Thai Immigration "Cracking Down On Visa Runs"?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2023
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I came to Thailand last month and immigration quizzed my how l was going to stay I said 30 days then he started to quiz me where and what I was going to do.
Been hear many times and never been quizzed like this before.
It all up to the guy who you are dealing with and if he likes you
He flew in tho. I only heard the 2 times a year was land crossings. By air they say it's unlimited so not sure why they rejected him. Things like this make me chose phillipines over Thailand
stop buying condo they will change thier mind
Sorry but the people who do boarder runs, stay at 5 dollar hostels.
Thailand is shooting several shots over the bow, visas, tax law changes, immigration practices..etc Take the appropriate action, some of you have cognitive dissonance.
Maybe the person who wasn't allowed to return to Thailand had several overstays in their passport.
Good points. I also hear of many different experiences as immigration agents have quite a bit of discretion.
@@almosteverythingisalie2610didn't work yesterday. A babe sent me a nasty man to check me out....😂😂😂😂.
I had a 60 day visa in hand too.
Are you living in thailand now or still in Philippines
I kind of get fed up with the self rightous comments like "I will go somewhere else...", etc. If you like coming to Thailand and want to continue to do so, then keep your visa record clean and legal. The rules are easily found on the internet and if you don't want to commit to a more expensive visa, allowing more time in Thailand, then you will need to go stay somewhere else so you can come back later and be within the rules. I mean its up to you and no one if forcing you to come? Thanks Ben for your informative videos.
What's the rules.....therein lies the Problem.
A colleague of mine did a border run after he finished a traineeship at a bigger western country's embassy and was banned to enter Thailand for 3 month when he tried to get back in. Seems like the authorities are getting more sensitive about enforcing the law in immigration matters....
Great advice so many circumvent the rules..Glad immigration are doing the correct thing..
I'm gonna keep you in Mind, I'll check in with you once I get to Thailand. You seem like a good guy to know in Thailand. 😁
2 months in Malaysia not bad, could be few months in Thai immigration Lock up ! I've been in Malaysia 30 I love it.
@@2000jago years
I’ve been coming over since 1980
We used to do visa runs . Fly to Penang with a toothbrush clear immigration and get back on the same plane. Overland we sometimes had to get tax clearances before leaving ( you usually wore flashy , cheap but fancy looking watch . And left without it 😁 but it was all part of the adventure. Now too old and just have the Non Immo O retirement and no headaches at all but I do miss the border banter
Buying the visa at the consulate...no problem,you can come and go
Like i said in past video , i use do boarder crossing to re set visa , but like i said before i made choice to go to immgration to get extention because many video's by other stating how thing have changed not has easy to do or they had problems as it not like it was Pre covid ,,immgration may take couple hours but it cheaper less hassle LESS STRESS WORRY
2 land crossings by land per calendar year, Fly in and out people say about the same, but it can be more, Ive done more in one year and was ok, people fly in and out for work all the time. Its also wise to avoid Bangkok airports if you have a few stamps in your passport for doing this. They want people on the correct long term visas. This was all happening a few years before covid and it looks like it is going back to the way it was.
Bangkok is the only airports for international flights, so how is it possible to avoid ?
No, this isn't a question, just seems silly to say avoid the airports there, but that's not possible..
Use Phuket, Chiang Mai thats 2 off the top of my head, they are both international airports as well. Its 100 per cent possible Ive done it many times when I needed to. You fly to Hanoi, Kuala Lumpur , Hong Kong or any other international destination that you can fly to from these airports and fly back into them, once your'e in Thailand you can fly to Bkk without any issue. Might want to do some research before you say things are not possible. @@isanBen
Phuket is a full international airport, Samui also has some international flights like Singapore and Hong Kong.
@@isanBenkrabi and Chiang Mai also have international flights
And Hat Yai
Thumbs up 👍 Khun Benjamin
Hi ben got n o visa. But when back to prison. Island australia they took my. Passport of me had to get new passport but when arriving into thailand exspkained what happen. And they where really good about it just have to get another visa again
I just want to see when I get this right so I'm going to come in the airplane then I can do true runs so they totally at 90 today so ?
Are they gonna make the 90days on arrival soon?
One of your best videos ever Ben.
Those that try to game the system typically get caught at some point.
I’m glad to see immigration is scrutinizing those that do this and taking the appropriate actions.
Problem is there is no system........
Why does the Thai government care if people are there spending money in there economy
How are they getting/making the money ? That's the question I'm sure Thai immigration would ask.
because "international community" told them to stop
For the same reason the U.K. Australia, U.S Canada and European Unions care about immigration.
@@jbranche8024 well Thailand have a problem with neighbours like Laos Burma and Cambodia working illegally and to be diplomatic they have the same policy for every countries passport.
Why do the US government cares about the current illegal immigrant problem if people are there spending money in there economy
If you leave and return with just a backpack the same day or next day then it’s obvious your doing a border run. I would expect immigration to block a backpacker doing that.
Is this really about forcing people to pay for long stay visa's.
Its about protecting boarders just like your country does...
What about traveling to Thailand 3 times in a calendar year for tourism purposes only? Flying from US, and it has been 50 days since ive been in Thailand. Before I read that I can come into Suvarnabhumi airport several times, but now I am reading the rule is 2. I fly out Monday
I flew to Thailand 3 times this year. On the first entrance, I got asked how long I planned to stay in Thailand. I said, "30 days." And the immigration officer gave me an exemption stamp for 45 days -- that was in February. I stayed for about 75 days, after getting an extension. I left in April for Cambodia and stayed there for the full month of a 30-day tourist visa there. I returned to Thailand in May, got a 30-day exemption and again paid for an extension. I left the country in July and stayed in Bali for two months on a VOA which I extended. I returned to Thailand in September, got another 30-day exemption and paid for an extension. The only question I was ever asked during that process was, "What's your room number?" I got asked that twice on two separate occasions while getting an extension. So, I entered three times this year, but there was a gap of one month (in Cambodia) and two months (in Indonesia). And I'm planning on going to Laos for a short stay and applying for a tourist visa there to come back to Thailand on -- since I have a girlfriend here. Also, I get dental work, and I'm planning on eventually doing an education visa. But I never had any trouble, so far, as a U.S. citizen on visa exemptions -- three in one year, but no "border/visa runs" until next month. So, I'll see how that goes, when I apply for a Thai tourist visa in Laos.
Before my retirement visa I had no issue doing 3 and even 4 trips to Thailand with no questions other than how long did I plan to stay.
I think the key is, I’d be there for 3 weeks, depart and wouldn’t return for 3 months.
It’s those that fly out and right back in a day or two later that raise a red flag in the system when their passport is scanned.
@@TheBrymy I spoke to a few people and they all said I will not have any issue. Thank you!
@@TheBrymyOnce you go to a Thai consulate in Laos for your tourist visa,they will want to see your ticket into Thailand and your ticket out of Thailand.
Yep, that's on the website as a list of requirements. Thanks 👍
Some youtubers in Thailand offer immigration/tax advice although they are not qualified to do so. When they hear the official information from an expert they call it fear mongering. The foreigners doing the visa runs are often people drifting around not doing much or collecting an income from youtube and not declaring it. These same people were in their country of origin ranting about illegal immigrants and how they should be sent back to their country of origin. Funny how that works.
I read your comment twice. I can't tell if you are in a bad mood or just need to vent. Because your comment has very little context on the subject. It sounds like you have an issue with foreigners.
I would suggest you read it again as you missed the point. @@howtomoderate
@@ponpon1234yeah I got the point. Westerners who complain about immigrants in their country are coming to another country and doing the same thing. The big issue with that mindset is that the tourists coming to Thailand are coming with money and have a means to take care of themselves for the most part. The immigrants coming to the west are coming with nothing and stealing jobs from locals and bogging up every government agency or hospital. And you are worried about the $5,000 a TH-camr made to help with food for the year? You are mistaken if you think these guys are making a killing. Most are barely surviving.
Men for the most part go to Thailand and we know why as Thaliand has the biggest sex trade. Show me a foreign man who did not hook up with a young Thai girl 30 seconds after they arrived. The men I am referring to are not tourists, they live in Thailand full time and do border/visa runs when their visas expire. That is not tourism. The immigrants to other countries I am referrng to go through legal channels and are accepted into the country as they have specific job skills that the economy needs and cannot be filled by a person born in the country. Even under these circumstances they are not welcome. The foreign men in Thailand often come with the intention of taking jobs from the locals in Thailand. Yes the Thai government is concerned about income from TH-cam. @@howtomoderate
@@howtomoderate Let me add that illegal immigrants in the US are NOT passing through US Immigration legally, either when the first cross the border illegally, or if they entered legally but are over-staying their Visa with out exiting and re-entering. They are NEVER presenting themselves to US Immigration by exiting and re-entering as those in Thailand are at least respectfully doing with border/visa runs. So it is the difference between breaking US laws and taking advantage of Thai policies. And as you point out, except for very few, westerners in Thailand are coming with money to spend at Thai businesses. If either illegal or legal aliens in the US have anyone under 18 in the household, they are HANDED FOOD STAMPS - meaning FREE FOOD provided by US taxpayers. Many even abuse that by receiving more than one EBT "Food Stamp" card per household. Similarly they get free Health Care by going to any hospital Emergency center, which MUST treat them regardless of immigrant status or insurance, and the US taxpayers pay for that as well through Medicaid's Hospital reimbursement program. So it is a very different situation with those flooding into the US illegally from those taking advantage of a border run as a legal re-entry policy to continue to live and spend their western money in Thailand. (Under the US's current senile puppet president, 2 million are ov such immigration violators are entering the US every year - equal to the population of an entire medium sized city. )
So, 2 border runs per calendar year. Any insight on how many tourist visas can 1 receive within a calendar year?
Good question....of course there is no Simple answer with Thais😂😂😂😂😂😂
The answer to your question and everyone else who wrote a comment with a question is very simple. It is up to the Thai immigration officer you get at that time. In most cases they don't care. Think of it from a Thai immigration officers perspective. His real job is to limit the stinky backpackers who are going to do nothing but cause trouble. If you are tatted up and look like you don't take care of yourself you will have a difficult time. If you are put together and don't look like the next guy who is going to play his guitar on the side of the road for some extra cash then you usually won't have an issue. Again not always but this helps a lot.
Many people go do a visa run for the same thing you are saying , some people just go over the border and get an actual visa the same day or the next day hopping over the border the reason why they opt for the visa its two months instead of 30 days but same concept. Many visa runners or border exception has the same goal but they opt for the viss because it's a longer stay that's all to it. 1 of the differences is you pay for the visa but that doesn't mean you are more more genuine , some people applying for tourist visas work in the Kingdom and some applying for visa exeption are actual tourist and vice versa , sometimes you make it sound like visa runners are more genuine many viss runners run visas only because they already finished their exeption quota.
Both applications can be denied and I don' think 1 is necessary's easier to get than the other. either 1 can be denied entry and I don''t think 1 is stricter than the other you can even have an actual visa already processed and be denied. The intention of the person should not decide if its classified as a border or a visa runs both go to the border.
Just yesterday don mung guy told me i stay Thailand too mut. Ive been using visa on arrival and 3 tourist visas in the last 12 months.
Coyld be Legit.
I thought arriving by air is EZ peasy.
@IntegrityLegalThailand if i get a 60 day TR evisa...extend for 30 days..leave and come back on visa exemption at land border...will I run afoul of immigration?
As long as you not done it back to back more than twice
Maybe Big Trouble.....who knows is the problem.
I wouldn't worry about it. Next time go to Vietnam for a month and apply for a 6 month multi entry tourist visa. This is the one visa these lawyers never talk about and it solves most people who are trying to be perpetual tourist problems. Get the 6 month visa. Stay for 60 days. Renew for 30 days. Do a land crossing. Do it again. Then right before the visa expires do another land crossing. Apply for the 60 day visa then extend it. That's 9 months in the country. Leave for a month after that and reapply. It's not that difficult. The horror stories are usually from dirty ass backpackers.
@@howtomoderate can you cite a source....this doesn't come up as an option on Los Angeles Thai Consulate Website.
@@user-bk1kc5kw9d it's a bit tricky to find. The only thing that might hold some up is that you need to show proof of a savings for $5500. But if you don't have that you shouldn't even be thinking about traveling to Thailand for that long anyway lol.
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What’s is Thailand going to do when the peasants can’t travel anymore due to carbon credits?
It's simple, at 50 apply for a retirement visa and stay 12mths, under 50 just do your annual 4 week holidays until U turn 50.
Some people have more than 4 weeks holiday. I have a 0 hour contract so if I do long hours I can afford more than 4 weeks and I can take as much holiday as I like
@@harrymcfadden2572 i have been in thailand for 1 year living on tourist visa stamps plus extensions. you just got to know how to play the game. Also don't get too excited, they are coming after retirement visas next.
maybe not really that simple especially if one doesnt want to stay year round. a retirement visa is a big hassle and time consuming. requires a big deposit in a notoriously unsecure thai bank. i see reports of bank fraud almost weekly. farang and even thai staying overseas are targets. requires reporting to immigration and reporting if leaving your province. lots of documentation and acceptable proof of income can be difficult. redundant insurance acceptable to immigration. constantly changing rules and income requirements. i try to spend the (canadian) winter in thailand and pop back for a stay in the summer. total 5-6 months per year. 20 years ago this was simple. now the only solution i have found is fly into thailand with a 2 month TV, an onward ticket to malaysia 90 days after arrival and a return ticket from malaysia back to canada. my last info was one could no longer apply for TV from anywhere but one's home country. to stay 4 months i have to extend my TV for 30 days in thailand and then make a "border run" to malaysia after 90 days. I return to thailand with an return ticket back to malaysia in 30 days. in the summer i just get a 2 month TV and dont extend trying to not exceed the 6 month total stay per calendar year. as inconvenient as this is it still beats the hassle and risks of a retirement visa but i wish there were better options for retired snowbirds. i never really know if the immigration officer will allow me to enter thailand after the border run. with all my passport entry/exit stamps my passport gets scrutinized every time but so far only asked for a bribe once in the last 10 years and so far no deportation.
@@davek1943 i understand you, the thai government is so corrupt their visa system is complete trash. It's a complicated mess that always ends in cheating the system or paying someone out. There was a gruesome murder a millionaire farang in pattaya. the killer was in a motorcycle gang and he was over 50. The thai gov is now looking at reforming the retirement visa because they are learning many of the over 50 farangs do not have what they claim they have in their bank accounts and criminal organizations send their 50+ age gang members out here to spread their criminal enterprise because the thai police can always be paid off. Mix this with a bad world economy and now there are reports of low tourism GDP from the thai gov. This country is fun but man the system is so fucking stupid to put up with out here i am starting to veer towards the Philippians or south america.
There is no 6 month total stay per year😂😂😂😂😂😂rule.
Might have one start 2024 for tax reason s.