Honestly I think the cats just age differently in this universe. They can perform amputations with rocks, speak to cat heaven, and run around outside at 5 days old. Maybe their aging scale is just weird.
(Warning: out of context/off-topic) The weirdness of the warriors aging reminds me of a homebrew D&D race. Infants and children are about 0-50, teenagehood lasts about 2 years, and then they slowly age for a millennium. Not a good sign that warriors reminds me of something so bizarre.
Here's the problem, cats don't meow in the wild. Meowing is purely a cat to human communication. Like meowing is a learned behavior. So while a baby cat can cry out for its mother they don't really do the vocal meowing that is in Warrior Cats.
@@Topdoggie7 It's true adult cats don't usually (and never usually the same way they meow or practically scream at humans) but the kiddos sure do, on their tiny thin little high pitched voices.
When it comes to feral cat life expectancy the age range comes from death from predators, cars, disease, etc. Not because of being old. Also, with these cats having a health care system they would likely live at least 10 years or quite possibly more.
Their life expectancy is definitely higher than a normal feral cat since they having medicine cats. They still have relatively dangerous lives (natural disasters, rouges, infection, war, etc.) but are more likely to survive.
They actually do bring up Mistystar's age multiple times in her novella before she gets her nine lives! I think they also bring up the fact she makes her son deputy lol
Looking at all the elders over the year, most cats seem to go to the elder's den between the ages of 7 and 9, only absolutly forgotten about cats, leaders and main characters seem to ignore this factor tbh.
In this book, the cats are just mutated from the power of the moonpool and moonstone and they can talk and walk right from the moment they're born. However, they slow their aging process depending on if they're a main character, a side character, or Graystripe and Mistystar. (I know Graystripe is dead just wanted to add him in for the joke.)
Saying “maybe the clan cats are just mutant cats who grow super quickly” has inspired me to headcanon that the warrior and mountain tribe cats are the long discarded subjects of genetic experimentation.
ALSO so many cats in the other clans retire very very young. I've made note of some of them as i've gone through drawing all the cats. Ivytail of Shadowclan: Apprentice in the Sight, retired in Dovewing's Silence Dapplenose: Apprentice in the Sight, retired in The Forth Apprentice Cinderfur: Clawface's son who retires while his father is still a warrior. Shadepelt the first: Becomes a warrior in A Dangerous path, is an elder in Dawn and stays behind with Loudbelly to die alone in the old territories. and many more! Obviously these cats could have been forced to retire early for some reason but there is no obvious injuries or illnesses ever pointed out in their appearances as elders and I think if the writers intended for a cat to retire early for some reason but don't actually SHOW us what happened, they forget themselves and just write them as the same old person stereotypes they've been using for background elders since the series began.
It’s more likely they forgot who was born when with having many cats to keep up with. There are a few warriors who have retired early due to injury but the only one that comes to mind is Whiskernose.
Speeding up kits' developement kinda takes out from importance of them being in the nursery and not starting apprenticeship before 6 moons old. The whole point is that kits are small, too small and not grown up enough to be come an apprentice. Where's that when they start pouncing immediately after being born? I remember Cloudkit being exception adressed in the books when he started catching prey on his own. Now it seems like every kit is like that.
It makes it weirder since apprentices are still portrayed as being much smaller than full grown warriors. If they develop so quickly they should be closer to Warrior size by the time they reach 6 moons.
Also Thornclaw retired too according to Rivers allegiances, he was the oldest warrior in ThunderClan in the broken code and it’s weird he didn’t retire with his siblings and Cloudtail, although he’s still treated as a warrior in River so who knows what he’s doing at this point.
The way I like to rationalize elders is each cat has a different level of constitution and starts getting arthritis/fatigue/general olds at different points in their lives. Very different points... I don't have any solutions for the kit inconsistencies though lol
Considering these cats have a relatively functional health system - and mostly seem to die of fighting (each other, ghosts, and/or other animals) except for the incredibly high greencough-related death count exclusively for minor characters between books - their life expectancy should probably exceed that of the average US American...
Remember that the writers say over and over that these aren't cats these are humans. They're just furry humans. Which makes no sense when you think of a human opening its eyes and walking around at five days old. Man the consistency issues am I right?
The average lifespan for an outdoor cat has nothing to do with aging btw, it’s just because they die from other causes such as illness, cars, poison, dogs or other dangerous animals :)
Honestly I think the cats just age differently in this universe. They can perform amputations with rocks, speak to cat heaven, and run around outside at 5 days old. Maybe their aging scale is just weird.
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(Warning: out of context/off-topic)
The weirdness of the warriors aging reminds me of a homebrew D&D race.
Infants and children are about 0-50, teenagehood lasts about 2 years, and then they slowly age for a millennium.
Not a good sign that warriors reminds me of something so bizarre.
When I read the quote about Spiderleg having gray hairs, I was so confused 💀
His parents were still alive at the time which made it even weirder
Ngl I thought he got gray hairs because he was stressed lol
I mean grey hair doesn’t have to be from getting old. It could be stress. One of my teachers said his hair started greying when he was 16
@@Steffy07 That is true now that I think about it
@@koaladog7gamer it is weird that they chose to say he would be going to the elders den soon, though
For the speaking 2 day old kits, kits in real life meow since their birth by instinct
Here's the problem, cats don't meow in the wild. Meowing is purely a cat to human communication. Like meowing is a learned behavior. So while a baby cat can cry out for its mother they don't really do the vocal meowing that is in Warrior Cats.
@@Topdoggie7
It's true adult cats don't usually (and never usually the same way they meow or practically scream at humans) but the kiddos sure do, on their tiny thin little high pitched voices.
"Your kits opened their eyes LESS than a day old?? Well MINE can talk like full-grown adults already. Snowkit's been asking me about taxes."
When it comes to feral cat life expectancy the age range comes from death from predators, cars, disease, etc. Not because of being old. Also, with these cats having a health care system they would likely live at least 10 years or quite possibly more.
Their life expectancy is definitely higher than a normal feral cat since they having medicine cats. They still have relatively dangerous lives (natural disasters, rouges, infection, war, etc.) but are more likely to survive.
They actually do bring up Mistystar's age multiple times in her novella before she gets her nine lives! I think they also bring up the fact she makes her son deputy lol
I haven’t got around to reading her novella. It’s good to know they mentioned she was already pretty old when she received her lives lol
Looking at all the elders over the year, most cats seem to go to the elder's den between the ages of 7 and 9, only absolutly forgotten about cats, leaders and main characters seem to ignore this factor tbh.
In this book, the cats are just mutated from the power of the moonpool and moonstone and they can talk and walk right from the moment they're born. However, they slow their aging process depending on if they're a main character, a side character, or Graystripe and Mistystar. (I know Graystripe is dead just wanted to add him in for the joke.)
Graystripe lived a really really long time. Being Firestar’s best friend has it’s perks.
@@SunneyRabbit lol not wrong. He got second hand plot armor when Firestar joined StarClan, like how Mistystar got Bluestar's for whatever reason.
Saying “maybe the clan cats are just mutant cats who grow super quickly” has inspired me to headcanon that the warrior and mountain tribe cats are the long discarded subjects of genetic experimentation.
I'm surprised Mothwing is still a med cat tbh! Goosefeather also retired (well, was pushed to retire lol).
The kit thing actually bothers me more than it should. If I ever write my oc warriors story that’s the first thing I’m changing.
ALSO so many cats in the other clans retire very very young. I've made note of some of them as i've gone through drawing all the cats.
Ivytail of Shadowclan: Apprentice in the Sight, retired in Dovewing's Silence
Dapplenose: Apprentice in the Sight, retired in The Forth Apprentice
Cinderfur: Clawface's son who retires while his father is still a warrior.
Shadepelt the first: Becomes a warrior in A Dangerous path, is an elder in Dawn and stays behind with Loudbelly to die alone in the old territories.
and many more! Obviously these cats could have been forced to retire early for some reason but there is no obvious injuries or illnesses ever pointed out in their appearances as elders and I think if the writers intended for a cat to retire early for some reason but don't actually SHOW us what happened, they forget themselves and just write them as the same old person stereotypes they've been using for background elders since the series began.
It’s more likely they forgot who was born when with having many cats to keep up with. There are a few warriors who have retired early due to injury but the only one that comes to mind is Whiskernose.
Speeding up kits' developement kinda takes out from importance of them being in the nursery and not starting apprenticeship before 6 moons old. The whole point is that kits are small, too small and not grown up enough to be come an apprentice. Where's that when they start pouncing immediately after being born? I remember Cloudkit being exception adressed in the books when he started catching prey on his own. Now it seems like every kit is like that.
It makes it weirder since apprentices are still portrayed as being much smaller than full grown warriors. If they develop so quickly they should be closer to Warrior size by the time they reach 6 moons.
Also Thornclaw retired too according to Rivers allegiances, he was the oldest warrior in ThunderClan in the broken code and it’s weird he didn’t retire with his siblings and Cloudtail, although he’s still treated as a warrior in River so who knows what he’s doing at this point.
Fun fact: Thornclaw retired late to contribute to more patrols!
The way I like to rationalize elders is each cat has a different level of constitution and starts getting arthritis/fatigue/general olds at different points in their lives. Very different points...
I don't have any solutions for the kit inconsistencies though lol
Considering these cats have a relatively functional health system - and mostly seem to die of fighting (each other, ghosts, and/or other animals) except for the incredibly high greencough-related death count exclusively for minor characters between books - their life expectancy should probably exceed that of the average US American...
Brooo warrior cats rpers are wild for having elders be like 60 moons old
After a certain point I just give up on the moon thing and start saying “older then dirt”
Remember that the writers say over and over that these aren't cats these are humans. They're just furry humans. Which makes no sense when you think of a human opening its eyes and walking around at five days old. Man the consistency issues am I right?
The average lifespan for an outdoor cat has nothing to do with aging btw, it’s just because they die from other causes such as illness, cars, poison, dogs or other dangerous animals :)
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