car I purchased out of state, 350 miles away, had it delivered for ..under $380 bucks, from the dealership to my driveway.
I owned a Model S for 5 years, one year out of warranty. It cost me a couple grand in expenses in that one year and it felt like things kept breaking every few months so I dumped it.
@RUHappyATM-- I was watching Internet Dude's channel when he was having many problems with his Tesla. His videos convinced me not to buy an EV. He ended up buying a Lexus, and a beautiful 2007 Lincoln Town Car. I have a 2002 Town Car that I bought in 2007 for $11,750. More than 16 years and about 100,000 miles later, it has never let me down. Yes, I have had to make a few repairs, but it has been the most economical car I have ever owned, and still rides like a dream.
This is great, honest, down to earth content. I've not made the jump from ICE (BMW 2 SERIES 2016, 72K miles) Ireland, to BEV yet due to infrastructure issues, cost and range anxiety but I congratulate you on your reasonable attitude and fair conclusions. Great content. Thank you. 😊
The big problem here is not the EV, but that Tesla is like Apple and keeps everything proprietary and never shares any technical documents so nobody other than Tesla can fix anything so they can charge whatever they feel like and you can't go anywhere else and depending on where you live it can months.
Ev cars on a whole are trash , good luck when you run over a rock or log on the road , damage the skid pan and the garage refuse to service it , and quote you for a complete battery pack at £20k
I have owned a 2023 MYLR for about 7 months. We have put roughly 7,000 miles on it. I have been incredibly disappointed with it. I am also in the midwest and the range is abysmal in the cold weather. Yesterday with temps below 0 it used 150% more range than the estimate. I drove 57 actual miles, and it consumed 142 miles of range. That was in chill mode and limiting my HVAC use as much as possible. The excessive energy consumption has been consistent with temps at or below freezing, typically it is 50-60% more range; but 150%?! That's insane. The other problem is that I have a time of use energy plan and rates are determined by demand. With the cold weather energy prices are higher, so the excessive energy use is costing me far more to charge. Also, after taking delivery my car spent a week at the body shop to correct the factory paint issues. I will be hopefully trading it in within the next couple of days. I have been on the waitlist for the CyberTruck, but I will never own a Tesla again. I think now that more of these are in the hands of people that aren't fanboys or getting paid to hype these things, average people will start giving real opinions about them. The fact you had a major and expensive HVAC issue on a car that has 57k miles on it, had a massive towing bill, and you are still suggesting that others buy these things is ridiculous.I have had numerous vehicles that I have put over 100k miles on and all I have done is routine maintenance. I certainly have never replaced HVAC components at 60k miles. I'm sure that you're getting some sort of incentive by sharing your link, plus the ad revenue from your videos. The average owner isn't going to have those benefits to make up for costly repairs.
I have a 2002 Honda Civic Lx with ~135k miles. Clean and drives well. I was *very close to financing a Tesla Y a week or so ago but have decided to wait, save up and cash flow my dream hybrid vehicle. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Hmmm id stick with Honda my car is a 1994 accord one owner and everything still works on it I've done the Timing belt and the brakes and a radiator Iv drove it now b130 000 miles it now has 220 000 miles on it an older person owned it before me 😅
Sorry to see your situation. I needed a super reliable car here in Australia and went for the Japanese Built Mitsubishi ICE with 10 Years Warranty , 10 Years Fixed Price Servicing and Roadside Assist .
My Mitsubishi Galant had a bad steering rack and the air suspension system crapped out ($1,900 to fix.. no aftermarket parts available). I finally got rid of it when it kept leaving me stranded and no-one could fix the problem. When I switched over to Honda I never looked back.
I'm surprised, with all of Tesla's sophistication, the car just didn't "phone home" when it set that code and the company didn't proactively notify you right away that it needed repairs, instead of you having to verify.
Tesla has/had a problem with early heatpumps. I had the same issue with my 2021 Model Y. Just 1,500 miles out of warranty. They goodwilled the parts and I paid the labor after complaining as well. Total then was $3500...I paid $1000. I'm going to guess ALL early models with the heatpump will go bad because they all got damaged by incorrect software running the supermanifold valves, causing rapid wear in the compressor which sends metal through the system. This is why the lines and supermanifold need to be replaced as well. This happened about 35k miles ago for me. It's been fine ever since. I live in central Minnesota.
So is this something that can be requested before warranty runs out? Since it’s becoming a common repair for these models in 2020/21? My 21MYLR has 25k was purchased at non Tesla so no extended warranty for me to buy but now think I need to budged 2500$ for this repair looming…
Thank You very much for sharing your experienced. The car had dropped from almost $59,900 in November 2023 down to $37,890 Tesla Y Long Range as of today. There was something wrong with the price when it had started out with. Price has dropped in a fast speed. The new Tesla Y is cheaper than to buy a used one in 2023. We went to Tesla Repair Center due to the wheel cracked less than 10 months (Tesla offer no warranty on tire and wheel). It cost us almost $400 for a new wheel rim. Tesla Repair Center when asked, said $255 an hour of labor on service. The car came with no spare tire. The only thing that tow truck will do, is hauling your Tesla away to nearest Shop Tire. It sure had ruined our trip. We wouldn't buy any vehicle from Tesla.
That sounds about right for a Toyota. Guy I work with has 638,000 miles on a 2005 Toyota Corolla. Never did anything but change the eral and the brakes once or twice
The amount of money you put in on fuel compared to the repair costs of a Tesla just doesn’t compare. It costs me $3.50 to charge at home and get 300 miles of range
@@grazz7865I’m not a tesla fan, but batteries are covered under warranty up to 8 years or 150k miles on a model Y. In those 8 years a Toyota 4Runner would use around $21k in fuel alone. Using US average of 14k miles per year and an average of $3.50 per gallon. That’s not including oil changes and or other maintenance required on an ICE
@@bigj7574 and electric is free? That same 4Runner engine could last the life of the vehicle if well maintained. It is not guaranteed to fail at some point like a lithium battery. And if it did fail, it might cost me $7,000-$8,000 to rebuild or replace the engine at which time I would see if it’s actually worth it.
Appreciate this video as my 2020 Model Y just got the same error message with no heat in the cabin. I couldn't get the repair scheduled till mid-January. I asked the KC Service Center if the car was safe to drive from Wichita to KC with a 15% Supercharge along the way and they said yes. They said heating and cooling the battery is independent of Cabin Climate Control. Fortunately I paid for the extended warranty since first year production on any car is likely to have more defects. I appreciate your videos, keep up the good work 🙂
Update: After a very cold (-9 degrees) drive to KC the Tesla Service Center replaced my compressor, supermanifold and some AC lines similar to your fix. Fortunately they did this in 5 hours on the same day I drove up so I had a warm drive home that night. The battery pack pre-conditioned and charged like normal at a Supercharger stop on the way up to KC. Hopefully these parts are an upgrade over the parts in my early Model Y, I don't want to replace them again in 65K miles.
As a retired consulting Electrical and Mechanical engineer, I was a consultant to architects in the design and construction of buildings for 52 years. During that time I saw a boatload of heating and cooling system failures. My wife and I have a 2020 Model 3 which does not have the heat pump system. Due to my experience with systems, I prefer the non-heat pump, resistance-type heating in our Tesla. The old saying is " You can't buy non-sh*t happening insurance anymore, they quit selling it" It appears to me that since you can afford two Model Y's, you can afford to pay for a paltry 2 - 3 grand. Perhaps you might consider doing a video that discusses the amount of money you have saved having the Tesla vehicles and how much will be saved in the future. PN
Good to point - Tesla's aren't maintenance-free and while the cost seems high, it's probably the same as "regular maintenance" (transmission fluids, oil, etc.) for a regular car. The biggest concern won't be these "smaller" costs but rather future battery replacement costs - I was told it's around $16k which is worrisome. Other inevitable costs to also consider - cracks in the windshield is around $1000 and the roof around $2000. While the experience is great, this very much reminds me of "boutique" cars like a Mini - weeks to get service instead of a few days/same day. Hopefully this improves over time.
Good video. Thank you for sharing your experience. I have a 2023 Model Y LR (built in Austin late Jan 2023); It's my 3rd Tesla. It's my understanding that the AC/heatpump compressor is an integral part of the car's battery management system. ICE cars don't need an air conditioner to operate, only to keep the cabin comfortable. Without the AC/heatpump compressor, a Tesla (and most other modern EVs) would likely experience very slow charging rate at a DC fast-charger due to the battery getting too hot (the car would significantly throttle back charging rate to protect the battery). Any kind of driving that would heat up the battery and drive train (like high speed highway driving or long periods of re-gen such as going downhill on a mountain road) or hot weather would also result in the battery getting too hot since the battery management system would be unable to help cool the battery without the AC/heatpump compressor. I live in Texas and, for me, a functioning AC compressor is a must regardless if ICE or EV. In a modern EV, an AC compressor is essential to the operation of the battery/drivetrain.
I feel your pain. I had my Tesla fully breakdown due to an electrical issue a few months ago while driving back to CO from IA. Tesla service center said a mouse had chewed the wires but when I asked for pictures the pictures clearly show wires being melted not chewed. Also the Tesla repair person said.. "whats odd is the rodent shield is not chewed through so I am not sure how the mouse chewed the wires". Regardless they stood their ground and made me pay for the repairs which with towing was almost over a grand. Very shady to say the least.
My 2008 Lexus ES350 with 210k is running perfect. I think it's worth about $5k and after viewing this video, it put the kibosh on my plans to trade it in. I honestly can't afford a rich man's problems.
I work for a windshield replacement company here in Nova Scotia and we have to put teslas into service mode to replace the windshield. It’s 4 hrs and two or three guys working on it to complete the job.
I had a daytime running light strip in one headlight go out, Tesla first quoted me around 2k, then after I complained, they said it was a known issue with a tsb, and they then lowered it to 900$. I do love the car, but from what I have personaly experianced, and what other owners have said as well.....most repairs are way overpriced, and almost always take a long time to have the work completed.
That's where Tesla and all dealers make their money. The more they sell, the more they can repair. And with Tesla and other EVs it's proprietary service, so nobody else can do it. They tell you $2k, you complain, they cut it in half, and make you feel good about spending $1k on a headlight repair.
After reliability issues and expensive repair bills on numerous vehicles (and not on others), I decided that any vehicle I buy has to have a J at the beginning of the VIN number. That's the best warranty I've ever bought. It works for motorcycles and cars. Trust me. I've been around.
I love Japanese reliability! My 2007 Yamaha YZF-600R sport bike has 89,000 miles on it so far. Only have had to replace normal items. Brake Pads, Clutch and Throttle Cables, Fuel Filter, and I'm still on my 2nd OEM chain/sprocket set. Chain Wax makes a HUGE difference in chain and sprocket wear! 👍
Outstanding, especially on the chain and sprocket wear. I routinely pushed all my bikes well north of 100000 miles before buying my next motorcycle. Lots of other companies do the same, but you find out that lots of them have been partially rebuilt along the way. 👍
In the past, I have owned out-of-warranty Jaguars and Mercedes and in comparison, these Tesla prices seem very reasonable. For example on the Jaguar on multiple occasions, the turn signal would go out and a flashing warning showed up on the 4" info screen, instead of a new $10 bulb it was always the module that monitored the bulb and always cost > $1,000 this was 20 years ago. .
@@iowatesla You had $700 in towing which should be included in your total cost of repair. Also the cost of you and your wife driving 4hours as part of the repair process. Glad you had another model Y you could use. There was an old joke about Jags - they recommended you buy 2 since they were so unreliable. We would be a good use case for a Tesla. Retired and drive around 100 miles a week.I drove a model 3 and I loved it. I could consider one if they could improve the build quality and reduce the inconvenience and expense of owning one. Enjoyed the video and Appreciate your honest reporting of your experience.
I've had two brand new Honda Civics and a brand new Toyota Rav4 Prime with heat pump. I've never had any significant issues costing several thousands of dollars to fix in the first 3 years of the car, much less over 15 and 20 years for the Civics. My Rav4 Prime is 3 years old now and 60k miles. Drives like a dream, and never had any issues. I was thinking about the model Y, but now, I'm not so sure.
Wait until the drive unit or a batt module goes. We sold ours after the warranty was up for this reason. The heat pump on our Model Y went out in the middle of Death Valley going from NorCal to Tennessee.
It only takes one time to bail on EVs. My neighbor got swindled into buying a dual motor X. Out of warranty everything started happening. He's had to pay nearly $8k so far on repairs and still no battery issues. He's pissed.
I am going to keep my old Toyota Camry. Last year all I did was an oil change, and that was it. It's nice to have a car that doesn't eat you alive and take your hard-earned money because EV's are so new they are still in the experimental phase and using unsuspecting people as guinea pigs.
Love my “combustion engine” car, Works great! It’s been in the single digits, car starts, has heat, my car locator will Not set off an alarm, the resale value of my car actually holds its value. My Mercedes also has 74,000 miles and all I’ve done is change the oil and had to buy tires. And I can drive to as long as I want in 24 hours with only stopping for 8 minutes long enough to fill my gas tank!!!!!
I have this same error message on my out of warranty 2020 Model Y 😬 So far my heat still works fine. I've been out of town for the holidays so my appointment isn't until Jan 8. Now I know what to expect.
Hertz is selling its entire Tesla fleet over the next few months. The reason is maintenance costs and parts availability. According to Hertz it equivalent body damage costs 4x as much in a Tesla vs GM, Ford or Chrysler. Parts were very hard to get from Tesla and they would be back ordered weeks to months. The cars sitting in lots waiting for parts could not earn money and time is money.
Also for anybody still thinking these Teslas are tempting… most of them were rented out to Uber and Lyft drivers, so they have more wear and tear than average used rentals.
I want to add something to that. I don’t know why you have two Teslas but if it’s for saving the environment, Iowa State produces its electricity from multiple source but sadly, 55% of it comes from non renewable energies.
I have a 2020 MSLR+ and just had my first major repair. The suspension bushings needed to be replaced and it was almost $1,800. Then my half shafts were found to be warn and they gave me a great deal of only charging me for parts ($375). Either way, over 2k in fixes always sucks on a car that you hope doesn’t have a lot of maintenance costs as they suggest. I do have nearly 90k miles on it, so I consider that a win all things considered.
All things considered, $ 2,175 in repairs/maintenance given 90,000 miles is inexpensive compared to a typical ICE vehicle. Still, I can see how it's disappointing.
@@Elaba_ That depends on how accessible parts are, doesn't it? I mean, for my old car, you're talking about maybe $50 worth of bushings. The ball joints would be another $30 per wheel if they have play in them and the CV axles about $50 each for a good quality replacement. Then maybe half a day of my time replacing that stuff, but on my 20 year old daily driver that stuff doesn't need replacing and I'm almost double the mileage you listed. And that's the advantage of having an aftermarket for parts, sometimes they even improve on the original parts.
I have a 2020 MYLR SN ~5800. Last year, the car had an issue with cabin heating (which I almost never use (FL)). Tesla didn't ask any questions and replaced the compressor, octovalve, many other parts under warranty. I suspect that the early heat pumps had some sort of weakness. I'm surprised yours lasted so long, in IA, not that this helps you of course. Thank you for the video and all the others.
sounds like the heat pump/compressor had grenaded internally/mechanically. Usually when a compressor grenades it sends "shrapnel" or debris throughout the system and thats why the supermanifold and lines had to be replaced. if they had just replaced the compressor youd be sending debris throughout the system again and the new compressor would soon grenade as well
Tesla should have a function that links your bank account on the computer display. This way they can immediately drain your bank account, while towing it away for repairs. I have a 2004 Toyota with V6 engine (110K miles). Zero problems.
In 2020 a Honda Civic would have cost you less and could still be driving it and get better MPG. Less cost to own!! My neighbor also purchased a Tesla in 2020 and traded in their Toyota Corolla that was a 2019. They looked at the 2020 Honda Civic but decided on the Tesla. The Tesla has been towed 7 times for various problems. The closest dealer is 90 minutes away. They got it back again last week running great and traded in for a 2023 Toyota Corolla!!!
Thanks for sharing this even though it was hard to make. If it makes you feel better my BMW needed a new turbo charger at 57k miles, which cost $5,500. It wasn’t even a new turbo, it was reconditioned. Hopefully my 2023 Y has the newer equipment you now have.
@@Chuckk12I’d say that’s a solid statement for any luxury vehicle these days. My old Audi A8L cost me so much money when out of warranty that I regretted not selling it before it expired. Expensive lesson, for sure.
Thanks for that add! Some people will probably use this video as proof(in their minds) that Tesla’s are money pits, when in actuality, as you described, and I’m easily aware, this can and has happened to all manner of cars, ICE cars included. My only issue in this video was the $700 towing estimate given by Tesla. Ouch! Than goodness he had AAA! Two good takeaways from this video: Buy the extended warranty, and have a good roadside service contract with a high towing limit.
Had the same error code on my two week old ‘23 MY. No AC in the FL summer. Had to replace the compressor. This can affect newer models too. Luckily, mine was still under warranty.
I have to conmend you for making the video. Some people would have swept this under the rug. You don't see ICE owner's making a video about a major part breaking. They make a big deal about EV's why, to bring them down. Yes, it was expensive, but not all parts last for ever. I am glad you honest.
Because ICE cars don't break down like EV. Had my last car 10 years had over 500,000km and all I ever replaced was tyres, brake pads and windscreen wiper blades. EV are not supposed to have any problems and yet here we are. Guy does 1.2million miles in a Tesla, brags about it like he has accomplished something, tells you he had to replace the battery 4 times and motors 14 times. I know ICE taxis that do 1.5 million miles and only replaced 2 gear boxes.
Since starting to drive in 1994 I haven’t had a major breakdown on my cars or trucks. I got out of Nissan before I had two with CVT’s that were on their way out. I’m a Toyota loyal customer now, they haven’t been back to the dealer for anything. I do my own maintenance.
@Bikes0420Not a troll. I have 2007 Toyota Camry XLE, 2018 Toyota Tundra Unlimited. I have two EV's also. I am not bias but I get sick of people throwing EV's under the bus.
Wow, I have recently seen tons of videos where people say electric cars have no related costs. This is crazy, the heater goes out and the whole car is basically inoperable.
Tesla is the best American made car you can get. It’s just that you can forget about self repair and that is a problem as most of us don’t have dealership money for repairs. Most of just barely have shade tree mechanic money for repairs.
I feel ya and I’m glad that’s behind you! I have a similar model that I purchased used @20k (currently @33K). I usually don’t buy extended warranties, but I did this time because I didn’t know what I was getting myself into this being my first experience with an EV. Watching this makes me feel that I made the right choice. Thanks for sharing!
My 2nd car a 29 year old Toyota never had a single failure in the 23 years I owned it as a daily driver. AC compressor still working fine. Yes, its 29 years old with only regular service.
I'm willing to bet the condensors got clogged with debris and overheated. The air vent on the bumper allows road debris(leaves, dirt, rocks) to enter into the area where the radiators reside. It's accessible by removing the frunk, and you then have access to a black cover that sits on top of the radiators. Without removing the front bumper you are only able to remove a few bolts from the cover and pull it back, but it gives you enough room to see inside the radiator area and vacuum debris out with a shop vac. Our 2021 Model 3 that we just traded in was absolutely covered with debris inside at 60k miles, I was shocked. I think we got lucky. We installed a mesh grill off of amazon to prevent large debris from getting in our new Model Y.
Many of my coworkers bought Tesla. I told them that the money they save on gas gonna be spending elsewhere. They laughed at me because I'm driving a 23 yr old Acura. I only pay $40 every fill up and thats with the premium gas every 2 weeks.
Extended warranty doesn't cover collision damage, which is what happened when those EVs drove over road debris. It's up to the collision insurance to determine if the vehicle is worth repairing or writing off.
Y'all are sitting around feeling sorry for this guy, while I'm taking a moment to appreciate the service mode detail this guy got on his own screen. Got to appreciate the little things people.
No difference to my ICE car being out of warranty by 6 months, and the cam chain skipped causing head damage, total cost £2500. Two months later clutch failure. £400.😫. Good video.🙌👍
Bought my Tesla model Y long range with 67K used. The prior owner said that the suspension bushings were replaced at around a cost of 1500. After a lot of thinking I decided to go ahead and do a four year X care protection plan with a $500 deductible. granted in most cases, the house wins, but I plan to keep the car for a while and it’s just good peace of mind, maybe expensive peace of mind, but instances like this make me think that I did the right thing. my Tesla is built in October 20 20 and is listed as a model year 21. I would definitely buy another Tesla. In fact, I’d love to move to a performance model at some point thank you for the great content. Keep it up!
Stupid is as stupid does, NO SYMPATHY!! My 2016 4runner hasn't cost me a dime since buying it new (aside from brake pads and oil changes), even the battery is original!! Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
You can’t beat a four runner for reliability… probably the best car Toyota makes, as they say “ smart is a smart does and stupid is as stupid does” 😂. I finally got smart and traded in my 2009 Mercedes for a Toyota Highlander 2012 model two years ago …best thing I ever did. Cheers from southern calif… where there are more Teslas than you can shake a stick at in this town, and every time I see one , I laugh.
I had to have my car towed 34 miles 2 weeks ago. total cost of tow was 398.00 dollars honestly 700 wasn’t bad for that distance. For reference I live on eastern Long Island where everything is overpriced.
Bought my 06' Honda Civic brand new in 05', 18 years later my all my heating still working, rear defroster, front windshield defroster, feet defroster, everything works and the heating is instant😂 engine and transmission still hit the top speed every day without any issues 😂 MSRP for my car $15,800 paid cash. My brother is an engineer and he can buy any luxury car he wants he has a 2016 Civic bought it brand new, 7 years later the only thing that broke was that his battery died and he had to replace his original tires 😂😂😂 and that's it. Cost of GoodYear 60,000 mile warranty tires for a Civic $59(each) on sale😂
Big business thinks of people as sheep, it's easy to steer people in the direction you want, with just a few persuasive claims about EV's. ... Foolish people are followers. ... big business winners, no matter what it does to the consumer..don't fall for the bait !
There are times when Tesla is just like the legacy builders. I remember a friend of mine got a Jetta and when she drove it for a over ten minutes and then park it, the vehicle would not start again until it sat for awhile. Then it would start up like there was no issue, but the problem would happen again and again. When she got it the dealer for service, they knew exactly what the issue was. The dealer to her VW sells a wire kit that will replace the wire that goes from the starter past the exhaust manifold to the battery with a heat shield wrapped wire so that the exhaust manifold heat would not overheat the wire. Apparently, when a wire gets too hot, it does not conduct electricity. This cost her $500, mostly labor in that cost, and it was fixed. For me, I was wondering why if VW knew this was an issue and they had designed the car, built the car, why did they not fix it for free? They designed and built a vehicle with a clear flaw. I am going to guess they figured it out quickly, because there was no major recall, but her car was bought off the dealership, two year old used with around 50,000 miles, so she was stuck. This was before the whole certified used thing was common. Point is, i hate when builders know of a design issue that is costly to the consumer and just leave it for the consumer to deal with the cost.
@@iowateslaThe case is a normal situation with average price for similar repairs in any car. I paid the same in an ICE car. Granted in my case in happened at 180000 miles. I still believe that your car failure was premature at 55000 miles. Your concern is valid: do you need to repeat the same repair at 110000 miles? Hopefully the replacement equipment will last longer. I had to replace a valve at that pump in Chrysler Pacifica eHybrid PHEV at 70000 miles but was covered under original factory warranty.
I have 2 hybrid vehicles, I get around 53mpg on one and 42 on the other one, where fuel cost is pretty close to EV charging but reliability and convenience are way better.
I had this exact issue at 27,000km and the exact repair done. This was at the time (Jan 2022) there were multiple HVAC failures and an investigation was done by NHSTA and Transport Canada. I checked my invoice and they replaced the super manifold, compressor and lines. Currently my car has 103,000km and all is well. I have a feeling that your unit should have been replaced at the time of all these other failures as it was probably a design flaw that was sorted with the newer units. I own a May2021 build Model Y.
My gut tells me that this is a weak point in early Model Y's. The heat pump was a new development for them. It did technically last longer than the warranty and they have every right to charge me - even if the part was not robust. Thanks for watching!
Tesla has its benefits. Only good short ranges. Cross state lines having to charge a few hours at a time is a waste of time. Still a nice car that need more infrastructure around potential issues
They are almost maintenance-free. (Even more so now than the 2013 Model S that I've got). But they are not repairs-free. "Stuff breaks" is what Tesla Service wanted to say to you but they can't say that 😊 Also had a cabin heater fail during a Christmas roadtrip and was driving it from northern CA to central TX during below-freezing conditions. Fond memories now, but not an experience I'd want to repeat!
The big lie - they are no where near maintenance free - coolant changes, HVAC desiccant service, break fluid changes, tires, rotations, brake pads, cabin filters, wiper blades, etc. All of these when done by Tesla will far exceed the costs of oil changes and routine maintenance of say a Toyota.
@@markmonroe7330 buddy you and your Toyota-loving internet quarterback opinions just walked into quicksand. I have a 2013 Model S which I've owned since new and it now has 274,000 miles on it. I speak with authority on what maintenance is needed, and what things have broken on my car and needed to get fixed. Your post is largely baloney. What would you like to learn about that you currently don't know? Just ask. There are no brake fluid changes, you change the cabin air filter yourself and it's a standard auto industry part which Tesla will sell you for $9.87 or it's $19.95 at AutoZone. You replace the cabin air filter, windshield wipers, wiper fluid and tires JUST THE SAME as any car - electric or fossil. Tesla isn't any different. If you want to pay a vendor/dealer money to do that, it's up to you - electric or fossil. Or you can do it yourself. I get the wheels rotated to balance tire wear at Discount Tire... it's free. I would say the car has been very reliable considering the miles. Only broke down twice. (battery issue fixed under warranty @ 115,000 miles, body controller module replaced at 270,000 miles for $1,300) It's on its second set of brakes. Original parts lasted until 188,000 miles. The current set will last longer I expect, because I now drive it more gently than I used to and don't press the brake pedal as much! Modern Teslas are expected to last a lot longer as, since they built my car, Tesla have had 10yrs to improve longevity. "Toyota" on the other hand, sell cars that NEED MAINTENANCE. They sell cars that KEEP dealership service departments IN BUSINESS. Maintaining fossil cars is the main source of profit for dealerships. (Selling new cars comes in a distant second) This is why Toyota is so far behind on BEV. Their U.S. dealers are telling them they do not want to sell BEVs - even if they're what customers want. Before you claim "Toyota customers do not want BEV" - consider that the world's best-selling car is no longer the fossil-fuel-burning Toyota Corolla. It's a BEV.
@@MartinGalway Most all the maintenance on a Model S is the same as a non-EV as you clearly show above. That said my 320,000 3/4 truck and 280,000 Toyota are both on the orginal factory brake pads/rotors. Hate that yours wore out so soon.
@@markmonroe7330 my car is supposed to be a performance sedan, so... its brakes lasted longer than any other, I would think! Trucks are probably different
thanks for this video it was very educational. sorry to hear you had to go through this and spend that much money. but as with any mechanical equipment things breakdown. now I will consider the extended warranty on my 2022 Model Y. great job with your video very well done thanks again
You are a very nice guy. If I had to put $3,000 into my 3 year old, 57k mile vehicle, I’d be much crankier (pissed). I used to oversee a fleet of 20 Ford SUV’s that ran day and night. Never had to put that much money into any of these ICE vehicles under 100k miles.
Good to know. I am close to a service center, maybe 12 miles away. Plus, Southern California winter is quite mild. But, an extended warranty might be a really good idea, considering how expensive the repairs from Tesla seem to be.
![[ ออกกอง ] วัยหนุ่ม 2544 โลกหลังลูกกรง..ทัวร์กองถ่ายหนังใน "คุกของจริง" | JUSTดูIT.](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vB--aOkZCpw/mqdefault.jpg)
One thing I've learned about Teslas and luxury vehicles is that they're meant for people who finance new, or lease new, and sell after warranty.
Get out after the gettin was gud.
That's how it works with all new cars.
@@user-lu3nn5ly3f Obvious lies don't make the point you think they do. They just show that you're not to be trusted.
Mostly German cars!@@therealctoo4183
@@user-lu3nn5ly3f $25K EV 😆 dream on mate
As a former HVAC tech, my guess is that the compressor had a mechanical breakdown that led to debris circulating through the refrigeration lines. This would be the main reason to replace the AC lines. The original estimate was pretty much in line with what other manufacturers would charge to replace similar equipment, but the supermanifold added a lot of complexity and cost. I think your video just sold some extended warranties.
Yup, im getting an extended warranty for sure now lol.
I think you're right... and Tesla should give me commission on the extended warranty sales... :) Thanks for watching!
The HVAC system is what I worry about most out of warranty
@@eddevoe2519You should.
@@JetFire9 I am refrigeration tech and owner myself.
I drive a 33 year old car that has working heated seats & HVAC system. No downtime because of charging, no software updates and only 3 control modules... ECM, ABS & cruise control. I love it!
Ecm,ABS has saved millions of lives, so you're lucky 😅
This boomer has a 33 year old car that is completely MAINTENANCE FREE!
Truly incredible.
@Del_987 pretty much. In the last 6 years, nothing but oil changes. Plugs, air filter, brakes etc. all have been fine. Why would you want to buy an EV at $40k+ (USD) when you will NEVER recoup the "savings" of cost of fuel. LOL
Keep it long enough and you need a battery worth more than the car is worth. LOL
Yeah, trade it in for a new EV... and scrap the old one. Who's polluting more now?
@@funnyguy1487 they recycle the battery and don't give two fucks about environment . I like fast quiet cars with 20 in tvs in them duh!
@@funnyguy1487 that 40 plus k ev will smoke everything under 100k lol boomer. Even the model 3 dose 0-60 in 4 seconds. some of us want to have fun and don't care about oil or the planet lol. i am just don't with 90 bucks at the pump i know that much.
It’s insane how these cars aren’t that old and have so many issues. So glad I still have my 1992 car with no issues .
New normal man, all these expenses are new normal
@alexanderkennedy2969you get what you vote for 🤷 if you don’t want this to continue then vote different.
@alexanderkennedy2969 same for me but 2020 since I wasn’t old enough in 2016. The current nation surprisingly reminds me of California where the majority of the country vote red (like the majority of California), but the few places with so many people vote liberal and ruin it.
2015 Mazda, 159 k miles nothing but brakes oil changes. Tires. find me a Tesla with 150,000 miles with the same battery and drive electric motors. It will never happen. They are junk. Most Teslas become paper weights after five years 75,000 miles if you go on the out of warranty tesla forums you’ll want to kill yourself. Some of these people are regular blue-collar people cabdrivers etc who bought Teslas for $50,000 thinking it would save them so much money on gas then the battery goes up and it’s $25,000 to repair
My diesel car with particle filter from 2006 is incredible reliable
I just sold my 2018 Model 3 Performance after buying a new Model Y. It has 97,500 miles and has no significant issues since the warranty expired. Those that want to use anecdotal stories about their gas cars not having issues, well, here's my anecdotal story about one with very few problems. :)
Another anecdote: A friend with a 2020 GMC Terrain with 90,000 miles that has been religiously maintained with service records needs a new engine at a quoted cost for a rebuilt engine of $10,000. Cars break. Sometimes at inopportune times.
Sorry for trouble, but troubles are just starting, we stopped dealing with them, we sold ours
So what are you driving now?
@@pleemana carriage
@@rafusabr carriages are tight!
I am going to keep my old Toyota Camry. Last year all I did was an oil change, and that was it. It's nice to have a car that doesn't eat you alive and take your hard-earned money because EV's are so new they are still in the experimental phase and using unsuspecting people as guinea pigs.
What took you so long?!?
The words Tesla , reliability, and quality dont go together
Huh? 140 year of ICE still piece shit except Toyotas, even Chevrolet can’t even past 150k😂
Lmao😂😂😂
@@jq3mjqi546I've had more than one chevy go well over 200,000 miles with minimal maintenance. My brother had a Honda that went over 375,000 miles. EV apologists are pathetic.
@@jimfarmer7811 The only ICE vehicles I've had over 200,000 miles are Toyota Prius. My wife's love of trucks and F150 wasn't that great. My current little BMW i3 electric is at almost 100,000 miles and the "annual service" is filling up the windshield washer and changing the wiper blades. Every 3 years I bleed the brakes but apart from that 2 hour jaunt it's maintenance free so far. The maintenance schedule says 5 years for the brakes but I figure the brakes rarely get used so the fluid doesn't get a chance to get warm. I used to race cars (SCCA) so bleeding the brakes and understanding brake fluid and what works is second nature.
Yeah b/c one bad incident automatically negates all the other Tesla owners' good experiences. And I'm sure no other cars out there have ever needed repair after 50k miles.
This experience almost surely discouraged a bunch of people from buying a Tesla. It had that effect on me!
Me too! If the AC compressor on my Ford van breaks I can still drive the van. Go figure.
I have never considered buying any kind of EV and never will.
@@davidhouston5783 Never is a long time unless you're as old as I am, but EVs are not yet ready for general use. They need more time to deal with battery safety, charging time and driving range, and there need to be public chargers readily accessible throughout the country. While they're at it, cars need to be repairable again. Right now, all they can do is to replace entire modules or systems because they can't repair them.
That's good, less wait time for others who want one.
Depends on how long you live, who gets elected next 😂
I have watched many Tesla videos. I went from really wanting one, and attempting to justify the high cost, to being glad I kept my 2004 Buick Park Avenue. I keep the Buick in perfect condition. It has 145,000 miles drives, and runs perfectly.
Have a 2013 Scion tC, 160k miles on her, runs like a clock!
The range doesn't magically go down every time I fill up too.. cold doesn't cause my car to shit itself, unlike EVs.
Just look at Chicago 😁
I agree with you EV's are endless money pits and not fit for purpose!
2004? Christ. Treat yourself with a new car. You only live once. We could all buy old basic cars for next to nothing but some ppl like new cars. Why not go even further and sell your 2004 car and catch a bus everywhere and save more money and make life even more miserable
@@kygladdish2554 I have three vehicles. My Buick looks like new drives and drives the same way.
Keep the Buick!
It's amazing how close your situation is to a situation I had with my 2014 GMC Sierra 2500HD. At about 2,000 miles over the factory 36,000-mile warranty, my truck died on me and left me stranded on the side of the road. First time something like that has ever happened to me and I was NOT happy about it. Luckily I wasn't too far from home at the time, and I was not far from my buddy's towing company. Called him up and he sent a truck over to where I was and towed my Sierra to the nearest GM dealer.
My truck was out of warranty, but the dealer still gave me a loaner car, sent me home and told me they'd call me when they figured out what the problem was. They called me later that day, told me it was the ECU, which had fried itself and was a "known issue" with those trucks, and said it would be about $1,000 to fix it. I was pretty mad, and I let her know that, but I didn't get all worked up about it over the phone.
I figured it would be better to get worked up about it in person at the dealership when I was actually standing in front of them and they had no choice but to listen to me so they couldn't brush me off like they could on a phone call. My intent was to go to pick the truck up when it was done and raise hell in person about them charging me $1,000 to fix a "known issue" when the truck is barely past the 36,000-mile warranty limit.
So I drove the loaner car back to the dealership the next day (or whenever it was...a day or two), walked into the service center and the lady handed me the bill that had all the itemized repairs listed out, which came to a little over $1,000, and next to "amount owed" it said $0. She told me GM took care of it and I was good to go. Gave me the keys and off I went...I didn't even have to cause a scene. Haven't had any problems with the truck since...although now at nearly 100,000 miles the little screen on the OEM radio is starting to fail, but the radio still functions. And one of the speakers recently died. But other than minor stuff like that, which is easily fixed by myself, I've had no problems at all with the truck.
Your car was further out of warranty than my truck was at the time I had my issue, which is certainly something that has to be considered, but I think an important aspect of both cases is that the issues were KNOWN, MAJOR PROBLEMS to both manufacturers. And the fact that Tesla had already "fixed" the system on your car that eventually failed entirely makes this much worse IMO.
They could've replaced your compressor during the recall, but instead they probably just put a Band-Aid on it...and I'm willing to bet they were just hoping that the entire compressor would hold on long enough for your warranty to end. That way they wouldn't have to pay to replace the entire thing like they would have if your car WAS still under warranty. And Tesla sure won, didn't they? The compressor held on long enough for them to steal over $2,300 from you, rather than them having to eat that cost themselves. They got you good...but something tells me you're the type of fella whose next new vehicle will probably be another Tesla anyway.
Couldn't agree more
I had a 1986 GM car. I ended up knowing the mechanic on a first name basis. I would call, and he’d say “the GM again”, and I said “of course”, I traded it in for a 1990 Camry, and have never known another mechanic’s name since. We recycled every Camry through every young driver, until about the 300,000 mile range. All were extremely reliable, when old, rode hard and put away wet by college students. Yet, every time you put the key in, they run. (unless you never change the oil or get a new battery and new tires😁) And that’s why we buy Toyota’s. They aren’t the flashiest work horses, but they are so reliable and last so long, they become like family. Hard to see them go (we name them by size and color). Right now the Prius C is little blue and the Tundra is big red. They have different purposes, and they faithfully fulfill every request, without any problems, at all.
The ECU is the engine control module. This has 8 year, 80,000 mile federal emission coverage. They should have told you this rather than letting you think that they did this as goodwill.
I keep driving my Lexus, dealer a few miles away from my house. Ten years, never ever gives me any problems. Both Lexus and 2010 and a 2013, tires, breaks, gas and some maintaining…. Love them
Yep. 3 Lexuses in my household. Our 2008 RX350 just hits 160k miles and costed me less than $3k over the last 15 years in repair/maintenance. My 2017 ES350 had not a single issue. Just bought a new NX350h a few money ago.
They are cars built to last. 👍
Lexus are good cars I was a mechanic for 35 years you don't need to lift the hood very often on them! 👍👍👍👍
Insurance companies in the U.K. are refusing to insure Teslas due to the cost to repair simple fender benders, and the problems storing and working on the cars.
That surprises me. Insuring EV vehicles cost less here in Belgium, than their equivalent combustion engine cars, for the same car's price.
I'm guessing you heard that someplace. In the U.S. it cost the same, generally;except when you get gouged by the shop. Some shops assume you can afford more if you have a T. Most insurance companies love to insure Teslas because every model has the highest safety rating on the planet, especially model S and Model X which use airplane quality materials for the frame. Also because the battery is bottom heavy it's nearly, nearly impossible to rollover in an accident. More people survive and even walk away without a scratch from some very 'unsurvivable' accidents; the Tesla actually saved their life. I'm saying that I wish I would have written down the many stories I heard from ppl in accidents that came back into our Tesla dealership to buy another, after their old Tesla was totalled. Two elderly sisters who were T-boned by a drunk driver grateful to be alive because of their Model X. A guy who fell asleep driving went off a ramp in Los Angeles, walked away. A family of 5 whose driver, a doctor drove off a cliff in Malibu intentionally and he with his family survived. A couple who were on the Los Angeles 10 Freeway at night, poor visibility and a black Mercedes was stalled (parked) in the center lane they were coming at about 70 mph and didn't have time to stop, but the Tesla slammed on it's brakes after the car in front of them veered around the stalled vehicle which wasn't visible until that car swerved. They slammed into the back of the stalled car. They were walking into our dealership to buy another since, that Tesla was totaled but saved their lives. I could go on and on with these stories told to me by first hand witnesses. A Tesla needs little to no repair maintenance, generally speaking; all car factories on the planet can put out a bad part or something, but the Warranty is awesome. Shop for insurance. Also the car has a monitoring and rating system built in for drivers to evaluate speed, unsafe passing and so forth which lowers your insurance cost if you keep a good driver rating. Tesla is a unique driving experience, no longer a 'luxury' car but for many drivers, it's actually a money saver!
Any time an EV has been in a collision, there is a high risk of compromised battery integrity. It is difficult to identify damaged batteries that will ultimately self-combust. The problems with storing EVs is that the damaged batteries self-combust consuming everything in flames (repair shop, other vehicles, and all shop equipment). With regard to Tesla's, their batteries are integral to the frame of the vehicle and involve extensive labor and time to remove and replace. Three days ago, an EV parked in a garage at Rosemont, IL, shopping mall burst into flames.
No intelligent insurance company should insure these pieces of shit.
@@dudley269
All those incidents are probably more because of luck than any other reason, and what about the people in the other vehicles hit by these behemoths?
I believe you will find insurance on those vehicles will become more and more expensive as more of them get on the road, and reality sets I'm.
I hope, for the sake of all those who fell for it, that isn't the case, but I have neither the desire, or the finances, to buy one of those.
57,000 miles and the compressor is bad, that's insane!
Thus is very true but I have noticed that's the case with many modern vehicles not just ev. Nissan is absolutely horrible on that one this also falls true on the transmissions. So many poor quality vehicles now days is just crazy to see the amount of broke down vehicles during summer on the side of the highway.
Honda also had compressor issues lol…
57000 miles is not uncommon.
They don’t build like they used to.
My Suzuki compressor failed around that mileage. Should have been covered by warranty, but Suzuki pulled out of the country and left many of the owners high and dry.
Yep such a great car. Only cost $2,200 dollars to fix the heater. Absolutely insane.
Boys will be boys and fanbois will be fanbois.
and the time , stress, anxiety , hassle it brings. Imagine if you don't have any other car and you drive it to work.
Well these idiots wanted to be in the green culture so let them eat dirt
The kicker is you can't work on it. No dyi to save money here
@@alexp.6406 I have. So I looked up the cost for a heat pump replacement on a Mercedes and Google is saying it's around $1,700. It's $1,600 for a Toyota, so you're really not saving much. This guy says he negotiated a 50% discount, so it would have cost him around $4,600 instead of $2,300.
As a BMW/Benz driver I always trade my cars in a few months to a year before the warranty expires, learned my lesson years ago, just past warranty they never fail to act up
It happened with my first German car and that was my last German car
Same here. My wife’s 2015 328i transmission went out 5k miles after warranty. BMW actually stepped up and covered the $8k repair. We got rid of the car right after.
Nothing to brag about. While you lessen the risk of getting stranded, you pay through the nose with those enternal car payments, sucking up the depreciation.
@@joshuatran3667 nope my payments due to my credit score and credit union 1.5% apr lower than a Toyota
ehh i beg to differ from many owners. I’ve had 16 total German cars with no issues. Currently have a w212 with 166k miles, a 328i with 120k miles with the early N20 with no issues at all.
My 2021 Model 3 Performance heat pump went out at 13,000 miles. Took Tesla about 4 days to repair. Basically they just pulled the old out and put in a brand new pump.
On a side note: I noticed you mentioned AAA. If you have the top membership, I think you would have been covered to tow the distance. If not, then at least the first 100 miles for no charge, then work out the rest. If I were tasked with paying $700 plus to go 2 hours away, I would have rented a U-Haul pickup for $19.95/day plus the $.079/mile, and a U-Haul car hauler for another $65.00. That would have run about $275.00 round trip. Just an idea!
Thanks for sharing that information
Exactly the options that I was thinking. U-Haul on long hauls can be expensive because of per-mile pricing. Plus, those trucks are not really fuel-efficient. I would add 60-80$ fuel cost to the estimate. The worst part is you have to do the work and spend time to drive there and back.
AAA top-tier membership on the other hand is a good option. In my area, AAA says 200mile towing is free. I would just get a yearly subscription. It has other benefits as well.
Agreed! Exactly what I was thinking!@@suvari225
Hey, yeah, I had not thought of that. I just commented another idea as well, and that was to have scheduled the car to be delivered with a car transport company. Since he had the time and they could drive the car to get it on the transport... I had a car I purchased out of state, 350 miles away, had it delivered for ..under $380 bucks, from the dealership to my driveway.
@@MRantzWI but then you run into more headaches and costs if the cars has been damaged (dents, scratches…)
I owned a Model S for 5 years, one year out of warranty. It cost me a couple grand in expenses in that one year and it felt like things kept breaking every few months so I dumped it.
Have you gone back to an ICE car?
two hybrids in the garage in place of two Teslas, Lexus ES hybrid and RAV4 plugin hybrid @@RUHappyATM
@@RUHappyATM Clearly the poster did, as his pfp is of the Lexus emblem, dead giveaway lmao.
@@lupavo1738
I don't look at people's emblems...I read what they post!
@RUHappyATM-- I was watching Internet Dude's channel when he was having many problems with his Tesla. His videos convinced me not to buy an EV. He ended up buying a Lexus, and a beautiful 2007 Lincoln Town Car.
I have a 2002 Town Car that I bought in 2007 for $11,750. More than 16 years and about 100,000 miles later, it has never let me down. Yes, I have had to make a few repairs, but it has been the most economical car I have ever owned, and still rides like a dream.
This is great, honest, down to earth content. I've not made the jump from ICE (BMW 2 SERIES 2016, 72K miles) Ireland, to BEV yet due to infrastructure issues, cost and range anxiety but I congratulate you on your reasonable attitude and fair conclusions. Great content. Thank you. 😊
I have a 2009 BMW 335i. 149,950 miles. Done all maintenance and repairs myself. Plan on keeping it until it vomits all over the road.
The big problem here is not the EV, but that Tesla is like Apple and keeps everything proprietary and never shares any technical documents so nobody other than Tesla can fix anything so they can charge whatever they feel like and you can't go anywhere else and depending on where you live it can months.
@noseboop4354 Yep. Just ask my neighbor who is $8k in debt from repairs to his model X.
Ev cars on a whole are trash , good luck when you run over a rock or log on the road , damage the skid pan and the garage refuse to service it , and quote you for a complete battery pack at £20k
@@PhilDurham That's when the insurance company totals it for you and raises your rates.
I have owned a 2023 MYLR for about 7 months. We have put roughly 7,000 miles on it. I have been incredibly disappointed with it. I am also in the midwest and the range is abysmal in the cold weather. Yesterday with temps below 0 it used 150% more range than the estimate. I drove 57 actual miles, and it consumed 142 miles of range. That was in chill mode and limiting my HVAC use as much as possible. The excessive energy consumption has been consistent with temps at or below freezing, typically it is 50-60% more range; but 150%?! That's insane. The other problem is that I have a time of use energy plan and rates are determined by demand. With the cold weather energy prices are higher, so the excessive energy use is costing me far more to charge. Also, after taking delivery my car spent a week at the body shop to correct the factory paint issues. I will be hopefully trading it in within the next couple of days. I have been on the waitlist for the CyberTruck, but I will never own a Tesla again. I think now that more of these are in the hands of people that aren't fanboys or getting paid to hype these things, average people will start giving real opinions about them. The fact you had a major and expensive HVAC issue on a car that has 57k miles on it, had a massive towing bill, and you are still suggesting that others buy these things is ridiculous.I have had numerous vehicles that I have put over 100k miles on and all I have done is routine maintenance. I certainly have never replaced HVAC components at 60k miles. I'm sure that you're getting some sort of incentive by sharing your link, plus the ad revenue from your videos. The average owner isn't going to have those benefits to make up for costly repairs.
I have a 2002 Honda Civic Lx with ~135k miles. Clean and drives well. I was *very close to financing a Tesla Y a week or so ago but have decided to wait, save up and cash flow my dream hybrid vehicle. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Hmmm id stick with Honda my car is a 1994 accord one owner and everything still works on it I've done the Timing belt and the brakes and a radiator Iv drove it now b130 000 miles it now has 220 000 miles on it an older person owned it before me 😅
Go Volvo xc90 t8 recharge in pearl white then. That was my #2 pick
Sorry to see your situation. I needed a super reliable car here in Australia and went for the Japanese Built Mitsubishi ICE with 10 Years Warranty , 10 Years Fixed Price Servicing and Roadside Assist .
My Mitsubishi Galant had a bad steering rack and the air suspension system crapped out ($1,900 to fix.. no aftermarket parts available). I finally got rid of it when it kept leaving me stranded and no-one could fix the problem. When I switched over to Honda I never looked back.
I'm surprised, with all of Tesla's sophistication, the car just didn't "phone home" when it set that code and the company didn't proactively notify you right away that it needed repairs, instead of you having to verify.
Like my BMW nonexteded warantee nonphone home nothing, lol where do you people live. 😅😂
Mine did just that. No “customer states” it was “car states” 😳
Ev's in general have a bad reputation. Only tesla gets ragged on though. Hybrids are a more proven technology to date. Ev's have a long way to go.
In some cases the car does notify Tesla of issues.
Oddly all the new semi trucks "phone home" when repairs or maintenance is needed.
Tesla has/had a problem with early heatpumps. I had the same issue with my 2021 Model Y. Just 1,500 miles out of warranty. They goodwilled the parts and I paid the labor after complaining as well.
Total then was $3500...I paid $1000.
I'm going to guess ALL early models with the heatpump will go bad because they all got damaged by incorrect software running the supermanifold valves, causing rapid wear in the compressor which sends metal through the system. This is why the lines and supermanifold need to be replaced as well.
This happened about 35k miles ago for me. It's been fine ever since. I live in central Minnesota.
Great info. Thanks for adding this. I have a 2023 Y so I’m feeling better after reading your comment.
This could be the case. Mine is definitely on the early Model Y builds. Thanks for watching!
So is this something that can be requested before warranty runs out? Since it’s becoming a common repair for these models in 2020/21? My 21MYLR has 25k was purchased at non Tesla so no extended warranty for me to buy but now think I need to budged 2500$ for this repair looming…
Thank you for this comment! I have a Nov 2021 Model Y so I'm hoping they had fixed this issue before mine was manufactured
If it is such a known issue they should be recalling and providing free repair for all early owners.
Thank You very much for sharing your experienced. The car had dropped from almost $59,900 in November 2023 down to $37,890 Tesla Y Long Range as of today. There was something wrong with the price when it had started out with. Price has dropped in a fast speed. The new Tesla Y is cheaper than to buy a used one in 2023. We went to Tesla Repair Center due to the wheel cracked less than 10 months (Tesla offer no warranty on tire and wheel). It cost us almost $400 for a new wheel rim. Tesla Repair Center when asked, said $255 an hour of labor on service. The car came with no spare tire. The only thing that tow truck will do, is hauling your Tesla away to nearest Shop Tire. It sure had ruined our trip. We wouldn't buy any vehicle from Tesla.
I own a 2014 Toyota 4Runner with 189,000 miles. In 10 years of ownership, I’ve had one repair, $180. All else has been routine maintenance. 😎
That sounds about right for a Toyota. Guy I work with has 638,000 miles on a 2005 Toyota Corolla. Never did anything but change the eral and the brakes once or twice
The amount of money you put in on fuel compared to the repair costs of a Tesla just doesn’t compare. It costs me $3.50 to charge at home and get 300 miles of range
@@shanedwood the first $20,000 battery replacement will wipe that out in one shot
@@grazz7865I’m not a tesla fan, but batteries are covered under warranty up to 8 years or 150k miles on a model Y. In those 8 years a Toyota 4Runner would use around $21k in fuel alone. Using US average of 14k miles per year and an average of $3.50 per gallon. That’s not including oil changes and or other maintenance required on an ICE
@@bigj7574 and electric is free? That same 4Runner engine could last the life of the vehicle if well maintained. It is not guaranteed to fail at some point like a lithium battery. And if it did fail, it might cost me $7,000-$8,000 to rebuild or replace the engine at which time I would see if it’s actually worth it.
Appreciate this video as my 2020 Model Y just got the same error message with no heat in the cabin. I couldn't get the repair scheduled till mid-January. I asked the KC Service Center if the car was safe to drive from Wichita to KC with a 15% Supercharge along the way and they said yes. They said heating and cooling the battery is independent of Cabin Climate Control. Fortunately I paid for the extended warranty since first year production on any car is likely to have more defects. I appreciate your videos, keep up the good work 🙂
Consumer Reports currently rates the model Y as having a much worse than average reliability. Good luck.
Update: After a very cold (-9 degrees) drive to KC the Tesla Service Center replaced my compressor, supermanifold and some AC lines similar to your fix. Fortunately they did this in 5 hours on the same day I drove up so I had a warm drive home that night. The battery pack pre-conditioned and charged like normal at a Supercharger stop on the way up to KC. Hopefully these parts are an upgrade over the parts in my early Model Y, I don't want to replace them again in 65K miles.
I’ve never leased a car. However if I wanted a Tesla I would. With rapidly evolving battery technology this seems the way to go.
As a retired consulting Electrical and Mechanical engineer, I was a consultant to architects in the design and construction of buildings for 52 years. During that time I saw a boatload of heating and cooling system failures. My wife and I have a 2020 Model 3 which does not have the heat pump system. Due to my experience with systems, I prefer the non-heat pump, resistance-type heating in our Tesla. The old saying is " You can't buy
non-sh*t happening insurance anymore, they quit selling it" It appears to me that since you can afford two
Model Y's, you can afford to pay for a paltry 2 - 3 grand. Perhaps you might consider doing a video that discusses the amount of money you have saved having the Tesla vehicles and how much will be saved in the future. PN
great points. This guy is loaded with money and complaining about a 2 grand repair which he easily paid and won't miss it
Pure speculation too substanciate your statement
We've had the transmissions go out on two Fords just after warranty. We carefully check out Consumers Reports now.
Good to point - Tesla's aren't maintenance-free and while the cost seems high, it's probably the same as "regular maintenance" (transmission fluids, oil, etc.) for a regular car. The biggest concern won't be these "smaller" costs but rather future battery replacement costs - I was told it's around $16k which is worrisome. Other inevitable costs to also consider - cracks in the windshield is around $1000 and the roof around $2000. While the experience is great, this very much reminds me of "boutique" cars like a Mini - weeks to get service instead of a few days/same day. Hopefully this improves over time.
Good video. Thank you for sharing your experience. I have a 2023 Model Y LR (built in Austin late Jan 2023); It's my 3rd Tesla. It's my understanding that the AC/heatpump compressor is an integral part of the car's battery management system. ICE cars don't need an air conditioner to operate, only to keep the cabin comfortable. Without the AC/heatpump compressor, a Tesla (and most other modern EVs) would likely experience very slow charging rate at a DC fast-charger due to the battery getting too hot (the car would significantly throttle back charging rate to protect the battery). Any kind of driving that would heat up the battery and drive train (like high speed highway driving or long periods of re-gen such as going downhill on a mountain road) or hot weather would also result in the battery getting too hot since the battery management system would be unable to help cool the battery without the AC/heatpump compressor. I live in Texas and, for me, a functioning AC compressor is a must regardless if ICE or EV. In a modern EV, an AC compressor is essential to the operation of the battery/drivetrain.
Sorry you went thru this but thanks for sharing an honest experience. Very well done video
Don't buy one lol
I feel your pain. I had my Tesla fully breakdown due to an electrical issue a few months ago while driving back to CO from IA. Tesla service center said a mouse had chewed the wires but when I asked for pictures the pictures clearly show wires being melted not chewed. Also the Tesla repair person said.. "whats odd is the rodent shield is not chewed through so I am not sure how the mouse chewed the wires". Regardless they stood their ground and made me pay for the repairs which with towing was almost over a grand. Very shady to say the least.
Sell that piece of shit and get a real car.
Sketcheeeeree!
My 2008 Lexus ES350 with 210k is running perfect. I think it's worth about $5k and after viewing this video, it put the kibosh on my plans to trade it in. I honestly can't afford a rich man's problems.
I’ll give you $6K for it. Don’t make me raise my bid…
I work for a windshield replacement company here in Nova Scotia and we have to put teslas into service mode to replace the windshield. It’s 4 hrs and two or three guys working on it to complete the job.
I had a daytime running light strip in one headlight go out, Tesla first quoted me around 2k, then after I complained, they said it was a known issue with a tsb, and they then lowered it to 900$. I do love the car, but from what I have personaly experianced, and what other owners have said as well.....most repairs are way overpriced, and almost always take a long time to have the work completed.
That's where Tesla and all dealers make their money. The more they sell, the more they can repair. And with Tesla and other EVs it's proprietary service, so nobody else can do it. They tell you $2k, you complain, they cut it in half, and make you feel good about spending $1k on a headlight repair.
I wonder how much gasoline could have been purchased with $1,000.?@@TheFrenchPug
After reliability issues and expensive repair bills on numerous vehicles (and not on others), I decided that any vehicle I buy has to have a J at the beginning of the VIN number. That's the best warranty I've ever bought. It works for motorcycles and cars. Trust me. I've been around.
I love Japanese reliability! My 2007 Yamaha YZF-600R sport bike has 89,000 miles on it so far. Only have had to replace normal items. Brake Pads, Clutch and Throttle Cables, Fuel Filter, and I'm still on my 2nd OEM chain/sprocket set. Chain Wax makes a HUGE difference in chain and sprocket wear! 👍
Agree
J is thing to be....😊
Outstanding, especially on the chain and sprocket wear.
I routinely pushed all my bikes well north of 100000 miles before buying my next motorcycle.
Lots of other companies do the same, but you find out that lots of them have been partially rebuilt along the way. 👍
In the past, I have owned out-of-warranty Jaguars and Mercedes and in comparison, these Tesla prices seem very reasonable. For example on the Jaguar on multiple occasions, the turn signal would go out and a flashing warning showed up on the 4" info screen, instead of a new $10 bulb it was always the module that monitored the bulb and always cost > $1,000 this was 20 years ago. .
Overall, I think the charge was reasonable for the work done. Just wished it was covered. Thanks for watching!
Agree, after owning a Mercedes anything is cheap!
Yea my bmw was almoat $9k 40% labor alone, now a days any ac compressor would cost you $2k
@@iowatesla You had $700 in towing which should be included in your total cost of repair. Also the cost of you and your wife driving 4hours as part of the repair process. Glad you had another model Y you could use. There was an old joke about Jags - they recommended you buy 2 since they were so unreliable. We would be a good use case for a Tesla. Retired and drive around 100 miles a week.I drove a model 3 and I loved it. I could consider one if they could improve the build quality and reduce the inconvenience and expense of owning one. Enjoyed the video and Appreciate your honest reporting of your experience.
@@josephdesimone8251try owning a Range Rover.
I've had two brand new Honda Civics and a brand new Toyota Rav4 Prime with heat pump. I've never had any significant issues costing several thousands of dollars to fix in the first 3 years of the car, much less over 15 and 20 years for the Civics. My Rav4 Prime is 3 years old now and 60k miles. Drives like a dream, and never had any issues. I was thinking about the model Y, but now, I'm not so sure.
Wait until the drive unit or a batt module goes. We sold ours after the warranty was up for this reason. The heat pump on our Model Y went out in the middle of Death Valley going from NorCal to Tennessee.
It only takes one time to bail on EVs. My neighbor got swindled into buying a dual motor X. Out of warranty everything started happening. He's had to pay nearly $8k so far on repairs and still no battery issues. He's pissed.
Elon is taking the piss out of all of his EVangelists. Prerequisites are having to be rich and stupid.
the battery and drive unit have a 120K mile warranty
@@James-cq9dp That's nothing
@@TheFrenchPug find me a car company that puts 120K mile warranty on anything
Very low quality, got rid of mine
Trying to get rid of mine as well. However I’m $26k under.
For low quality I see your Tesla and raise you my MG4 Se SR
@@muathshqeirat5463Damn😮
Bet tow truck isn't electric.
This guy is a gluten for punishment. He has two of these expensive toys.
I am going to keep my old Toyota Camry. Last year all I did was an oil change, and that was it. It's nice to have a car that doesn't eat you alive and take your hard-earned money because EV's are so new they are still in the experimental phase and using unsuspecting people as guinea pigs.
So glad your saving the planet
Love my “combustion engine” car, Works great! It’s been in the single digits, car starts, has heat, my car locator will Not set off an alarm, the resale value of my car actually holds its value. My Mercedes also has 74,000 miles and all I’ve done is change the oil and had to buy tires. And I can drive to as long as I want in 24 hours with only stopping for 8 minutes long enough to fill my gas tank!!!!!
I have this same error message on my out of warranty 2020 Model Y 😬 So far my heat still works fine. I've been out of town for the holidays so my appointment isn't until Jan 8. Now I know what to expect.
Ended up being the same repair. Set me back $3,200....
You should call Tesla and see if you can get some money back due to the recall?
It’s encouraging that replacing a complex system like that only took 4 hours of labor.
It took Tesla 10 hours to fix mine
Calendar time was 3 days.
I am so sorry that you had this problem. My self I would never buy one of those battery-powered cars they are to expensive and not dependable.
AC/heater problem is hardly at "battery" car problem. More of a Tesla problem.
Americans cant manufacture reliable cars.
Hertz is selling its entire Tesla fleet over the next few months. The reason is maintenance costs and parts availability. According to Hertz it equivalent body damage costs 4x as much in a Tesla vs GM, Ford or Chrysler. Parts were very hard to get from Tesla and they would be back ordered weeks to months. The cars sitting in lots waiting for parts could not earn money and time is money.
Also for anybody still thinking these Teslas are tempting… most of them were rented out to Uber and Lyft drivers, so they have more wear and tear than average used rentals.
That’s not the whole story.
I want to add something to that. I don’t know why you have two Teslas but if it’s for saving the environment, Iowa State produces its electricity from multiple source but sadly, 55% of it comes from non renewable energies.
I have a 2020 MSLR+ and just had my first major repair. The suspension bushings needed to be replaced and it was almost $1,800. Then my half shafts were found to be warn and they gave me a great deal of only charging me for parts ($375). Either way, over 2k in fixes always sucks on a car that you hope doesn’t have a lot of maintenance costs as they suggest. I do have nearly 90k miles on it, so I consider that a win all things considered.
Sorry but you are correct. Cars break. It happens. Thanks for watching!
All things considered, $ 2,175 in repairs/maintenance given 90,000 miles is inexpensive compared to a typical ICE vehicle. Still, I can see how it's disappointing.
How many miles did you drive yourself? Bushings atee cheap.
@@Elaba_ That depends on how accessible parts are, doesn't it? I mean, for my old car, you're talking about maybe $50 worth of bushings. The ball joints would be another $30 per wheel if they have play in them and the CV axles about $50 each for a good quality replacement. Then maybe half a day of my time replacing that stuff, but on my 20 year old daily driver that stuff doesn't need replacing and I'm almost double the mileage you listed. And that's the advantage of having an aftermarket for parts, sometimes they even improve on the original parts.
But think of all the money you saved on engine oil changes 😂 😂 😂
I have a 2020 MYLR SN ~5800. Last year, the car had an issue with cabin heating (which I almost never use (FL)). Tesla didn't ask any questions and replaced the compressor, octovalve, many other parts under warranty. I suspect that the early heat pumps had some sort of weakness. I'm surprised yours lasted so long, in IA, not that this helps you of course. Thank you for the video and all the others.
Sorry it didn't happen 6 months aga when it would have been covered... Oh well. Thanks for watching!
sounds like the heat pump/compressor had grenaded internally/mechanically. Usually when a compressor grenades it sends "shrapnel" or debris throughout the system and thats why the supermanifold and lines had to be replaced. if they had just replaced the compressor youd be sending debris throughout the system again and the new compressor would soon grenade as well
Happens with none Teslas alike.
Tesla should have a function that links your bank account on the computer display. This way they can immediately drain your bank account, while towing it away for repairs. I have a 2004 Toyota with V6 engine (110K miles). Zero problems.
In 2020 a Honda Civic would have cost you less and could still be driving it and get better MPG. Less cost to own!! My neighbor also purchased a Tesla in 2020 and traded in their Toyota Corolla that was a 2019. They looked at the 2020 Honda Civic but decided on the Tesla. The Tesla has been towed 7 times for various problems. The closest dealer is 90 minutes away. They got it back again last week running great and traded in for a 2023 Toyota Corolla!!!
Thanks for sharing this even though it was hard to make. If it makes you feel better my BMW needed a new turbo charger at 57k miles, which cost $5,500. It wasn’t even a new turbo, it was reconditioned. Hopefully my 2023 Y has the newer equipment you now have.
I always sold my bmws before warranty ended. Great car until warranty is up.
@@Chuckk12I’d say that’s a solid statement for any luxury vehicle these days. My old Audi A8L cost me so much money when out of warranty that I regretted not selling it before it expired. Expensive lesson, for sure.
Dang. BMW's are defiantly expensive. I had a MINI Cooper S (owned by BMW) and it was pricy to repair.
Thanks for that add! Some people will probably use this video as proof(in their minds) that Tesla’s are money pits, when in actuality, as you described, and I’m easily aware, this can and has happened to all manner of cars, ICE cars included. My only issue in this video was the $700 towing estimate given by Tesla. Ouch! Than goodness he had AAA!
Two good takeaways from this video: Buy the extended warranty, and have a good roadside service contract with a high towing limit.
@@iowatesla ANY German car IS Expensive to repair!
Had the same error code on my two week old ‘23 MY. No AC in the FL summer. Had to replace the compressor. This can affect newer models too. Luckily, mine was still under warranty.
Glad yours was covered. Thanks for watching!
I have to conmend you for making the video. Some people would have swept this under the rug. You don't see ICE owner's making a video about a major part breaking. They make a big deal about EV's why, to bring them down. Yes, it was expensive, but not all parts last for ever. I am glad you honest.
I try very hard to be as honest as possible. Thanks for watching!
Because ICE cars don't break down like EV. Had my last car 10 years had over 500,000km and all I ever replaced was tyres, brake pads and windscreen wiper blades. EV are not supposed to have any problems and yet here we are. Guy does 1.2million miles in a Tesla, brags about it like he has accomplished something, tells you he had to replace the battery 4 times and motors 14 times. I know ICE taxis that do 1.5 million miles and only replaced 2 gear boxes.
Since starting to drive in 1994 I haven’t had a major breakdown on my cars or trucks. I got out of Nissan before I had two with CVT’s that were on their way out. I’m a Toyota loyal customer now, they haven’t been back to the dealer for anything. I do my own maintenance.
@Bikes0420Not a troll. I have 2007 Toyota Camry XLE, 2018 Toyota Tundra Unlimited. I have two EV's also. I am not bias but I get sick of people throwing EV's under the bus.
I, literally, see dozens of TH-cam videos on ICE vehicles and their problems filmed by the owners.
Wow, I have recently seen tons of videos where people say electric cars have no related costs.
This is crazy, the heater goes out and the whole car is basically inoperable.
Tesla is the best American made car you can get. It’s just that you can forget about self repair and that is a problem as most of us don’t have dealership money for repairs. Most of just barely have shade tree mechanic money for repairs.
I feel ya and I’m glad that’s behind you! I have a similar model that I purchased used @20k (currently @33K). I usually don’t buy extended warranties, but I did this time because I didn’t know what I was getting myself into this being my first experience with an EV. Watching this makes me feel that I made the right choice. Thanks for sharing!
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching!
You made the wrong choice buying an EV! How stupid can you be??
What's the manufacturer warranty bumper to bumper on these cars?
He mentioned in the video the extended warranty was $50k. Did I hear that right?
@@MurphyYves $2k for an extra $25k miles of cvg.
My 2nd car a 29 year old Toyota never had a single failure in the 23 years I owned it as a daily driver. AC compressor still working fine. Yes, its 29 years old with only regular service.
Yes Toyotas are unbelievable! Why anyone would chose a EV over a nice Toyota or Lexus is baffling!
Hope you’re not in a serious accident, not very good crash statistics back then. Especially for Toyota.
I'm willing to bet the condensors got clogged with debris and overheated. The air vent on the bumper allows road debris(leaves, dirt, rocks) to enter into the area where the radiators reside. It's accessible by removing the frunk, and you then have access to a black cover that sits on top of the radiators. Without removing the front bumper you are only able to remove a few bolts from the cover and pull it back, but it gives you enough room to see inside the radiator area and vacuum debris out with a shop vac. Our 2021 Model 3 that we just traded in was absolutely covered with debris inside at 60k miles, I was shocked. I think we got lucky. We installed a mesh grill off of amazon to prevent large debris from getting in our new Model Y.
Hi would this be the same set up on 21 plaid ?
@@jogriffin9347 I'm not sure how the radiator design is on the S/X, but it seems like there's a similarly placed vent in the front.
Could I get a link to that "mesh grill" please?
Because putting Amazon parts on a 30k motor , that should have been thought of by the manufacturer is the way to go
@@PhilDurham I agree, seems like a huge oversight
We have a 2007 Lexus SUV with 86,000 miles that we love and our 1997 Lexus sedan with a Toyota drive train is still going strong
Many of my coworkers bought Tesla. I told them that the money they save on gas gonna be spending elsewhere. They laughed at me because I'm driving a 23 yr old Acura. I only pay $40 every fill up and thats with the premium gas every 2 weeks.
Moral of the story; Get an extended warranty… Would’ve cost less than the repair bill+towing.
I think with any EV the extended warranty should be bought. I have seen the videos about the 60k battery replacement for the Ionic 5.
Extended warranty doesn't cover collision damage, which is what happened when those EVs drove over road debris.
It's up to the collision insurance to determine if the vehicle is worth repairing or writing off.
Thank you for sharing! No more Teslas for me! Going back to Lexus before my Y’s warranty expires.
The batteries are extremely delicate and intricate, the slightest bash and they are buggered.
Out of warranty Tesla????
I never thought I'd see the day.
Someone with a Tesla that doesn't change it every year.
Y'all are sitting around feeling sorry for this guy, while I'm taking a moment to appreciate the service mode detail this guy got on his own screen. Got to appreciate the little things people.
@@Newstime222only way you end up on a video like this is because you’re interested in EVs
I think so too @@diz354
No difference to my ICE car being out of warranty by 6 months, and the cam chain skipped causing head damage, total cost £2500. Two months later clutch failure. £400.😫. Good video.🙌👍
Yep. Cars break - EV or not. Thanks for watching!
What brand
cam chain can skip only if you skipped interval for changing it
@@dzonikgNot so I'm afraid - ask BMW N47 engine owners 😭
@@Joe-ud2hbFirst mistake is buying BMW.
Bought my Tesla model Y long range with 67K used. The prior owner said that the suspension bushings were replaced at around a cost of 1500. After a lot of thinking I decided to go ahead and do a four year X care protection plan with a $500 deductible. granted in most cases, the house wins, but I plan to keep the car for a while and it’s just good peace of mind, maybe expensive peace of mind, but instances like this make me think that I did the right thing. my Tesla is built in October 20 20 and is listed as a model year 21. I would definitely buy another Tesla. In fact, I’d love to move to a performance model at some point thank you for the great content. Keep it up!
Thanks! I would like a performance Might as well at some point. Thanks for watching!
"What do I do?" A sledgehammer comes to mind.
Great honest video. Thanks for taking time to let us know your whole experience. I have 2023 Y and will look into purchasing extended warranty.
Glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watching!
I would have asked for the old parts and then you could do a cool tear down video! 😎
Stupid is as stupid does, NO SYMPATHY!! My 2016 4runner hasn't cost me a dime since buying it new (aside from brake pads and oil changes), even the battery is original!! Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
You can’t beat a four runner for reliability… probably the best car Toyota makes, as they say “ smart is a smart does and stupid is as stupid does” 😂. I finally got smart and traded in my 2009 Mercedes for a Toyota Highlander 2012 model two years ago …best thing I ever did. Cheers from southern calif… where there are more Teslas than you can shake a stick at in this town, and every time I see one , I laugh.
@@billyounger9713 how much have you spent on gas/fuel over the years? Tell me how many miles you have and I’ll blow your mind
I had to have my car towed 34 miles 2 weeks ago. total cost of tow was 398.00 dollars honestly 700 wasn’t bad for that distance. For reference I live on eastern Long Island where everything is overpriced.
Bought my 06' Honda Civic brand new in 05', 18 years later my all my heating still working, rear defroster, front windshield defroster, feet defroster, everything works and the heating is instant😂 engine and transmission still hit the top speed every day without any issues 😂 MSRP for my car $15,800 paid cash.
My brother is an engineer and he can buy any luxury car he wants he has a 2016 Civic bought it brand new, 7 years later the only thing that broke was that his battery died and he had to replace his original tires 😂😂😂 and that's it.
Cost of GoodYear 60,000 mile warranty tires for a Civic $59(each) on sale😂
2hrs from the nearest service station is insane.
If it makes you feel better, my CVT repair on my Altima was 7G.
Ouch. I do feel better. :) Thanks for watching!
so tesla is the nissan of evs? good to know.
@@trippplefive keep wishing. It’s a new year after all.
Tesla owners got bank $$$$$. No tears shed.
AAA membership would have taken care of the towing costs depending on the plan you selected.
Big business thinks of people as sheep, it's easy to steer people in the direction you want, with just a few persuasive claims about EV's. ... Foolish people are followers. ... big business winners, no matter what it does to the consumer..don't fall for the bait !
Thanks to your video, I just got my money back from an initial deposit! I am now frightened to come close to Tesla or any electric vehicle.
A few cemetery candles taped to the center console. the crucifix cutouts in the lid also makes you a more cautious driver.
Seriously, 55,000 miles on original tires? What's the secret?
Great video and very thorough. Thanks.
I don't know. More than half the miles were on the highway. That could be a contributing factor. Thanks for watching!
I'm getting like 12k on an M3P.
There are times when Tesla is just like the legacy builders. I remember a friend of mine got a Jetta and when she drove it for a over ten minutes and then park it, the vehicle would not start again until it sat for awhile. Then it would start up like there was no issue, but the problem would happen again and again. When she got it the dealer for service, they knew exactly what the issue was. The dealer to her VW sells a wire kit that will replace the wire that goes from the starter past the exhaust manifold to the battery with a heat shield wrapped wire so that the exhaust manifold heat would not overheat the wire. Apparently, when a wire gets too hot, it does not conduct electricity. This cost her $500, mostly labor in that cost, and it was fixed. For me, I was wondering why if VW knew this was an issue and they had designed the car, built the car, why did they not fix it for free? They designed and built a vehicle with a clear flaw. I am going to guess they figured it out quickly, because there was no major recall, but her car was bought off the dealership, two year old used with around 50,000 miles, so she was stuck. This was before the whole certified used thing was common. Point is, i hate when builders know of a design issue that is costly to the consumer and just leave it for the consumer to deal with the cost.
All cars have flaws I guess. It's still frustrating when it happens to you. Thanks for watching!
Automakers that use a dealership model are incentivized to keep parts they know are faulty so it helps dealership service revenue
So sorry this happened to you, Jim. Thank you for sharing all the details with us.
Happy to do it. Hopefully the views will help me pay for part of it. 🤪 Thanks for watching!
@@iowateslaThe case is a normal situation with average price for similar repairs in any car. I paid the same in an ICE car. Granted in my case in happened at 180000 miles. I still believe that your car failure was premature at 55000 miles. Your concern is valid: do you need to repeat the same repair at 110000 miles? Hopefully the replacement equipment will last longer. I had to replace a valve at that pump in Chrysler Pacifica eHybrid PHEV at 70000 miles but was covered under original factory warranty.
I have 2 hybrid vehicles, I get around 53mpg on one and 42 on the other one, where fuel cost is pretty close to EV charging but reliability and convenience are way better.
Notice the tow truck was ICE powered? Just like emergency response vehicles.
Thank you so much , but now Im convinced Teslas are bad investment
I had this exact issue at 27,000km and the exact repair done. This was at the time (Jan 2022) there were multiple HVAC failures and an investigation was done by NHSTA and Transport Canada. I checked my invoice and they replaced the super manifold, compressor and lines. Currently my car has 103,000km and all is well. I have a feeling that your unit should have been replaced at the time of all these other failures as it was probably a design flaw that was sorted with the newer units. I own a May2021 build Model Y.
My gut tells me that this is a weak point in early Model Y's. The heat pump was a new development for them. It did technically last longer than the warranty and they have every right to charge me - even if the part was not robust. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this video. It's good to see a real-life experience -- especially from another Iowan.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for making the sacrifice for the rest of us ICE'ers.
Tesla has its benefits. Only good short ranges. Cross state lines having to charge a few hours at a time is a waste of time. Still a nice car that need more infrastructure around potential issues
They are almost maintenance-free. (Even more so now than the 2013 Model S that I've got). But they are not repairs-free. "Stuff breaks" is what Tesla Service wanted to say to you but they can't say that 😊 Also had a cabin heater fail during a Christmas roadtrip and was driving it from northern CA to central TX during below-freezing conditions. Fond memories now, but not an experience I'd want to repeat!
The big lie - they are no where near maintenance free - coolant changes, HVAC desiccant service, break fluid changes, tires, rotations, brake pads, cabin filters, wiper blades, etc. All of these when done by Tesla will far exceed the costs of oil changes and routine maintenance of say a Toyota.
@@markmonroe733099% of those should be self serviceable. Do they make it to where you can't do your own maintenance?
@@markmonroe7330 buddy you and your Toyota-loving internet quarterback opinions just walked into quicksand. I have a 2013 Model S which I've owned since new and it now has 274,000 miles on it. I speak with authority on what maintenance is needed, and what things have broken on my car and needed to get fixed. Your post is largely baloney. What would you like to learn about that you currently don't know? Just ask. There are no brake fluid changes, you change the cabin air filter yourself and it's a standard auto industry part which Tesla will sell you for $9.87 or it's $19.95 at AutoZone. You replace the cabin air filter, windshield wipers, wiper fluid and tires JUST THE SAME as any car - electric or fossil. Tesla isn't any different. If you want to pay a vendor/dealer money to do that, it's up to you - electric or fossil. Or you can do it yourself. I get the wheels rotated to balance tire wear at Discount Tire... it's free. I would say the car has been very reliable considering the miles. Only broke down twice. (battery issue fixed under warranty @ 115,000 miles, body controller module replaced at 270,000 miles for $1,300) It's on its second set of brakes. Original parts lasted until 188,000 miles. The current set will last longer I expect, because I now drive it more gently than I used to and don't press the brake pedal as much! Modern Teslas are expected to last a lot longer as, since they built my car, Tesla have had 10yrs to improve longevity. "Toyota" on the other hand, sell cars that NEED MAINTENANCE. They sell cars that KEEP dealership service departments IN BUSINESS. Maintaining fossil cars is the main source of profit for dealerships. (Selling new cars comes in a distant second) This is why Toyota is so far behind on BEV. Their U.S. dealers are telling them they do not want to sell BEVs - even if they're what customers want. Before you claim "Toyota customers do not want BEV" - consider that the world's best-selling car is no longer the fossil-fuel-burning Toyota Corolla. It's a BEV.
@@MartinGalway Most all the maintenance on a Model S is the same as a non-EV as you clearly show above. That said my 320,000 3/4 truck and 280,000 Toyota are both on the orginal factory brake pads/rotors. Hate that yours wore out so soon.
@@markmonroe7330 my car is supposed to be a performance sedan, so... its brakes lasted longer than any other, I would think! Trucks are probably different
thanks for this video it was very educational. sorry to hear you had to go through this and spend that much money. but as with any mechanical equipment things breakdown. now I will consider the extended warranty on my 2022 Model Y. great job with your video very well done thanks again
Glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for watching!
Gas forever
Amen brother
Still using my nissan sunny (Sentra) from 1992 and I have spend that money in its 30+ years.
You are a very nice guy. If I had to put $3,000 into my 3 year old, 57k mile vehicle, I’d be much crankier (pissed). I used to oversee a fleet of 20 Ford SUV’s that ran day and night. Never had to put that much money into any of these ICE vehicles under 100k miles.
Good to know. I am close to a service center, maybe 12 miles away. Plus, Southern California winter is quite mild. But, an extended warranty might be a really good idea, considering how expensive the repairs from Tesla seem to be.
That's a personal choice you will need to make for yourself. Thanks for watching!
Dealers or "sellers" make their money from the repair end of car sales. Not the selling of vehicles themselves.