are you sure about that ? cause in the sequel blood wars the vampires and lycans seem to be doing pretty good for themselves with no one stopping them, almost like the vampires and werewolves being discovered aspect of this movie didn't really happen, So I wouldn't really bother trying to fit this film into the canon, the filmmakers aren't.
@@deusdeaconReviews that's true. Which begs the question if Alexander was alive this whole time until his death in evolution, then where was he in the prequal rise of the lycans. Was he not cleaning their messes then or did it only matter for the plot in the second film🤔
I think they included Charles Dance in this movie to vamp him up for the Dracula Untold movie. But where I could see the possibilities of a better "Dark Universe" in that movie than the Tom Cruise Mummy movie, in this series, they were just setting him up to die in the next sequel.
If you researched real cryogenics they do actually put people in the tanks upside down. That way if for some reason power goes out, liquid nitrogen shipments cease, and the body starts to thaw the liquid nitrogen at the bottom of the canister takes longer to evaporate making the head salvageable even if the rest of the body is not.
Not necessarily. We don't know what she's stored in but we do know that upside down is the real world way of storing frozen bodies. I was going to make a comment about the glass making the whole freezing thing rather impossible but future science is a magical thing and how dare we judge them
That lycan in the brown jacket I'm almost certain played Dyson, a werewolf in Lost Girl, and his character dressed in almost the exact same way. Edit: Got a better look. That is ABSOLUTELY Dyson from Lost Girl.
23:20 I think the doctor statement makes sense with his character. If you just assume that he is the Victor of lycans, and see vampires the same way Victor saw lycans. But that's the problem. Assume. Not explained, or better yet, shown. The thing it's that the ending to Evolution let them free to go any direcction they wanted, being this a good premise, but they introduced the changes in their world as backstory, instead of showing us how everything got this way in the film.
A movie that opens with contradictions to the previous films despite using footage from those films? This is Lawnmower Man 2 and Paranormal Activity: The Ghost Dimension all over again!
Hew Man Lawnmower Man 2 is ironically entertaining, PA: TGD is just frustrating and asinine. The few compliments I can give to the latter movie (eg. some, the keyword being _some_ of the CGI effects look cool, especially for a low budget movie), but they’re not enough to salvage it. The film has so many continuity errors that it makes me dumber just thinking about them. There’s also tons of moments that can be summed up with the MST3K quote “They just didn’t care.” Though I admit, this is one of the few films where I enjoy talking about why I hate the film rather than being to spiteful to make a conversation about it fun.
I can say right now, that if they had gone the route of having the girl, be Seline and Michael’s daughter, instead of the science experiment/clone angle, a lot of the changes in Seline’s behavior would have made a lot of sense, with Michael being dead, and their child in danger. Mama Bears, are terrifying.
Wasn't she? Isn't that implied, especially since her transformation isn't as altering as Michael's since she's 3/4 vampire and 1/4 lycan; and since her eyes are black with vampire blue on top while Michael's were just black, showing a combination of Selene's and Michael's ?
Given what lycan and vampires can do and humans are one of their favourite meals on some level it makes sense to get rid of them not alot of sense but some sense.
It doesn't really make sense at all... vampirism and lycanthropy are essentially cures for death, old age and all human illnesses... if we could unlock the secret to a pure Corvinus strain, as in what Alexander Corvinus was(he didn't need to feed on blood to live, was just an immortal man with superhuman stats), then humanity would pretty much ascend to transhumanism overnight. So wiping out the vampires and lycans would be the absolute last thing anyone with a brain would even consider doing.
@@wiseguy01 Pretty much so. After transformation you are still the same person, but now with awesome powers, immortality, and some minor quirks. After the discovery of these races, people, politicians included, will beg vampires and/or lycans to bite them.
also fun fact the gu who plays scrapy is actually a favourite actor of mine from one of my older favourite shows "Lost Girl" a place of faes (idk how to spell that) basically whatever magic fairy thing u can think of is real and fucked up in one way or the other and he also plays a werewolf in that movie
Why don't they just reboot it then?! I don't think the fans care about it anymore. "Start fresh and do what you want with it!!!" Because personaly i couldn't even bother to watch the latest film, i read the comic and didn't realy care. Why would i care about a 90 minutes film that is inferior to the first three films!!!
Selene in Evolution: “If you don’t anticipate your cravings, you’ll attack humans. And believe me, you don’t want that on your conscience.” Selene in Awakening: 6:56
Selene cheats a lot: 0 damage from a sunlight bomb in her face, ignores being shot in the brain by a silver bullet, and then literally looks at the plot to see where to go next.
20:25 To be fair, she did also cut her hand, thereby transferring some of her Corvinus-enhanced blood directly to his heart and bloodstream. So, another Corvinus/vampire hybrid. Yay!
Did you forget that by Awakening, she had fed on the blood of Alexander Corvinus? Hence why she was so much stronger. Also, agree, this movie was garbage.
What I want to know is... how can a vampire get pregnant? Honestly, nothing in there is supposed to work if you know what I mean because she's un-bloody-dead!
Underworld Awakening: The vampire movie in which is is VERY. IMPORTANT. that the lead vampire have delicately frosted pink lipstick on at all times, regardless of the circumstance. It seriously distracted me through the entire film the first time I saw it, because it makes no goddamn sense. It's a small nit-picky thing, but it still annoys the shit out of me. Like Henry Cavill's CGI face in Justice League.
I love how the writers are still seemingly sticking with the disease/infection angle despite the prior films doing nothing to separate the pseudo-science from the psychic/supernatural characteristics of both species...but as previously noted the writers obviously gave no fucks about continuity...or common sense.
This film really didn't give a shit about the previous mythology. I hated everything about it. The killing of civilians, the lack of Speedman,the reveal of Subject 2. Sigh. And why aren't Selene's eyes silver?
Uh, dude, you do realize that atleast with Selene killing the soliders, normally something like that would be considered Self Defense. They are trying to kill her and the fact they are coming at her with assault rifles makes that obvious. Yeah it's not perfect, but remember the police officers were just normal guys doing their jobs and thus Selene had no reason to seriously injure them. The soldiers meanwhile are guys who are intentionally coming after her and want to kill her. Simply being human doesn't change that.
Killing maybe, breaking in half and impaling with said rifle is excessive, the guy she bent in half was incapacitated for example, its not that she kills the bad guys its that she brutalises them, something she didn't even do to that degree to lycans the ones who she thought killed her family even the real killer of her family victor received a swift death.
Deusdaecon Reviews Wait, not brutalize. The first time we see her kill a Lycan she literally empties her entire gun into the guy, when he's under her foot and can't even fight back. How's that not brutal?
thinking about yes that was brutal the film also showed that it was excessive that was the point of that scene, whereas here its par for the course, but also you mention the soldiers but what about the scientist who she's stabs in the head for example, whether my assessment of that one moment is correct or not, doesn't negate the rest of the video about the rest of the film.
"And stationary security cameras don't move, you idiots!" That made me laugh. To think that the cameras were even placed less that 6 feet high at the wall where anyone can reach.
people (humans) have tried to kill her in the past and she didn't react that was so not an adequate excuse, also its not the killing i'm objecting to its the sheer brutality that makes it unnecessary.
@@deusdeaconReviews It appears they wanted to give her an admittedly sloppy, revenge "arc". I've always assumed the throwaway "Now we're even" line was as attempt to explain the ruthlessness. . It was silly. But, it reminds me of any other retribution movie of the 2010's with gratuitous violence.
13:49 - 13:55 I think he's referring to how Victor killed Seline's family, said it was the Lycans, and then turned her; how her actions against the vampires were her vengeance for their betrayal of her loyalty and trust... despite her still fighting for the vampires against the Lycans?
Thats one hell of stretch I have to say, and doesn't ring true for me considering firstly how victor is never mentioned, and also according selene at the start of the film it was lycans who killed her family, this film doesn't seem to give continuity a high priority.
have to disagree there, the vampires were very much the bad guys, the idividual vampires like selene may not have been aware of it, but the ideolgy of the leading vampires was at first enslavement and then genocide when enslavement failed.
I am quite a fan of the series. Loved the first Underworld, Evolution was actually quite ok for me, Rise of the Lycans was interesting though not my favourite, Awakening...could've been worse but ye plot was shit. I saw Blood Wars however.... and it's an irredeemable pile of crap. Can't wait for your review of it.
The world knows about vampires and they drink synthetic blood.... this is what the film is essentially saying: Hello True Blood, you have some cool ideas, mind if I unoriginaly steal them for about 88 minutes? Thanks.
It never made sense to my why the vampires were almost instinct. I get the lycans have a track record of being able to beat them in a fight, but follow this beat: Both vampires and lycans can add to their numbers with a single bite with a 100% success rate, as long as they are not of the opposite race (not counting those of the Corneus lineage). I can understand Lycans not wanting to increase their numbers rapidly in the first film. Lucian's mission was to broker peace, which would be harder to do if he couldn't keep a reign of everyone. Makes perfect sense! The vampires, though? They've stated several times that their numbers are dwindling. That they're an endangered species, basically. So why don't they go on a "campaign drive" of sorts and convert as many as they can! I know some are bound to bring up their food source like in the Daybreakers movie, but unlike in that movie, the vampires were able to develop synthetic human blood since the first movie, so what's the point of them holding back?! The vampires clearly have the financial resources to funnel into R&D to make it airborne if they wanted to. That's why it would make way more sense to have it where they began infecting the world to turn everyone into vampires, and the lycans escalated in kind. That way you now have a very public world war where humanity is now threatened with extinction and Celine is the one trying to save them and broker a peace treaty, continuing Lucian's mission. Now that would have been an awesome Underworld sequel!
the guy you keep calling scrappy doo played dyson on lost girl who was also a werewolf lol i just find that interesting though im betting he is better as dyson
I've noticed that the guy who plays the scientist i is a pretty sure sign of the "quality" of the film you're about to watch. A bad one. Also, I really can't believe this series is still getting theatrical releases. Why hasn't this been relegated to the realm of direct-to-dvd schlock, yet? And I guess Charles Dance just really wanted a jet ski that year.
I just figured her change came from the fact humans were now killing them all. So in the previous, she didn't kill them because she had no reason to. They didn't know they existed and they didn't feed on humans. Killing willy nilly would have threatened that. Edit: She said no one survives being bitten by both. That guy one can assume wasn't bitten but was born a vampire.
I was told that this was not how the original Underworld franchise was suppose to start out It started with the hybrid if anyone knows where I can find the original story of Underworld just let me know.
This whole movie felt really rushed and pretty much threw a way some of the nuances and complexities involved with the whole vampire/werewolf war. I liked some of the ideas like the hybrid blood having special properties and the idea of Selena and Michael having a child, but the execution left alot to be desired. It overall felt mostly forgettable compared to previous movies. The whole time skip where humanity is now involved in the conflict kind of annoyed me because that whole aspect pretty much gets ignored and unneccessary later on when the lycans get involved. It felt kind of pointless. The lycans infiltrating into human society also didn't make much sense to me. If anything that is something the vampires would do considering past movies established lycans being more feral and wanting to live in peace.
the ammo magazines where strapped behind her clearly, and due to the tight corridor of the ventilation shaft she couldn't fully eject or load the magazines, atleast that's how it looked to me
@@deusdeaconReviews oh yeah they could have made it more clear, but i mean i just assumed that was why she didn't reload, i mean, to my knowledge, which is incredibly rusty, she doesn't change magazines before that scene and i just assumed she brought extra magazines, i mean, no one would be dumb enough to storm a place with only two magazines, but given the shotty writing that does plague this particular entry, i mean, the writers would have probably thought it worked, my guess is they had a scene where she tried and failed to reload, but some editor thought ti was a pointless scene and cut it, happens a lot in movies, to scenes that really matter, but that's just my opinion, i'm in no way apologizing for this shit storm of a film, it pretty much broke the franchise which would have spawned so much more if they had decent writers, but ah well
PS. Reacting to CGI is not inherently bad, or automatically unconvincing. Look at what Disney did with the live action Jungle Book. That's probably the most realistic and layered CGI to date in a film, and the only thing real in the entire film was the kid playing Mowgli.
My thought is...WHY THE FUCK DOES SELENE NOT TRY THAT BLOOD RESURRECTION SHIT FOR THE OTHER VAMPIRES!!! YOU COULDA SAVED THE VAMPIRE RACE AND MADE THEM DAYWALKERS!!!
Soooooo don’t leave me in suspense …. Did you enjoy the movie ? 😂 great review and agree with everything you said dude! It’s shame, 4th could have been epic if they went right way with it
In fairness, they gave up on the "vampire bite kills wolf and wolf kills vampire" thing as soon as they said it. Marcus gets Wolf blood in the end of Underworld 1 and gets super powers, I think maybe it was just another lie Marcus told Victor that he was afraid to test.
@@deusdeaconReviews We are both, in fairness jumping to conclusions without supporting info. They mentioned the fatal bites one time and never gave proof, we see no vampires bite any wolfs and until this movie, all wolf bites also ripped the vamps throats out. Agree it's not consistent and move on?
The funny thing is that making the werewolves be the people who infiltrate society is pretty stupid anyway, so they got it doubly wrong making them the bad guys doing that. The werewolves have always been shown as being more feral, and forced to live on the fringes, while the vampires live in mansions. So we are supposed to believe that Lucian died, and that encouraged them to all stop behaving like animals, get high paying jobs/run for office, and start this plot. It would have made much more sense to keep up with the vampire bad guys thing and have her help the werewolves who are being victimised by the vampire, with some vampires also helping them as they don't agree with it. If they wanted to ignore all 3 previous films so much, why even bother with 12 years later and having the start of the film, just make it obvious it's a complete reset and in a different world to the last 3 films.
I've always enjoyed your reviews, so I don't want to sound nitpicky. But, this wasn't the first movie in the series to feature the word "fuck". In the first Underworld movie, Michael used it twice ;)
Not nitpick at all, I realised the mistake after uploading the video, i think the reason why it didn't register in my mind is the first film f-bombs feel justified and in character for the situation, this film F-bomb felt so unnecessary and excessive to me, but yeah it is a mistake simple as that
the movie is not quite engaging i fell asleep like five times watching it, but the action is some of the best in the series so far to me and i like the cgi too i know its cheesy but i think it fits in the visual of the film. 6/10 i do think the purge makes kinda sense cause alexander died in evolution so no one cleans up now, then humans find out and we generally dont look very kindely to the unkown especially if we feel threatned wich in a case where the other species are supposedly stronger than us is what happens. shot first questions later
12:35 Selene the goddess of the moon has a strong association with ethernal sleep Selene asked Zeus, the leader of the Greek gods, to give the youth eternal life and to make him sleep forever. Zeus, who loved Selene and was her lover by some accounts, agreed, and the young man remained young and asleep for all time. she had children with this sleeping guy if i remember correctly PS: the horse from Evolution, Selene is a lover of Horses, like she loves not is fucking
I'm getting Resident Evil vibes from this movie right off the bat. And not the decentish okay first one. I'm talking 3rd movie on bullshit. XD Edit: Also she was put upside down because she's a bat. GET IT?!? XD Edit Edit: Wait... is this an Ultraviolet knock off?
@@deusdeaconReviews I figured it was something like that. I've already seen it, but I still enjoy having them on in the background while I work at my computer.
I don't need to watch these films. It's enough to watch these wonderfully funny reviews of the films. I saw the original "Underworld," which was pretty good, imo., and they should have left it at that. I did see "Rise of the Lycans," could barely get through it. Didn't bother watching any of the others. Now I know why. Lol.
+KiramidHead I thought that they had plans to remake it. Well I hope that they improve on this one. They could do another prequel showing Kravens alliance with that guy(can't spell his name).
It's honestly quite unfortunate that India Eisley (the actress for Eve) got saddled with such a terrible script. I've seen her in other things and she's an alright actress
The following is logical explanations for stupid ass choices that were made in this film by the writers, that will be updated as I watch this video. Warning, there always is some logic behind everything, but that doesn't mean that it's not a stupid, stupid idea. 1. she's hanging upside down because she's a bat, and bat's sleep upside down.
+SMEAR dot EXE yeah but unfortunetly these kinds of movie sequels are inevitable, just like the next resident evil film, no one wants it, but were getting it regardless.
One thing I'm going to nitpick you for here. The Lycan were never heroes or good guys. Lucien was a good guy who wanted a peace treaty, and he was pretty much the leader of all the Lycans. With him gone, some of them probably went bestial, while others followed whomever else happened to come along and was strong enough to lead them.
right but until this film the only leader we've seen is someone who wanted to stop the fighting by either peace or victory so i don't understand your point, they're may have been bad guy lycan leaders but we never saw that, and as the point of the last three films has pretty much been "vampires are bastards" thats makes them the good guys to me, lucian was the lycans and the lycans were lucian as far as I'm concerned.
@@deusdeaconReviews I understand your point, but to me it's like saying 'I've only ever seen good humans, so all humans must be good.' Even if I'm right, however, I will admit it made for a really harsh tonal shift. I think I didn't realize it as much as you, because the only time I saw this movie was at a discount matinee when it came out. about four years after seeing 1 & 2.
I get your point also but life and a written story are very different things, for a story if its not shown at all then it didn't happen, a multitude of thing can happen in life yes but in a story its written a very specific way to tell a very specific story, unless its a resident evil film of course
The humans found out about the vampire+werewolves coz alexander is dead so there's no 1 cleaning up for them.
are you sure about that ? cause in the sequel blood wars the vampires and lycans seem to be doing pretty good for themselves with no one stopping them, almost like the vampires and werewolves being discovered aspect of this movie didn't really happen, So I wouldn't really bother trying to fit this film into the canon, the filmmakers aren't.
@@deusdeaconReviews that's true. Which begs the question if Alexander was alive this whole time until his death in evolution, then where was he in the prequal rise of the lycans. Was he not cleaning their messes then or did it only matter for the plot in the second film🤔
No, Underworld! That's a very bad Underworld! You leave Charles Dance out of this. That man is a treasure, god damn it!
I think they included Charles Dance in this movie to vamp him up for the Dracula Untold movie. But where I could see the possibilities of a better "Dark Universe" in that movie than the Tom Cruise Mummy movie, in this series, they were just setting him up to die in the next sequel.
If you researched real cryogenics they do actually put people in the tanks upside down. That way if for some reason power goes out, liquid nitrogen shipments cease, and the body starts to thaw the liquid nitrogen at the bottom of the canister takes longer to evaporate making the head salvageable even if the rest of the body is not.
right so the fact that selene is clearly not submerged in liquid nitrogen makes the storing upside down pointless from technical level as well.
Not necessarily. We don't know what she's stored in but we do know that upside down is the real world way of storing frozen bodies. I was going to make a comment about the glass making the whole freezing thing rather impossible but future science is a magical thing and how dare we judge them
So basically don't question it.
That lycan in the brown jacket I'm almost certain played Dyson, a werewolf in Lost Girl, and his character dressed in almost the exact same way.
Edit: Got a better look. That is ABSOLUTELY Dyson from Lost Girl.
So basically the writer took the marvel character of x-23 , and made her a vampire...
Ok😐
I think, if anything, that is entirely unfair to X-23, who is not remotely shit enough to be able to fit into Underworld.
Isn't the scene where they restart the heart by giving a squish from the second Matrix movie?
23:20 I think the doctor statement makes sense with his character. If you just assume that he is the Victor of lycans, and see vampires the same way Victor saw lycans. But that's the problem. Assume. Not explained, or better yet, shown.
The thing it's that the ending to Evolution let them free to go any direcction they wanted, being this a good premise, but they introduced the changes in their world as backstory, instead of showing us how everything got this way in the film.
A movie that opens with contradictions to the previous films despite using footage from those films? This is Lawnmower Man 2 and Paranormal Activity: The Ghost Dimension all over again!
Except those two failures are entertaining for bad reasons, while this movie is just stupid.
Hew Man Lawnmower Man 2 is ironically entertaining, PA: TGD is just frustrating and asinine. The few compliments I can give to the latter movie (eg. some, the keyword being _some_ of the CGI effects look cool, especially for a low budget movie), but they’re not enough to salvage it. The film has so many continuity errors that it makes me dumber just thinking about them. There’s also tons of moments that can be summed up with the MST3K quote “They just didn’t care.” Though I admit, this is one of the few films where I enjoy talking about why I hate the film rather than being to spiteful to make a conversation about it fun.
I'm surprised no one mentioned that Kris Holden-Ried (Quint aka Scrappy Doo) also played a werewolf in Lost Girl.
RPDevJesco I was just wondering that. ..
I was looking for this comment
I like Underworld Awakening, it's underrated to me in the series. Also "Lost Girl" is a good show.
@@johnnyraven7980 it's not underrated, it's just not very good. Less than mediocre.
they didn't know where to go after the first 3
I can say right now, that if they had gone the route of having the girl, be Seline and Michael’s daughter, instead of the science experiment/clone angle, a lot of the changes in Seline’s behavior would have made a lot of sense, with Michael being dead, and their child in danger. Mama Bears, are terrifying.
Wasn't she? Isn't that implied, especially since her transformation isn't as altering as Michael's since she's 3/4 vampire and 1/4 lycan; and since her eyes are black with vampire blue on top while Michael's were just black, showing a combination of Selene's and Michael's ?
Maybe Selene was diagnosed with the same disease that turned Batman into Crazy Steve.
Thumbs up for Linkara reference.
That would only make sense if Frank Miller wrote the script for this movie. We should all be thankful that this didn't happen.
Given what lycan and vampires can do and humans are one of their favourite meals on some level it makes sense to get rid of them not alot of sense but some sense.
Vampires were drinking synthetic blood and the werewolves can eat meat.
It doesn't really make sense at all... vampirism and lycanthropy are essentially cures for death, old age and all human illnesses... if we could unlock the secret to a pure Corvinus strain, as in what Alexander Corvinus was(he didn't need to feed on blood to live, was just an immortal man with superhuman stats), then humanity would pretty much ascend to transhumanism overnight. So wiping out the vampires and lycans would be the absolute last thing anyone with a brain would even consider doing.
@@wiseguy01 Pretty much so. After transformation you are still the same person, but now with awesome powers, immortality, and some minor quirks. After the discovery of these races, people, politicians included, will beg vampires and/or lycans to bite them.
I think it would be a little more complicated than that
I think people underestimate the existential fear that the average humans would have learning they’re a prey species.
welp... no wonder the human are so quick to murder every vampire after what Seline just did lol
also fun fact the gu who plays scrapy is actually a favourite actor of mine from one of my older favourite shows "Lost Girl" a place of faes (idk how to spell that) basically whatever magic fairy thing u can think of is real and fucked up in one way or the other and he also plays a werewolf in that movie
You break so many of your own windows.
Don't knock it till you've tried it, its my addiction.
It does look really fun.
I still can't seem to figure out who the target demographic for this franchise is.
I'm sure the film makers don't even know anymore.
Why don't they just reboot it then?! I don't think the fans care about it anymore. "Start fresh and do what you want with it!!!" Because personaly i couldn't even bother to watch the latest film, i read the comic and didn't realy care. Why would i care about a 90 minutes film that is inferior to the first three films!!!
I thought it was like harlequin romance for goth girls, but they got rid of the boytoy so what's the point?
Selene in Evolution: “If you don’t anticipate your cravings, you’ll attack humans. And believe me, you don’t want that on your conscience.”
Selene in Awakening: 6:56
I fucking died at the "ammo up her arse".
Didn't care to mention that Scrappy is type cast his a werewolf type fae in Lost Girl.
Selene cheats a lot: 0 damage from a sunlight bomb in her face, ignores being shot in the brain by a silver bullet, and then literally looks at the plot to see where to go next.
20:25 To be fair, she did also cut her hand, thereby transferring some of her Corvinus-enhanced blood directly to his heart and bloodstream. So, another Corvinus/vampire hybrid. Yay!
Yeah, I guess he missed this part.
I would have pointed out the heart restart from The Matrix but I'm a nitpick
Did you forget that by Awakening, she had fed on the blood of Alexander Corvinus? Hence why she was so much stronger.
Also, agree, this movie was garbage.
What I want to know is... how can a vampire get pregnant? Honestly, nothing in there is supposed to work if you know what I mean because she's un-bloody-dead!
Yes, back in the first movie, now the franchise has become far more supernatural-inclined.
Mademoiselle Beazulbub that the same question I am think of, even the audience have the same question too.
Underworld Awakening: The vampire movie in which is is VERY. IMPORTANT. that the lead vampire have delicately frosted pink lipstick on at all times, regardless of the circumstance. It seriously distracted me through the entire film the first time I saw it, because it makes no goddamn sense. It's a small nit-picky thing, but it still annoys the shit out of me. Like Henry Cavill's CGI face in Justice League.
I wish there was at least one movie with "Awakening" in the title that was good.
Awakenings with robin williams and robert de niro was pretty good.
Never heard of it, but i'll check it out.
drama about treating catatonic patients so its quite different to all this vampire and werewolf nonsense
It sounds interesting, thanks for the recommendation.
This decade was filled with trash movies and disappointments. I wasn’t surprised at this.
I love how the writers are still seemingly sticking with the disease/infection angle despite the prior films doing nothing to separate the pseudo-science from the psychic/supernatural characteristics of both species...but as previously noted the writers obviously gave no fucks about continuity...or common sense.
This film really didn't give a shit about the previous mythology. I hated everything about it. The killing of civilians, the lack of Speedman,the reveal of Subject 2. Sigh. And why aren't Selene's eyes silver?
never saw this one and im so glad i didn't
Charles dance is above this? Have you seen his filmography? He'll play anybody for a buck.
Just finished watching all your Underworld movie reviews, cant we expect one from the last one Blood Wars?
Yes, Of course.
Uh, dude, you do realize that atleast with Selene killing the soliders, normally something like that would be considered Self Defense. They are trying to kill her and the fact they are coming at her with assault rifles makes that obvious.
Yeah it's not perfect, but remember the police officers were just normal guys doing their jobs and thus Selene had no reason to seriously injure them. The soldiers meanwhile are guys who are intentionally coming after her and want to kill her. Simply being human doesn't change that.
Killing maybe, breaking in half and impaling with said rifle is excessive, the guy she bent in half was incapacitated for example, its not that she kills the bad guys its that she brutalises them, something she didn't even do to that degree to lycans the ones who she thought killed her family even the real killer of her family victor received a swift death.
Deusdaecon Reviews
Wait, not brutalize. The first time we see her kill a Lycan she literally empties her entire gun into the guy, when he's under her foot and can't even fight back.
How's that not brutal?
thinking about yes that was brutal the film also showed that it was excessive that was the point of that scene, whereas here its par for the course, but also you mention the soldiers but what about the scientist who she's stabs in the head for example, whether my assessment of that one moment is correct or not, doesn't negate the rest of the video about the rest of the film.
I think the writers simply marked this movie as backdrop noise for coitus.
Charles Dance should have played Victor, he has a much more commanding presence, he would have been quite frightening in the original movie. IMO
I gotta watch it, before Sony finds it.
+dehteg No need to worry, they just released all claim to the video, its mine ALLL MIIINE !! *ahem* sorry about that.
+Rising Zun yeah i know about that one i did mean this video specifically, celebrate every victory and all that.
+deusdeacon Don't be ashamed, savor your victory.
+deusdeacon no way yu kan drop video again or is dere n e way we kan watch the first one if we didn't already
Will you do a review of the blood wars?
Yes indeed I will.
I can only imagine American politics at this fucking world, we’d go for a Povich to Jerry Springer
Alice from Resident Evil vs. Seline for the crown of Queen Ridiculous
I'm sorry, but Ultraviolet wins this crown.
"And stationary security cameras don't move, you idiots!"
That made me laugh. To think that the cameras were even placed less that 6 feet high at the wall where anyone can reach.
I don't think Selene's willingness to kill the people attempting to murder her is an issue. Why wouldn't she defend herself? What was her alternative?
people (humans) have tried to kill her in the past and she didn't react that was so not an adequate excuse, also its not the killing i'm objecting to its the sheer brutality that makes it unnecessary.
@@deusdeaconReviews It appears they wanted to give her an admittedly sloppy, revenge "arc". I've always assumed the throwaway "Now we're even" line was as attempt to explain the ruthlessness. . It was silly. But, it reminds me of any other retribution movie of the 2010's with gratuitous violence.
13:49 - 13:55 I think he's referring to how Victor killed Seline's family, said it was the Lycans, and then turned her; how her actions against the vampires were her vengeance for their betrayal of her loyalty and trust... despite her still fighting for the vampires against the Lycans?
Thats one hell of stretch I have to say, and doesn't ring true for me considering firstly how victor is never mentioned, and also according selene at the start of the film it was lycans who killed her family, this film doesn't seem to give continuity a high priority.
review evolution again...fuck pops up once. I just want to say...I love these movies, but your reviews are awesome...good luck and take care.
What I enjoyed about the first 3 is that neither was the bad guy just creatures at war
have to disagree there, the vampires were very much the bad guys, the idividual vampires like selene may not have been aware of it, but the ideolgy of the leading vampires was at first enslavement and then genocide when enslavement failed.
@@deusdeaconReviews I appreciate your view on it mate, I love the reviews
I am quite a fan of the series. Loved the first Underworld, Evolution was actually quite ok for me, Rise of the Lycans was interesting though not my favourite, Awakening...could've been worse but ye plot was shit. I saw Blood Wars however.... and it's an irredeemable pile of crap. Can't wait for your review of it.
DanTheApostate I feel like the entire movie was an excuse to give Selene more power blonde tips.
DanTheApostate They're making a sixth movie.
six, really
I actually enjoyed Blood Wars more than this movie.
Blood Wars was the only terrible Underworld movie to me.
The world knows about vampires and they drink synthetic blood.... this is what the film is essentially saying: Hello True Blood, you have some cool ideas, mind if I unoriginaly steal them for about 88 minutes? Thanks.
It never made sense to my why the vampires were almost instinct. I get the lycans have a track record of being able to beat them in a fight, but follow this beat:
Both vampires and lycans can add to their numbers with a single bite with a 100% success rate, as long as they are not of the opposite race (not counting those of the Corneus lineage).
I can understand Lycans not wanting to increase their numbers rapidly in the first film. Lucian's mission was to broker peace, which would be harder to do if he couldn't keep a reign of everyone. Makes perfect sense!
The vampires, though? They've stated several times that their numbers are dwindling. That they're an endangered species, basically. So why don't they go on a "campaign drive" of sorts and convert as many as they can!
I know some are bound to bring up their food source like in the Daybreakers movie, but unlike in that movie, the vampires were able to develop synthetic human blood since the first movie, so what's the point of them holding back?!
The vampires clearly have the financial resources to funnel into R&D to make it airborne if they wanted to.
That's why it would make way more sense to have it where they began infecting the world to turn everyone into vampires, and the lycans escalated in kind.
That way you now have a very public world war where humanity is now threatened with extinction and Celine is the one trying to save them and broker a peace treaty, continuing Lucian's mission.
Now that would have been an awesome Underworld sequel!
I get the strangest feeling you didn't like this film...
Really ? That is strange
@@deusdeaconReviews
Lol....
the guy you keep calling scrappy doo played dyson on lost girl who was also a werewolf lol i just find that interesting though im betting he is better as dyson
I've seen several eps of "Lost Girl". He is, lol.
I've noticed that the guy who plays the scientist i is a pretty sure sign of the "quality" of the film you're about to watch. A bad one.
Also, I really can't believe this series is still getting theatrical releases. Why hasn't this been relegated to the realm of direct-to-dvd schlock, yet? And I guess Charles Dance just really wanted a jet ski that year.
I just figured her change came from the fact humans were now killing them all. So in the previous, she didn't kill them because she had no reason to. They didn't know they existed and they didn't feed on humans. Killing willy nilly would have threatened that.
Edit: She said no one survives being bitten by both. That guy one can assume wasn't bitten but was born a vampire.
Killing now still going to raise suspicion.
And shes upside down because VAMPIRE, that whole visuals and symbolism coming before sense thing movies do a lot more of these days
oh god this movie is turning into resident Anderson
I was told that this was not how the original Underworld franchise was suppose to start out It started with the hybrid if anyone knows where I can find the original story of Underworld just let me know.
This whole movie felt really rushed and pretty much threw a way some of the nuances and complexities involved with the whole vampire/werewolf war. I liked some of the ideas like the hybrid blood having special properties and the idea of Selena and Michael having a child, but the execution left alot to be desired. It overall felt mostly forgettable compared to previous movies. The whole time skip where humanity is now involved in the conflict kind of annoyed me because that whole aspect pretty much gets ignored and unneccessary later on when the lycans get involved. It felt kind of pointless. The lycans infiltrating into human society also didn't make much sense to me. If anything that is something the vampires would do considering past movies established lycans being more feral and wanting to live in peace.
This is the thps5 of films aka smurfette's "dark and gritty reboot"
the ammo magazines where strapped behind her clearly, and due to the tight corridor of the ventilation shaft she couldn't fully eject or load the magazines, atleast that's how it looked to me
Then they should’ve made that clear which they did not but I guess apologists for bad direction do the work for them
@@deusdeaconReviews oh yeah they could have made it more clear, but i mean i just assumed that was why she didn't reload, i mean, to my knowledge, which is incredibly rusty, she doesn't change magazines before that scene and i just assumed she brought extra magazines, i mean, no one would be dumb enough to storm a place with only two magazines, but given the shotty writing that does plague this particular entry, i mean, the writers would have probably thought it worked, my guess is they had a scene where she tried and failed to reload, but some editor thought ti was a pointless scene and cut it, happens a lot in movies, to scenes that really matter, but that's just my opinion, i'm in no way apologizing for this shit storm of a film, it pretty much broke the franchise which would have spawned so much more if they had decent writers, but ah well
Theres a fifth one coming out next year
I am more then aware, Trust me.
Are you also aware of Resident Evil the Final Chapter?
I made particularly ranty post on the facebook fan page all about the terrible trailer for the terrible looking film.
PS. Reacting to CGI is not inherently bad, or automatically unconvincing. Look at what Disney did with the live action Jungle Book. That's probably the most realistic and layered CGI to date in a film, and the only thing real in the entire film was the kid playing Mowgli.
And it's getting bad reviews so far.
The way that guy said his aim is to stop the virus spreading just leaves me thinking he wants to infect everybody doesn't he
29:39 This was the equivalent of Alex O'Connell from the Mummy Returns saying "Oh please!" How dare you ruin Jonathan's catchphrase!
Did Paul Anderson have a writing credit in this because this movie feels like resident Alice and you don’t want to be resident Alice
6:09 holy shit that was violent
My thought is...WHY THE FUCK DOES SELENE NOT TRY THAT BLOOD RESURRECTION SHIT FOR THE OTHER VAMPIRES!!! YOU COULDA SAVED THE VAMPIRE RACE AND MADE THEM DAYWALKERS!!!
Believe it or not the B's Dr is played by inspector finc from V for vendetta
Am I missing something ? what makes that casting choice as opposed to any other unbelievable ?
Upside down because bats.
2:03 I totally missed that
The fact that it's 1 hr 20 mins long is even more insulting to the fan
Soooooo don’t leave me in suspense …. Did you enjoy the movie ? 😂 great review and agree with everything you said dude! It’s shame, 4th could have been epic if they went right way with it
In fairness, they gave up on the "vampire bite kills wolf and wolf kills vampire" thing as soon as they said it. Marcus gets Wolf blood in the end of Underworld 1 and gets super powers, I think maybe it was just another lie Marcus told Victor that he was afraid to test.
marcus got superpowers because like micheal he is a decendent/relative of corvinus
@@deusdeaconReviews We are both, in fairness jumping to conclusions without supporting info. They mentioned the fatal bites one time and never gave proof, we see no vampires bite any wolfs and until this movie, all wolf bites also ripped the vamps throats out. Agree it's not consistent and move on?
also quick question i am just wondering are you going to cover the new underworld movie just wondering
Yes I will.
Deusdaecon Reviews ok that should be fun to see
Fuck...this... movie.What happened to Selen's Silver Eyes?
The funny thing is that making the werewolves be the people who infiltrate society is pretty stupid anyway, so they got it doubly wrong making them the bad guys doing that. The werewolves have always been shown as being more feral, and forced to live on the fringes, while the vampires live in mansions. So we are supposed to believe that Lucian died, and that encouraged them to all stop behaving like animals, get high paying jobs/run for office, and start this plot.
It would have made much more sense to keep up with the vampire bad guys thing and have her help the werewolves who are being victimised by the vampire, with some vampires also helping them as they don't agree with it.
If they wanted to ignore all 3 previous films so much, why even bother with 12 years later and having the start of the film, just make it obvious it's a complete reset and in a different world to the last 3 films.
looks like selene has ended up like john rambo because they are both brutal as fuck
I've always enjoyed your reviews, so I don't want to sound nitpicky. But, this wasn't the first movie in the series to feature the word "fuck". In the first Underworld movie, Michael used it twice ;)
Not nitpick at all, I realised the mistake after uploading the video, i think the reason why it didn't register in my mind is the first film f-bombs feel justified and in character for the situation, this film F-bomb felt so unnecessary and excessive to me, but yeah it is a mistake simple as that
isnt the big bad dude also in v for vendetta?
Yeah I think so but I forgot who he was in that film
I'm getting resident Anderson vibes from this movie
the movie is not quite engaging i fell asleep like five times watching it, but the action is some of the best in the series so far to me and i like the cgi too i know its cheesy but i think it fits in the visual of the film. 6/10
i do think the purge makes kinda sense cause alexander died in evolution so no one cleans up now, then humans find out
and we generally dont look very kindely to the unkown especially if we feel threatned wich in a case where the other species are supposedly stronger than us is what happens. shot first questions later
12:35 Selene the goddess of the moon has a strong association with ethernal sleep
Selene asked Zeus, the leader of the Greek gods, to give the youth eternal life and to make him sleep forever. Zeus, who loved Selene and was her lover by some accounts, agreed, and the young man remained young and asleep for all time.
she had children with this sleeping guy if i remember correctly
PS: the horse from Evolution, Selene is a lover of Horses, like she loves not is fucking
Logan did the emo kid cutting her arm lol but better
I guess you can make the argument that she's killing to survive, but I ain't gonna defend this movie
Gotta update this series too bro
You haven't seen my video on blood wars yet then ?
I never got the hate for this one, it's got great action, a interesting different story. Selene goes badass in this movie.
Johnny raven I know, I thought it was quite good and took the mythos into a new direction
I'm getting Resident Evil vibes from this movie right off the bat. And not the decentish okay first one. I'm talking 3rd movie on bullshit. XD
Edit: Also she was put upside down because she's a bat. GET IT?!? XD
Edit Edit: Wait... is this an Ultraviolet knock off?
why did they michael just to replace him
What's that song in your intro?
Selene says Fuck in Evolutions, so not the first time. Sorry
Micheal says it in the first film, I know i have spoken about this elsewhere and why it was still note worthy here despite not being first
Did the first Underworld review get taken down? I can't find it.
its been copyright claimed its available in only very limited regions
@@deusdeaconReviews I figured it was something like that. I've already seen it, but I still enjoy having them on in the background while I work at my computer.
Is it just me, or does the heart-revival scene remind me of the scene from Matrix Reloaded?
As stupid as that film was at least the heart restart made sense there
I don't need to watch these films. It's enough to watch these wonderfully funny reviews of the films. I saw the original "Underworld," which was pretty good, imo., and they should have left it at that. I did see "Rise of the Lycans," could barely get through it. Didn't bother watching any of the others. Now I know why. Lol.
and you haven't gotten to blood wars yet
9:16 this is exactly her, she acts that way with her enemies
Underworld: Selene the Ripper
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Oh, they're making a Part 5. Have fun. ;)
+KiramidHead I thought that they had plans to remake it. Well I hope that they improve on this one. They could do another prequel showing Kravens alliance with that guy(can't spell his name).
Rigor Mortis
They were talking about rebooting it for a while, then after months with no word Beckinsale signed for a sequel.
I dont see the point.
It's honestly quite unfortunate that India Eisley (the actress for Eve) got saddled with such a terrible script. I've seen her in other things and she's an alright actress
The following is logical explanations for stupid ass choices that were made in this film by the writers, that will be updated as I watch this video. Warning, there always is some logic behind everything, but that doesn't mean that it's not a stupid, stupid idea.
1. she's hanging upside down because she's a bat, and bat's sleep upside down.
Silver atomic bomb should be effective enough
Silver to kill the lycans, the nuclear power of the sun to kill the vamps, a new level of mutually assured destruction.
jokes on you, new underworld in 2016
+SMEAR dot EXE I already knew about that, not sure why the joke would be on me, like I said, underworld is a trilogy.
+deusdeacon oh nah i was kidding. you said you were hoping they wouldn't continue it. i wish theyd let it rest
+SMEAR dot EXE yeah but unfortunetly these kinds of movie sequels are inevitable, just like the next resident evil film, no one wants it, but were getting it regardless.
true, aint that gunna be the last one though?
+SMEAR dot EXE we can only hope, theres talks of a reboot.
I am officially coining the phrase like a movie reviewer in a china shop after that opening
One thing I'm going to nitpick you for here. The Lycan were never heroes or good guys. Lucien was a good guy who wanted a peace treaty, and he was pretty much the leader of all the Lycans. With him gone, some of them probably went bestial, while others followed whomever else happened to come along and was strong enough to lead them.
right but until this film the only leader we've seen is someone who wanted to stop the fighting by either peace or victory so i don't understand your point, they're may have been bad guy lycan leaders but we never saw that, and as the point of the last three films has pretty much been "vampires are bastards" thats makes them the good guys to me, lucian was the lycans and the lycans were lucian as far as I'm concerned.
@@deusdeaconReviews I understand your point, but to me it's like saying 'I've only ever seen good humans, so all humans must be good.' Even if I'm right, however, I will admit it made for a really harsh tonal shift. I think I didn't realize it as much as you, because the only time I saw this movie was at a discount matinee when it came out. about four years after seeing 1 & 2.
I get your point also but life and a written story are very different things, for a story if its not shown at all then it didn't happen, a multitude of thing can happen in life yes but in a story its written a very specific way to tell a very specific story, unless its a resident evil film of course
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