How to Make Flash Cotton
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I can't believe I'm actually going to say this but I actually really enjoyed the sponsored ad.
The bit for the ad was cool but you guys need to rethink being sponsored by Raid. Take a look at their reviews on the app store. More than half of them talk about how it's pay to win and how predatory the microtransactions are. They literally have a paywall for you to be able to progress past a certain point.
7:33 I graduated my chem class around a month ago, the color difference is due to concentration of the acid, and concentration of other contaminants.
My class and I did a lab working with acids, and we made muriatic (Hydrochloric acid(stomach)) acid crystals, then reconstituted them and diluted them to avoid danger.
The crystals were tan in color due to some contamination that we added in one of the trials.
(Edit 1)
The “fumpyness” in the white fluffy cotton is due to better nitration, and washing (theoretically).
My advice: try longer nitrations, more baking soda bathes (separated by more water bathes (use distilled for best results ( new water each time))), and then let it dry under more controlled conditions.
Other than that: TheKingOfRandom released a video a few years ago on several forms of nitrocellulose, I recommend checking it out.
th-cam.com/video/irLPpr7Nf9U/w-d-xo.html
I might try this and post a video on it... Thank you for the idea, I will give you guys credit though.
16:28 kwhitest of the kwhite
I'm still not playing Raid, but your commercial was A+.
if more ads were like this, I would watch more of them.
For a game that literally plays itself, 🤷♂️it's ight.
Idk how bad games get enough money to sponsor you tubers to advertise theyre game
@@cya6109 it's not as much as you would think most of the time. They make an engaging advertisement, with a million subs. I am sure they probably got like 2 grand to advertise that game. That isn't that much. That's probably less then the developer spent on the computer used to make the game.
@@johndoe-zs6gf well welcome to japan
Chemist in a previous life here:
1. Cover the bowl when you leave it to nitrate. You'll lose water to evaporation, and your side products can crystallize... and apparently turn green.
2. Rinse your final product ad nauseum. You don't want anything but the nitrocellulose. Any other compounds left over will leave a residue when burning. You've done well if the final cotton is white and there's no evidence it ever existed when you burn it.
3. FLUFF IT UP. Even though it's more flammable than the default cotton, it's still just a fuel. You need a fuel-air mixture to burn quickly.
edit: 4. Don't leave it to dry in the sunshine. Just in case you did the preparation well, there's a tiny chance you'll come back to an empty sheet of aluminum.
What does ad nauseam mean?
@@Coentjemons It technically means "until nauseated" when translated directly from Latin, but in practice it means "repeatedly...well more than you'd think you need".
Coen M Loosly, “until you’re sick of doing it.” It basically means to do it a lot, and then some. More than you’d think is necessary.
Does a longer nitrate time matter to engage a longer or fiercer burn, or does it hit a simple saturation point and whatever’s leftover is just lost to waste?
Chris J Peavy It mostly depends on the concentration and quantity of the reactants used. It doesn’t hurt to wait a short while for the nitration to go to completion, but what determines how long it takes is how much nitric acid to cotton you have. Too much cotton and not all of it nitrates, and too much acid could mean you’re wasting excess acid down the line if you don’t know how to purify it. If anything, waiting too long could destabilize the flash cotton or cause too many unwanted byproducts to contaminate it, like in the video, but giving it like a day to nitrate while covered shouldn’t hurt anything, and it should ensure the reaction has gone to completion. Just make sure to clean the cotton very thoroughly before using it. It should look like ordinary cotton by the time you’re done cleaning it, or with a slight yellow tinge at the very most.
Once again the modern rogue supports our fellow pyromaniacs
My favourite part is that they are burning things on a wooden desk.
Any good pyro knows what's flammable out of the gate
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Heck to the yeah
I'm disappointed that they were sponsored by Raid, but that disappointment is gone after seeing how creative their sponsor segment was
they remind of off brand mythbusters except it's just two versions of adam savage
*neither of which knows anything.
@@ModernRogue the perfect storm of a show.
@@ModernRogue I see a tested collab in your future
The Heineman was the best!!!
Nah, they remind me more of Jamie.
DO NOT LEAVE THE NITRIC ACID COTTON MIX OVERNIGHT. Soak in acid for a couple minutes, rinse thoroughly in clean water, allow to dry (air dry or oven dry with extremely low heat, no flame). Ignite and stand back :)
If you rinseit thoroughly, there will be very little yellowing of the cotton and very little residue. Impurities in your nitric acid solution can lead to more discoloration and a slower burn, depending on the impurity. The sodium bicarbonate solution is only necessary to deactivate the remaining acid when you finish nitrating the cotton and in case of acid spill emergencies.
Allowing the nitric acid to form a cake around the cotton makes it significantly harder to wash the impurities and leftover nitric acid from the cotton.
Please like this response to get it to Brian's attention.
*Fire in thumbnail*
“Well, reset the injury counter”
*Roll it back*
Whenever a remotely dangerous object in play, the Brushwood will hurt himself on it
-Newton's hidden 4th law
This channel is like if the last two men on earth decided to just rediscover science stuff
“I’m so glad that we don’t claim to know anything” tells you everything you need to know about the Modern Rogues
"Maybe we're gonna be superheros after this!"
Guys, you're already superheros.
Awwwwwe
Then the way he lowers his mask
Fire boy and captain grandpa pants
Hey the yellow stuff is impurities from the nitration. I see you didnt use the pure acids so its all the gunk which wasnt nitric acid or sulfuric acid. Could also be due to not washing it enough
Bsc hons chemistry
Could be the potassium sulphate that wasn’t washed off too
Good to see some validation for my hypothesis.
So, if you use budget ingredients, you get budget results?
Makes sense to me.
Thanks!
They should check out NurdRage channel on how to purify sulfuric acid.
Your channel is the only channel where I actually watch the sponsorship, good job.
Because they're awesome
Only channel that does it classy
@@mablestark6501 movie riot too
Except Raid. Fuck raid.
14:15 (Watching Brian stuff gun cotton into a firework)
"Get ready to reset the clock!"
"You don't want runaway heat... So..."
No, no, no... Say it like it is: "You don't want boiling acid in your face." XD
technically a runaway would be worse than just boiling acid in the face once it reaches a certain temperature all the nitrocellulose detonates at once and the container becomes a frag grenade
@@Aaron-zu3xn an acidic frag grenade at that
@@Aaron-zu3xn I'll build one.
"I'd like to do some research on why..." - proceeds to ask viewers if they know lmao. love you guys.
That is how they do research. Outsourcing.
Watch the latest Captain Disillusion for an example, though TH-camrs are very aware that anything they do wrong will be called out in the comments.
So why not turn that into your tool?
@@Maninawig nah i was only making an observation about it, i don't really have strong feelings one way or the other lol. i can agree tho, it is a lot like just steering into the skid.
You know, I can probably recite that Raid script by heart with how many channels are advertising it but that was without a doubt the best version of it yet!
Now I have to see Modern Rogue Create a flamethrower... It HAS to happen.
That's too easily done for this show. They've gotta have content.
Molotov cocktail
That's a terrible idea
*next time on modern rogue*
Check out “The King of Random” they’ve built at least a couple of them.
easy get like a super soaker fill it with corn starch and ta da!
16:25 - Excellent out of context soundbite "I think we really want the whitest of the white within the party".
Couldn't help myself
Instantly demonitized
"it looks just like a triple a console game!"
"Shut up"
xd
Come on kid. I'm doing a bit here.
Always fun seeing people sell out...
That's actually real. There was a commercial in the 80s or 90s for a video-game where a barker was shouting the features of the game to a bunch of people and actually responded to a question with "shut up!" (I can't remember what game it was for, Sonic? Mario? 🤔)
@@bastian_5975 Gotta get paid somehow, at least it's entertaining.
@@bastian_5975 do you support the modern rogue on patreon? If not..shut the fuck up. The modern rogue is a business. Businesses need money to operate. Life isn't rainbows and cupcakes.
That "Shut up!" in the ad blasted me back to ads I didn't even realized I watched.
I remember a commercial where that actually happened, the barker responded to a question with "shut up!" I can't remember what game it was for. 🤔
@@user-vn7ce5ig1z no clue, but I get a feeling it was for a Sega console. Just seems right
My mans be rubbing his face with the glove on at 9:27
You must be new here; Jason and Brian aren’t known for their adherence to lab safety.
Have thrown students out of lab for that.
@Gary Oak it's all fun and games till someone gets deformed.
As someone who works at a medical lab, I'm not gonna lie, I've seen people do that. Yes it is exactly as cringe inducing as it sounds...
He was pushing his glasses up.
Love how the Modern Rogue makes these ads really fun to watch tbh, Seems like everyone seems to advertising this "Shadow Raid" schtick, they still make it very entertaining to watch the Ad part of the video.
Wow, the mythbusters made it seem so much more complicated and dangerous
That's because they had much more conservative lawyers
That's because they had -much more conservative- lawyers
@@basmeijs6973 And insurance company. And producer. They didn't even show how to make thermite or gunpowder when they made their own (which all is now readily available on the internet).
You have to be careful on big network tv, you know, ads and stuff. (OH WAIT!)
@@basmeijs6973 😂
LukelikesLego what do you think the episode on reading legislation was for?
The "yellow" cotton likely has more impurities and is more condensed, whereas the "white" has more volume and less non-burning impurities. No reaction is 100% efficient, so the fact there was fillers and other things in the household ingredients you had means there will be way more impurities than if you had used pure chemistry-grade reactants. Your nitrocellulose still works very well!
I have done this a couple of times and I would recommend using concentrated (98%) sulfuric acid and pure potassium nitrate. They are both very easy to find online and you can get both for under $25. Great video!
"So that's the sulfuric acid" - proceeds to hold face shield up so it doesn't accidentally actually protect face.
Okay this is the best commercial I've ever seen that hasn't been aired on the Super Bowl.
"Don't try this at home"
Listen, Murphy, I live in -FLORIDA-. If I don't, who will?
Someone from Poland or Russia?
"Mom do we have drain cleaner?!"
Florida man says "hold my beer, I got this" ie: If I don't, who will? Me and every other moron watching this video, obviously!
The summary of The Modern Rogue:
Two dudes doing "science" in hopes of geting superpowers.
i was cringing
When we did this in college, we tore it appart to be really fine before we dried it, also we didnt use sulfuric acid and potassium nitrate, but hydrochloric acid and nitric acid, which we mixed in a ratio of 3:1... then soak it, let it dry, tear appart again and then boom :)
Modern Rogue: We're doing science!
Actual Scientists: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?!
I was thinking it wasn't a bad representation of actual scientists (minus the gaping holes in knowledge). A lot of science goes something like:
Scientist1: 'Hey, I read online about a cool thing we can do with some stuff laying around.'
Scientist2: 'Ok neat. So we just add this stuff together and do this to it... is that normal?'
Scientist1:'uhhh.. I don't know they didn't mention that... should be ok?'
Scientist2: 'oh wow.. I can't believe that worked!'
The only difference between science and screwing around is writing it down.
@@bradywells1293
Exhibit A of misrepresentation of science.
Next week at The Modern Rouge,
Brian: We are going make Flare Gun
Jason: Exactly
Thank you for that ad skit.... They truely are a gem.
Holy shit! A TH-cam channel that actually demonetizes their own videos that include a paid advertisement! No one does this they all put ads in their videos against TH-cam rules but you guys actually follow rules and I love you for that!
Ah yes, the 1990s, when your hair got blown back every time you opened a new comic or tried a new cereal or switched on the modem.
Ive watched the entirety of that raid ad twice now because it is the best version of a raid ad on youtube
Thanks! We had fun.
It's actually a common misconception that it's "Science and Jason", it turns out that it's a corruption of the Latin "Science ad Jason", which translates to "Science until Jason", meaning that Jason is the ultimate outcome of Science.
I sincerely can't express how appreciative I am that they do these types of vids, by the seat of their pants. It not only does answer questions like "Can I do it like this instead?" but it shows what will happen if you do take those little shortcuts. And really, this only works because they give actual facts and data over the moments they're improvising.
Clicked off a modern rogue video to a modern rogue video
A modern rogue binge session? Hope you're ready to laugh your ass off
Happens every time I click an MR video. The chain never ends. Please help me
@@NondescriptIndividual Whatever you do do not binge the extended outtakes
This episode is more Modern. lol
Sometimes it be like that
This is a top 5 MR episode ever, possibly the best. Amazing content, and even the ad in the beginning was great.
Thanks so much!
That was the greatest promotion of a mobile game I have ever seen in my life
I gotta admit this has to be my favourite ad for Raid that I’ve seen on TH-cam, especially in a sponsorship. In which there has been a lot. For other uses of this I would have said Pro Wrestling, but that’s also a form of magic so
Ok but can we appreciate how much effort they put into making that ad for RAID 😂 like they should show that as a commercial from now on on other platforms. It was pretty good.
Thank you! 😊
"Oh, I would prefer the goggles over the face shield" said no one wearing glasses.
Only channel I actually watch the ads on 😂 absolute class
You know why the nitrocellulose is more flammable and does not “choke” when you put a bunch in a confined space? That is because of the added nitro groups (NO2) that give more oxygen to the hydrocarbon molecule of cellulose. This mixes a fuel and a oxidizer together. It means that the combustion of nitrocellulose does not need O2 (oxygen gas in the air) to occur, because it already has its own oxygen. That is roughly why the difference is so big.
C6H10O5 (cellulose) C6H7(NO2)3O5 (nitrocellulose)
~> 5 oxygen atoms ~> 11 oxygen atoms
I just noticed, Murphy says White just like Bob Ross does
TITANIUM HWHITE.
Apparently that's how it was pronounced through the centuries up through I think the 1950s and 60s and then it very gradually changed. Clearly it didnt disappear entirely, I here a lot of older people and/or more people from rural and southern parts of the U.S. pronounce it that way still
Johhny Cash also pronounced that combination of letters the same way, as you can hear in "Folsom Prisom Blues" in the words "when" and "whistle"
The Dark Sizzle liquid HWite
@@cubrakadabra I HWET MY HWISTLE
That’s one of the best Raid ads I’ve seen yet. Well done.
Also, this stuff can be used for some pretty legit cannons
"Is there a traditional use?"
Cue Balls, film, lacquer, ping pong balls, just to name a few old uses.
This makes sense, I remember on a camping trip we dropped a long long ball in the fire and it lit up like crazy
Smokeless powder
Smokeless gunpowder and ping pong balls mostly, yeah
Also in early mining as an alternative to gunpowder for splitting boulders⛏
Rocket propellant.
These guys are legends at making commercials.
5:56 There are other uses. Nitrocellulose is used in the following:
Ping-Pong Balls
Smokeless Gunpowder
Low-Smoke Firework Shows
Quarries (back then)
If you dissolve nitrocellulose in acetone, you can also make nitrocellulose lacquer for a DIY clear coat!
Holy crap, props to Brandt for learning the science. Lots of complicated chemistry and research in this one, so to go out of your way to piece together the actual science for the video is pretty cool.
This one was a John video, but thanks!
Watching you two attempting basic chemistry is the best lol
this is probably the best RSL ad i've ever seen. thank you, modern rogue.
Was anyone else getting more and more anxious and worried for Brian and Jason while reading through the
Material Safety Data Sheet?
Don’t over react to those. The one for play doh will make you terrified if you take it too seriously.
I saw many ads for Raid but this is the first one that actually got me somewhat interested to try it. Good job, guys!
please for your own sake do not ever neutralize acid that is on your hand wash it off instead. neutralizing causes a thermal reaction that may burn you
Honestly its a case to case basis with acids on how to react. Quite often it is safer not to were gloves, sometimes gloves will save your life. Some acids are safe to neutralize others are not. But you are right, if your not sure it is best to just wash it off, not neutralize it.
Nitric acid (if concentrated) reacts with gloves
Generally, though, I have been taught to wipe the chemical off with a towel (if possible) and then quickly rinse in loads of water
Fun fact if i recall some large caliber naval guns used gun cotton as propellent in favor of a traditional a primer shell to reduce weight, for example the shells for a 16 Inch gun could weigh over 1000-1200 pounds alone but gun cotton could be lifted into the barrel by a single man with little effort.
I always watch your ad integrations because they are genuinely entertaining. I'll never buy the product, but I watched your ad lol
That game ad was as good as the Big Rigs commercial made by the Angry Videogame Nerd. It was really Rad.
It's a different color because of oxidation. Nitric acid is an oxidizer. The acid we use to disolve gold also turns yellow/orange. Could also be trace elements from drain cleaner.
Pretty much my thoughts exactly I doubt if they got their hands on some more pure sulfuric acid It would discolor so much
That sponsorship section was so entertaining .
7:38 Maybe nitric acid was decomposing into water and nitrous dioxide
Doubt it, the solution had no3- ions that reacted with the cellulose, leaving behind an acidic solution (the lone h+ cations had nothing to react with so they stayed dissolved)
Nitric acid decomposes in to nitrogen dioxide which is brown
@@EthanGeye technically, nitrogen dioxide gas dissolves in water to create nitric acid (it is a reversible reaction, but if anything, they're promoting acid creation, as opposed to dioxide creation because they're using up dissolved nitrate ions)
My bet is on dye decomposition.
@@TheScuds I was talking about the dye used in the H2SO4. That shit looked like grape koolaid.
I think that was the only paid promotion ad that I liked
I for real always thought it was “Science and Jason” 😂
Science and Jason with Evan and katelyn
Whoever does the research and whoever does the animations; you do not go unappreciated
Nitrocellulose has applications in old-timey film development and gets a lot of current use in biochemistry labs and probably other industrial uses. It's useful for adhering proteins samples to a thin sheet of it, which can then be used for binding things like antibody-bound-fluorescent tags so you can look for specific proteins in samples.
Some other nitration reactions that should be familiar is TNT (tri-nitro-toluene) or nitro-glycerin, if you add some nitro groups to an organic molecule called toluene or glycerin (glycerol) you get a much more combustible/explosive version of them - similar to what you guys did here. You probably don't want to fuck with homemade TNT or nitroglycerin though.
The modern rogue ads are becoming an epic foe for Scam Nation’s
Modern Rogue excites me in ALL the right ways.
Sexually?
My balls are tingling as I’m writing this
@@jambi2118 is there any other way?
Victor P all y’all talking about my comment but no likes...also no there is no other way ...nut
Hey, I've said it for a while now. Instead of "legend testers", their science-show should be named ,"Science Adjacent with Brian and Jason". Rolls off the tongue real well
Brian-ce adJason-ent?
"That's wonderful and terribly irresponsible!" = Title of your next book!
If he ever titled his next book that, I am so buying it.
Yo this was legit my favorite type of modern rogue video. As for tips, nitric acid will eat through most types of gloves, so make sure the gloves you use are made out of tert-butyl rubber. Also, to make your cellulose nitrate better, use a mix of fuming nitric and sulfuric acid. You can distil the fuming nitric acid your self. Fuming nitric will catch nitrile gloves on fire, and quickly eat through other types, so make sure you use tert-butyl rubber. Again, I love these ghetto chemistry videos.
My version of flash cotton is wearing nothing but cotton underwear in public and flashing people
Do you soak them in nitric acid first or is that the finale?
Odd Fact from the Past: There was a Burlesque circuit performance called "Flash Cotton". The peculiar thing about it was that somehow audiences got the idea that "Flash Cotton" was the stage name of the dancer.
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1.5k views, 0 dislikes. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
Usually I skip the ads but sweet Lord I would watch an entire video of ads like that
"Better than a Tamagochi"
Bold claim friend.
I watched through that raid shadow legends sponsor 5 times. That was awesome. Normally, I skip over sponsor clips, but with MR, I actually find myself seeing it as very amusing.
"That's wonderful and terribly irresponsible; I love it!" -Jason Murphy, 16:11, 2019
Best quote ever
modern ammo propellant is nitrocellulose (aka smokeless powder)
omg these two actually make good sponsor ads 🤣🤣🤣 like i actually watched the placement
If the Rouges say its a good game, im willing to try it.
I appreciate the fact that you put this out 2 weeks before the Fourth of July
They tried harder on the ads than on the episode 😂
7:32 Someone might already have answered this, but Nitric Acid can react with atmospheric oxygen, decomposes and forms Nitrogen dioxide, and while HNO3 is transparent, NO2 is actually yellow, that's why the color is different.
The reaction goes: 4HNO3 ---> 4NO2 + 2H 2 O +O2
Edit: Also, the white burnt better than the yellow for this same reason, you could, theoretically, wash it a couple more times with baking soda to remove the excess of HNO3 which would, in turn, reduce the amount of NO2 left in the cotton (that's why its yellow) but HNO3 doesn't always react the way it ""should"" and you will ALWAYS have NO2. OR you could've used a fresh batch, since the one Jason did already had a lot of NO2 in it,.
Jason: “This looks just like a triple A console game!”
Brian: “SHUT UP!”
Nitrocellulose was among the first artificial fibers created.
They used it in numerous clothing fabrics and even compressed it into billiards balls.
All this while basically ignoring how flammable it is.
It was also used in heavy naval guns as propellant.
TMR: sulfuric acid flash cotton eye protection constantly up
Chemical safety: am I a joke to you
Honestly if every company made Brian and Jason their advertisers I would buy a lot more shit. That was bloody hilarious
"This is just like a triple A console game!!! "
"Shut up!"
That commercial was spot on.
you had drain cleaner and tin foil, one 2 liter soda bottle later and you could have easily made two fun projects in one video 😉
Works bomb!
Hm, maybe I shouldn't say the b-word
add in some lithium batteries and sudafed and it would have been a 24 hr party with 3 science experiments... I think.
@@JBBost DEMONETIZED!
not quite, there are many types of drain cleaner but the two most common are sulfuric acid or sodium hydroxide. theirs was sulfuric acid so it wouldn't work, you are thinking of sodium hydroxide which reacts with tin foil (actually aluminum) to produce hydrogen gas; like in the other video they mention.
This has the BEST Raid ad on TH-cam, I almost skipped it cause I'm so sick of hearing about this game now, but you guys nailed it.
Look at the level of detail in these mobile game sponsorships!
Not gonna lie, the thumbnail of this video encapsulates every episode that deals with fire.
4:57 i believe that a = mark is wrong there, those two thing on each side aren't the same. My teacher complained when i wrote a = so I'll complain about it
We love you editor! You're the real one for including all the extra information
Can we get a detailed explanation of the difference Boom and Foomph
Google detonation and deflagration ;)
Boom = ouchie.
Foomph = wowie.
did this in chemistry class. my chemistry teacher was awesome.
unlike blackpowder, nitrocellulose is self oxygenizing, which means that it doesn't need to react with the atmosphere and faster combustion can be achieved. it replaced blackpowder for firearms because of that.
Why did that Raid commercial give me such Mr. Robot vibes?
Because Brian looks and sounds like Christian Slater, and there was that one episode that was like a 90's fever dream for Elliot.
EDIT:: That just made rewatching that ad so much funnier