What an Amazon Dispatcher Sees While You're Delivering
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ธ.ค. 2020
- Amazon Drivers are tracked by their Delivery Service Provider (DSP) using a dashboard that follows their progress throughout the day. The DSP uses this to help drivers and get all the packages delivered each day.
I like that he has blurred out the names but when he scrolls down it shows the names LOL. I guess it wasn't so private after all ^^
This is how you know if the person just started their editing game.
@Kim Denino NSFWAmazon made a post on facebook about your order?? wtf over.
@Kim Denino NSFW why lie about something stupid like that?
Im pretty sure that was for customer info since when he selects a driver it lines up and he doesnt scoll
@Kim Denino NSFW You know you don't have to click the "post this order to facebook" button when your order's done right? It doesn't just do that automatically...
6:12 - "You can see they're *only* five ahead." That's an unsettling mentality. Anything ahead seems like it would be a good thing.
Not when most drivers on the list are 20-50 ahead, in that case its perfectly reasonable to say someone's "only 5 ahead", especially if the schedule isn't actually calculating expected time but rather assuming a fixed time per delivery, as that means 5 ahead can easily turn to 20 behind if you stumble upon more difficult to deliver locations or for other reasons (i.e. taking long to find the package in your van, waiting for custom to open door only to find out he's not home, having to potentially call, or find a suitable safe location, evening traffic, etc...)
@@Addlibs while that sounds awesome, the drivers shouldn't be put under such pressure anyway. hence pissing in bottles and getting scolded by the bosses.
It is. That guy isn’t representative of all dispatchers or AMZL employees (who oversee SD or Flex)
Crack them whips bozos style.
Lol @ 30 minute break. A lot of drivers don't want to take it to avoid a delay and end up delivering in the dark.
Im an Amazon driver in Cali and our Bosses force us to take our 30 min. They dont wanna risk anything when it comes to breaks so we could get a write up if we dont take our breaks
You are right.I would add that the drivers DO want to take a break but can't because they will fall behind. There is simply no time for a break and amazon knows this. You will be rescued without a doubt and fired for going "slow".
@@betotolentino7252 its def impossible thats why i bring food and drink on board
Amazon works us like slaves. We get zero breaks. If you take a lunch break you will finish “late”.
@@angelgjr1999 true facts. you cant even number one or two I have to pee in a bottle. thankfully I never number two. i just got off an hour ago. I got rescued due to the snow on the ground in jersey. almost fell on someone's driveway since they half assed shoveled it and didnt out any salt on the pavement. im trying my best not to get injured i know i'll be disposable like a piece of garbage. roads on my route weren't even plowed, even though the snow storm was monday and were suppose to get more on sunday. thank god, im off lol. im going back to the kitchen as a cook. what the hell was I thinking entering into this lol
Man I wish all apartments had lockers. Finding the apt can be a pain, getting heavy/multiple packages up 3 flights of stairs, and I just don't like leaving packages at the front door for fear they'll be stolen as there usually isn't anything to place it behind.
Only if all drivers were like you. I ordered a litter box in the shoe of a flower vase and even tho it was plastic/lightweight and came in a really big box, the driver left it on the first floor somewhere random because he didn’t want to walk to to the third floor. I felt like a porch pirate cause I had to walk around each level to find it and that probably made me look more suspicious to people
It's not amazon driver's fault he is got a short period of time it's your responsibility to be there or assign someone to pick it up
So sorry that happened :( protocol to call and text customer, or you can leave instructions to leave at the leasing office. Most apartment complexes are allowing that again.
@@jurnee-y 3rd floor apartments are EVERY drivers nightmare
if no apartment locker you know what would be helpful A UNIVERSAL WAY OF NUMBERING apartments. some number up and down , some do up down up down, some do left to right , some add a floor number into the apartment number. ONE WAY would be helpful if I have to guess I always guess wrong its the number one thing that slows me down. also if an apartment has a locker ALL packages go to the locker , there is always people that have a note to put to the door NOW THAT SLOWS ME DOWN
what he explains at the end around 12:55 is key to why you don't rush......rushing and getting done early will only buy you 2 tickets to either a higher package volume the next day or rescuing lazy ass drivers that rewards you with nothing. If you have a dsp that actually lets you go home early and you still get paid the full 10 hours like some do then please hit me up lmao.
Just slow way down at the end.
@@justinholland9844 or take a 45 minute break like that one guy in between. lol
Or get an education/training to not have to be a delivery driver…lmao…
i was about to work for one here in north san diego county, i think it was letteride. SCM was brutal, even though i had some cool managers.
Story of life. We are picking up the slackers in our jobs, community, state, country, world...
For Flex Drivers: The warehouse people use the same system to track and trace Flex routes. They are their own dispatch for them. A lot of times the Flex Sups can't go home until all the flex routes are completed (attempted).
They can ALWAYS go home, there is no gun aimed to their head. If they go home and break their contract, they not be given a new one the next time.
@@MoonLiteNite why be so pedantic? Obviously we're talking about "if they don't want to lose their job"
@@Jupilogy Or you know.. Implement proper workers rights and worker protection laws. Period. But the USA loves exploiting people.
@@4ntig3n or workers could use their brain and not sign a contract that gives them nothing....
@@LawrenceTimme Ah yes, I love the choice between signing an exploitative contract and starving
His reaction to the 47 minute stop and the driver trace had me laughing
That's exactly the mentality I hear everywhere from the Amazon bosses.... You said each driver gets 2 15 minute breaks and 30 minutes for lunch and not 4 minutes later you show a driver with exactly 47 minute break and you claim you don't know why he stopped and that it "really" impacted his progress.
Even though he was still ahead. They work us like slaves not sure why it matters as long as all packages are delivered on time
the driver was stealing
@@AMPProf ?
@@QUISSul yep
Any boss that complains about workers beeing expensive should not be a boss :D We basicly make THEM rich..mf's :D
thank god he blurred the drivers names, luckily we cant see their names when he scrolls down
RIP to the poor sap who stopped at a convenience store before his shift.
Most drivers will stop before their first stop and get drinks and snacks.. As long as you don't take longer then 5 minutes, it wont show stall time..
@@SgtPickledic why not stop before getting to work?
I used to work for a DSP in Salt Lake. I liked it at first then it went downhill and I was being taken advantage of for me being a fast driver so I left after 1 year of being with a DSP. Plus I don't like amazon cramming so much sometimes in 1 route and you have to race against the clock to stay ahead or be behind. Taking a pee break takes a toll.
this is the kinda job you only do for a year. i started listening to audiobooks while working and got myself out of a major depression, and back on a positive track. the thing about jobs like this is it usually doesn't pay to be fast. *work at the rate you're paid* means soak the extra overtime. like, i peed in bottles sure, and i tend not to need regular breaks, but don't not take them. there was a major scandal, i guess someone was peeing *in* the vans, and management had to broadcast it out "hey, like, don't do that"
Luckily my first week I’ve been close to a McDonald’s or fast food place and use their restrooms , but I’ve been considering taking a bottle cause the drive to a bath room and back to my delivery area is an easy 10 minutes , in 10 minutes that’s like 6-10 stops I could have done. I also don’t like that the Flex app forces us to take breaks. I’m with you though, I’m probably gonna quit after a month or two. Weekly pay is cool but that’s about the only good aspect of the job
@@Neptune8so youre “that” guy doing 60 stops an hour ehh mate🤣?
That 47 minute break got me 😂🤣
Lol maybe added the 15 minutes on top of the 30 minutes break,
Yeah id rather just push all my breaks together. That's what I always did when I delivered for a distribution center.
😂😂😂
Maybe he stopped at a strip club for 47 minutes..🤣🤣🤣
Maybe that was the guy who went viral with the woman exiting the back of his van
Very interesting - thanks for showing how this is done.
Very helpful info. Thank you for the video. Love the job as a flex driver in Corpus Christi, Texas. The people are very friendly and helpful.
I love that when you scrolled the screen down through the list of drivers, we could read all the drivers' names as they scrolled above the blurred area.
Thanks for the Video. I start dispatching soon and this has helped me understand cortex better
Agreed, I used to be paranoid but after getting used to my route i feel I can go anywhere.
Thank you so much for this video.
this is actually really cool! thanks for sharing
You have to pee in a bottle of you do this job !!!......You cant be wasting time looking for a bathroom 🤣🤣🤣
Awesome, thank you for this! Been driving for a while and was curious what they can see.
you'll know if youre behind they will call you lol
Sometimes the system sends me to a location I haven't been to in ages, and it's an area that most drivers around here hate because of how awful it is to navigate.
Thanks for uploading this 😂😂👍🏼
Good system. I received a package a few days before Christmas (2021)and I discovered the customer had access to a similar map tracking my package. I was able to follow the driver (which was displayed as a Santa Sleigh icon) and was able to meet the driver at the gate. The system gave me where the driver was and how many stops before mine. I hope they continue with that customer access system. It relieves me of the hassle of having to stay home all day.
Where are you from? It has been standard on the UK amazon for about 3 yeras now
@@adamh3212 Denver Colorado. It may have been here longer, I just hadn't seen it before. And this video was posted some time ago.
@@adamh3212 same in Spain
That is a default Amazon feature, You will get notified 10 stops before your delivery. It could just be for Prime as well, not 100% sure if none prime gets that feature. I stick to amazons routes when I deliver, I never jump around, doing that falsely tells customers there package is close, when it actually might not be.. Good way to make customers mad because they waited for you.. People are petty now a days, and complain about anything. To many complaints from customers and Amazon will off board you.. Your Job is literally in the hands of a world of idiots and entitlement minded Karen's. I'm currently looking for a new job while working at a DSP.. You get pinged for the dumbest petty things.
Plus rescues. When I was hired, they told me get used to being out 11-12 hrs! Which in my dsp case that's like 10-11pm, since we have last start time. I wish just 9/10.. They also send you to rescue others that may be 20 min away. Then pick up there packages-. Thank you for video bc after my experience it's good to see this.
You can’t have more the. 10 hour drive time per DOT
@@thebudmaster4116 u can drive for 11 hours not 10 for dot
I hope you enjoyed having your job
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A man of culture, I see
I'm missing the button where they can give the deliverer an electric shock if they fall less than 10 ahead behind.
I’m a dispatcher in Wichita, KS and I’ve previously also dispatched in Houston, TX. The job can be stressful and boring at times but it gives you a bigger picture of what goes on throughout the day and it makes it easier to explain to drivers where they are lacking.
This deffentily helped me out.. I’m looking for a dispatcher job I hate driving at this point
a driver shouldnt get penalized for any amount of time for a break as long as they get the work done. companys that force exac times are the reason people dont want to work right now
I used to do deliveries for a Jeep Dealership, I would pick up/ deliver 20 units a day, I’d get 2 15 min breaks and 1 hour lunch. Also the vehicle wasn’t being tracked and there’s no cameras in the truck. Pay was trash but the job was easy and I did a lot of driving which was nice. I would have stayed but I ended up moving to far and the pay/commute gas ratio wasn’t ideal. Wish I never left
@@Neptune8how do I get this job ? What's the position called and how can I apply and where to apply ?
It is actually insane that so much people order at amazon, especially when you consider that this is only one day of delivering. Almost every household orders every day it seems.
Yup I been getting same route for over two months now and I always get some house that always orders like damn when are you going to stop lol like literally everyday come on
Thanks to Covid, Amazon has basically been turned into Meals On Wheels for old people who can't get out, or live in isolated areas where there's no Wal-Mart. I'm constantly driving out to small townships delivering dog food and bottled water to shut-ins.
I'm definitely guilty and I drive for Amazon lol I see a deal or something and can't help but order
In my area it’s the rich ordering shit they can go down the street and get like get off your ass and go get it
I kinda know the area, I was stationed @ Pete field for 2 yrs & kinda know the area. Looking to move out there next spring. Like the insight. Much appreciated.
this is neat, i've done flex and worked for dsp *and* i'm an amazon 3rd party seller. i find all this fascinating.
Great. This software has given me ideas for operations at my business.
Logistics like this is pretty hard to optimize, but very interesting, thank you!
7:00 what hes saying is actually so true... so annoying when you have to deliver first time to a place... i have a university on my route its pretty painful but after a week i got kinda used to the place but damn looking for a place when you cant find it is really annoying part of the job lol
Thats what it is like being a contract courier too. you aren't being paid while you're spending half an hour looking for the correct building within a big university. We got paid per drop, and how much we got depended on how many we could do. all these little bits of waiting add up over the day and cost you money.
Amazons should really advertise their hub lockers more heavily. Its so simple to just drive to a grocery store or pharmacy, load everyone's package into a locker, and leave. But I guess the countryside doesn't have too much out there.
Or deliveries at night , I’m in the desert so no street lights and some places aren’t even marked
Amazon! Totalitarian is our trade.
Space! Our final frontier.
No idea why this got recommended to me, but it was interesting to watch.
I understand that the drivers need to be managed/monitored, but this seems really stalkerish lol
Yeah when I applied I felt like the whole way they did the interview/was a big information grab.
Yes
Them mf need to stop stealing people valuables ! This system is awesome 😂😭
Sure it might look that way, but if you running a business with vehicles, you need a tracking and see some data. In farming you can track equipment via gps on map and even watch display mirrored screen from equipment with data on field progress. Especially if you paying for gas, driver’s time and any vehicle downtime.
I don’t mean Amazon practices are best with scoring systems and so on, but having a human overview on daily route is much better than AI or some hotline with hour of waiting on hold.
Bezos loves this :D
It would be cool if dispatchers could look at the heatmap + the travel directional data, (like the person going around the school twice), and then put a delivery mark on the map for future deliveries to that location (for instance a pin on the top right of the building). That way the next delivery person will have a better chance of finding the correct drop off location quickly.
You can’t see it in this video, but the driver uses the Amazon Flex app which displays a geopin at the delivery location. The issue with that delivery at the school is the normal location was closed because of Covid lockdown at the time. Check out my Ride Along video to see the geopins in the app.
I’m about to be a dispatcher for dsp and this helps a lot
How did you become a dispatcher. I wanna be one but don’t know where to start
Thanks for all that PII
My DSP were a bunch of douchebags. I lasted there a year and was forced to resign or get fired/let go. I chose the latter. Got myself some good termination pay for the hell of it. This video explains how amazon always tracks you and monitors your movements. We also got cameras installed in our vans, like hell, that's the dumbest shit ever. Talking on the phone the camera records, yawning I heard the camera records, camera records pretty much everything. More invasion of privacy if you ask me. (what you're showing in this video is a HUGE invasion of privacy, my DSP didn't show me shit on the screen, except how I was always trying to be quick, cause I hated my job) One of the worst jobs I've ever had. I had a huge route cause I was in a small town right outside my city but whenever I'd finish fast or before everyone I was forced to rescue. Wasn't I supposed to get like 10, hours pay regardless if I finished fast? (That's what I was told at my first 2 days of boring ass training. Like get me on the road and make me learn hands on.) Also, I had to go rescue all the newbies, and on top of that take more of their packages/stops. I didn't get compensated for any of that time. Fuck Amazon.
lol I just got a job at a dsp, literally doing just for a quick buck, save a little bit of money and I’m out
I'd like to see the map during Christmas or other peak times.😁
Can you make video about routes? and how amazon make each route.
That’s awesome your in the springs. I’m trying to get a job with them as a driver but haven’t gotten the app sent to me. Should I just walk to the warehouse or someone I can call to try and speed up the process?
Thanks for letting me know they know I stop at Dunkin every morning before my routes lol
My dsp has been screwing me over with the same route for almost a month the same apartment complex that has it's own locker not a amazon locker so when i try to deliver it there almost none are available and have to deliver 65 packages to 40 different apartments
I take my lunch break at 100 stops 😂
Used to take mine at like 110 stops sometime 120 so imagine how many I started with ....🖕 amazon...
Never take a lunch break, 350 400 packages most I ever had was 535 packages, step van
I hate lockers, I always seem to get them when the office is closed so I end up having to do 8-20 locations per stop entirely manually. And each time it only counts for 1 stop and it pisses me off like nothing else.
You need to check your itinerary for those and do them first thing.
@@justinholland9844 trust me, I do nowm
Do drivers still have to pee in bottles, or did Amazon finally address this issue??
Also, I worked for an Amazon DSP for about a month... My days were always 12 hours minimum, starting at 6:30am. We had to load (that's a nightmare in itself), had to get fuel in the morning, and then start delivering at 8:30am. The routes themselves (first dropoff to last dropoff) was nothing short of 8 hours. If I finished early, I then had to do a Rescue for people (even though most of them didn't need one. They hated it).
I had to call the other driver, then drive sometimes another half-hour to meet them, take ~20-30 stops worth of packages off of them, and then deliver those. My work ethic worked against me there. The biggest reason I quit was I didn't want to end up in the hospital over bald tires and icy roads.
If a driver stopped to pee, that would show as an Unscheduled Stop, wouldn't it?
technically how amazon would solve that? Or how the other thousand and thousand delivery companies in the world would solve that ?
Yes, we still pee in bottles and even crap in the rain bags if it comes to it.
@@videojeroki First and foremost, reduce customer expectations when it comes to delivery estimates. Companies are too obsessed with low delivery times like 2 day prime. This in turn has customers expecting more and more. Stop giving in, stop rushing shit.
@@teeth-man yesterday I got a package delivered after I ordered it the day before (I didn't even ask to get it that fast). The delivery guy was doing fine and even had time talk to me about the weather. I think those people are doing a super job and if I had the feeling they were exploited or work in bad conditions (crappy truck,...), I would not order and report it.
I would love to see a 2023 version of this. I don’t know if it’s changed much, but since I don’t dispatch, I wouldn’t know.
This is very much illegal in sweden, you cannot monitor your employees like that with gps.
2:30 this is definitely generally speaking... I regularly had rural routes when I was working for a DSP.
That means you where slow getting the packages to the door, but GPS wise you were quick.. City areas normally have the quicker walkers to the door get those areas, where your only driving a short distance between every stop.
When the lockers are full we are made to go door to door since all leasing offices are no longer taking their peoples packages
Not to sound weird but Id prefer to give people their items at their door even if its heavy cause itd be convenient but guess people steal so I understand why'd they'd want it to go to a locker its also easier on us. But I really dislike some of the private buildings and all the locks like I couldnt even use the elevator so I had to take the stairs for all 4 floors. I kinda hate apts
Locker tip: put multiple packages to the same person in the same locker. They say not to do this, but they say a lot of things.
How does Amazon not know, before the driver gets there, that the lockers are full?
@@jxh02 Apartments usually have third party lockers rather than Amazon ones.
@@jxh02 they don't give a fk we are made to deliver to the front door
I used to be a driver for amazon ( my dsp was great btw) but I always wonder how routes were assigned for each driver? Many times I felt like I was getting the longest/worst routes because many times I was the last driver to get to the station lol and I most of the time I skipped meals and breaks
Well, I have been a manager at a DSP and we can choose and switch drivers at our liking, I would usually give the bigger routes to drivers that would always finish 40-50 stops ahead or to drivers I knew I could rely on them finishing it on time no matter what, gave the easy and short routes to the slower drivers, so your manager or DSP can swap your route with another driver's before you load at his liking, usually it is done to avoid having to rescue(if you're smart) others do it because they have favourites so they give short routes to their buds and let the others get fucked with whatever's left
My dsp owner called me one day and was like why are you going 15 mins away from the delivery area. I told him I had to take a leak. And the nearest restroom is that far away. I was in farm town middle of America. No address on multiple houses dogs always in driveways. Farm equipment taking up the roads that was a brutal day. I put him in check. That same day I sat a 4 way stop for 7mims. Waiting for cars to turn left. Road full of semis handling crops. And it was a two way highway I wanted just go around and stuck in the ditch. 😂
@@Multydrifter if you dont mind me asking how do you become a manager at a dsp? is it arguably better in pay, position, etc.?
@@erby2019 Its a ladder, from driver you can ask for lead driver position which is basically a supervisor, you train new guys and cover the OSM days off, if you prove yourself as a good lead driver, you might be offered an OSM job, which a whole lot of work and stress for less money than a driver but on the brightside you can work from home after loadout and flow meetings even though you have to start working at 7 in the morning and finish when the last driver finishes, in my case I work 12-13 hours shifts basically, but I can always keep an eye on the road while shopping or enjoying some family time
Same buddy
We'll put together video thank you for this
As a driver a few years ago not amazon the tracker was more detailed down to 1 foot and sent a signal at 60 seconds if I stoped moving . I had option to put non scheduled stop notes .
Extremely interesting.
Can you do more videos about this topic? Covering areas such as when a driver skips stops in the iteniary..
Skipping stops in the Itinerary? God no! It's sooo accurate, who would do that!!!
:-)
Seriously though....don't always go off the itinerary...unless you like driving back to the same area you were just at 15 minutes earlier because the "itinerary" thought that was the better route! :-)
@@itzanopinion hahaha youre funny
When a driver skips around in the itinerary, it might show the driver falling behind but in reality they aren’t really behind. It can be useful if your route is spread out a lot. You can use the maps feature in the app and it shows you where your stops are and in a lot of cases stops at the beginning and end of the route are close by. For example, stop 20 and stop 117 might be across the street from one another. It’s crazy.
For a company that thinks of itself as being so concerned about being green we waste a lot of fuel driving in circles and not completing stops more efficiently.
Said lunch break lol never had the time to take one
I work for a DSP here in Phx and sometimes people don’t take their lunch u tilt hey get back to the station to finish their route “faster”
Until they*
something feels really dystopian about this
Thank you for this informative video. How strict are the dispatcher with flex diver? I mean in newsletters they tell us we can take a pee and where to find restrooms, that there are apps to find fuel stations with restrooms and stuff.. but on this software it looks like every second is counted. Does performance of a flex driver decides over getting more or less delivery blocks? Does the flex app track what you do on your phone (opening other apps and stuff) ?
from an IT standpoint I find this software and technology fascinating, but from a human standpoint this is sick. A whole system build on pressure
Amazon, as well as other Companies, are fucking terrible for the People who (need to) work for them.
I don't know about the USA, I don't even wanna know since Workers in the USA have less rights then Mold in the Fridge, but here in Germany with quarterway decent working laws, they build massive Preasure. They can not, under any circumstance, prohibit their workers from taking Pee breaks. Theoretically. In Practice, they got you in a preasure Cooker. Long Story Short: Amazon Drivers here mostly pee into Bottles, because there is not enough time.
And those are propably the "lucky" ones. Amazon keeps their real Slaves inside their Warehouses. No matter how unethical, morally corrupted or just forbidden by law - if there is anything Amazon can do, to make you work more, longer, and more efficient, they do it. Technically they can't force you to not take Pee Breaks, and with Covid19 you still have every right to desinfect and practice Hygiene and shit. Practically Amazon tells you to go fuck yourself. Don't pee, don't take to long with your stupid Virus Hygiene, if you do, we'll fire you. For other Reasons of course, because we are forbidden to fire someone for their daily 10 Minute Toilet Breaks. But we'll make sure all the Staff knows the real Reason the Person is gone is due to their Toilet Time.
Honestly, think about anything that is completely morally and ethically wrong - if it's not forbidden by Law you know Amazon and other Giants will fucking do it. And if it's forbidden by law - they bend the Rules (a lot) and if they got every now and then a Lawsuit, who fucking cares, they save so much money by exploiting workers and avoiding Taxes, that's just Peanuts to pay. Plus, they can afford the best Lawyers in the World, so they got a lot of "get out of Jail free" - Cards.
If you think "Whoah, that's even to evil for Amazon!", then you are wrong. If they could get away with it, you know Amazon would keep their Slaves inside their Warehouses (or Delivery Vehicles), chain them to the wall, let them work 20 hours a day and feed them only water and moldy Bread. Do not underestimate the pure Evil that Amazon represents.
@@sagichdirdochnicht4653 Ehh, you only see one side "corporations bad" but ignore the other side, the workers are also bad. They are lazy. I live in USA and so many people exploit every loophole to take months paid off for govt mandated paid medical leave etc. That means the rest of us have to work to support them sitting at home. For example in covid time one girl immediately took a leave, got on $1000 a week unemployment (even though she was employed but on leave), and took Miami vacations for months. Overall who knows how much she bilked out of various govt and corporate covid stimulus and other aid programs but she bought a house not long after. I am sure the amount she bilked approached or surpassed 6 figures (many where getting multiple 10,000's small business "loans" that did not have to be paid back even though they in reality had no small business etc) . This while she say at home while others worked to pay for all she had. But you ignore all those facts.
At the end of the day everything we have the roof over our head, the food we eat, the medical care we use, the TV we watch the vehicle we drive (are cars still legal in communist Europe?), the electricity that comes to our house, has to be made by someone who WORKS. We are divorced from reality, in primitive times maybe we understood "if I dont get off my ass and build a shelter, it's going to rain on my head later, there is no FMLA (USA govt mandated leave program) in the jungle!". But today we are divorced from the fact work is necessary to provide for life. Whether you like it or not that's reality. nothing is free. Communists/Socialists think things are free, only to be provided us by our benevolent socialist politicians out of thin air. That's because they are stupid. But it's unsustainable as they find out over and over.
You see "Amazon treats workers like slaves" but I see that Amazon knows it's workers are mostly lazy gits who will take every smoke break (although few smoke in USA, that's mostly in dirty Europe to be fair) and do as little work as possible to get by. Therefore it is a tug of war where Amazon has to have systems to ensure people actually work for their pay.
I do see both sides, I understand corporations are generally snakes who only care about profit. As I say, what you fail to see is that the working class is just as bad. Most who criticize corporations would do the same if they owned those corporations. Look at far left communists like Bezos, he is as literal communist yet look how he runs his personal business. Same for the socialist European founders of google etc. All socialists in public life, but run their businesses as barons. such hypocrites. Every far left filmmaker has a rap sheet for treating low paid workers poorly on set as well. They are all hypocrites. I have ZERO doubt if you had any money or a corporation (I imagine you are too lazy for this too be possible, as well as living in socialist Europe where getting ahead may be impossible) you would behave far worse than the Bezos of the world.
@KMac 10-15 bucks an hour is a FORTUNE in most areas of the world dummy. You really have no clue about anything.
I bet you dont even have a job. Lazyass. Sitting on the govt dole. When I go to the grocery store the people with carts piled to the ceiling (and it's always the absolute unhealthiest JUNK too) always pull out the EBT card. What do they care it's all free to them, while others have to work to provide for them. meanwhile the working peoples carts just have a few items in them.
Look you can scream and be the angry emotionally unstable irrational leftist all you want it doesn't change the fact that people have to work to provide. Not your precious Joe Biden or anybody else can change reality. There is no free lunch!
You say pay must greatly increase, why dont YOU pay it. People who say that never want to pay themselves. AOC is always on twitter talking about we need free this and that. Why doesnt SHE pay? She is rich. So is Pelosi. No she points the finger the other guy should pay. Of course she does. How much you bet she pays her housekeeper? Probably not shit! How much do you tip the pizza delivery guy? Knowing your tone probably ZERO.
Companies would have a lot more money to pay workers if they werent paying taxes to support bums like you sitting on your couch! And if left wing environmental regulations didnt force all American factories to move to China.
The fact is in America the poor people are FAT where in history the poor starved. You can bash our system all you want but it allows millions like you to sit on their ass all day.
Why dont YOU start a business and pay your employees high wages? You wont. The fact is if those employees want high wages they need to provide a skill that is worth it! Whether it is become a engineer, a Doctor or something like that. delivering for Amazon is a LOW WAGE position for a reason. Any goof can do it that's why! In the 3rd world or Mexico they would KILL for even $10 an hour!
@KMac This needs to be preached again and again
@@cryengine_x Lol, these people working in america aren't working in mexico though, the fuck? $10-15 an hour you can just barely afford to cover rent literally anywhere in the country unless you're 40+ miles outside of any large city, and even then your budget will be extremely strained on this wage after accounting for other bills, food and the rapidly rising costs of pretty much everything. You have to either live with family or do some kind of 4 person rent share to even start to save money at $10/hr, lmao.
I'm sure this guy has been promoted to customer because this is all proprietary information for Amazon.
Was weird to start watching this and see city I live in on the screen!
lol i remember i took a regular 30 min break but had totally messd upbags. like one stop had atleast 2 packages out of 2 or more different bags so it took me way to long. Started at 10 am came back to the station at 2100 with 33 packages lmao. My boss wasnt happy even tho i told him i need help
Wow pretty cool!
My first stop is always an hour away and in the mountains.
I don't work for Amazon nor am I a Amazon driver. TH-cam recommended this to me and only watched 2-3 mins and I'm already intrigued on how all this works.
That is so interesting!
Within 15 minutes just these few guys delivered 300 packages, imagine how many get delivered a day around the world
at least 3000
@@Gdsamplify 😭
Algorithm and driver affinity are the continuous excuses form my DSP as to why I keep getting assigned to the same 200 apartments every day for the past six weeks. I call BS on that!
The DSP can choose which driver gets which route once amazon assigns them in the morning, I've been a manager for a DSP and I would never leave the routes as they were assigned by the system
Bro seriously. I enjoyed this job until they continuously give me apartments and most the time the stops are 3rd floor. Outta 3 floors. Like outta 30 people here so far how did I manage to get fucked over. Wish I could kno why it’s always me. I actually wanna work here for as long as I can. But probably move jobs again, sucks everyone else gets to enjoy there job for years
@@iBeRAW247 Yup, easy for them to be Petty and make you work harder.. They probably didn't like you IMO.. The past 2 weeks 2 days out of that time period was 98 degrees it was in the lower 80s upper 70s other than that. I got the biggest routes on both those days all in city 180+ stops 270+ packages.. That shit right there was a Huge red flag to me, any other day I'm out in the country with 90 - 110+ stops with 130+ packages.. My guess is because they wanted me to work 5 days for 2 weeks instead of my normal 4 days a week, i denied it because i had already set plans both weeks.. Probably why I got those routes.. If you notice patterns like that, leave the company..
What button do you press to terminate them?
You mentioned that the system does some optimization as far as trying to pair the same driver in the same area for DSPs. Do you know if that applies to Flex as well?
time construct can be designed to get you out and their group in sure youve seen it where loads light here and very heavy there
The 47 break means he probably stopped at his girlfriend's house or a Strip club....🤣🤣🤣
Cheers to another Colorado Springs resident.
what about turning on air plane? by doing breakes...-can the system afterwards also retrack the route? or sometimes the delivery is done on airplane (due to bad internet connection) also here a retrack is possible?
Could not think of a worse nightmare scenario than working for amazon.
Very interesting 👍. So my idea of stopping for a “playtime” with a lonely housewife or two is squashed. 😕😕😔. You guys see EVERYTHING 👎🏻.
Lol weird comment
Yeah they even know how many strokes it took you.
Just put your phone on a robot that roams around the neighborhood as if you're lost - she'll be 'right...
Do they do this for Amazon flex too? Thank you for sharing
Sorry but watch me all you want , I’m stopping by jack in the box and getting my dollar tacos 😁
What do you listen to on Spotify while you're dispatching? 🔥
How do you guys get routes assigned by Amazon? Is it similar to the flex system?
The DSP owners can assign any routes they were given by AMZL that day to any of their individual drivers. Flex DP’s all receive their routes at random. Usually experienced Flex DP’s will learn a LMDS service area and that’s how you can at least expect a general idea of where you may have to deliver for today.
Hahahaha my Amazon 2.0 route is always back and forth across town, the Amazon AI is insanely stupid and has you delivering to no 24 then going cross town to do other stops before taking you back to no 25 🤯
so do you guys work from home? and what else do you have to do?
Creepy honestly. They can spy on you just like that. Here someone say that how’s it feel to have your phone like a leash. Now I understand why. Wow
That’s why I always leave phone in van when I go use restroom. Amazon can see camera and mic.
thats from corporate dsps have to follow this or else
@@angelgjr1999 they don't want u to go the bathroom?
@@arminius4986 No we use pee bottles
@@angelgjr1999 I heard about it
But only in warehouse
And what if someone wants to make a poo?
Man you seem like you were a laid back dsp. My dsp manager/owner was military he treated the routes like we were saving people from a battle field and would talk down to you like you were a child of you had any issues. One day the tires on the van I was assigned. We’re bald and he chewed me out about it like it was my fault. He said next time you don’t need to check the issuers off in the flex app just come get me. So he didn’t have us checking the issues off in the app. Is that normal for dsp?
Pretty normal, ignore everything lol.
Yeah, what do they care if you get in a wreck they'll just hold YOU accountable and fire you. My dsp does the same thing. Except I won't take a unsafe vehicle no matter what.
@@truckinwoodworx1436 similar here. I'm with two dsps, one doesn't give two shits whereas the other does.
but it is your fault: you left the station without doing a walk-around of your van. you need to inspect the equipment you are working on every day. or your station doesn't believe in pre-trip inspections?
@@brianlacroix822 you can inspect it all you want. They aren't mechanics. Ain't no telling what will happen out on the road.
Why not just take those vehicles to a mechanic and get them all thoroughly inspected?
Not everything is the drivers fault if something fails and not to mention, many don't know jack about vehicles. Usually only the barebones of the basics.
guy who showed up at convenient store getting fired, bezos wont stand it
The amount that these people get paid is about half of what they should be getting paid
13:04. Is that true for flex drivers also (independent contractors) …trying to put some drivers for same routes etc ?
I strongly believe as a new Amazon driver, we shouldn’t have more than 140 stops a day anything plus that it’s just inside bruh. Plus the rules you gotta follow every single day it’s very stressful
Is this why the drivers sometimes just leave all the packages for my apartment building in one area, because it looks good for their stats?
Yup. The fastest drivers are the sloppiest drivers.
im jealous of this DSP. im in San Diego and its 350+ packages with 190 stops every day.
Same in Seattle man 😪
I’m in Palmdale CA , it’s about the same here too
Same here in Minnesota usually. But like today I had a 122 stop today. I thought WOW I'm going home super early. Turned out to be mostly rural and farmland stuff it took me the full ten hours to finish. and that's after the 45 minutes to line up and load up. I did take an entire fifteen minute break. The people at the station start hounding the DSP if they feel you aren't doing it fast enough. They start insisting they send a sweep or rescue.
Seems like if one driver is really good and efficient (there is always a few who try harder)..... Then the system would just give them more work. Being a slower driver would be better, because you would do less work but have the same hours. That seems to be the overall feeling where I work.
Agreed, however it depends. My old company gave guaranteed 8 hour shifts. So lots of people would skip breaks and finish asap. It wasn't bad at first, but after peak lots of people left/got laid off so we were basically working 8 hour shifts. My new company is hourly, however the employees who joined the company when the company had just started get guaranteed 10 hour shifts so they bust them out and done quickly.
they need to re-work their system then, that's unfair for the people who are faster and work harder, they should be compensated more base on their efficiency and experience.
@@user-zc9zt2vl5s They should be giving more pay the farther ahead you get while on your Route, like a dollar or 2 more a hour for the day if you finish like 30 ahead or something.. But no... screw the hard workers.. WHat a joke...
what that sounds a lot like is piece-work. Get paid based on your performance per unit/efficiency
Yep and they wonder why i send them help
Man I wish I had only 106 stops Jesus
I get around 100-107 stops everyday that usually means 95% Apartments and Business
Flex drivers are monitored too? But since they use their personal vehicles amazon doesn't care if those drivers are speeding or not
Yes because it uses the flex app n