GARMIN EPIX PRO - Can It Replace Fenix 7 AND Apple Ultra?
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- The Garmin Epix Pro (gen 2) might just be a perfect blend of Fenix 7x and Apple Watch Ultra. Rugged AND Pretty 💪
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As the thumbnail shows, a perfect blend of rugged and beautiful. And the watch is nice too 😂😂
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@@RachelSchloer You win the "most observant" prize! And my wife is getting fired as video errors checker!!!!
My Epix Pro arrived today and as a longtime Fenix 5+ user I couldn't be more disappointed. This thing looks like a toy and I can barely see the display in direct sunlight with polarized sunglasses. Think twice before migrating from MIP to AMOLED.
Then get the watch checked, maybe it’s broken. A few days ago I compared the Epix w/ my 2023 tactix and a 5 pro next to each other and the display of the Epix is a different league.
@@MT-ou3lh The watch was in working order and promptly returned. There are several reports of Garmin's AMOLED displays not jiving with polarized glasses. I'm a runner first and smart watch user second, so the benefits of the new display were probably lost on me. That said, Garmin's UI is well behind the curve compared to other smart watch makers and AMOLED seems to amplify the issue. The Epix Pro display looked like a knockoff of a Galaxy watch I owned five years ago.
I just started watching this dude.
He made me feel better about purchasing the Epix 2 Pro while already owning an AW Ultra, and he’s reassured me that being bald doesn’t mean ugly. Subscribed, great content
And you just convinced me to order de Epix 2 Pro while also already owning an AW Ultra 😁
Do you wear both watches?
@@DJ_Lanz I actually sold my Ultra lol. Once I put it on, I never took it off.
In my opinion, it does everything better. I absolutely love the thing. Especially the flashlight function! You'll see, the AE Ultra becomes irrelevant, so long as you're more interested in having a fitness device opposed to an extension of your phone
Great comment😂
As always, great video. Really enjoy the way you “keep it real”. Not pushing the latest and greatest, but explaining what works for all levels of physical activity. Keep it up.
Spot on Mark. Really appreciate your open/honest review. I swapped my 7X for the Epix 2 Pro 51mm for the same reasons.
Glad I found this, was looking into a Fenix.
As a side note, your content really speaks to me. I am also a finance worker (39 yrs old) who struggles with diet and bodyfat, and who also goes through periods of extraordinary endurance and weight training, sees great results, and tosses it in the trash. I'm currently training for my first 50 mile ultra in November, and trying desperately to get back on track. You definitely motivate me. Keep up the great content.
Good luck, 50 miles is a serious distance 💪
hilarious and informative. Awesome work on the review Mark. Don’t think I ever watched every minute of a review 😊 And I’ll be sticking with my F6!
Really interesting to see the quality improvements in your videos when showing earlier clips. Great work 👏
Thanks Mark, always very interesting, entertaining and informative videos with really good down to earth sport wisdom..brilliant!💪
Your videos not only got me into running (onto 20 mins in one go now!) I've also bought my first sportswatch, nothing fancy (Forerunner 255) but it's helping me already (mainly by giving me a little dopamine hit when the little numbers go up).
Thanks mate.
I started out with an FR255 and then graduated to a Fenix 5+ which I wore 24/7 for many years. Now I have an FR955 and recently the Epix Pro 2. I still prefer the look and feel of a 255 over all of them.
Edit: Congrats on starting your run journey! Prepare to have your life changed forever
FR 2xx are fantastic watches. Had an older 245, really there's not much difference in functionality with the more expensive Fenix/Epix.
@@Indik47 I had 235, 935, Fenix 6X and Fenix 7X. The battery, multiband GPS and LED flashlight in Fenix 7X is amazing. There is no way it can be compared with 245.
@@dliedke Battery on the 245 lets you run at least 10 to 12 hours, do you need more? I certainly don't. LED flashlight doesn't help with running. Multiband GPS is a nice feature but gives no real benefit in most scenarios (245 GPS accuracy is very good). 245 can be compared to Fenix, as running experience in both of them is pretty identical, except for the maps - which are, again, useful for long trails but for road running are never needed.
235/935 feel more outdated than 245 - no argues here. Garmin made a big step forward in *45 series.
p.s. I do own a Fenix 7 now, I know what I`m talking about.
Absolute goat Mark. Nothing not to love about your content brother! Thanks man
You always say what I’m thinking about these watches. One of the best, honest channels on TH-cam!
Another outstanding review. Love that you are happy to give a clear recommendation.
Just discovered your channel Mark and you are brilliant. We are only ever a few seconds away from a belly laugh and all the information is great. Keep it up.
Perfect explanation love how you said the left vs right side of the tree. I think the same way about some of these minor updates.
I just picked up the Epix Pro 51mm as my first smartwatch ever. I'm more of a hiker so the better detail on the map meant more to me. Can't wait to try the golf app though
Just discovered you, oh my god man. You are absolutely hilarious, long ago since I laughed this genuinely. Keep the great stuff up!
I’ve been a long time Fenix series owner. I recent had the Tactix 7 and Forerunner 965. What having both made me realize is that I prefer the more rugged Fenix in 51mm with the interface of the Forerunner 965 or epix series. Once I caught wind of the Epix Pro I knew they finally had a winner that blended both for me. I sold the other two and am now a more than happy owner of the Epix Pro in 51mm
Thinking about doing the same and selling my tactix 7 pro for an Epix 51mm
How are the re sale values?
I may get this
I did the same 😊 and the jump to oled screen it feels so good
How did you sell your other Garmin watches? Is there an online marketplace for these type of watches?
great stuff Mark, - highly entertaining as always. Thanx!
Like your videos man! Keep doing your thing!
I bought my Fenix 6 15 months ago brand new for 350$ here in Greece and I am quite happy with it! In fact as you said, I hardly use 10% of it as I am a runner. I would like somethong looking rugged enough but a bit lighter. Maybe a Fenix 7s titanium would work but right now I feel its too soon to upgrade! time will tell. thanks for the video!
i am that person that goes into the wilderness for days and days at a time and got super excited when i upgraded to the Fenix 7 solar and realized i can track my hikes and not have to charge it every day
Say hi to the Bears for me 😂
Not hardcore details about the watches but an honest review which many times are much better. Deep diving in specs you can do all by yourself, awesome video.
On point. Best review i have seen so far. Thanks
I stumbled across your channel while looking at garmin watches. Mate, you crushed the videos. Highly enjoyable.
Let's be honest, you encouraged your dog to eat the box so you could say to the missus "I have to keep it as the dog has invalidated the warranty, luv" - I'm loving my Epix Pro Saphhire 51mm after coming from a Fenix 5x 51mm. At 56 the display is much kinder to my old eyes. Absolutely with you on the size of the previous Epix, I wanted a 51mm big boy and Garmin did the business.
Brilliant, thanks Mark. I spent the first 10-minutes thinking, 'damn it, I need an Epix 2 pro!', then the final few minutes thinking, 'nah, I'll stick with my Fenix 6 pro'. Informative, sensible, entertaining ... and you just saved me a ton of money 😂🙏
Same here. I'm having a Fenix 6S Pro and was trying the Fenix 7 Pro last week. But the display has gotten worse through all those layers they added - Touch and Solar. I wondered whether an Epix would fit in. But after watching the video I'm not too sure about upgrading.
Picked a standard edition epix up. Im a short arse with some bulk, so hoping 47mm will be a good balance. Most of my collection are 44-46mm. Coming from a galaxy smart watch. And just wanting to get out more. Great video and focused on individual needs which was refreshing.
Absolutely love your videos🔥
Great review. Love the real life review / sense of humour and nods to the 80s! Happy to subscribe.
Great video. Thanks. I have Fenix 5X and been thinking about upgrading. Leaning towards the Epix Pro now.
I wish I could like this video more than once. Every cutaway to random scenes was hilarious. Also, informative.
I just bought a Forerunner 245 as my first sports watch. It looked way more manly and rugged in the photos... doh! Great video as always, thanks Mark!
Really the best reviews of running watches on TH-cam. I have a garmin fenix 6 pro. Really enjoying it, but like you, I want that phone free experience when out for a quick run.
congrats on the 10k!!
Great advice and excellent video man!!
I enjoy your honest and very “everydayman”, unbias but subjective review of the watches and functionality of them all.
I purchased a FR55 half a year ago, switched it two months in for a new 265s, and now changing that for the Epix 2nd gen Pro.
From your perspective it will suit me perfectly compared to other models/brands, and I tend only to use and have one watch that does it all.
That said I am affected by having to carry around my phone at all times in order to check my blodsugar. If I was not, maybe my need for a watch would be different.
Great stuff as always!
Mark your videos are the best. Glad to have stumbled onto your channel and glad to see you have enough sense to know the strengths and weaknesses of both apple and Garmin. It’s the harsh reality that, right now, one can’t do it all. Maybe this year with apple will change that? Probably not…but fingers crossed!
Great review ! thank you so much!
DC rainmaker for the in-depth geek review, you for the ‘what does all the mean for the normal user’ view of things :)
I have a fenix 6 and am tempted to update for the nice new shiny stuff but I cannot really find a good justification either.
I recently upgraded my old Fenix 3 HR (MIPS display) for a Forerunner 265 for just over £400. Main reason was just for that AMOLED display and multiband GPS. Don't get me wrong, would love an Epix or Epix Pro but couldn't justify the cost and given I mainly just use it for running I didn't really need the extra features of the Epix or 965 i.e. maps. No regrets apart from prefer the chunky look of the Epix especially with the 51mm display (the Forerunner I have has 47mm and is very much a slimline watch compared to the Epix 🤔)
Great video, love your sense of humour! I definitely agree that you don't have to check always all the data and monitor all health stats. I've never been a "data guy" so I'm using probably just 20% of Garmin's functions😂 But still love it! That said, going out without my phone just with the watch would be really great option, but shame that Apple is protecting it's Apple Watch so Garmin watch will probably still have limited calls and text messages functions😐 Thanks for the video! Really appreciate not technical review and opinion🙏
Great overview as usual Mark 👍🏻
For me … I will keep my Fenix 7X Solar for now. It does everything I want. I mainly use it to log / track outdoor day walks (effectively just a diary of what I’ve been up to really, not complex data analysis) On wrist mapping (with TalkyToaster mapping), is very very useful too. No need for a handheld GPS, hooray. Sounds trivial, but when going fast or scrambling or whatever, glancing at my wrist to check for routing info is much better than looking at a GPS in your hand. At one time, before the Fenix, I used to ‘wear’ a small biking GPS on my wrist for mapping. Looked weird, but it worked.
I use it on multi-day wilderness expeditions too. In day to day use I wear it all the time, sleep tracking, HRV, etc.
In the multi-day scenario, when paddling on the sea, it is switched off during the day and a Montana 700 does the tracking. It’s used in the evening to track any on-land activity from the camp. The battery easily lasts a whole week or more without needing a charge. All I have with me are power-packs, no mains power!
Other multi-day stuff involves on land trips, where it will be on all the time, tracking when moving, so best battery life in important.
Multi-day bike trips are tracked by an Edge 840 solar, not my Fenix.
Will wait and see what the Fenix 8 looks like 😉. Probably will be amoled I guess 🤔
I’ve used many Garmin GPS devices over the decades (!) They always seemed to prioritise direct sun visibility before anything else. The way engineers think I guess? Sunlight readable screens were / are always less power hungry than anything more fancy. Power efficiency is crucial for wilderness use. Less applicable for urban use? I hope they continue to offer MIP and Amoled screens so we have a choice.
For mapping, do you not find the maps hard to see sometimes on a MIP in shaded/wooded areas?
Awesome awesome review my man 💪
Thanks for the review. I appreciate the "common sense" interpretation of all the features and what they might mean to me, i.e."Do I care if I went left or right around a tree....?" It helps me chill out about not feeling stressed about not spending $$$$ for the best...
great content Mark!! ..it really helped me as a fenix 3 owner.. epix!
Awesome video as always Mark, off to get the new bright screen ;)
Thanks mark. Now the proud owner of the Epix pro gen 2, and I’ve also sailed through my first sub 25 5K now too 😁 keep up the awesome content!
Pretty cool! I have the Fenix 7 Sapphire which I got last year. Sometimes I wish I got the Epix since I primarily use the watch for fitness and don't actually need a battery that last a full month like the Fenix 7. The iwatch was out of the question due to the terrible battery life. That said, my Fenix 7 is as rugged as it gets and it works perfectly. No complaints other than the Epix would have been a little nicer to look at on my wrist.
Long time watcher first time commenter. Love the videos.
I have had a Fenix 6X for years, just invested in a Epix (Gen2) Pro. I think the biggest 'game changer' is the user interface and detail of maps. If you use the watch to navigate the Epix is significantly better than the Fenix in every way.
What if I want to navigate in direct middle eastern sun with sunglasses on?
Had the 6x for a few years and unlike the previous 5x and 3HR that I quickly upgraded I will be sticking with the 6x for a while longer. Its been with me up Kilimanjaro and this year's London marathon tracked at 42.25kms, it doesn't get more accurate than that.
Yep. 6x is still a solid watch.
@@MarkLewisfitnessGarmin enduro 2 beats all these
ya i've had the 6x too for a while. and its so good I don't think i will be upgrading any time soon.
Yes!! Was hoping you were gonna do this!!👍🏻
(Still wearing my Fenix 6 pro sapphire 😅 )
Really appreciate the down to earth style of explaining pros and cons. Focusing on what really matters to most users, rather than going all out on every single additional functionality you could have (but probably never need). Even risking upsetting Garmin fanboys in the past ;-) Keep up the good work.
Nice vid as almost always, just couldn't unsee you flipping the bird for ages at the beginning of the video😂
High quality and detailed review!
Love your videos. My mindset has totally adjusted as a result from the younger version of me that was super competitive to understanding now in my late 40s that being number 1 is not the aim now, being above average and a little better each day is a life success.
Great review! Subscribed!
Great video. Maybe F8 will go AMOLED. As battery life on that big epix pro is great.
But still using my Tactix Delta solar I got last year at a great price once the new 7s cane out. Dies more than what I need, battery life in weeks. And only moved from it from my 5 sapphire fir the maos, which are great, especially with Talki toaster maps.
And yes the inner 80s kid does like the rugged look if the Tactix.
thx for your point off view 🤙👍
Love your videos. Telling it as it is.
Great info thanks Mark. I just ordered a Garmin fenix 6X Pro Solar Edition GPS Smartwatch from Cabelas in the US. I live in Colorado and really interested in the Garmin functionality but as its my 1st smartwatch I am really OK with a previous version to try it out and save a few bob. I will use it when we head up the mountains.
You are bloody hilarious I watching this sitting next to my girlfriend checking on my delivery every 5 Min for my epix pro , as I starting laughing so loud that she liturally jumped out of her skinn . Love your humour and you videos very informative and helpful. As well you looking awesome for a 50 year old dude keep up the good work stay fit stay healthy
Hi Mark,
I strongly consider a garmin instinct 2x (with torch), and less money for a poor bugger like me. Keep up the good work!
Cheers,
Martijn.
Brilliant point of view, can't agree more.
Just on the point of continuous tracking, exchanging Garmin wearables while all being connected to the same connect account on your phone will still give accurate training and health metrics. There might be some who want to trial both the fenix and epix simultaneously before deciding.
The deals on epix gen 2 are really getting silly, I got one this week for gbp 250. Yes it’s the 47mm, but at this price I get to see what it’s all about before considering the hefty price on the epix pro.
Great review thank you!
Hi Mark ... always a pleasure to watch your amazing reviews.
You sold me on amoled 😂 However, the sweet spot between an old F6 and this Epix Pro could be the Forerunner 265 (don’t laugh 😂)
I’m still on the fenix 3! Although 3rd version as the buttons seem to fail if you use it for swimming, even though it is a multi sports watch. Garmin have replaced it both times - decent service. I have the titanium model which I like as the strap can’t fail and it is very light too. I’ve had loads of Garmins... although my first GPS watch was a Timex Ironman, it had a separate gps unit that you had to strap to your arm, and it took about half an hour to locate satellites. I also use a Forerunner 945 (swimming safe) - both have so much functionality that until they fail I can’t see the point of upgrading. I run, swim, row and cycle, and they do the job. Although new shiny thing... hmmm...
Great watching your vids and feedback I currently own a fenix 6x pro and I love it had it 2 years now I did think about getting the forerunner 965 but to be honest the 6x pro is enough it still brilliant and I mainly do a lot of treadmill running fast 5k times and since I’ve had the 6x pro my times for 5k have gone from 22 mins to 16 mins as I like to try and beat my previous and the watch has given me so much feedback , the new watches really look nice but I ain’t willing to spend £1000 at the moment when I have everything I need on the 6 x pro minus the beautiful amoled screen watch faces
Absolutely with you in this regard!
Very good review buddy, thanks I was looking at the epix pro 7 and you made my mind up to buy it. 😊😊😊😊
This will be my first garmin watch.
Great review. You just convinced me to get an Epix. Cheers!
Hope you enjoy it!
That's it. Sticking with my F6. It does the job. Thx! :)
Nice breakdown. I have a 745 which is a few years old now. I think the new Epix will also use the ECG when it's released in Europe. One thing that DC mentioned was that the Epix still uses the older UI and not the new UI found on the 956 🤔 First world problems eh.?
This is my first time buying a smartwatch. I decided to get Epix Pro 51mm . So happy with it so far 🎉🎉.
Great vid. I disagree with the dismissal of the new GPS accuracy. I like to explore new places on my own rather than organised events. The problem for me for wasn't ever looking back at runs and worrying about whether the recorded route was spot on, but navigation, losing the trail in challenging conditions. E.g. running in surprisingly deep tree covered valleys in the Cotswolds or up the side of a volcano in Tenerife. In the former, I ran for half a mile in the wrong direction on a moonless night and in the latter I ended up clinging to a rock in the middle of a cactus field, some of them with scarily strong cobwebs between them. Running the same routes with a Gen2 Marq Athlete means I've never lost the trail since.
Your use case is very similar to mine.
1. Why Marq? Is it superior to the fenix/epix pro in accuracy? Or did you get the marq a while ago for better accuracy which the pro line now inherited too?
2. For your use-case do you prefer MIP or OLED? Everyone says maps look more detailed on OLED, but I wonder if it wouldn’t be annoying to constantly have to gesture with my wrist to bring full brightness on with an epix if i’m running through a sunny course…
What a video… I was waiting for your review. You are one of the few who really speaks substance when it comes to these devices🎖️Too many watches, not enough wrists ✌️
Glad you liked it
Dog photo on watch - Absolutely!!!❤
So hard to resist upgrading from my 7X to that beautiful screen.
I've been waiting for this video man. Thanks for sharing your opinion. Appreciate it, great video as always. 👍💪
Finally a "real world" review!! Thank you!! 🙏
I like this guy 😊 Subscribed!
Stumbled on this while looking for reviews of the new Garmin Marq Tool watches. I went from a forerunner to Apple Watch a couple of years back but now ready to return to Garmin. Marq is punchy but damn sexy for a sports watch.
I spilt my coffee at 0:18. Great intro.
Great review ! I had the Epix 2 and then switched to the Apple Ultra. But as trail runner and long haul pilot, I'm on the fence for the 51mm Epix... I like the Apple but miss the bigger battery and some of the training features. Also I love the flashlight as I'm often flying during the night and always looking for something in the bag... I like the rugged face as well. Ideally I would need the 2 watches but the Head of the Home Financial Committee ( my wife...) won't certainly let that happen...
I am also under the same Financial Committee.
Poor guys. Still have to ask mommy if you can or cannot buy something. God this world is full if simps these days.
Thanks god, real men like you still exists......... 😏@@Gufolicious
DC Rainmaker is the one to go to for all the graphs and technical details, some great in depth reviews!
Just bought an EPIX (my first smart watch) so a bit late to this party...Great content delivered in a witty 'Gen X friendly' manner - top drills!
Bossman :), always have a smile on my face after watching your videos.
I’m coming from a vivoactive 4 which I’ve had for 3 years (my first smart sport watch) I’m thinking of upgrading to the epix pro, my question is far more shallow.
To me it’s all about sizing, given I’m about to dish out a grand on this.
So what’s you wrist size? Just to get a relative idea.. of how that 51mm looks on your wrist.
To be honest I’m hoping the electronics section in John Lewis will have ones I can actually try on.
I thought the 45mm vivoactive 4 looked pretty decent on my 17cm wrist. I am however enticed by the longer battery life on the larger 51 mm.
From a Fenix 6x Pro Solar owner, that was a perfect review.
I’m glad to hear that they made the screen brighter and use less battery, I have my Fenix 7 up to full blast, thanks to my crappy eyesight without glasses. I’ll remember this when it’s time to upgrade (although considering Apple Ultra).
Excellent review - Thank You 🙏
Transition from Vanilla Ice to Drago 😼
I have the Garmin 955. Gives me everything i need. No downsides in my perspective. I use it for Triathlon/multisport
Has it held up well. No cracks scratches or dents?
Loved all the references
One reason to still use Fenix / MIP display: using watch as a bike computer (mounted on the handlebar). I don't want to buy a separate Garmin Edge unit, but an amoled in always-on mode is unusable in bright sunlight.
Hi mark, been listening to this vlog. I’ve got the fenix 5x and love it. Had it about 2 years now and love the watch , would I get much difference in upgrading to the 7 or the epix? I’m not sure I’ll get more than what I’m getting already. Very tempting as I love the big rugged look of the as well. Do you reckon I’ll be getting more nerdy stuff than I already have?
Good insight! I considered upgrading from the 6X to 7X Pro... briefly. I kitesurf so want buttons instead of touch, and moved from 5X to 6X for SpO2 and sleep tracking after being diagnosed with sleep apnea and started doing McKeown's breathwork. I also have a-fib so considered the Ultra (with its phone for water safety) but am on Garmin's ecosystem which is way better than Apple Health. The downside to the 6 is heart rate - atrocious accuracy! Outside of sleeping I use a Polar HRM10 to remedy that, though. Did you mention the ECG and I missed it? I've seen "no WiFi" listed on some 7X Pro Solar ads, but that's my preferred sync.
Hey Mark, I just discovered your channel a couple of days ago and really really love it. Wanted to see what do you think about the new WatchOS 10 updates?
All the best from Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina!
Very good review. Honest and funny. I like it. Regardless of the choice people make based on it, or tribe they already belong to (Apple or functionality), they are likely to take a more informed decision having watched it.
Great video Lewis. Thanks for this im a so torn between - well at this stage- fenix 7, fenix 7x, fenix6 pro, enduro 2. Epix pro.
I wanted to ask your wrist size and if you dont find the 51mm X versions bulky or such?
thank you, good review
i've been looking at the fenix 6 lately as my first watch since the prices seem pretty nice on facebook market place so i like that you still recommend the old watch