Team Garmin because they work on both Android and iOS. However, the functionality of your Garmin watch in terms of smart features is much better on Android than on iOS
Both, I simply use both Watches. xD I love Fitness+ on the Apple watch when it comes to workouts and all that stuf, you can do there. But when I am outside stuff, like riding my Bike for more then 1 or 2 Days, or other advenced sport Activitis. I am happy to have the Garmin with all it's advenced Sport features.
I have a slightly different perspective as I was a long term Garmin user, then tried to switch to AWU because I really love Apple ecosystem but then ultimately went back to Garmin. And the main reason was that I struggled to figure out why should I use AWU. I found myself more often than not just reaching for my phone or talking to Siri because it was just more convenient and faster. Meanwhile, I was kind of surprised how bad AWU actually is for anything that's not running, diving or gym fitness. I've ended up deciding that Garmin gives me just enough smartwatch functionality while also having many unique aspects on its own. It feels like it's another tool that complements my other devices rather than just being an (very limited) iPhone on my wrist.
I love my original Garmin Instinct. I used to have an apple watch but sold it. I don't need another iphone on my wrist. And the garmin's battery is ridiculous. A week later after I charged it, it went down 1 bar out of 5. And the fact that I can use it on it's own without needing a phone for such things as hiking, etc. is perfect. Not to mention it's the most comfortable watch I've ever worn.
Agree! I did exactly the same but with samsung watch 6. I started wondering what to do with the samsung watch. Then i went back to garmin wich is really great.
odd one here... Droid mainly [until i needed a small cell watch standalone] now I have my Garmin Dive computer Mk2 + Mk3i + Ultra2 watch ....so need to run deco tools like multi deco.. [spite against droid is strong now] Linux an dUnix workstation for at home or laptop deco runtimes... looking into a tablet or a iphone for app use... [] I only need the garmins for Dive data, but I only need the ultra2 for bottom timer and cell phone [mainly cell hone] never can have enough backup on your dive gear. but it comes down to hardware for my dive planning and dive logs at home and on the go... so until I can have a linux cell phone with a linux watch and my linux desktop. I will need a mobile solution for cell phone and a place to run my subsurface sw garmin tools plus multideco ( these will not run on the watch, but the watch will go in the water ) now a tablet and phone might also be in the works for the software... and other tiems... [] I guarantee they will not be google based [] -- apple does have a system that works.. it may be that it is based using BSD and has had 15 years to get the stupid removed.
I've been using AWU for a year, just got the Epix gen 2 pro last week, and I'm in love. I like my AWU but this epix is the watch Ive always wanted. The design is much better, and the amount of info you get is silly. For back country use there is no comparison.
I have the Apple Ultra 2 because I don’t like carrying my phone and it’s the first Apple Watch I’m not afraid of breaking. The Ultra 2 is the best smart watch out there. I have my Garmin Fenix 6X Sapphire for hiking and all other physical activity. I’m currently tracking my sleep with the Ultra 2 but I’m finding the Garmin is more accurate tracking sleep also. Garmin makes the best sports watches out there.
Great video! Garmin all the way. Ive used Samsung, Fitbit and Apple. They are good watches in their own ways. But Garmin is just a beast of a watch. I own the 51mm Epix Pro. Love this watch.
A lifelong Apple user who is just selling my Ultra having got the Epix pro. Suits my needs for all the reasons you mention. Having retired last year. I don’t need a smart watch, but a durable fitness watch that is geared to my cycling, hiking and fitness needs. It’s helped support my fitness gains. Garmin Pay is limited, but then I still have my phone for that. So the Epix, Edge 840 and power meters etc, all feed into connect.
Both. I somehow can’t decide. I love my Garmin with all the stats in one plus, but miss my AW when I wear it, and the other way round 🤷♀️😉! All the best for 2024!!! 🍀
I’m an Apple guy and a « sometimes » Garmin user. The only drawback has always been the weak HR results on Garmin wearables.. but not this time bcause they finally nailed it 👌 I’m looking forward to switching definitely ✌🏼
I currently own an Apple Watch Ultra and a Fenix 7 pro . I much prefer the Garmin . The fact I get approximately 18 days battery , lots of training stats and I much prefer the app on my phone . With the garmin , I feel my health improving . While the Apple Watch is just a durable Apple phone on my wrist .
@@jordanlawson7054haha I’m not cool enough to pull that off . I usually swap every so often . I’ll try the new beta on the ultra as they are released , switch back , etc
Apple and Tesla Fanboy, but using Garmin Instinct 2X Solar for much more longer battery time, and changed to Anker Headphones away from Apple as well. Last but not least the Garmin App and daily run recommendations are perfect. Also my wife moved to the Venue 3 away from AW, and has now 14 days of battery. Well done, Cheers.
I’ve been saying this to anyone that would listen for a while ! People that know, like serious athletes for example , just go with a Garmin. They are not using an Apple Watch or a ma Samsung watch, or any other variants of android watches out there. They need devices they can rely on every single time for their events and their training. Great video.
I have had Apple Watches For years and there is no getting around the terrible battery life. I also find the Apple Watches too complicated. It does too much but nothing it does is great. I currently use a Fenix 6Pro and I absolutely love it.
Went back to Apple Watch from my Garmin Fenix 6, and I run 40-50 miles a week easily using my AW. I just love seamlessly using my AirPods, Spotify, Apple Pay, calls, iMessage etc…..just don’t get that with my Garmin! Both great products though 👏🏼👏🏼
I have the Epix Pro 51mm titanium/sapphire… I can warmly recommend it to anyone who`s ready to pay that premium. That watch is the reason i started moving and working out. It works really really well. But remember, it`s a sportswatch, not really a smartwatch
8:46 You’re right on the money here Mark. I switched to Apple ecosystem 3 years ago. First mac, then ipad, iphone and airpods. The last thing I switched was Garmin to apple watch. And this was the biggest disappointment. Zero benefits. Thank you for this video, I am making a switch back. I used to have Fenix, but now I am definitely buying Epix pro.
I have the ultra and Garmin fenix 3 HR. I switched to ultra for a few months and now I have the garmin back on. Something about the fit and reliability. Oh and yes the battery life! No more “charge before bed!”
I am currently wearing an Apple Watch Ultra on one arm and a garmin forerunner 265 on the other arm and have been for about 2 months. It looks absurd, but the additional fitness information I get from the garmin is worth it to me (for now), but the smart watch features of the ultra within my apple ecosystem make it my primary wearable. I’ll probably go down to just wearing the garmin for sleeping and working out.
I have a AWU 2, and Garmin 965. Workout with garmin cause all info now stores in apple health. I also sleep with garmin cause that syncs as well. But I wear my awu 2 most of the day.
I had the AWU2 and sent it back to buy an Epix Pro. I love it, a much more consistent and conclusive approach than AWU, almost as good as my old fenix 6 😊
Garmin makes you a better person. AWU2 just makes you a more techy person. There is no comparison between both watches. I have a AWU2 and Fenix 7S SS. Currently, I can easily live without AWU2, but I miss the Fenix all the time I'm not wearing it.
Great video, but me personally, I love my Apple Watch Ultra 2. I basically just wanted a fitness GPS watch that is indestructible and that I don’t have to worry about upgrading for a while. Garmin watches are great also, but I just prefer the Apple Watch Ultra. Great video by the way, I’m subscribing to it right now.
Mark, good video and well balanced. I think you should use what works for you! I use the U2 and for me it works just fine. At nearly 1AM (Texas time) I have 61% battery life and started with about 81% this morning. At 73, that’s more than good enough for me. Being that, like you, I’m in Apple’s ecosystem, the U2 is more than adequate for me. I traded in the U1, got $411 for it and got the U2 for the new SiP9, 64GB of RAM storage, & the even brighter screen. So, far I’m very pleased with the U2 and don’t care how it stacks up to the Garmin. I’ve no doubt it is better in many ways. Get and use what works for you, I’ll do the same. I’m keeping the U2 regardless of what Apple does going forward. When the time comes, I’ll replace the battery. The U2 will work just as well as anything that comes after and should the U3(etc.) do more, that’s nice. I’ve found the watch that works for me and I’ll stick with it.
Bought an epix gen 2 sapphire edition during black Friday and it is amazing. 10 days of battery with tracking for golf and mtbing. The ability to map and gps track mtb rides alone dominates AW
Got both on sale but have Ultra 2 and Series 9. I sleep in my 9 to get sleep data and when I wake up I put on my ultra 2. All data just transfers over automatically. I never have a dead battery and got both of them for the cost of the Epix 2 pro. Plus next year I can keep my nine without upgrading for sleep tracking and I’ll probably get over $400-$459 for a trade in for the Apple Ultra 3 and don’t have to sell my Garmin on EBay. Plus I get I Apple Care so I never have to worry about it breaking or not working since it is always covered under warranty. Love Apple because I can set personalized timers, reminders, alarms, standing minutes, walking heart rate average, better sleep tracking which is almost more important if not more than exercise (sleep is very important), AirPod and CarPlay functionality, siren, sos calling, no need to take a phone in a run or to the store if I forget it, I never have a dead battery, the list goes on…….
And still the biggest thing stopping many of us staying with Garmin.... cellular connectivity. A watch you can take anywhere and do anything but can't leave your phone behind with when using it for any lengthy activity. Having the ablitiy to call or message is a must when heading away from home woth possiblitly of getting lost or injured
I have a flip belt and don’t even notice my phone in there. Plus using AirPod pros I can talk to Siri so I don’t need to try to navigate a small watch screen (I’m 50 it’s hard to see). Found I only used my aw as a dress watch because I have a nice band. Ordered an Epix pro, delivery is today - big upgrade from my forerunner 735 - and best of both worlds. I can dress it up, has fancy faces, and still gives me my Garmin usefulness.
Good review. I picked the MIP display over the amoled. I like amoled on a phone, but not a watch. Looks too much like wearing a phone on your wrist. Plus, MIP is great outside and it doesn’t blind you inside. But that’s just a personal preference. Mip display does have super battery life. So that’s a super plus
Can you text on the Garmin or is it just presets? I’m coming from a Fenix 5X Sapphire to Ultra 2. So far it’s been nice. My Fenix is a tank, but it’s nice to have some things to help out with normal everyday tasks like texts, calls, walkie-talkie, and even start my truck on cold mornings lol.
Had a Garmin a number of years ago and loved it. I only switched to Apple because I won the watch in a draw and then kept that watch for 5 years before just now purchasing a Fenix 7X. I really missed the battery life of the Garmin, and I ride motorcycles on long camping trips and hated the high maintenance battery needs of the Apple. This year I am back in the gym and focusing on my health. The Garmin was a no brainer for me. Ride on!
Great points! Most people seem to ignore Apples diabolical battery life.Im sporting the 51mm Garmin Epix pro saphire , after a Apple watch and Samsung Watch 4 Classic. The Apple and the Samsung were basicly not viable for me, it just seemed everytime i wanted to have a workout, or go for a ride or run the damn watch would need charging, to be honest the Apple watches and Samsung are only really viable for people who work in offices, as they can just constantly keep popping them on charge. The Garmin Epix can do a weekend camping trip with navigating and tracking and starting with 30 percent battery life! You can easliy get 2 weeks of battery life, thats with notifications on, alarms, Garmin Pay and spotify! I havent even touched on the metrics yet! The information this watch provides is staggering, the connect App is absolutely superb. For Health and fitness the Garmin is in a different league. My only complaint of the Epix is the lack of a speaker, as the inbuilt beeper is so faint you barely hear it - but you soon forget as everything else is so good.
I always appreciate your approach and explanation for your videos. I totally get the battery life issue with the Apple Watch Utra. But, its ease of use, ecosystem compatibility being so seamless, and the fact I've yet to find an app that doesn't work with it, I really don't have any trouble with mine. At most I'll do 4 or 5 night hikes, and the Apple Watch definitely requires a charge at the midpoint of that...but, I don't find it too bothersome to connect to my battery pack overnight (which I need for my phone anyway) enough of an issue to grab a dedicated sports watch. I quite like Apple's health tracking info, all of which I'd lose or need to change over to Garmin. For me, that's the final deal breaker. Am I bias, very likely as I've been doing what I've been doing for awhile...battery alone isn't going to move me away. I know that's just me. I wouldn't fault anyone for feeling differently.
I totally get you but for me is exactly the battery that moves me away from the awu. I really wanted to like it and i do but i think l'll go back o using a Garmin watch just because i don't want to worry about another device to charge.
Will be honest with you I'm a Polar person. I invested in the Polar V3 after years of apple watches and finally the 1st gen ultra. I've always been an Apple fanboy, but recently took fitness more seriously. I looked at Garmin, Polar and Suunto. Polar V3 won for me. It's just miles ahead for fitness. Smart watch it ain't, but then it highlighted how much of a smart watch the ultra is. I mean you just can't do triathlon with an ultra. Just simply doesn't have the battery. And I actually have come to really appreciate how basic notifications on the Polar V3 are. It's like having just enough info with minimal distractions if you enable them. And the Polar flow app integrates into Apple health. You get guided training and very in-depth insights as well as superior sleep metrics. End of the day the day the watch is stylish, works really well and is packed with features just like Garmin. And the data collected has value and is used to guide you in a meaningful way. With Apple things like sleep metrics don't really mean much. Just tells you that you didn't sleep well, where as with Suunto, Garmin, Polar give you very useful insights. It could be argued that both are just different, but I don't think anyone serious or wants to get serious about health would choose any Apple watch. Without anything else limiting the ultra, it's the battery that is the biggest defining factor as why it's probably not the best choice. Great Video.
I have 16 days on my Garmin and note not fully charged. Ditched my Apple Ultra. Epix gave me data fields in my running and swimming. The Apple functionality and interface was a little annoying for me. Great review and points made thanks for this video.
Garmin person here. Unpopular opinion but I love the MIP display versus the AMOLED. I know MIP is an endangered species, but outdoors, in the sun, especially with polarized shades, MIP is simply better. Indoors, AMOLED wins, hands down, but I do like how MIP just looks, at first glance, like a real physical watchface. Something not mentioned in this video is how flawlessly the Garmin ecosystem works within Android. I can't speak to the iPhone, but with my various Android devices, I've never once had an issue.
MIP displays are great especially for always on displays. I currently have a Fenix 6S Pro and its display is great an even visible on a glance. But the Fenix 7 Pro I tried last week had a lot more reflections. Maybe it is the touch and solar layer on top. But I couldn't get used to it. Maybe it is a bad sample of the Fenix 7 Pro. Garmin has always had a great variation of how good their displays are even within the same device... :/
I am sporting a Garmin as well along with the new Apple Ultra 2 I don't wear them at the same time during my daily activities but I did experimented with them once together in one of my runs and after that experiment I was wearing more of the Garmin and seems to grab and wear it every time I go out for a run, the Apple watch is more of an watch that I will wear in the office coz it looks good and gets more attention 😁, The Garmins Battery is just amazing even in the older versions than what you have there, thanks for sharing your incites
I am both an Apple person and a Garmin person. I have multiple devices from both companies. But I would never consider an Apple Watch for many of the reasons you mentioned. I do have a Garmin Fenix 5X Plus and am awaiting the Fenix 8. When they become available your channel will be the first I will look to for a review.
I am currently in the conundrum of choosing between these two watches. I own both but find the Garmin helping to motivate me day to day with tracking my runs. The feedback it offers me is valuable. Not to mention, I can switch between Android and Apple very easily and let's face it the flashlight is epic. However, the Apple watch Ultra does a fantastic job as well. I can get some feedback but have to use other apps. It is not as valuable as what I get on the Garmin but it's usable. Also being able to use it with cellular and just the overall smart features is a game changer. At the moment the scales are tipped towards the Garmin but I find myself going back and forth. Eventually I will sell one of them though.
I love my original Garmin Instinct. I used to have an apple watch but sold it. I don't need another iphone on my wrist. And the garmin's battery is ridiculous. A week later after I charged it, it went down 1 bar out of 5. And the fact that I can use it on it's own without needing a phone for such things as hiking, etc. is perfect. Not to mention it's the most comfortable watch I've ever worn.
I switched from the Garmin 7 tactix to the Apple Watch Ultra. Only think I like is the sim. Able to leave me phone at home and get calls and texts and alerts. I think overall the Garmin is better. I loved the torch and the fact you can disable the touch screen and just use the buttons.
I did the experiment of having two watches: Ultra1 and Fenix 7 Pro. Conclusion the Garmin UI and software sets me back in time... 1990s lol they really need to update their UI and software. I prefer a smartwatch - enjoy the fluidity of iPhone and Apple watch applications. Yes battery on AW is nothing compared to Garmin but fast charging is great on Ultra.
AWU2 for me. The health insights take precedence over any fitness features. I like that my music can be on my wrist, and the integration to the Apple ecosystem. There is also the richness of apps that integrate into the watch from my phone. Taking calls. Using my watch as a remote for my iPhone camera. Replying to text messages. Boarding passes. Train tickets. Cycling / walking navigation. Come to think of it, the AWU is a really cool watch. 😎 (I had a Garmin before getting an Apple Watch, and for my usage, Apple is way ahead in terms of my usage requirements)
There were two things that I really like about my Garmin watch(es): physical buttons, and battery life (obviously). I had a Fenix 3 HR and now a Fenix 6X Pro Solar and I really like that the buttons are the same: they’re in the same locations and they have same functions as before. Heavy reliance on a touchscreen which presents information in a different manner and location from screen to screen and app to app is just a non-starter for me. And then there is the battery life. When Apple was making the (just a) watch, I expected it would have a poor battery, but when they came out with the Ultra - and called it a sport watch - I really expected there would be a better battery life. I also agree with “watch faces should be round.”
I am exactly the type of person you mention. For computing and home, I am deep into the Apple ecosystem (iPhones, iPads, iMac, MacBook Air, Apple TV, HomePods etc). But, for health and fitness I am deep into the Garmin ecosystem. (Forerunner watch, Edge bike computer, scales etc). I have been using Garmin products since 2011 and, like the Apple ecosystem, their products work so well together. I have so much ‘health history’ recorded on the Garmin Connect app that I am loathed to change. As a side note, the data links between Garmin Connect and Apple Health have been improving recently. Indeed, I note that my weight measurements from the Garmin scales show to one decimal point in Garmin Connect but it shows to two decimal points on Apple Health.
No, as an ultra runner I dropped the Garmin Fenix Pro. It was to heavy for me when running for 12 hours. I also did not like the interface; the fatigue notification was great but ultimately I need a watch with a clear display that is not to heavy and can last for the distance.
I was apple for a few generations then a real watch person. Switched to garmin last year and haven’t looked back! I really appreciate a month long battery life and it has definitely turned me into a better runner. It’s the perfect balance of utility for me. I didn’t like having notifications and communication features on my Apple Watch. For those that do rely on watch calling/texting the garmin experience is pretty trash.
One is a fitness watch that has some smartwatch functionality. The other is a smartwatch with some fitness features. Both have come a long way! I settled on the Apple Watch - the most recent fitness software has had some nice features finally added that the garmin has.
If you‘re sportive in real life: Garmin. Battery stamina and for me most important the ability to choose and place the relevant data as you like & need. Also nice: the huge amount of free & adjustable watchfaces.
Apple Watch 7 user here, for me it’s the phone free running with Apple Music on board, and phone free Apple Pay so I can pop in a shop on the way back from a run for a snack/drink, not sure how well Garmin pay is supported here in the UK with the banks/shops, but I am always Garmin curious though 😁
I’ve tried swapping this year and just couldn’t do it! I’ve decided for 2024 that I’ll be sticking to being an apple Fan Boy. Great content as usual though Mark
Epix convert myself. The ultra is going on eBay on Friday. Something you mentioned but didn’t really detail… health. It has a metric ton of data available…all over the place though. None of it is curated in the same way that Garmin does. Garmin still has a lot of the same software issues it had years ago, and Bluetooth issues, and “App Store”, and sync issues, and lack of other integrations, etc. It’s just better though once you learn how to live in Garmin world.
I forgot to mention below, fall detection always on, it checks for Afib in the background as Garmin you have to check it when you feel symptoms, car crash detection, texting by voice or calling on the watch, the new one hand use is a dream which I didn’t think was a big deal but now answering the phone when my other hand has something in it is very useful.
Apple advocate for over twenty years! Wear an epix pro. Wish you were able to toggle off Text, Phone calls , all the notifications etc.... to increase battery life on the apple Pro. Plus a round face. 99% of the time I have my iPhone with me so I dint need the redundancy . I want to be able to switch quickly to workout mode see Time /Heart rate/Steps in bold letters. When the Apple Watch can do that I'll buy it in a second. I understand Im 63 and cant see those small texts lol. But still in better shape than most 4o year olds.
Former Apple Watch guy (AW3) and very much ensconced in the Apple Ecosystem (tm) with a MBP, iPad Pro, iPhone, HomePod Mini... hell, I'm even still using one of the AirPort Extreme Base Stations with a 2 TB hard drive (in limited capacity, of course). I switched to Garmin when the Fenix 6 Pro came out. I now have a Fenix 7 Pro and I honestly will never go back to Apple Watch. I was tempted with the AWU and held out hope that the AWU2 would be a big improvement but when it wasn't... I decided to never go back. If you're into anything fitness related, even just casually, you'll love the Garmin ecosystem. And if you decide to get more into fitness, you'll find that their ecosystem scales with you just as easily as Apple's does.
I was an Apple Watch fan (Apple Watch Ultra I) until I got a Garmin bike for my touring bike. This was after several disappointments where the Apple Watch didn't log my time on the bike correctly. The Garmin 1130 edge bike computer makes all that recording seamless. I can't get the 1130 to talk to the Apple Watch nor can I easily transfer all of my data into the Apple Health app. After this, I may go Garmin Watch. Apple needs to realize that making people stay in the ecosystem for *everything* can push people away as well as keeping them in. I will be watching for your Garmin videos. 🙂
I am also all-in on the Apple ecosystem, and just recently got an Ultra 2. However, as a long-time army guy, my Garmin Fenix would be the one I'd risk my life with. Case in point, while I think the Ultra is great, I've spent two days trying to make it more Garmin-like (which isn't a good sign for Apple Design) and still charge it nightly (just in case). The big divide I've noticed is that my Garmin is a GPS first and a watch second, and it's the reverse for the Apple. Also, battery life could always be better. When the Ultra can go a week on a charge and has a dedicated GPS app then it might be more of a competitor to Garmin. But for true iPhone interoperability, obviously you only have one choice here. Also agree the round face is superior; Samsung Galaxy watch as well
If my AWU got half the battery life my Epix pro had I'd wear it more. I really like my AWU, its a really useful smart watch. My Epix pro though is a decent smart phone, and it tracks all my backpacking and Bike riding, and I almost never even think about battery. If I had to pick only one, it would be the Garmin Epix pro for sure.
Im wearing Apple Watch since 2017 and after upgrading to AWU, I recently bought a fenix 7X. I really love it especially because I’m doing a lot of sports. What I’m missing from my AWU is how the data run smoothly in Apple Health App and obviously all the Apple eco system. So I will keep using both depending on what I’m doing (work or sports)
love my forerunner 965, which is also oled display so that mean i still have a beautifull bright display but in the gym it track my weight lifting, my runs, swim, hike and etc. and when traveling I dont need my cell phone data to find great hike or to listen to music because they are already on my watch. I just put my earphone and I enjoy life.
I had an AW3 about 8 years ago, but i was a Garmin guy before and after. I have a Garmin Fenix 7X currently. I really like real buttons and the flashlight. I love the weight lifting tracking - it counts repititions and guesstimates what the exercises are, you can input how much weight you used. After your workout, you can correct the exercise. Then you can view the muscle groups. I do wish they'd do something with this info. I would like to see percentage of muscle groups so you could craft design your own workouts based on what needs work. Also I'd like to be able to create my own exercises. Workouts and Pacepro with Bluetooth headphones is were the Garmin really shines. It's like having a coach with music telling you when your in and out of pace, heart rate, or power. Also, Workouts and Pacepro annouses what you did on the last segment and whats next. My last feater is being to copy a exercise and customise the autolapse, alerts with datascreens for just that excercise. I like to setup a "Long Run" excercise which has 10 minute alerts for hydration reminders along with my favorite data screens just for my long run.
I use a Mac Studio, MacBook Pro, iMac 27, iPhone, Beats Fit Pro, and iPod nano. I bought a Fenix 7 Pro SS a month ago and I love it. I was coming from a Fenix 5 Plus and a Forerunner 630 before that and a Forerunner 610 before that. I love the Apple ecosystem; but I was in the Garmin ecosystem a long time ago before Apple had a watch and it's hard to give up all of my data in Garmin Connect. And the battery life. And the buttons for running when I have gloves on or my hands are way better.
Great video, perfectly on point! Love it ❤ I got the 51 mm version and get over 10 days of battery life with always on display. I’m an 🍎 fan boy too, but their ⌚️ is nowhere near where it should be…
Same I had a Fenix 6 and Apple watch 7 for ages... Never missed the apple watch when I bought a pixel, I hated having to use third party apps and ending up with my data all over, when I didn't wear my fenix I really missed it. In short Garmin freed me from the Apple ecosystem... Though I just got a new ipad. 😅
Good video and nice perspective - I appreciate your candour. The reality is I have always wanted to love the Apple watch, I have an iphone, an ipad pro 12.9, a m1 mbp 14 and, having spent my formative years on PCs all the way back as far as dos 5.1 and having spent time messing about config.sys files and autoexec.bat files in the early years, I feel fairly safe in saying that I could probably be considered as one of the many older OG 'A' typical tech-loving guys. But... I have owned Fenix 3 and now sport a Fenix 5x 51mm, and though I love spending time in a coffee shop on my mac and, on occasions, am happy to enjoy some crushed avocado on soda bread, I do not class myself as a coffee shop dwelling avocado munching tech fiend sporting a man bag with a millennium outlook to life living in a social media connected world. As such, as cool as many of the features seem on the Apple watch, I couldn't really bring myself to consider jumping in on one until the ultra came along. The hype was great, the idea of having a suitably robust apple watch that I could go walking in the mountains or diving to 40m, seemed really cool (though I haven't done that for many years). But... and it's a big but... Having a watch that only lasts a couple of days battery wise, while giving me basic mapping with what appears (since I have never owned one, so can't say for sure), the requirement to download third-party apps to get really good fitness tracking capabilities feels like a sub-par effort for anything trying to class itself as a true sports/robust watch, and for the sake of a bunch of notifications, which will only disturb me from my workflow (who really wants interruptions all day accept the young who have an insatiable appetite for being connected), the apple watch is well, just a bit techy and a bit shiny, but in my mind, just a bit of a gimmick. Now, I am a slightly overweight, middle-aged guy, who is admittedly living by the mantra of 'the older I get, the better I was' regaling of stories of my ex-military days, but for all intents and purposes, I still think a watch should be functional. No doubt the apple watch standard is that, but in terms of the marketing hype and supposed change of target market that the ultra implies, I can only assume it is simply aspirational marketing to hit a sweet nerve for those who love the idea of travelling through the Andes and living life on the edge, but in reality are more likely conduct the school run in their 4x4 and take a summer walk up Snowdon wearing a pair shorts while walking the dog and relying on mountain rescue to come and save them like the AA when their flip flops (with slightly more rugged tread) let them down. Have I been a little bit sarcastic in this message, probably. But hopefully, I have also put myself down sufficiently to rebuttal any criticism in an effort to be fair and share the love with everyone while also highlighting where the Apple Ultra is targeted, which it seems, is certainly not me. And just in case you were bored enough to get to the end of this diatribe... short of something new, it will probably be the Garmin Epix 2 next for me - which is probably the best of both worlds, but in a more meaningful (and useful) way
Funny, I switched to the AWU because the Fenix 7 annoyed me. Whenever I needed the navigation it was slow as hell and Spotify connectivity was also bad. The battery and sturdiness of the watch are great, but the OS on the Garmin is just slow and buggy. Maybe the experience is better on Android, because on iPhone I've always had to connect the watch and phone manually. My conclusion is, that if you want a super sportswatch, that probably won't ever break take the Garmin. For the average person or someone who takes sports a bit more seriously, or even if you want a great smart watch the AWU is great.
Completely agree with your points, I have recently switched back to Apple the U2, I had been getting frustrated with the buggy UI and bad UX but the latest update to Connect gave me the push I needed to leave. If only Connect still looked like it does in this video!
Had an Ultra and gave it to my son after I got the Garmin 965, battery life and amoled are just amazing. For me it's about going away for the weekend or week and not bringing another charger.
very good video and finally a big apple fan who is not biased.. :) i am like you having macs and ipads and i love em but i will never buy a apple watch for 1 reason: Battery life. for so much money the battery is a joke..i bought the Garmin epix 2 pro and i love it :)
I may of foolishly bought at ultra 2 and I love it……However, only used it a few times in open water and it’s been piss poor at tracking open water swimming (again a big marketing ploy) now I’m lead to believe they all suffer tracking GPS using breaststroke, but mine funny enough does, but won’t track freestyle!! So maybe more testing. As for fancying trying Gamin I’m happy with Apple so far, battery life hasn’t been an issue for the last 10 years? As long as I’ve charged it it’s followed me hikes and swims and runs and walks and workouts so I’m personally very happy
I have both, an Ultra 2 and a Fenix 7 sapphire solar. I simply can't choose one of them. But, anyway: you can't decide between mum and dad, can't you? 😀
Definitely Team Garmin. I had Garmin 6X previously and I was considering upgrade to Epix Pro or switch to Apple Watch. Thank God I decided for Epix Pro and I loved them so much. Amoled display definitely worth it over the transreflective of 6X.
I have a MacBook an iPad, and an iPhone. I am very happy with my Fenix 7 sapphire solar. It is a huge upgrade from my Fenix 5. I am happy to stay with my Garmin because it’s tough
I've had the Apple Watch 3 for a while now, it's getting quite slow. Looking to switch to a Garmin for the battery life, running and hiking features. Great review!
I got the ultra 2 and although it's a welcome improvement from the series 7 (battery). I'm thinking in getting the Venu 3 or eoix gen 2. I dont want smart features but only fitness and having one of those with an awesome battery, round watch seems compelling. Plus one less thing t9 be locked on Apple ecosystem
I dumped the AWU2 (that I bought 6 Weeks ago) for a Garmin Tactix Delta that I received for a steep discount. AND I'M loving the Garmin so much more than any Apple Watch that I've previously owned.
I've been an Apple Watch User since it first came out, then I upgraded to the Series 4, then years later I got the Ultra. Same as you, Apple married, to the Macbook Pro, Ipad, Iphone, etc. I do use my PC with windows but not as much as the Apple products. There was a time I used a Blackberry and an Android phone but it wasn't very stable, too glitchy so I started to switch to Apple. I work a lot and being away from the charger is something I need especially with the watch. Recently I've begun to look at what Garmin had to offer. I waited till Apple released the Series 10 and possibly a new Ultra 3 but no ground breaking changes so I'm leaning more toward Garmin again. Enduro 3 or Epix Pro Gen 2. The Enduro 3 has stupid long battery times with solar charging but the screen isn't as sharp as the AMOLED versions like the Epix Pro Gen 2. On another YT video they claimed with certain settings toggled on/off they were getting almost 30 days on his Epix Pro Gen 2. Even if it was a week to 10 days I'd be happy. I don't need the speaker option that the Fenix 8 offers and I'm not a diver. I'm at about 2 days on the Ultra, no text alerts, no email alerts, calendar alerts and maybe a few phone call alerts but no talking,....barely 2 days, thats with a quick top off while showering. That sucks in my book especially with most of the alerts and features disabled. Apple needs to do better if they want to stay in the game
In November I switched from AWU1 to a Garmin D2 Mach 1 Pro (Epix Pro with aviation functions). I haven’t looked back, don’t miss the Apple ecosystem on the watch at all. I have the MacBook, iPad, AirPods and iPhone… just like you mentioned. But the watch works better for me and for my needs than the Apple Watch. The health and fitness functions/metrics, battery life and the look, feel and the way it fits into my life.. is better for me than the Apple Watch. Yes the Apple Watch is cool, but frankly the Garmin watch has it beat.
Good video.I started with Garmin owning a Forerunner 245, but I went through 4 replacements as the HRM would not turn off even when charging. Out of frustration I went to the Apple Watch and it was fine. I came back to Garmin and I had a Fenix 6 Pro for years and really liked it. I sold the Fenix 6 Pro 47mm and bought an Ultra 2 for 2 main reasons- I was beginning to find it hard to see the data fields (HR, Weather, steps, etc) encircling my favourite watch face, and the Garmin would not consistently get notifications from my daughter's diabetes Libre sensor. I miss being able to wear the watch while sleeping to get that extra bit of health data, and I feel I look less of an endurance athlete, but the consistency of the notifications, the high end build materials, and the easier readability calm my worries. If Apple ever came out with a round watch face (pipe dream I am sure) I would be all over it. Overall, the Ultra 2 covers all I need, perhaps not all I want/think I need.
Im watching this video with my Apple Watch on the left arm, and my FR965 on the right. I did 3 Ironman races with Garmin (FR945, FR955), a lot of half marathons and triathlons… Last year I bought the AW Ultra and bye bye Garmin. I mean, I tried to go back buying the FR965, but everything is better on the AWU except for the battery. But using Audible, Stryd, and many more apps on the AW is wayyyy better than just having Spotify on the Garmin. Apple Pay with all my credit cards, vs just one card on Garmin Pay, all the connections and features on the AW are just better on daily usage, and now with the screen mirroring to the iPhone when you are cycling, and connected to the power meters, turbo trainers and cadence devices… haven’t being able to go back to Garmin. Ps: Thank you for all of your videos and insights. Cheers from Colombia! 🎉🎉
Totally agree. There are hundreds of little things the AW does that are cool. And each one individually isn’t really a big deal, but added up over time and getting used to it creates an almost impossible barrier to go back to a third party watch. That said, I hate the look of it, even the Ultra just looks childish compared to a Garmin, especially for a man. Benefits of a Garmin for me: Looks great Support is incredible Battery life Sports focused Things like golf, body battery, etc all come free and I have to pay for it on Apple through apps like Athlytic, 18 Birdies/The Grint, etc Having a dedicated alarm that I can use independent of my Phone alarm is great. Garmin negatives: Manual syncing Some things don’t sync to Apple health or are just missing Too much emphasis on endurance sports Pricing on top end models is insane Syncing Spotify is a pain! Navigating the menus is a pain Connectivity to third party apps is very limited AW actually keeps me from grabbing my phone as often, which I think is a huge plus of the AW
A year ago I started using an Apple Watch Series 7 that wife was gifted but ended up never using, and just recently found out about Garmin. I agree that the ecosystem appeal is smaller for smartwatches, specially if you don't get much value out of the "lifestyle" features. As for myself, 90% of my time is either in the office, or in home office, so I don't need to answer calls or get notifications on my wrist if I'm looking at screen all the time. Even my iPhone13 mini battery lasts usually a day and a half. So for me the big selling point for a smartwatch is really the health and sports features. Apple understands this, but they're just newcomers in the sports market. Garmin built their whole tech around sports. Even their lifestyle models seem to have more accurate metrics than an AWU, because of the sensors. If I were to buy a newer model, I would certainly go for a Garmin.
I'm a long term Mac and iPhone user. I had switched to Garmin forerunner 955 from Apple Watch series 4. Apple Watch battery is the weakness point. Cycling is my main sport to do often. Apple Watch battery cannot last for a simple long ride straightly from fully charged. Garmin gives many metric to help improving my fitness.
I’m rocking the fr 965 and I love it. The only thing I miss about my apple watch is being able to skip songs on spotify will I’m doing choirs using my mac to play music.
I have both and the biggest failure in the AWU is mapping. For trail running and hiking especially in new places give me the Garmin every time but for every day I’m AWU
Nice video thanks! I’m also quite deep into the Apple ecosystem (iPhone, iPad Pro, Mac mini Pro, AirPods Pro, HomePod, Apple TV, AirTag) but still had a nearly 6 Year old Garmin Vivoactive 3. I wanted to replace that Watch and read a lot of reviews and watched many TH-cam videos. For me there were too few benefits in favour of the Apple Watch, so I bought the Fenix 7S Pro in September this year. I absolutely love it. And you can connect your AirPods Pro with it. I use it for listening to Spotify (one of the few other companies I prefer over the Apple equivalent)
One thing that always surprises me when watching the AWU and Garmin comparison videos is that no ever mentions the sound quality. I have owned a Garmin Tactix Delta (essentially a Fenix 6) and currently have a AWU 2. When at the gym or out for a run I leave my phone at home or in the car to avoid distractions and listen to music directly from my watch. I loved the Garmin but the sound quality via Bluetooth is appalling. The sound quality from the AWU is far superior and not too far off the iPhone. Wont matter to everyone but if it’s your sole music source in the gym or out for a run it matters.
I’m a fan of both like you are,but I’m leaning a bit towards the garmin, I like the look for one ,two,I never had a garmin but planning to get one,question,are the face and thickness bigger than the Apple Watch,I prefer thick rugged looking watches.
The AWU is a smart phone on my wrist. I wear it all day every day. My Garmin Forerunner 965 goes on the other wrist. It gives me the best interpretation of my training data. I love them both. If I am out on a long bike ride and have an accident w/o my iPhone, the 965 will not call 911.
Hi Mark, I love Apple and use an Apple Watch Ultra 2. I'm currently considering buying a Garmin Epix or Garmin Marq Commander. Do you have experience with the Garmin Marq Commander? I saw you at the iPad launch. Thank you for Feedback. Miri
I respect your wish to experiment. I am Garmin Fênix user for about 7 years now, prior to that I used Garmin vivoactive.. This was interesting video for me, perspective wise. I would look like that if I was to try Apple watch... But for me sport and fitness features comes in the first place, that's why I use sport watches. One thing I need to emphasize: I have used iPhones in the past and never liked the feel of using them. It was like I'm the guest on a my device. I don't have freedom to use or abuse it however I want. There is always that lack of choice, of customization and feeling of being cornered by the people who have clear idea how they want me to use my device.
I know how big Apple fan boy you are and below is my perspective (from another Sheeple). Great video Mark. One of the best AW and Garmin comparison video if I could say that. I have AW (not ultra ) and Garmin Forerunner 255(Not Epix). So I am aware of pros/cons of both but somehow get dragged back to AW. Below are my views for all 5 points you mentioned. All good here. These are for healthy discussion and not upset Garmin lovers/or you, mate :) 1. List of activities/exercises: All I do is jog (not a quick runner and I follow slow AF running community on FB), walk, occasionally swim and play badminton with my son so all the bells & whistles Garmin comes with, doesn’t bother me. 2. Battery life : As I am not ultra runner or the one who go on hiking in Snowdania, Lake District (as you mentions in the beginning of the video) and charge it overnight, battery life doesn’t bother me. I sleep wearing my Garmin for sleep tracking ;) ;) 3. Round Watch face: Wouldn’t be worried. I like both square and round. Will not contest this point :) 4. Price: Epix Gen 2/Pro or expensive than AW Ultra here in India. Both are close 1000£ (base model Epix) so yeah wouldn’t contest on this point. 5. Apple ecosystem: My favourite Apple gadget in the ecosystem close to iPad Pro M1. Then comes iPhone, AirPods, Mac etc. Thing I used most on AW when I was in UK was Apple Pay. I had Forerunner 235 & Forerunner 55 which I used in tandem with AW just to show off but Apple Pay was life saver when got message from wife to grab pint of milk from ASDA, Morrisons or local Tachbrook store in LSpa. Or if I fancied a quick latte at Costa by the Morrisons after finishing my run. I never carried my phone on me as it was heavy . Any emergency calls or quick pay was ace on my cellular version of AW. Conclusion: Heart says Apple Watch and mine says Garmin. If they introduce cellular connectivity seamlessly as AW did so that I can leave my phone behind then I am switching to Garmin.
I bought an AWU, as a diving computer. After one year I am selling it, to buy a Garmin MK3i. Surprisingly nobody wants to buy the awu. At the end I believe it is a masterpiece of marketing. A very nice looking smartwatch, and nothing else.
Are you Team Garmin or Team Apple Watch? And why?
Team Garmin because they work on both Android and iOS. However, the functionality of your Garmin watch in terms of smart features is much better on Android than on iOS
Team Garmin for battery life and sports
Both, I simply use both Watches. xD
I love Fitness+ on the Apple watch when it comes to workouts and all that stuf, you can do there.
But when I am outside stuff, like riding my Bike for more then 1 or 2 Days, or other advenced sport Activitis. I am happy to have the Garmin with all it's advenced Sport features.
Garmin return apple watch shocking battery life
I own an Apple Watch 8 and a Epix Gen 2. They are both great watches.
Apple fanboy here, with a Garmin watch. Had an Apple Watch then switched to Garmin 7 years ago. Love my iPhone and my Garmin.
I have a slightly different perspective as I was a long term Garmin user, then tried to switch to AWU because I really love Apple ecosystem but then ultimately went back to Garmin. And the main reason was that I struggled to figure out why should I use AWU. I found myself more often than not just reaching for my phone or talking to Siri because it was just more convenient and faster. Meanwhile, I was kind of surprised how bad AWU actually is for anything that's not running, diving or gym fitness. I've ended up deciding that Garmin gives me just enough smartwatch functionality while also having many unique aspects on its own. It feels like it's another tool that complements my other devices rather than just being an (very limited) iPhone on my wrist.
Spot on m8!
I love my original Garmin Instinct. I used to have an apple watch but sold it. I don't need another iphone on my wrist. And the garmin's battery is ridiculous. A week later after I charged it, it went down 1 bar out of 5. And the fact that I can use it on it's own without needing a phone for such things as hiking, etc. is perfect. Not to mention it's the most comfortable watch I've ever worn.
Agree! I did exactly the same but with samsung watch 6. I started wondering what to do with the samsung watch. Then i went back to garmin wich is really great.
odd one here... Droid mainly [until i needed a small cell watch standalone] now I have my Garmin Dive computer Mk2 + Mk3i + Ultra2 watch ....so need to run deco tools like multi deco.. [spite against droid is strong now] Linux an dUnix workstation for at home or laptop deco runtimes... looking into a tablet or a iphone for app use... [] I only need the garmins for Dive data, but I only need the ultra2 for bottom timer and cell phone [mainly cell hone] never can have enough backup on your dive gear. but it comes down to hardware for my dive planning and dive logs at home and on the go... so until I can have a linux cell phone with a linux watch and my linux desktop. I will need a mobile solution for cell phone and a place to run my subsurface sw garmin tools plus multideco ( these will not run on the watch, but the watch will go in the water ) now a tablet and phone might also be in the works for the software... and other tiems... [] I guarantee they will not be google based [] -- apple does have a system that works.. it may be that it is based using BSD and has had 15 years to get the stupid removed.
@@stromqvistarn - Which
I've been using AWU for a year, just got the Epix gen 2 pro last week, and I'm in love. I like my AWU but this epix is the watch Ive always wanted. The design is much better, and the amount of info you get is silly. For back country use there is no comparison.
I have the Apple Ultra 2 because I don’t like carrying my phone and it’s the first Apple Watch I’m not afraid of breaking. The Ultra 2 is the best smart watch out there.
I have my Garmin Fenix 6X Sapphire for hiking and all other physical activity. I’m currently tracking my sleep with the Ultra 2 but I’m finding the Garmin is more accurate tracking sleep also. Garmin makes the best sports watches out there.
Great video! Garmin all the way. Ive used Samsung, Fitbit and Apple. They are good watches in their own ways. But Garmin is just a beast of a watch. I own the 51mm Epix Pro. Love this watch.
A lifelong Apple user who is just selling my Ultra having got the Epix pro. Suits my needs for all the reasons you mention. Having retired last year. I don’t need a smart watch, but a durable fitness watch that is geared to my cycling, hiking and fitness needs. It’s helped support my fitness gains. Garmin Pay is limited, but then I still have my phone for that.
So the Epix, Edge 840 and power meters etc, all feed into connect.
@Swimming11 hi. I got the 42mm. Slim wrists. But pleased. Appreciate that battery life is lower than the others. But not a problem.
Thanks!
That’s a lovely gesture - thank you!
Both. I somehow can’t decide. I love my Garmin with all the stats in one plus, but miss my AW when I wear it, and the other way round 🤷♀️😉! All the best for 2024!!! 🍀
I’m an Apple guy and a « sometimes » Garmin user. The only drawback has always been the weak HR results on Garmin wearables.. but not this time bcause they finally nailed it 👌
I’m looking forward to switching definitely ✌🏼
I currently own an Apple Watch Ultra and a Fenix 7 pro . I much prefer the Garmin . The fact I get approximately 18 days battery , lots of training stats and I much prefer the app on my phone . With the garmin , I feel my health improving . While the Apple Watch is just a durable Apple phone on my wrist .
Is the screen really dim for you as well
Question.. do you wear both watches all the time? Thanks in advance!
@@THELIFEOFCBfor the garmin ? It’s definitely not as bright as the ultra but definitely useable !
@@jordanlawson7054haha I’m not cool enough to pull that off . I usually swap every so often . I’ll try the new beta on the ultra as they are released , switch back , etc
Apple and Tesla Fanboy, but using Garmin Instinct 2X Solar for much more longer battery time, and changed to Anker Headphones away from Apple as well. Last but not least the Garmin App and daily run recommendations are perfect. Also my wife moved to the Venue 3 away from AW, and has now 14 days of battery.
Well done, Cheers.
I’ve been saying this to anyone that would listen for a while ! People that know, like serious athletes for example , just go with a Garmin. They are not using an Apple Watch or a ma Samsung watch, or any other variants of android watches out there. They need devices they can rely on every single time for their events and their training. Great video.
I have had Apple Watches For years and there is no getting around the terrible battery life. I also find the Apple Watches too complicated. It does too much but nothing it does is great. I currently use a Fenix 6Pro and I absolutely love it.
Ordered garmin epix pro gen 2, can't wait my first garmin device 😊
Nice review been struggling with this for 2 years, still can’t decide
Just started to wear an epix pro gen 2 and absolutely in love with the experience. the amount of features and the precision are unreachable.
Went back to Apple Watch from my Garmin Fenix 6, and I run 40-50 miles a week easily using my AW.
I just love seamlessly using my AirPods, Spotify, Apple Pay, calls, iMessage etc…..just don’t get that with my Garmin!
Both great products though 👏🏼👏🏼
I have the Epix Pro 51mm titanium/sapphire… I can warmly recommend it to anyone who`s ready to pay that premium. That watch is the reason i started moving and working out. It works really really well. But remember, it`s a sportswatch, not really a smartwatch
My 51mm with always on display goes for 11 days before charging. 18+ days screen off with continuous heartrate and 40 days with battery saver
8:46 You’re right on the money here Mark. I switched to Apple ecosystem 3 years ago. First mac, then ipad, iphone and airpods. The last thing I switched was Garmin to apple watch. And this was the biggest disappointment. Zero benefits. Thank you for this video, I am making a switch back. I used to have Fenix, but now I am definitely buying Epix pro.
I have the ultra and Garmin fenix 3 HR. I switched to ultra for a few months and now I have the garmin back on. Something about the fit and reliability. Oh and yes the battery life! No more “charge before bed!”
I am currently wearing an Apple Watch Ultra on one arm and a garmin forerunner 265 on the other arm and have been for about 2 months. It looks absurd, but the additional fitness information I get from the garmin is worth it to me (for now), but the smart watch features of the ultra within my apple ecosystem make it my primary wearable. I’ll probably go down to just wearing the garmin for sleeping and working out.
I wear a Garmin 965 and AWU. God gave us two wrists for a reason.
Ironically the Apple has better sleep tracking then Garmin.
Awu + 255 here 😅
I have a AWU 2, and Garmin 965. Workout with garmin cause all info now stores in apple health. I also sleep with garmin cause that syncs as well. But I wear my awu 2 most of the day.
I had the AWU2 and sent it back to buy an Epix Pro. I love it, a much more consistent and conclusive approach than AWU, almost as good as my old fenix 6 😊
Same but I went for the tactix 7 pro 😄😎👍
Garmin makes you a better person. AWU2 just makes you a more techy person. There is no comparison between both watches. I have a AWU2 and Fenix 7S SS. Currently, I can easily live without AWU2, but I miss the Fenix all the time I'm not wearing it.
Thanks for offering your thoughts. As for no comparison - a _lot_ of people are making this comparison before buying - trust me!
@@Zane_Zaminsky never trust a person who rocks more than 1 watch. Pretentiousness at the highest level.
I went the other way. Dropped the Garmin for the AWU. I do ultra marathons and the weight of the Garmin Fenix Pro was just to much after 10 hours.
@CraigEggleton what a stupid remark. More than one watch makes you pretentious? Really? Ludicrous statement.
A stupid remark. Garmin makes you a better person? Please explain how...
Great video, but me personally, I love my Apple Watch Ultra 2. I basically just wanted a fitness GPS watch that is indestructible and that I don’t have to worry about upgrading for a while. Garmin watches are great also, but I just prefer the Apple Watch Ultra. Great video by the way, I’m subscribing to it right now.
Mark, good video and well balanced. I think you should use what works for you! I use the U2 and for me it works just fine. At nearly 1AM (Texas time) I have 61% battery life and started with about 81% this morning. At 73, that’s more than good enough for me. Being that, like you, I’m in Apple’s ecosystem, the U2 is more than adequate for me. I traded in the U1, got $411 for it and got the U2 for the new SiP9, 64GB of RAM storage, & the even brighter screen. So, far I’m very pleased with the U2 and don’t care how it stacks up to the Garmin. I’ve no doubt it is better in many ways. Get and use what works for you, I’ll do the same. I’m keeping the U2 regardless of what Apple does going forward. When the time comes, I’ll replace the battery. The U2 will work just as well as anything that comes after and should the U3(etc.) do more, that’s nice. I’ve found the watch that works for me and I’ll stick with it.
Bought an epix gen 2 sapphire edition during black Friday and it is amazing. 10 days of battery with tracking for golf and mtbing. The ability to map and gps track mtb rides alone dominates AW
Got both on sale but have Ultra 2 and Series 9. I sleep in my 9 to get sleep data and when I wake up I put on my ultra 2. All data just transfers over automatically. I never have a dead battery and got both of them for the cost of the Epix 2 pro. Plus next year I can keep my nine without upgrading for sleep tracking and I’ll probably get over $400-$459 for a trade in for the Apple Ultra 3 and don’t have to sell my Garmin on EBay. Plus I get I Apple Care so I never have to worry about it breaking or not working since it is always covered under warranty. Love Apple because I can set personalized timers, reminders, alarms, standing minutes, walking heart rate average, better sleep tracking which is almost more important if not more than exercise (sleep is very important), AirPod and CarPlay functionality, siren, sos calling, no need to take a phone in a run or to the store if I forget it, I never have a dead battery, the list goes on…….
And still the biggest thing stopping many of us staying with Garmin.... cellular connectivity. A watch you can take anywhere and do anything but can't leave your phone behind with when using it for any lengthy activity. Having the ablitiy to call or message is a must when heading away from home woth possiblitly of getting lost or injured
This is especially true if you use an iPhone 15/14/13 Pro Max.
I have a flip belt and don’t even notice my phone in there. Plus using AirPod pros I can talk to Siri so I don’t need to try to navigate a small watch screen (I’m 50 it’s hard to see). Found I only used my aw as a dress watch because I have a nice band. Ordered an Epix pro, delivery is today - big upgrade from my forerunner 735 - and best of both worlds. I can dress it up, has fancy faces, and still gives me my Garmin usefulness.
Good review. I picked the MIP display over the amoled. I like amoled on a phone, but not a watch. Looks too much like wearing a phone on your wrist. Plus, MIP is great outside and it doesn’t blind you inside. But that’s just a personal preference. Mip display does have super battery life. So that’s a super plus
Can you text on the Garmin or is it just presets? I’m coming from a Fenix 5X Sapphire to Ultra 2. So far it’s been nice. My Fenix is a tank, but it’s nice to have some things to help out with normal everyday tasks like texts, calls, walkie-talkie, and even start my truck on cold mornings lol.
Had a Garmin a number of years ago and loved it. I only switched to Apple because I won the watch in a draw and then kept that watch for 5 years before just now purchasing a Fenix 7X. I really missed the battery life of the Garmin, and I ride motorcycles on long camping trips and hated the high maintenance battery needs of the Apple. This year I am back in the gym and focusing on my health. The Garmin was a no brainer for me. Ride on!
Great points! Most people seem to ignore Apples diabolical battery life.Im sporting the 51mm Garmin Epix pro saphire , after a Apple watch and Samsung Watch 4 Classic. The Apple and the Samsung were basicly not viable for me, it just seemed everytime i wanted to have a workout, or go for a ride or run the damn watch would need charging, to be honest the Apple watches and Samsung are only really viable for people who work in offices, as they can just constantly keep popping them on charge. The Garmin Epix can do a weekend camping trip with navigating and tracking and starting with 30 percent battery life! You can easliy get 2 weeks of battery life, thats with notifications on, alarms, Garmin Pay and spotify! I havent even touched on the metrics yet! The information this watch provides is staggering, the connect App is absolutely superb. For Health and fitness the Garmin is in a different league. My only complaint of the Epix is the lack of a speaker, as the inbuilt beeper is so faint you barely hear it - but you soon forget as everything else is so good.
I always appreciate your approach and explanation for your videos. I totally get the battery life issue with the Apple Watch Utra. But, its ease of use, ecosystem compatibility being so seamless, and the fact I've yet to find an app that doesn't work with it, I really don't have any trouble with mine. At most I'll do 4 or 5 night hikes, and the Apple Watch definitely requires a charge at the midpoint of that...but, I don't find it too bothersome to connect to my battery pack overnight (which I need for my phone anyway) enough of an issue to grab a dedicated sports watch. I quite like Apple's health tracking info, all of which I'd lose or need to change over to Garmin. For me, that's the final deal breaker. Am I bias, very likely as I've been doing what I've been doing for awhile...battery alone isn't going to move me away. I know that's just me. I wouldn't fault anyone for feeling differently.
I totally get you but for me is exactly the battery that moves me away from the awu. I really wanted to like it and i do but i think l'll go back o using a Garmin watch just because i don't want to worry about another device to charge.
@@InnerFreediver I get it. I’ve no problem seeing how that is a deal breaker for people.
Will be honest with you I'm a Polar person. I invested in the Polar V3 after years of apple watches and finally the 1st gen ultra. I've always been an Apple fanboy, but recently took fitness more seriously. I looked at Garmin, Polar and Suunto. Polar V3 won for me. It's just miles ahead for fitness. Smart watch it ain't, but then it highlighted how much of a smart watch the ultra is. I mean you just can't do triathlon with an ultra. Just simply doesn't have the battery. And I actually have come to really appreciate how basic notifications on the Polar V3 are. It's like having just enough info with minimal distractions if you enable them. And the Polar flow app integrates into Apple health. You get guided training and very in-depth insights as well as superior sleep metrics. End of the day the day the watch is stylish, works really well and is packed with features just like Garmin. And the data collected has value and is used to guide you in a meaningful way. With Apple things like sleep metrics don't really mean much. Just tells you that you didn't sleep well, where as with Suunto, Garmin, Polar give you very useful insights. It could be argued that both are just different, but I don't think anyone serious or wants to get serious about health would choose any Apple watch. Without anything else limiting the ultra, it's the battery that is the biggest defining factor as why it's probably not the best choice. Great Video.
I have 16 days on my Garmin and note not fully charged. Ditched my Apple Ultra. Epix gave me data fields in my running and swimming. The Apple functionality and interface was a little annoying for me. Great review and points made thanks for this video.
Garmin person here. Unpopular opinion but I love the MIP display versus the AMOLED. I know MIP is an endangered species, but outdoors, in the sun, especially with polarized shades, MIP is simply better. Indoors, AMOLED wins, hands down, but I do like how MIP just looks, at first glance, like a real physical watchface. Something not mentioned in this video is how flawlessly the Garmin ecosystem works within Android. I can't speak to the iPhone, but with my various Android devices, I've never once had an issue.
Agree 100%
MIP displays are great especially for always on displays. I currently have a Fenix 6S Pro and its display is great an even visible on a glance. But the Fenix 7 Pro I tried last week had a lot more reflections. Maybe it is the touch and solar layer on top. But I couldn't get used to it. Maybe it is a bad sample of the Fenix 7 Pro. Garmin has always had a great variation of how good their displays are even within the same device... :/
I am sporting a Garmin as well along with the new Apple Ultra 2 I don't wear them at the same time during my daily activities but I did experimented with them once together in one of my runs and after that experiment I was wearing more of the Garmin and seems to grab and wear it every time I go out for a run, the Apple watch is more of an watch that I will wear in the office coz it looks good and gets more attention 😁, The Garmins Battery is just amazing even in the older versions than what you have there, thanks for sharing your incites
I am both an Apple person and a Garmin person. I have multiple devices from both companies. But I would never consider an Apple Watch for many of the reasons you mentioned. I do have a Garmin Fenix 5X Plus and am awaiting the Fenix 8. When they become available your channel will be the first I will look to for a review.
Nice!
I am currently in the conundrum of choosing between these two watches. I own both but find the Garmin helping to motivate me day to day with tracking my runs. The feedback it offers me is valuable. Not to mention, I can switch between Android and Apple very easily and let's face it the flashlight is epic. However, the Apple watch Ultra does a fantastic job as well. I can get some feedback but have to use other apps. It is not as valuable as what I get on the Garmin but it's usable. Also being able to use it with cellular and just the overall smart features is a game changer. At the moment the scales are tipped towards the Garmin but I find myself going back and forth. Eventually I will sell one of them though.
have you tried wearing both at the same time but different wrist? Garmin for fitness and AWU for smart features.
I love my original Garmin Instinct. I used to have an apple watch but sold it. I don't need another iphone on my wrist. And the garmin's battery is ridiculous. A week later after I charged it, it went down 1 bar out of 5. And the fact that I can use it on it's own without needing a phone for such things as hiking, etc. is perfect. Not to mention it's the most comfortable watch I've ever worn.
Garmin Tactix 7 Amoled. Love it. Been though the instinct, fenix, epix, and now the Tactix. This is my fav.
I switched from the Garmin 7 tactix to the Apple Watch Ultra. Only think I like is the sim. Able to leave me phone at home and get calls and texts and alerts. I think overall the Garmin is better. I loved the torch and the fact you can disable the touch screen and just use the buttons.
I did the experiment of having two watches: Ultra1 and Fenix 7 Pro. Conclusion the Garmin UI and software sets me back in time... 1990s lol they really need to update their UI and software. I prefer a smartwatch - enjoy the fluidity of iPhone and Apple watch applications. Yes battery on AW is nothing compared to Garmin but fast charging is great on Ultra.
I love my 51mm Epix Pro Gen.2 BIG and STRONG Watch 👑GarmiN👑
AWU2 for me. The health insights take precedence over any fitness features. I like that my music can be on my wrist, and the integration to the Apple ecosystem. There is also the richness of apps that integrate into the watch from my phone. Taking calls. Using my watch as a remote for my iPhone camera. Replying to text messages. Boarding passes. Train tickets. Cycling / walking navigation.
Come to think of it, the AWU is a really cool watch. 😎
(I had a Garmin before getting an Apple Watch, and for my usage, Apple is way ahead in terms of my usage requirements)
I agree. The same for me and it also works great with Apple TV.
Meeeeeeeeeeeeh
There were two things that I really like about my Garmin watch(es): physical buttons, and battery life (obviously). I had a Fenix 3 HR and now a Fenix 6X Pro Solar and I really like that the buttons are the same: they’re in the same locations and they have same functions as before. Heavy reliance on a touchscreen which presents information in a different manner and location from screen to screen and app to app is just a non-starter for me. And then there is the battery life. When Apple was making the (just a) watch, I expected it would have a poor battery, but when they came out with the Ultra - and called it a sport watch - I really expected there would be a better battery life. I also agree with “watch faces should be round.”
I am exactly the type of person you mention. For computing and home, I am deep into the Apple ecosystem (iPhones, iPads, iMac, MacBook Air, Apple TV, HomePods etc). But, for health and fitness I am deep into the Garmin ecosystem. (Forerunner watch, Edge bike computer, scales etc). I have been using Garmin products since 2011 and, like the Apple ecosystem, their products work so well together. I have so much ‘health history’ recorded on the Garmin Connect app that I am loathed to change. As a side note, the data links between Garmin Connect and Apple Health have been improving recently. Indeed, I note that my weight measurements from the Garmin scales show to one decimal point in Garmin Connect but it shows to two decimal points on Apple Health.
I never used a fitness/ smart watch can you please suggest which one to go for
No, as an ultra runner I dropped the Garmin Fenix Pro. It was to heavy for me when running for 12 hours. I also did not like the interface; the fatigue notification was great but ultimately I need a watch with a clear display that is not to heavy and can last for the distance.
The forerunner 946 is ideal for your needs…
I was apple for a few generations then a real watch person. Switched to garmin last year and haven’t looked back!
I really appreciate a month long battery life and it has definitely turned me into a better runner.
It’s the perfect balance of utility for me. I didn’t like having notifications and communication features on my Apple Watch.
For those that do rely on watch calling/texting the garmin experience is pretty trash.
One is a fitness watch that has some smartwatch functionality. The other is a smartwatch with some fitness features. Both have come a long way! I settled on the Apple Watch - the most recent fitness software has had some nice features finally added that the garmin has.
If you‘re sportive in real life: Garmin. Battery stamina and for me most important the ability to choose and place the relevant data as you like & need. Also nice: the huge amount of free & adjustable watchfaces.
Apple Watch 7 user here, for me it’s the phone free running with Apple Music on board, and phone free Apple Pay so I can pop in a shop on the way back from a run for a snack/drink, not sure how well Garmin pay is supported here in the UK with the banks/shops, but I am always Garmin curious though 😁
Great video. The battery life on the bigger side Garmin is nuts. I get 30 days lol. Both are awesome but I prefer Garmin. The looks, battery life etc
I’ve tried swapping this year and just couldn’t do it! I’ve decided for 2024 that I’ll be sticking to being an apple Fan Boy. Great content as usual though Mark
Epix convert myself. The ultra is going on eBay on Friday. Something you mentioned but didn’t really detail… health. It has a metric ton of data available…all over the place though. None of it is curated in the same way that Garmin does. Garmin still has a lot of the same software issues it had years ago, and Bluetooth issues, and “App Store”, and sync issues, and lack of other integrations, etc. It’s just better though once you learn how to live in Garmin world.
Moving from AWU to Epix. Do miss the remote camera app on AW, and connection to ecosystem. Enjoying the garmin(i have had it a couple weeks).
I forgot to mention below, fall detection always on, it checks for Afib in the background as Garmin you have to check it when you feel symptoms, car crash detection, texting by voice or calling on the watch, the new one hand use is a dream which I didn’t think was a big deal but now answering the phone when my other hand has something in it is very useful.
Apple advocate for over twenty years! Wear an epix pro. Wish you were able to toggle off Text, Phone calls , all the notifications etc.... to increase battery life on the apple Pro. Plus a round face. 99% of the time I have my iPhone with me so I dint need the redundancy . I want to be able to switch quickly to workout mode see Time /Heart rate/Steps in bold letters. When the Apple Watch can do that I'll buy it in a second. I understand Im 63 and cant see those small texts lol. But still in better shape than most 4o year olds.
Former Apple Watch guy (AW3) and very much ensconced in the Apple Ecosystem (tm) with a MBP, iPad Pro, iPhone, HomePod Mini... hell, I'm even still using one of the AirPort Extreme Base Stations with a 2 TB hard drive (in limited capacity, of course). I switched to Garmin when the Fenix 6 Pro came out. I now have a Fenix 7 Pro and I honestly will never go back to Apple Watch. I was tempted with the AWU and held out hope that the AWU2 would be a big improvement but when it wasn't... I decided to never go back.
If you're into anything fitness related, even just casually, you'll love the Garmin ecosystem. And if you decide to get more into fitness, you'll find that their ecosystem scales with you just as easily as Apple's does.
I was an Apple Watch fan (Apple Watch Ultra I) until I got a Garmin bike for my touring bike. This was after several disappointments where the Apple Watch didn't log my time on the bike correctly. The Garmin 1130 edge bike computer makes all that recording seamless. I can't get the 1130 to talk to the Apple Watch nor can I easily transfer all of my data into the Apple Health app. After this, I may go Garmin Watch.
Apple needs to realize that making people stay in the ecosystem for *everything* can push people away as well as keeping them in.
I will be watching for your Garmin videos. 🙂
I am also all-in on the Apple ecosystem, and just recently got an Ultra 2. However, as a long-time army guy, my Garmin Fenix would be the one I'd risk my life with. Case in point, while I think the Ultra is great, I've spent two days trying to make it more Garmin-like (which isn't a good sign for Apple Design) and still charge it nightly (just in case). The big divide I've noticed is that my Garmin is a GPS first and a watch second, and it's the reverse for the Apple. Also, battery life could always be better. When the Ultra can go a week on a charge and has a dedicated GPS app then it might be more of a competitor to Garmin. But for true iPhone interoperability, obviously you only have one choice here. Also agree the round face is superior; Samsung Galaxy watch as well
If my AWU got half the battery life my Epix pro had I'd wear it more. I really like my AWU, its a really useful smart watch. My Epix pro though is a decent smart phone, and it tracks all my backpacking and Bike riding, and I almost never even think about battery. If I had to pick only one, it would be the Garmin Epix pro for sure.
Im wearing Apple Watch since 2017 and after upgrading to AWU, I recently bought a fenix 7X. I really love it especially because I’m doing a lot of sports. What I’m missing from my AWU is how the data run smoothly in Apple Health App and obviously all the Apple eco system. So I will keep using both depending on what I’m doing (work or sports)
The best app I bought was Healthfit to display your exercise data
love my forerunner 965, which is also oled display so that mean i still have a beautifull bright display but in the gym it track my weight lifting, my runs, swim, hike and etc. and when traveling I dont need my cell phone data to find great hike or to listen to music because they are already on my watch. I just put my earphone and I enjoy life.
I had an AW3 about 8 years ago, but i was a Garmin guy before and after. I have a Garmin Fenix 7X currently. I really like real buttons and the flashlight. I love the weight lifting tracking - it counts repititions and guesstimates what the exercises are, you can input how much weight you used. After your workout, you can correct the exercise. Then you can view the muscle groups. I do wish they'd do something with this info. I would like to see percentage of muscle groups so you could craft design your own workouts based on what needs work. Also I'd like to be able to create my own exercises.
Workouts and Pacepro with Bluetooth headphones is were the Garmin really shines. It's like having a coach with music telling you when your in and out of pace, heart rate, or power. Also, Workouts and Pacepro annouses what you did on the last segment and whats next.
My last feater is being to copy a exercise and customise the autolapse, alerts with datascreens for just that excercise. I like to setup a "Long Run" excercise which has 10 minute alerts for hydration reminders along with my favorite data screens just for my long run.
I use a Mac Studio, MacBook Pro, iMac 27, iPhone, Beats Fit Pro, and iPod nano. I bought a Fenix 7 Pro SS a month ago and I love it. I was coming from a Fenix 5 Plus and a Forerunner 630 before that and a Forerunner 610 before that. I love the Apple ecosystem; but I was in the Garmin ecosystem a long time ago before Apple had a watch and it's hard to give up all of my data in Garmin Connect. And the battery life. And the buttons for running when I have gloves on or my hands are way better.
Great video, perfectly on point! Love it ❤
I got the 51 mm version and get over 10 days of battery life with always on display.
I’m an 🍎 fan boy too, but their ⌚️ is nowhere near where it should be…
Same I had a Fenix 6 and Apple watch 7 for ages... Never missed the apple watch when I bought a pixel, I hated having to use third party apps and ending up with my data all over, when I didn't wear my fenix I really missed it. In short Garmin freed me from the Apple ecosystem... Though I just got a new ipad. 😅
Good video and nice perspective - I appreciate your candour. The reality is I have always wanted to love the Apple watch, I have an iphone, an ipad pro 12.9, a m1 mbp 14 and, having spent my formative years on PCs all the way back as far as dos 5.1 and having spent time messing about config.sys files and autoexec.bat files in the early years, I feel fairly safe in saying that I could probably be considered as one of the many older OG 'A' typical tech-loving guys. But... I have owned Fenix 3 and now sport a Fenix 5x 51mm, and though I love spending time in a coffee shop on my mac and, on occasions, am happy to enjoy some crushed avocado on soda bread, I do not class myself as a coffee shop dwelling avocado munching tech fiend sporting a man bag with a millennium outlook to life living in a social media connected world. As such, as cool as many of the features seem on the Apple watch, I couldn't really bring myself to consider jumping in on one until the ultra came along.
The hype was great, the idea of having a suitably robust apple watch that I could go walking in the mountains or diving to 40m, seemed really cool (though I haven't done that for many years). But... and it's a big but... Having a watch that only lasts a couple of days battery wise, while giving me basic mapping with what appears (since I have never owned one, so can't say for sure), the requirement to download third-party apps to get really good fitness tracking capabilities feels like a sub-par effort for anything trying to class itself as a true sports/robust watch, and for the sake of a bunch of notifications, which will only disturb me from my workflow (who really wants interruptions all day accept the young who have an insatiable appetite for being connected), the apple watch is well, just a bit techy and a bit shiny, but in my mind, just a bit of a gimmick.
Now, I am a slightly overweight, middle-aged guy, who is admittedly living by the mantra of 'the older I get, the better I was' regaling of stories of my ex-military days, but for all intents and purposes, I still think a watch should be functional. No doubt the apple watch standard is that, but in terms of the marketing hype and supposed change of target market that the ultra implies, I can only assume it is simply aspirational marketing to hit a sweet nerve for those who love the idea of travelling through the Andes and living life on the edge, but in reality are more likely conduct the school run in their 4x4 and take a summer walk up Snowdon wearing a pair shorts while walking the dog and relying on mountain rescue to come and save them like the AA when their flip flops (with slightly more rugged tread) let them down.
Have I been a little bit sarcastic in this message, probably. But hopefully, I have also put myself down sufficiently to rebuttal any criticism in an effort to be fair and share the love with everyone while also highlighting where the Apple Ultra is targeted, which it seems, is certainly not me. And just in case you were bored enough to get to the end of this diatribe... short of something new, it will probably be the Garmin Epix 2 next for me - which is probably the best of both worlds, but in a more meaningful (and useful) way
Funny, I switched to the AWU because the Fenix 7 annoyed me. Whenever I needed the navigation it was slow as hell and Spotify connectivity was also bad. The battery and sturdiness of the watch are great, but the OS on the Garmin is just slow and buggy. Maybe the experience is better on Android, because on iPhone I've always had to connect the watch and phone manually. My conclusion is, that if you want a super sportswatch, that probably won't ever break take the Garmin. For the average person or someone who takes sports a bit more seriously, or even if you want a great smart watch the AWU is great.
Completely agree with your points, I have recently switched back to Apple the U2, I had been getting frustrated with the buggy UI and bad UX but the latest update to Connect gave me the push I needed to leave. If only Connect still looked like it does in this video!
what Spotify connectivity?
Had an Ultra and gave it to my son after I got the Garmin 965, battery life and amoled are just amazing. For me it's about going away for the weekend or week and not bringing another charger.
very good video and finally a big apple fan who is not biased.. :) i am like you having macs and ipads and i love em but i will never buy a apple watch for 1 reason: Battery life. for so much money the battery is a joke..i bought the Garmin epix 2 pro and i love it :)
I may of foolishly bought at ultra 2 and I love it……However, only used it a few times in open water and it’s been piss poor at tracking open water swimming (again a big marketing ploy) now I’m lead to believe they all suffer tracking GPS using breaststroke, but mine funny enough does, but won’t track freestyle!! So maybe more testing.
As for fancying trying Gamin I’m happy with Apple so far, battery life hasn’t been an issue for the last 10 years? As long as I’ve charged it it’s followed me hikes and swims and runs and walks and workouts so I’m personally very happy
I have both, an Ultra 2 and a Fenix 7 sapphire solar. I simply can't choose one of them. But, anyway: you can't decide between mum and dad, can't you? 😀
Definitely Team Garmin. I had Garmin 6X previously and I was considering upgrade to Epix Pro or switch to Apple Watch. Thank God I decided for Epix Pro and I loved them so much. Amoled display definitely worth it over the transreflective of 6X.
I have a MacBook an iPad, and an iPhone. I am very happy with my Fenix 7 sapphire solar. It is a huge upgrade from my Fenix 5. I am happy to stay with my Garmin because it’s tough
I've had the Apple Watch 3 for a while now, it's getting quite slow. Looking to switch to a Garmin for the battery life, running and hiking features. Great review!
I got the ultra 2 and although it's a welcome improvement from the series 7 (battery). I'm thinking in getting the Venu 3 or eoix gen 2. I dont want smart features but only fitness and having one of those with an awesome battery, round watch seems compelling. Plus one less thing t9 be locked on Apple ecosystem
I dumped the AWU2 (that I bought 6 Weeks ago) for a Garmin Tactix Delta that I received for a steep discount. AND I'M loving the Garmin so much more than any Apple Watch that I've previously owned.
I've been an Apple Watch User since it first came out, then I upgraded to the Series 4, then years later I got the Ultra. Same as you, Apple married, to the Macbook Pro, Ipad, Iphone, etc. I do use my PC with windows but not as much as the Apple products. There was a time I used a Blackberry and an Android phone but it wasn't very stable, too glitchy so I started to switch to Apple. I work a lot and being away from the charger is something I need especially with the watch. Recently I've begun to look at what Garmin had to offer. I waited till Apple released the Series 10 and possibly a new Ultra 3 but no ground breaking changes so I'm leaning more toward Garmin again. Enduro 3 or Epix Pro Gen 2. The Enduro 3 has stupid long battery times with solar charging but the screen isn't as sharp as the AMOLED versions like the Epix Pro Gen 2. On another YT video they claimed with certain settings toggled on/off they were getting almost 30 days on his Epix Pro Gen 2. Even if it was a week to 10 days I'd be happy. I don't need the speaker option that the Fenix 8 offers and I'm not a diver. I'm at about 2 days on the Ultra, no text alerts, no email alerts, calendar alerts and maybe a few phone call alerts but no talking,....barely 2 days, thats with a quick top off while showering. That sucks in my book especially with most of the alerts and features disabled. Apple needs to do better if they want to stay in the game
In November I switched from AWU1 to a Garmin D2 Mach 1 Pro (Epix Pro with aviation functions). I haven’t looked back, don’t miss the Apple ecosystem on the watch at all. I have the MacBook, iPad, AirPods and iPhone… just like you mentioned. But the watch works better for me and for my needs than the Apple Watch. The health and fitness functions/metrics, battery life and the look, feel and the way it fits into my life.. is better for me than the Apple Watch. Yes the Apple Watch is cool, but frankly the Garmin watch has it beat.
Buyers remorse with the AWU2 (Black) and went right back to my Epix Pro after a week. I'll be returning the AWU2. Great video btw.
Good video.I started with Garmin owning a Forerunner 245, but I went through 4 replacements as the HRM would not turn off even when charging. Out of frustration I went to the Apple Watch and it was fine. I came back to Garmin and I had a Fenix 6 Pro for years and really liked it. I sold the Fenix 6 Pro 47mm and bought an Ultra 2 for 2 main reasons- I was beginning to find it hard to see the data fields (HR, Weather, steps, etc) encircling my favourite watch face, and the Garmin would not consistently get notifications from my daughter's diabetes Libre sensor. I miss being able to wear the watch while sleeping to get that extra bit of health data, and I feel I look less of an endurance athlete, but the consistency of the notifications, the high end build materials, and the easier readability calm my worries. If Apple ever came out with a round watch face (pipe dream I am sure) I would be all over it. Overall, the Ultra 2 covers all I need, perhaps not all I want/think I need.
Im watching this video with my Apple Watch on the left arm, and my FR965 on the right. I did 3 Ironman races with Garmin (FR945, FR955), a lot of half marathons and triathlons… Last year I bought the AW Ultra and bye bye Garmin. I mean, I tried to go back buying the FR965, but everything is better on the AWU except for the battery. But using Audible, Stryd, and many more apps on the AW is wayyyy better than just having Spotify on the Garmin. Apple Pay with all my credit cards, vs just one card on Garmin Pay, all the connections and features on the AW are just better on daily usage, and now with the screen mirroring to the iPhone when you are cycling, and connected to the power meters, turbo trainers and cadence devices… haven’t being able to go back to Garmin. Ps: Thank you for all of your videos and insights. Cheers from Colombia! 🎉🎉
Thanks for the lovely comment!
Totally agree. There are hundreds of little things the AW does that are cool. And each one individually isn’t really a big deal, but added up over time and getting used to it creates an almost impossible barrier to go back to a third party watch.
That said, I hate the look of it, even the Ultra just looks childish compared to a Garmin, especially for a man.
Benefits of a Garmin for me:
Looks great
Support is incredible
Battery life
Sports focused
Things like golf, body battery, etc all come free and I have to pay for it on Apple through apps like Athlytic, 18 Birdies/The Grint, etc
Having a dedicated alarm that I can use independent of my Phone alarm is great.
Garmin negatives:
Manual syncing
Some things don’t sync to Apple health or are just missing
Too much emphasis on endurance sports
Pricing on top end models is insane
Syncing Spotify is a pain!
Navigating the menus is a pain
Connectivity to third party apps is very limited
AW actually keeps me from grabbing my phone as often, which I think is a huge plus of the AW
A year ago I started using an Apple Watch Series 7 that wife was gifted but ended up never using, and just recently found out about Garmin. I agree that the ecosystem appeal is smaller for smartwatches, specially if you don't get much value out of the "lifestyle" features. As for myself, 90% of my time is either in the office, or in home office, so I don't need to answer calls or get notifications on my wrist if I'm looking at screen all the time. Even my iPhone13 mini battery lasts usually a day and a half. So for me the big selling point for a smartwatch is really the health and sports features. Apple understands this, but they're just newcomers in the sports market. Garmin built their whole tech around sports. Even their lifestyle models seem to have more accurate metrics than an AWU, because of the sensors. If I were to buy a newer model, I would certainly go for a Garmin.
I'm a long term Mac and iPhone user. I had switched to Garmin forerunner 955 from Apple Watch series 4. Apple Watch battery is the weakness point. Cycling is my main sport to do often. Apple Watch battery cannot last for a simple long ride straightly from fully charged. Garmin gives many metric to help improving my fitness.
I’m rocking the fr 965 and I love it. The only thing I miss about my apple watch is being able to skip songs on spotify will I’m doing choirs using my mac to play music.
I have both and the biggest failure in the AWU is mapping. For trail running and hiking especially in new places give me the Garmin every time but for every day I’m AWU
Nice video thanks! I’m also quite deep into the Apple ecosystem (iPhone, iPad Pro, Mac mini Pro, AirPods Pro, HomePod, Apple TV, AirTag) but still had a nearly 6 Year old Garmin Vivoactive 3. I wanted to replace that Watch and read a lot of reviews and watched many TH-cam videos. For me there were too few benefits in favour of the Apple Watch, so I bought the Fenix 7S Pro in September this year. I absolutely love it. And you can connect your AirPods Pro with it. I use it for listening to Spotify (one of the few other companies I prefer over the Apple equivalent)
One thing that always surprises me when watching the AWU and Garmin comparison videos is that no ever mentions the sound quality. I have owned a Garmin Tactix Delta (essentially a Fenix 6) and currently have a AWU 2. When at the gym or out for a run I leave my phone at home or in the car to avoid distractions and listen to music directly from my watch. I loved the Garmin but the sound quality via Bluetooth is appalling. The sound quality from the AWU is far superior and not too far off the iPhone. Wont matter to everyone but if it’s your sole music source in the gym or out for a run it matters.
I’m a fan of both like you are,but I’m leaning a bit towards the garmin, I like the look for one ,two,I never had a garmin but planning to get one,question,are the face and thickness bigger than the Apple Watch,I prefer thick rugged looking watches.
The AWU is a smart phone on my wrist. I wear it all day every day. My Garmin Forerunner 965 goes on the other wrist. It gives me the best interpretation of my training data. I love them both. If I am out on a long bike ride and have an accident w/o my iPhone, the 965 will not call 911.
Hi Mark, I love Apple and use an Apple Watch Ultra 2. I'm currently considering buying a Garmin Epix or Garmin Marq Commander. Do you have experience with the Garmin Marq Commander? I saw you at the iPad launch. Thank you for Feedback. Miri
AirPods can also connect to the Epix for music during activities, works great! Even touch controls are retained for volume etc.
I respect your wish to experiment. I am Garmin Fênix user for about 7 years now, prior to that I used Garmin vivoactive..
This was interesting video for me, perspective wise. I would look like that if I was to try Apple watch... But for me sport and fitness features comes in the first place, that's why I use sport watches.
One thing I need to emphasize: I have used iPhones in the past and never liked the feel of using them. It was like I'm the guest on a my device. I don't have freedom to use or abuse it however I want. There is always that lack of choice, of customization and feeling of being cornered by the people who have clear idea how they want me to use my device.
I know how big Apple fan boy you are and below is my perspective (from another Sheeple). Great video Mark. One of the best AW and Garmin comparison video if I could say that. I have AW (not ultra ) and Garmin Forerunner 255(Not Epix). So I am aware of pros/cons of both but somehow get dragged back to AW. Below are my views for all 5 points you mentioned. All good here. These are for healthy discussion and not upset Garmin lovers/or you, mate :)
1. List of activities/exercises: All I do is jog (not a quick runner and I follow slow AF running community on FB), walk, occasionally swim and play badminton with my son so all the bells & whistles Garmin comes with, doesn’t bother me.
2. Battery life : As I am not ultra runner or the one who go on hiking in Snowdania, Lake District (as you mentions in the beginning of the video) and charge it overnight, battery life doesn’t bother me. I sleep wearing my Garmin for sleep tracking ;) ;)
3. Round Watch face: Wouldn’t be worried. I like both square and round. Will not contest this point :)
4. Price: Epix Gen 2/Pro or expensive than AW Ultra here in India. Both are close 1000£ (base model Epix) so yeah wouldn’t contest on this point.
5. Apple ecosystem: My favourite Apple gadget in the ecosystem close to iPad Pro M1. Then comes iPhone, AirPods, Mac etc. Thing I used most on AW when I was in UK was Apple Pay. I had Forerunner 235 & Forerunner 55 which I used in tandem with AW just to show off but Apple Pay was life saver when got message from wife to grab pint of milk from ASDA, Morrisons or local Tachbrook store in LSpa. Or if I fancied a quick latte at Costa by the Morrisons after finishing my run. I never carried my phone on me as it was heavy . Any emergency calls or quick pay was ace on my cellular version of AW.
Conclusion: Heart says Apple Watch and mine says Garmin. If they introduce cellular connectivity seamlessly as AW did so that I can leave my phone behind then I am switching to Garmin.
Awesome stuff - thanks!
I bought an AWU, as a diving computer. After one year I am selling it, to buy a Garmin MK3i. Surprisingly nobody wants to buy the awu. At the end I believe it is a masterpiece of marketing. A very nice looking smartwatch, and nothing else.
Really love the style and content of your videos sir 😊🙏🏾🔥