@its_not_the_Ishu it was a joke 😃 anyone with a 3060 should wait for a 5060 or something else. But if they are still running 1080p 60hertz then ride it till it dies
The sad part is when you realize this uplift was one of the _better_ ones of the generation. Look at the 3060ti>4060ti or 6800xt>7800xt. Many cards gave pathetic uplift or got price hikes that made them an even _worse_ value. Even with price drops there's nothing that stands out and even the best case scenarios can't muster up better than "well I guess it's not _that_ bad." AMD and Nvidia were perfectly happy for decades making 25-30% margins. Neither them or their shareholders want to go back now after enjoying the 50-60% margins of the crypto boom.
the naming of nvidia gpus is a scam, its actually a 4050 vs 3060, and if you keep that in mind, the performance that we see, makes way more sense unlike nvidas pricing
@@Sp3cialk304 Amd flopping all over. Rx 7600 shouldn't even exist but they wanted you to waste money, They could have offered from the rx 7700/rx 7700xt 16gb at 300$ the rx 7800xt at 399$ the rx 7900gre at 450$ the rx 7900xt at 599$ the rx 7900xtx at 699$, And amd would have won this generation easily and made tons of money but decided to prioritize money.
@@jasonvors1922 I like AMD but I think they spend to much time listening to the vocal minority. Rdna2 was good, but refusing to modernize rdna3 was a bad idea. The vast majority of gamers care more about modern features and how they actually play the game than raster only native benchmarks
You can apply this too with the Rx 7800xt and 6800xt. Both have very small difference in performance. Techpowerup even has the rx 6800xt leading over the 7800xt in horizon forbidden west.
@@adlibconstitution1609 Not really. The 7800XT came at a much lower price point. The 4060 came at almost the price but even with less memory. The 3060 was a 1440p card, but with the 4060 you only get a 1080p card and still have to lower textures.
It not shit really, i can confirm the power to performance is insane on the 40xx series cards, it all depends on what you upgrading from. In my case i had a rtx 2060 then upgraded to a rtx 4070 super. Basically was a 130% increase in performance but if you have a 30xx series card i would suggest wating for new cards to come rather. All i can say is the 4070 super is a beast and even though it was not meant for 4k gaming i can play 80% of the AAA titles on 4k med/high settings and still hit +-60fps. So for me was money well spent.
Nvidia made the 4090 to keep the performance lead and mindshare but reduced the die size of all the other models to save up capacity for AI chips. 4080 is 40% smaller than 3080, 4070 is 25% smaller, 4060 is 40% smaller. The 4090 is just 3% smaller than the 3090.
Bruh, they're using a different process entirely. 4000 series doesn't use the Samsung 8nm series they had in the 3000 series, this time they're using TSMC's 4nm process nodes. There's a lot wrong with the lower end rtx 4000 series but that's just not a way to compare this.
The 3060 getting 90 FPS at Very high settings while the 4060 is getting 30 FPS with frame generation is hilarious. Now I see why Nvidia blocked frame gen on 3000 series gpu's... Thank you AMD!
@danielowentech It's fine, as a father of two I can say kids playing are one of the things it's worth living for, a bit of stumping won't ruin the video if the content is interesting 😊
@@nickwu4384 what? New gen games are fast unreal enginge 5 does not love 3060 and games like horizon for b west hell blade enz enz settings to medium then is time for a new gpu . 1050 ti was long time good now useles
It is clear that even for an entry level GPU at 1080p, only 8 Go VRAM is not acceptable anymore to the play the latest games if we want a true 60 fps with decent 1% low.
To be fair you need to keep in mind GPUs take years to design and Nvidia is surely deep into the designs on the generation _after_ 50 series. No one was crying about 8gb of vram back when these were designed because no games needed it without cranking it to 4k that none of these were ever designed for. But still they really _should_ have been planning ahead better.
@@zodwraith5745 It was clearly planned... the fact the 3060 had 12GB ram on a 192bit bus, what nVidia decided to do was using only GDDR6X memory so 8GB on a 128bit bus. If they used slower GDDR6 memory but 12GB on 192bit bus. It's planned obsolescence there is ZERO excuse for such practices!!! Nvidia knew this after all they work closely with a lot of the developers they KNEW THIS WAS COMING!
@@zodwraith5745 Issue is 3060 has 192-bit bus and 12gb GDDR6 VRAM. It is 1440p card then now 4060 has 8gb 128-bit bus which was in 3050 8gb. They made each card 30% faster, But instead of passing that to customers. They decided to rip off and make everything cheaper for them. It's 2024, Consoles have 16gb shared vram. So on PC, you'll need 12gb vram and >20gb ram to match.
@@Dazzxp I love how you clowns act like it's a personal attack on you when Nvidia shorts you on vram, but magically pretend that AMD didn't do the exact same thing with the 7600, 6600, and even _worse_ with the 6500xt and 6400. After all, THEY KNEW THIS WAS COMING!!1! RIGHT?! GTFO with your fake outrage for a card you had zero intentions to buy in the first place.
@@Dazzxp why put 12 GB in ram if it can't handle games to the maximum... in some cases, with certain games that require a lot of virtual memory even at the minimum, it's good, but I don't know what the graphics performance will be
I just bought a 4060 Dual OC to fit into a Mini Itx build for my son and it runs really well @ 1080p. He only plays Fortnite, Destiny 2 etc and gets consistently 144 + frames with high settings. The games look good and are smooth on his 144hz monitor. And, the card runs very cool, is whisper quiet, and draws little power. Yeah, it isn't what it should be but it works well.
The 4060 was basically made for fortnite, and other online shooters, 8GB VRAM won't allow for proper frame generation, you can still use RT on 8GB's but some games will do horrible texture swaps and some others drop significant FPS, DLSS helps a little, unless on performance, and FG doesn't do much cause 8GB won't let it properly The 3060, isn't much slower, and AMD FG saves the GPU when it struggles, also amazing RT performance, a lot of VRAM headroom over 8GB cards, so a lot safer, Path Tracing ultra with DLSA Balanced on CP2077 gives at least 30 FPS, with FSR3 FG it goes at least +50 FPS, and it doesn't look that bad, unless you are very sensitive to high FPS and notice the littlw ghosting effects, but that ain't going to knock you out or hurt the eye. Even the 30FPS on Path Tracing look so good and its so smooth that it won't feel like 30 FPS But the 4060 could give a considerable difference in high FPS shooters Everything's fine on 4060 unless Nvidia FG The 4060 Ti 16GB works excellent in terms of Frame Generation
Upgrade from 750 ti, I found Colorful 12 GB rtx 3060 Triple fan in the used marked at just 17k INR, bought it instantly. I was a little sceptical about not buying a 40 series for its better Frame generation abilities. Hardly did I know even FG needs vRam too. Best decision ever. I could have gone with 3060 ti but it was 8 GB. Having a blast with my 3060
It doesn't need more approval. Just Last of Us alone already proved it more games will be VRAM demanding like that in the future but people are still ignorant. 🤷🏻♀️
@@KN-592 You can get a 4060 for $200 dollars. Daniel and other tech youtubers other than the Toasty Bros don't understand the concept of looking for a bargain at a local shop.
I told people if you want want almost max settings 1080p in modern games you need more than 8gb for most modern games. We are finally in the gaming era of pushing games to need more than 8gb while barely noticing the beefed up graphics 😅
I remember gtx 1060 6gb having troubles with witcher 3 max settings. Honestly shilling nvidia is dumb, but idk what people expect from a XX60 gpu. "It should've been 200$" yeah no shit, I'd prefer it to be 100$, but that's just not how it is or ever was. 4060 is capable of running 1440p high with DLSS (which in this resolution has no more visual artifacts than just TAA, if not less), is it really considered bad?
The thing is the most graphically advanced game up to date - Hellblade 2 - does not need more than 8GB of VRAM. While much older games, like Horizon FW (2022) or Ghost of Tsushima (2020) somehow need more than 8GB of VRAM. Why do these older games are using VRAM less effectively?
It’d be nice if people started showing some 4k in low or medium settings as the 6750xt does 4k good in some games and considering it’s the 4060 competition it would be nice to see (we know the 6750xt is better than the 4060) not everyone wants a 4k @ 120fps set ups, some people are fine at 30-60 fps especially if they come from consoles at a budget
Nobody with 4k is buy low end GPU my friend. I had a cool 😎 1070 with 8gb got a new LG oled 48inc Cx gsyinc tried Games like control and cyberpunk and call duty and the card tanked. 23fps 30fps low settings it's just not going to work.
And another thing if you're fine with 30 fps to 60 FPS that's garbage I don't see past 60 FPS well you know what buddy get a real 120 and I guarantee you see your mouse move better in fact I would argue 165 should be the goal because you're not going to notice much difference between 120 and 165 but for the price you can get into a nice monitor at 165
@@bumperxx1 I have a graphics card that can do 4k perfectly fine I’m talking about those who want an entry 4k experience. My 2nd pc does it just fine on my LG oled. I’m busy enjoying the gameplay than focusing on fps like everyone else.
If your budget is £300 then these are the two options you have from Nvidia, 4060 or 3060. 4060 looks okay but then you realise it has on 8GB VRAM and then you look over to the 12GB 3060 but you have to sacrifice DLSS/FG and power if you want to go with that one, for me what saved the day - the best option imo - £300 for a brand new RX 6750 XT and you get the 12GB VRAM and faster performance than both the 3060 and 4060.
Okay that's great I'm glad you chose a 6750 XT but what monitor and CPU do you have again everyone is saying buy this for this price buy that for that price what is your system Jesus freaking Christ it's like I heard the other day a 7700k Skylake chip is still good no it's not but it works for my 1080p okay yeah great 60 FPS so again what did you pair with that graphics card CPU RAM and monitor
Overall, I'd still rather have the 4060, but I would recommend waiting for an upgrade for those with a 3060. The upgradability is just too weak at that level.
BRO ARE YOU SERIOUS I AM LITERALLY RESEARCHING THESE 2 AGAIN OMG THE TIMING, THIS IS PERFECT. (i swear if you are about to make a video about 3060 ti vs 4060...)
19:42 The 4060 is not loading ultra textures. Its hard to notice graphically on youtube but its evident in the vram usage discrepancy, thats more than 3GB difference.
@@lanelesic That's how Avatar handle vram. It doesn't remove anything from the allocated vram pool until it has to. So it reports high allocation but isn't actually using all of it. RDR2 will do the same thing, you can get it to show over 16gb of vram allocation at 1440p, but it's not using close to that.
@@Sp3cialk304 The premade benchmark doesnt take into account players agency. That aggressive usage/ allocation method would show up in gameplay as microstutters and frametime spikes.
@@lanelesic read the conclusion of Techpowerups Avatar performance review. The way they word it may be easier to grasp. It's similar to mip mapping. It won't hurt performance and the difference in detail would be on super far away assets, where you don't have enough pixels display the difference anyway. Basically how nanite works for poly count, but with textures. If you had a huge screen and higher resolution than current cards could run you may be able to see a difference, but currently you can't because 2 pixels can't occupy the same spot anyway.
I work at a computer store & 4060 sell like hotcakes. the majority of casual buyers don't care about youtubers opinion. they always buy new products from nvidia, just like iphone lol
@@peterkolesar4020 How is that exactly a problem? isn't that why we have tier lists for gpus? entry, midrange and enthusiast/high-end? You can't really fault them if they don't have the time of day to learn about advantages and disadvantages, they see exciting and advanced features like dlss, dlaa and ray tracing and it's all in one entry level gpu, and they will feel they spent their money wisely. If AMD can generate excitement over fsr instead of everyone praising their rasterization which not a lot of casual people know or care about since they think the Nvidia features will make up for all of that, then more people will feel at ease instead of feeling that they're taking a risk choosing AMD over Nvidia because most of the people I've read on Reddit say they only enjoyed AMD because they took the risk instead of it being their first choice pick.
@@rob4222 The 4060 ti 16gb is faster when 8 gb isn't enough but it's still too expensive so basically worthless unless you can find one used. The 4060 ti 16gb is horrible value.
I have a 16 GB 4060ti and it's been great. I was very reluctant to buy it because of bad reviews and didn't want AMD. Coming from a GTX 1070 since 2016 it's been a huge upgrade. Horizon Forbidden West gets 120-150 fps with DLSS and Frame Gen @1080p. I tried using the new GPU with my old i7 6700k and it was a shit show. Went with a 12600k and DDR5 ram and I'm very happy.
@EveryGameGuru considering the price and how close these cards are in performance, I'd rather have the one with a more stable frame rate and frame time. Fps is only as good as it's stability.
100%. A couple years ago my buddy was up for a GPU purchase and he was SURE he wanted a 3070 but I convinced him to get the 6700xt. In 2024.. he doesn't realize just how useful that add vram is with the latest games he plays on 1440p display. I hear no complaints like we hear with 8gb GPUs now. All hail the vram value king AMD! Shall they continue to thrive by providing what Nvidia fails to.
Well again all these buying decisions I'm going to have to be made with regards to what monitor you're running and the technical specs of that monitor not to mention a CPU that won't bottleneck it. I hear people still have 7700 K Skylake chips that's not going to cut it with a modern GPU. Old but bumper 6 corse four threads is still cool 😢. I would love to see these graphics cards he's testing with 1080p 360 hertz you're not going to get it. I'm glad you convinced your friend to buy an AMD graphics card I just hope he didn't have like a g-sync monitor 175hertz of so you got something that wont get you high frams and hertz with that monotors spec. You're still not giving the details of his system what do you guys not understand about specific components to work with specific components
I have a 4060 for 2 days now, had a 1070 the last 5 years. BO6 with my 1070 with extremly low settings 70 FPS, 4060 with DLSS and high settings 140 FPS FullHD. I´m happy, nothing comparable in a price range of 300 Euro
@@TtotheCizzel 3060 (2020) vs 4060 (2023) Same performance. Lower Vram. You overclock the 3060 and you get maybe another 10% over the 4060. No intergenerational jump in performance. Rather the opposite. That's why the 4060 is one of the worst cards. The 4060 was supposed to be a 10GB RTX 3070.
Which one would be better for gta 6 considering the last two games like GTA 5 and RDR2 had ram, vram leak issues. Don't say none. Of course low medium settings or even high as it would be a story mode game so as long as FPS is stable and more than 30, it should be good. I recently bought one for my system as this is the best money can afford and can't get even 1$ (The price difference is 40-55$ BTW here) higher in budget considering 6000 series is rare here.
@@radger6392 i actually already played all those games causing issue for 8gb vram card on my vega 56 in 1440p, guess what? its not that big of a deal. This is not the era of 2gb vs 4gb where the game wont run at all. You can just turn down textures/shadows from ultra to high and all those useless volumetric fog/cloud to medium and use dlssQ the vram will be way under 8gb and run smoothly and still look as good as ps5 12gb is nice to have but if you were to push all those graphic to ultra the fps gonna be low anyway. You will eventually find yourself playing on medium low settings for alan wake 2 to have that smooth gameplay 3060 vs 4060 each trade blows so its really up to you, but i guess i will go for 4060 for more fps and lower tdp at the same price. Just go with which one have the best deal
@@loucipher7782 I think 10gb for both the GPUs would've been the best. Then nvidia would not have launched the 8gb version for the 3060 and hearing people cry about 4gb less vram for the 4060. But anyways I would've never bought the 3060 if the price difference wasn't 40-55$ and 6000 series (6600xt or higher) were readily available for the same price. I would've somehow forced them to my 550w PSU and ignored the bottleneck..maybe. I really don't mind ray tracing and stuff. But still was a big upgrade from rx 550 2gb
@@radger6392 i think its an architecture thing that made 10gb not possible or too expensive to produce. 6600xt is still 8gb 6700xt 12gb might be too much for your psu. My vega 56 8gb is already 6 years old and i am still capable of playing all AAA titles at 1440p tho now down to High/Medium with fsrQ made it possible to squeeze a few more years out of it. Anyway the best game on PC right now with 100++ hours content is Baldurs Gate 3 and it barely eat 6gb vram, also if you are into Jrpg like Persona it take even less vram and GTA6 for pc wont be release until 2026, 2027 for Steam. People is just crying wolf at the 4060 as AAA titles that break 8gb barely last over 10 hours play time, they are all linear game with lots of bling blings that can be turned down and still look amazing. 12gb is nice to have but not necessary for such a budget tier card but i guess anything is better than a rx550 lol have fun gaming.
No idea! Seems like a big oversight if YT doesn't enable that. Not sure if that is something I have any control over on my end. I didn't change any settings other than publish this for Channel Members only.
@danielowentech all good just thought it was strange that it doesn't allow background watching or listening on member on videos. Everything else is fine. But none the less u keep doing u I love the way ur free in ur videos and don't care to do a video with ur kids running about. I'm a father myself so believe me I get it.
I love this haha. I hear the kids and I can picture them running around like my little ones do. Also the PnP of you pointing everything out at first I thought I might not like it but I actually prefer it now. Thanks for the video sir!
I'm new to pc building generally, but I've been taking in a ton of info over the last week or two and generally from what I can tell it's a crime against humanity that the 4060 didn't come with more VRAM
I don't know why everyone hates 4060. For 1080p is on average 20% faster than 3060 and that it's all that matters. It's a 1080p gaming card at the end of the day. For higher resolutions one should aim for at least 4060ti and up
I think thsy don’t like the vram and the thing is people dont hate it, its just feels like unnecessary card its only decent for people getting a new build without previous pcs or a really outdated gpu
what if i dont have one, first time buying which should i choose? i can only fit dual fan in my pc case. I want to use it for rendering in sketchup and gaming for valorant only, also i want to pair it with ryzen 5 7600x.
Aren't there more games that support Nvidia frame gen? It's the major selling point for the 4060 so we should test it and/or whether the VRAM is enough to do frame gen.
In the Avatar test, GPU memory usage on the 3060 goes way beyond 8GB, and yet the 4060 doesn't use more system RAM, which suggests to me that the game reduces some quality settings when not having enough RAM, rather than spill into CPU RAM. This might be the reason the 4060 has more of an advantage in this game over the 3060 compared to other games.
After wathcing the video i came to the cconclusion that greedvidia sucks. Save us intel, because amd never will. The 4050 and it is a 4050 should be 200 and the 3060 12 gb should be 180 and the 3050 should be retired.
I own both a n RTX 3060 12GB and an RTX 4060 8gb in my htpc gaming setups. I don’t use frame generation at 1080p/1440p (with RTX 4060) so I’m fine with using FSR frame generation ‘IF’ needed…… especially with FSR 3.1 coming out now in games and modders, I’m sure, adding tweaks for a drag n drop into older titles etc🤤🤯👍🥳. Saying that it appears that newer game engines like UE5 uses vram more efficiently than older engines so maybe, just maybe, Nvidias ram skimping (8gb gpus) was known by them from initial engine testing for gpus 🧐😳? Imo if you’re a gamer who uses a lot of texture mods etc on older games …. I’d go with the RTX 3060 12GB …..otherwise get the RTX 4060 for the added performance….. but that’s me 😁👍
you are objectively wrong. My gpu is using 10gb in most modern games, sometimes even over 12 like in RE 4 with raytracing and dlss in 2k. 8gb is definitely not enough for 1440p gaming, especially not with rt or any other nvidia feature that needs vram to run.
@@__-fi6xg I don’t use RT or FG on my lower end gpus which l assume your GPU Is notably stronger than these and can actually use these features (RT & FG). Anything requiring power I run on my RTX 4090 or RTX 3080 or RTX 4070.
@@ltg8382 yep I try when ever I can🥳😉. I’ll just game on either my RTX 3080, RTX 4070 or RTX 4090 when I actually want to use Ray tracing or Frame Generation.
It's funny how people complain about Nvidia but magically ignore the 7600 is also only 8gb. Then when AMD makes the 7600xt and Nvidia the 4060ti 16gb people bitch cause they wanted special edition redesigns for free.
With the price going crazy of : GPU , new unoptimized games and there needs for a very large ssd ..........a lot of people don't upgrade ther GPU and buy and play old games (bugs free , low price ..ex). Graet video and content .
I just bought my 3060 12gb upgrade from rx 590. Pair with Ryzen5 5600. As we know 50series card will coming. Using this 3060 for 4-5years then will upgrade to 50series card in the future. 40series cards is great card but i would rather see 50series cards or AMD 8000 cards ❤.
Really odd you move your avatar around all the time just make it smaller and leave in the bottom left corner its really hard to know where we are supposed to be looking when things are darting around the screen
Just enable your Nvidia Broadcast and crank up noise suppression or use Krisp to get rid of any background audio. I teach animation at colleges and when I'm doing my online classes, Nvidia Broadcast is my go-to. I've got cheetahs in the house and my neighbor is an opera singer - just saying.
i bought used 6800 xt for 250 usd a month ago, and absolutely run everything without stutter on max setting. I have 4060 before, and 6800 xt deliver a different level of experience compared to 4060. Even though 4060 have dlss and frame gen it still stutter because frame gen use even more vram to function, what a shame for nvidia here.
So let me get this straight you had a 4060 and then you went to the used market for a 6800 XT I mean what kind of monitor are you running and what kind of CPU do you have a lot of things are going to determine whether you're stuttering or not because you don't have the right parts of the other setup I just don't get it because these are other major components that you need to pair up properly with gpus it's not just buy something and shove it in
@@bumperxx1 5700x 32gb 3600mhz 1080p 165hz monitor (planning upgrade to 1440p). I'm playing forbidden west at the moment, 4060 can't even play at 1080p max setting without stutter let alone 1440p.
@@loucipher7782 I agree, but the texture quality is always should be maxed out. It doesn't cost a lot of performance if you have enough vram. 8gb definitely not enough for max texture at 1080p.
@@octechno749 just use medium/high preset then bump up the texture, plenty of headroom for vram I've been doing that since Crysis decades ago. They always slide in some useless settings that cripple gpu with ultra/max preset and its a chore to figure out which one.
The fact the 4070 Super only gets 12gb of VRAM is the only thing that makes me alittle sad about getting it, its perfect right now and I love it but it should have gotten 16gb
Still enjoying my TUF 3060, without any real reason to upgrade... Had a cheap 3080 on hand, but I flipped it for money, since 3060 does so well at such a low power consumption
Y'all don't be sleeping on LSFG. I have AMD and have been using it. Any single player game being played with controller(Alan Wake 2 right now for me) it works well to smooth out the experience quite a lot.
Are you sure that your fps counter actually counts the frames generated by dlss FG? Some fps counters have this issue and this could explain why, in some cases, it seems that fsr3fg works way better than dlssfg on the 4060
Bought a 3060 12gb in the middle of the 'pandemic'/gpu shortage for 470 euro, while they where going for 800-1000 euro's. Even though i swapped it for a 4070 16gb, i never had any regrets, the 3060 served me very well for years and is still in my secondary pc.
highest settings is silly there will always be some dumb settings that cripple gpu for no good reason so newbs would think they need to buy more expensive gpu
People criticize nvidia for sticking with 8gb even in the 50 series, but i think at this point, they should, because otherwise devs might move on from supporting 8gb cards and it's disastrous for many nvidia users, a problem that was caused by nvidia, sure, but i think they have to at least do one more generation with 60 series having 8gb of vram and 70 series having 12, plus devs are typically lazy and they would use more vram if it was available to them if it decreases the need to optimize
A Xbox series S and PS4 have the same amount of memory of a 4060 Ti, a GPU that costs +400€ and PS5 has 16GB. That would be like if the GTX 960 or 1060 launched with 512Mb of VRAM. Were not talking about optmization, devs have had access to 8GB RAM for decades, VRAM isn't dev lazyness it's corporate greed from Nvidia.
Ill build my first PC bro, are AMD GPUs only good at gaming? I'm confused when faced with the choice of 4060, 3060 or 6600, some people say Nvidia is better in drivers and software, and performs better in 3D rendering blender others said that AMD gpu is slower and sometimes crashed the rendering session what do you think I'm confused because gaming is not the only activity I use a computer for i absolutely choose amd if i use my computer all day for gaming
@@manukjedar They're not as stable due to poor drivers, and lack of features like DLSS, and Frame Generation. I would never choose an AMD GPU today, they can't compete with Nvidia at all nowadays, and it shows in their market share. Nvidia holds more of the market share, and also has a bigger team working on their GPUs, so their drivers and features are a lot better. They also receive driver support for longer which is important if you want to keep the GPU for a long time. Basically, if you want a stable GPU that'll last you a long time, go with Nvidia. Don't listen to people who say AMD GPUs are better. They use to be on par with Nvidia years ago, but have since fallen off when AMD took over ATI.
I do think the 4060 Ti 16gb is the true successor to the 3060 12gb. If that launched near the $330 msrp of the 3060 then it would have been a great product 😅
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 typically nvidia hasn’t really kept previous gen cards around at a discount. On the used market, sure. Hopefully we just get a proper 5060. 4070 performance at $300ish.
Still one of the dumbest generational replacement ever I am still holding my breath but I fear that the next gen will be another huge disappointment across the board.
Its a great video but with one sticking point when he says 40fps feels good on a VRR display but 95% of VRR panels have a VRR range of 48Hz and Up, so 40Hz isnt in the VRR range, causing the Vsync judder effect. Many youtubers seem to forget this and give bad advice on 40Hz caps. Other than that bit, its a great video.
No, most vrr displays will go into low framerate compensation mode below 48hz so if it hits 40, the monitor will run at 80 and display each frame twice, staying in sync.
@@danielowentech But most dont thats the thing, as I said, lots of panels sold out of the hundreds available still shudder under 48Hz, so many panels exist that do not have LFC, some do but its not the majority of models. LFC is a godsend feature, but the monitors people (normies) buy, most dont have it as a feature. You can literally check most models sold at any time, its pretty clear. People should always check when purcasing a monitor of course, as with anything, but LFC isnt as common as people would hope, and 40Hz looks bad in those circumstances. Daniel could have mentioned his 40Hz statement is because LFC and I wouldn't have even commented.
I'm an architecture student and I'm also torn between the RTX 3060 12GB and the RTX 4060 8GB. I prefer the 3060 because of its VRAM, which makes it more future-proof. However, most benchmarks indicate that the 4060 is faster. I'm undecided whether to choose slightly slower rendering times but more future-proofing or faster rendering times with potential difficulties handling larger projects.
why can't people see or accept the truth clearly truth is 4060 more energy saving latest technology better gaming experience all you knows but It is said that we see what we want to see
Remember, the 3060 was released with 12GB of VRAM several months after the 3080 and 3070 were criticized for having too little VRAM. In previous generations, did a lower level Nvidia card ever have more VRAM than a higher level card in the same series? Has it ever happened since the 3060? Nvidia probably meant to release the 3060 as a 6GB card, like the 2060. If it had, this comparison would have a completely different outcome.
Seeing the 4060 loose out because of low Vram really shows what a company Nvidia is. The one feature they talked about being exclusive to these cards don't even run on the GPU. AMD already gave up, it's time for Intel to take over.
@@einstien2409 You are confused. They only delivered delays, cancellations and disappointments so far. How do you expect them to take over? I'd be already surprised if they could finally catch up to 4 year old RDNA2.
@@nipa5961 I don't know what universe you live in but I wish you live a happy one because in this universe the Arc GPUs are already ahead of RDNA 2 in terms of raw performance and RDNA 4 in terms of ray tracing. RDNA 4 isn't even out. Battle mage will probably keep their lead in ray tracing and tech like frame gen and upscaling.
@@donmillion8740 Возможно, вас устраивает скорость 120 кадров в секунду в игре десятилетней давности, но если я куплю графический процессор за 400 долларов в 2023 году, я ожидаю, что он будет запускать игры 2024 года с разрешением 1080p и частотой 60+ кадров в секунду.
In call of duty, selecting the basic setting , turns down render resolution as well. So, the actual competitive settings is basic + render resolution set to 100%.
Nvidia with the 5000 series I bet:
"So you're saying 8GB is enough. 8GB again it is!"
Nah 5060 will have 7.5 GB of vram just to piss people of while the last 0.5 GB will be slower like it was on the GTX 970 :)
Fuck Nvidia.
"No, memory bus doesn't affect performance"
Nvidia: Alright then, we give 96-bit this time around. 🤣
@@Jakiyyyyy 64 is enough, my 6500XT can show you that, AMD know even better
@@Jakiyyyyy when 3 and 4GB GDDR7 chips release, you can be sure AMD will release a 32-bit memory bus GPU 🤣
You’d expect a 4060 to be better in every way than a 3060 rather than a little better with occasions where it’s a lot worse.
Hey 3% is 3%
@@bumperxx1Like Jensen Huang says ‘The more you buy, the more you save.’ By which he means ‘just buy a 4090 you f*cking peasants!’ 😂
Not everyone is playing this much graphic intensive AAA TITLES
@its_not_the_Ishu it was a joke 😃 anyone with a 3060 should wait for a 5060 or something else. But if they are still running 1080p 60hertz then ride it till it dies
The sad part is when you realize this uplift was one of the _better_ ones of the generation. Look at the 3060ti>4060ti or 6800xt>7800xt. Many cards gave pathetic uplift or got price hikes that made them an even _worse_ value. Even with price drops there's nothing that stands out and even the best case scenarios can't muster up better than "well I guess it's not _that_ bad."
AMD and Nvidia were perfectly happy for decades making 25-30% margins. Neither them or their shareholders want to go back now after enjoying the 50-60% margins of the crypto boom.
the naming of nvidia gpus is a scam, its actually a 4050 vs 3060, and if you keep that in mind, the performance that we see, makes way more sense unlike nvidas pricing
@@__-fi6xg Radeons naming this gen is also a scam. They have 70 and 80 class competitors with 90 class naming.
@@Sp3cialk304 Amd flopping all over. Rx 7600 shouldn't even exist but they wanted you to waste money, They could have offered from the rx 7700/rx 7700xt 16gb at 300$ the rx 7800xt at 399$ the rx 7900gre at 450$ the rx 7900xt at 599$ the rx 7900xtx at 699$, And amd would have won this generation easily and made tons of money but decided to prioritize money.
@@jasonvors1922 I like AMD but I think they spend to much time listening to the vocal minority. Rdna2 was good, but refusing to modernize rdna3 was a bad idea. The vast majority of gamers care more about modern features and how they actually play the game than raster only native benchmarks
Both AMD & Nvidia did sandbag & downgrade this current gen! maybe things will be better on next gen will see!
you have it the other way around. The vast majority have no clue what all those "features" (gimmicks) are @@Sp3cialk304
It is the 4050 actually they're just ripping you off for 300 bucks
This gen has bad naming. The 60 series cards from both compaines should be 50 cards. Radeon has 70 class cards with 80 and 90 class naming.
funny enough the 4050 exists on laptops but if you cant go for 299 of the 4060, your only option is the 3050 6gb at 190. Greedvidia.
You can apply this too with the Rx 7800xt and 6800xt. Both have very small difference in performance. Techpowerup even has the rx 6800xt leading over the 7800xt in horizon forbidden west.
What?
@@adlibconstitution1609 Not really. The 7800XT came at a much lower price point.
The 4060 came at almost the price but even with less memory.
The 3060 was a 1440p card, but with the 4060 you only get a 1080p card and still have to lower textures.
Fact that we are still comparing 3060 vs 4060(50) in 2024 is another proof how shyte is 40 series and particulary it's pricing.
Compare the 2060 to the 3060.
It not shit really, i can confirm the power to performance is insane on the 40xx series cards, it all depends on what you upgrading from. In my case i had a rtx 2060 then upgraded to a rtx 4070 super. Basically was a 130% increase in performance but if you have a 30xx series card i would suggest wating for new cards to come rather. All i can say is the 4070 super is a beast and even though it was not meant for 4k gaming i can play 80% of the AAA titles on 4k med/high settings and still hit +-60fps. So for me was money well spent.
@@eltonwaynewilliams4152 Exactly, none of these trolls compare the 2060 to the 3060🤣🤣
It’s sad that 4060 ti is kind of the default 4060.
@@eltonwaynewilliams4152
Upgraded from 2060 6gb to rx 6800 16gb and never looked back in ngreedia direction.
Nvidia made the 4090 to keep the performance lead and mindshare but reduced the die size of all the other models to save up capacity for AI chips. 4080 is 40% smaller than 3080, 4070 is 25% smaller, 4060 is 40% smaller. The 4090 is just 3% smaller than the 3090.
that's an information that i didn't know about
And yet the 4080 and 4070 still blow their predecessors away, whereas the 4060 doesn't.
Bruh, they're using a different process entirely. 4000 series doesn't use the Samsung 8nm series they had in the 3000 series, this time they're using TSMC's 4nm process nodes. There's a lot wrong with the lower end rtx 4000 series but that's just not a way to compare this.
The 3060 getting 90 FPS at Very high settings while the 4060 is getting 30 FPS with frame generation is hilarious. Now I see why Nvidia blocked frame gen on 3000 series gpu's... Thank you AMD!
It's a famous phrase, the more you buy, the more you save.
Daniel, are those thumps your kids knocking at the front door repeatedly because they can’t get in 😅😂🤣😅😂🤣
Lol! I record in the basement and there are hardwood floors directly above me in the living room where the kids like to play.
@danielowentech It's fine, as a father of two I can say kids playing are one of the things it's worth living for, a bit of stumping won't ruin the video if the content is interesting 😊
4070 should've been the entry level. I went from 3060 to a 4070 super. Very happy with that upgrade.
yes me to asus 3060 phoenix to a asus 4070 super oc evo
Its people like you who upgrade after 1 generation using max settings that drives the prices up and complain lol.
@@nickwu4384 what? New gen games are fast unreal enginge 5 does not love 3060 and games like horizon for b west hell blade enz enz settings to medium then is time for a new gpu . 1050 ti was long time good now useles
4070 is better.
@@hardstylboy You don’t have to play the latest games.
It is clear that even for an entry level GPU at 1080p, only 8 Go VRAM is not acceptable anymore to the play the latest games if we want a true 60 fps with decent 1% low.
To be fair you need to keep in mind GPUs take years to design and Nvidia is surely deep into the designs on the generation _after_ 50 series. No one was crying about 8gb of vram back when these were designed because no games needed it without cranking it to 4k that none of these were ever designed for. But still they really _should_ have been planning ahead better.
@@zodwraith5745 It was clearly planned... the fact the 3060 had 12GB ram on a 192bit bus, what nVidia decided to do was using only GDDR6X memory so 8GB on a 128bit bus. If they used slower GDDR6 memory but 12GB on 192bit bus. It's planned obsolescence there is ZERO excuse for such practices!!! Nvidia knew this after all they work closely with a lot of the developers they KNEW THIS WAS COMING!
@@zodwraith5745 Issue is 3060 has 192-bit bus and 12gb GDDR6 VRAM. It is 1440p card then now 4060 has 8gb 128-bit bus which was in 3050 8gb.
They made each card 30% faster, But instead of passing that to customers. They decided to rip off and make everything cheaper for them.
It's 2024, Consoles have 16gb shared vram. So on PC, you'll need 12gb vram and >20gb ram to match.
@@Dazzxp I love how you clowns act like it's a personal attack on you when Nvidia shorts you on vram, but magically pretend that AMD didn't do the exact same thing with the 7600, 6600, and even _worse_ with the 6500xt and 6400. After all, THEY KNEW THIS WAS COMING!!1! RIGHT?!
GTFO with your fake outrage for a card you had zero intentions to buy in the first place.
@@Dazzxp why put 12 GB in ram if it can't handle games to the maximum... in some cases, with certain games that require a lot of virtual memory even at the minimum, it's good, but I don't know what the graphics performance will be
I just bought a 4060 Dual OC to fit into a Mini Itx build for my son and it runs really well @ 1080p. He only plays Fortnite, Destiny 2 etc and gets consistently 144 + frames with high settings. The games look good and are smooth on his 144hz monitor. And, the card runs very cool, is whisper quiet, and draws little power. Yeah, it isn't what it should be but it works well.
Still your kid also play really low needed gpu games, even my 1660 super run them in high 1080p
The 4060 was basically made for fortnite, and other online shooters, 8GB VRAM won't allow for proper frame generation, you can still use RT on 8GB's but some games will do horrible texture swaps and some others drop significant FPS, DLSS helps a little, unless on performance, and FG doesn't do much cause 8GB won't let it properly
The 3060, isn't much slower, and AMD FG saves the GPU when it struggles, also amazing RT performance, a lot of VRAM headroom over 8GB cards, so a lot safer, Path Tracing ultra with DLSA Balanced on CP2077 gives at least 30 FPS, with FSR3 FG it goes at least +50 FPS, and it doesn't look that bad, unless you are very sensitive to high FPS and notice the littlw ghosting effects, but that ain't going to knock you out or hurt the eye.
Even the 30FPS on Path Tracing look so good and its so smooth that it won't feel like 30 FPS
But the 4060 could give a considerable difference in high FPS shooters
Everything's fine on 4060 unless Nvidia FG
The 4060 Ti 16GB works excellent in terms of Frame Generation
Definitely perfect for those games, no need to have anything more.
It's is almost half power draw comparing 3060. Perfect for itx builds especially low profile version of 4060.
Upgrade from 750 ti, I found Colorful 12 GB rtx 3060 Triple fan in the used marked at just 17k INR, bought it instantly. I was a little sceptical about not buying a 40 series for its better Frame generation abilities. Hardly did I know even FG needs vRam too.
Best decision ever.
I could have gone with 3060 ti but it was 8 GB.
Having a blast with my 3060
Better Decision!
Extremely informative thank you much better than the typical split screen comparison you typically see in youtube.
I kinda feel scammed that reviewers said 3 years ago 8 gb vram would be enough for non-4k gaming.
It doesn't need more approval. Just Last of Us alone already proved it more games will be VRAM demanding like that in the future but people are still ignorant. 🤷🏻♀️
Hardware unboxed said it will be an issue in a couple years when talking about 3070 vs 6800
8:10 this is soooo the 4050 Nvidia isn't even ashamed
@@davidfg2917 250 bucks and less would've been fair, 200 now that's a bargain for 8gb vram and entry level
@@davidfg2917 "The More You Buy, The More You Save"
@@KN-592 You can get a 4060 for $200 dollars. Daniel and other tech youtubers other than the Toasty Bros don't understand the concept of looking for a bargain at a local shop.
4060 even has the chip with xx107 naming, that used in xx50 cards.
@@skeleton0_067 based
I told people if you want want almost max settings 1080p in modern games you need more than 8gb for most modern games. We are finally in the gaming era of pushing games to need more than 8gb while barely noticing the beefed up graphics 😅
and guess what, most likely the 5060 will feature 8gb of vram as well
I remember gtx 1060 6gb having troubles with witcher 3 max settings. Honestly shilling nvidia is dumb, but idk what people expect from a XX60 gpu. "It should've been 200$" yeah no shit, I'd prefer it to be 100$, but that's just not how it is or ever was.
4060 is capable of running 1440p high with DLSS (which in this resolution has no more visual artifacts than just TAA, if not less), is it really considered bad?
Ya I can't even run cyberpunk maxed out with a 6600xt since 2.0.....uses more than 8gb of vram. And that's with no rt.
About time!
The thing is the most graphically advanced game up to date - Hellblade 2 - does not need more than 8GB of VRAM. While much older games, like Horizon FW (2022) or Ghost of Tsushima (2020) somehow need more than 8GB of VRAM.
Why do these older games are using VRAM less effectively?
It’d be nice if people started showing some 4k in low or medium settings as the 6750xt does 4k good in some games and considering it’s the 4060 competition it would be nice to see (we know the 6750xt is better than the 4060) not everyone wants a 4k @ 120fps set ups, some people are fine at 30-60 fps especially if they come from consoles at a budget
Nobody with 4k is buy low end GPU my friend. I had a cool 😎 1070 with 8gb got a new LG oled 48inc Cx gsyinc tried Games like control and cyberpunk and call duty and the card tanked. 23fps 30fps low settings it's just not going to work.
And another thing if you're fine with 30 fps to 60 FPS that's garbage I don't see past 60 FPS well you know what buddy get a real 120 and I guarantee you see your mouse move better in fact I would argue 165 should be the goal because you're not going to notice much difference between 120 and 165 but for the price you can get into a nice monitor at 165
@@bumperxx1 I have a graphics card that can do 4k perfectly fine I’m talking about those who want an entry 4k experience. My 2nd pc does it just fine on my LG oled. I’m busy enjoying the gameplay than focusing on fps like everyone else.
@stevegonzales527 yeah but eye candy 🍬 cost you frams and hertz so in 4k you don't want 30fps or some crap 60 fps should be standard.
4k low settings is such an oxymoron. Why the fuck would you want to make the image sharper by removing detail? Thats super retarded.
If your budget is £300 then these are the two options you have from Nvidia, 4060 or 3060. 4060 looks okay but then you realise it has on 8GB VRAM and then you look over to the 12GB 3060 but you have to sacrifice DLSS/FG and power if you want to go with that one, for me what saved the day - the best option imo - £300 for a brand new RX 6750 XT and you get the 12GB VRAM and faster performance than both the 3060 and 4060.
@ $300, Arc 770 is also in your price range and has 16GB of RAM. Just need to make sure the games you want to play work on it.
@@glenndoiron9317if you buy a graphics card you should expect all games to play on it otherwise why are you buying a graphics card
Okay that's great I'm glad you chose a 6750 XT but what monitor and CPU do you have again everyone is saying buy this for this price buy that for that price what is your system Jesus freaking Christ it's like I heard the other day a 7700k Skylake chip is still good no it's not but it works for my 1080p okay yeah great 60 FPS so again what did you pair with that graphics card CPU RAM and monitor
And also you lose DLSS. 🤣
@@Jakiyyyyy yeah dlss 3.0
Overall, I'd still rather have the 4060, but I would recommend waiting for an upgrade for those with a 3060. The upgradability is just too weak at that level.
I have no gpu but seems like a bad time to buy anything...
@@Zombie1012080ti. A beast that can even be modded until 20gb~ it's 200-300$ used for me. Basically 3070 but has more vram
@@swilleh_2080ti is underrated in my opinion, with or without being modded it’s a really good gpu for its price.
@@exocleats6937except you should avoid Turing because of dying VRAM chips (unless you can find one cheap enough where you can pay for new chips)
why would you buy a 4060, you get all the nvidia advantages with the 3060. Its the best nvidia card for the last 2 generations.
The 12 vram is what sold me (I am a VR gamer)
BRO ARE YOU SERIOUS I AM LITERALLY RESEARCHING THESE 2 AGAIN OMG THE TIMING, THIS IS PERFECT. (i swear if you are about to make a video about 3060 ti vs 4060...)
3060ti destroys the 4060. If you can access a 3060ti or 3070 both completely invalidate the 4060 and cost less used.
3060 becoming with every year better and better buy because it was always targeting mid/high settings and that vram helps it to achive that
The 3060 rarely uses its VRAM.
3060 is the new 1060
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Indeed this thing won't die soon and will be relevent for ages ahead
Kurumi ❤
@@S10hype araa araa
19:42
The 4060 is not loading ultra textures. Its hard to notice graphically on youtube but its evident in the vram usage discrepancy, thats more than 3GB difference.
@@lanelesic That's how Avatar handle vram. It doesn't remove anything from the allocated vram pool until it has to. So it reports high allocation but isn't actually using all of it. RDR2 will do the same thing, you can get it to show over 16gb of vram allocation at 1440p, but it's not using close to that.
@@Sp3cialk304 you will still experience horrible 1% lows tough
@@__-fi6xg you don't
@@Sp3cialk304 The premade benchmark doesnt take into account players agency. That aggressive usage/ allocation method would show up in gameplay as microstutters and frametime spikes.
@@lanelesic read the conclusion of Techpowerups Avatar performance review. The way they word it may be easier to grasp. It's similar to mip mapping. It won't hurt performance and the difference in detail would be on super far away assets, where you don't have enough pixels display the difference anyway. Basically how nanite works for poly count, but with textures. If you had a huge screen and higher resolution than current cards could run you may be able to see a difference, but currently you can't because 2 pixels can't occupy the same spot anyway.
I work at a computer store & 4060 sell like hotcakes.
the majority of casual buyers don't care about youtubers opinion. they always buy new products from nvidia, just like iphone lol
Even if it's worse like
From iPhone 13 Pro Max
To iPhone 14 Plus
Thats exactly the problem, not lack of competition, this - the casual buyers.
@@peterkolesar4020 How is that exactly a problem? isn't that why we have tier lists for gpus? entry, midrange and enthusiast/high-end? You can't really fault them if they don't have the time of day to learn about advantages and disadvantages, they see exciting and advanced features like dlss, dlaa and ray tracing and it's all in one entry level gpu, and they will feel they spent their money wisely. If AMD can generate excitement over fsr instead of everyone praising their rasterization which not a lot of casual people know or care about since they think the Nvidia features will make up for all of that, then more people will feel at ease instead of feeling that they're taking a risk choosing AMD over Nvidia because most of the people I've read on Reddit say they only enjoyed AMD because they took the risk instead of it being their first choice pick.
Thank you for the great comparison. You provided just enough detail and did not go too deep into the weeds. Exactly what I needed. Great job 👍🏼
Dan can you make a 3060ti vs 4060ti version of this video 🙏
It'll be the same thing as this video, just a little higher fps.
@@pf100andahalf nope. The 3060Ti has only 8GB and there are 16GB versions of the 4060Ti
@@rob4222 well the 4060ti 16gb doesnt make any sense as the pricing nor the perfomance makes any sense to have 16gb
@@rob4222 The 4060 ti 16gb is faster when 8 gb isn't enough but it's still too expensive so basically worthless unless you can find one used. The 4060 ti 16gb is horrible value.
I have a 16 GB 4060ti and it's been great. I was very reluctant to buy it because of bad reviews and didn't want AMD. Coming from a GTX 1070 since 2016 it's been a huge upgrade. Horizon Forbidden West gets 120-150 fps with DLSS and Frame Gen @1080p. I tried using the new GPU with my old i7 6700k and it was a shit show. Went with a 12600k and DDR5 ram and I'm very happy.
Ohh great point at the start with those bad 1% lows linked to the vram limit, I hadn't seen it that clearly
Yeah if I had to pick one I would buy the 3060/12 over the 4060/8
@EveryGameGuru considering the price and how close these cards are in performance, I'd rather have the one with a more stable frame rate and frame time. Fps is only as good as it's stability.
4060 was never meant for 1440p gaming. Just saying. 🤷🏻♀️
Also I see games maxing out the 8gb vram even on 1080p, insane they only went for 8gb. 12 gb should be the standard.
@@Jakiyyyyy huh who said?
So glad I picked the rx6750xt last second over the rtx4060. Would have been looking like a clown in 2 years.😂
100%. A couple years ago my buddy was up for a GPU purchase and he was SURE he wanted a 3070 but I convinced him to get the 6700xt. In 2024.. he doesn't realize just how useful that add vram is with the latest games he plays on 1440p display. I hear no complaints like we hear with 8gb GPUs now. All hail the vram value king AMD! Shall they continue to thrive by providing what Nvidia fails to.
@@christophermullins7163hopefully nvidia release 50 series with bigger vram for xx70 lineup if not im switching side. (3070ti user here)
@@christophermullins7163 i would get amd but i dislike FSR shimmering and fsr3 is only in some games
Well again all these buying decisions I'm going to have to be made with regards to what monitor you're running and the technical specs of that monitor not to mention a CPU that won't bottleneck it. I hear people still have 7700 K Skylake chips that's not going to cut it with a modern GPU. Old but bumper 6 corse four threads is still cool 😢. I would love to see these graphics cards he's testing with 1080p 360 hertz you're not going to get it. I'm glad you convinced your friend to buy an AMD graphics card I just hope he didn't have like a g-sync monitor 175hertz of so you got something that wont get you high frams and hertz with that monotors spec. You're still not giving the details of his system what do you guys not understand about specific components to work with specific components
@@jayking33497 ok but for the same price you can get an amd gpu that doesnt require upscaling.. except RT.
Can you test the 6600 at 1440p with FSR/XeSS vs 1080 native?
I have a 4060 for 2 days now, had a 1070 the last 5 years. BO6 with my 1070 with extremly low settings 70 FPS, 4060 with DLSS and high settings 140 FPS FullHD. I´m happy, nothing comparable in a price range of 300 Euro
4060 = Still one of the worst graphics cards Nvidia has released.
why does everyone hate on it so much?
@@TtotheCizzel
3060 (2020) vs 4060 (2023)
Same performance. Lower Vram.
You overclock the 3060 and you get maybe another 10% over the 4060.
No intergenerational jump in performance. Rather the opposite.
That's why the 4060 is one of the worst cards.
The 4060 was supposed to be a 10GB RTX 3070.
4060 Ti says hi lol
The 4060 can be found for under 300 brand new that fits an old system with weaker cpu without changing the psu.
@@nickwu4384 that's what a 4050 is for.
Excellent comparison, love the various resolutions, settings and turning on dlss.
so basically
3060 for higher graphic +DLSS
4060 for higher fps+frame generation, set lower graphic under 8gb vram
Which one would be better for gta 6 considering the last two games like GTA 5 and RDR2 had ram, vram leak issues. Don't say none. Of course low medium settings or even high as it would be a story mode game so as long as FPS is stable and more than 30, it should be good. I recently bought one for my system as this is the best money can afford and can't get even 1$ (The price difference is 40-55$ BTW here) higher in budget considering 6000 series is rare here.
@@radger6392 i actually already played all those games causing issue for 8gb vram card on my vega 56 in 1440p, guess what? its not that big of a deal. This is not the era of 2gb vs 4gb where the game wont run at all.
You can just turn down textures/shadows from ultra to high and all those useless volumetric fog/cloud to medium and use dlssQ the vram will be way under 8gb and run smoothly and still look as good as ps5
12gb is nice to have but if you were to push all those graphic to ultra the fps gonna be low anyway. You will eventually find yourself playing on medium low settings for alan wake 2 to have that smooth gameplay
3060 vs 4060 each trade blows so its really up to you, but i guess i will go for 4060 for more fps and lower tdp at the same price.
Just go with which one have the best deal
@@loucipher7782 I think 10gb for both the GPUs would've been the best. Then nvidia would not have launched the 8gb version for the 3060 and hearing people cry about 4gb less vram for the 4060. But anyways I would've never bought the 3060 if the price difference wasn't 40-55$ and 6000 series (6600xt or higher) were readily available for the same price. I would've somehow forced them to my 550w PSU and ignored the bottleneck..maybe. I really don't mind ray tracing and stuff. But still was a big upgrade from rx 550 2gb
@@radger6392 i think its an architecture thing that made 10gb not possible or too expensive to produce. 6600xt is still 8gb 6700xt 12gb might be too much for your psu.
My vega 56 8gb is already 6 years old and i am still capable of playing all AAA titles at 1440p tho now down to High/Medium with fsrQ made it possible to squeeze a few more years out of it.
Anyway the best game on PC right now with 100++ hours content is Baldurs Gate 3 and it barely eat 6gb vram, also if you are into Jrpg like Persona it take even less vram and GTA6 for pc wont be release until 2026, 2027 for Steam. People is just crying wolf at the 4060 as AAA titles that break 8gb barely last over 10 hours play time, they are all linear game with lots of bling blings that can be turned down and still look amazing. 12gb is nice to have but not necessary for such a budget tier card
but i guess anything is better than a rx550 lol have fun gaming.
you are definetely wrong cus i played every game on max settings with 4060 also when you use dlss the vram usage decreases
2:12 What are you talking about? We can see there at max texture quality that Horizon doesn't consume more than 8 GBs of VRAM.
Just curious but why isn't background play available for members only videos. That's kinda strange imo
No idea! Seems like a big oversight if YT doesn't enable that. Not sure if that is something I have any control over on my end. I didn't change any settings other than publish this for Channel Members only.
@danielowentech all good just thought it was strange that it doesn't allow background watching or listening on member on videos. Everything else is fine. But none the less u keep doing u I love the way ur free in ur videos and don't care to do a video with ur kids running about. I'm a father myself so believe me I get it.
I love this haha. I hear the kids and I can picture them running around like my little ones do. Also the PnP of you pointing everything out at first I thought I might not like it but I actually prefer it now. Thanks for the video sir!
4060 is not bad if you aim for 1080p gaming with low watt usage and much cool temperature.
I'm new to pc building generally, but I've been taking in a ton of info over the last week or two and generally from what I can tell it's a crime against humanity that the 4060 didn't come with more VRAM
This is going to be interesting as the RTX 5060 is rumoured to only have 8GB of GDDR7.
GDR6 actually. What a waste!
What is good about GDDR7? Unless it has texture compression stuff then maybe 8GB would make sense. 🤷🏻♀️
@@Jakiyyyyy just higher memory bandwidth.
And the same shitty 128 bit memory bus the 4060 has...
14:40
how's on 1440p both cards show the same VRAM usage but the Ram usage on the 3060 is higher? I thought it's supposed to be the other way around
The Daniel mini-cursor pointer is OP!!
Upgraded from 1650 to 4060 8gb. Never been happier. Mostly playing games FPS and MOBA games competitively
I don't know why everyone hates 4060. For 1080p is on average 20% faster than 3060 and that it's all that matters. It's a 1080p gaming card at the end of the day. For higher resolutions one should aim for at least 4060ti and up
I think thsy don’t like the vram and the thing is people dont hate it, its just feels like unnecessary card its only decent for people getting a new build without previous pcs or a really outdated gpu
I really like the narrative. Its more helpful 😊👍
what if i dont have one, first time buying which should i choose? i can only fit dual fan in my pc case. I want to use it for rendering in sketchup and gaming for valorant only, also i want to pair it with ryzen 5 7600x.
Rendering need vram, so 3060
Aren't there more games that support Nvidia frame gen? It's the major selling point for the 4060 so we should test it and/or whether the VRAM is enough to do frame gen.
They just love bragging 4060 because less power consumption, but less vram memory than the predecessor 3060.. With 12gb vram memory
In the Avatar test, GPU memory usage on the 3060 goes way beyond 8GB, and yet the 4060 doesn't use more system RAM, which suggests to me that the game reduces some quality settings when not having enough RAM, rather than spill into CPU RAM. This might be the reason the 4060 has more of an advantage in this game over the 3060 compared to other games.
After wathcing the video i came to the cconclusion that greedvidia sucks. Save us intel, because amd never will.
The 4050 and it is a 4050 should be 200 and the 3060 12 gb should be 180 and the 3050 should be retired.
or call it the "3030"
Sooner or later, Intel is gonna catch up. 🤷🏻♀️
yeah well, this video is about the 4060 not the laptop 4050
@@-1solrak they are the same.
Keep up the good work!
I own both a n RTX 3060 12GB and an RTX 4060 8gb in my htpc gaming setups. I don’t use frame generation at 1080p/1440p (with RTX 4060) so I’m fine with using FSR frame generation ‘IF’ needed…… especially with FSR 3.1 coming out now in games and modders, I’m sure, adding tweaks for a drag n drop into older titles etc🤤🤯👍🥳.
Saying that it appears that newer game engines like UE5 uses vram more efficiently than older engines so maybe, just maybe, Nvidias ram skimping (8gb gpus) was known by them from initial engine testing for gpus 🧐😳?
Imo if you’re a gamer who uses a lot of texture mods etc on older games …. I’d go with the RTX 3060 12GB …..otherwise get the RTX 4060 for the added performance….. but that’s me 😁👍
you are objectively wrong. My gpu is using 10gb in most modern games, sometimes even over 12 like in RE 4 with raytracing and dlss in 2k. 8gb is definitely not enough for 1440p gaming, especially not with rt or any other nvidia feature that needs vram to run.
Cope harder. No one should buy the 4060 lol.
Ive noticed this too. The console port games seem to be the VRAM hogs. The UE5 games typically have very reasonable VRAM usage.
@@__-fi6xg I don’t use RT or FG on my lower end gpus which l assume your GPU Is notably stronger than these and can actually use these features (RT & FG). Anything requiring power I run on my RTX 4090 or RTX 3080 or RTX 4070.
@@ltg8382 yep I try when ever I can🥳😉. I’ll just game on either my RTX 3080, RTX 4070 or RTX 4090 when I actually want to use Ray tracing or Frame Generation.
Don't forget that the Operating System and more than one Monitor also use Vram!
It is funny how people complain about nvidia and still buy their products
lmao they don't have any choice !! 😂🤣
indeed. my last two gpus were amd . if you want change, you have to vote with your wallet.
Bingo
nobody complain about nvidia except amd shills
It's funny how people complain about Nvidia but magically ignore the 7600 is also only 8gb. Then when AMD makes the 7600xt and Nvidia the 4060ti 16gb people bitch cause they wanted special edition redesigns for free.
The amount of editing in each video is outstanding
yes i like the c2 and grid but the colors and models are abit too outdated, to be paired w raytracing lul
I have no VRAM and I must frame gen
With the price going crazy of : GPU , new unoptimized games and there needs for a very large ssd ..........a lot of people don't upgrade ther GPU and buy and play old games (bugs free , low price ..ex). Graet video and content .
I already bought the 4060 2 days ago. Whatever at least it draws less power and runs cs2 thats all i need anyways
Yeah it is up to your gaming needs. If you only play esports then it's enough
I just bought my 3060 12gb upgrade from rx 590. Pair with Ryzen5 5600. As we know 50series card will coming. Using this 3060 for 4-5years then will upgrade to 50series card in the future. 40series cards is great card but i would rather see 50series cards or AMD 8000 cards ❤.
Why is VRAM on 4060 smaller than older RTX 3060
Ngreedia
@@halistinejenkins5289 Average Mediocre Dogshit.
Because it would be better than 3070
Daniel, please test the Arc A770 against the 4060 Ti again.
Can you test the rx6750xt
Really odd you move your avatar around all the time just make it smaller and leave in the bottom left corner its really hard to know where we are supposed to be looking when things are darting around the screen
People who bought the 4060 got scammed into really buying the 4050
Bruh, even 2060 is better than 3050
4060 is better than 3060
19% stronger
Just enable your Nvidia Broadcast and crank up noise suppression or use Krisp to get rid of any background audio. I teach animation at colleges and when I'm doing my online classes, Nvidia Broadcast is my go-to. I've got cheetahs in the house and my neighbor is an opera singer - just saying.
i bought used 6800 xt for 250 usd a month ago, and absolutely run everything without stutter on max setting. I have 4060 before, and 6800 xt deliver a different level of experience compared to 4060. Even though 4060 have dlss and frame gen it still stutter because frame gen use even more vram to function, what a shame for nvidia here.
So let me get this straight you had a 4060 and then you went to the used market for a 6800 XT I mean what kind of monitor are you running and what kind of CPU do you have a lot of things are going to determine whether you're stuttering or not because you don't have the right parts of the other setup I just don't get it because these are other major components that you need to pair up properly with gpus it's not just buy something and shove it in
@@bumperxx1 5700x 32gb 3600mhz 1080p 165hz monitor (planning upgrade to 1440p). I'm playing forbidden west at the moment, 4060 can't even play at 1080p max setting without stutter let alone 1440p.
max settings is shit
they always have useless things that cripple gpu for no good reason lol
@@loucipher7782 I agree, but the texture quality is always should be maxed out. It doesn't cost a lot of performance if you have enough vram. 8gb definitely not enough for max texture at 1080p.
@@octechno749 just use medium/high preset then bump up the texture, plenty of headroom for vram
I've been doing that since Crysis decades ago. They always slide in some useless settings that cripple gpu with ultra/max preset and its a chore to figure out which one.
The fact the 4070 Super only gets 12gb of VRAM is the only thing that makes me alittle sad about getting it, its perfect right now and I love it but it should have gotten 16gb
same. just got a 4070 super as well, loving it a lot but the 12 gb of vram worries me about future proofing...
Still enjoying my TUF 3060, without any real reason to upgrade...
Had a cheap 3080 on hand, but I flipped it for money, since 3060 does so well at such a low power consumption
'cheap' 3080???
@@caliginousmoira8565 Yeah, way under average used price
Y'all don't be sleeping on LSFG. I have AMD and have been using it. Any single player game being played with controller(Alan Wake 2 right now for me) it works well to smooth out the experience quite a lot.
I'll just keep my 3060 ti and use lossless scaling for now
Are you sure that your fps counter actually counts the frames generated by dlss FG? Some fps counters have this issue and this could explain why, in some cases, it seems that fsr3fg works way better than dlssfg on the 4060
Why do people expect a 100% in performance each gen? Do they think Moores Law is still going or something?
complaining about complainers
@@paulyboy29 complaining about complainers complaining about complainers
@@nickwu4384 well thats definitely a comment nick
@@nickwu4384 complaining about complainers complaining about complainers complaining about complainers complaining about complainers
Bought a 3060 12gb in the middle of the 'pandemic'/gpu shortage for 470 euro, while they where going for 800-1000 euro's.
Even though i swapped it for a 4070 16gb, i never had any regrets, the 3060 served me very well for years and is still in my secondary pc.
4070 16GB?
@@vvhitevvizard_ he either meant 12GB or 4070 tie super
@@vvhitevvizard_ there is only one 4070 that has 16gb, meaning im talking about the 'ti super' by definition.
I don't think 4060 users will be running at the highest settings in a game!
highest settings is silly
there will always be some dumb settings that cripple gpu for no good reason so newbs would think they need to buy more expensive gpu
People criticize nvidia for sticking with 8gb even in the 50 series, but i think at this point, they should, because otherwise devs might move on from supporting 8gb cards and it's disastrous for many nvidia users, a problem that was caused by nvidia, sure, but i think they have to at least do one more generation with 60 series having 8gb of vram and 70 series having 12, plus devs are typically lazy and they would use more vram if it was available to them if it decreases the need to optimize
A Xbox series S and PS4 have the same amount of memory of a 4060 Ti, a GPU that costs +400€ and PS5 has 16GB. That would be like if the GTX 960 or 1060 launched with 512Mb of VRAM. Were not talking about optmization, devs have had access to 8GB RAM for decades, VRAM isn't dev lazyness it's corporate greed from Nvidia.
@@MrEditorsSideKick i agree, but now they have to stick to it, at least until next gen of consoles
in my country we called this 4060 8gb as the most joke GPU presented by Nvgreedy Huang...
Along with 4060 TI 8GB...
Wait until you see 5060 8GB... 🤷🏻♀️
@@Jakiyyyyy wait until you see that kind of bullshit again...
i think it doesnt make any sense to play those 60's cards at 1440p, just do what nvidea wants and play in 1080p
tldr: get a RX 6600, 6650XT or 6750XT and avoid Nvidia at all costs.
But then you have to deal with terrible drivers
@@chase7974 Yes, another reason to avoid Nvidia.
Ill build my first PC bro, are AMD GPUs only good at gaming? I'm confused when faced with the choice of 4060, 3060 or 6600, some people say Nvidia is better in drivers and software, and performs better in 3D rendering blender
others said that AMD gpu is slower and sometimes crashed the rendering session
what do you think
I'm confused because gaming is not the only activity I use a computer for
i absolutely choose amd if i use my computer all day for gaming
@@manukjedar They're not as stable due to poor drivers, and lack of features like DLSS, and Frame Generation. I would never choose an AMD GPU today, they can't compete with Nvidia at all nowadays, and it shows in their market share.
Nvidia holds more of the market share, and also has a bigger team working on their GPUs, so their drivers and features are a lot better. They also receive driver support for longer which is important if you want to keep the GPU for a long time.
Basically, if you want a stable GPU that'll last you a long time, go with Nvidia. Don't listen to people who say AMD GPUs are better. They use to be on par with Nvidia years ago, but have since fallen off when AMD took over ATI.
@@chase7974 so the option is 4060 or 3060? I'm still confused about which one for my long term first PC
As someone whos upgrading from a rtx 2060 6gb, which card is the better purchase in mind of the future too. Should I go 3060 12gb or 4060 8gb.
its just a big joke that 4060 is so bad in comparision to the 3060. Nvidia wont give us more gamingpower in the cheap segment in future
i had a 1660 super for 3 or 4 years and my 4060 comes in tomorrow :) but if i had a 3060 i would of wait until 5060 or 6060 to upgrade
I do think the 4060 Ti 16gb is the true successor to the 3060 12gb. If that launched near the $330 msrp of the 3060 then it would have been a great product 😅
its a very good card and will be the bang for buck after priced like regular 60 series, maybe when 5000 series came out
i mean around 280-300$
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 typically nvidia hasn’t really kept previous gen cards around at a discount. On the used market, sure. Hopefully we just get a proper 5060. 4070 performance at $300ish.
so for a new build, should i buy the 4060 or the 3060? Or else go amd? Please let me know what i should do
Still one of the dumbest generational replacement ever I am still holding my breath but I fear that the next gen will be another huge disappointment across the board.
Its a great video but with one sticking point when he says 40fps feels good on a VRR display but 95% of VRR panels have a VRR range of 48Hz and Up, so 40Hz isnt in the VRR range, causing the Vsync judder effect. Many youtubers seem to forget this and give bad advice on 40Hz caps.
Other than that bit, its a great video.
No, most vrr displays will go into low framerate compensation mode below 48hz so if it hits 40, the monitor will run at 80 and display each frame twice, staying in sync.
@@danielowentech But most dont thats the thing, as I said, lots of panels sold out of the hundreds available still shudder under 48Hz, so many panels exist that do not have LFC, some do but its not the majority of models. LFC is a godsend feature, but the monitors people (normies) buy, most dont have it as a feature. You can literally check most models sold at any time, its pretty clear.
People should always check when purcasing a monitor of course, as with anything, but LFC isnt as common as people would hope, and 40Hz looks bad in those circumstances. Daniel could have mentioned his 40Hz statement is because LFC and I wouldn't have even commented.
I remember when people were saying that the 3060 did not need 12 GBs of VRAM and it would go to waste. guess whose laughing now!
Очень знакомое чувство и с годами оно становится крепче xD
February 2021 is from a while ago now. The 2023 and 2024 games have really picked up the VRAM usage.
looking at the power consumption in rtx 4060 is crazy
4060scam
I'm an architecture student and I'm also torn between the RTX 3060 12GB and the RTX 4060 8GB. I prefer the 3060 because of its VRAM, which makes it more future-proof. However, most benchmarks indicate that the 4060 is faster. I'm undecided whether to choose slightly slower rendering times but more future-proofing or faster rendering times with potential difficulties handling larger projects.
6700XT vs 3060/4060 i bet AMD card will beat the crap out of them.
So I am guessing that the 3070, 3070 ti as well as the 3060 ti and the 4060 ti 8 gb all have studdering issues as well?
Nvidia is the type of company that makes their new product perform 2x times worse than its predecessor.😂😂😂 This is what lack of competition does.
The main problem with RTX 4060 is it's memory bus is just 128 bit. 8gb VRAM is ok for 1080p.
It has 24 meg of cache vs 3 to make up for that. It's fine.
why can't people see or accept the truth clearly truth is 4060 more energy saving latest technology better gaming experience all you knows but It is said that we see what we want to see
What
Remember, the 3060 was released with 12GB of VRAM several months after the 3080 and 3070 were criticized for having too little VRAM. In previous generations, did a lower level Nvidia card ever have more VRAM than a higher level card in the same series? Has it ever happened since the 3060? Nvidia probably meant to release the 3060 as a 6GB card, like the 2060. If it had, this comparison would have a completely different outcome.
115 watt on 4060 vs 180 watt on 3060
Do your math.
Playing games at Max is only for high End GPU not a entry level GPU.
i am exactly looking at these 2 cards to buy
should be a 4050
You must be having fun editing yourself moving around to point out things lol
Nice video tho
Seeing the 4060 loose out because of low Vram really shows what a company Nvidia is. The one feature they talked about being exclusive to these cards don't even run on the GPU. AMD already gave up, it's time for Intel to take over.
Intel gave up in Q1 2022.
@@nipa5961 Yea which is why they changed the whole architecture of their Xe GPU. We got ourselves a genius here boys. You must cure cancer.
@@einstien2409 You are confused. They only delivered delays, cancellations and disappointments so far. How do you expect them to take over? I'd be already surprised if they could finally catch up to 4 year old RDNA2.
@@nipa5961 I don't know what universe you live in but I wish you live a happy one because in this universe the Arc GPUs are already ahead of RDNA 2 in terms of raw performance and RDNA 4 in terms of ray tracing. RDNA 4 isn't even out. Battle mage will probably keep their lead in ray tracing and tech like frame gen and upscaling.
@@donmillion8740 Возможно, вас устраивает скорость 120 кадров в секунду в игре десятилетней давности, но если я куплю графический процессор за 400 долларов в 2023 году, я ожидаю, что он будет запускать игры 2024 года с разрешением 1080p и частотой 60+ кадров в секунду.
In call of duty, selecting the basic setting , turns down render resolution as well. So, the actual competitive settings is basic + render resolution set to 100%.