@its_not_the_Ishu it was a joke 😃 anyone with a 3060 should wait for a 5060 or something else. But if they are still running 1080p 60hertz then ride it till it dies
The sad part is when you realize this uplift was one of the _better_ ones of the generation. Look at the 3060ti>4060ti or 6800xt>7800xt. Many cards gave pathetic uplift or got price hikes that made them an even _worse_ value. Even with price drops there's nothing that stands out and even the best case scenarios can't muster up better than "well I guess it's not _that_ bad." AMD and Nvidia were perfectly happy for decades making 25-30% margins. Neither them or their shareholders want to go back now after enjoying the 50-60% margins of the crypto boom.
You can apply this too with the Rx 7800xt and 6800xt. Both have very small difference in performance. Techpowerup even has the rx 6800xt leading over the 7800xt in horizon forbidden west.
@@adlibconstitution1609 Not really. The 7800XT came at a much lower price point. The 4060 came at almost the price but even with less memory. The 3060 was a 1440p card, but with the 4060 you only get a 1080p card and still have to lower textures.
It not shit really, i can confirm the power to performance is insane on the 40xx series cards, it all depends on what you upgrading from. In my case i had a rtx 2060 then upgraded to a rtx 4070 super. Basically was a 130% increase in performance but if you have a 30xx series card i would suggest wating for new cards to come rather. All i can say is the 4070 super is a beast and even though it was not meant for 4k gaming i can play 80% of the AAA titles on 4k med/high settings and still hit +-60fps. So for me was money well spent.
Gee, that 150 FPS at 1440p in Callisto Protocol on a 4070 Super sure is terrible isn't it? Mid range cards and people are surprised they always give mid range performance. What a shock.
the naming of nvidia gpus is a scam, its actually a 4050 vs 3060, and if you keep that in mind, the performance that we see, makes way more sense unlike nvidas pricing
@@Sp3cialk304 Amd flopping all over. Rx 7600 shouldn't even exist but they wanted you to waste money, They could have offered from the rx 7700/rx 7700xt 16gb at 300$ the rx 7800xt at 399$ the rx 7900gre at 450$ the rx 7900xt at 599$ the rx 7900xtx at 699$, And amd would have won this generation easily and made tons of money but decided to prioritize money.
@@jasonvors1922 I like AMD but I think they spend to much time listening to the vocal minority. Rdna2 was good, but refusing to modernize rdna3 was a bad idea. The vast majority of gamers care more about modern features and how they actually play the game than raster only native benchmarks
Nvidia made the 4090 to keep the performance lead and mindshare but reduced the die size of all the other models to save up capacity for AI chips. 4080 is 40% smaller than 3080, 4070 is 25% smaller, 4060 is 40% smaller. The 4090 is just 3% smaller than the 3090.
Bruh, they're using a different process entirely. 4000 series doesn't use the Samsung 8nm series they had in the 3000 series, this time they're using TSMC's 4nm process nodes. There's a lot wrong with the lower end rtx 4000 series but that's just not a way to compare this.
The 3060 getting 90 FPS at Very high settings while the 4060 is getting 30 FPS with frame generation is hilarious. Now I see why Nvidia blocked frame gen on 3000 series gpu's... Thank you AMD!
@danielowentech It's fine, as a father of two I can say kids playing are one of the things it's worth living for, a bit of stumping won't ruin the video if the content is interesting 😊
@@nickwu4384 what? New gen games are fast unreal enginge 5 does not love 3060 and games like horizon for b west hell blade enz enz settings to medium then is time for a new gpu . 1050 ti was long time good now useles
It is clear that even for an entry level GPU at 1080p, only 8 Go VRAM is not acceptable anymore to the play the latest games if we want a true 60 fps with decent 1% low.
To be fair you need to keep in mind GPUs take years to design and Nvidia is surely deep into the designs on the generation _after_ 50 series. No one was crying about 8gb of vram back when these were designed because no games needed it without cranking it to 4k that none of these were ever designed for. But still they really _should_ have been planning ahead better.
@@zodwraith5745 It was clearly planned... the fact the 3060 had 12GB ram on a 192bit bus, what nVidia decided to do was using only GDDR6X memory so 8GB on a 128bit bus. If they used slower GDDR6 memory but 12GB on 192bit bus. It's planned obsolescence there is ZERO excuse for such practices!!! Nvidia knew this after all they work closely with a lot of the developers they KNEW THIS WAS COMING!
@@TtotheCizzel 3060 (2020) vs 4060 (2023) Same performance. Lower Vram. You overclock the 3060 and you get maybe another 10% over the 4060. No intergenerational jump in performance. Rather the opposite. That's why the 4060 is one of the worst cards. The 4060 was supposed to be a 10GB RTX 3070.
I just bought a 4060 Dual OC to fit into a Mini Itx build for my son and it runs really well @ 1080p. He only plays Fortnite, Destiny 2 etc and gets consistently 144 + frames with high settings. The games look good and are smooth on his 144hz monitor. And, the card runs very cool, is whisper quiet, and draws little power. Yeah, it isn't what it should be but it works well.
100%. A couple years ago my buddy was up for a GPU purchase and he was SURE he wanted a 3070 but I convinced him to get the 6700xt. In 2024.. he doesn't realize just how useful that add vram is with the latest games he plays on 1440p display. I hear no complaints like we hear with 8gb GPUs now. All hail the vram value king AMD! Shall they continue to thrive by providing what Nvidia fails to.
Well again all these buying decisions I'm going to have to be made with regards to what monitor you're running and the technical specs of that monitor not to mention a CPU that won't bottleneck it. I hear people still have 7700 K Skylake chips that's not going to cut it with a modern GPU. Old but bumper 6 corse four threads is still cool 😢. I would love to see these graphics cards he's testing with 1080p 360 hertz you're not going to get it. I'm glad you convinced your friend to buy an AMD graphics card I just hope he didn't have like a g-sync monitor 175hertz of so you got something that wont get you high frams and hertz with that monotors spec. You're still not giving the details of his system what do you guys not understand about specific components to work with specific components
@@KN-592 You can get a 4060 for $200 dollars. Daniel and other tech youtubers other than the Toasty Bros don't understand the concept of looking for a bargain at a local shop.
I told people if you want want almost max settings 1080p in modern games you need more than 8gb for most modern games. We are finally in the gaming era of pushing games to need more than 8gb while barely noticing the beefed up graphics 😅
I remember gtx 1060 6gb having troubles with witcher 3 max settings. Honestly shilling nvidia is dumb, but idk what people expect from a XX60 gpu. "It should've been 200$" yeah no shit, I'd prefer it to be 100$, but that's just not how it is or ever was. 4060 is capable of running 1440p high with DLSS (which in this resolution has no more visual artifacts than just TAA, if not less), is it really considered bad?
The thing is the most graphically advanced game up to date - Hellblade 2 - does not need more than 8GB of VRAM. While much older games, like Horizon FW (2022) or Ghost of Tsushima (2020) somehow need more than 8GB of VRAM. Why do these older games are using VRAM less effectively?
If your budget is £300 then these are the two options you have from Nvidia, 4060 or 3060. 4060 looks okay but then you realise it has on 8GB VRAM and then you look over to the 12GB 3060 but you have to sacrifice DLSS/FG and power if you want to go with that one, for me what saved the day - the best option imo - £300 for a brand new RX 6750 XT and you get the 12GB VRAM and faster performance than both the 3060 and 4060.
Okay that's great I'm glad you chose a 6750 XT but what monitor and CPU do you have again everyone is saying buy this for this price buy that for that price what is your system Jesus freaking Christ it's like I heard the other day a 7700k Skylake chip is still good no it's not but it works for my 1080p okay yeah great 60 FPS so again what did you pair with that graphics card CPU RAM and monitor
It’d be nice if people started showing some 4k in low or medium settings as the 6750xt does 4k good in some games and considering it’s the 4060 competition it would be nice to see (we know the 6750xt is better than the 4060) not everyone wants a 4k @ 120fps set ups, some people are fine at 30-60 fps especially if they come from consoles at a budget
Nobody with 4k is buy low end GPU my friend. I had a cool 😎 1070 with 8gb got a new LG oled 48inc Cx gsyinc tried Games like control and cyberpunk and call duty and the card tanked. 23fps 30fps low settings it's just not going to work.
And another thing if you're fine with 30 fps to 60 FPS that's garbage I don't see past 60 FPS well you know what buddy get a real 120 and I guarantee you see your mouse move better in fact I would argue 165 should be the goal because you're not going to notice much difference between 120 and 165 but for the price you can get into a nice monitor at 165
@@bumperxx1 I have a graphics card that can do 4k perfectly fine I’m talking about those who want an entry 4k experience. My 2nd pc does it just fine on my LG oled. I’m busy enjoying the gameplay than focusing on fps like everyone else.
I do think the 4060 Ti 16gb is the true successor to the 3060 12gb. If that launched near the $330 msrp of the 3060 then it would have been a great product 😅
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 typically nvidia hasn’t really kept previous gen cards around at a discount. On the used market, sure. Hopefully we just get a proper 5060. 4070 performance at $300ish.
@@rob4222 The 4060 ti 16gb is faster when 8 gb isn't enough but it's still too expensive so basically worthless unless you can find one used. The 4060 ti 16gb is horrible value.
I have a 16 GB 4060ti and it's been great. I was very reluctant to buy it because of bad reviews and didn't want AMD. Coming from a GTX 1070 since 2016 it's been a huge upgrade. Horizon Forbidden West gets 120-150 fps with DLSS and Frame Gen @1080p. I tried using the new GPU with my old i7 6700k and it was a shit show. Went with a 12600k and DDR5 ram and I'm very happy.
@@EveryGameGuru considering the price and how close these cards are in performance, I'd rather have the one with a more stable frame rate and frame time. Fps is only as good as it's stability.
@@richied5294 You would rather have slightly higher frames every 1/60th of a second, in two games, with VERY niche settings, than to have a higher overall average FPS, with all the features of 4000 series? Buy AMD 😆
Upgrade from 750 ti, I found Colorful 12 GB rtx 3060 Triple fan in the used marked at just 17k INR, bought it instantly. I was a little sceptical about not buying a 40 series for its better Frame generation abilities. Hardly did I know even FG needs vRam too. Best decision ever. I could have gone with 3060 ti but it was 8 GB. Having a blast with my 3060
Overall, I'd still rather have the 4060, but I would recommend waiting for an upgrade for those with a 3060. The upgradability is just too weak at that level.
BRO ARE YOU SERIOUS I AM LITERALLY RESEARCHING THESE 2 AGAIN OMG THE TIMING, THIS IS PERFECT. (i swear if you are about to make a video about 3060 ti vs 4060...)
This is HILARIOUS, especially the comments 😆 "The 4060 has lower 1% lows in two games, or when trying to play 1440p on a 1080p card" "The 3060 is better" 😆🤡
@@missk1697 Anyone with half a brain knows that the 50-60 tier is 1080p low/high. If you need someone to hold your hand when buying PC parts, you shouldn't be building a PC
It doesn't need more approval. Just Last of Us alone already proved it more games will be VRAM demanding like that in the future but people are still ignorant. 🤷🏻♀️
I own both a n RTX 3060 12GB and an RTX 4060 8gb in my htpc gaming setups. I don’t use frame generation at 1080p/1440p (with RTX 4060) so I’m fine with using FSR frame generation ‘IF’ needed…… especially with FSR 3.1 coming out now in games and modders, I’m sure, adding tweaks for a drag n drop into older titles etc🤤🤯👍🥳. Saying that it appears that newer game engines like UE5 uses vram more efficiently than older engines so maybe, just maybe, Nvidias ram skimping (8gb gpus) was known by them from initial engine testing for gpus 🧐😳? Imo if you’re a gamer who uses a lot of texture mods etc on older games …. I’d go with the RTX 3060 12GB …..otherwise get the RTX 4060 for the added performance….. but that’s me 😁👍
you are objectively wrong. My gpu is using 10gb in most modern games, sometimes even over 12 like in RE 4 with raytracing and dlss in 2k. 8gb is definitely not enough for 1440p gaming, especially not with rt or any other nvidia feature that needs vram to run.
@@__-fi6xg I don’t use RT or FG on my lower end gpus which l assume your GPU Is notably stronger than these and can actually use these features (RT & FG). Anything requiring power I run on my RTX 4090 or RTX 3080 or RTX 4070.
@@ltg8382 yep I try when ever I can🥳😉. I’ll just game on either my RTX 3080, RTX 4070 or RTX 4090 when I actually want to use Ray tracing or Frame Generation.
It's funny how people complain about Nvidia but magically ignore the 7600 is also only 8gb. Then when AMD makes the 7600xt and Nvidia the 4060ti 16gb people bitch cause they wanted special edition redesigns for free.
19:42 The 4060 is not loading ultra textures. Its hard to notice graphically on youtube but its evident in the vram usage discrepancy, thats more than 3GB difference.
@@lanelesic That's how Avatar handle vram. It doesn't remove anything from the allocated vram pool until it has to. So it reports high allocation but isn't actually using all of it. RDR2 will do the same thing, you can get it to show over 16gb of vram allocation at 1440p, but it's not using close to that.
@@Sp3cialk304 The premade benchmark doesnt take into account players agency. That aggressive usage/ allocation method would show up in gameplay as microstutters and frametime spikes.
@@lanelesic read the conclusion of Techpowerups Avatar performance review. The way they word it may be easier to grasp. It's similar to mip mapping. It won't hurt performance and the difference in detail would be on super far away assets, where you don't have enough pixels display the difference anyway. Basically how nanite works for poly count, but with textures. If you had a huge screen and higher resolution than current cards could run you may be able to see a difference, but currently you can't because 2 pixels can't occupy the same spot anyway.
I love this haha. I hear the kids and I can picture them running around like my little ones do. Also the PnP of you pointing everything out at first I thought I might not like it but I actually prefer it now. Thanks for the video sir!
After wathcing the video i came to the cconclusion that greedvidia sucks. Save us intel, because amd never will. The 4050 and it is a 4050 should be 200 and the 3060 12 gb should be 180 and the 3050 should be retired.
No idea! Seems like a big oversight if YT doesn't enable that. Not sure if that is something I have any control over on my end. I didn't change any settings other than publish this for Channel Members only.
@danielowentech all good just thought it was strange that it doesn't allow background watching or listening on member on videos. Everything else is fine. But none the less u keep doing u I love the way ur free in ur videos and don't care to do a video with ur kids running about. I'm a father myself so believe me I get it.
Ill build my first PC bro, are AMD GPUs only good at gaming? I'm confused when faced with the choice of 4060, 3060 or 6600, some people say Nvidia is better in drivers and software, and performs better in 3D rendering blender others said that AMD gpu is slower and sometimes crashed the rendering session what do you think I'm confused because gaming is not the only activity I use a computer for i absolutely choose amd if i use my computer all day for gaming
@@manukjedar They're not as stable due to poor drivers, and lack of features like DLSS, and Frame Generation. I would never choose an AMD GPU today, they can't compete with Nvidia at all nowadays, and it shows in their market share. Nvidia holds more of the market share, and also has a bigger team working on their GPUs, so their drivers and features are a lot better. They also receive driver support for longer which is important if you want to keep the GPU for a long time. Basically, if you want a stable GPU that'll last you a long time, go with Nvidia. Don't listen to people who say AMD GPUs are better. They use to be on par with Nvidia years ago, but have since fallen off when AMD took over ATI.
I work at a computer store & 4060 sell like hotcakes. the majority of casual buyers don't care about youtubers opinion. they always buy new products from nvidia, just like iphone lol
Aren't there more games that support Nvidia frame gen? It's the major selling point for the 4060 so we should test it and/or whether the VRAM is enough to do frame gen.
what if i dont have one, first time buying which should i choose? i can only fit dual fan in my pc case. I want to use it for rendering in sketchup and gaming for valorant only, also i want to pair it with ryzen 5 7600x.
highest settings is silly there will always be some dumb settings that cripple gpu for no good reason so newbs would think they need to buy more expensive gpu
Still one of the dumbest generational replacement ever I am still holding my breath but I fear that the next gen will be another huge disappointment across the board.
In most cases the 4060 is the better choice unless you play heavy single player games. Most people just play esport titles though which you can run on like 4gb vram lol. I think the 4060 gets too much hate
It's the opposite actually, because in e-sport games you are not going to run with dlss, meanwhile in single player games it makes sense due to input latency of frame gen even with Nvidia reflex. So in this budget segment 4060 is a scam
@@guilhermedecarvalhofernand1629 why would you use esports game in dlss lmao stop fronting the card aint that weak for esports games lmao battlefield 2042 runs at 120 fps without dlss my rx570 can run esports games at 120fps lmao without fsr
@@jayking33497 what do you mean? l am exactly explaining why his reasoning to the 4060 is flawed. 3060 can be used for that which is the one his comparing about, dlss makes sense for single player titles. 3060 has similar performance with less vram issues and can achieve similar fps most of the time. Unless you cant buy the 3060 12GB and you want dlss 4060 is pointless when considering strictly for gaming.
@guilhermedecarvalhofernand1629 similar performance did you not see hellblade 2 comparison???? 3060 12gb is good but unreal engine 5 games with lumen and nanite barely holds up with 3060. Keep in mind gears of War will fully be in UE5 as well
ITT people make dumb comments about GPU naming when the problem is bad price/perf and poor product placement with inadequate VRAM for the core's strength, regardless of naming. quibbling about the naming is a dumb waste of time and completely misses what the actual problems with this gen have been.
In the Avatar test, GPU memory usage on the 3060 goes way beyond 8GB, and yet the 4060 doesn't use more system RAM, which suggests to me that the game reduces some quality settings when not having enough RAM, rather than spill into CPU RAM. This might be the reason the 4060 has more of an advantage in this game over the 3060 compared to other games.
Which one would be better for gta 6 considering the last two games like GTA 5 and RDR2 had ram, vram leak issues. Don't say none. Of course low medium settings or even high as it would be a story mode game so as long as FPS is stable and more than 30, it should be good. I recently bought one for my system as this is the best money can afford and can't get even 1$ (The price difference is 40-55$ BTW here) higher in budget considering 6000 series is rare here.
@@radger6392 i actually already played all those games causing issue for 8gb vram card on my vega 56 in 1440p, guess what? its not that big of a deal. This is not the era of 2gb vs 4gb where the game wont run at all. You can just turn down textures/shadows from ultra to high and all those useless volumetric fog/cloud to medium and use dlssQ the vram will be way under 8gb and run smoothly and still look as good as ps5 12gb is nice to have but if you were to push all those graphic to ultra the fps gonna be low anyway. You will eventually find yourself playing on medium low settings for alan wake 2 to have that smooth gameplay 3060 vs 4060 each trade blows so its really up to you, but i guess i will go for 4060 for more fps and lower tdp at the same price. Just go with which one have the best deal
@@loucipher7782 I think 10gb for both the GPUs would've been the best. Then nvidia would not have launched the 8gb version for the 3060 and hearing people cry about 4gb less vram for the 4060. But anyways I would've never bought the 3060 if the price difference wasn't 40-55$ and 6000 series (6600xt or higher) were readily available for the same price. I would've somehow forced them to my 550w PSU and ignored the bottleneck..maybe. I really don't mind ray tracing and stuff. But still was a big upgrade from rx 550 2gb
@@radger6392 i think its an architecture thing that made 10gb not possible or too expensive to produce. 6600xt is still 8gb 6700xt 12gb might be too much for your psu. My vega 56 8gb is already 6 years old and i am still capable of playing all AAA titles at 1440p tho now down to High/Medium with fsrQ made it possible to squeeze a few more years out of it. Anyway the best game on PC right now with 100++ hours content is Baldurs Gate 3 and it barely eat 6gb vram, also if you are into Jrpg like Persona it take even less vram and GTA6 for pc wont be release until 2026, 2027 for Steam. People is just crying wolf at the 4060 as AAA titles that break 8gb barely last over 10 hours play time, they are all linear game with lots of bling blings that can be turned down and still look amazing. 12gb is nice to have but not necessary for such a budget tier card but i guess anything is better than a rx550 lol have fun gaming.
My 3080 10gb is still chugging along at 1440p and 4k. Hard to justify the $$$ to upgrade until there is a real significant benefit. Note I am not someone trying to play AAA titles on day 1 of release. There are tons of slightly older games and indies that run just fine.
Still enjoying my TUF 3060, without any real reason to upgrade... Had a cheap 3080 on hand, but I flipped it for money, since 3060 does so well at such a low power consumption
horizon forbidden west vram usage very high settings is 13+ gb vram so i guess the 12gb gpu version is the good choice finaly"Kind of atleast"! 8-13gb vram is what i have seen this game use during gameplay on my rtx3060 12gb i5 12400f 16gb 3200mhz desktop pc.. So how will it be in the future for us or them who use a 8gb vram gpu vs the slower 12gb versions of rtx 3060 gpus?? will 12gb not matter and 8gb be enough still or will the 12gb get better as they told me when i bought my prebuilt pc w rtx3060 12gb (They told me lat year late 2023 that it is best to get a slower 12gb vram, pc instead for the future)but is it finaly true yes? no? mayby?? Thanks for another great video(well they are always great)
Why is no one talking about actual image quality? No TH-camr actually talks about it either! From what I see here is that the 4060 has a much brighter color scheme and better image quality overall. Also I did see that the image quality and colors where brighter and more realistic in the Nvidia cards compared to AMD. While I love AMD for their bang for buck and every other AMD reason, I still see in every video that the image quality and the colors appear to be much better in the Nvidia cards. I don’t know, maybe it’s actually better or maybe it’s their AI making it better
i bought 3 Amd cards and 5 NVidia cards my whole life and i always did notice that Nvidia always have brighter and more realistic image than Amd cards regardless of card generations.... good to know i am not the only one seeing that and not imagining things.
last september of 2023 the rtx3060 12GB price was $6480 pesos or $360 in Mexico just for having 12GB vram so I bought the 4060 for $5400 or $300(zotac twin edge OC), but I can see other markets have different prices and supply.
I bought a ZOTAC 3060 12GB a couple months ago for less than 6,000 mxn, but ended up paying a bit more because MercadoLibre offered 6 months without interest, all 4060 I tried to search for were 6500 or more.
Sir 2nd hand GPU 3080 IS FOR THE PRICE OF 4060 so what will you recommend considering how much will the Idle be when I am using a browser with 20 tabs on 2-4 monitors at the same time for 6hrs and after that 2-4 hrs gaming... What according to you will be the consumption as I can multiply my Electricity unit price...
@@makkienleong6865 If VRAM is powerful then 10GB at this price will work. This Horsepower destroys 6700xt 12GB. i am only considering Electricity bill I got an answer to undervolt the GPU.
The funniest thing isn't 4060 being like that. It's the existence of 4060ti which also has exactly the same problems. In my country 3060 and 4060 now cost about the same, but 4060ti costs 100$-120$ more and you still get these vram issues and nvidia fg problem.
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Nvidia with the 5000 series I bet:
"So you're saying 8GB is enough. 8GB again it is!"
Nah 5060 will have 7.5 GB of vram just to piss people of while the last 0.5 GB will be slower like it was on the GTX 970 :)
Fuck Nvidia.
"No, memory bus doesn't affect performance"
Nvidia: Alright then, we give 96-bit this time around. 🤣
@@Jakiyyyyy 64 is enough, my 6500XT can show you that, AMD know even better
@@Jakiyyyyy when 3 and 4GB GDDR7 chips release, you can be sure AMD will release a 32-bit memory bus GPU 🤣
You’d expect a 4060 to be better in every way than a 3060 rather than a little better with occasions where it’s a lot worse.
Hey 3% is 3%
@@bumperxx1Like Jensen Huang says ‘The more you buy, the more you save.’ By which he means ‘just buy a 4090 you f*cking peasants!’ 😂
Not everyone is playing this much graphic intensive AAA TITLES
@its_not_the_Ishu it was a joke 😃 anyone with a 3060 should wait for a 5060 or something else. But if they are still running 1080p 60hertz then ride it till it dies
The sad part is when you realize this uplift was one of the _better_ ones of the generation. Look at the 3060ti>4060ti or 6800xt>7800xt. Many cards gave pathetic uplift or got price hikes that made them an even _worse_ value. Even with price drops there's nothing that stands out and even the best case scenarios can't muster up better than "well I guess it's not _that_ bad."
AMD and Nvidia were perfectly happy for decades making 25-30% margins. Neither them or their shareholders want to go back now after enjoying the 50-60% margins of the crypto boom.
It is the 4050 actually they're just ripping you off for 300 bucks
This gen has bad naming. The 60 series cards from both compaines should be 50 cards. Radeon has 70 class cards with 80 and 90 class naming.
funny enough the 4050 exists on laptops but if you cant go for 299 of the 4060, your only option is the 3050 6gb at 190. Greedvidia.
You can apply this too with the Rx 7800xt and 6800xt. Both have very small difference in performance. Techpowerup even has the rx 6800xt leading over the 7800xt in horizon forbidden west.
What?
@@adlibconstitution1609 Not really. The 7800XT came at a much lower price point.
The 4060 came at almost the price but even with less memory.
The 3060 was a 1440p card, but with the 4060 you only get a 1080p card and still have to lower textures.
Fact that we are still comparing 3060 vs 4060(50) in 2024 is another proof how shyte is 40 series and particulary it's pricing.
Compare the 2060 to the 3060.
It not shit really, i can confirm the power to performance is insane on the 40xx series cards, it all depends on what you upgrading from. In my case i had a rtx 2060 then upgraded to a rtx 4070 super. Basically was a 130% increase in performance but if you have a 30xx series card i would suggest wating for new cards to come rather. All i can say is the 4070 super is a beast and even though it was not meant for 4k gaming i can play 80% of the AAA titles on 4k med/high settings and still hit +-60fps. So for me was money well spent.
@@eltonwaynewilliams4152 Exactly, none of these trolls compare the 2060 to the 3060🤣🤣
Gee, that 150 FPS at 1440p in Callisto Protocol on a 4070 Super sure is terrible isn't it?
Mid range cards and people are surprised they always give mid range performance. What a shock.
It’s sad that 4060 ti is kind of the default 4060.
the naming of nvidia gpus is a scam, its actually a 4050 vs 3060, and if you keep that in mind, the performance that we see, makes way more sense unlike nvidas pricing
@@__-fi6xg Radeons naming this gen is also a scam. They have 70 and 80 class competitors with 90 class naming.
@@Sp3cialk304 Amd flopping all over. Rx 7600 shouldn't even exist but they wanted you to waste money, They could have offered from the rx 7700/rx 7700xt 16gb at 300$ the rx 7800xt at 399$ the rx 7900gre at 450$ the rx 7900xt at 599$ the rx 7900xtx at 699$, And amd would have won this generation easily and made tons of money but decided to prioritize money.
@@jasonvors1922 I like AMD but I think they spend to much time listening to the vocal minority. Rdna2 was good, but refusing to modernize rdna3 was a bad idea. The vast majority of gamers care more about modern features and how they actually play the game than raster only native benchmarks
Both AMD & Nvidia did sandbag & downgrade this current gen! maybe things will be better on next gen will see!
you have it the other way around. The vast majority have no clue what all those "features" (gimmicks) are @@Sp3cialk304
Nvidia made the 4090 to keep the performance lead and mindshare but reduced the die size of all the other models to save up capacity for AI chips. 4080 is 40% smaller than 3080, 4070 is 25% smaller, 4060 is 40% smaller. The 4090 is just 3% smaller than the 3090.
that's an information that i didn't know about
And yet the 4080 and 4070 still blow their predecessors away, whereas the 4060 doesn't.
Bruh, they're using a different process entirely. 4000 series doesn't use the Samsung 8nm series they had in the 3000 series, this time they're using TSMC's 4nm process nodes. There's a lot wrong with the lower end rtx 4000 series but that's just not a way to compare this.
The 3060 getting 90 FPS at Very high settings while the 4060 is getting 30 FPS with frame generation is hilarious. Now I see why Nvidia blocked frame gen on 3000 series gpu's... Thank you AMD!
It's a famous phrase, the more you buy, the more you save.
Daniel, are those thumps your kids knocking at the front door repeatedly because they can’t get in 😅😂🤣😅😂🤣
Lol! I record in the basement and there are hardwood floors directly above me in the living room where the kids like to play.
@danielowentech It's fine, as a father of two I can say kids playing are one of the things it's worth living for, a bit of stumping won't ruin the video if the content is interesting 😊
4070 should've been the entry level. I went from 3060 to a 4070 super. Very happy with that upgrade.
yes me to asus 3060 phoenix to a asus 4070 super oc evo
Its people like you who upgrade after 1 generation using max settings that drives the prices up and complain lol.
@@nickwu4384 what? New gen games are fast unreal enginge 5 does not love 3060 and games like horizon for b west hell blade enz enz settings to medium then is time for a new gpu . 1050 ti was long time good now useles
It is clear that even for an entry level GPU at 1080p, only 8 Go VRAM is not acceptable anymore to the play the latest games if we want a true 60 fps with decent 1% low.
To be fair you need to keep in mind GPUs take years to design and Nvidia is surely deep into the designs on the generation _after_ 50 series. No one was crying about 8gb of vram back when these were designed because no games needed it without cranking it to 4k that none of these were ever designed for. But still they really _should_ have been planning ahead better.
@@zodwraith5745 It was clearly planned... the fact the 3060 had 12GB ram on a 192bit bus, what nVidia decided to do was using only GDDR6X memory so 8GB on a 128bit bus. If they used slower GDDR6 memory but 12GB on 192bit bus. It's planned obsolescence there is ZERO excuse for such practices!!! Nvidia knew this after all they work closely with a lot of the developers they KNEW THIS WAS COMING!
4060 = Still one of the worst graphics cards Nvidia has released.
why does everyone hate on it so much?
@@TtotheCizzel
3060 (2020) vs 4060 (2023)
Same performance. Lower Vram.
You overclock the 3060 and you get maybe another 10% over the 4060.
No intergenerational jump in performance. Rather the opposite.
That's why the 4060 is one of the worst cards.
The 4060 was supposed to be a 10GB RTX 3070.
4060 Ti says hi lol
The 4060 can be found for under 300 brand new that fits an old system with weaker cpu without changing the psu.
I just bought a 4060 Dual OC to fit into a Mini Itx build for my son and it runs really well @ 1080p. He only plays Fortnite, Destiny 2 etc and gets consistently 144 + frames with high settings. The games look good and are smooth on his 144hz monitor. And, the card runs very cool, is whisper quiet, and draws little power. Yeah, it isn't what it should be but it works well.
People who bought the 4060 got scammed into really buying the 4050
So glad I picked the rx6750xt last second over the rtx4060. Would have been looking like a clown in 2 years.😂
100%. A couple years ago my buddy was up for a GPU purchase and he was SURE he wanted a 3070 but I convinced him to get the 6700xt. In 2024.. he doesn't realize just how useful that add vram is with the latest games he plays on 1440p display. I hear no complaints like we hear with 8gb GPUs now. All hail the vram value king AMD! Shall they continue to thrive by providing what Nvidia fails to.
@@christophermullins7163hopefully nvidia release 50 series with bigger vram for xx70 lineup if not im switching side. (3070ti user here)
@@christophermullins7163 i would get amd but i dislike FSR shimmering and fsr3 is only in some games
Well again all these buying decisions I'm going to have to be made with regards to what monitor you're running and the technical specs of that monitor not to mention a CPU that won't bottleneck it. I hear people still have 7700 K Skylake chips that's not going to cut it with a modern GPU. Old but bumper 6 corse four threads is still cool 😢. I would love to see these graphics cards he's testing with 1080p 360 hertz you're not going to get it. I'm glad you convinced your friend to buy an AMD graphics card I just hope he didn't have like a g-sync monitor 175hertz of so you got something that wont get you high frams and hertz with that monotors spec. You're still not giving the details of his system what do you guys not understand about specific components to work with specific components
@@jayking33497 ok but for the same price you can get an amd gpu that doesnt require upscaling.. except RT.
8:10 this is soooo the 4050 Nvidia isn't even ashamed
@@davidfg2917 250 bucks and less would've been fair, 200 now that's a bargain for 8gb vram and entry level
@@davidfg2917 "The More You Buy, The More You Save"
@@KN-592 You can get a 4060 for $200 dollars. Daniel and other tech youtubers other than the Toasty Bros don't understand the concept of looking for a bargain at a local shop.
4060 even has the chip with xx107 naming, that used in xx50 cards.
@@skeleton0_067 based
I told people if you want want almost max settings 1080p in modern games you need more than 8gb for most modern games. We are finally in the gaming era of pushing games to need more than 8gb while barely noticing the beefed up graphics 😅
and guess what, most likely the 5060 will feature 8gb of vram as well
I remember gtx 1060 6gb having troubles with witcher 3 max settings. Honestly shilling nvidia is dumb, but idk what people expect from a XX60 gpu. "It should've been 200$" yeah no shit, I'd prefer it to be 100$, but that's just not how it is or ever was.
4060 is capable of running 1440p high with DLSS (which in this resolution has no more visual artifacts than just TAA, if not less), is it really considered bad?
Ya I can't even run cyberpunk maxed out with a 6600xt since 2.0.....uses more than 8gb of vram. And that's with no rt.
About time!
The thing is the most graphically advanced game up to date - Hellblade 2 - does not need more than 8GB of VRAM. While much older games, like Horizon FW (2022) or Ghost of Tsushima (2020) somehow need more than 8GB of VRAM.
Why do these older games are using VRAM less effectively?
If your budget is £300 then these are the two options you have from Nvidia, 4060 or 3060. 4060 looks okay but then you realise it has on 8GB VRAM and then you look over to the 12GB 3060 but you have to sacrifice DLSS/FG and power if you want to go with that one, for me what saved the day - the best option imo - £300 for a brand new RX 6750 XT and you get the 12GB VRAM and faster performance than both the 3060 and 4060.
@ $300, Arc 770 is also in your price range and has 16GB of RAM. Just need to make sure the games you want to play work on it.
@@glenndoiron9317if you buy a graphics card you should expect all games to play on it otherwise why are you buying a graphics card
Okay that's great I'm glad you chose a 6750 XT but what monitor and CPU do you have again everyone is saying buy this for this price buy that for that price what is your system Jesus freaking Christ it's like I heard the other day a 7700k Skylake chip is still good no it's not but it works for my 1080p okay yeah great 60 FPS so again what did you pair with that graphics card CPU RAM and monitor
And also you lose DLSS. 🤣
@@Jakiyyyyy yeah dlss 3.0
Extremely informative thank you much better than the typical split screen comparison you typically see in youtube.
It’d be nice if people started showing some 4k in low or medium settings as the 6750xt does 4k good in some games and considering it’s the 4060 competition it would be nice to see (we know the 6750xt is better than the 4060) not everyone wants a 4k @ 120fps set ups, some people are fine at 30-60 fps especially if they come from consoles at a budget
Nobody with 4k is buy low end GPU my friend. I had a cool 😎 1070 with 8gb got a new LG oled 48inc Cx gsyinc tried Games like control and cyberpunk and call duty and the card tanked. 23fps 30fps low settings it's just not going to work.
And another thing if you're fine with 30 fps to 60 FPS that's garbage I don't see past 60 FPS well you know what buddy get a real 120 and I guarantee you see your mouse move better in fact I would argue 165 should be the goal because you're not going to notice much difference between 120 and 165 but for the price you can get into a nice monitor at 165
@@bumperxx1 I have a graphics card that can do 4k perfectly fine I’m talking about those who want an entry 4k experience. My 2nd pc does it just fine on my LG oled. I’m busy enjoying the gameplay than focusing on fps like everyone else.
@stevegonzales527 yeah but eye candy 🍬 cost you frams and hertz so in 4k you don't want 30fps or some crap 60 fps should be standard.
Only psychopaths are fine with 30 fps
I have no VRAM and I must frame gen
4060scam
I do think the 4060 Ti 16gb is the true successor to the 3060 12gb. If that launched near the $330 msrp of the 3060 then it would have been a great product 😅
its a very good card and will be the bang for buck after priced like regular 60 series, maybe when 5000 series came out
i mean around 280-300$
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 typically nvidia hasn’t really kept previous gen cards around at a discount. On the used market, sure. Hopefully we just get a proper 5060. 4070 performance at $300ish.
Dan can you make a 3060ti vs 4060ti version of this video 🙏
It'll be the same thing as this video, just a little higher fps.
@@pf100andahalf nope. The 3060Ti has only 8GB and there are 16GB versions of the 4060Ti
@@rob4222 well the 4060ti 16gb doesnt make any sense as the pricing nor the perfomance makes any sense to have 16gb
@@rob4222 The 4060 ti 16gb is faster when 8 gb isn't enough but it's still too expensive so basically worthless unless you can find one used. The 4060 ti 16gb is horrible value.
I have a 16 GB 4060ti and it's been great. I was very reluctant to buy it because of bad reviews and didn't want AMD. Coming from a GTX 1070 since 2016 it's been a huge upgrade. Horizon Forbidden West gets 120-150 fps with DLSS and Frame Gen @1080p. I tried using the new GPU with my old i7 6700k and it was a shit show. Went with a 12600k and DDR5 ram and I'm very happy.
Yeah if I had to pick one I would buy the 3060/12 over the 4060/8
So, you would take lower FPS, just to have more vRAM that you'll only use in one or two games, or when trying to play 1440p on a 1080p card? 🤔
@@EveryGameGuru considering the price and how close these cards are in performance, I'd rather have the one with a more stable frame rate and frame time. Fps is only as good as it's stability.
4060 was never meant for 1440p gaming. Just saying. 🤷🏻♀️
@@richied5294 You would rather have slightly higher frames every 1/60th of a second, in two games, with VERY niche settings, than to have a higher overall average FPS, with all the features of 4000 series? Buy AMD 😆
Upgrade from 750 ti, I found Colorful 12 GB rtx 3060 Triple fan in the used marked at just 17k INR, bought it instantly. I was a little sceptical about not buying a 40 series for its better Frame generation abilities. Hardly did I know even FG needs vRam too.
Best decision ever.
I could have gone with 3060 ti but it was 8 GB.
Having a blast with my 3060
Overall, I'd still rather have the 4060, but I would recommend waiting for an upgrade for those with a 3060. The upgradability is just too weak at that level.
I have no gpu but seems like a bad time to buy anything...
@@Zombie1012080ti. A beast that can even be modded until 20gb~ it's 200-300$ used for me. Basically 3070 but has more vram
@@swilleh_2080ti is underrated in my opinion, with or without being modded it’s a really good gpu for its price.
@@exocleats6937except you should avoid Turing because of dying VRAM chips (unless you can find one cheap enough where you can pay for new chips)
why would you buy a 4060, you get all the nvidia advantages with the 3060. Its the best nvidia card for the last 2 generations.
6700XT vs 3060/4060 i bet AMD card will beat the crap out of them.
BRO ARE YOU SERIOUS I AM LITERALLY RESEARCHING THESE 2 AGAIN OMG THE TIMING, THIS IS PERFECT. (i swear if you are about to make a video about 3060 ti vs 4060...)
3060ti destroys the 4060. If you can access a 3060ti or 3070 both completely invalidate the 4060 and cost less used.
This is HILARIOUS, especially the comments 😆
"The 4060 has lower 1% lows in two games, or when trying to play 1440p on a 1080p card"
"The 3060 is better" 😆🤡
Except Nvidia didn't call it "1080p card", this is your headcanon.
@@missk1697 Anyone with half a brain knows that the 50-60 tier is 1080p low/high. If you need someone to hold your hand when buying PC parts, you shouldn't be building a PC
3060 becoming with every year better and better buy because it was always targeting mid/high settings and that vram helps it to achive that
The 3060 rarely uses its VRAM.
3060 is the new 1060
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Indeed this thing won't die soon and will be relevent for ages ahead
I kinda feel scammed that reviewers said 3 years ago 8 gb vram would be enough for non-4k gaming.
It doesn't need more approval. Just Last of Us alone already proved it more games will be VRAM demanding like that in the future but people are still ignorant. 🤷🏻♀️
Hardware unboxed said it will be an issue in a couple years when talking about 3070 vs 6800
I own both a n RTX 3060 12GB and an RTX 4060 8gb in my htpc gaming setups. I don’t use frame generation at 1080p/1440p (with RTX 4060) so I’m fine with using FSR frame generation ‘IF’ needed…… especially with FSR 3.1 coming out now in games and modders, I’m sure, adding tweaks for a drag n drop into older titles etc🤤🤯👍🥳.
Saying that it appears that newer game engines like UE5 uses vram more efficiently than older engines so maybe, just maybe, Nvidias ram skimping (8gb gpus) was known by them from initial engine testing for gpus 🧐😳?
Imo if you’re a gamer who uses a lot of texture mods etc on older games …. I’d go with the RTX 3060 12GB …..otherwise get the RTX 4060 for the added performance….. but that’s me 😁👍
you are objectively wrong. My gpu is using 10gb in most modern games, sometimes even over 12 like in RE 4 with raytracing and dlss in 2k. 8gb is definitely not enough for 1440p gaming, especially not with rt or any other nvidia feature that needs vram to run.
Cope harder. No one should buy the 4060 lol.
Ive noticed this too. The console port games seem to be the VRAM hogs. The UE5 games typically have very reasonable VRAM usage.
@@__-fi6xg I don’t use RT or FG on my lower end gpus which l assume your GPU Is notably stronger than these and can actually use these features (RT & FG). Anything requiring power I run on my RTX 4090 or RTX 3080 or RTX 4070.
@@ltg8382 yep I try when ever I can🥳😉. I’ll just game on either my RTX 3080, RTX 4070 or RTX 4090 when I actually want to use Ray tracing or Frame Generation.
It is funny how people complain about nvidia and still buy their products
lmao they don't have any choice !! 😂🤣
indeed. my last two gpus were amd . if you want change, you have to vote with your wallet.
Bingo
nobody complain about nvidia except amd shills
It's funny how people complain about Nvidia but magically ignore the 7600 is also only 8gb. Then when AMD makes the 7600xt and Nvidia the 4060ti 16gb people bitch cause they wanted special edition redesigns for free.
19:42
The 4060 is not loading ultra textures. Its hard to notice graphically on youtube but its evident in the vram usage discrepancy, thats more than 3GB difference.
@@lanelesic That's how Avatar handle vram. It doesn't remove anything from the allocated vram pool until it has to. So it reports high allocation but isn't actually using all of it. RDR2 will do the same thing, you can get it to show over 16gb of vram allocation at 1440p, but it's not using close to that.
@@Sp3cialk304 you will still experience horrible 1% lows tough
@@__-fi6xg you don't
@@Sp3cialk304 The premade benchmark doesnt take into account players agency. That aggressive usage/ allocation method would show up in gameplay as microstutters and frametime spikes.
@@lanelesic read the conclusion of Techpowerups Avatar performance review. The way they word it may be easier to grasp. It's similar to mip mapping. It won't hurt performance and the difference in detail would be on super far away assets, where you don't have enough pixels display the difference anyway. Basically how nanite works for poly count, but with textures. If you had a huge screen and higher resolution than current cards could run you may be able to see a difference, but currently you can't because 2 pixels can't occupy the same spot anyway.
I'll just keep my 3060 ti and use lossless scaling for now
I love this haha. I hear the kids and I can picture them running around like my little ones do. Also the PnP of you pointing everything out at first I thought I might not like it but I actually prefer it now. Thanks for the video sir!
Can you test the 6600 at 1440p with FSR/XeSS vs 1080 native?
After wathcing the video i came to the cconclusion that greedvidia sucks. Save us intel, because amd never will.
The 4050 and it is a 4050 should be 200 and the 3060 12 gb should be 180 and the 3050 should be retired.
or call it the "3030"
Sooner or later, Intel is gonna catch up. 🤷🏻♀️
yeah well, this video is about the 4060 not the laptop 4050
@@-1solrak they are the same.
115 watt on 4060 vs 180 watt on 3060
Do your math.
Playing games at Max is only for high End GPU not a entry level GPU.
The Daniel mini-cursor pointer is OP!!
The 12 vram is what sold me (I am a VR gamer)
This is going to be interesting as the RTX 5060 is rumoured to only have 8GB of GDDR7.
GDR6 actually. What a waste!
What is good about GDDR7? Unless it has texture compression stuff then maybe 8GB would make sense. 🤷🏻♀️
@@Jakiyyyyy just higher memory bandwidth.
Can you test the rx6750xt
Just curious but why isn't background play available for members only videos. That's kinda strange imo
No idea! Seems like a big oversight if YT doesn't enable that. Not sure if that is something I have any control over on my end. I didn't change any settings other than publish this for Channel Members only.
@danielowentech all good just thought it was strange that it doesn't allow background watching or listening on member on videos. Everything else is fine. But none the less u keep doing u I love the way ur free in ur videos and don't care to do a video with ur kids running about. I'm a father myself so believe me I get it.
Im currently using 1060, should i go for 4060/4060ti or 3060/3060ti/3070 ? I only gaming on 1080p, thx
Why do people expect a 100% in performance each gen? Do they think Moores Law is still going or something?
complaining about complainers
@@paulyboy29 complaining about complainers complaining about complainers
@@nickwu4384 well thats definitely a comment nick
@@nickwu4384 complaining about complainers complaining about complainers complaining about complainers complaining about complainers
tldr: get a RX 6600, 6650XT or 6750XT and avoid Nvidia at all costs.
But then you have to deal with terrible drivers
@@chase7974 Yes, another reason to avoid Nvidia.
Ill build my first PC bro, are AMD GPUs only good at gaming? I'm confused when faced with the choice of 4060, 3060 or 6600, some people say Nvidia is better in drivers and software, and performs better in 3D rendering blender
others said that AMD gpu is slower and sometimes crashed the rendering session
what do you think
I'm confused because gaming is not the only activity I use a computer for
i absolutely choose amd if i use my computer all day for gaming
@@manukjedar They're not as stable due to poor drivers, and lack of features like DLSS, and Frame Generation. I would never choose an AMD GPU today, they can't compete with Nvidia at all nowadays, and it shows in their market share.
Nvidia holds more of the market share, and also has a bigger team working on their GPUs, so their drivers and features are a lot better. They also receive driver support for longer which is important if you want to keep the GPU for a long time.
Basically, if you want a stable GPU that'll last you a long time, go with Nvidia. Don't listen to people who say AMD GPUs are better. They use to be on par with Nvidia years ago, but have since fallen off when AMD took over ATI.
@@chase7974 so the option is 4060 or 3060? I'm still confused about which one for my long term first PC
Made me curious about the 3060 ti vs 4060 ti that has same vram.
I work at a computer store & 4060 sell like hotcakes.
the majority of casual buyers don't care about youtubers opinion. they always buy new products from nvidia, just like iphone lol
Aren't there more games that support Nvidia frame gen? It's the major selling point for the 4060 so we should test it and/or whether the VRAM is enough to do frame gen.
what if i dont have one, first time buying which should i choose? i can only fit dual fan in my pc case. I want to use it for rendering in sketchup and gaming for valorant only, also i want to pair it with ryzen 5 7600x.

Msi Rtx 3050 Ventus 2X XS /2X OC 8gb 128bit GDdr6/ 6GB 96bit DDR6 graphics card gaming LHR
is it ok for budget friendly?
Nvidia is the type of company that makes their new product perform 2x times worse than its predecessor.😂😂😂 This is what lack of competition does.
Ohh great point at the start with those bad 1% lows linked to the vram limit, I hadn't seen it that clearly
Why is VRAM on 4060 smaller than older RTX 3060
Ngreedia
Has anyone even played Avatar Frontiers of Pandora? I feel like nobody talked about it ever
It was so childish i quited at the begining, hard to incarnate an alien teen in rebelious period
I am still mad that my 3080 had 10gb and 3060 had 12gb :(
Will 4060 will perform same with r5 5600
On amazon it seems more people are buying the rtx 3060 over the 4060.
its just a big joke that 4060 is so bad in comparision to the 3060. Nvidia wont give us more gamingpower in the cheap segment in future
I don't think 4060 users will be running at the highest settings in a game!
highest settings is silly
there will always be some dumb settings that cripple gpu for no good reason so newbs would think they need to buy more expensive gpu
i don't know why but every time i watch one of your videos, i think someone is on my roof.
just buyt the 600$ 4070 if you wanna paly games at 1080p LOL -jensen huang
should be a 4050
Rtx 4060 vs 6650xt ultimate benchmark plz
just use lower textures settings and all is solved. 1080p can use medium quality texture nowadays.
Still one of the dumbest generational replacement ever I am still holding my breath but I fear that the next gen will be another huge disappointment across the board.
In most cases the 4060 is the better choice unless you play heavy single player games. Most people just play esport titles though which you can run on like 4gb vram lol. I think the 4060 gets too much hate
It's the opposite actually, because in e-sport games you are not going to run with dlss, meanwhile in single player games it makes sense due to input latency of frame gen even with Nvidia reflex.
So in this budget segment 4060 is a scam
@@guilhermedecarvalhofernand1629 why would you use esports game in dlss lmao stop fronting the card aint that weak for esports games lmao battlefield 2042 runs at 120 fps without dlss my rx570 can run esports games at 120fps lmao without fsr
@@jayking33497 what do you mean? l am exactly explaining why his reasoning to the 4060 is flawed. 3060 can be used for that which is the one his comparing about, dlss makes sense for single player titles. 3060 has similar performance with less vram issues and can achieve similar fps most of the time. Unless you cant buy the 3060 12GB and you want dlss 4060 is pointless when considering strictly for gaming.
@guilhermedecarvalhofernand1629 similar performance did you not see hellblade 2 comparison???? 3060 12gb is good but unreal engine 5 games with lumen and nanite barely holds up with 3060. Keep in mind gears of War will fully be in UE5 as well
@@guilhermedecarvalhofernand1629 but even without dlss the 4060 still outperforms the 3060 for £10 more
so for a new build, should i buy the 4060 or the 3060? Or else go amd? Please let me know what i should do
Nbarrassing!
ITT people make dumb comments about GPU naming when the problem is bad price/perf and poor product placement with inadequate VRAM for the core's strength, regardless of naming.
quibbling about the naming is a dumb waste of time and completely misses what the actual problems with this gen have been.
3060 vs 3060 ti 2024 revisit plzzz, lot of Stem player using 3060 ti
In the Avatar test, GPU memory usage on the 3060 goes way beyond 8GB, and yet the 4060 doesn't use more system RAM, which suggests to me that the game reduces some quality settings when not having enough RAM, rather than spill into CPU RAM. This might be the reason the 4060 has more of an advantage in this game over the 3060 compared to other games.
For someone who got a 4060... on laptop. I see this as an absolute win.
so basically
3060 for higher graphic +DLSS
4060 for higher fps+frame generation, set lower graphic under 8gb vram
Which one would be better for gta 6 considering the last two games like GTA 5 and RDR2 had ram, vram leak issues. Don't say none. Of course low medium settings or even high as it would be a story mode game so as long as FPS is stable and more than 30, it should be good. I recently bought one for my system as this is the best money can afford and can't get even 1$ (The price difference is 40-55$ BTW here) higher in budget considering 6000 series is rare here.
@@radger6392 i actually already played all those games causing issue for 8gb vram card on my vega 56 in 1440p, guess what? its not that big of a deal. This is not the era of 2gb vs 4gb where the game wont run at all.
You can just turn down textures/shadows from ultra to high and all those useless volumetric fog/cloud to medium and use dlssQ the vram will be way under 8gb and run smoothly and still look as good as ps5
12gb is nice to have but if you were to push all those graphic to ultra the fps gonna be low anyway. You will eventually find yourself playing on medium low settings for alan wake 2 to have that smooth gameplay
3060 vs 4060 each trade blows so its really up to you, but i guess i will go for 4060 for more fps and lower tdp at the same price.
Just go with which one have the best deal
@@loucipher7782 I think 10gb for both the GPUs would've been the best. Then nvidia would not have launched the 8gb version for the 3060 and hearing people cry about 4gb less vram for the 4060. But anyways I would've never bought the 3060 if the price difference wasn't 40-55$ and 6000 series (6600xt or higher) were readily available for the same price. I would've somehow forced them to my 550w PSU and ignored the bottleneck..maybe. I really don't mind ray tracing and stuff. But still was a big upgrade from rx 550 2gb
@@radger6392 i think its an architecture thing that made 10gb not possible or too expensive to produce. 6600xt is still 8gb 6700xt 12gb might be too much for your psu.
My vega 56 8gb is already 6 years old and i am still capable of playing all AAA titles at 1440p tho now down to High/Medium with fsrQ made it possible to squeeze a few more years out of it.
Anyway the best game on PC right now with 100++ hours content is Baldurs Gate 3 and it barely eat 6gb vram, also if you are into Jrpg like Persona it take even less vram and GTA6 for pc wont be release until 2026, 2027 for Steam. People is just crying wolf at the 4060 as AAA titles that break 8gb barely last over 10 hours play time, they are all linear game with lots of bling blings that can be turned down and still look amazing. 12gb is nice to have but not necessary for such a budget tier card
but i guess anything is better than a rx550 lol have fun gaming.
you are definetely wrong cus i played every game on max settings with 4060 also when you use dlss the vram usage decreases
in my country we called this 4060 8gb as the most joke GPU presented by Nvgreedy Huang...
Along with 4060 TI 8GB...
Wait until you see 5060 8GB... 🤷🏻♀️
@@Jakiyyyyy wait until you see that kind of bullshit again...
The amount of editing in each video is outstanding
yes i like the c2 and grid but the colors and models are abit too outdated, to be paired w raytracing lul
I HAVE RYZEN 7 7500G WHICH IS THE BEST GPU TO USE?
Your whole channel is an essay on how VRAM is important now, and I am a believer
Can't imagine buying gpu with 8gb vram in 2024 unless ur still on 720p monitor 😮
The 5060 need to have at least 12GB VRAM and starting with 5070 16GB VRAM. If NVIDIA still sell 8GB they should be canceled
cancel yourself
You must be having fun editing yourself moving around to point out things lol
Nice video tho
Arc 750 or rtx 3060 for gaming editing blender???
My 3080 10gb is still chugging along at 1440p and 4k. Hard to justify the $$$ to upgrade until there is a real significant benefit. Note I am not someone trying to play AAA titles on day 1 of release. There are tons of slightly older games and indies that run just fine.
4060. less power,more performance, new feature 🤔
in my country the price is only 20$ different
new feature "frame generation" is a gimmick
The main problem with RTX 4060 is it's memory bus is just 128 bit. 8gb VRAM is ok for 1080p.
i am exactly looking at these 2 cards to buy
Still enjoying my TUF 3060, without any real reason to upgrade...
Had a cheap 3080 on hand, but I flipped it for money, since 3060 does so well at such a low power consumption
'cheap' 3080???
@@caliginousmoira8565 Yeah, way under average used price
horizon forbidden west vram usage very high settings is 13+ gb vram so i guess the 12gb gpu version is the good choice finaly"Kind of atleast"!
8-13gb vram is what i have seen this game use during gameplay on my rtx3060 12gb i5 12400f 16gb 3200mhz desktop pc..
So how will it be in the future for us or them who use a 8gb vram gpu vs the slower 12gb versions of rtx 3060 gpus?? will 12gb not matter and 8gb be enough still or will the 12gb get better as they told me when i bought my prebuilt pc w rtx3060 12gb (They told me lat year late 2023 that it is best to get a slower 12gb vram, pc instead for the future)but is it finaly true yes? no? mayby??
Thanks for another great video(well they are always great)
what about performance per watt?
😂😂😂😂😂😂 why do you even care ??
@@bumperxx1 yes you should think of that
@@bumperxx1 It can matter a lot if power draw or noise is a limiting factor.
that only really matters if you game all day. I'm lucky to get more than 2 or 3 hours before bed.
@@mrman6035 mehh 2 3 hrs is plenty if it's every day
Keep up the good work!
6750XT is
Why is no one talking about actual image quality? No TH-camr actually talks about it either! From what I see here is that the 4060 has a much brighter color scheme and better image quality overall. Also I did see that the image quality and colors where brighter and more realistic in the Nvidia cards compared to AMD. While I love AMD for their bang for buck and every other AMD reason, I still see in every video that the image quality and the colors appear to be much better in the Nvidia cards. I don’t know, maybe it’s actually better or maybe it’s their AI making it better
i bought 3 Amd cards and 5 NVidia cards my whole life and i always did notice that Nvidia always have brighter and more realistic image than Amd cards regardless of card generations.... good to know i am not the only one seeing that and not imagining things.
So u r saying 4060 is has more better image quality than 3060 which r from the same brand
@@bumbeelegends7018 yes because the processor inside are different, it’s not only about the brand but the chipset and programming behind it
why did you exclude cyberpunk from the benchmarks :(
last september of 2023 the rtx3060 12GB price was $6480 pesos or $360 in Mexico just for having 12GB vram so I bought the 4060 for $5400 or $300(zotac twin edge OC), but I can see other markets have different prices and supply.
I bought a ZOTAC 3060 12GB a couple months ago for less than 6,000 mxn, but ended up paying a bit more because MercadoLibre offered 6 months without interest, all 4060 I tried to search for were 6500 or more.
I'd rather buy a secondhand 3070
LOL THIS GUY IS BLIND CLEARLY 4060 IS BETTER
Sir 2nd hand GPU 3080 IS FOR THE PRICE OF 4060 so what will you recommend considering how much will the Idle be when I am using a browser with 20 tabs on 2-4 monitors at the same time for 6hrs and after that 2-4 hrs gaming... What according to you will be the consumption as I can multiply my Electricity unit price...
3080 10GB is also at borderline. Look for 3080 12GB instead.
@@makkienleong6865 If VRAM is powerful then 10GB at this price will work. This Horsepower destroys 6700xt 12GB. i am only considering Electricity bill I got an answer to undervolt the GPU.
Which one is better for 4k video Editing - rtx 3060 or rtx 4060 ????
I will use premier pro , after effects
i think it doesnt make any sense to play those 60's cards at 1440p, just do what nvidea wants and play in 1080p
The funniest thing isn't 4060 being like that. It's the existence of 4060ti which also has exactly the same problems. In my country 3060 and 4060 now cost about the same, but 4060ti costs 100$-120$ more and you still get these vram issues and nvidia fg problem.