I had a later 944 with many similar quirks and features…. I always appreciated how big the hatch was, particularly when I figured out that the metal moon roof didn’t just vent or slide halfway back (looking like a roof mounted spoiler). There was a way to “unlock” the rear lifters and place the entire roof in the hatch, almost like a one piece Targa. Also the oversized 4 cylinder had balance shafts making it very smooth and vibration free. It was half of a 928 V8. I shortened the length of my shift lever as the rear mounted transmission was fun but the shifts felt so long because of the lever. Putting a stubby shifter and leather boot made it feel quicker more like a Miata shifter. The flashlight in the key was handy when ice formed over the keyhole so you wouldn’t “key” your own car since there is no protective area around the tiny keyhole, and keyless was optional, despite the car having power locks.
THAT appears to be a cell phone antenna... from back in the day when that was a necessary item for your brick phone... if you were fortunate enough to have one... So, in the mid-nineties, that was cool and worth the extra weight!
"THISSS..." rating. Not too harsh on the consonant start, a nice bassy intro, all concluded with a pleasingly soothing tone and pitch for the "s" without too much expression. I rate it a-uhh, 9.5/10. Awesome word, given some space for the sheer respect of no perfection.
Which places it here against other “THISSS ...” I’ve said over the years. The “THISSS..” beats out the “THIISS..” 2018 in the weekend category but ranks fairly low in the daily category overall.
_I noticed it too @ __9:27__ 0.o_ _It looks like it's going through some sort of psychosis from the previous owner aka,_ _"El Fappo" ordering those red wheels._
the most interesting fact about this car is, that it's the last porsche where getting less didn't equal a peak in pricing. nowadays, buying a porsche without a/c and radio is always more expensive, than buying one with every option picked, unlike this one, which was the cheapest in the 968 range. porsche was at near bankruptcy at the point this car was on offer, that's why they didn't make a special rearwindow for this one to accomodate the lack of the rear wiper, and other parts to cover for the lack of removed options.
9:30 The 928 had headlights like that for years. 12:57 The parking brake location is carried over from the 924. 13:16 The 924 and I'm guessing the 944 had the key ignition to the right also. 14:21 The rear seats in the standard model fold down flush and give the same amount of cargo space. 15:47 There's been many 4 cylinder Porsches. Not unusual.
It's all right ❕ Important to me is, that the gears in the back transaxle. But for me, the 924, 944 and 968 was never interested in the 80s and 90s. 911 is the only one ❣️😅 Love from Berlin 🇩🇪 Ramsi 🙋🏻♂️
The headlights aren't off on the "middle" position on the headlight switch. They are just using their weaker "parking light" bulbs. This feature is mandated by law in some European countries, and I believe it's supposed to be used when you park your car at night at the side of a narrow street.
The weakest setting are called City Lights (which I don't see turn on here). Parking Lights are exactly that. But the thing is, you only light up one side that is on the road side. Front+rear lights up then.
@@donkremer6019 and this can be engaged with the Indicator switch. If you engage the left indicator an shut the ignition with the light dial in the middle, only the left parking lights will be on. In Germany you have to use this outside of the town if you are parking next to the street with no additional light source.
Some idiots in the UK drive at night with just their parking lights on. You also have the idiots who think their DRLs are sufficiently bright enough to use at night, not realising their fucking tail lights don't come on with them.
I sold my yellow clubsport back to the previous owner after having it for 5 years, and he still has it and takes it on trackdays regularly. It is such a superb car to drive on British country roads, and I do miss it greatly. Damn responsibilities!
It was actually completely normal for a car without air conditioning to have a smaller, lower-capacity battery, alternator, and radiator. Back when A/C was a dealer-installed option, you had to order the car from the factory with an "A/C prep kit" which would include those upgrades in order to facilitate installing A/C.
the sad part is that it‘s true. Porsche has pretty much become unattainable for the real enthusiats. So the Boomers are buying „rare“ porsches just to store them in their garage in hopes of a return on investment
Take it to some twisties and pick up the pace and then you'll discover the magic in the chassis. It gets even better if it has the M030 suspension option (which also included a brake upgrade).
I raced a 968 for about 15 years, and even though the power was modest, it had good torque grunt and the handling was excellent with the rear transaxle, and you could hammer it without it breaking. Won my class in quite a few races with it.
I have one of those. It’s alright didn’t do well in races so I sold it on the auction house. Then I got another one and now it just sits there in my garage. (This is all in Forza by the way)
You've never driven a real one, they are a fuckin blast!! I had a 924S and a 944, they drove like a go kart on steroids. That's the bad thing about games... All cars seem slow up against a McLaren or Zonda
10:33 in Germany it's allowed to drive with parking light with the fog light. This can be helpful if it is extremely foggy or extremely snowy. Often the headlights dazzle the driver like a white wall. In this situation it's often better to leave the fog light on in addition to the parking lights.
At least for austria: you have to have the parking light on if you park on the side of a street that has no designated parking spots or all night lighting!
@@maxfotsch6724 this is exactly an other comment I wrote to Doug's wondering about light switch position one. This explains this feature. But in Germany it's not a regulation, only a recommendation, I guess
10:46 It's very useful when cruising at very high speeds in the left lane on the Autobahn. You alert drivers ahead of you to stay clear to prevent accidents. That's just how you're supposed to do it on the Autobahn, you flash the high beams.
I will never forget the first time I got in one of these and was surprised by the speed. I was more surprised by the inline 4 cylinder when the owner popped the hood. These will always have a special place in my heart.
You can keep headlights up when the car is off in freezing conditions, sometimes pop ups refuse to pop up. Read it in a few car manuals from cars Ive owned over the years
Not really in the 944/968 series. Turning the headlight knob back to the middle position still illuminates parking lights. If you turn the car completely off and then turn the knob all the way back to the off position, then the headlights will remain up, but if you leave it in the middle position you’ll drain the battery. You have to remember to turn them back on before you turn the ignition on or they will retract again. I’ve can definitely be a problem. Had the headlights on my 951 freeze shut in the past.
I worked for a major car magazine in the late 90s and the editor had a 1994 968. As a 21 year old I was pretty happy when he parked it under a tree and got sap on the convertible top. I offered to take it home for the weekend to get the sap off of it. That was a fun weekend!
That's 168 grams of antenna they could've saved! I bet the poor engineer who forgot about it was handed a Walther with a single round in it and told that he knows what he must do.
They're similar but actually very different. The 928 had a similar key, and those things are like $40 just for that little "torch". There is a Porsche crest on the other side.
Late '90s Saab keys had a similar feature--even though they had separate keyfob remote controls by then. It didn't work very well, that was back in the days before cheap LEDs, so it was a tiny incandescent bulb that just barely lit up.
@@Malc180s This. "RS" (Rennsport in German, meaning race sport) goes back to 73 and is one of Porsche's most famous marks. The purchaser of this car wouldn't be at all surprised by a "CS"
@@motorpolitan8884 yeah, but even American cars have abbreviations and have done some 60's at least. Camero SS, corvette ZR1, shelby GT350, charger RT... so Dana's point is correct. If he is actually shocked by them just putting CS on it, then does he think all the other letters on cars are just random. Does he actually think BMW is a foreign word and the full name of the company.
_It's that horror scene when Crockett & Rico take you to where they found your Black 928, that was stolen by a "Dirty Sanchez" and "El Fappo". or It's like seeing today's sexually-confused, liberal weirdlees that wear skinny jeans and Red Sneakers._
This for quite some time was the largest and most powerful production four cylinder engine. It's basically just a single bored and stroked cylinder bank of the 5.5L V8 from the 928.
maybe the car was running. The vibrations may have made it move that way. It just so happens that the frame rate of the camera syncs up with the vibrations of the car.
One of my favourite reviews. The weight-saving strategy Porsche used reminds me of the "gram strategy" Mazda uses now. I love the look of the body coloured wheels. If it was me, and I wanted weight savings and practicality for a daily driver and a fun racer, I'd get the crank windows and the AC.
Doug, you should consider getting rid of the "value" category. You give this collectible a 5, yet I've seen you give new cars 7-8 even though we both know it will lose half it's value within a few years. Comparing collectibles to new cars in this sense just doesn't work. In my opinion, you should start giving new cars a lower value score. And start giving older cars/collectibles a higher score, while still factoring in the quality of the car/potential depreciation and all that. Something to think about!
I have to agree... his value and style scores are low. The 968 still garners oohs and ahhs from people who also ask if it’s a “new Porsche”? How many other cars, even other Porsches, have that cache and timeless design? I mean, seriously, a 911 of any ilk, is recognizable as a car from it’s period by almost every driver in the world. Whereas, the 968 (and the 944 turbo, too!) both have a timeless design that begs some people to (again) ask if it’s a new Porsche model. To me, that means at the least, a 9 out of 10 for the exterior style/design! Right now, these cars are still bargains as classic cars. (Read: big value. Like a 9 out of 10, if you hunt for a nice, well taken care of example!) In the future, they should be worth even more, given the low production numbers. [mic drop!]
Everybody freaks out when a car gets a 5 not an 8. 5 is still a good score, it just has to be relative (in Doug's opinion) to all other cars to be meaningful and not just please all sensitive viewers.
Yes Doug the highbeams are called “flash-to-pass lights” they also used them on the FC Mazda RX-7 who ironically enough was designed by the same guy who designed the 968
@@_Anthony___ The rest of the world cares.... This comment thread is not about what unit system is better, but about why Doug in this video did not type the metric units on the screen while he talks about the imperial units. This video was lacking it, that is what this thread is about.
@@SRX2004 looks like bad connection on pin C25 for the front wire harness. Causes the signal to be interrupted and it cycles the leveling motor which causes the wiggle.
the first thing i thought but some modern cars have this coulor scheme ,but when this car came out only bad taste people did this to the cars like painting bumpers because chrome at the time was the same of having a very old car , wich lot´s of fine 70´s cars were destructed and if you wanted to keep one you had to pay good money to re-chrome all parts painted with a brush,as an example a bmw 2002 tii that i paid in 92 what today is 250€ and last year i sold it for 50.000 € and istill have 3 from diferent years with diferent specifications as an example a 72 bmw 2002 alpina with older finishings compared to 74 and 75 same model cars and this alpina i was told that it´s very rare and for colectors even worth more but this i trade it for a 3 head pioneer cassette deck, that cost me in 91 337 € just after a year i made the trade,this near mint condition cars,regards
The car handles very neutral with its rear placed transaxle! But it does not pull 3G’s or even 2 for that matter! Therefore 5 is adequate. We’re talking the best on the road today not the 90’s
I love how Porsche can take out half the equipment, give it a special name, only make a few of them and tack on an extra $20,000! And have no problem selling everyone of them! But Porsche wrote the book on manipulating Horse Power, handling, looks, pricing. To neatly fill a segment! Porsche never lost sight of who buttered their bread! Even going so far as to make a car 5 pounds lighter give it an extra 5 hp make the car .1 seconds faster than the competition... so they can still say were the best and the fastest! In any given year! LOL
I might be the only one but every time Doug reviews a Porsche I think of Need For Speed Porsche Unleashed and all the fun I had "driving" the models he reviewed.
1. Same dash as 944/2 (since 1985.5). Same headlight switch, directionals indicator, 3-button clock, etc. Nothing new here. 2. 928 had similar bug-eye headlights prior to 968. Nothing new here. 3. 924 and 944 have E-brake handle in same place. Nothing new here either. 4. The headlight switch / ability to leave car with headlights up when car is off is the same as 944 (and I'm pretty sure 924 and 928). So a lot of the "THIS car has..." and "I've never seen..." features pointed out existed in many prior P-cars. Other than that, a very good review.
Doug, a few other items that were unique to the 968, but not specific to the CS version, were Porsche's first use of variable valve timing known as Variocam. You should of felt that change in power at higher rpm while driving which coincides with the intake cam changing position (only on intake). Also I believe the 968 was the first production Porsche to use a 6-speed manual in 1992. The 911 didn't get one until the 993 in 1995 and also used the same variable intake cam tech. These are fairly important details in Porsche's history and helped drive the tech into theirs cars in the later 90's and beyond. One final thing is the high performance of the brakes that at the time were tested and allowed track use without fading in stock form where most other performance cars at that same time faded badly (aka BMW M cars and the like). I prefer the 968 brakes to my modern BMW anyday. If I had let you borrow a car that was anything unique, I would of informed you of these important details. Now if you could find a 968 Turbo S to review that would stack up better with modern cars or even a Turbo RS if you're lucky enough to find and drive the 1 in 3 made.
Doug please do a "reading youtube comments" video on your more Doug demuro channel...it's quarantine period and good content as u don't even have to go outside
Because that's how modern Porsche owners are. Less fun than a speeding ticket. But I guess they're doing a good job preserving nice cars for their second owners. I can't wait to thrash one of their babied cars.
I agree. A bit harsh on the review and I own both a 968 CS and a 993. My 968 CS out handles my baseline 993 ... just like my 88' 944 Turbo out handled and out braked my 87' 3.2 Carrera.
Great car! I love the 968! The quirks are 944 leftover things. Like: the trip reset button, the parking brake handle location, the engine, even. The engine is half of the 928 engine, thus the balance shafts to smooth out the vibrations. (The balance shaft technology was licensed from Mitsubishi, as opposed to redeveloping it themselves.) I disagree with your scores, though. Sorry! I would definitely score the 968 much higher than an RX-7 and way higher than the Type-R Integra. Both are not timeless designs, and are somewhat forgettable. Especially the RX-7! (I loved my Type R Integra that I owned while living in Japan, which I got, right when they first came out in 1989 in their market. -So I can say that!) I currently own an '87 Porsche 951 (944 turbo), and many of the things you lowered the scores on, many Porsche 944/968 drivers love. The look of the 968 is MUCH better than the RX-7 or the Integra, and better than 99% of the cars on the road, even today! It has a timeless look about it that has aged very well, just like the 951 has. However, I think that the 968 is actually the better looking car of the two. That being said, I still get compliments every time I take my 951 out for a drive. Not many other cars garner accolades like the 951 or the 968, and it's because of their timeless designs, yet capable driving characteristics, reliability, and the fact that you can do most work on it yourself, because the engine isn't hiding under the middle or rear of the car, -it has a cult like following for a good reason. (Nothing wrong with the other Porsches, but a little known fact is that the 924/944/968 series of cars are easy to work on, pretty much, Granted, the timing belts are better left to a pro.) Would have loved to see more driving of the car, but overall, a very nicely done video. Thank you!
I am a 944/951/968 fanatic, but I have to disagree with your assessment of the RX-7, the FD3S generation is still one of the most beautiful overall automotive designs of the modern era in my eyes. I would also say that the thermostat and the heater core hoses are not so easy, from my recollection 😋
@@joshuagro7773 the 968 is basically a 944 S3, they ended up making so many detail changes that they decided to give it a new model number even though the overall architecture was still very similar.
I own both an FD RX-7 and a 968 coupe. The 968 handles better. The RX-7 is faster. Looks wise its a toss up. RX-7 gets more attention. Most people have no idea what the 968 is when they see it. 968 is more rare by the production numbers.
@@DevyKins go for it! If it has been maintained well (does not even need to be super well maintained, they take some abuse) it'll last a long time. The engines will work for years to come. The chassis is agile and great for a weekend car or an autocross car.
I used to own a 944S when I lived in San Diego in the 90s and was a member of the local Porsche Club of America chapter. I almost bought a used 968 that I saw for sale in the LA area. I recognize Clairemont Mesa Blvd there in north San Diego. That's close to the shop where I used to take my Porsche, Black Forest on Engineer Road. John and Mark used to take good care of my car. I also used to take it to Dieter's , downtown. Thanks for reviewing such a cool car.
Hi Doug. One of the particularities of this Porsche is that the gearbox is situated in the back, integrated with the rear differential, which gives an almost perfect weight distribution ;-)
1SaG it that isn’t why they kept them and it is documented. Porsche was not Trying to have it resemble the 928, that is a misconception I’m afraid. Don’t believe me read David Sparrow’s book.
I couldn't believe he would gripe about the CS either. Most cars abreviate there models. Does he expect Chevy to spell out Supersport on their cars also.
Good for the dude who got a/c added back to the car. Yea, driving a classic is fun, but I've never been able to surpass swampass and everyone in my car sweating, to actually have fun in a car like this. (our summers are 90+). All my project cars have working a/c, even my trail-rig bronco with no doors or top. Believe it or not, having that a/c is so relieving.
Doug's the type of guy to have about a hundred videos lined up for channel longevity. I wonder if he's got an Excel spreadsheet with every episode rated? "And sooo, that was my latest video. And now it's time to give it ... a Doug Score."
Porsche Product Red
This should have way more likes.
@Brett Ricky Ahem. No one does. Bugger off
I had a later 944 with many similar quirks and features…. I always appreciated how big the hatch was, particularly when I figured out that the metal moon roof didn’t just vent or slide halfway back (looking like a roof mounted spoiler). There was a way to “unlock” the rear lifters and place the entire roof in the hatch, almost like a one piece Targa. Also the oversized 4 cylinder had balance shafts making it very smooth and vibration free. It was half of a 928 V8. I shortened the length of my shift lever as the rear mounted transmission was fun but the shifts felt so long because of the lever. Putting a stubby shifter and leather boot made it feel quicker more like a Miata shifter. The flashlight in the key was handy when ice formed over the keyhole so you wouldn’t “key” your own car since there is no protective area around the tiny keyhole, and keyless was optional, despite the car having power locks.
Car: No radio.
Porsche: let’s keep the antenna.
really curious fact...if they did apply a plastic plug they could save more weight!
THAT appears to be a cell phone antenna... from back in the day when that was a necessary item for your brick phone... if you were fortunate enough to have one...
So, in the mid-nineties, that was cool and worth the extra weight!
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In the 90s a lot of radios could be pulled right out of the car, the whole unit not just the anti theft faceplate.
Still gotta connect to them aliens somehow.
@@donwa7772 remember in Simpsons hit and run you had to take out the cars with the squiggly antenna
Must have forgotten to select the red tire option.
"THISSS..." rating. Not too harsh on the consonant start, a nice bassy intro, all concluded with a pleasingly soothing tone and pitch for the "s" without too much expression.
I rate it a-uhh, 9.5/10. Awesome word, given some space for the sheer respect of no perfection.
Stop it. Get help.
I’d rate it a 8.5
Which places it here against other “THISSS ...” I’ve said over the years.
The “THISSS..” beats out the “THIISS..” 2018 in the weekend category but ranks fairly low in the daily category overall.
Wow people on the internet really are lame. No one will remember this in a year. Loser
@@boxedfender4810 Ironic
That wiggly/lazy-eye left headlight is seriously creepin' me out!
I know I thought I was tripping!
_I noticed it too @ __9:27__ 0.o_
_It looks like it's going through some sort of psychosis from the previous owner aka,_
_"El Fappo" ordering those red wheels._
yeah y were the headlight shaking?
Noticed it tooo🤣 funny as hell
@@phantommedia9964 Probably from the vibrations of the engine. It really creeps me out!
the most interesting fact about this car is, that it's the last porsche where getting less didn't equal a peak in pricing. nowadays, buying a porsche without a/c and radio is always more expensive, than buying one with every option picked, unlike this one, which was the cheapest in the 968 range.
porsche was at near bankruptcy at the point this car was on offer, that's why they didn't make a special rearwindow for this one to accomodate the lack of the rear wiper, and other parts to cover for the lack of removed options.
Porsche: What color do you want the car to be?
Original owner: *FIRETRUCK*
Omg this made me laugh a lot :D
Yellow
Stub your toe?
*FIRETRUCK*
Its called gaurds red.
If only the wheels weren't red
I was doing a delivery like an hour ago and saw one of these that a guy was working on in his garage!!!!!! What a coincidence!!!
The great thing about these Porsches is that you can do work on it yourself, as opposed to the mid-engined Boxster, or the 911 series.
GreenTekHaus u can work on a boxster or 911 on your own lol
GreenTekHaus u can work on a boxster or 911 on your own lol
Garrent Hill not any new or newer ones
Follow the white rabbit 🐇
9:30 The 928 had headlights like that for years.
12:57 The parking brake location is carried over from the 924.
13:16 The 924 and I'm guessing the 944 had the key ignition to the right also.
14:21 The rear seats in the standard model fold down flush and give the same amount of cargo space.
15:47 There's been many 4 cylinder Porsches. Not unusual.
Damn. Its honestly like we can resd the review in the comments at this point. Doug seems to not know these things.
Go buy a Cadillac 🤣🤣🤣
@@testarosso1368 , What does Cadillac have to do with this?
It's all right ❕
Important to me is, that the gears in the back transaxle.
But for me, the 924, 944 and 968 was never interested in the 80s and 90s.
911 is the only one ❣️😅
Love from Berlin 🇩🇪
Ramsi 🙋🏻♂️
@@testarosso1368
Why I did 💡
We need a shirt saying "THISSSSS is a shirt"
please
Yeeaeeess
O 99 que verga?
No it sounds like I will have a gay lisp
I’ve borrowed this shirt from a viewer here in the san diego area
Painter : how much red you want ?
The owner : YES
🙄
Doug: yes
@The King Italian cars look best in primary colors, German cars look best in titanium colors
G E American cars suck at all colors
Mr.Harrold Ramanan
Quiet.
The headlights aren't off on the "middle" position on the headlight switch. They are just using their weaker "parking light" bulbs. This feature is mandated by law in some European countries, and I believe it's supposed to be used when you park your car at night at the side of a narrow street.
The weakest setting are called City Lights (which I don't see turn on here). Parking Lights are exactly that. But the thing is, you only light up one side that is on the road side. Front+rear lights up then.
@@donkremer6019 and this can be engaged with the Indicator switch. If you engage the left indicator an shut the ignition with the light dial in the middle, only the left parking lights will be on. In Germany you have to use this outside of the town if you are parking next to the street with no additional light source.
@@florianj6490 I know. Both my German spec E36's have this function. Though I have used in once in 15 years.
10:21 the dim light makes sense, as this ‚parking light‘ is mandatory in European spec vehicles
Teamgeist i do because I have a headlight out. To embarrassed to drive with one headlight on so I just turn on the parking lights
@@JoeyLovesTrains In my country you always have to drive with headlights on
@@jaskajokunen3716 suomi perkele!
Some idiots in the UK drive at night with just their parking lights on. You also have the idiots who think their DRLs are sufficiently bright enough to use at night, not realising their fucking tail lights don't come on with them.
Liam S my parking lights/drl’s turn my tail lights on
I sold my yellow clubsport back to the previous owner after having it for 5 years, and he still has it and takes it on trackdays regularly. It is such a superb car to drive on British country roads, and I do miss it greatly. Damn responsibilities!
It was actually completely normal for a car without air conditioning to have a smaller, lower-capacity battery, alternator, and radiator. Back when A/C was a dealer-installed option, you had to order the car from the factory with an "A/C prep kit" which would include those upgrades in order to facilitate installing A/C.
It may not be a Porsche, but my first Ford Ranger didn't have air, and it also had a smaller cooling system that warned you it wasn't built for AC.
Doug: * hilariously imitates Porsche fans *
Every single Dougfan: *classic*
Corvette fans are laughing
*Tesla fanboys intensifies*
the sad part is that it‘s true. Porsche has pretty much become unattainable for the real enthusiats. So the Boomers are buying „rare“ porsches just to store them in their garage in hopes of a return on investment
My son uses “thisss” if he wants to show me something.
Mine does the same
At least y'all now have ammo in case they ever say something to you about dad jokes.
Oh no Doug's contagious
be careful - maybe he will give you a low weekend score :P
THISSS...is my report card where I got an F in math sorry dad.
Take it to some twisties and pick up the pace and then you'll discover the magic in the chassis. It gets even better if it has the M030 suspension option (which also included a brake upgrade).
Yes, a big difference withe the M030 susp/brake option that is not on this particular car.
I raced a 968 for about 15 years, and even though the power was modest, it had good torque grunt and the handling was excellent with the rear transaxle, and you could hammer it without it breaking. Won my class in quite a few races with it.
Doug: THISSSSSSSSSSSS
Everyone else: Has a Dougasm
* “ttthhhhhis”
Doug: Thiiisss
Everyone: no radio?🤔
Well, I bought a '95 968 like a week ago.
Doug: Here's a review of the 968.
so he is to a seer like nostradamos ,not like but in a lower level dimention
"Slicktop" will now be my euphemism for baldness.
😂😂
LOL! Also “streamlined” is another good one.
Love it.
Gotta market those aerodynamics, chicks will love it.
🏆 🥇 LOL
I have one of those. It’s alright didn’t do well in races so I sold it on the auction house. Then I got another one and now it just sits there in my garage. (This is all in Forza by the way)
🤣🤣🤣
poke stone HAHA! AWESOME!
😂😂😂
You've never driven a real one, they are a fuckin blast!! I had a 924S and a 944, they drove like a go kart on steroids. That's the bad thing about games... All cars seem slow up against a McLaren or Zonda
@@backwoodsjunkie08 So it is in real life too... all cars are slow compared to f1 , zonda, veyron...
"I just want to adjust the air vent..."
"Dammit Muriel ! You reset my trip odometer! Now how will I know how far it is to Road America?"
weird how the headlights keeps moving when turned on
I'm guessing thats camera resonance because the car was running.
Looks almost like something's wrong with the motor. I didn't notice the passenger side moving...
Okay they both move, but looks like the driver side is more prominent.
It's the camera stabilization.
It's a 3.0L 4 cyl that's why i think
10:33 in Germany it's allowed to drive with parking light with the fog light. This can be helpful if it is extremely foggy or extremely snowy. Often the headlights dazzle the driver like a white wall. In this situation it's often better to leave the fog light on in addition to the parking lights.
At least for austria: you have to have the parking light on if you park on the side of a street that has no designated parking spots or all night lighting!
@@maxfotsch6724 this is exactly an other comment I wrote to Doug's wondering about light switch position one. This explains this feature. But in Germany it's not a regulation, only a recommendation, I guess
10:46 It's very useful when cruising at very high speeds in the left lane on the Autobahn.
You alert drivers ahead of you to stay clear to prevent accidents. That's just how you're supposed to do it on the Autobahn, you flash the high beams.
I will never forget the first time I got in one of these and was surprised by the speed. I was more surprised by the inline 4 cylinder when the owner popped the hood. These will always have a special place in my heart.
You can keep headlights up when the car is off in freezing conditions, sometimes pop ups refuse to pop up. Read it in a few car manuals from cars Ive owned over the years
good point, happened to me in an 80's prelude during a freezing rain situation, it was dangerous
steelydan133 Me too in my 76 Corvette. Freezing rain put a thick layer of ice over headlights. They wouldn’t open.
Not really in the 944/968 series. Turning the headlight knob back to the middle position still illuminates parking lights. If you turn the car completely off and then turn the knob all the way back to the off position, then the headlights will remain up, but if you leave it in the middle position you’ll drain the battery. You have to remember to turn them back on before you turn the ignition on or they will retract again. I’ve can definitely be a problem. Had the headlights on my 951 freeze shut in the past.
No, it's to engaging the parking light. If you do this in freezing conditions the battery drains very fast. Not a good idea though
@@busabkickinbutt I mentioned your comment after writing mine. You're totally right!
Is it me or did the left headlight seem to jiggle in the video.
I thought both of them did. Thought he was gonna talk about it but he never did.
It's a Porche thing. She looks well designed but EEHHHH. Not really.
...that car had a late night.
I worked for a major car magazine in the late 90s and the editor had a 1994 968. As a 21 year old I was pretty happy when he parked it under a tree and got sap on the convertible top. I offered to take it home for the weekend to get the sap off of it. That was a fun weekend!
5:52 Wait a minute, no radio but the car still has an antenna on its roof 🤔
That's 168 grams of antenna they could've saved! I bet the poor engineer who forgot about it was handed a Walther with a single round in it and told that he knows what he must do.
How Doug missed that 🤔
It's to unscrew and whip non-porsche owners!
@@backwoodsjunkie08 Bender bending Rodriguez likes it 👍
That car had radio, also this antenna was for brick phone
14:01 that's a VW key. My dad had the same key with a VW logo on it when he had his Golf Mk II in 1994
Sleh Ben Hamida haha, my dad’s 02’ A6 Avant technically has the same key as a Veyron.😆
They're similar but actually very different. The 928 had a similar key, and those things are like $40 just for that little "torch". There is a Porsche crest on the other side.
Wouldn’t 1994 be a Mk III?
@@dpsimply Yes. VW stopped making the Mk2 in 1992.
Late '90s Saab keys had a similar feature--even though they had separate keyfob remote controls by then. It didn't work very well, that was back in the days before cheap LEDs, so it was a tiny incandescent bulb that just barely lit up.
Seems strange to bring up an issue about the abbreviation CS, when GT was never a problem
Or RS
Well no. Cars like the Maserati Gran Turismo doesn't have "GT" badges.
@@Malc180s This. "RS" (Rennsport in German, meaning race sport) goes back to 73 and is one of Porsche's most famous marks. The purchaser of this car wouldn't be at all surprised by a "CS"
@@motorpolitan8884 yeah, but even American cars have abbreviations and have done some 60's at least. Camero SS, corvette ZR1, shelby GT350, charger RT... so Dana's point is correct. If he is actually shocked by them just putting CS on it, then does he think all the other letters on cars are just random. Does he actually think BMW is a foreign word and the full name of the company.
finally i have one of 1000 cars he has review, i have one in the same color, from my grandpa, here on mexico. and its amazing.
That's so cool
Meanwhile I would not even inheritate my grandma's camry
the color of wheels makes me uncomfortable
Alexander Agreed. Also, Doug makes me uncomfortable.
'This is uncomfortable'
LKS 2020
Black is always cool.
I think they are okay, but the owner should have them converted to 3-piece cup wheels. THOSE look REALLY sharp on the 968 and the 951 (944 turbo)!
_It's that horror scene when Crockett & Rico take you to where they found your Black 928, that was stolen by a "Dirty Sanchez" and "El Fappo". or It's like seeing today's sexually-confused, liberal weirdlees that wear skinny jeans and Red Sneakers._
This for quite some time was the largest and most powerful production four cylinder engine. It's basically just a single bored and stroked cylinder bank of the 5.5L V8 from the 928.
"Best way to remove a pound is to find 16 places to remove an ounce*
Or take a leak before you get in
😂 🤣 😆
Lol
shit and leak so you dont have unnecessary wight, even take of your clothes
How many ounces are there in 100 grams?
WHY DO THE HEADLIGHTS WIGGLE I DONT GET IT
It shouldn't. Something is broken.
maybe the car was running. The vibrations may have made it move that way. It just so happens that the frame rate of the camera syncs up with the vibrations of the car.
I thought that. Could be windy? Cant see any trees to tell that though?
Helps the headlights cut through the air.
yeah, on 10:05
One of my favourite reviews. The weight-saving strategy Porsche used reminds me of the "gram strategy" Mazda uses now. I love the look of the body coloured wheels. If it was me, and I wanted weight savings and practicality for a daily driver and a fun racer, I'd get the crank windows and the AC.
remember that story from vinwiki "this could be red"
Gosh that was awful lmao
A quirk of this video: both scores are "weekend" scores.
Doug, you should consider getting rid of the "value" category. You give this collectible a 5, yet I've seen you give new cars 7-8 even though we both know it will lose half it's value within a few years. Comparing collectibles to new cars in this sense just doesn't work. In my opinion, you should start giving new cars a lower value score. And start giving older cars/collectibles a higher score, while still factoring in the quality of the car/potential depreciation and all that. Something to think about!
It's hard to find parts for an old car than a new car and there's no telling how much it will cost....
I think the features category should also reflect what was available the time.
He also raves about vehicles and then give them lower scores.
I have to agree... his value and style scores are low. The 968 still garners oohs and ahhs from people who also ask if it’s a “new Porsche”? How many other cars, even other Porsches, have that cache and timeless design? I mean, seriously, a 911 of any ilk, is recognizable as a car from it’s period by almost every driver in the world. Whereas, the 968 (and the 944 turbo, too!) both have a timeless design that begs some people to (again) ask if it’s a new Porsche model. To me, that means at the least, a 9 out of 10 for the exterior style/design! Right now, these cars are still bargains as classic cars. (Read: big value. Like a 9 out of 10, if you hunt for a nice, well taken care of example!) In the future, they should be worth even more, given the low production numbers. [mic drop!]
Everybody freaks out when a car gets a 5 not an 8.
5 is still a good score, it just has to be relative (in Doug's opinion) to all other cars to be meaningful and not just please all sensitive viewers.
Yes Doug the highbeams are called “flash-to-pass lights” they also used them on the FC Mazda RX-7 who ironically enough was designed by the same guy who designed the 968
Clicked so fast just to hear "thisssss"
*”ttthhhhis”
@@JordanBlue1 sorry, my bad lol
Why did you stop converting the units to metric? It's a German car after all..
Yes, please always convert the units it helps is non americans alot.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Rakim Witczak - The main reason Americans don't know metric is they don't know it.
His main audience is American, he is a American. The largest profit is Americans. This app was created by Americans. The internet itself, who cares
@@_Anthony___ The rest of the world cares.... This comment thread is not about what unit system is better, but about why Doug in this video did not type the metric units on the screen while he talks about the imperial units. This video was lacking it, that is what this thread is about.
Finally a sportscar that has less interior features than my base model E46 316i
316i *SPORTSCAR*
Your 316i is probably lighter than a E46 M3 too.
The 1988 924S-Special Edition. The original Transaxle Club Sport. Lighter and even more aero dynamic
@@ahrred3127 1285kg
@@angelesc2033 of course I didn't reffer my car as a sportscar lol.
Doug: *Turns on headlights*
Headlights: *Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle*
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who saw that but it seemed to only be the left light doing the wiggle?
@@jedpetersen3806 Wonder why it was doing that? Maybe a problem with the motor that raises and lowers the light.
Wiggle wiggle wiggle like a bowl of soup
@@SRX2004 looks like bad connection on pin C25 for the front wire harness. Causes the signal to be interrupted and it cycles the leveling motor which causes the wiggle.
I noticed that as well.
same color wheels is like wearing red socks with red shoes..
Does look kind of clown-ish but I can appreciate it.
Hey give them a break they were coming off the cocaine fueled 80s.
No kidding I LOVE the 968 and I HATE those wheels!!
the first thing i thought but some modern cars have this coulor scheme ,but when this car came out only bad taste people did this to the cars like painting bumpers because chrome at the time was the same of having a very old car , wich lot´s of fine 70´s cars were destructed and if you wanted to keep one you had to pay good money to re-chrome all parts painted with a brush,as an example a bmw 2002 tii that i paid in 92 what today is 250€ and last year i sold it for 50.000 € and istill have 3 from diferent years with diferent specifications as an example a 72 bmw 2002 alpina with older finishings compared to 74 and 75 same model cars and this alpina i was told that it´s very rare and for colectors even worth more but this i trade it for a 3 head pioneer cassette deck, that cost me in 91 337 € just after a year i made the trade,this near mint condition cars,regards
@@pancakelens75 also no one noticed that it´s a modified 944 body
I love when Doug reviews Porsche!
He recently re-reviewed a Carrera GT as stated in an interview. And notice how he changed the title of his older CGT video
Decepticon Stinger what was the previous title? I don’t remember
I always loved the 968. This was the absolute best version. I hope to own one some day. I've never even seen one, only in pictures. Thank you.
968 Turbo S and 968 Turbo RS are even better!
Bruce CorwiThanks Captain obvious. ....and how rare are those?
@@robbelliii As far as I know, only 14 Turbo S and 4 Turbo RS were built.
Only a 5 for handling? This was considered to be the finest handling car in its day. NOT in its class, finest of all!
* in its day.
All cars are included on the same absolute scale, therefore 5 is highly respectable. He gave some "fast" cars a 2 for acceleration.
Doug is a complainer .. Not a driver.
the "dougscore" is nowhere close to being accurate or consistent.
The car handles very neutral with its rear placed transaxle! But it does not pull 3G’s or even 2 for that matter! Therefore 5 is adequate. We’re talking the best on the road today not the 90’s
I love how Porsche can take out half the equipment, give it a special name, only make a few of them and tack on an extra $20,000! And have no problem selling everyone of them! But Porsche wrote the book on manipulating Horse Power, handling, looks, pricing. To neatly fill a segment! Porsche never lost sight of who buttered their bread! Even going so far as to make a car 5 pounds lighter give it an extra 5 hp make the car .1 seconds faster than the competition... so they can still say were the best and the fastest! In any given year! LOL
I might be the only one but every time Doug reviews a Porsche I think of Need For Speed Porsche Unleashed and all the fun I had "driving" the models he reviewed.
Same. That game was the main reason of my passion for Porsches.
0:14 TTTHHHHIISSSSSS is whyyy we love. Doug. Demuro.
1. Same dash as 944/2 (since 1985.5). Same headlight switch, directionals indicator, 3-button clock, etc. Nothing new here.
2. 928 had similar bug-eye headlights prior to 968. Nothing new here.
3. 924 and 944 have E-brake handle in same place. Nothing new here either.
4. The headlight switch / ability to leave car with headlights up when car is off is the same as 944 (and I'm pretty sure 924 and 928).
So a lot of the "THIS car has..." and "I've never seen..." features pointed out existed in many prior P-cars. Other than that, a very good review.
5:50 No radio. But it still has an antenna?
lol , good catch!!!!
Could have been a later addition? The person who bought this obviously like some creature comforts.
really curious fact...if they did apply a plastic plug they could save more weight!
Originally it came with radio and same antenna was for a brick phone
nice catch bro. here's your trophy 💩
DOUG I LOVE U BUT WHEN IS THE E30 COMING. You posted it on IG 5 months ago........
Right back when bmw use to be cool
d o u g c e m b e r
Doug, a few other items that were unique to the 968, but not specific to the CS version, were Porsche's first use of variable valve timing known as Variocam. You should of felt that change in power at higher rpm while driving which coincides with the intake cam changing position (only on intake). Also I believe the 968 was the first production Porsche to use a 6-speed manual in 1992. The 911 didn't get one until the 993 in 1995 and also used the same variable intake cam tech. These are fairly important details in Porsche's history and helped drive the tech into theirs cars in the later 90's and beyond. One final thing is the high performance of the brakes that at the time were tested and allowed track use without fading in stock form where most other performance cars at that same time faded badly (aka BMW M cars and the like). I prefer the 968 brakes to my modern BMW anyday. If I had let you borrow a car that was anything unique, I would of informed you of these important details. Now if you could find a 968 Turbo S to review that would stack up better with modern cars or even a Turbo RS if you're lucky enough to find and drive the 1 in 3 made.
This just screams early 90s. In every way. Someone grab my CD player and put on No Doubt so I can feel good about my midlife crisis. Thanks, Dad.
Don’t speak, I know just what you’re saying
No Doubt?
Let me tell you a couple of three things
No Doubt - Are you happy now? 🤣
"Such a weird way to do it..." Doug, did you forget that you reviewed a 928 GTS a year ago?
And GT2 and GT3 RS
Doug please do a "reading youtube comments" video on your more Doug demuro channel...it's quarantine period and good content as u don't even have to go outside
🤣🤣🤣
Doug, the type of guy that leaves a car meet in a Mustang and doesn’t run into the crowd.
I love Doug making fun of Porsche enthusiasts / owners. "Stitching on the parking brake handle.." haha cracks me up
Because that's how modern Porsche owners are. Less fun than a speeding ticket. But I guess they're doing a good job preserving nice cars for their second owners. I can't wait to thrash one of their babied cars.
Thats why modern ones can have such a small gearknob; there's still a massive knob in the driver's seat.
Commonly acknowledged as one of the best handling Porsches ever. So I’m not sure exactly how you figure a) a 5/10 and b) not as good as a 993...
Because it's old and isn't that good at handling as it's modern peers.
@@weasle2904 it was built at the same time as the 993.
Because you only find this out when you drive the car hard on backroads or the track. Which is not the kind of driving Doug does.
I agree. A bit harsh on the review and I own both a 968 CS and a 993. My 968 CS out handles my baseline 993 ... just like my 88' 944 Turbo out handled and out braked my 87' 3.2 Carrera.
Doug was smart to record videos before lockdown started.
I guess you could say he dodge demuro’d a bullet there
"i swear the "thisssssss" gets longer every video".
It’s “thhhhis” not “thissssssssss”
And it really isn’t getting longer
Agree
It really doesn’t
Great car! I love the 968! The quirks are 944 leftover things. Like: the trip reset button, the parking brake handle location, the engine, even. The engine is half of the 928 engine, thus the balance shafts to smooth out the vibrations. (The balance shaft technology was licensed from Mitsubishi, as opposed to redeveloping it themselves.)
I disagree with your scores, though. Sorry!
I would definitely score the 968 much higher than an RX-7 and way higher than the Type-R Integra. Both are not timeless designs, and are somewhat forgettable. Especially the RX-7! (I loved my Type R Integra that I owned while living in Japan, which I got, right when they first came out in 1989 in their market. -So I can say that!) I currently own an '87 Porsche 951 (944 turbo), and many of the things you lowered the scores on, many Porsche 944/968 drivers love. The look of the 968 is MUCH better than the RX-7 or the Integra, and better than 99% of the cars on the road, even today! It has a timeless look about it that has aged very well, just like the 951 has. However, I think that the 968 is actually the better looking car of the two.
That being said, I still get compliments every time I take my 951 out for a drive. Not many other cars garner accolades like the 951 or the 968, and it's because of their timeless designs, yet capable driving characteristics, reliability, and the fact that you can do most work on it yourself, because the engine isn't hiding under the middle or rear of the car, -it has a cult like following for a good reason. (Nothing wrong with the other Porsches, but a little known fact is that the 924/944/968 series of cars are easy to work on, pretty much, Granted, the timing belts are better left to a pro.)
Would have loved to see more driving of the car, but overall, a very nicely done video.
Thank you!
I own a 944 and have to say the interior looks just the same!
@@joshuagro7773 yes, they didn't charge much, if anything.
I am a 944/951/968 fanatic, but I have to disagree with your assessment of the RX-7, the FD3S generation is still one of the most beautiful overall automotive designs of the modern era in my eyes.
I would also say that the thermostat and the heater core hoses are not so easy, from my recollection 😋
@@joshuagro7773 the 968 is basically a 944 S3, they ended up making so many detail changes that they decided to give it a new model number even though the overall architecture was still very similar.
I own both an FD RX-7 and a 968 coupe. The 968 handles better. The RX-7 is faster. Looks wise its a toss up. RX-7 gets more attention. Most people have no idea what the 968 is when they see it. 968 is more rare by the production numbers.
Love how it looks. Reminds me I'm still waiting for Porsche to make a front engine Coupé like a Panamera Coupé.
That would be a 928. 😃
14:28 "This is the pickup truck version of the 968". Actually the back seats on regular 968s fold down, so they all have that much cargo space.
944 and 968 are my two favorite Porsche's :)
I just got a 944 and it gives me peace of mind to see this cars red exclamation point lit up
Our neighbor is willing to sell his to me for around 5,000. Kind of tempted.
@@DevyKins go for it! If it has been maintained well (does not even need to be super well maintained, they take some abuse) it'll last a long time. The engines will work for years to come. The chassis is agile and great for a weekend car or an autocross car.
I like how everyone is commenting "THISSSSS!"
Its sounded way to aggressive
Ad: Volvo and safety
*Skips*
Doug: THIIIS IS A PORSCHE...
he might compare it because when one crashes a porshe is driving at 160 miles an hour ,so it´s not as safe as a volvo crash at 60 miles/hour, regards
I've been waiting for Doug to do the 944, but this will have to do
I feel like you can hear where he edited out the “And for more of my thoughts...” after AutoTrader sunset Oversteer.
Oh, is that why that went away? Huh.
You forgot the lack of airbag on the CS which was standard on the regular 968 from '93.
Doug is the type of guy to say “After you m’lady” to his car
Nice one
#BLACKLIVESMATTER
@@aLexGeNeSiS01 #BLACKPEOPLEARECRIMINALS
Yay, someone bringing up politics for no reason, and another showing they are the filth of humanity.
Love your content Doug DeMuro, you inspired me to start my own youtube channel.
Thank you for motivation.
Motivation to do something completely different?
@TableRocked Thank you. Motivation levels decreased by 20%
@@florianj6490 It's related to cars my dude
This is an absolutely lovely car.
I love the simplicity. I would have went with manual windows, radio, and air-conditioning.
These 80s and 90s porches make me let's just say I'm happy to see it
Doug, I'd like to see you review a Merkur Xr4ti, if you can find a nice one. I love old performance hatchbacks.
That car also had the key light! I used mine all the time!
It was a Ford Sierra in England, with the legendary Cosworth engine. Raced in the European touring car championships.
I used to own a 944S when I lived in San Diego in the 90s and was a member of the local Porsche Club of America chapter. I almost bought a used 968 that I saw for sale in the LA area.
I recognize Clairemont Mesa Blvd there in north San Diego. That's close to the shop where I used to take my Porsche, Black Forest on Engineer Road. John and Mark used to take good care of my car. I also used to take it to Dieter's , downtown. Thanks for reviewing such a cool car.
Doug: "...and the headlights pop up!"
Meanwhile James Pumphrey's ears start burning and he has no clue why.
Pop up up and down headlights! :D
😂😂
The “THIS” gets more and more aggressive 😂😂
STOP writing this comment it's annoying stop trying to get LiKeS
Seyair M haha ur mad edited comment lol
The weirder the car, the more intense the THIS.
I remember playing with my dad's keys in the 80's with that light lol, it seemed so high tech at the time and digital clocks! So futuristic lol.
In the 90s you mean ?
@@fabianbauza4448 No Ford's had them in the 80's in the UK.
“THIISSSSSS” is what I’d choose to represent the human race to aliens
I still remeber my dad owning one of these....such a great car ❤
Hi Doug. One of the particularities of this Porsche is that the gearbox is situated in the back, integrated with the rear differential, which gives an almost perfect weight distribution ;-)
"You was at the Clubsport"
Headlights up when I first met you
Could’nt get enough
Failed to mention light design and rounded wings were to build family resemblance to what would become the 993
Well... that and the fact that the pop-"out" headlights were basically on loan from the 928. Which had had them for over a decade at this point.
1SaG it that isn’t why they kept them and it is documented. Porsche was not Trying to have it resemble the 928, that is a misconception I’m afraid. Don’t believe me read David Sparrow’s book.
Porsche was trying to have the 968 rear bumper design resemble the 928 though.
Harm Lagaay was quoted on this in the book, who was the designer of the Porsche 968 and 993
robbelliii not to mention he designed the 924, and BMW Z1
own the regular 968 back 20 years ago and just loved the handling! Went to many Porsche track days and the car was so much fun!
CS stands for clubsport the same way RS stand for Rennsport.
Same thing
I couldn't believe he would gripe about the CS either. Most cars abreviate there models. Does he expect Chevy to spell out Supersport on their cars also.
@@petequinones3454 they used to spell it out fully back in the 60's and 70's. It was in a really slick looking font too.
And Grand Tourer for GT
14:00 I need this for my house key
I need a remote keyless entry for mine.
I need a house.
@@Sheridantank LOL...awww
My father's 1988 Subaru GL-10 turbo wagon had a lighted key.
They have keys like that at Home Depot. The light is usually blue. I’ve had one before and it’s great
My 87 Scirocco 16V had the lighted key fob. I've always liked the 968 thought that they were good looking cars. Great review.
The head light gets into parking light at the middle setting
Doug can't be bothered by such minute details.
Doug also can't be bothered to remember that the 928 had the same style of headlights.
@@rickc2102 or that the 944 has the same reset button for the odometer
@@rickc2102 I like that one better because well... V8
did you notice the headlights doing a little shimmy dance when turned on?? LOL
Fun review, Doug. Surprised you missed the super-lightweight airbags on the Club Sport...😉
When you're kinda down but after that 0:13 bit you're smiling again.
For real, Doug's sarcasm brightens my day.
0:14 Karen DeMuro would like to speak to your dealership manager.
“Thisss is
The original Lightning McQueen”
🤣🤣🤣
Good for the dude who got a/c added back to the car. Yea, driving a classic is fun, but I've never been able to surpass swampass and everyone in my car sweating, to actually have fun in a car like this. (our summers are 90+). All my project cars have working a/c, even my trail-rig bronco with no doors or top. Believe it or not, having that a/c is so relieving.
Doug: *upload during pandemic*
*Everyone liked that*
He made a video about this to explain that he has a lot of reviews filmed but not published yet
Doug's the type of guy to have about a hundred videos lined up for channel longevity. I wonder if he's got an Excel spreadsheet with every episode rated? "And sooo, that was my latest video. And now it's time to give it ... a Doug Score."