1993 Porsche 968 Clubsport Review - Porsche's Final Transaxle Was A Gem
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ธ.ค. 2020
- Today I am lucky to be driving a beatiful white Porsche 968 Clubsport. Introduced as a successor to the 944, the 968 didn't sell very well. So, in a few markets Porsche came up with a new idea - strip out the luxuries, chuck on some fancy graphics and sell it as a more hardcore sports car. It worked, and the 968 Clubsport became a legend.
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968CS YES PLEASE!
Serious bit of kit, nice spec too. JayEmm on a quality roll.
Have been daily driving my 968 coupe for the last 12 years.... 214,000 and counting.....the coupe is the better option for UK roads, although I’ve updated the suspension with Koni’s adjustable, and refreshing the bushes and springs, everything else as delivered, full leather, climate control, yada yada....
Mine has 79k. Owned it since’03. It was once my daily driver.
Hows the reliability been ?
@@thavashgovender4345 it’s never let me down, or stranded anytime, it gets used not every day now, as I’ve now acquired a 2008 Cayman S for daily duties.
That’s awesome probably one of the highest mileage cars out there, buying one with 100k miles should be ok 5hen.
Have you still got it ? I’m after one
I never seen or owned one , but my imaginary memories of this incredible car will always stay with me forever
Don’t let your dreams be dreams
968 looks great in white!
We call it the "cocaine dealer in a disco" trim, here in yank-land.
Back in the day I drove a pale blue one that was superb.
IMO, no car lloks good in white.
@@acchaladka stupid comment. We don’t call it that...just you.
I have developed quite the liking of this car, thank you for this video!
To me it is the best looking of the front engined Porsches, and unlike the (late) 928 still affordable in Germany.
Drove a 968 as a daily driver for 10 years and 165.000 miles. Great car, very practical. Not super quick, but quick enough for a daily driver. Changed it for a 933, but thinking of buying one again (not selling the 993, that is a great car as well). Had a 944 and 944s2 before as well. But the 968 is much better in performance and looks.
That’s a great recommendation, did much go wrong with it in your ownership. Looking at the forums they seem almost bullet proof, I need one very soon.
What did you pay for the 968 and 993 if you dont mind me asking
@JayEmm at 6:12 marker in this video you can see that this car's Airbox has been modified. Unfortunately incorrectly and I think will have a negative effect on HP. Normally, there is a cold air intake that run out of that square-ish port for a snorkel and down out of the engine compartment to get cold air from below the car. This one as the missing that snorkel. Instead it implements a popular mod which cuts four additional ports, the rounded holes in the front of the air box to try to increase air supply. That's fine, however in order for that to work correctly a shroud needs to be installed to isolate the heat from the engine compartment from entering the airbox. That separation missing here and effectively what is happening is your cold air intake is now a hot air intake. That's unfortunate.
After owning my old 944, I realized porsche makes the best cars in the world. Mine was high mileage, but still purred, and could still outrun entry level 'sporty' cars. No rust. Electrical problems, of course, but I didn't care. It ran well. The ride was comfortable, yet, well balanced for spirited driving. Another reason I think Porsche is on another level. They aren't for drivers looking to upgrade and tune. And yes, parts aren't cheap. Trust me, you won't be disappointed in this car if you like momentum cars.
Excellent Jay, just recently sold my 1995 968 Sport after 15yrs (& trouble free) ownership. The MO30 suspension is not good for public roads, standard suspension much better. Also the Sport they only produced for the last year for the UK market was the best selling version for that year.
The Sport really is the best version to get for road use, with the extra comfort levels, but still retains the Club Sport driving dynamics with same suspension.
The big bonus is that it's quite a bit cheaper to buy than a similar condition Club Sport, which has become the most desirable & expensive (unjustifiably really) version, from (as you rightly said) the least expensive when new.
15 years ownership and trouble free that’s amazing, hopefully own a coupe or 944 S2 at some point. Why did you sell the car if you don’t mind me asking. I published a video on a slate gray 968 you might like, feel free to check it out. I also think a base 718 boxster for sub £35k is a bargain.
I remember seeing one for the first time alongside a 964 Turbo S Flatnose, 930 Turbo 3.3, and many other classics during a gathering of classic Porsches last year. I am a happy boy, considering my favourite Porsche when I was a small boy was the transaxle Porsches, especially 968CS and 928GTS.
Loved my one here in Australia, we got a lot of these (100 I think). Mine was Red, all the Aussie spec cars came with Air-Con a requirement here, we also got Recaro buckets in them as well no Sports here. I always remember you could drive it hard into a corner and not worry about the brakes.
We've got a customer who has one and which we MOT every year and it's ABSOLUTELY MINT and he has track dayed it too.
A friend of mine from CH uses his one way over a decade for track days during each season. He has way more expensive Sportscars but he only uses this one for fun on the track. Of course, modified for the use.
Ran a 944 turbo for a few years back in the day.
I always called it a 2 seat estate car, so practical.
Going back to your comment about 50/50 weight distribution not necessarily being ideal. In my experience, which is limited, it does seem to be ideal in four wheel drive vehicles, but not so much in front or rear wheel drives. In front wheel drives a slight bias to the front and rear wheel drives a slight bias to the rear seems beneficial, although the amount of bias also seems to depend on the weight of the vehicle with lighter cars benefitting from a greater bias. As I said, my experience is limited, so these rules may not always apply.
Loved your comment on heeling & toeing, I could not agree more. It even makes a basic car like my Subaru Outback more enjoyable. Today its my father in laws RS4 from 2008, excellent V8 soundtrack when blipping on the downshifts.
I drive a coupe with no sunroof and limited slip diff (both desirable options) and of course, 6 speed and cup 1 wheels and tyres sizes. The CS is so much more expensive and tbh if you want to drive daily, the standard is practically as fast, comfier and great for long journeys. Still rare but compared to the CS, a bargain. Btw running costs are in my experience very affordable. £500 a year service. Very economical too.
968CS is an fantastic car. I recently supercharged mine to give it the power and torque Porsche should have in the first place (Turbo S and RS too rare and expensive). Having owned nearly every single permutation of 924, 944 and 968 the 968 CS really is the culmination of the Porsche transaxles and a proper drivers car. Now they are more collectable and special the CS is the one to go for whilst if it was a daily car you were looking for a Sport of Coupe were better suited.
Came so close to buying one in the mid 90'S but opted for a 300zx, I'd still like one though
Fantastic review of a gorgeous car. Thanks James.
James, i always nod in approval when you talk about the 50/50 weight distribution being nonsense :-D Memories of Alonso winning the championship with Renault with the most rear-biased F1 car (it used to kill rear tyres). Great car in white. Looks like you had a lotta fun driving it.
In my Opinion, I always prefered the 944 s2 to me it just looks right👍
Gorgeous. My dream car!
LOVE this car, it's bloody amazing.
James, another way to get a 6 speed gear box in the mid nineties was in a Fiat Punto 6 speed, thrashy with dubious build quality but fun to hustle on the B roads.
I have an S2 with bits from the 68. Makes it a great car, fast enough without risking too many blue lights
Oh I also get away from the 68 front end, I love my proper pop ups!
Filmed a 944 S2 for my channel, really surprised me what a raw experience it is, and how fast and loud it was. Really great car and would be happy to own either a 944 or 968
Ah yes, the 968 Clubsport - a gem of a Porsche!
Sold my S2 for an NA MX5, turbo kit to add.. Never been happier
I was hoping you'd carry on and expand on "the perfect weight distribution" comment!
Can you do a video on the subject as I'm sure there are many of us with varied opinions?
You might like my video, let me know your thoughts.
I had one of these in the late 90’s, amazing handling, weedy brakes without the M030 kit. Main problem was in the summer when you’d fry with all that glass and no air con..
My car, agree about brakes hence I upgraded it to MO30. Scotland’s never been that warm and sunny to fry me in 5 years I’ve owned it.
Lovely car and lovely road.
Always loved them
Calibra Turbo had a 6 speed manual at the same time as this lovely motor.
This is spectacular! Really hope you can review a 924, 944 and a 928.
The people who bring up you doing the heel and toe are those who can't do it themselves, don't worry! 🙌🏻
Great review. Thank you.
Just needs a half cage, no sun roof and it is my dream car!
Such a great machine. The only reason for not owning one ist that I'm living with a 944S2 vert for the last 23 years, accompanied by a 928GTS for 18 years now. Doesn't that tell all about my opinion on these transaxles?
You sir are my hero of today
Iam 55 and always lusted over the 928 and in my "lottery" garage will be a 928 gts.👍
Bloody superb as always.
I always rather fancied the 'Sport' version of these, despite being a diehard 911 fan. To me, this car still looks quite contemporary.
A really interesting review subject 👍👍👍
Looking forwards to the 944 video! 👍
Glorious. I'm the guy campaigning for you to review the 944 turbo. Thank you James.
Porsche has a classics programme and the 944 is in, so i assume you can buy original OEM parts or have the 968 refurbished by a regional Porsche dealer. If you really don't want to work on it yourself.
Really looking forward to the S2 review, would be interesting if you get to drive the 'crap' 1983 base version. (Some people prefer it.)
Just filmed a video on a 944 S2 feel free to check it out.
I am at work and can't wait when I can watch it. Thanks for the upload.
And now can't wait for S2 which is prettier. Curious if it gonna have fumes issue on open windows.
Magnificent wee beastie!
I have very fond memories of my 968 sport, only thing that let it down was the guards red paintwork, which rapidly became guards pink!
too right, and because of the different materials used for bumpers, spoiler, doors etc,. different shades of pink at that.
Well its single stage paint. You need to stay on top of it with paint protection and keep it garaged. Looks fab when well maintained. Plus with this car, if you leave it outside for too long you will get a cracked dash due to that rear glass greenhouse.
You are right that 6 speeds were quite rare, back in 1992-1993, but If I recall correctly the Audi s2 and s4 both had one. As did... wait for it....The Vectra Turbo 4*4. So it did not have to be that expensive to get a car with one. To be fair though, I am sure lots of people couldnt believe the Vectra had a 6-speed back then, when they got into one. Some people who mostly had run a bit older economy cars were hardly used to a 5 speed!
928 might be “ancient” but it’s still a bloody good GT
This is such a great channel
Glad to see you got the 968 CS, unlike one of the other channels... 👍
depends which other channel. At least #27 gave it a second chance and actually drove it hard. Went from Mehh to Wow, Hello!
Love the pretty scenery!🚘🏞
Only 20 minutes drive from where I live. Lovely road.
The first Porsche I drove in my Younger Years was a 911 Turbo aka the Widowmaker.
I found the car drove like crap, that's why I can't get any excitement for 911 up until today!
The Transaxles are a much different Story, they drive great! I prefer any Transaxle Porsche over the 911 of the era! What a great car! 👍🏼
A 90's 987 Cayman R. Loved these in period, the yellow on yellow wheels was a bit krap back in the day.
That all red rear light cluster, still cool.
Agreed speed yellow on the body and wheels looks great on this car, one of my favourites.
Nice to see one of these featured.
My dream car when I was younger was a 944 turbo and I ended up buying one of the last made when I was 25. It was metallic black, cream interior, manual box (of course) and I loved it. It was a lot cheaper than a 911 of the time and also a lot more practical as my only car and when I was away from home a lot, driving around the country.
In terms of practicality I got 2 mountain bikes and enough luggage for week away for 2, including evening wear for a friends wedding, in the car once. Wouldn't get that in a 911!
I ended up selling it when I got into motorbikes and I found myself doing nearly all motorway miles. When it was in for a service I got an offer for it out of the blue and it was sold within days. Great car back in the day though, especially when you're 25 :-)
10:00 interesting fact..... the Fiat Punto was available in the mid 90's with a 6 speed gearbox not sure if it came out late 94 or early 95 but it was available back then - I remember the road test in Performance Car Magazine and being a teenager at that time hoped to get one as a first car but couldn't afford it haha.
I recall seeing them up for sale at camerons of Perth for 28k when the standard one was 8 grand more. I think it was a non cohesive face lift, 928 front and rear but sides are angular from a 944. I think the 928 GTS still looked more current than the 968 but was fortune. The Carrera 4 was just out that was cutting edge tech 4 wheel traction control. 928 looked the the future in the 80s
I love the 968 and drove a brand new one back in the day, when my Dad loaned my his 944 Turbo and went down to Porsche and said I am looking at upgrading !!! The new one was oh so good and was the first 6 speed I drove. Would love one today, but the cost is eyewatering for a decent one. They did also make a turbo model of these, but in extremely small numbers (14 cars I think). With over 300bhp, they were very rapid. I seem to remember it was the fastest 4 cylinder car at the time (turbo model), replacing the 924 Carrera which previously held it.
Your a lucky man, would love to have drove these when it was fresh out of the showroom.
Saw a yellow one last week :)
beautiful car
You forgot to add that it won the Sports Car of the year award in 1994 :-/
Love the Porsche content.
Great video as always!
Good video on the car itself it really l could do with the wheels being the same colour as the car would make it visually a lot more appealing. Calibra turbo has a 6 speed too back in the 90’s a video on one of those would be a good shout too.
Ohhhhh yeah I like 😁😁😁😁😁 didn’t know about this car but glad I do now !!
Jay I’ve moved from an Exige to a 997.1 GT3. If you do another Porsche week and want to do a review let me know.
Always keen to drive a 997
Thanks Jay, always love the Porsche videos and this one was an absolute delight. Not a lot of these in the States that's for sure - don't think I've ever seen one. Also, great Porsche history - the 90's were some wonky years for the Germans. Something to do with reunification perhaps? We may never know.
They did't sell the Club Sport in the US.
Really cool car!!
Think you're coming out of Lennoxtown, what a road,magic
The waste gate was impaired on purpose so that it would be slower than the 911. If you fix the waste gate issue on the turbo, it's faster than a 911 turbo from the period and runs 300hp.
I was so close to buying one of these, in that spec. as well. Always regretted not going for it! Still love 'em
I did worse, decided not to buy a 924 Carrera GT in silver to replace my 924 euro turbo w. Carrera GT fenders back in 1998. Still regret it. I still have the 924 and still love it the most even after owning dozens of amazing cars.
@@brunoarslanturk that’s tough. Would be worth some serious money now! At least you get to console yourself with a great car anyway 🙂
@JayEmm don't know what's up with this car but normally these don't push around corners. Next time you find yourself in the US, you are welcome to retest with mine. Retest with the upcoming 944 S2 and you will find it shouldn't push either.
Great review as always had one in 94 great fun handled very well mine was yellow with same colour wheels lots of looks good and bad ;-) part-x it for M3 in 96 ;-)
Nice review on a very special transaxle Porsche, the prices on these have gone through the roof now
Not really. They can be found for 25k easily in Europe. Pretty stable.
I drove a cabriolet and was most impressed, big bore 4cyl
Great objective review as usual Jay. I had one back in the day as a daily and did 60k trouble free miles. Bought another a few years ago, not a CS but well specced with M030 and 17’s. Saved a big premium over a CS and unless you are tracking, it’s as sharp and enjoyable as you will get for the money. But it’s cost me almost as much in renovation and maintenance as the purchase price. I think now though it’s good!
Hi Nick, sounds like you have a real mint car, what colour is it? Huge fan of the 968, hope to own the coupe at some point, it just looks right. I filmed a video on a nice slate gray 968 coupe you might enjoy, feel free to check it out.
@@thedrivebygg Hi Graham. Mine is Guards. Classic 80s/90’s but no so subtle as your Slate. But it drives so well. I’ll check out your vid now. 👍
@@nicktaylor1944 I wish it was mine, to be honest they look great in all colours. If your ever near Woking and you fancy being involved in a video let me know.
Oh yes, I've been waiting for this!
Cool as car !!
968 and And x180 lotus would be the dream
Calibra Turbo came with a 6 speed and musta been a big chunk of wedge cheaper too!
Nice review, think you missed one of the best & affordable 6 speed cars of the 90's though...
The Peugeot 306 GTi-6 😎
My brother had one a few years ago.
His friend writ it off! 😣
Very, very quick!
Even if it is a four cylinder it does actually have a nice sound to it. Maybe because of its larger displacement?
Performance Car mag absolutely loved this car. Think John Barker had one as a loaner? Or have I made that up 🤔
I think the club sport was a genius idea by Porsche.
It gave owners (who couldn't afford a 911) a pub banter winning reason for owning one.
I have a regular Coupé from the 968. And Im happy with it. :D :D
Lovely car good to see you doing some more porsche videos Jay. Any chance you will review the 944 Turbo and S2? I'd offer my 1990 Turbo to you for a test drive but its off the road currently for some winter garage jobs!
Been waitin for this
If you grew up in the 80s and 90s , these cars were fun to drive. But the maintenance was and always has been pricey
It is a hybrid of a 944 and 928, in design.
The 924 was invisible to me (you had to be around when it came out) so each successive iteration thereof was just as invisible. It just stayed around far too long. As far as your comment on 50/50 weight distribution, I eagerly await that video. I can tell you with no doubt that 50/50 in an Alfa GTV-6 on snow tires in the snow is a blast. Totally different from non 50/50 cars.
True. These 30 years old 50/50 RWD cars still drive as good as the modern all-electronic ESP gondolas.
The ideal is slightly biased towards the rear. 45/55
@@nova-oy4qy For racing, yes, but not for street.
Save money. Save weight. Nothing to break. Got it.
Can you do a video on 944 turbo s, seems they did it for a year or two then turned it into the normal turbo
Quite like the shape of these but I think I prefer the 944 got to give it to them for actually lowering in the cost when they removed half the car, they now charge for doing that but does removing the headlining actually make it that much lighter🤣?
Where is this? beautiful view, excellent vid!
Very different cars but 928 GTS manual for me. Sold mine a few years ago and regret doing so massively.
you said it perfectly. VERY different cars.
Is that sun strip on the windscreen standard? It doesn't look right.
Very nice car, and very very desirable now.......even more tomorrow.
JayEmm, Intercourse extraordinaire
jay how would u campaire/rate the 968 to the boxter 2,5 as once first porsche/sportscar ?
maintance costs/performance etc i would like to see that vid
have a good one
👍
Don't forget the lotus Carlton James.
6 speed manual.
I've done one of those a while back. Corvette gearbox from memory